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--- Log opened Mon Jul 07 00:00:31 2003
--- Day changed Mon Jul 07 2003
00:02 < daja77> *lol*
00:03 < daja77> esden: btw have you seen yesterday's uf static?
00:04 < Freak> ah everybody's been telling me how great uf was yesterday..
00:04 < Freak> I haven't yet looked at it.
00:05 < daja77> well in america it is today's
00:05 < daja77> then do so: https://www.userfriendly.org/static/
00:05 < daja77> :)
00:06 < Freak> hehehe
00:06 < Freak> he doesnt look like linus a lot tho ;)
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00:07 < daja77> *gg* yes
00:07 < esden> daja77: nope ...
00:08 < daja77> then I don't have to tell what to do ...
00:08 < daja77> tell you even
00:09 < esden> loool
00:09 < esden> the strip is cool
00:10 < daja77> yesterday's is nice too
00:11 * jsaw likes ex-box
00:11 * daja77 too
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00:19 < esden> "tolstoy schwere kost" <- full ack ... it is very hard stuff ;-)
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00:22 < |roberto|> hi there
00:22 < esden> hi |roberto| 
00:33 < jsaw> gotta take a nap, cu l8r
00:33 < esden> n8 jsaw 
00:36 < dreamind> Hi esden
00:40 < esden> hi dreamind 
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02:30 < holyolli> moin
02:46 < esden> moin
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02:46 < esden> humm
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06:21 < rolla> re
06:21 < mnemoc> hi rolla
06:23 < rolla> how is it going
06:25 < rolla> ttyl
06:27 < mnemoc> fine... building stage 9 (first time in life) and doing a report for univ.
06:27 < mnemoc> and you?
07:03 < blindcoder> moin
07:05 < mnemoc> moin blindcoder
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07:49 < Pyro> moin all.
07:49 < blindcoder> moin Pyro
07:50 < Pyro> hi Blindy
07:50 < Pyro> blindcoder: How are you doing today my friend?
07:50 < Pyro> hope you had a nice weekend
07:52 < blindcoder> ah well...
07:53 < blindcoder> could have been worse... could have been better
07:53 * Pyro staring at his current generic build 
07:53 < Pyro> geez this builds reallt take long
07:53 < Pyro> blindcoder: that doesn't really sound too optimistic
08:04 < Pyro> ok bed calls, n8 all
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08:55 < daja77> moin
10:07 < netrunne1> moin, 2
10:08 < daja77> moin netrunne
10:08 < daja77> :)
10:09 < blindcoder> hmm
10:10 < blindcoder> is it somehow possible to interfere with the build process of a package from within another package?
10:10 < mnemoc> parse-config
10:12 < blindcoder> parse-config?
10:13 < mnemoc> after pkg's .conf is loaded, all parse-config files are procesed
10:14 < blindcoder> so I'd have to create a package/blindcoder/lpp/parse-config file
10:14 < mnemoc> yep
10:14 < blindcoder> and then check if we build a linux24* package, then if lpp is meant to be built and then do my changes?
10:15 < mnemoc> you are quick ;)
10:15 < blindcoder> hm... sound like much overhead, since I only want to change these three packages out of 785
10:15 < mnemoc> take a look a package/mnemoc/vserver/parse-config
10:15 < blindcoder> hmm.. will do
10:16 < blindcoder> hmm... guess I have no other choice then...
10:16 < mnemoc> vquota's pars-econfig is nicer
10:17 < mnemoc> rock is designed to be that way
10:18 < mnemoc> . package/*/*/parse-config
10:18 < mnemoc> same to postsysfiles
10:18 < mnemoc> and pkgcheck, etc.
10:18 < blindcoder> I just wondered, because cchamilt sent me the lpp with pkg_linux24{-src,-header}.conf files
10:18 < blindcoder> so I thought those were included by the linux24* packages
10:19 < mnemoc> you can do that from target's dir
10:19 < blindcoder> mhm, yeah. found that.
10:19 < mnemoc> loaded instead of $pkg/$pkg.conf
10:20 < mnemoc> parse-config is better, but more expensive
10:20 < blindcoder> but since lpp is not target-specific I will use he parse-config solution. thanks :-)
10:20 < mnemoc> :-)
10:58 < blindcoder> strange
10:58 < blindcoder> my parse-config doesn't get included...
11:00 < blindcoder> or are they only included in stages 3+ or something like that?
11:26 < rxr> re
11:28 < blindcoder> hi rxr
11:29 < rxr> hi blindcoder
11:30 < esden> good morning everyone
11:30 < blindcoder> rxr: are the packages' parse-config files only included in chroot aor something like that?
11:30 < blindcoder> esden: moin
11:31 < esden> blindcoder: they are being included in every stage
11:31 < blindcoder> hm... that's bad...
11:31 < blindcoder> because package/blindcoder/lpp/parse-config definately oesn't get included in 0-linux24-header
11:32 < esden> you can if[ "$stagelevel" -ge 2 ] ; then ....
11:32 < esden> blindcoder: it is being included for sure
11:32 < esden> should be at least
11:32 < esden> why do you think that it is no being done?
11:32 < blindcoder> well, I have a echo_status "MEEPMEEP" as first line in it...
11:32 < blindcoder> and there is no MEEPMEEP in the log file
11:33 < blindcoder> and there is also no trace of the other commands in it being executed
11:33 < esden> try doing normal echo instead
11:34 < esden> blindcoder: I am modifying lots of packages with package/base/dietlibc/parse-config
11:34 < esden> and it is working ... 
11:34 < blindcoder> also in stage 0?
11:35 < esden> check if you find your parse config in ... build/<your config>/tools.cross/lib/parse-config
11:36 < blindcoder> yes, it's there
11:36 < esden> hmm ...
11:38 < blindcoder> hhmm...
11:38 < blindcoder> looks like it is included...
11:38 < blindcoder> but it das no effect
11:38 < blindcoder> == 11:38:00 =[0]=> Building base/linux24-header [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
11:38 < blindcoder> This is lpp parse-config
11:38 < blindcoder> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
11:40 < esden> == 11:37:01 =[0]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 2.0.0-beta4].
11:40 < esden> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 1.21% cache hits so far in ccache.cross.
11:40 < esden> not building diet ...
11:40 < esden> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
11:40 < esden> -> Preparing build in src.dietlibc.1057570620.2013.3651552483
11:40 < blindcoder> shouldn't parse-config be read AFTER the .conf
11:40 < esden> the "not building diet ..." is in parse-config in dietlibc package
11:40 < esden> ahh ... ok
11:40 < esden> hmm ... then you do something else wrong ;-)
11:40 < esden> what have you tryed to do?
11:41 < esden> paste it please
11:41 < blindcoder> I want to alter linux24 from within another package (lpp)
11:42 < esden> and where is there a problem?
11:42 < blindcoder> ie: add a few patches
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11:42 < esden> what do you do exactly?
11:42 < blindcoder> problem: it doesn't work
11:42 < jsaw> re
11:42 < blindcoder> esden: query
11:44 < daja77> re
11:46 < esden> re jsaw 
11:46 < esden> hi daja77 
11:46 < daja77> hi esden, jsaw
11:48 < daja77> I can't finish my build >_<
11:51 < esden> daja77: why?
11:52 < daja77> cos I did a svn up to get the rockplug patch
11:52 < rxr> hi jsaw
11:52 < daja77> there was an update to 2.5 + xchat + icewm
11:53 < daja77> for some strange reason the script says missing packages, but I can't build them
11:53 < rxr> cu later
11:53 < daja77> cu rxr , hehe
11:55 * daja77 hates the linux25 packages
12:03 * blindcoder hates bugs in the linux24* packages
12:10 < blindcoder> ok, I think I got it now
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12:26 < daja77> hi ringo78
12:27 < jsaw> hi esden, daja77, rxr
12:27 < daja77> *gg*
12:28 < jsaw> ;-)
12:35 < esden> re hi all
12:39 * daja77 off again
12:39 < daja77> cu
12:41 < esden> blindcoder: how is lpp doing?
13:04 < netrunne1> *yawn*
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13:05 < esden> morning netrunner 
13:05 < netrunner> esden: morning? I've been to the uni, karlsfeld, schwabing already!
13:05 < esden> netrunner: am I blind or you are not in BS
13:06 < netrunner> esden: oh, you are in bs? tell me the redline!
13:06 < esden> what were you doing there?
13:06 < esden> netrunner: IO
13:06 < netrunner> esden: giving stuff by gf had borrowed from some girl back.
13:06 < netrunner> s/by/my/
13:07 < netrunner> esden: so not that interesting?
13:07 < esden> aha ... so you are doing slave work ... right? ;-)
13:07 < esden> netrunner: so 50/50
13:07 < netrunner> esden: It was almost on my way to karlsfeld.
13:08 < esden> netrunner: how comes?
13:11 * -> esden hungry
13:11 < daja77> what a fscked up build, d'oh
13:11 < esden> o_O
13:13 < daja77> my rev 671 based rt build >_<
13:14 < daja77> rock-src didn't build wtf
13:14 < daja77> and sysfiles and other stuff one needs badly
13:14 * blindcoder back
13:15 < daja77> errlist is as long as on my early 1.7 builds in march
13:24 < jsaw> oh oh
13:24 < daja77> 846 builds total, 478 completed fine, 368 with errors.
13:26 < netrunner> daja77: you seem to have a minor problem there ;)
13:26 < daja77> hehehe
13:27 * daja77 off for lecture
13:27 < jsaw> *minor*
13:30 < esden> ok ... I go hunting food and uwe ;-)
13:30 < esden> cu l8er
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14:54 < tcr> moin all
14:54 < blindcoder> moin tcr
14:55 < tcr> Are there adapters for usb to serial interface?
14:56 < blindcoder> I only know USB2PS2
14:57 < tcr> nope, that box doesn't even have ps2 :/
14:58 < blindcoder> then there are PS2-2-serial adapters ^^
14:58 < blindcoder> but directly USB2Serial... I doubt that
14:58 < tcr> I actually wanted to make a router out of it, but as I've a USB modem..
14:59 < tcr> and of course the box _must_ lack on usb interface
14:59 < blindcoder> what about an USB-Controller?
15:00 < tcr> Hmm, pci Steckplätze(?) are occupied, but there must one or two of AGP be free
15:00 < jsaw> p2302 or similiar e.g. (USB->serial)
15:00 < tcr> pci slots
15:00 < tcr> Silly me %)
15:01 * blindcoder going home. baba
15:01 < tcr> jsaw: p2302? What's that?
15:01 < tcr> cu blindcoder
15:01 < jsaw> cu blindcoder
15:01 < jsaw> tcr: wait...checking
15:02 < tcr> ok
15:04 < jsaw> it pl2303, see /usr/src/linux/driver/usb/serial. Check /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/usb-serial.txt for supported USB2Serial converters.
15:05 < jsaw> The pl2303 I have supports up to 230kbaud and works flawlessly.
15:06 < tcr> 230kbaud sounds slow, isn't it?
15:08 < jsaw> normal serial has max. 115200baud.
15:09 < tcr> Huh
15:16 < tcr> jsaw: Say, how many bits does a baud mean in this context?
15:16 < tcr> just one? or even a nibble?
15:19 < tcr> I'm not sure if it'd be a kinda bottleneck. After all that modem is a dsl modem.
15:23 < jsaw> that
15:23 < jsaw> that's definitely a bottleneck.
15:23 < jsaw> baud is roughly bit, depending on setup (8-N-1 etc)
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15:24 < jsaw> take a USB->Ethernet.
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15:26 < tcr> jsaw: Ah, yeah that'd be doable. Didn't know that something like that exist; do you know a online shop for those things?
15:26 < Mike1> hi jsaw
15:26 < Mike1> moin all
15:26 < tcr> moin Mike1
15:26 < jsaw> hi Mike1. thanks for your kind reply.
15:27 < Mike1> jsaw: i'm really sorry for my over reaction, please don't let my foolish attitudes stop you from helping us around, it is good to have your help.
15:29 < jsaw> Mike1: no, come on.
15:30 < Mike1> jsaw: its true, thx for helping around, i hope to see many more patches from you in a near future :)
15:30 < jsaw> ;-)
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15:32 < tcr> Aard: ping
15:33 < Aard> tcr: *patsch* :)
15:33 < jsaw> tcr: just to get it right: the box has no usb and no more free pci slot and the modem is a usb modem?
15:34 < Mike1> Aardvark :)
15:35 < tcr> jsaw: Well, an ethernet card is inside
15:35 < tcr> Aard: I won't be able to come to LinuxTag: my grandmother will celebrate birthday on that day...
15:36 < jsaw> tcr: then you have a problem. There are USB(hub)->Ethernet/Serial(device) converters, but not the other way round.
15:36 < Aard> tcr: celebrate with her on LinuxTag :)
15:37 < jsaw> tcr: if you know enough electronics, you can build one...
15:37 < tcr> Haha
15:37 < jsaw> tcr: shall I send you the datasheets? (hehe)
15:38 < tcr> What do you mean with USB->Ethernet converter?
15:40 < Mike1> jsaw: i will include gtkhtml3 and libsoup20 to gnome2
15:40 < Mike1> jsaw: evolution will stay in my repos though.
15:41 < jsaw> Mike1: I was wondering about the gnome2 repo. Do we follow GEP10 or 11 (I think it was called GEP, not sure anymore). Then, why is e.g. sawfish inside?
15:43 < Mike1> jsaw: i think we aren't _yet_
15:44 < Mike1> jsaw: rxr have been looking after the gnome repositories since they exist, and he has allowed to look after them only since a couple of weeks
15:45 < Mike1> jsaw: i'm currently in the process of getting gnome* debuged and properly working
15:45 < Mike1> jsaw: this will lead me to updating and possibly (re) moving a package or 2
15:46 < jsaw> Mike1: you have to especially look for the build order. rep-gtk for example is build in the wrong order.
15:47 < Mike1> jsaw: i know, already fixed :)
15:47 < Mike1> see my patch in a few minutes :)
15:49 < jsaw> Mike1: did you also check mergeant?
15:50 < Mike1> my build haven't get there :)
15:50 < Mike1> i left my home box running so i asume i will get the chance to check it out later tonight
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15:56 < Mike1> jsaw: fix for rep-gtk01 sent.
15:58 < jsaw> 01 or 10?
15:58 < Mike1> 0.17
15:59 < Mike1> jsaw: i was missing 3 packages to get to 10 when i left home
15:59 < jsaw> Mike1: what are you doing about the gconf files. rpm's normally process the schema  files after installation (I ask because of the shared files of libgnom22 and gnome-nautilus22). I thought, running gconftool as cron job would be the best.
16:01 < Mike1> your suggestion sounds fine, this build is my first attemp to check on the status on the gnome* stuff, so i'm trying to fix / update what i can, and also to find the bugs that are laying around.
16:02 < Mike1> jsaw: i will consider your idea of running gconftool as cron job when i get to libgnome22 and gnome-nautilus22
16:04 < jsaw> I'm really not sure about that. The problem is, that gconftool needs a source dir (see gconftool-2 --help, look for --makefile-install-rule). I haven't seen any package, that installs its files other than xml:///etc/opt/gnome2/gconf.xml.defaults , but one never knows.
16:05 < Mike1> jsaw: well as i mentioned before i haven't get there, but once i get ther and see the problem, i will work on solving the issue :)
16:07 < esden> gdday folks
16:11 < Mike1> God bless you esden
16:12 < esden> god bless you too Mike1 
16:12 < Mike1> how are you esden? had a nice weekend?
16:14 < esden> it was very nice thank you
16:15 < esden> and how was your weekend?
16:15 < esden> I heared that you have a decent connection now?
16:15 < esden> what kind of connection is it?
16:17 < Mike1> esden: i don't have it yet, but i will have an ADSL 1024/256
16:17 < Mike1> esden: that will be enough to keep me happy at home
16:17 < esden> yes I can imagine that
16:18 < Mike1> :)
16:18 < esden> then you will be online 24/7 ;-)
16:18 < Mike1> and my weekend was good thanks
16:18 < esden> nice to hear that
16:18 < Mike1> esden: yes i will be online 24/7
16:18 < Mike1> esden: very productive weekend i can tell :)
16:18 < esden> have you produced child processes or what ? ;-)
16:19 < esden> *vbeg*
16:19 < jsaw> Mike1: I screwed the scrollkeeper.cron file. Patch is on the way, plz also verify the confopt settings.
16:19 < Mike1> esden: grrr..
16:19 < Mike1> jsaw: will do so :)
16:20 < esden> Mike1: hehe ... I was right ... truth hurts the most ;-)
16:20 * Mike1 brabs his chainsaw .. 
16:20 < Mike1> grabs*
16:20 < esden> chainsaw barber ... cool
16:21 < Mike1> litle esden come here, lets have little conversation you and i
16:21 < Mike1> :P
16:21 < esden> yes mike *very big grin* /me takes out his katana
16:21 < Mike1> lol
16:22 < Mike1> esden: but first i need to finish commiting my patches
16:23 < esden> Mike1: ok ;-)
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16:23 < jsaw> cu l8r
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16:46 < tcr> Mike1 in patch fiebre!
16:47 < Mike1> tcr: you love it when i get like that don't you ?
16:47 < tcr> again, that's it :)
16:47 < Mike1> *vbeg*
16:47 < tcr> Yeah. Became so quiet on ml the last days anyway
16:48 < tcr> s,so,too,c
16:48 < Mike1> tcr: anyways, don't worry, i haven't finish testing all my stuff, so tomorrow i should move the ml a bit more :)
16:48 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
16:48 < Mike1> tcr: also no worries my patches are well tested :)
16:48 < Mike1> welcome back blindy
16:49 < blindcoder> thanks, man :)
16:49 < Mike1> tcr: i will try to get those " patch fiebres" more oftenly, so the impact is smaller
16:50 < blindcoder> /home/blindcoder/DEVELOPMENT/rock-1.7-bc/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 39: install_init: command not found
16:50 < blindcoder> hrm... not good
16:50 < Mike1> mm...
16:50 < Mike1> blindcoder: you are using cvs tree?
16:51 < blindcoder> fixd
16:51 < blindcoder> fixed
16:52 < Mike1> :)
16:52 < blindcoder> was an error in lpp's parse-config
16:52 < Mike1> a nice, ur testing it?
16:52 < blindcoder> I'm currenty running a build which I hope will have it enabld by default
16:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: good :)
16:53 < blindcoder> I had to change a ton of thingsw but it works :)
16:53 < tcr> lpp?
16:54 < Mike1> linux progressive patch
16:55 < tcr> ah
16:55 < blindcoder> linux progress patch
16:55 < Mike1> :)
16:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: whatever :P
16:56 < Mike1> prelink is braking because of some PPC code, damn it and it is _not_ a rock related problem :(
16:56 < Mike1> hope a new version comes out soon
16:58 * blindcoder now watching his build in #rocklinux-status again
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16:59 < esden> hehe ... anime rulez!!!
16:59 < Mike1> full ack
17:00 < tcr> Not my taste
17:00 < esden> blindcoder: this Animation Runner Kuromi-chan is _COOL_
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17:06 < blindcoder> esden: sre it is :)
17:07 * -> esden loughin his ass off ;-)
17:07 < blindcoder> hi cchamilt , dreamind
17:07 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I'm currently running a lpp-build :)
17:07 < esden> blindcoder: so you got it to work?!!!
17:07 < cchamilt> i cant get the progress bar, just the big picture
17:07 < esden> *cool* *jump_around*
17:08 < blindcoder> cchamilt: hmm... I'll have a quick look
17:08 < dreamind> hi blindcoder
17:08 < esden> hi cchamilt dreamind  ... sbtw ;-)
17:09 * tcr grunts a big LOL. He knew that rene would ask exactly this question
17:09 < tcr> hey cchamilt
17:09 < blindcoder> cchamilt: which logo did you use?
17:10 < cchamilt> my own
17:11 < blindcoder> hmm... has there been a progress bar at least during kernel boot? not init-boot?
17:11 < Mike1> tcr: laughting at me? ;-|
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17:12 < tcr> Mike1: how do you come to think so?
17:12 < Mike1> tcr: because i know you enough.
17:12 < cchamilt> no
17:13 < tcr> That's all FUD, Mike1 :P
17:13 < cchamilt> just regular console spew
17:14 < tcr> Mike1: Of course not at you; it's just that the occurrence was funny
17:14 < blindcoder> cchamilt: strange... maybe the console overwrote the progress bar...
17:14 < Mike1> tcr: yeah :)
17:14 < tcr> Mike1: well countered!
17:15 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I deactivated vc/0 and just rdirected console to /dev/tts/0
17:15 < cchamilt> oh
17:16 < blindcoder> It worked for me, but maybe that's not what you want
17:16 < cchamilt> maybe i should try that
17:16 < cchamilt> box is at linuxworld, cant try till its back home.
17:16 < rxr> re
17:16 < blindcoder> well, I can try around friday, when this build is finished
17:17 < blindcoder> rxr: re
17:17 * blindcoder will now prepare a patch to fix the buggy linux24* packages :D
17:17 < Mike1> welcome back rxr
17:18 < rxr> hi Mike1
17:18 < cchamilt> hi rxr
17:19 < cchamilt> got an interesting hwscan rockplug problem
17:19 < cchamilt> aic79xx is not 'sensed' by either
17:19 * tcr . o O ( should I obey the masses and also greet rxr, or should I be rebellic) ;)
17:20 < Freak> hehe
17:20 < tcr> Ah and there awakes the true rebell! What wonder, oh, what wonder
17:21 < Freak> thou shall not talk to the rebell.
17:22 < Mike1> rxr: so you prefer me to include a *tested* on my mail with tested patches?
17:22 * tcr phone
17:22 < Freak> should I go and compile 2.5.74 on my powerbook?
17:22 < Freak> (rxr?)
17:27 * tcr bbl
17:27 < rxr> Mike1: yes - please - otherwise I can not be sure who tested what ...
17:27 < Mike1> rxr: ok will do so
17:27 < rxr> Freak: no
17:27 < Mike1> rxr: all patches i sent are tested, just hold uucp till tsa approves it
17:28 < rxr> Freak: use the 2.4.x benh kernel patches ...
17:28 < Mike1> uucp patch is tested, but i'm not sure if tsa will want to update it
17:28 < rxr> Mike1: jups - they will be applied in some minutes
17:28 < rxr> Mike1: just watch the svn storm
17:28 < Freak> rxr: is there some special reason *not* to do it or is 2.4 with ben just equal?
17:28 < tcr> Mike1: But please don't put a [TESTED] into the subject, but state that in the very beginning of your mail
17:28 < Freak> or 2.5 worse than 2.4 with ben .. or something
17:28 < Mike1> rxr: svn have been a little quite the last days anyways, i had to catch up some attention :)
17:29 < Mike1> tcr: will do so :)
17:29 < tcr> Mike1: thanks (it + [PATCH] would consume so much space)
17:29 < Mike1> tcr: but maybe i should send then to you in another mail with a [...T...E...S...T...E...D...] subject :))
17:30 < Mike1> *vbeg*
17:30 < esden> Mike1: you could also use ascii art and make it even bigger ;-)
17:30 < Mike1> esden: hey man good idea, thanks :)
17:31 < rxr> Freak: 2.4 +benh is just the perfect kernel for Apple hardware currently - with 2.5 you will miss quite much  - maybe even powermanaging your graphic-card
17:31 < tcr> bah, waste of Bandwith
17:31 < esden> or make the mail html and include a big image 1600x1200 bmp format with tested string in it ;-)
17:31 < Mike1> esden: ROTL, i guess tcr will love this
17:31 < esden> hehe ... I hope so ... it is my idea though ... so he has to like it ;-)
17:32 < tcr> I personally don't care much about bandwith, but I guess other people vigorously do
17:32 < Freak> rxr: I have no such thing as powermanagement for anything.
17:33 < Mike1> tcr: that mails will be sent only to you  :)
17:33 < Freak> rxr: the pb has a nvidia card, remember..
17:36 < tcr> Mike1: :P "Oh holy Killfile, thou who shalt be hallowed for eternity, I summon you in bottommost faithfulness"
17:36 < Mike1> :PP
17:37 * tcr is going to friends right away. Cu later
17:37 < blindcoder> okay, linux24* fix sent
17:37 < Freak> test
17:37 < Freak> sry :)
17:38 < Freak> just been testing if the re-plugged keyboard still worked :)
17:41 < daja77> blindcoder: what was wrong with linux24?
17:41 < blindcoder> daja77: lx_patches was reset during reading the .desc file but was previously msdified by a parse-config script
17:42 < daja77> ah ok no problem to bother for me thx
17:43 < rxr> daja77: could you try to build linux25 on x86 with svn HEAD ?
17:44 < daja77> yepp
17:44 < daja77> rxr: why the new xchat & icewm isn't on build list after svn up?
17:46 < rxr> daja77: hae?
17:47 < daja77> I did an svn up
17:48 < daja77> which update linux25, icewm and xchat, but those packags were not rebuild, and said to be missing by Build_Target
17:58 < daja77> *damn*
17:58 * blindcoder plays a bit of bzFlag o the happypenguin server
17:58 < daja77> great svn head updates thousands of packages, will take ages to download
17:59 * Mike1 hides
17:59 < rxr> daja77: just testing linux25 for me on x86 would be nice ;-) *g*
18:00 < daja77> ja ja schon dabei
18:00 < daja77> that means no rc1 running on my laptop on linuxtag .,.
18:01 < rxr> I think the -rc1 will be finished slightly after linuxtag ... :-(
18:01 < daja77> well I like my beta6 isos :))
18:01 < rxr> jups ;-)
18:01 < rxr> We'll give away -beta6 ...
18:02 < daja77> okis
18:02 < daja77> but which, generic or drock?
18:02 < daja77> who buys the cds, btw?
18:05 < rxr> daja77: dunno - but the money should not be  problem - usual the poeple give some EURs for them ...
18:05 < daja77> so we buy them in KA?
18:06 < rxr> it would be nicer to bring them along - there is often enough todo there ..
18:06 < rxr> btw: You all noticed that I'll be only there on Saturday and Sunday ? (friends marry on that Friday ...)
18:07 < daja77> so everybody brings some, or do is there an ''elected'' who does it
18:07 < daja77> rxr: yeah I noticed
18:07 < rxr> we should organize who will bring along how many - so we make sure we have some in the end ...
18:08 < daja77> hmm maybe I should ask ripclaw
18:09 < daja77> rxr: sorry I wrote no mail, I thought it wouldn't be neccessary after reading commit mails
18:16 < mnemoc> re
18:16 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:16 < Mike1> hi mnemoc
18:16 < daja77> hi mnemoc
18:17 < Mike1> mnemoc: did you svn up already ?
18:18 < mnemoc> w8
18:18 < mnemoc> not yep
18:18 < mnemoc> (hi all)
18:18 < Mike1> mnemoc: hehe, the tree has changed.. a bit.. :)
18:19 < daja77> >_<
18:19 < Mike1> daja77: ?
18:19 < Mike1> h hi daja77 btw
18:19 < daja77> hi Mike1
18:20 < Mike1> daja77: why that face?
18:20 < mnemoc> Mike1: ¿?
18:20 < Mike1> mnemoc: nothing, just few updates..
18:21 < daja77> Mike1: I read 5-rtai.err
18:21 < mnemoc> i have no problem with tested updates ;)
18:21 < daja77> *vbeg*
18:21 < Mike1> mnemoc: they are tested :)
18:23 < mnemoc> blindcoder: is your idea to lx_patches for ziped ones to avoid unpackage them in parse-configs?
18:23 < Mike1> ;-|
18:24 < mnemoc> or duplicate $patchfiles effort?
18:24 < blindcoder> mnemoc: no, that was chris idea to save some space cause those patches can becoms several MB unpacked
18:24 < blindcoder> okay, I'll go home now
18:24 < blindcoder> brb
18:25 < mnemoc> k
18:27 < daja77> haha it seems nobody has tried to compile rtai agianst 2.4.21, makefile failes >_<
18:28 < mnemoc> doh
18:28 < daja77> it sucks
18:29 < daja77> thing is the do a make deps, and checking for a include/asm dir in kernel src tree, but there is none anymore
18:30 < mnemoc> you will have to send them the proper patch :-)
18:31 < daja77> when I figured out what causes that trouble
18:31 < mnemoc> Mike1: 8 C' :-(
18:31 < Mike1> mnemoc: ??
18:32 < mnemoc> Conflicts
18:32 < Mike1> define Conflicts
18:32 < mnemoc> >>>>> .mine <<<< .r719 ;-) ... diferent updated versions
18:32 < mnemoc> oficial was a, i had b and you patch to c
18:33 < Mike1> mm..
18:33 < rxr> mnemoc: which files ?
18:33 < mnemoc> webmin and others... i already fix it
18:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: define fix
18:34 < mnemoc> make mine looks like yours
18:34 < Mike1> ah so you had already updated?
18:34 < mnemoc> yep..
18:35 < mnemoc> a->b vs a->c : Conflict
18:35 * daja77 wird sich verstecken
18:35 < daja77> d'oh
18:35 < Mike1> mnemoc: mm..
18:35 < daja77> wrong window
18:35 < mnemoc> rxr: can i make an option to build perl agains bdb41?
18:36 < daja77> perl needs bdb wtf
18:36 < mnemoc> and bdb33
18:36 < mnemoc> forced
18:36 < mnemoc> compatibility reasons :|
18:38 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:39 < Mike1> rippy!!!!!!
18:39 < daja77> ... this is _not_ my day
18:40 * Mike1 offers daja77 some Penguin Mints
18:40 < daja77> thx
18:40 < Mike1> daja77: don't worry, things will change :)
18:41 < daja77> make dep doesn't work with linux2.4.21 wtf
18:42 * daja77 gets mad
18:43 < Mike1> daja77: smile ;-)
18:43 < daja77> 8-)
18:44 < rxr> mnemoc: hm ... - I need to meditate about this ...
18:45 < daja77> hehe master yoda will meditate on rocksrc :)
18:45 < mnemoc> :-)
18:46 < daja77> any idea why 368 packages failed to build?
18:46 < mnemoc> wtf?
18:47 < mnemoc> did you Download?
18:47 < daja77> yes ...
18:47 < daja77> *lol* https://www.thesun.co.uk//article/0,,2-2003310256,00.html
18:49 < ripclaw> hi there !
18:49 < daja77> rxr:
18:49 < daja77> > drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c: In function `sbp2scsi_complete_ ..
18:49 < daja77> !> drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c:2639: `PCI_DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL' un ..
18:49 < daja77> !> drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c: In function `sbp2scsi_abort':
18:49 < daja77> !> drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c:2798: `PCI_DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL' un ..
18:49 < daja77> !> make[2]: *** [drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o] Error 1
18:49 < daja77> !> make[1]: *** [drivers/ieee1394] Error 2
18:49 < daja77> !> make: *** [drivers] Error 2
18:49 < daja77> hi ripclaw
18:50 < ripclaw> did anyone experience problems with installing 2.0.0beta6 rev 625 - i did a standard install w. the boot dir mounted on part1 and the root dir on part4 - the system does not seem to have any bash
18:51 < ripclaw> even though i installed all packages - the root on the disk looks like the cdroot.
18:52 < daja77> hmm I never tried on systems with separated /boot and /
18:53 < ripclaw> rxr ?
18:54 < rxr> ripclaw: is this the official -beta6 iso ? or an own build?
18:55 < Mike1> ripclaw: i have installed a server with that specific iso, /, /boot, /usr, /var and /home on different partitions
18:55 < ripclaw> official cdrom rxr - the one on rocklinux.org
18:56 < rxr> ripclaw: there should not be a problem - but I can retest later ...
18:57 < rxr> me away to buy some food
18:57 < Mike1> rxr: i tested that iso, had no problem
18:57 < Mike1> enjoy rxr
18:57 < rxr> jups me neither ;-)
18:57 < daja77> gruni had problems afaik, anyway
18:57 < ripclaw> setup was bootin 5-1-1 partitions 1 and 4 ext2, 2 and 3 swap
18:57 < rxr> But tonight I'll setup some x86 box from the crap parts I have lying around here for testings ...)
18:58 < rxr> I'll retest.
18:58 < rxr> cu
18:58 < Mike1> ripclaw: mmm...
18:58 < Mike1> daja77: ?
18:58 < ripclaw> the problem was recreateable, i can bring the box to lxtag.
18:58 < ripclaw> cu rxr
18:58 < Mike1> ripclaw: can you bring it to cr ? :))
18:59 < Mike1> ripclaw: this iso you installed for beta6, was drock, generic, or minimal?
18:59 * blindcoder back
18:59 < daja77> ripclaw: we can have a look at ltag, /me has some other isos if it doesn't help at all
19:00 < ripclaw> drock
19:00 < Mike1> ripclaw: quite weird honestly.
19:00 < Mike1> ripclaw: did you try to re-install ?
19:01 * daja77 wondering if Mike1 reads
19:01 < Mike1> daja77: ?
19:01 < ripclaw> yes reinstalled 4 times, same always
19:01 < Mike1> ripclaw: mm..
19:02 < daja77> Mike1: you already said what you asked ... :)
19:02 < daja77> s/you/he
19:02 < Mike1> daja77: i'm just trying to make sure of things
19:02 < Mike1> to try to help Master ripclaw :)
19:03 < daja77> go on newbie Mike1 :)
19:03 < Mike1> daja77: actually this time i wasn't joking about the 'Master' thing.
19:04 < Mike1> ripclaw: i guess you have 2 choices, you can try another iso, or bring the box over to lxtag
19:04 < daja77> Mike1: I know ::)
19:06 < ripclaw> will try b5
19:06 < Mike1> ripclaw: is it for a workstation?
19:06 < daja77> or generic isos
19:06 < Mike1> ripclaw: maybe you wanna install minimal, and build ur own isos :)
19:07 < daja77> or this
19:07 < Mike1> but daja77's generic isos should do fine
19:08 < daja77> at least I used them successfully on 4 different machines
19:08 < daja77> even if that build is a bit older (1-2days)
19:10 * daja77 off to a meeting
19:10 < daja77> cu
19:10 < mnemoc> gl
19:11 < Mike1> sendmail.8.12.10.Beta2.tar.gz mmm...
19:11 < Mike1> guess 8.12.10 will be out before july is over..
19:14 * blindcoder burns his k6-3 ROCK 2.0.0-rc1-dev-bc isos
19:23 < Mike1> server:~$ cat /etc/VERSION
19:23 < Mike1> ROCK Linux 1.3.11-DEV i686 (native, 2000/09/23)
19:23 < Mike1> server:~$
19:27 < blindcoder> harr
19:27 < Mike1> blindcoder: ? :)
19:27 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ cat /etc/VERSION
19:27 < blindcoder> ROCK Linux 2.0.0-beta4 (2003/05/27)
19:27 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$
19:28 < Mike1> ha!
19:28 < blindcoder> :)
19:28 < blindcoder> I want to get LPP working before I upgrade again ;D
19:28 < Mike1> sure you should have rc1 :)
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19:31 < blindcoder> I hope for -final to be next install
19:31 < blindcoder> -final-bc to be exact :)
19:32 < Mike1> :))
19:33 < blindcoder> hrm... finding a new employer around here is... difficult at best... not to mention one who works with linux...
19:36 < Mike1> blindcoder: looking for a new job?
19:38 < blindcoder> Mike1: I'll probably be unemployed by 01.10.
19:38 < Mike1> mm.. that sux
19:39 < blindcoder> yeah
19:39 < uninvit3d> sux
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19:40 < Mike1> hi uninvit3d :)
19:40 < uninvit3d> hiya dude ;-)
19:41 < blindcoder> hi uninvit3d
19:46 < uninvit3d> hiya blindy
19:49 < uninvit3d> going unemployed ?
19:49 < uninvit3d> ;-(
19:49 < blindcoder> as it seems - yes
19:49 < uninvit3d> why that ?
19:49 < blindcoder> umemployed, but not without future :-)
19:50 < blindcoder> well, I'm currently on "Consultant"-Status, and consultants are currently reduced by 100%
19:50 < uninvit3d> oh thats quite much i guess.
19:51 < blindcoder> yepp
19:52 < uninvit3d> .
19:54 < blindcoder> but I have a few options right now, so I don't worry too much.
19:54 < blindcoder> And I still have my job until 30th of Sept.
19:54 < uninvit3d> define options
19:57 < blindcoder> a handful of places I can sent applications to
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20:06 < blindcoder> good night everyone
20:07 < uninvit3d> ciao blindcoder
20:07 < rxr> cu blindcoder
20:07 < Mike1> blindcoder: oyasumi nasai
20:07 < Mike1> re rxr :)
20:07 < rxr> yeah - re
20:07 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9EB7C01.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:07 < dennis> hi
20:08 < Mike1> hi dennis
20:08 < dennis> i was about 3 month afk ;)
20:10 < uninvit3d> hi dennis the menace ;-)
20:10 < dennis> esden, blind, etc, where's "hannes/fredi"? never heard from him for some month...
20:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABBAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:20 < tcr> re all
20:20 < Mike1> welcome back tcr
20:29 < rxr> Mike1: btw. have you tested my new linuxrc modifications for the install disk?
20:29 * rxr eating ...
20:30 < Mike1> rxr: well i built install target with this and had no errors, still waiting for my generic build to finish to test on for an install.
20:30 < Mike1> enjoy food rxr
20:38 < rxr> Mike1: you tested it with the 0 options?
20:38 < Mike1> mmhh ? 0 options?
20:39 < Mike1> now i think i'm not sure
20:39 < Mike1> was i supposed to do any special changes or tweaks?
20:39 < Mike1> i simply ran a build
20:40 < rxr> aside from "scanning for devices" I rearanged the options so that you only need to use the option "0" the new default at each question to do a normal CD installation ...
20:41 < Mike1> this is during boottime..., my build isn't over so i can't tell ..
20:41 < Mike1> will take me at least 1 more day to come up with exact results.
20:42 < Mike1> i need to eat, be back in some minutes
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20:46 < rxr> me eating too - so cu in some minutes ...
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21:24 < Mike1> re.
21:26 < tcr> re Mike1
21:26 < Mike1> :)
21:28 < rxr> re
21:28 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip082-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux
21:28 < Mike1> rxr:  :)
21:30 < Mike1> hi Robin_Root
21:31 < rxr> oh shit - gsmp.tfh-berlin.de had an outage due to routing failures yesterday? :-(
21:32 < rxr> shit damn admins
21:32 < rxr> they should replace them with me ...
21:32 < mnemoc> you are more expensive ;)
21:32 < Mike1> mnemoc: are you cheaper? :P
21:33 < mnemoc> :(
21:33 < mnemoc> me sucks
21:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: i'm teasing you bro! :)
21:33 < mnemoc> ik :)
21:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: how is everything over there in Chile?
21:34 < mnemoc> wet :)
21:34 < mnemoc> it's raining as hell
21:35 < Mike1> hehe same here, lots of flood all over the country
21:35 < mnemoc> you are used to
21:35 < Mike1> more or less
21:35 < Mike1> it rains in my town, but not that much to have floods
21:36 < mnemoc> where do you live? pacific, center or atlantic?
21:36 < Mike1> center :)
21:36 < Mike1> athlantic is too damn hot for my like
21:37 < Mike1> and pacific mm.. also hot, i do not like hot wether
21:37 < Mike1> weather*
21:37 < mnemoc> heheh
21:37 < mnemoc> gotta go... cu
21:37 < Mike1> cu amery
21:38 < mnemoc> cu mbolanos
21:38 < Mike1> :P
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21:45 < daja77> re
21:47 < rxr> hi daja77
21:47 < daja77> re hi rxr
21:47 < daja77> rxr: linux25 failed ...
21:49 < rxr> daja77: my build is currently running ...
21:49 < rxr> I saw in firewire on your side?
21:50 < rxr> i fixed a "ROCK Linux - linux configuration mess the .config up" bug - the rest should be "2.5 is not ready yet compile errors" ...
21:50 < daja77> yes
21:50 < daja77> then throw it out
21:50 < rxr> nope - just blacklist bad drivers ....
21:51 < rxr> vanilla 24 or 24benh also do not build without blacklisted config options ...
21:51 < rxr> and 2.5 runs much better in some USB situations ... and multiple ROCK build conditions
21:51 < daja77> hehe then we throw them all out :)
21:51 < rxr> we'll have a 2.6 in some months (4-6?) so we start testing and help hardening ...
21:52 < daja77> *hmpf*
21:53 * Mike1 thinks rockers should contribute a bit on linux2.5 and linux2.4 development
21:54 < Mike1> including myself yes..
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21:55 < daja77> Mike1: well I tend to agree with you, but downloading a new 20mb kernel every few days which fails afterwards is quite frustrating
21:55 < Mike1> daja77: cvs...
21:55 < rxr> Mike1: or this damn bitkeeper for the kernel ...
21:56 < Mike1> i don't know guys, i'm just not happy with both kernels needing black listed drivers ando so to work for us
21:57 < daja77> ack
21:57 < Mike1> i know not eveyrone has the skills to just jump in and fix code, but even bug reports can be very helpfull
21:57 < Mike1> and this is someone anyone can do
21:57 * daja77 not happy about glibc too, but that's another story
21:57 < daja77> Mike1: it is time consuming and not everybody has much time
21:58 < tcr> Mike1: What can we effectively do?
21:58 < daja77> ah hi tcr
21:58 < Mike1> tcr: maybe we could start at least reporting what is faling for _us_
21:58 < tcr> Mike1: OSDL has a big lab whose purpose is only compiling kernels with every combinations
21:58 < dennis> anybody from the "ingolstadt-boys" available?
21:59 < tcr> Mike1: Hmm, well yeah that's clear anyway
21:59 < tcr> hey daja77
21:59 < daja77> tcr: read your msg ;)
21:59 < tcr> Yo. :/
21:59 < rxr> some of those blacklisted configs are really easy to fix
22:00 < rxr> for 2.4 there are not many (at least on x86) - 2.5 has some more - but they will decrease soon since the kernel is now mocing towards 2.6 ...
22:00 < Mike1> rxr: well maybe we could jump in those blacklisted configs and try to fix them, it will help the kernel developm,ent, and more important, it will help ROCK
22:01 < rxr> Mike1: feel free ..
22:01 < Mike1> rxr: sure i will :)
22:01 < daja77> hehe :)
22:02 < Mike1> rxr: i'm as well trying to motivate others
22:02 < daja77> he is quite good on that
22:02 < rxr> a bigger problem then some not compiling drivers are real design issues - and that those damn people seem to rip devfs out of the kernel - I hope this will not happen (I'll not use this user-space devfs replacement crap ...)
22:02 < rxr> if this ever happens we (at least I) need to maintain a devfs add-on patch ...
22:03 < Mike1> rxr: count me in to help on this add-on if it happens
22:03 < daja77> they want to kick out devfs wtf
22:04 < daja77> *lol* my quote in the stats ...
22:05 < tcr> daja77: Because it's current implementation is more bloat than code
22:06 < daja77> tcr: yes and because it needs 3/4h to build that's ridiculous
22:07 < tcr> What's ridiculous? That they want to take it out, or that it takes so long?
22:08 < daja77> oh you were still talking about kernel, sorry
22:11 < Mike1> daja77: are you ok?
22:11 < daja77> ahem ... yes
22:15 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux
22:17 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux
22:18 < jose> hi everybody!
22:18 < tcr> moin
22:18 < jose> how is this rock thing going ?!
22:19 < tcr> A rock seldom goes, it rolls (more or less) ;)
22:22 < dennis> hi jose
22:24 < jose> good for you!
22:24 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026001.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:24 < jose> dennis: please to meet you!
22:24 < dreamind> Hi
22:25 < Mike1> dreamind.
22:25 < dreamind> hi Mike1 :)
22:25 < tcr> hey dreamind. How's things? Projects running well?
22:26 < dreamind> Hi tcr :)
22:26 < dreamind> tcr: well first I have to do some things for my study :(
22:26 * Mike1 will include oroborus in his rock repository after his current build is over.
22:27 < dreamind> ah, nice to hear =)
22:28 < tcr> hmm, is there some simple way to make acrobat reader print a file not black on white but some-color on white?
22:28 < Mike1> dreamind: so now you better do good work with it, because you will have me bugging you :))
22:28 < dreamind> hehe ;)
22:28 < dreamind> so lets see and wait ;) *grin*
22:28 < tcr> The black ink patrone is empty, but the color ones are almost full
22:29 < tcr> (Yeah, I could copy the text and paste into X, but formatting would be lost)
22:29 < tcr> s,X,any-application,
22:30 < daja77> if you'd use cups for printing you could change that ...
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22:32 < tcr> daja77: Nah, it's a windoz box
22:32 < wsnap> hi
22:32 < dennis> hi
22:32 < tcr> Nevermind, it's not that important anyway
22:33 < wsnap> u here Mike1 ?
22:33 < daja77> windows is never importnt ...
22:33 < Mike1> wsnap: always :)
22:33 < rolla> re
22:33 < wsnap> idle 0 secondsidle 0 seconds
22:33 < wsnap> nice to c u again
22:33 < rxr> I commited some rockplug modifications ...
22:33 < wsnap> how are u Miguel ?
22:34 < Mike1> wsnap: fine and you ? nice you are back
22:34 < Mike1> query me wsnap
22:34 * rolla pokes Mike1 with a stick
22:34 < daja77> hi rolla
22:34 < rolla> :)
22:34 < tcr> wsnap is demian?? in germany?!
22:35 < Mike1> rolla: hey!! hold that stick
22:35 < Mike1> tcr: don't let the host trick you
22:36 * daja77 gives rolla  ahulk doll for his son *vbeg*
22:36 < rolla> :) thanks
22:37 < daja77> rolla: https://www.thesun.co.uk//article/0,,2-2003310256,00.html
22:37 < wsnap> tcr.. physically in Costa Rica
22:37 < daja77> :)
22:38 < uninvit3d> niahahhaa...giant manhood ;-)
22:38 < uninvit3d> couldnt you get that on one of these rock linux banners:
22:38 < uninvit3d> I m using rocklinux, ergo i ve got this "giant manhood" ;-)
22:39 < daja77> hehe
22:39 < daja77> I mean _that's_ the incredible hulk ....
22:40 < daja77> or maybe that doll makers got too much mail
22:40 < uninvit3d> har har har
22:40 < uninvit3d> i think thats the part which i d call aggresive marketing ;-)
22:41 < rxr> Unknown host www.penguinppc.org
22:41 < rxr> ^ - do you get this , too ?
22:41 < Mike1> 64 bytes from 216.218.240.223: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=153.9 ms
22:41 < Mike1> rxr: nope.
22:42 < tcr> rxr: works for me
22:42 < uninvit3d> PING penguinppc.org (216.218.240.223): 56 data bytes
22:42 < uninvit3d> 64 bytes from 216.218.240.223: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=192.7 ms
22:42 < daja77> works for me too
22:42 < Mike1> rxr: sorry man, looks likeu got a problem .
22:44 < uninvit3d> rxr> can you ping ip scsflly ?
22:44 < rxr> now it works ... - seems my providers nameserver sometimes does not work correctly ...
22:45 < uninvit3d> rxr> which provider ?
22:45 < tcr> Yeah I often suffer from that too
22:46 < rxr> uninvit3d: qsc
22:46 < rxr> or maybe the konqueror cached s.th. - I have not tried ping immediately ...
22:47 < uninvit3d> qsc ?
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22:48 < jsaw> re
22:49 < daja77> hi jsaw
22:49 < Mike1> jsaw: welcome back.
22:49 < jsaw> hi daja77, hi Mike1
22:50 < dennis> hi jsaw
22:50 < uninvit3d> okay. good nite every1
22:50 < uninvit3d> gonna take some sleep
22:50 * uninvit3d is away: Anghar Drakkhen , Anghar Khang !
22:50 < rxr> hi jsaw
22:50 < jsaw> *grin* hi .*
22:51 < rxr> jsaw: I did some rockplug commits ...
22:51 < rxr> uninvit3d: q-dsl from qsc ...
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22:52 < jsaw> rxr: I saw it. I'm just finishing some packages I need to regain full productivity (on my new and shiny ROCK powered PC@home). Then I'll put my eyes on rockplug solely.
22:53 < jsaw> rxr: I'd wish we had more feedback, though.
22:53 < daja77> jsaw: hehe nbut keep your eyes open *fg*
22:53 < daja77> I'll give you feedback after I can upgrade my box here
22:54 < jsaw> daja77: I'm not talking 'bout you. I know you do your best to break it... hehe
22:54 < daja77> hehe indeed, I can break rock all the tiome ...
22:54 < rxr> jsaw: I guess that it did not worked for daja (and others) is:
22:54 < rxr> a) it was not enabled by default (/etc/conf/hardware did not exist)
22:55 < rxr> b) it was run before / was writeable - so it failed due to no lock and log files could be created
22:55 < rxr> daja77: hm?
22:56 < wsnap> re
22:56 < daja77> rxr:  beleive me  you don't wanna know all of this :)
22:57 < rxr> daja77: all of this is fixed now anyway ...
22:57 < daja77> hehe
22:58 < daja77> well I deleted my fscked up build cos I don't wanna waste more time with it, hope I can fix that rtai issue soon
22:59 * daja77 goes to bed now, cu
22:59 < Mike1> n8 daja77
22:59 < jsaw> n8 daja77
22:59 < dennis> gn8
23:00 * daja77 can't get this picture of that girl with the hulk doll out of his head ...
23:00 < dennis> ;)
23:01 < wsnap> i will
23:01 < wsnap> i will see
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23:12 < rxr> hi ripclaw
23:12 < wsnap> well guys
23:12 < wsnap> cu
23:12 < wsnap> have fun
23:12 < Mike1> hi ripclaw
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23:39 < esden> hi all
23:39 < esden> ripclaw's ghost .. nice ;-)
23:45 < rxr> you all have already voted for ROCK Linux at the linux journal award ?
23:45 < Mike1> url please
23:47 < rxr> I posted on the mailing list
23:47 < rxr> does nobody read it ?
23:47 < rxr> 07/04   3k To:<rock-linux@roc [rock-linux] ROCK Linux voting at LinuxJournal
23:47 < Mike1> hehe
23:47 < Mike1> could you paste the url to me .. please.
23:49 < rxr> https://www.linuxjournal.com/rc2003/
23:51 < Mike1> thx.
23:55 < esden> rxr: I have voted
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23:55 < rxr> ;-)
23:55 < rxr> just in this moment, or days ago ?
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23:55 < esden> rxr: days ago
23:55 < esden> the day you posted it
23:56 < rxr> ah - nice
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