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--- Log opened Tue Jul 08 00:00:48 2003 --- Day changed Tue Jul 08 2003 00:04 < Mike1> rxr: voted. 00:04 * -> esden making food 00:05 < rxr> Mike1: nice 00:05 * rxr blacklisting all to get a building linux25 package (at lest on x86 ...) 00:05 < rxr> a/all/all breaking/ 00:06 < Mike1> i had forgot that i owned mike account at linuxjournal.. 00:06 < Mike1> don't use it that oftenly 00:08 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909B0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:15 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A1A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:29 < rxr> hi kasc 01:08 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9EB7C01.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 01:10 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:19 < mnemoc> re 01:19 < esden> hi mnemoc 01:19 < Mike1> hi mnemoc 01:20 < Mike1> hi esden 01:20 < mnemoc> hi esden, Mike1 01:20 < esden> hi Mike1 ... god bless you 01:20 < Mike1> God bless you too esden 01:21 < mnemoc> nobody bless mnemoc 01:21 < Mike1> God bless you _ALOT_ mnemoc 01:22 < mnemoc> :-) 01:26 < esden> god bless you too mnemoc 01:29 < Mike1> ok n8 all. 01:30 < esden> n8 ? ... you go to bed ... so early? 01:30 < esden> good night Mike1 01:30 < Mike1> esden: home 01:30 < Mike1> esden: got some coding and rocking to do 01:31 < esden> ahh ok ... so I whish you a good way home ... and productivity 01:32 < Mike1> thx :) 01:34 < mnemoc> hehe 01:37 -!- Badamone [~chatzilla@dsl092-160-037.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:39 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:59 * rxr manually exchanging the primary root ROCK system with the latest -beta5 build from that box (now glibc-2.3 based instead of the former glibc-2.2 one ...) 02:01 < jsaw> o O 02:03 < rxr> why oO ? 02:04 < jsaw> .oO(2.2 and 2.3 do really cooperate well) I'm curious if all goes well. 02:04 < jsaw> s/do/do not/ 02:05 < rxr> I removed the wohle primary / partition and tar -> untar the wohle build/$id/root to it ... 02:05 < rxr> not old binaries lingering around ... 02:06 < jsaw> ah ok. 02:06 < rxr> and the build was quite errorless and I already worked chroot because cd-burning "appeared" to be more stable (I guess due to the 64bit kernel 32bit user-space fluff ...)# 02:08 < jsaw> ...and maybe priority handling. 02:08 < rxr> priority handling of tasks ? 02:11 < jsaw> yep. I'm not really sure anymore, but I think there were some changes how stuff is/canbe passed down to the kernel. Or was that a different construction site? 02:12 < jsaw> cd-burning heavily relies on be correctly scheduled... 02:15 < rxr> so after massice ppc work some sparc patches might find it's way into svn ... 02:17 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@212.21.74.154] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 02:18 < mnemoc> rxr? 02:18 < rxr> mnemoc: yes 02:18 < mnemoc> any reason to not log parse-config activity? 02:19 < rxr> mnemoc: more details please ... 02:19 < mnemoc> lvs's parse-config is doing something wrong 02:19 < mnemoc> -> Including IP Virtual Server (lvs) patch... 02:19 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 14: package/./mnemoc/rsbac/parse-config: No such file or directory 02:19 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 15: package/./mnemoc/vquota/parse-config: No such file or directory 02:20 < mnemoc> but in R.src/ERROR-LOG there is no log about 02:20 < mnemoc> with xtrace enabled 02:20 < rxr> I guess a "set -x" for debugging reasons in the file should help ... 02:20 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - mom 02:20 < esden> ohh ... this film is sooo beautifull ... *sigh* 02:21 < mnemoc> build_this_package >> .log, but not the previous stuff 02:23 < mnemoc> iirc this is 'new'.. i'm almost sure a copule of month ago parse-config output was there 02:24 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm just committing a hack to enable xtrace for the parse-config ... 02:24 < rxr> please remind me to investigate this furture later .. 02:24 * jsaw leaves the lab now. 02:24 < jsaw> cu l8r 02:24 < rxr> cu jsaw 02:24 < rxr> mnemoc: Committed revision 728. 02:24 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:24 < mnemoc> :) 02:26 < mnemoc> thanks 02:26 < rxr> mnemoc: does it work ? 02:26 < mnemoc> updating devel tree right now 02:27 < mnemoc> i did update the reference one to see what you have done ;) 02:28 < mnemoc> ugly output to stdout 02:31 < mnemoc> ufff... nothing new in .out file, but lot of stuff in stdout 02:31 < rxr> ah - mom 02:33 < rxr> this is why the parse-config stuff can not be logged bia xtrace, it is not yet in the per package part ... 02:35 < mnemoc> doh :( 02:36 < rxr> for now you could set -x in your parse-config file and set +x at the end to get debug stuff to stdout - later we need to think how to change this in Build-Pkg ... 02:36 < mnemoc> nice idea :) 02:39 < mnemoc> i found the bug :) i can't revert two cd calls with one cd ~- :) 02:39 < esden> does anyone of you have sting mp3's lying around? 02:40 < esden> excuse that off topic question 02:40 < mnemoc> no sting here 02:40 < esden> mnemoc: thanks anyway for the answer ;-) 02:41 -!- Badamone [~chatzilla@dsl092-160-037.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:03 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M316P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:03 < n00kie> moin 03:04 < mnemoc> moin n00kie 03:04 < n00kie> Hola mnemoc :) 03:04 < n00kie> How are you? 03:05 < esden> hi n00kie 03:06 < mnemoc> really stressed :-\ ... i have to start and finish 3 reports for tomorrow :( (Univ.) and PSP's 8a-10a for friday 03:06 < mnemoc> but rocking again :) 03:07 < n00kie> Hi esden 03:07 < n00kie> Oh 03:07 < n00kie> Have fun :-) 03:10 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E28A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:10 < jsaw> re 03:10 < n00kie> wb jsaw 03:12 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 03:12 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:13 < jsaw> hi n00kie, hope you partied a lot (...school report)! 03:13 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 03:14 < n00kie> well, more or less :) 03:18 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:26 < rxr> linux25 should now build on x86 ... 03:26 < rxr> cu later 03:26 < mnemoc> did you leave any module to build? 03:46 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:03 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M288P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:18 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M316P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:01 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E28A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 05:14 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:05 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M288P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:10 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M288P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:12 < n00kie> I really need a new keyboar 06:12 < n00kie> d 06:13 < mnemoc> n00kie: did you sleep? 06:15 < n00kie> nope 06:15 < n00kie> I watched some tv 06:21 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:27 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:37 < Pyro> hi 06:37 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030331]") 06:40 < n00kie> Hola Pyro :) 06:40 < n00kie> Como estas? :) 06:40 < Pyro> hola n00kie muy bien y tu? 06:41 < n00kie> muy bien, gracias :) 06:41 < Pyro> good to hear 06:41 < Pyro> what are u doing up this time Daniel? 06:42 < n00kie> WEll 06:42 < n00kie> Getting tired and coding a bit 06:42 < n00kie> What are you doing, Miguel? :) 06:42 < Pyro> coding, rocking, listening to music and doing damn paperwork 06:43 < n00kie> hehe 06:43 < Pyro> i hate paperwork 06:43 < n00kie> Define "Paperwork" 06:43 < Pyro> paperwork = timesheets so i get payed 06:44 < n00kie> Ah, alright 06:44 < Pyro> n00kie: someday, when u start doing contracts, u will see the pain it is :) 06:45 < n00kie> I hope, it'll just be short :) 06:45 < n00kie> I need coffee 06:45 < Pyro> go get it, but come back soon :) 06:46 < n00kie> Yea 06:46 < Pyro> hurry! :P 06:46 < n00kie> the coffeemachine is beside me :P 06:46 < Pyro> ah even better 06:47 < n00kie> You should do so too :) 06:47 < Pyro> n00kie: so how about u ? how have all things been doing for u ? 06:47 < Pyro> i need no coffee at this time 06:47 < n00kie> ah, hehe 06:47 < Pyro> i'm currently at my most productive hours of the day 06:47 < n00kie> Well, things go fine 06:47 < n00kie> Now I have 9 weeks holliday 06:48 < Pyro> 9 weeks!?!? u lucky bastard 06:48 < n00kie> hehe :) 06:48 < n00kie> austrian school system 06:49 < Pyro> grrr 06:49 < Pyro> techworx is presenting intouch at linuxworld, first day 06:49 < Pyro> if things go well, i will be moving to sg quite soon 06:49 < n00kie> cool :) 06:49 < n00kie> But 06:49 < n00kie> I am a little afraid of sg 06:50 < Pyro> and if i move to sg, it will be a fact that i will go by Osterich 06:50 < Pyro> why are u affraid of it? 06:50 < n00kie> Of SARS 06:51 < n00kie> From what country is the IP 66.*.*.* ? 06:51 < Pyro> n00kie: hehe US.. 06:51 < n00kie> ah 06:51 < n00kie> Thanks :) 06:51 < Pyro> n00kie: the risk for sars is minimal now 06:52 < Pyro> n00kie: hehe how come u realized it was crican? 06:52 < n00kie> crican ? 06:52 < Pyro> costa rican..damn n00kie made me write the wole word :) 06:53 < Pyro> whole* 06:53 < n00kie> I don't understand you :) 06:53 < n00kie> ahh 06:53 < n00kie> coffee finished 06:53 < n00kie> :) 06:53 < Pyro> hehe 06:54 < Pyro> ok n00kiebe back in a few minutes 06:54 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 07:12 < blindcoder> moin 07:13 < mnemoc> moin bc 07:14 < n00kie> Hi blindy 07:15 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:17 < n00kie> gtg to bed :-) 07:17 -!- n00kie is now known as [n00kie] 08:04 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:20 -!- mart193 [~joss@dhcp-17-170.cable.infonet.ee] has joined #rocklinux 08:21 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:23 -!- mart193 [~joss@dhcp-17-170.cable.infonet.ee] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:17 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 < rxr> re 10:42 < blindcoder> moin rxr 10:42 < rxr> moin 10:50 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:56 -!- [n00kie] is now known as n00kie 10:58 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:18 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 11:18 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:41 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:44 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M288P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:49 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-40-186.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M275P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:57 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:34 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:34 < jsaw> re 12:34 < jsaw> hi all. 12:34 * blindcoder back 13:20 < esden> hi all 13:20 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 < esden> re ripclaw's ghost 13:20 < blindcoder> hi esdi 13:20 * blindcoder gives esden a hug 13:20 < esden> hi blindy 13:20 < esden> *rehug* 13:20 < esden> blindcoder: you seem to be in a good mood ;-) 13:21 < esden> am I right? 13:21 < esden> that is _very_ good 13:21 < blindcoder> well... part-part... but I'm currently engaged in a hot E-Mail-Exchange with your IO 13:21 < blindcoder> :D 13:21 < esden> aha 13:22 < blindcoder> but overall could be better... could be worse 13:22 < esden> but it is better then worse ... that is good ;-) 13:23 < blindcoder> yeah... 13:23 < blindcoder> remember that decision about moving a while ago? 13:25 < blindcoder> hrm... 13:25 < blindcoder> apparently not 13:26 < esden> nope ... moving? 13:27 < esden> moving where? 13:27 < esden> o_O 13:27 < esden> huh? 13:27 < esden> who moving? 13:31 * blindcoder moving 13:32 < blindcoder> to be exact: I won't be working at Siemens anymore in October 13:34 < esden> but where? 13:34 < esden> I did not know anything about that o_O 13:35 < esden> humm ... strange 13:35 < esden> audi? 13:49 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.154] has joined #rocklinux 13:51 < netrunne1> esden: u@bs 13:51 < netrunne1> ? 13:51 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 13:52 < esden> netrunner: no 14:05 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:50 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M275P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:08 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:21 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FCF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p5080188F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958FCF8.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:24 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:44 -!- daja77 [[QzlIqVSLE@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:01 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:25 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:52 < Mike1> moin all 16:57 < Ge0rG> cool, xbox and rock will be neighbours at LT 16:57 < Mike1> :) 17:01 * blindcoder back 17:02 < blindcoder> hi all 17:03 < Mike1> hi blindy 17:03 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 ! 17:15 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-170-163.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 < rene> re 17:15 -!- rene is now known as rxr 17:15 < blindcoder> re rene 17:15 < rxr> damn 17:15 < rxr> my mainboard and powersuply of the server went up in smoke this morning ... 17:16 < blindcoder> urgs 17:16 < blindcoder> that the reason why svn chokes? 17:16 < rxr> jups 17:16 < rxr> server is replaced now ... 17:17 < blindcoder> you seem to attract hardware-malfunction :/ 17:17 < rxr> blindcoder: try now 17:17 < rxr> jups - but only in the last weeks - I never had such fsck the last years ... 17:17 < blindcoder> works again ^^ 17:18 < blindcoder> hmm... maybe it all stacked up :) 17:18 < rxr> new motherboad, CPU and power-suply .... 17:19 < blindcoder> rxr: just a question: is there an easier way planned to manipulate packages (e.g kernel) rom within other packages (eeg Linux Progress Patch) than using parse-config for 2.1? 17:20 -!- Freak [freak@p508B147B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:22 < Mike1> hi rxr 17:23 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:23 < Mike1> hi ripclaw 17:24 < mnemoc> hi Mike1, rxr, bc 17:24 < Mike1> mnemoc: :) 17:24 < mnemoc> blindcoder: can you post to the list what do found so bad in using parse-config? 17:24 < mnemoc> i gotta go right now... :-\ 17:24 -!- Freak [freak@p508B370B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:24 < mnemoc> cu all 17:25 < Mike1> cu mnemoc 17:25 < blindcoder> mnemoc: will do 17:25 < Mike1> Freaky! 17:26 < blindcoder> mnemoc: but I'll create a substitute before I do so, already have something in mind 17:26 < rxr> blindcoder: if we need this we can design it ... 17:27 < blindcoder> rxr: well. it would be quite handy to not have to use parse-config... it's quite expensive... 17:28 < blindcoder> doing something like that: 17:28 < blindcoder> if pkgcheck lpp X ; then 17:28 < blindcoder> if [ "${pkg:0:7}" == "linux24" ] ; then 17:28 < blindcoder> if [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_SYSVINIT_INITSTYLE" == "sysv_lpp" ] ; then 17:28 < blindcoder> in each and every package build isn't quite... optimal. 17:29 < rxr> jups 17:30 < rxr> maybe s.th. special in linux24 like postsysfiles in sysfiles ... 17:30 < blindcoder> I already have something in mind for that. I just want to implement it before advertising vaporware 17:30 < blindcoder> my idea is more generic. I'll write it down in words (not code) and have it sent over to you later today or early tomorrew. 17:30 < blindcoder> Depends how sleepy I am after training today. 17:31 < blindcoder> that reminds me... FUCK! 17:31 < blindcoder> training started 2 minutes ago! 17:32 < blindcoder> gtg, bye 17:32 < rxr> hehe cu blindcoder 17:40 < rxr> https://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/hardware-hacking/gallery.html 17:40 < rxr> the buttom gallery three is the just blown up mainboard ... 17:44 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9EB73E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < dennis> hi 17:45 < Mike1> hallo dennis 17:53 -!- daja77 [[ONUfaka65@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 < daja77> hi 17:53 < Mike1> hi daja77 17:57 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:58 < daja77> hi Mike1 18:03 < Ge0rG> hi daja77... from the LT plan it seems we are neighbours ;) 18:04 < daja77> yepp I saw this, nice, isn't itz? 18:04 < daja77> so we can run rocklinux on a xbox :)) 18:04 < Ge0rG> pretty cool 18:04 < Ge0rG> hehehe 18:04 < Ge0rG> I'll take mine along... do you have 220V in your car? ;) 18:05 < daja77> no 18:06 < Ge0rG> I hope my car adapter will not die because of the higher power needs of my new notebook... 18:06 < daja77> we'll see 18:13 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB588.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 < tcr> moin all 18:14 < dennis> hi tcr 18:41 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 < cchamilt> how is rock linux better than sex? 18:43 < Ge0rG> it never has headache ;) 18:43 < dennis> lol 18:44 < cchamilt> i think youve been doing it wrong 18:44 < cchamilt> either rock or sex... 18:44 < cchamilt> hi, btw 18:47 < tcr> hey cchamilt 18:47 < cchamilt> hi tcr 18:49 < tcr> how's thing? Already decided what you're gonna do? 18:50 < cchamilt> on which subject? 18:50 < tcr> Job, I think. 18:50 < cchamilt> oh yeah 18:51 < cchamilt> I am staying for now i guess, there were apologies promises of compromises and changes 18:51 < cchamilt> there seems to be more than just me upset 18:51 < cchamilt> plus i seem to be important 18:52 < cchamilt> hopefully important enough to have it shown on paper real soon... 18:52 < cchamilt> more people may come with me if things dont change it appears 18:53 < cchamilt> linuxworld is turning out ok, so it may be in my interest to be 'helpful' if commiting only as far as they are 18:53 < cchamilt> no new work other than contracted till i see paper though 18:53 < tcr> I don't know, but bussines seems to be scarier and scarier each time I hear about it 18:54 < cchamilt> hell is other people 18:54 < cchamilt> steeling your ideas... 18:54 < cchamilt> ee ea 18:55 < cchamilt> anyway, exposure is good. 18:56 < tcr> Hmm, you encountered that where you're about getting contracted? 18:56 < cchamilt> being seen and talking to other vendors is good 18:56 < cchamilt> there seems to be some interesting ownership schemes 18:57 < tcr> Imho that does need a closer definition ;) 18:58 < cchamilt> i cant speak 'publically' on it, needless to say there may be some good coming from it all 19:01 < tcr> Well, I'll block my natural curiosity then ;) 19:02 < Mike1> tcr = curiosity 19:02 < Mike1> :) 19:02 < tcr> However, I strongly doubt that such an environment is favorable for productivity 19:04 < cchamilt> money=productivity 19:04 < tcr> Mike1: Well, depends on the subject :P For instance, I'm pretty much _not_ curious how you cut your toenail 19:04 < tcr> cchamilt: By far not 19:04 < Mike1> tcr: hehe 19:06 < tcr> cchamilt: Money is enstrangement of oneself number 1 19:06 < cchamilt> buys porsche 19:07 < tcr> cchamilt: and only for what you're really want to do (based on your own desires, feelings etc), you can spend your full energy and endeavour into 19:07 < cchamilt> getting porsche is on my todo list... 19:08 < tcr> That has rather nothing to do with the fact that you're urgent to do work 19:08 < tcr> urged 19:09 < cchamilt> promises of porsches dance in my head 19:09 < Mike1> hehe 19:09 < tcr> cchamilt: Are you saying that you can't concentrate on work? If your employer hears that,... 19:09 < Mike1> tcr: if you stare at cchamilt's eyes, you will see how a porsch is figured on them 19:10 < cchamilt> do this and life gets better translates to do this and porshce appears 19:11 < cchamilt> i want to see a product, but that will happen even without company 19:11 < cchamilt> of course company deadlines push me for the short term 19:12 < tcr> And there's the flaw: You do things in favor of the result -money-, not in favor of the resulting product 19:13 < tcr> That ain't a flaw of you, but the flaw of our current society that's driven by a monetary medium 19:13 < cchamilt> i'll get rich then i'll get wise... 19:14 < tcr> ;) Yeah, I wish you the best of luck that you won't spending all time in the first step ;) 19:16 < tcr> And anyway the wisest people were absolutely poor, methinks 19:16 < cchamilt> so, since you are above money - do you want to work on company projects for free... 19:16 < cchamilt> i have the power to hire new employees capped at $0 salaries. 19:16 < cchamilt> its tax free. 19:17 < cchamilt> silence speaks volumes.... 19:17 < tcr> I _want_ to work for none 19:18 < tcr> Though that isn't equal to _won't_ 19:18 < tcr> ehm to will 19:18 < cchamilt> lottery or ipo 19:19 < cchamilt> which is more likely... 19:19 < tcr> First one of course 19:19 < cchamilt> heh 19:20 * netrunner just found an evil trick to merge multiple images as seperate pages into an ps 19:23 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:24 < dennis> hi ripclaw 19:28 < cchamilt> must be ghost of ripclaw... 19:29 < Mike1> yes the ghost have been showing up every now and then 19:29 < cchamilt> he just arent cool enough to be talked to 19:29 < cchamilt> we 19:29 < cchamilt> or maybe he 19:29 < cchamilt> :) 19:31 < tcr> He's communicating in a supernatural way 19:39 * blindcoder back 19:39 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:40 < cchamilt> hi 19:40 < blindcoder> hi chris 19:41 < Mike1> blindy! 19:41 < blindcoder> mikey! 19:42 < blindcoder> phew, I feel like falling asleep on the spot 19:43 < Mike1> blindcoder: readquery 19:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:07 < esden> hi all 20:07 < esden> re blindcoder 20:07 < esden> how was your training? 20:07 < esden> I think I go to bed ... I am falling from my feet 20:07 < esden> good night everyone 20:08 < daja77> n8 esden 20:08 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:08 < blindcoder> well... that was quick @esden 20:11 < n00kie> Freak: Ping =) 20:12 < Freak> n00kie? 20:12 < n00kie> Sorry 20:12 < n00kie> typo 20:12 < Freak> :( 20:12 < Freak> AND I THOUGHT AT LEAST SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO TALK TO ME 20:12 < Mike1> Freak: how are you ? 20:12 < Freak> *runsawaycrying 20:12 < tcr> You aren't worth it 20:13 < Mike1> Freak: its nice to have you around? how is you powerbook doing? 20:13 < Freak> /nick _NULL 20:13 < Freak> ;) 20:13 * tcr laughs 20:13 < Freak> Mike1: you made my day :) 20:13 < Mike1> Freak: my pleasure :) 20:13 < tcr> Mike1 is so friendly to inferior animals ;))) 20:14 * Freak is just getting the powerbook and everything ready for LinuxTag tomorrow 20:14 < Mike1> of course i am, tcrits also quite great you are here 20:14 < Mike1> Freak: cool!, will you rock it? 20:14 < Freak> nope 20:14 < Freak> im at the *debian* booth. 20:15 < Mike1> Freak: so rock it, you still can be at the debian booth :) 20:15 < Freak> we're not stoned!!!+ 20:15 < Freak> heh 20:15 < daja77> telling everybody how crappy debian is *ggg* 20:15 < Mike1> Freak: sure you are dpkged 20:15 * tcr pins a small paper on freak's back on which "LUSER" stands 20:15 < Freak> =) 20:15 < n00kie> Freak: Do you have too much money? ;) 20:15 < Mike1> n00kie: freak is rich 20:16 * n00kie not 20:16 < Freak> right. 20:16 < n00kie> I need that money 20:16 < Mike1> :) 20:16 < n00kie> To get something to eat 20:16 < n00kie> I'm a very poor boy 20:16 < Freak> its all MINE hahahahahaha! 20:16 < tcr> Freak: Ok, I'll stop bitching you. It's not the same with you as it's been with owl ;)) 20:16 < n00kie> I don't have something to life in 20:16 < n00kie> I life under the bridge 20:16 < n00kie> With my family 20:16 < n00kie> We had to eat our sister 20:16 < n00kie> my sister 20:16 < Freak> tcr: you dirty fuckhead I'm going to kill you.. nah wait I'll rather kill myself! 20:16 < n00kie> because we were so hungry 20:16 < Mike1> tcr: you and freak have owl in common, you both like pissing her off you shopuld amke team 20:17 < Freak> tcr: like that? 20:17 < tcr> Freak: Hmm, well a bit more whiny, but you're about getting it along 20:17 < Mike1> n00kie: so you prostitue youreself to get dsl? 20:17 < Mike1> :) 20:17 < Freak> n00kie: should have sold her - thats how I made my monay ;) 20:18 < Freak> tcr ;) 20:18 < n00kie> nah Mike1 20:18 < daja77> let's sell Freaky's cat 20:18 < n00kie> I'm gonna sold Freak 20:18 < Freak> oh yea 20:18 < Freak> my boxed' cat =) 20:19 < n00kie> Freak's dead cat 20:19 < Freak> nah that was in another chan... 20:19 < Freak> n00kie: you dont know wether its dead or not :) 20:19 < Freak> whether? 20:19 < Freak> dang how's that spellt? 20:19 < daja77> haha schrödinger ... 20:19 < Mike1> Freak: wasn't ur cat the one at Harry Potter's ? 20:19 < Freak> daja77: ACK! 20:19 < Freak> Mike1: theres a cat in harry potter? 20:20 < Freak> what is harry potter? 20:20 < dennis> bill gates with a baseballbat under his ass 20:20 < Freak> lol 20:20 < daja77> lol 20:21 < Mike1> Freak: if you manage to sell ur cat, could you ask the customer if he is interested in a grep or an apt-get ? 20:22 < Freak> huh? =) 20:25 < blindcoder> *lol* 20:27 < Mike1> :) 20:27 < blindcoder> ah, watermelon is something fine :) 20:36 < Freak> ah 20:36 < Freak> right 20:36 < Freak> that reminds me: i have one in the fridge 20:37 < blindcoder> so go and get it 20:37 < blindcoder> (and gimme a good part of it :D) 20:37 < daja77> yeah getit for me! 20:42 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802544.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:54 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802A03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:03 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009055.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 < dreamind> hi 21:05 < dennis> hi 21:25 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 < dennis> ...the ghost is back :P 21:37 < daja77> I spoke to him yesterday ... 21:38 -!- lmay [~lmay@ip183056.mhh1.uni-hannover.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:40 < tcr> moin dreamind, lmay 21:41 < lmay> hi 21:41 < lmay> when will rock linux 2.0 be released? 21:41 < daja77> when it is ready 21:42 < lmay> :-) 21:42 < tcr> daja77: So when will it be ready? :P 21:42 < lmay> I'm sorry I have to admid I couldn't stand it any more and use debian at the moment 21:43 < daja77> I know that feeling 21:43 < dreamind> Hi tcr =) 21:43 < daja77> lmay: try beta6 if yoiu can't wait ;-) 21:44 < lmay> daja77: hmmmm no some months ago I started to hate the word "beta" :-) 21:44 < daja77> tcr: kiss me backside :P 21:44 < tcr> daja77: So turn around 21:45 < daja77> lmay: if it helps you I can relabel it toi stable if it is just that word 21:46 < lmay> well, I could name it XP 21:46 < lmay> but that would be bad ... 21:46 < daja77> you can be shot for that ... 21:47 < lmay> I know but the last experiences I had with rock linux were rather bad... 21:47 < tcr> The current sources can still easily fsck up the partition where you build on 21:47 < lmay> sorry for that :-) 21:48 < tcr> Hm, sorry that's wrong. the damage has been restricted 21:48 < daja77> tcr: huh? 21:50 < tcr> Sorry, I've been inaccurate 21:50 < tcr> There's still a bug, but it's not that critical anymore 21:51 < tcr> daja77: don't worry, it's all reported. rene even promised to put it on his todo 21:52 * tcr taking a shower 21:52 < daja77> have fun 21:53 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:04 -!- lmay [~lmay@ip183056.mhh1.uni-hannover.de] has quit ("[BX] Become a BitchX Certified Systems Engineer today! Apply within!") 22:07 < dennis> is there already a german translation for the rock guide? 22:10 < daja77> no, and there is no gain in translating it, cos it is outdated 22:12 < dennis> is there a need for a translation? 22:12 < daja77> not for that guide, bo, but for other parts perhaps 22:12 < dennis> e.g.? 22:12 < rxr> daja77: I plan to start a ROCK Linux handbook soon ... 22:12 < daja77> hacking-howto 22:13 < daja77> ah wb rxr 22:13 < daja77> :) 22:13 < rxr> daja77: you read my mail? took a look on the photo ? 22:13 < daja77> no ... 22:13 < n00kie> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2729209921 22:13 < daja77> btw https://op-co.de/s55/cam/eh2003_linuxrechner.jpg 22:13 < dennis> hmm, let's see, if i find enough time, maybe i will do my part to rock :D 22:14 < daja77> dennis: that would be nice 22:15 < dennis> i'm not very good at programming so i could do this little part ;) 22:15 < daja77> 71 new mails on the list, wtf 22:15 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit ("Lost terminal") 22:21 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9EB73E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 22:21 * rxr just setting up nice line diagrams for the regtester ... 22:22 * daja77 packing btw :-) 22:22 < daja77> hope there is soneone there tomorrow besides me 22:22 < rxr> I wish I could be there, too :-( 22:22 < daja77> I know 22:23 * daja77 looking forward meeting rxr on saturday :-) 22:23 < rxr> please give away my official -beta6 release for x86 and ppc ... 22:23 < rxr> or yout build, too ... 22:23 < daja77> if I can download them there sur 22:23 * daja77 bought 100cds today 22:23 < n00kie> Why are you packing, daja77 ? 22:24 < daja77> not much but can't spend more atm 22:24 < daja77> n00kie: Linuxtag :) 22:24 < n00kie> ah, alright 22:26 < rxr> daja77: nice! 22:27 < Mike1> hi rxr 22:27 < daja77> yeah but 100 means 33 people who gets the chance of testing rock 22:27 < daja77> guess I'll only give them to really interested people 22:36 < rxr> daja77: make sure you get some EUR per CD so you can buy new ones, soon .... - and other should bring some along, too ... 22:36 < Mike1> 5 EU? 22:36 < Mike1> :) 22:37 < daja77> 3FRZ should be einough for 3cds 22:40 < tcr> rxr: Did you write a mail about those diagrams? 22:46 < rxr> nope - just hacking 22:48 < daja77> rxr: nice picture :-) 22:49 < rxr> tcr: online - could you take a look ? 22:49 < rxr> daja77: the toasted ICs ? 22:49 < daja77> yes 22:50 * daja77 hopes his server keeps up this week 22:51 < tcr> rxr: Looks good for the start -- how much can you generally adapt? 22:53 < tcr> Heh, as I'm picturing out what's doable with it, I really begin to be fond on it :) 22:53 < tcr> rxr: What's that green line before "#errors"? It seems to be everywhere constant.. 22:54 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M261P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:54 < rxr> tcr: the example in the legend ... 22:55 < rxr> tcr: the diagrams are generated with https://ploticus.sourceforge.net/ - I can add _much_ more - when we have more date to visulaize ... 22:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:57 < rxr> I'll add a reference build to the regression test - this will generate some nice "whole tree" values - not this "most just works" values for the cross test ... 22:58 < rxr> now the diagrams are a bit bigger ... 23:00 < tcr> rxr: which legend? 23:01 < tcr> can't locate one 23:01 < rxr> the top right corner ? 23:02 < tcr> Huh? 23:02 < tcr> What should there be? 23:03 < tcr> And especially on what page? 23:03 < rxr> the legend is "in the diagram" listen an overview of the curves (ok - just one now) 23:03 < rxr> but you asked about the line before # errors 23:05 < tcr> Sorry, I still don't get it (neither where the legend is nor your last sentences) 23:05 < tcr> Ah 23:05 < tcr> Omg 23:05 < tcr> Ok, got it.. finally 23:05 < rxr> ;-) 23:06 < rxr> maybe I should remove the legend as long as there is only one graph ... 23:06 < tcr> Ehm, I dunno but I find that really confusing. Isn't it possible to move that a bit more out of the diagram, and preferably slightly bordered? 23:08 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, I'll go to bad now. Best is if I reply to your mail tomorrow where I collect some points that could be improved, so that you have it stored in a not so ephemeral medium as IRC is 23:08 < tcr> Ok? 23:11 < tcr> I take no answer as no contradiction. So gn8 all 23:12 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB588.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 23:18 < rxr> re 23:19 < Mike1> welcome back rxr 23:24 < rxr> hi Mike1 23:26 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50892150.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:27 < n00kie_> gn8 23:27 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M261P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 23:28 < daja77> hi ripclaw 23:29 < daja77> at least I tried ... 23:30 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:30 < Mike1> n8 all 23:30 < daja77> n8 Mike1 23:30 < daja77> hi A-Tui 23:31 < A-Tui> hi daja77, hi Mike1 --- Log closed Wed Jul 09 00:00:06 2003