--- Log opened Thu Jul 03 00:00:19 2003
--- Day changed Thu Jul 03 2003
00:02 < daja77> me off to bed
00:10 < Mike1> n8 daja77
00:18 -!- mnemoc [neron@200.75.27.70] has joined #rocklinux
00:19 < Mike1> que mas neron! :)
00:19 < mnemoc> mmmm
00:19 < mnemoc> what is that ident doing there
00:20 < Mike1> pardon?
00:20 < mnemoc> /whois mnemoc -> neron@...
00:21 < mnemoc> Mike1: did you got my mails about minimal?
00:22 < Mike1> ah :)
00:22 < Mike1> yes i got them
00:22 < Mike1> mnemoc: have you tested the new isos, posted by rxr?
00:22 < Mike1> mnemoc: several issues were solved there
00:22 < mnemoc> no :(
00:22 < Mike1> btw i really apreciate your "bug" reports
00:23 < mnemoc> do they have ld?
00:24 < Mike1> ack
00:24 < mnemoc> i'll be there just for a couple of hours, so i need sshd up quickly...
00:24 < Mike1> there where?
00:25 < mnemoc> where the machine is
00:26 < mnemoc> Mike1: is rxr's 'proper' minimal-beta6 at iso.rl.de?
00:27 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:27 < ripclaw> helo
00:27 < mnemoc> hi ripclaw
00:29 < Mike1> rippy!
00:29 < ripclaw> hi mike
00:29 < Mike1> mnemoc: not its at his other server, let me get you an url
00:30 < Mike1> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/rock/stable/2.0.0-beta6/minimal/
00:30 < Mike1> mnemoc: go for ir
00:30 < Mike1> it
00:30 < ripclaw> whatever happened to openprojects.net - had a lot of trouble connecting. dl` ing rock2 while working on timesheets for customer.
00:51 < Mike1> n8 all
00:51 < ripclaw> n8 mike
00:52 < ripclaw> SMP still awake ,öä
00:52 < SMP> yeah, I'm here, unfortunately ;)
00:52 < ripclaw> cool. can we dcc
00:53 < SMP> usually I'm too stupid for it, let's see
00:53 < ripclaw> or come to channel cbm53
00:53 < ripclaw> err, cbm64
00:54 < SMP> you dcc was for an rfc1918 IP ;)
00:54 < ripclaw> that is ipv4 iirc.
00:54 < rxr> re
00:54 < ripclaw> hi rxr.
00:55 -!- lmay [~lmay@ip182219.wh.uni-hannover.de] has quit ("Read error: 666 (Connection reset by Satan)")
00:56 < rxr> hi ripclaw
00:57 < ripclaw> just downloading beta6 for building a current system for testing and compiling.
00:57 < ripclaw> any issues i may have missed.
01:01 < esden> ok ... now I am back
01:01 < esden> hi ripclaw !
01:01 < ripclaw> hi esden
01:01 < esden> ripclaw: how are you?
01:02 < ripclaw> uebermuedet, ueberarbeitet, halb erkaeltet
01:03 < esden> my condolences ripclaw 
01:03 < esden> ripclaw: you need vacation ...
01:03 < rxr> n8
01:03 < ripclaw> ach. eulen nach athen... die brauch ich seit 2000... argls.
01:05 < esden> n8 ripclaw 
01:06 < esden> arlg
01:06 < esden> argl*
01:06 < esden> n8 rxr 
01:06 < ripclaw> n9
01:06 < esden> ripclaw: so take your time and make vacation
01:07 < esden> and forget your laptop at home
01:07 < esden> ;-)
01:07 < esden> that will help
01:07 < ripclaw> yes, but i will starve then.
01:07 < esden> no you will not ... you will recover
01:09 < esden> ripclaw: what have you downloaded ... an svn checkout?
01:09 < ripclaw> i got the official tarbomb
01:09 < esden> ahh ok ... 
01:10 < esden> because when I am correctly informed the svn does contain some untested code ...
01:10 < ripclaw> ack.
01:10 < ripclaw> purrrr untested :)
01:10 < esden> hehe 
01:10 < esden> ahh ... beer is something beautifull
01:10 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting")
01:10 < esden> I feel so free ...
01:10 < esden> sorry had to say that
01:11 < jsaw_> *hehe*
01:12 < esden> jsaw_: want one too?
01:12 < ripclaw> beeeeeeer !!! gimme "!
01:13 < jsaw_> esden: a bit^2 later
01:13 < jsaw_> still have to work, but the night will not end without an erdinger...
01:13 < esden> ripclaw: reaches over a bottle of gutmann weizen
01:13 < esden> jsaw_: erdinger is nice ;-)
01:14 * -> esden playing drunken master
01:14 < esden> *lough*
01:14 < jsaw_> esden: and gutmann? never heard
01:14 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
01:14 < esden> jsaw_: that is the best "weizen" that exists
01:14 < ripclaw> esden kung fooo ?
01:14 < jsaw_> hi Freak
01:14 < esden> ripclaw: ack
01:14 < esden> hi Freak 
01:14 < ripclaw> esden - weizen cannot bee good. try pils
01:14 < ripclaw> :-)
01:15 < esden> no thanks ... I prefere weizen
01:15 < jsaw_> weizen may not be good the next day, but who cares?
01:15 < esden> how is called weizen in english?
01:15 < esden> jsaw_: why may it be not good the next day?
01:15 -!- ringo78 [~ringo@213.51.149.58] has joined #rocklinux
01:16 < esden> hi ringo78 
01:16 < ripclaw> esden weizen is heat sensitiv compared to stout or pils
01:16 < esden> ripclaw: ok ... that is right
01:16 < ringo78> hi esden
01:17 < Freak> re
01:17 < jsaw_> esden: weizen gives more headache
01:17 < esden> jsaw_: really?
01:17 < esden> I had only once in my life headeche from alcohol
01:18 < jsaw_> not the alcohol, some special oil
01:18 < esden> o_O
01:19 < jsaw_> the older you get, the more sensitive u are to that kinda stuff, believe me...
01:20 < jsaw_> now, lets see if evolution 1.4 compiles...
01:20 < Freak> =)
01:21 < Freak> its a pain in the ass when its installed I can tell
01:21 < ripclaw> alcol makes no headaches - st patricksday is full of whiskey, and no head ache.
01:21 < jsaw_> ?
01:21 < Freak> so far it doesnt pull mail from my /var/mail anymore
01:21 < Freak> and I dont know what prevents it from doing so.
01:21 < esden> ripclaw: you are resistant against that stuff .. you are training too much ;-)
01:21 < jsaw_> ripclaw: right. never had a headache from schnaps...
01:21 < Freak> when I start 1.2 which I also have installed, it fetches mail w/o problems.
01:22 < Freak> official gimp-irc #evolution coulnt help either.
01:22 < ripclaw> st pat became a holy man, so whiskay cannot be that baaad...
01:22 < Freak> gimpnet that is
01:23 < jsaw_> esden: ripclaw's right. you may get a hangover though. It's the rest that gives a headache. Bear for example dries out the body, you loose minerals -> headache
01:23 < jsaw_> Freak: let's see. I have probs also with 1.2.4.
01:23 < Freak> same kind?
01:23 < ripclaw> you get most minerals out of beer, btw.
01:24 -!- almostlucky [~almostluc@c-24-126-193-110.we.client2.attbi.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:24 < Freak> me brb, afk.
01:24 < jsaw_> ripclaw: could be, but u loose them to fast
01:26 < esden> hmm ... 
01:26 < jsaw_> ripclaw: think about why the bavarians normally eat salty (...name...) while drinking weizen
01:26 < jsaw_> s/(...name...)/sticks/
01:26 < esden> the salty stuff makes you thirsty that is why bavarians eat salty stuff while drinking
01:27 < esden> not only sticks ... also "bretzel" and cheese
01:27 < esden> with lots of salt on it
01:27 < ripclaw> jsaw_ they drink weizen,... :-)
01:28 < ripclaw> beer makes you want to go take a leave, bcuz it blocks some transponder hormones. if you ignore the urge to p??? you have no problem
01:29 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.156] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation")
01:29 < esden> after the first time you go to p??? you have to go every half an hour
01:29 < esden> that is tested
01:29 < esden> but you can stall the first time for a long time ;-)
01:29 < ripclaw> eichbaum ureich unerreicht, zwa getrunke, zehn geseicht...
01:30 < jsaw_> ripclaw: really? (it's a long time ago that I read, the problem is the salt/mineral budget)
01:32 < ripclaw> beer has a lot of salt mineral, problem is the alcohol blocks the transponder stuff and tells you have to p??? which makes you blow out the mineralstuff like water in a mountain
01:33 * -> esden licking stones
01:35 < jsaw_> muahaha
01:36 < jsaw_> ripclaw: besides the transporter stuff, that's what I wanted to say...
01:37 < ripclaw> yep
01:37 * jsaw_ hands over a "Obstbaumwiese aus dem Allgaeu" (fruit tree meadow?) (40%)
01:38 < esden> o_O
01:38 < esden> what is it jsaw_ 
01:38 < jsaw_> an wonderful schnapps
01:39 < esden> hmm ... /me preferes whiskey ...
01:39 * -> esden sipping Glenfiddich
01:39 < jsaw_> you'll like this one too, believe me. I'd like a Glenmorangie, 18years...
01:39 * mnemoc drinking milk
01:40 < ripclaw> esden - glenlivet, tullamore, tyr connel, glendronaich, ardbeg, bushmills, black busch... tallisker, glenmorangie, glenfiddich, old rarity...  i cannt decide which one...
01:41 < ripclaw> ardbeg is a house favourite here. try 15yrs.
01:41 < ripclaw> the most stuff here is 15 or 25
01:41 < esden> hmm ... I will have to try that
01:41 < esden> my glenfiddich is only 12 years ...
01:42 * jsaw_ is envying ripclaw 
01:42 < ripclaw> will still tast good. a good friend is whiskey trader, and i was in alba for a few weeks after abitur
01:42 < ripclaw> jsaw - i dont drink too much beer, two mass at octobre feast will buy a decent whiskey,..
01:43 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting")
01:43 < esden> ripclaw: full ack
01:43 * -> esden hates octobre feast
01:43 < jsaw_> really, I thought u already a a decent whiskey for one mass at the october fest
01:44 < jsaw_> s/a a/get a/
01:44 < ripclaw> yeah.
01:45 < esden> 10 eur for a mass
01:45 < esden> if I remember correctly
01:46 < ripclaw> esden - for that price i get drunk at pauls pub.
01:47 < esden> ripclaw: what do you buy for that money ... and how much does it cost
01:47 * -> esden loves guiness
01:47 * -> esden will go tomorrow to the puy downstairs ... that is sure now
01:48 < ringo78> n8 alle
01:48 < jsaw_> n8 ringo78
01:50 < ripclaw> esden, beer 2.50 pint, makes 2 liters, if guiness+cassis in 15min you are drunk
01:51 < ripclaw> btw, i gotta get up at 7, so gotta go.
01:51 * -> esden too
01:51 < esden> ok ... cu all
01:51 < esden> good night
01:52 < jsaw_> c y'all
01:53 < ripclaw> n8
01:58 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[x]chat")
03:13 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
03:46 < cchamilt> hi
04:16 < mnemoc> hi
05:09 -!- Pyro [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux
05:09 < Pyro> moin
05:09 -!- aszlig_ [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux
05:10 < Pyro> hi aszlig_
05:12 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:35 -!- ringo78 [~ringo@213.51.149.58] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
05:48 -!- daja77_ [[QzlIqVSLE@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux
05:48 -!- daja77 [[J5BfS7wl2@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:49 -!- Pyro [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving")
07:10 < blindcoder> moin
08:26 -!- jacques is now known as jacques_gone
08:31 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux
08:34 < netrunner> moin
08:34 < jsaw> tach
08:38 < rxr> re
08:39 * netrunner did something cool yesterday: mine -q | xargs mine -r
08:39 < netrunner> (i accidently deleted the grep kde) :(
08:41 < rxr> oO
08:43 < blindcoder> moin
08:43 < netrunner> now I have no mount anymore to mount the cd :/
08:44 < netrunner> hi blindcoder
08:44 < blindcoder> rxr: could you do me a favor? It seems there is a small typo in nethack.conf that prevents bash from executing it... no, don't punsh me, I'm absolutely sure it worked yesterday before I sent the patch
08:45 < blindcoder> on line 149 the two whitespaces at the beginning of the line have to be removed, the two tabs shall remain.
08:48 < rxr> ok
08:49 < rxr> EEE - that is a quite uncommon delimiter ...
08:50 < blindcoder> well, it's the first that came to mind... I could also have used EOP for End of Patch...
08:51 < rxr> EOT or EOF is normally used - it is not exactly a patch here ...
08:51 < rxr> but just leave it as it is ...
08:51 < rxr> committed - could you test ?
08:52 < blindcoder> sure, just a moment
08:56 < blindcoder> rxr: perfect, thanks :-)
09:10 < netrunner> grmbl /me forgot to switch on build pc before leaving :/ this is not my day.
09:24 < jsaw> rxr: new file sharing problems: libgnome22 <-> gnome-nautilus22 (gconf-2 related). That's a bit harder to solve than just using flistdel...
09:26 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030331]")
09:32 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
09:33 < ripclaw> helo
09:34 < ripclaw> anyone can tell me a src pkg mirror ?
09:34 < jsaw> hi ripclaw.
09:34 < ripclaw> hi jsaw
09:34 < rxr> ripclaw: it is determined automatically - or you need it for manual use ?
09:35 < ripclaw> 16 needed a manual one. if 20 dosnt, im happy.
09:36 < rxr> ripclaw: the Download script will query the mirror list from www.rocklinux.org - and then determines the fastest ...
09:36 < rxr> I Committed revision 691 - updated the XFree86 stone module - if people could test it ...
09:38 -!- anders_ [anders@dsl-62-3-122-161.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux
09:38 < anders_> lo folks.. :)
09:38 < anders_> http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/001_300/199.html
09:38 < anders_> just a little cartoon, but you guys are mentioned there..
09:40 < ripclaw> rxr: download script complains about missing curl on my 1.3.11 rock
09:41 < ripclaw> rxr - i have no svn either, its getting hard to test 691 without and i have no time for a reinstall today.
09:41 < ripclaw> isos are here, but i have to have a downtime with no users.
09:44 * ripclaw getting curl
09:47 < ripclaw> download running. rxr - anything to keep in mind when configuring svn local manually ?
09:48 < ripclaw> i`ll have to do that tonight.
09:48 < netrunner> ripclaw: just if you are behind a proxy
09:48 < ripclaw> netrunner - i am
09:48 < ripclaw> netgear RF314 firewall
09:49 < ripclaw> with openbsd statefull filters
09:50 -!- anders_ [anders@dsl-62-3-122-161.zen.co.uk] has left #rocklinux ()
09:51 < netrunner> ripclaw: hm ... I had to put "extension_methods REPORT MERGE MKACTIVITY CHECKOUT" into /etc/squid/squid.conf, dunno what your firewall will do.
09:51 < ripclaw> ack
09:51 < ripclaw> will see tonight.
09:52 * ripclaw got to go work
09:52 < netrunner> ripclaw: have fun :)
09:52 < ripclaw> cu l8r folks
09:52 < ripclaw> thnx
09:52 -!- ripclaw is now known as ripclaw_afk
09:53 * ripclaw_afk is away: gone to work
10:29 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-105-1-232.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux
10:30 < DeElsasser> hello all, someone here?
10:50 < DeElsasser> komme später
10:50 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-105-1-232.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting")
10:51 < esden> good morning everyone
10:52 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:57 < blindcoder> moin esden
11:02 < netrunner> esden: back home? no bs?
11:03 < esden> netrunner: nope I am still at uni
11:04 < esden> netrunner: but I have still tons of time left ...
11:04 < esden> netrunner: and you? At home?
11:04 < blindcoder> esden: I heard you ruined Drachi's book :)
11:04 < esden> hi blindcoder 
11:04 < esden> blindcoder: yes I have ... and?
11:04 < esden> I said that I will have to buy it ... 
11:05 < blindcoder> esden: and Drachi looks good with her now short hair ^^
11:05 < esden> where is the problem?
11:05 < esden> can be I have not seen her for ages ...
11:05 < blindcoder> no problem... *sigh* forget it
11:05 < blindcoder> I saw her two days ago on the train
11:05 < esden> ahh nice!
11:05 < esden> how is she ... she is not talking much with me ...
11:05 < blindcoder> her sister had "Friseurpruefung" and she had to be her training-model
11:06 < blindcoder> so now I have longer hair then she :)
11:06 < esden> now you are happy what? ;-)
11:06 < blindcoder> not really...
11:06 < blindcoder> but it looks good on her I think
11:06 < esden> hmm ... "gimme pics"
11:06 < esden> ;-)
11:12 < daja77_> moin
11:13 < esden> moin daja77_ 
11:18 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.156] has joined #rocklinux
11:18 -!- daja77_ is now known as daja77
11:19 < daja77> hi esden
11:21 < daja77> *lol* I just read that there is a german cups error message saying: Gerätestatus: gelangweilt
11:23 < esden> *rofl*
11:24 < netrunner> esden: nope, fachschaft.
11:24 < netrunner> (relaxroom ;)
11:24 < Ge0rG> daja77: maybe thats the translation of "lp0 on fire"?
11:24 < daja77> hehe, I guess it is the bad translation of idle ...
11:25 < netrunner> daja77: *g* that reminds me of that lynx message: "Obacht!"
11:25 < daja77> *lol*
11:28 < blindcoder> hmm... I liked the line printer is on fire message...
11:29 < blindcoder> I can't help but thinking that Marcelo Tosatti took all the fun out of Linux 2.4 >_<
11:31 * blindcoder lunch
11:31 < daja77> hehe, I like the life sucks message, that shows up when you try to use rock's snd stage small image ...
11:41 < esden> netrunner: aha
11:41 * -> esden going for coffee
11:41 < esden> cu l8er
11:49 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-57-230.29-151.libero.it] has joined #rocklinux
11:54 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
12:08 < daja77> O_o
12:09 < rxr> hm ?
12:10 < daja77> hi rxr
12:11 < rxr> hi daja77 - what is O_o ?
12:11 * daja77 now preparing generic build of rev 691
12:11 < daja77> rxr: joining with _afk nick
12:15 < blindcoder> back
12:21 * daja77 should stop reading political news, they are ridiculous or horrible
12:21 < blindcoder> ack
12:27 < daja77> cu later
12:31 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-57-230.29-151.libero.it] has quit ()
12:32 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
12:33 < netrunner> https://register.camp.ccc.de/
12:34 < esden> hi ho all
12:34 < blindcoder> esden: wb
12:38 < esden> *hug* blindcoder 
12:38 < esden> ;-){
12:39 * blindcoder sleepy...
12:39 < blindcoder> eaten too much
12:41 < esden> blindcoder: I have eaten also too much ... and my stomache is aching (or how it is spelled ;-) )
12:41 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... who was it you were eeating?
12:42 < esden> hmm ... "blumenkohl-kaesemedallions mit kartoffelpueree"
12:42 < blindcoder> hrm... cheese... isn't chease heavy on the stomach?
12:43 < esden> yes it is ... but I have problems with my stomach since some time ...
12:44 < esden> since I have eaten eggs with rotten ham
12:44 < esden> the ham was one month too old
12:44 < blindcoder> hm... no surprise there
12:45 * blindcoder had some "Rindfleisch"
12:45 * netrunner hasn't eaten since sunday.
12:45 < esden> blindcoder: that is heavy
12:45 < blindcoder> netrunner: that's bad
12:45 < esden> netrunner: why that?
12:45 < esden> no money?
12:45 < esden> now you have 5 eur from me to buy food
12:45 < blindcoder> esden: well, usually it is. but i was not much meat and made in a Wok with a lot of vegetables
12:46 < esden> ahh that braindead diet
12:46 * netrunner is following a special diet that allows only fluids to be consumed :)
12:46 < blindcoder> netrunner: you know... that doesn't really help _anything_
12:47 < esden> blindcoder: netrunner does not have overweight ... ... so he has no reason for such diet
12:47 < netrunner> blindcoder: well, it lasts for at least a year. But you can also call it purification
12:47 < blindcoder> even worse...
12:47 < blindcoder> netrunner: so... what are you drinking?
12:47 < netrunner> it's healthy, you know :)
12:48 < esden> you want to live from fluids for a year? ... 
12:48 < esden> I will come to your grave
12:48 < esden> and put a stake on it ;-)
12:48 < netrunner> esden: nope, next week I start eating (catched) slugs
12:48 < netrunner> esden: the week after come worms.
12:48 < blindcoder> tele
12:48 < netrunner> blindcoder: vision?
12:49 < esden> netrunner: I think he means -phone ....
12:49 < esden> or -pathy
12:49 < netrunner> or -doctor
12:49 < esden> or -portation
12:49 < netrunner> ah - therefore he stopped in the middle of th eword, he was beamed away >:)
12:50 < esden> yes seems so
12:50 * netrunner wonders where blindcoder has been beamed to .. scotty?
12:50 < esden> and the brain plugin produced a \n in the last moment of interruption
12:51 < esden> netrunner: scotty is busy ... he is making something that takes years in minutes ... the stuff that he loves so much ;-)
12:51 < netrunner> no, he wanted to let us some traces to let us know he had been kidnapped
12:52 < esden> by whom?
12:52 < esden> borg?
12:52 < netrunner> hmmm ... some fork of agent smith?
12:52 < esden> he is a borg himself ... 
12:52 < esden> netrunner: that is a possibility ... 
12:52 * -> esden making a nasty hack ... 
12:52 * -> esden starting nmap
12:53 < esden> ;-)
12:53 < netrunner> sshing to localhost
12:53 < esden> *rofl*
12:55 < blindcoder> esden: don't laugh, i did that a few times, too :)
12:56 < esden> blindcoder: o_O
12:56 < blindcoder> ssh localhost
12:56 < esden> you know there is something like sudo and su
12:56 < blindcoder> screen -dr
12:57 < esden> that makes it easier
12:57 < blindcoder> yes, but that doesn't change some keytranslations so one can use Alt+[0-9] in irssi in a xterm :)
12:57 < esden> blindcoder: you love overhead?
12:57 < blindcoder> overhead? me?
12:57 < blindcoder> why do you think so?
12:57 < esden> because ssh is overhead ...
12:57 < esden> but the argument with keytranslations is accepted
12:58 < blindcoder> I only ssh to another machine in siemens, thenn ssh through a proxy with transconnect to apollo, then screen -r then ssh to my home machine and then screen -r there
12:58 < blindcoder> WHY do you think I like overhead? *shakes head in disbelief*
12:59 < esden> erm ... netrunner is a loser against you ... his routing has some hops less ... I think
12:59 < esden> ;-)
12:59 < blindcoder> *harr*
12:59 < esden> netrunner: tell us your hoplist
13:00 < netrunner> esden: be quiet or I'll switch my route on top of your head
13:00 < esden> urgh
13:00 * -> esden switching of his implants
13:00 * netrunner sshs to athalle, then sshs home and screens -r ther.
13:00 < netrunner> e
13:01 < esden> hmm ... I could ssh to athalle then to stusta then ssh to apollo using transconnect then ssh to poseidon ... and then to my router at home in ingolstadt
13:01 < esden> that is a nice route too
13:01 < blindcoder> hehe
13:01 < blindcoder> actually... I also sit on poseidon from home...
13:02 < esden> it would be nice if I could use the brick at bingo so I could route over isdn too from my home back to bingo internal network
13:02 < blindcoder> hehe
13:04 < esden> ahh I could insert a route from my main machine at stusta over serial line to the sun v100 and then connect further ...
13:11 < blindcoder> *lol*
13:12 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mnemoc
13:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc
13:13 < esden> ahh ... freenode splits ... 
13:13 < esden> they mess around once more
13:56 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:01 -!- Freak [freak@p508B11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting")
14:30 < rolla> re
14:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:42 < jsaw> ping Freak
14:46 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50893318.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:56 < Freak> jsaw?
15:08 < esden> re hi all
15:09 < jsaw> Freak: sorry, my boss...
15:10 < jsaw> I have sth. for you. What's your email?
15:10 < Freak> =)
15:10 < Freak> mail@sebastian-raible.de
15:10 < Freak> (everybody send spam now, please ;)
15:10 < esden> on my way ;-)
15:11 < Freak> I wonder.. what would you have for me, jsaw?
15:11 < Freak> esden: hehe
15:13 < jsaw> Freak: send (Bioinformatik in Heidelberg, Erweiterungsstudiengang)
15:13 < Freak> omg but thats contains "informatik". every studiengang containing "informatik" in its name contains lots of MATHS!! the ABSOLUTE EVILNESS
15:14 < jsaw> Oh, oh.
15:14 < Freak> yup.
15:14 < Freak> no-good for Freak.
15:16 < jsaw> How come? Hacking has a lot to do with math, or a least it has similiar semantics.
15:16 < Freak> haha ;)
15:16 < Freak> why does everyone consider me a hacker ;)
15:16 < Freak> all I ever "hack" is websites in php
15:17 < Freak> sorry dass ich dich desillusionieren muss :)
15:17 < jsaw> And? That is still hacking!
15:17 < Freak> heh
15:17 < Freak> whatever.. I'm just BAD at maths :)
15:19 < Freak> ok.. gots go to the arbeitsamt to tell them I'm another unemployed.
15:19 < Freak> ok I said that before but I missed their öffnungszeitens
15:19 < jsaw> me goes to finanzamt now... hehe have fun
15:19 < Freak> hehe
15:19 < Freak> I just had a phone call to the finanzamt
15:19 < Freak> actually I would have had to go there too
15:20 < Freak> but she told me she'd delete my account so I'd not have to do anything :)
15:20 < Freak> k bye then ;)
15:20 < jsaw> whatever, let's go, cu l8r everybody!
15:20 < Freak> cu
15:21 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting")
15:24 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801714.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F2CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@p50801714.dip.t-dialin.net)))
15:24 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
15:29 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux
15:30 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
15:32 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@202.156.147.131] has joined #rocklinux
15:39 < rolla> re
16:02 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:06 < Mike1> re all
16:36 < rolla> re
16:37 < rolla> I go on holliday on the 5th but I will have net access while gone
16:56 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
16:59 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
17:15 -!- Freak [freak@p508B11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Connection timed out)
17:18 -!- Freak [freak@p508B1D82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
17:52 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
18:03 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50816F87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:08 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:26 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50816F87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x")
18:34 < daja77> re
18:41 < netrunner> hi daja77
18:42 < daja77> hi netrunner
18:45 < Freak> re
18:47 < daja77> wb Freak
18:49 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
18:50 -!- mnemoc [neron@200.75.27.70] has quit ("...")
19:11 -!- fontenot [~fontenot@c-67-161-26-151.client.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
19:17 * daja77 off to party
19:17 < daja77> cu
19:17 < Ge0rG> daja77: have fun :)
19:17 < daja77> thx Ge0rG
19:20 -!- fontenot [~fontenot@c-67-161-26-151.client.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:34 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50816F87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:57 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAACFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:02 < tcr> moin all
20:08 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50816F87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
20:09 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:17 < tcr> hey ripclaw_afk
20:26 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:34 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:37 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p508028EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
20:51 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802AF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
20:57 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps")
20:59 < n00kie> Damn ISP
21:02 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090ADD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving")
21:08 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
21:09 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090ADD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the Apple Newton today!")
21:25 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026241.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:03 * Mike1 is away: working
22:04 < n00kie> Mike1: Have Fun :-))
22:04 < n00kie> Hola btw :)
22:05 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
22:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-53.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux
22:08 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-159.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tfing_!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-53.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr)))
22:08 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing
22:10 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:10 < n00kie> Hi ripclaw_afk
22:18 * netrunner found another way to tease esden ... sending him instant messages :)
22:23 < Freak> lol
22:38 -!- roberti [~roberto@237.Red-80-35-127.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:38 < roberti> hi
22:40 < tcr> moin
22:40 < roberti> i am going to install rocklinux
22:41 -!- ripclaw_afk [~ripclaw@p50891ADD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
22:41 < roberti> i am downloading the packages
22:41 < tcr> Good choice
22:41 < roberti> then i'll build them
22:41 < roberti> my question is
22:41 < roberti> i don't have a cd burner: how do i install rocklinux from a disk partition ?
22:43 < roberti> any idea ?
22:43 < daja77> re
22:43 < tcr> Chroot into a newly created root-system, and install all the .gem packages (they result from building) via 'mine'
22:45 < roberti> so
22:45 < roberti> after
22:45 < roberti> Build-Target
22:46 < roberti> i copy all the package to a tmp partition, mkfs.ext3(or whatever) / and then copy the packages in the newly created root-system ?
22:47 < tcr> not necessary
22:47 < tcr> mount that tmp partition just into the new /
22:48 < daja77> mine has a root option afaik
22:49 < daja77> mine -R $rootdir should do the trick
22:51 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95884B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:51 < roberti> mmm
22:51 < tsa> hi all
22:51 < roberti> but i am not currently using rocklinux, i have mandrake installed
22:51 < roberti> so i don't have mine installed
22:52 < tcr> roberti: Eh, well.. loop-mount the CD isos
22:52 < tcr> (which you can create after building)
22:53 < tcr> Then chroot into that dir and do just what you'd do if it was a real cd
22:53 < daja77> tcr: why, he can't install all the gems from $buildid/pkgs dir
22:53 < tcr> Is that supposed to be a question?
22:54 < daja77> no
22:54 < daja77> a definition ;-)
22:54 < tcr> then I dont really get it
22:55 < daja77> well if he builds rock from src, he doesn't have to create isos to loop mount them, all the packages are in build/$id/pkgs
22:58 < roberti> mmm
22:58 < tcr> Well, that loop-mounting wasn't meant for accessing to the package but to have a basic mini-rootfs with mine on it. He could also use the responsible tarfile (with a that mini system) itself too of course
22:58 < roberti> then how do i create the filesystem structure and move all the files there ?
22:59 < daja77> tcr: ok
22:59 < tcr> Uh pretty darn english, I gotta sleep
23:00 < roberti> :)
23:01 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving")
23:01 < tcr> roberti: Well, once you got into that mini-rootfs you can just do what's said in the guide under Installation (the guide is more or less dated, however)
23:03 < netrunner> hm ... that dependency check during build seems to have a problem with clusters :/
23:04 < tcr> what d'ya mean? (Never did a cluster build though)
23:05 < daja77> I guess some packages were build before others which they depend on
23:08 < netrunner> tcr: I just saw that freefont had an error. missing dirs from xfree86. then I noticed that x is still building, must have started shortly before. so the check thought that x was built, since freefont depends on x11
23:09 < daja77> bein involved in developing parallel stuff, i was wondering the whole time if rock builds would work flawlessly
23:10 < netrunner> daja77: it does mostly. but as you see, there are some issues while restarting a cluster build.
23:10 < daja77> ah ic :)
23:11 < netrunner> daja77: eg I would suggest that a sigterm to Build-Target is passed to the childs too. otherwise they might go on building for noticable time.
23:11 < netrunner> (dunno if this is realizeable in bash though)
23:11 < daja77> suggest it on the list ...
23:12 < daja77> yepp bash sucks sometimes
23:12 < tcr> netrunner: It should in bash
23:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-109.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:12 < holyolli> moin
23:13 < tsa> hi holyolli
23:13 < holyolli> moin tsa
23:13 < tcr> netrunner: Do you think it's a bug what you found or natural fact of parallelity?
23:15 < netrunner> tcr: as I haven't checked where it comes from I am not sure. But my intention is that it is a bug in the procedure how dependencys are checked. x11 was reported built while it was still building, this is what I see. therefore freefont started and failed.
23:16 < netrunner> could even be that xfree86 was still unpacking while freefont started, unpacked and configured and failed, since xfree is a bigger package and my downloads are nfs mounted and slow to access.
23:17 < tcr> netrunner: how can freefront start if xfree isnt yet built?
23:18 < netrunner> 23:16 builder:      finished job '5-xfree86' (ok)
23:18 < netrunner> 22:25 builder:      finished job '5-freefonts' (ERROR)
23:19 < netrunner> tcr: that is the question that is to be resolved.
23:19 < tcr> Ah, then it's a bug in how the pkg queue is created, I guess
23:19 < netrunner> 22:24 builder:      building job '5-xfree86' (28262) ..
23:19 < netrunner> 22:25 builder:      building job '5-freefonts' (26040) ..
23:19 < tcr> hm
23:19 < netrunner> so freefont started right after xfree was started.
23:19 < tcr> Ok, then my assumption is wrong
23:20 < tcr> Whatever it is, you should keep an eye on it, and report it to clifford as soon as possible.
23:20 < tcr> That's a kind of thing that _must_ be fixed for a 2.0
23:20 < netrunner> tcr: I'll write a mail to the list now, since I _should_ be learning right now :)
23:20 < tcr> even for a release candidate imho
23:21 < tcr> I'm fine with that. Will go sleeping right away anyway
23:21 < daja77> there are more things than this ...
23:21 < tcr> Yeah the things I reported ;)
23:21 < tcr> gn8 all
23:21 < daja77> hehe if have some time I'll report too
23:21 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAACFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!")
23:36 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090AB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:37 < kasc_> moin
23:37 < daja77> moin kasc_
23:38 < kasc_> my new notebook has finally arrived :)
23:38 < daja77> cool
23:38 < kasc_> as soon as its up and running i can continue working on rock again
23:38 < Ge0rG> kasc_: what model do you have?
23:38 < daja77> you come to linuxtag?
23:38 < dreamind> *yawn*
23:39 < daja77> hehe Ge0rG the laptop boy
23:39 < kasc_> Ge0rG: issam i think
23:39 < Ge0rG> kasc_: hm... never heard that one
23:39 < Ge0rG> daja77: :-P
23:39 < dreamind> hm, powerbooks rock :)
23:39 < kasc_> some stylish silver one with athlon 2400+ and built in wlan and stuff ;)
23:39 < kasc_> daja77: i hope so
23:40 < Ge0rG> kasc_: linux compatible wlan?
23:40 < daja77> if you have rock on them, yes ...
23:40 < dreamind> daja77: well else they rule *fg* ;)
23:40 < kasc_> Ge0rG: at least amd claims so. havent had a look for the drivers, yet
23:40 * dreamind thinks of debian/rules *grin*
23:40 < daja77> bwahahahaha
23:41 < dreamind> (this wasn't thought to start a flame btw)
23:41 < kasc_> does anyone remember where to get the latest rock sources via subversion?
23:41 < kasc_> googling with lynx kinda sux
23:41 < roberti> lol
23:42 < roberti> lynx sucks
23:42 < daja77> svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk
23:42 < dreamind> use links :)
23:42 < roberti> whatever you do with it
23:42 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090ADD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:42 < kasc_> ah, thx
23:42 < kasc_> oh, where did my other client go to?
23:42 < daja77> huh?
23:43 < dreamind> how far is the ppc port of rock?
23:43 < kasc_> this client is from my notebook, the other client should be from my host box
23:43 < daja77> dreamind: according to rxr, it is the best distro available for ppc atm
23:43 < roberti> how do i find out what is the name of the atm-tools package in rock linux ?
23:44 < dreamind> daja77: well I doubt that.
23:44 < daja77> dreamind: why
23:45 < dreamind> is ikeyd included in rock? or which daemon is used for the special keys found on powerbooks/iBooks?
23:45 < kasc_> svn keeps telling me something about a bad URL. any ideas?
23:45 < netrunner> kasc_: I guess you have experienced the usual t disconnect
23:45 < dreamind> is the benh kernel patch included with rock?
23:46 < roberti> how come RFCs are in the base installation ? :)
23:46 < daja77> dreamind: yes benh is in it, and hw autodetection and stuff
23:46 < Ge0rG> you need RFCs to use irc, ftp, etc ;)
23:46 < roberti> lol
23:47 < tsa> hehe
23:47 < tsa> rfcs are important
23:47 < dreamind> well hw detection is nothing new, there is "discover" for several other dists.
23:48 < daja77> ask rxr about this, I don't have apple stuff, + I do not consider buying it
23:48 < tsa> hehe
23:48 < daja77> hi tsa
23:49 < tsa> hi daja77
23:49 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090AB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:49 < kasc_> roberti: did you never irc using telnet? ;p
23:49 < kasc_> ah, looks i'm back... well kinda
23:49 < daja77> multiple kasc_ omg
23:50 < dreamind> daja77: well I dunno any other piece of hardware where you can access your firmware/bios by telnet =)
23:50 * netrunner guesses kasc is really agent smith's nick, and he is forking ...
23:51 < daja77> hmm I thought you can do that on hp stations too
23:51 < dreamind> netrunner: lol
23:51 < dreamind> daja77: hm, afaik only serial console
23:51 < dreamind> at least on my hp c200 I recently sold.
23:51 < kasc_> agent smith?
23:52 < daja77> so what, if that is apple's big feature I am rather unimpressed
23:52 < dreamind> lol nope thats not the apple's big feature ;)
23:53 < dreamind> I think the major feature is, that there is no really compareable laptop to an iBook or a powerbook
23:53 < daja77> have I already mentioned that apple is on my hatelist since this week?
23:53 < dreamind> because of what?
23:54 < daja77> because they think it is a great idea suing free software projects that emulate their look
23:54 < dreamind> lol
23:54 < dreamind> you mean the dock for windows?
23:54 < daja77> yepp
23:55 < daja77> the did it before on linux based projects
23:55 < dreamind> well IMHO they copied the look which is copyrighted.
23:55 < tsa> uhm.
23:55 < dreamind> yup but IMHO only with exact ui copies.
23:55 < daja77> yeah and I hate such crap
23:55 < tsa> firmware access with telnet?
23:55 < dreamind> tsa: yup.
23:55 < tsa> omg
23:55 < daja77> security hole, 'nuff said
23:55 < tsa> daja77: indeed.
23:56 < tsa> i wonder how one should use such a "feature" in a production environment..
23:56 < dreamind> only if you enable it which is definetely not the cause in the default config, 'nuff said :P
23:56 < daja77> it would rule if you could access it via ssh ...
23:56 < tsa> i'd rather prefer sun's openboot, then.
23:56 < dreamind> tsa: why? openfirmware is nearly the same.
23:57 < dreamind> its simply a forth interpreter.
23:57 < tsa> (x86 sucks, btw..)
23:57 < dreamind> tsa: yup it does.
23:57 < dreamind> but sun laptops suck really ass.
23:57 * tsa hugs his sun boxen..
23:58 < tsa> ack, they're too expensive
23:58 * dreamind remembers the ones from tadpole and the sun voyager.
23:58 < dreamind> so I prefer ppc 'bout them all :)
23:59 < tsa> http://www.naturetech.com.tw/sparcprd.htm
23:59 < daja77> not really
23:59 < dreamind> daja77: well, so why not? whats so bad with ppc?
--- Log closed Fri Jul 04 00:00:20 2003