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--- Day changed Sat Jul 12 2003
00:00 < fake> and more wine.... *skeletton_of_the_last_unicorn_pronouncement*
00:04 < esden> greet to the clifford ;-)
00:04 * -> esden waves over ;-)
00:05 < esden> fake: what about the photos you made?
00:06 < fake> which photos?
00:06 < esden> you have a cam there ... I thought there were photos made with it ... 
00:07 < fake> esden: i don't have a cam supported by my operating system of choice
00:07 < fake> (yes(
00:07 < fake> (yet)
00:07 < esden> find someone who can fix it ... I think at linuxtag you will find someone apriopriate ;-)
00:08 -!- Awacs [~demian@pD95231BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:08 < Awacs> hi
00:08 < esden> hi
00:08 < fake> write a driver for the mpeg2-hardware-encoder ?
00:09 < fake> hi Awacs
00:09 < esden> humm ... that may be bit more difficult ... 
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00:10 < fake> see...
00:10 * blindcoder sleep
00:10 < fake> n8 blindcoder
00:10 < Mike1> n8 blindy
00:10 < Mike1> yo fake!
00:10 < Mike1> fake: got pics of LT yet?
00:11 < fake> Mike1: me? no
00:11 < esden> n8 blindcoder 
00:11 < fake> i never take photos
00:11 < Mike1> fake: oh :(
00:11 < Awacs> just to owl..
00:11 < esden> fake: let do it someone else
00:11 < Mike1> hello Awacs
00:11 < fake> esden: ripclaw has a cam with him and philip, a friend of clifford's
00:11 < esden> Awacs: sure demian ;-)
00:12 < esden> fake: so force them to upload the pics somewehre ;-)
00:12 < Awacs> btw.. where is owl.. i dunt see her since a long time ago...
00:12 < Mike1> Awacs: #anarchy
00:12 < esden> Awacs: I think she went to bed
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00:14 < christian> re
00:14 < fake> Awacs: she left shortly
00:14 < Mike1> welcome back christian
00:14 < christian> wb :)
00:14 < fake> re christian
00:15 < fake> it is most amusing
00:15 < fake> the challenge built binutils in stage 2 without complaining
00:15 < christian> everything works
00:15 < fake> i changed nothing in the build scripts
00:15 < christian> this is great
00:15 < fake> just selected minimal rock, mips, eb
00:15 < Mike1> christian: congratz
00:15 < Awacs> gonna leave..
00:15 < christian> ROCKLINUX RILZ
00:16 < christian> RULZ
00:16 < Awacs> good bye
00:16 < fake> bye Aard
00:16 < fake> aeh
00:16 < fake> bye Awacs
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00:23 * fake listening to america - the last unicorn
00:25 < tcr> Cool, there's "Die Wikinger" on ARD
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00:29 < owl> rehi
00:29 < Mike1> welcome back owl
00:29 < owl> thx
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00:36 < christian> hi kasc
00:37 < fake> *hicks*
00:38 < owl> some alk left?
00:39 < owl> (if yes... then please give me the bottle and a glas)
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01:07 < rammi> hi to all :)
01:09 < Mike1> hi.
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01:12 < Mike1> aszlig:
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01:32 < christian> goof night rocklinux!
01:32 < christian> night
01:32 < christian> its time for me to go to bead
01:33 < Mike1> n8 chris
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01:35 < Mike1> n8 all
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01:59 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/
01:59 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Wed Jul  2 21:53:27 2003]
01:59 (Users #rocklinux)
01:59 [ A-Tui ] [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ Mike1    ] [ owl  ] [ SMP  ] 
01:59 [ Aard  ] [ daja77    ] [ kasc ] [ mistik1  ] [ rolla] [ snyke] 
01:59 [ aszlig] [ esden     ] [ link_] [ netrunner] [ rxr  ] 
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01:59 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
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04:03 < mnemoc> hi
04:03 < mnemoc> happy LT
04:07 < rxr> re
04:08 < mnemoc> hi rxr
04:09 < mnemoc> how was the marriage?
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04:18 < rxr> mnemoc: really nice ;-)
04:19 * rxr currentl packing - and off to the railway station in some minutes ...
04:19 < rxr> cu
04:19 < mnemoc> LT?
04:19 < rxr> jups
04:19 < mnemoc> good luck
04:19 < mnemoc> write down anything you decide ;)
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05:11 < Pyro> re
05:15 < mnemoc> hi Pyro
05:15 < Pyro> Ale!
05:15 < Pyro> bien, por un momento pense que todos dormian
05:15 < Pyro> como estas?
05:18 < mnemoc> bien bien...
05:18 < mnemoc> estan en LinuxTag
05:18 < mnemoc> no precisamente durmiendo
05:19 < Pyro> sips, igual son las 5am
05:19 < Pyro> y tu que haces?
05:19 < mnemoc> terminando un trabajo, revizando mail y preparandome para ir a dormir
05:20 < Pyro> hehe
05:20 < Pyro> okis, yo estoy codeando asi que te veo luego, supongo manana
05:20 < Pyro> que descanses Ale
05:20 < mnemoc> tb... ;)
05:21 < Pyro> gratz
05:21 < Pyro> n8 all.
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08:34 < netrunner> moin
08:34 < esden> moin ;-)
08:34 * -> esden off to uni
08:34 < esden> cu there netrunner 
08:34 < esden> ;-)
08:34 < netrunner> esden: will they let us in that early?
08:35 < esden> donno ... if not I will sit outside and repeat some stuff 
08:35 < esden> cu for now
08:35 < netrunner> esden: I'll be there at 1000. just printed some old exams.
08:35 < netrunner> esden: cu there :)
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09:00 < JTBurn> hi :)
09:00 < JTBurn> is anybody here who can help me with WINE ???
09:07 < JTBurn> its ok i've solved the problem *g*
09:08 < JTBurn> but, how are you ? its a long time ago where we saw us :)
09:22 < blindcoder> moin
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09:39 < daja77> moin
09:42 < blindcoder> moin daja
09:51 < daja77> hi blindcoder, how are you
09:51 < blindcoder> fine, tahnks
09:51 < blindcoder> already had my good-morning-coffee :)
09:52 * daja77 lauhging his @$$ off while reading backlog
09:52 < daja77> btw christian was here, and said how cool rock is
09:52 < blindcoder> hm... I usually don't read the log
09:52 < daja77> not bad for a newbie
09:53 < daja77> I only wanted to read how Mike1 tried to help him
09:55 < blindcoder> hehe
09:55 < blindcoder> hope he did a good job
09:55 < daja77> yes he did
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09:56 < Robin_Root> Hi
09:56 < daja77> christian seemed to be very happy that he could kick rh with rock ;-)
09:56 < daja77> hi Robin_Root
09:56 < blindcoder> good :)
09:56 < blindcoder> hi Robin_Root
09:56 < daja77> Robin_Root: greetings from Linuxtag :)
09:58 < daja77> hmm maybe I should tell him, that the cds I gave him are not drock but generic ...
09:59 * daja77 waiting for the xbox hackers 
10:01 < blindcoder> yes, you should :)
10:03 < daja77> :)
10:11 < daja77> ahem aynone has access to the rock repo atm?
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10:13 < blindcoder> read...
10:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABDA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
10:23 < daja77> hi tcr
10:23 < daja77> tcr: thx for the happy user ;-)
10:24 < tcr> moin
10:24 < tcr> hm?
10:26 < tcr> "I can't remember" ;)
10:28 < daja77> christian, Mike1 was successful
10:28 < daja77> christian is now a happy rock user ;-)
10:28 < daja77> so you deserve a big :P
10:28 < daja77> :)
10:29 < tcr> Well, you seem to be misinformed. And I feel incomprehended.
10:31 < daja77> huh?
10:32 < tcr> Seemingly you're told that I should have said he wouldn't success otherwise. That's not the truth, absolutely not.
10:33 * daja77 read backlog :)
10:33 < tcr> I just said that in my opinion a live guidance will be better (in the sense of more informative, more intuitive etc)
10:33 < daja77> yeah
10:33 < daja77> but it was cooler that way in this case, less trouble for me
10:33 < tcr> And as christian at first told that it'd be any problem to take his computer to you
10:33 < daja77> :)
10:33 < tcr> brb
10:35 < tcr> as as he told me so, I believed that Mike1's effort is /more or less/ in vain
10:35 < tcr> or not that appropriate
10:36 < tcr> But later it exposed itself to be right
10:36 < tcr> since it actually was a problem to take the computer to you
10:37 < tcr> daja77: You're there for having trouble!
10:39 < daja77> hehe
10:41 < tcr> Wanna have a url to some interesting interview?
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10:42 < tcr> It's about future of disc capacities, latencies and bandwith
10:42 < tcr> But quite long, about 10pages
10:43 < tcr> http://www.acmqueue.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=43
10:45 < daja77> *gosh* if it goes on like this rene is here before clifford and staff :-(
10:57 < tcr> what d'ya mean?
11:07 < daja77> don't worry
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11:23 < fake> daja77: perfect timing, eh? *g*
11:23 < daja77> hehe
11:32 * tcr must laugh about a webserver that openly offers test.php which tell that the server runs under root and is a 1.3.19 apache
11:33 < daja77> hihi
11:33 < tcr> I feel tempted ;>
11:34 < tcr> but fortunately I have to do something
11:41 < owl> morning
11:41 < owl> *yawn*
11:43 < daja77> night owl *ggg*
11:44 < owl> daja77: hm???
11:44 < daja77> uhm ... hi :)
11:45 < owl> .oO( daja77 might should open his eyes to see that it's day... )
11:47 < daja77> I know ...
11:47 < fake> i am feeling a bit dizzy...
11:47 < daja77> hehe
11:47 < owl> daja77: that you should oopen your eyes or that it's day
11:48 * daja77 felling a bit like fake
11:48 < daja77> feeling
11:48 < owl> no coffee available at your place, daja77 , fake ?
11:48 < daja77> fake????!
11:49 < Aard> good morning...
11:49 < owl> hi Aard
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11:50 < daja77> hi Aard, where are you?
11:51 < fake> well, i already had coffe, but i am still buzzed
11:51 < Aard> daja77: at `my' room, just got up...
11:51 < owl> poor fake :-/
11:51 < tcr> fake: no wonder if I think of the alcohol you consumed last night
11:51 < owl> headache?
11:51 < fake> tcr: how would you know?
11:52 < Aard> daja77: I think I'll be at LT within one hour...
11:52 < daja77> okis
11:52 < fake> Aard: bring aspirin
11:52 < tcr> your small amount told us
11:52 < fake> my 'small amount' ?
11:53 < Aard> fake: I think I have one or two `thomapyrin' in my pocket
11:53 < tcr> Heh, yeah a terrible transfer of a german idiom into english ;)
11:53 < fake> Aaard: cool
11:53 < tcr> fake: it's left to you to find out the actual german expression :P
11:53 < fake> tcr: you mean you know by the little i said?
11:53 < Aard> fake: just don"t die during the next hour, I'll come and rescue you, then.. ;)
11:54 < Aard> -> breakfast
11:54 < owl> *lol*
11:54 < fake> my hero!
11:54 < tcr> fake: your small amount, "Deine Wenigkeit"
11:54 < fake> oh, my uselessnes
11:54 < daja77> tcr: what bad scool you have?!
11:55 < tcr> It was supposed to be a bad joke
11:55 < tcr> a pun to the amount of alcohol he drunk
11:55 < fake> i didn't even drin much...
11:56 < fake> just a bit of wine
11:56 < fake> it was 'free'... muahaha
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11:57 < owl> fake: the bottle was empty after "drinking a bit" or am i wrong?
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11:58 < owl> hi Ge0rG , JTBurn
11:58 < daja77> hey Ge0rG, come over guys!
12:02 < fake> oh i wished it would have been only one bottle ... ;)
12:02 < owl> oh goth... *gnarf* /me kicks fake :p
12:03 < Ge0rG> hiho
12:07 < Ge0rG> daja77: *lag*
12:09 < owl> <-- off.
12:09 < owl> bbl (about 16 o'clock)
12:10 < JTBurn> can anyone work with kylix in this chan ?
12:11 < tcr> Not yet. But I anticipate that I'll have to stick with it next year
12:13 < fake> daja77: i have the same problem with my wlan card that you have
12:13 < fake> daja77: if i take it out... boom.
12:13 * fake brb
12:13 < JTBurn> mh my problem is that when you installed it you must register, and the link for the register page is createt on a box with a shelscript but when i klick on this link my browser didnt open ...
12:13 < JTBurn> what can i do ?
12:13 < daja77> fuck linux 2.4.21
12:13 < daja77> :)
12:14 < JTBurn> mh i must go eating, when anybody knows what the solution is plz tell me *big thx* :)
12:21 < Ge0rG> daja77: we've got pretty much RL trafic here, and I'd like to go to a workshop in half an hour
12:27 < Aard> fake: I have some tpmapyrin, and I'll come soon
12:28 < fake> Aard: good
12:29 < fake> Ge0rG: ich kann ja uebernehmen... muahaha
12:29 < fake> Ge0rG: don't be surprised afterards *g*
12:30 < daja77> Ge0rG: ok
12:30 * daja77 notes fake is evil
12:30 < Ge0rG> fake: du hilfst daja, rock auf die xbox zu portieren? fein
12:31 < daja77> Ge0rG: sieht so aus, als hätt ich eh nich die ruhe hier :)
12:31 < Ge0rG> daja77: die hat irgendwie keiner
12:31 < daja77> yo
12:31 < fake> Ge0rG: gimme 7 hrs
12:32 < daja77> yep 7h should be enough
12:37 < JTBurn> mh lustig lustig :)
12:37 < Ge0rG> fake: you need an xbox? ;)
12:37 < daja77> Ge0rG: can I get one for free ;-)
12:39 < Ge0rG> daja77: I'll ask mist
12:39 < daja77> cool
12:43 < Ge0rG> daja77: we can't do this, because a developer is only really motivated when he has bought his box himsel :]
12:54 < daja77> Ge0rG: well the thing is I'm not gonna buy one, but maybe I can rent/let some for some time just to port rock
12:59 < fake> Ge0rG: bullshit. i am not less motivated in getting the challenge or cobalt to run, just because they were donations.
13:01 < fake> Ge0rG: btwut i would really like to just try and install rock on an XBox
13:01 < Ge0rG> fake: ok, this is just a lame excuse for us not having enogh money ;)
13:01 < fake> Ge0rG: *rofl*
13:01 < fake> you guys want coffee?
13:02 < JTBurn> me
13:02 < Ge0rG> fake: Ive got to go now to a workshop, in an hour Ill try to get you one
13:02 < JTBurn> *g*
13:02 < Ge0rG> *pingtimeout*
13:02 < JTBurn> i didn sleep last night
13:02 < JTBurn> :)
13:03 < Aard> re.
13:05 < fake> Ge0rG: thanks !
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13:33 < fake> sex and violence... *sing*
13:34 < daja77> hehe zum glück leise ...
13:46 < blindcoder> sex? violence? count me in! :)
13:47 < fake> the exploited - sex and violence
13:48 < blindcoder> hmm
13:49 < blindcoder> fake: can I give a kernel which was dd'ed to a floppy any paramters?
13:51 < fake> blindcoder: no
13:52 < fake> i had that problem with my mosix cluster bootdisk
13:53 < blindcoder> shit...
13:53 < blindcoder> but... oh well..
13:53 < blindcoder> the thing I've tried worked, and that's all I need t know :)
13:54 < blindcoder> (just loadaed the LPP kernel on my machine at home)
13:58 < blindcoder> brb, shutting down windows, starting knoppix
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14:06 * blindcoder back
14:32 < blindcoder> hehe, finallz found some real use for mz usb wrist watch
14:50 < fake> wee
14:51 < fake> guido promised to patch the newport fb console driver for the indy to support devfs...
14:51 < daja77> guido?
14:54 < fake> guido guenther, author of dvhtool (
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14:54 < fake> guido guenther, author of dvhtool
14:54 < daja77> ic
14:57 < daja77> wb Aard
14:59 < Aard> daja77: I didn't say re...
14:59 < daja77> hehe irl rules!
15:00 < daja77> how was the talk?
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15:01 < Aard> daja77: nice + funny :) you shoud have been there..
15:01 < daja77> yeah I know, that damn sucker who wanted the cds still wasn't here >_<
15:03 < blindcoder> harr, knpoppix home on USB Wristwatch :)
15:03 < daja77> *lol* sounds cool
15:03 * blindcoder now off to dance lessons
15:03 < blindcoder> baba
15:04 < daja77> have phun
15:13 * fake making coffee and coping with dvhtool automake -_-
15:17 < daja77> 2oh cool
15:22 < fake> the sun guy that donated the cobalt was happy to hear i got it to work
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15:45 < owl> rehi
15:45 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B326A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:45 < knoti> Hiho
15:45 < owl> hi knoti
15:46 < knoti> Wer hat eigentlich den Vortrag über openboot gehalten?
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15:46 < owl> hi sirio
15:46 < sirio> hi owl
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15:46 < owl> hi ribnitz
15:46 < sirio> well. now that i am here i should first get mysel some infos about rocklinux.
15:46 < ribnitz> heya.
15:46 < knoti> Aard: huhu?
15:47 * sirio goes off searching information
15:47 < ribnitz> I'd need some infos too. got a rocklinux cd lying around from last linuxtag
15:47 < knoti> Who did the presentation of openboot at the linuxtag?
15:47 < knoti> ribnitz: As far as I understood rocklinux is a bunch of scripts for creating a distribution
15:48 < ribnitz> knoti: linux-from-scratch, gentoo.. ..:)
15:48 < knoti> ribnitz: Not in that way, but you should really ask a rocklinux developer
15:49 < ribnitz> hey ppl. does it compile on sparc64?
15:49 < ribnitz> or alpha ?
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15:55 < fake> knoti: ripclaw
15:56 < fake> ribnitz; yes
15:56 < fake> ribnitz: and on ia64, and on x86_64, and on mips, and on parisc, and on ppc...
15:56 < fake> ribnitz: we are still working on ia32 support... haha.
15:57 < owl> .oO( fake is talking to ghosts )
15:57 < fake> duh.
15:57 < owl> hm?
15:57 < knoti> could somebody at the rocklinux table at the linuxtag ask ripclaw, if he is around, wether it is possible to boot from usb at an 2.2 ibook? And how to do it?
15:57 < fake> knoti: justa second
15:58 < daja77> nope it was not
15:58 < knoti> fuck
15:58 < fake> knoti: it can't
15:58 < knoti> thanks guys
16:19 < fake> np
16:19 < esden> hi all
16:20 < owl> hi esden *hug*
16:20 < fake> hi esden
16:20 < knoti> hi esden
16:21 < esden> hi owl, fake, knoti 
16:26 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-106-2-169.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux
16:26 < DeElsasser> hi all
16:26 < owl> hi DeElsasser
16:26 < DeElsasser> hi owl
16:27 < DeElsasser> what's new in Karlsruhe?
16:30 < DeElsasser> are they all sleeping?
16:30 < owl> yes *g*
16:31 < DeElsasser> long night?
16:31 < DeElsasser> by working of course,,,
16:32 < owl> *lol* dunno
16:32 < owl> <-- not in karlsruhe... but i guessed they're sleeping :p
16:34 < knoti> I don't think so :)
16:34 < DeElsasser> yesterday, I tested fake's cafe, not very exciting
16:37 < fake> DeElsasser: i have stomach problems ATM
16:37 < esden> I suppose that they are hard working on converting as many people to rock as possible ;-)
16:37 < esden> or having stomach problems ;-)
16:37 < owl> *har*
16:38 < esden> fake: you know that too much alcohol is not good for helth? ;-)
16:38 < DeElsasser> esden: he think is the cafe fault ;-)
16:39 < Aard> re.
16:39 < esden> hi Aard 
16:39 < owl> wb Aard
16:40 < Aard> (online via wlannow..)
16:40 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018529.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:41 < esden> hi schasi ... you missed a 't' in your nick?
16:43 < owl> hi schasi
16:43 < schasi> hi
16:44 < schasi> what would my name be like with a t in it?
16:45 < knoti> hi Aard
16:45 < fake> a german synonym for 'dear' as in 'my dear'
16:45 < fake> or a eastern-german law-enforcement , depending on where you put it
16:45 < owl> schatsi != schatzi...
16:45 < fake> schtasi ;)
16:45 < schasi> you german?
16:46 < esden> schasi: most of the people here 
16:46 < knoti> yes
16:46 < owl> fake: but this is bavarian german :p or "schwaebisch"
16:46 < fake> most of us, but the channel is english-only
16:46 < knoti> and the most are sitting around in Karlsruhe today ;)
16:46 < schasi> well my name is a mixture of schüler and hasi. so its sc hasi schasi
16:46 < esden> knoti: but not many enough ... :-(
16:46 < fake> ah...
16:46 < owl> *rofl*
16:47 < schasi> nice a channel full of germans speaking english, why not ^^
16:47 < fake> yes, SMP and esden and owl and Mike1 and cchamilton and jocelyn and Sirkull and Alejandro and ... are missing
16:48 < esden> fake: yes ... we losers ;-)
16:48 < owl> haeh? why losers?
16:48 < owl> *confused*
16:48 < schasi> rofl
16:48 < fake> and many more
16:48 < fake> becuase you are.
16:49 < fake> face e truth
16:49 < fake> we rule, you suck.
16:49 < schasi> rofl
16:49 < schasi> you wish
16:49 < esden> lol
16:49 < fake> *lol*
16:49 * owl takes a sword and kills fake with it - slowly and painful - enjoy it, fake *har*
16:49 < owl> :p
16:50 < fake> hm, glib on the challenge (in stage 5 now!) should be finished in only ... 9 more hours!
16:50 < fake> glibc even
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16:50 < Aard> kasc: lebst du noch? daja will das wissen
16:52 < schasi> fake: are you on gentoo?
16:52 < schasi> atm
16:54 < schasi> oh well now i understand what rocklinux wants to be
16:54 < esden> schasi: ?
16:54 < fake> Aard: i feel pain, so i am still alive, i thinkl.
16:55 < schasi> beat him again
16:55 < Aard> fake: please adjust your text-parser..
16:55 < fake> schasi: no, i only use gentoo if i have to sort big numbers of mp3s...
16:55 < esden> fake: Aard was asking for kasc
16:55 < fake> argh
16:55 < owl> .oO( fake is using _what_?!!!!!! )
16:55 < fake> dont confuse me with 3-times-relocations ;)
16:55 < esden> owl: the gentoo file manager
16:56 < esden> I suppose
16:56 < Aard> fake: I can see from here that you are still alife, no need to ask..
16:56 < owl> esden: ah so.. *lol*
16:56 < fake> i use gentoo *g*
16:56 < owl> fake: *kick* you're evil :p
16:56 < esden> owl: do not worry ... I think fake will not taint his machines with gentoo linux distribution *vbeg*
16:57 < esden> am I right fake?
16:57 < fake> ack.
16:57 < owl> esden: hehe. at least i hope so. :p
16:57 < fake> gentoo is even part of rock 2.0.0
16:58 < esden> fake: o_O we have a gentoo target?
16:58 < esden> have I missed something?
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17:00 < fake> no
17:01 < fake> the gentoo filemanager is part of desktop rock
17:02 < esden> *sigh* ... this confusion ...
17:02 * owl laughs about esden 
17:03 < esden> but it would be possible to make a gentoo target ... we had that topic on last RLDM
17:03 < esden> but as it seems noone wants/needs it ;-)
17:04 < owl> and what for ...?
17:04 < owl> ack
17:04 < esden> a a proof of concept
17:04 < owl> a proof... hrm..
17:05 < fake> a proof of geekness ;)
17:05 < esden> or so ... yes ;-)
17:05 < schasi> how much time does it take to compile rocklinux? say with kde and the most needed tools
17:06 < owl> nah. not really... geeknes is proved by doing a totally small base and so... :p
17:06 < owl> schasi: which PC do you have?
17:06 < Aard> owl: base = base system?
17:07 < owl> Aard: yes..
17:07 < schasi> 1700xp + 512 ram
17:07 < owl> (and just adding stuff like kde or crap - but in different repos... and so)
17:07 < Aard> uh, that means I'm an approved geek? ;)
17:08 < owl> Aard: think so :p
17:08 < schasi> well how long does it take with that system?
17:09 < fake> 3 to 5 days
17:09 < owl> how long?!!!!!!!!
17:09 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
17:09 < owl> omg...
17:09 < owl> hi blindcoder
17:10 < blindcoder> p4 1800 with 512 MB RAMBus, 6 days including Stage 9
17:11 < schasi> owl: what was wrong with how long?
17:11 < owl> oh goth... i'm soooooooooooooooooooooo lucky about my LFS...
17:11 < owl> schasi: because it's extremely long
17:11 < Aard> owl: you called me?
17:11 < owl> Aard: nah. *kick*
17:12 < Aard> owl: wtf?
17:12 < owl> Aard: ?
17:12 < Aard> 17:19 < owl> oh goth -- you called me.
17:12 < owl> Aard: nack. i didn't call you
17:13 < Aard> you did.
17:13 < owl> .oO(but better calling Aard than an non-existent ""god"")
17:13 < Aard> owl: hey, I'm existend. the people here at lt can proove that
17:13 < owl> Aard: no further comments ;p
17:20 * netrunner needs ca. 30h for a generic build w/o stage 9
17:20 < fake> netrunner: cluster build?
17:21 < netrunner> fake: local cluster (mp system)
17:22 * netrunner thinks about doubling the ram that each cpu can use tempfs... damn those ide-i/os are too slow :)
17:24 < owl> *sigh*
17:24 < Aard> owl: ?
17:25 < owl> Aard: hm. nothing.. just - thinking *gnarf*
17:25 < blindcoder> GUH-narf!
17:25 < Aard> owl: you're not allowed to think today. sorry.
17:26 < owl> Aard: hm. then give me the bottle of alk.
17:26 < owl> forgot to buy wodka today :-(((
17:26 < Aard> good girl.
17:27 < owl> Aard: *kick* this doesn't mean that i have completely no alk here... but i have to trink osbourne or so then... :-(
17:27 < knoti> the live could be so easy with a bottle of wodka and no exams *g*
17:27 < Aard> owl: I don't think ozzy likes that..
17:28 < owl> knoti: ack. but: s -e s/no exams/understanding what people think
17:28 * blindcoder now checking out a virgin rock-trunk
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17:32 < owl> blindcoder: have fun...
17:33 < blindcoder> thakn
17:34 < knoti> lol
17:34 < knoti> owl: yeah
17:34 < owl> why lol?
17:35 < blindcoder> esden: ping
17:35 < knoti> owl: understanding what people think? Do you _really_ want that?
17:36 < blindcoder> hm... alcohol or caffeeine?
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17:36 < LoonyAard> gna. connection problems to my box at home :(
17:36 < owl> knoti: yes.. i want. at least sometimes
17:36 < owl> blindcoder: hm? alk... alk is better... for killing brain and so... ya know
17:37 < knoti> owl: You like to understand stupidity as well as intelligence?
17:37 < schueler> did you see the movie "what women want"?
17:37 < knoti> owl: brrr
17:37 < LoonyAard> wer von euch ist jetzt der boese wolf? ;)
17:37 < knoti> Aard: There again?
17:37 < schueler> rofl
17:37 < knoti> here
17:37 < schueler> here
17:37 < schueler> ^^
17:37 < LoonyAard> ah :)
17:37 < schueler> no knoti is it
17:37 < schueler> it
17:37 < owl> schueler: nah... *lol* (btw, /me = female. and /me != lesbian)
17:37 < knoti> LoonyAard: Try /whois knoti
17:38 < knoti> :)
17:38 < blindcoder> owl: for coding... I've created outstanding lesults with both :D
17:38 < LoonyAard> thx. :)
17:38 < schueler> owl: makes things easier for you sometimes
17:38 < knoti> LoonyAard: just query me
17:39 < owl> blindcoder: hm... k.
17:39 < owl> schueler: why?
17:40 < schueler> well you dont have that "women are from mars, men are from venus" problem, maybe you do, but not as hard as others
17:40 < owl> schueler: wtf-problem? O_o
17:41 < schueler> huh?
17:41 < owl> wtf-ist-women-are-from-mars-men-are-from-venus-problem ?
17:42 < schueler> the problem that they dont understand each another
17:42 < owl> *g* ah so...
17:42 < owl> hm. but i have it...
17:42 < schueler> Yes but not as hard as a man and a woman
17:42 < blindcoder> owl: btw... it's the other way routnd...
17:43 < schueler> because two women are more alike then a man and a woman
17:43 < blindcoder> women == venus, men == mars
17:44 < esden> blindcoder: pong???
17:44 < owl> now i'm completely confused... i'm having jut the problem: women <-> man
17:44 < blindcoder> esden: hi! how's the exam been?
17:44 < blindcoder> schueler: STRIKE! We did it :D
17:44 < schueler> well now _im_ confuused
17:44 < schueler> too
17:44 < blindcoder> hrm?
17:44 < blindcoder> ARGH
17:44 < schueler> and loosing my sense for english
17:45 < esden> blindcoder: forget it ... it was terrible
17:45 < blindcoder> esden: come on... you learned hard for it... it can't have been THAT bad... can it?
17:45 < owl> hehe. don't mind. /me never had sense for english
17:45 < tcr> re all
17:45 < owl> hi tcr
17:45 < blindcoder> hi tcr
17:45 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... it was so bad
17:45 < blindcoder> esden: hrmpf
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17:53 < Aard> esden: hehe..the bad part of it: you could have cme to linux tag.. ;)
17:53 < esden> yes that is right ... :-(
17:59 < Aard> esden: what ar you wating for? I espect you to be here within 2 hours; )
17:59 < owl> Aard: might you should send a helicopter ... and please to /me too
18:00 < Aard> owl: why? you didn't want to come
18:00 < knoti> hi tcr
18:00 < Aard> btw, I'll be here tomorrow, too
18:00 < tcr> owl: Use esden as mount
18:01 < tcr> hello knoti
18:01 < owl> Aard: because i have no money and i'm not willed to take the train and sit in it for some hours. (and i'm not allowed to have vacation ...)
18:01 < owl> tcr: nah. bad idea
18:02 < Aard> owl: beat esden until he agrees to come this noght or tomorrow very early -> problem solved
18:02 < daja77> re
18:02 < Aard> huhu daja77 :)
18:02 * tcr brb (getting such a usb pci-card)
18:02 < owl> Aard: hehe. then i would need vacation on monday... --> still problem...
18:02 < Aard> owl: why? you'll be back sunday evening
18:03 < owl> Aard: yes... but i guess extremely tired...
18:03 < owl> and i have to code in this fscking .ARG-shit...
18:04 < Aard> you can sleep during the trip
18:04 < owl> Aard: nah...
18:04 < owl> and - i guess that i even can't move my body tomorrow...
18:04 -!- schueler is now known as schasi
18:04 < knoti> owl: wtf is .ARG `
18:05 < owl> knoti: .NET...
18:05 < Aard> owl: get a wheelchair.. ;)
18:05 < fake> Advanced RISC Generation?
18:05 < knoti> owl: LOL I had to code that until I quitted my slavejob.
18:05 < fake> risc extended instruction set ;)
18:05 < owl> Aard: *kick*
18:05 < Aard> owl: wtf?
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18:05 < holyolli> moin
18:05 < fake> hi mr. pilot!
18:05 < owl> knoti: hihi. i will do it, too... in about an year
18:05 < knoti> moin
18:06 < holyolli> hi fake
18:06 < owl> Aard: because of the wheelchair
18:06 < owl> hi holyolli
18:06 < holyolli> hi knoti
18:06 < Aard> owl: wtf?
18:06 < holyolli> hi owl
18:06 < daja77> Aard will never get my wheelchair
18:06 < owl> hihi
18:06 < Aard> daja77: I don't want it, owl wants
18:06 < owl> want? need you mean...
18:06 < daja77> I don't wanna let women drive it ...
18:07 < Aard> *lol*
18:07 < owl> *cough* *cough*
18:07 < daja77> hey you need experience for that ...
18:07 < owl> hmmm.
18:08 < Aard> daja77: let owl drive here, it's a kind of `autolart' for `schlipsies' :)
18:08 < knoti> daja77: *g*
18:08 < owl> Aard: ???
18:08 < knoti> Aard: You just need a diagonal surface, I think at at least 50° should be sufficient.
18:08 < fake> holyolli: why aren't you @ linuxtag?
18:08 < daja77> hmm would it kill gentoo users?
18:08 * fake collecting cheap excuses
18:09 < Aard> owl: daja drives to a box filled with schlipsies, and then lets you drive. :)
18:09 < knoti> daja77: That depends on how long it is *g*
18:09 < Aard> fake: cheap? how much will you pay? :)
18:09 < owl> fake: why cheap excuse?
18:10 < owl> Aard: better suggestion: put them around the wheelchair... so there is a "stossdaempfer"
18:10 < Aard> owl: who do ypu want to protect with that? :)
18:10 < daja77> ugh don't wanna be surrounded by that scum ...
18:10 < owl> th
18:11 < owl> Aard: the weelchair
18:11 < owl> hehehehe. are they sooooooo horrible ? *vbeg*
18:11 < Aard> btw, is it possible to boot linux on that wheelchair?
18:11 < daja77> yes, they even wanna rob my jolt
18:11 < daja77> Aard: dunno
18:15 < knoti> Aard: Wo kann man eigentlich den Leitner zu dietlibc per mail erreichen ?
18:15 < Aard> knoti: iirc steht was auf www.fefe.de/dietlibc, ansonsten einfach an fefe@fefe.de
18:16 < Aard> ueberleg dir aber ob es wichtig ist, er hat gerade verdammt viel zu tun und nach eigenen aussagen >2500 ungelesene mails in der inbox
18:18 < knoti> Aard: Hmm. PPC dietlibc compiled halt nicht.
18:18 < Aard> knoti: am besten mail an dietlibc mailinglist, mit fehlerbeschreibung
18:18 < knoti> Aard: Kannst du jemanden mit Kenntnissen über gcc-inline-assembler auftreiben?
18:18 < knoti> Aard: dietlibc@fefe.de ?
18:19 < Aard> ja.
18:19 < knoti> Aard: www.fefe.de/dietlibc schweigt sich über eine mailaddresse aus. dietlibc-subscribe@fefe.de habe ich vor ~2h kontaktiert --> nothing .. :(
18:20 < Aard> warte.
18:22 < knoti> k
18:28 < blindcoder> hrmpf
18:44 * netrunner needs to create a new package.
18:45 < blindcoder> what for?
18:46 < netrunner> blindcoder: I want to listen the fritz.de livestream from the loveparade
18:46 * owl ph34rs netrunner 
18:47 < blindcoder> hrm
18:47 < blindcoder> I have a patch that impacts Build-Tools and each package with parse-config file in the works here :D
18:53 < fake> we have to leave
18:53 < fake> c u later, @AKK
18:53 < daja77> cu
18:54 < Aard> cu.
18:54 < Aard> esden: cu tomorrow ;)
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19:13 < owl> re
19:15 < blindcoder> wb
19:15 < schasi> wb
19:17 < owl> thx
19:17 < schasi> np ^^
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19:28 < tcr> "Informacije o festivalu Rock in izola SLO-GER-GB-I"
19:28 < tcr> Wow, I even get SPAM about rock ;)
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20:22 < fake> woo
20:22 < fake> internet in the wild
20:22 < blindcoder> wild?
20:22 -!- christian [~christian@pD9E3919B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:22 < fake> hi from the campus of uni karlsruhe, over a wild connection
20:22 < owl> hi christian
20:22 < christian> returned from linuxday :=)
20:23 < christian> greetings to all :)
20:28 < netrunner> grmbl ... that package has no configure, no make install ...
20:28 < owl> netrunner: ???
20:33 < blindcoder> fake: you old wardriver :)
20:35 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p50833142.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:37 < christian> hi schasi
20:37 < schasi> hi christian
20:38 < christian> how are you?
20:38 < schasi> fine. n u?
20:38 < christian> very very fine - because of rocklinux :)
20:38 < schasi> rofl
20:38 < christian> rock linux is very good
20:39 < schasi> are you a bot?
20:39 < christian> no :)
20:39 < christian> i'm a real chatter :)
20:39 < schasi> wow a good bot
20:39 < christian> lol
20:40 < christian> what can i do, that you "think", that i'm a real chatter? :)
20:41 < schasi> well tell me about advantages of rock linux, pls
20:41 < blindcoder> christian: test my Linux Progress Patch package *MUAHAHAHAHA*
20:41 < christian> lol :)
20:42 < blindcoder> because if it doesn't work... you won't like it anymore :D\
20:43 < blindcoder> let's put it this way: the explanation of the package and what it does to ROCK are almost twice as long as the changes themselves :D
20:43 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802BDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
20:44 < christian> hi netrunne1 - i'm not a BOT :)
20:45 < mnemoc> /msh christian help
20:46 < christian> ahja :)
20:46 < blindcoder> ok, sent to the list *phew*
20:46 < blindcoder> I hate documentation >_<
20:46 < christian> *phew*
20:48 * blindcoder now writing some CDs
20:50 < schasi> christian: dont want to tell me about the advantages of rock linux?
20:51 < tcr> schasi: Parts are summarized on the website
20:51 < christian> its fast, you lerarn with rocklinux how linux really works, its stable and stone is very useful
20:51 < schasi> thd
20:51 < schasi> wtf is stone?
20:51 < owl> schasi: the installer of rock
20:51 < christian> the configuration programm?
20:51 < schasi> well slackware is stable too and you learn how linux works too
20:51 < owl> or so...
20:52 < christian> schasi - you havent got rocklinux - am i right?
20:52 < schasi> atm i dont have any linux
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20:52 < schasi> i have a half configured debian
20:52 < owl> schasi: huh? pardon? what then? windows?
20:52 < christian> well - i use rocklinux only since 1 day. i m sure, that there are many other big advantages of linuxrock. please ask the other chatters to get a well answer.
20:52 < tcr> schasi: ROCK Linux can only vaguely compared to slackware
20:53 < tcr> or to any other distribution
20:53 < schasi> owl: indeed windows
20:53 < owl> *crossing fingers*
20:53 < schasi> well i use debian if i use a distri, and i know some things about gentoo.
20:53 < schasi> and tried suse for some time
20:54 < owl> uuuuuuh. you used the evil word *crossing fingers even more*
20:54 < schasi> ok i USED the evil word
20:54 < tcr> Well, I don't think rock linux is something for you then
20:54 < schasi> but suse is not bad at all... its good for noobs
20:54 < schasi> like i am/was
20:55 < tcr> Nisi you really want to learn
20:55 * tcr is away again: bll
20:55 < schasi> nisi?
20:55 < tcr> bbl
20:55 < tcr> nisi is latin and means "Es sei denn"
20:56 < schasi> well what i need is some "hybrid"
20:57 < schasi> on the one hand i need a distro that works, where i can surf, chat and load with some mule clone
20:57 < schasi> on the other i want to learn something about linux
20:57 < blindcoder> schasi: ROCK. ROCK again.
20:57 < schasi> not everything, but something
20:57 < schasi> well why not gentoo or slack
20:57 < schasi> or even lfs ^^
20:58 < blindcoder> well, you can do almost anything with any distro
20:58 < schasi> i know
20:58 < schasi> more or less
20:59 < schasi> my favorite distro is a mix betwenn (evil word) and lfs. i want it up fast, but i want to learn something
21:00 < owl> a mix between $name and LFS? how does this work?
21:01 < blindcoder> hrm... that would be Lindows...
21:01 < schasi> $name = $very evil linux os
21:01 < blindcoder> or Knoppix
21:01 < schasi> blindcoder: what packet manager does lindows have?
21:01 < blindcoder> schasi: a GUI for apt-get
21:02 < owl> oh my fscking god...
21:02 * owl hides in a dark corner and begins to cry
21:02 < blindcoder> s/god/goddess/
21:02 < schasi> whew thats nice
21:02 < schasi> does rock have a packetmanager
21:02 < schasi> ?
21:02 < owl> nice??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:02 < blindcoder> mine
21:02 < blindcoder> stone can also be used a a frontend for mine
21:03 < schasi> wtf is mine?
21:03 < blindcoder> owl: sure. ever heard about usability?
21:03 < blindcoder> schasi: mine is the package-manager of ROCK :-)
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21:04 < owl> blindcoder: gui-apt-get says enough... to say "i will never use it"
21:04 < blindcoder> owl: I take that as a "no"
21:04 < dexter> hi
21:04 < schasi> well how do you define usability?
21:04 < blindcoder> hi dexter
21:04 < owl> hehe
21:04 < schasi> is usabiltiy a console program or a gui program?
21:05 < blindcoder> schasi: easily accesable, doesn't let the user in unsolvable situations, mostly self-explaining
21:05 < blindcoder> schasi: both can be. but a simple command-line-utility without as much as a text user interface doesn't fit any rule of usability
21:05 < schasi> well thats a good explanation
21:06 < schasi> how do i install new software in rock linux?
21:07 < blindcoder> that usually happens through either stone (though there's still some work needed)
21:07 < blindcoder> or by going to your rock-src directory
21:07 < blindcoder> typing ./scripts/Download {package}
21:08 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg {package}
21:08 < blindcoder> or directly with mine
21:08 < blindcoder> with stone and mine you can install pre-compiled binaries
21:08 < schasi> does mine solve dependencies?
21:08 < blindcoder> no
21:08 < schasi> uh
21:08 < blindcoder> that's planned for the 2.1 tree AFAIk
21:09 < schasi> well until then thats an advantage for apt-get and emerge
21:09 < blindcoder> I wouldn't really call that an advantage...
21:09 < schasi> y not?
21:09 < blindcoder>     my experience with emerge and apt-get are.... not good, at best
21:10 < schasi> what happened?
21:10 < blindcoder> with apt-get I updated my apache webserver, and it deinstalled php in the process
21:10 < schasi> uh
21:10 < blindcoder> and with emerge I wanted to install vim and it wanted to compile XFree86 first...
21:10 < blindcoder> USE="-X" was silently ignored
21:11 < blindcoder> same with emerge nethack
21:11 < blindcoder> that was when I left gentoo alone again
21:11 < schasi> hm
21:12 < schasi> and installed ur software by hand
21:12 < blindcoder> and continued using ROCK :-)
21:12 < schasi> well you love ur rock do u?
21:12 < blindcoder> thing is
21:12 < schasi> is rock easy to use?
21:12 < blindcoder> Build-Pkf andles compile-time dependencies already
21:12 < schasi> let me give an exampel
21:12 < blindcoder> Build-Pkg
21:13 < schasi> suse is "easy to use" because its easily installed
21:13 < schasi> gentoo is almost easy to use, because of its good docs
21:14 < schasi> dont you think rock will make similar mistakes if its solving dependencies?
21:14 < blindcoder> I don't think ROCK fits in any of these "ease-of-use" cotegories
21:14 < schasi> so its not easily installed and doesnt have good documentation?
21:15 < blindcoder> I don't think so. There were always strong voices when the topic of dep-solving came up
21:15 < blindcoder> Someone who never touched Linux won't be able to get ROCK up and running.
21:16 < schasi> well that would be me almost
21:16 < schasi> what do i need to get rock up and running?
21:16 < esden> re hi all
21:16 < blindcoder> Also, someone who hasn't a basic knowledge about how the packages he wants to use are configured, won't be able to get ROCK up and runing either.\
21:16 < blindcoder> esden: wb
21:16 < esden> sigh ... alx is such a brabbler ... 
21:16 < blindcoder> esden: jepp :)
21:17 < esden> he was here since 17:30 ... 
21:17 < blindcoder> schasi: A CD-Writer, some bandwidth and the will to get it up and running.
21:17 < blindcoder> esden: hrr
21:17 < dexter> hi esden
21:17 < schasi> do you think i would be able to get rock up? isnt there any "am i able to get rock up" test?
21:17 < dexter> 15 min before the first iso-image is downloaded
21:17 < blindcoder> schasi: no, there isn't one yet. But I think the installation takes care of that :D
21:17 < dexter> hmm 3 hours for the first two
21:18 < schasi> lol
21:18 < blindcoder> but the installation has made huge progress since I last tried
21:18 < blindcoder> (had to install every package manually back then >_<)
21:19 < esden> blindcoder: you mean 1.7 early times ... since mine was implemented?
21:19 < blindcoder> esden: yes
21:19 < esden> ahh ok
21:19 < schasi> anyone not german-speaking here?
21:19 < blindcoder> sooner times, few months before 2.0-beta1
21:19 < blindcoder> schasi: a few... not many, though
21:20 < esden> but I always typed for i in `ls <packetdir>` ; do mine -i -R /trg $i ; done
21:20 < esden> that was making the manual installation much easier ;-)
21:20 < schasi> so why does everyone speak englisch? we are not a minority here
21:21 < esden> no ... bet here are also other people that are not speaking german
21:21 < esden> and we all can speak english ... so that all are satisfied
21:21 < blindcoder> at creation-time we declared LANG="en_US" here because else ROCK might be branded a "german-only" Distribution
21:22 < schasi> i cant speak english
21:22 < blindcoder> well, you do very good for that :-)
21:22 < schasi> thx i try my best
21:22 < esden> blindcoder: ack
21:22 < blindcoder> esden: you'll be in IN tomorrow?
21:22 < esden> blindcoder: nope
21:22 < blindcoder> hrrm
21:22 < esden> I will bi in in an monday first ... why?
21:23 < blindcoder> esden: in case I decided to do something to know whom I can call :)
21:23 < schasi> --> come to #rocklinux | the channel for learning linux AND english | join now <--
21:23 < esden> blindcoder: sorry ... that I will be not on that list ... but you can call me anyways ;-)
21:24 < esden> I will be happy about that ;-)
21:24 * -> esden -> shaving ;-)
21:24 < schasi> anyone using xchat?
21:24 < dexter> yep
21:25 < schasi> how to switch between channels by keyboard?
21:25 < dexter> I have no idea, i never go to IRC channels
21:26 < blindcoder> dexter: erm... you are on one right now :-)
21:26 < dexter> this is one of those few moments that I do
21:26 < schasi> anyone else using xchat?
21:26 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sirio_, mnemoc
21:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sirio_
21:27 < dexter> I usualy go to a MOO
21:27 < schasi> wtf is a moo?
21:27 < dexter> a MUD:-)
21:28 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux
21:29 < schasi> and what is that?
21:30 < dexter> an enviroment where you can chat and where you can build rooms, and make programs
21:30 < dexter> all things there are objects
21:30 < dexter> it is actually a object orientated enviroment
21:30 < dexter> so is the programming language there
21:30 < schasi> the main homepage?
21:32 < dexter> hmm if your interested in you own MOO enviroment I dont know where you can download it, but you can login to demetro.nl 8888
21:32 * -> esden back
21:32 < schasi> why own moo env?
21:32 < schasi> i dont get exactly what moo is
21:33 < blindcoder> moo is a Multi-User-Dungeon
21:34 < blindcoder> esden: wb
21:34 < blindcoder> again
21:34 < blindcoder> :)
21:34 < dexter> MUD Object Orientated (MUD=Multi User Dungeon)
21:34 < blindcoder> a MUD is something like a text-adventure. Just that you are not alone, but it's multiplayer
21:34 < blindcoder> in it's simplest form, it's a multiplayer text adventure
21:34 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@Mix-Nancy-105-2-145.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux
21:34 < DeElsasser> re
21:35 < esden> blindcoder: hehe ... I was away to cut my face a bit with something sharp ;-)
21:35 < DeElsasser> ping Mike1
21:36 < blindcoder> esden: hrm... I also have something sharp to cut your face with *takes out a small tooth-pick (One-Handed Sword called Excalibur)
21:36 < esden> mhhh ... I did not know that it is so sharp ... 
21:36 < schasi> are there any screenshots`?
21:36 * -> esden takes out his lockpicking tools ;-)
21:36 < esden> they are sharper ;-)
21:37 < esden> rofl polish flag on loveparade ;-)
21:37 < esden> that is something that I like !
21:39 * -> esden has to organize a polish flag for 19C3 ;-)
21:39 < esden> argh
21:39 < esden> I mean 20C3
21:40 < owl> netrunne1: are you here?
21:44 < dexter> arg mozilla crashes
21:44 < schasi> on ur rock?
21:45 < dexter> no on slackware
21:45 < schasi> i know mozilla to crash on suse
21:45 < dexter> i'am still downloading rock:-)
21:45 * -> esden 's mozilla is not crashing ;-)
21:45 < esden> my mozilla may have an uptime of some weeks already ...
21:45 < schasi> i dont think thats because ur using rock
21:45 * -> esden needs an uptime command for his mozilla ;-)
21:46 < dexter> i get everything to crash:-)
21:46 < esden> schasi: sure it is because I am using rock ... why else ? *vbeg*
21:46 < esden> dexter: so you are a bogon emitter ;-)
21:46 < schasi> you are
21:47 < dexter> uhm bogon?
21:48 < esden> yes the big electrons that are clogging the wires in your processor
21:48 < dexter> hehehe:-)
21:48 < esden> you need someone who is emitting cluons
21:48 < esden> if cluons get in contact with bogons they reduce their size so that they fit through the wires perfectly
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21:51 < esden> hmm ... /me is asking himself where the lt crue is ... is noone of them online?
21:52 < dexter> I'am a very big bogon there is no cluon that can reduce my size enough
21:54 < dexter> if I don't get mozilla to crash on rock I'll put a rock banner on my website:-)
21:55 < esden> I think linus cluons are good enough to fix that ;-)
21:55 < dexter> hmmm okee that may do the trick-)
21:56 < mnemoc> dexter: mozilla will not crash :)
21:57 < dexter> hehe your all in denial i gues:-)
21:58 < mnemoc> i'm using mozilla right now... with no crashes
21:59 < dexter> I believe you, but I get it to crash every day
21:59 < mnemoc> you are not rocking yet ;)
21:59 < mnemoc> bbl
22:00 < owl> hm... guys... you make something wrong... move your computer to outside... enjoy the cool day. the candle. the wine... look into the moon and think...
22:00 < owl> *sigh*
22:01 < dexter> still 2 iso-images to go
22:01 < dexter> I have no time to go outside I have to watch how the download progresses;-)
22:04 < esden> dexter: download rate?
22:05 < dexter> 54KB/sec
22:05 < esden> that is not much...
22:05 < schasi> do you have to download manually or what?
22:05 < esden> schasi: he is probably writing down every bit by hand on paper and then typing it back on his machine ;-)
22:06 < schasi> or printing it and than scanning it in on another machine
22:06 < esden> schasi: something like that 
22:06 < schasi> but then 54 kb... respect
22:06 < dexter> I download the ISO-Images manually, I tried downloading the sources by ./scripts/Download ... and then build it but it dit not work
22:06 < esden> dexter: what went wrong?
22:08 < dexter> hmm it could not build the 2.4.bla kernel I believe, I did not pay much attention to it because it was advised somewhere that I could build it better on a ROCK machine, thats why I'am downloading the images
22:09 < dexter> I see that i still have the errors on screen in a terminal window
22:09 < dexter> interested?
22:09 < schasi> why are there different stages like in gentoo? are they comparable?
22:09 < esden> rofl the answer from fake on nikolaus mail is very nice ;-)
22:10 < esden> dexter: yes you are right rock is best built on rock ... it would be nice if someone invested some time to change that ...
22:10 < esden> dexter: on debian you can build rock too without too much time investment
22:11 < schasi> why is it so hard to build rock on a not-rock-machine?
22:12 < dexter> you need devfs for instance which is not a standard on all distributions
22:12 < schasi> devfs? wtf is that`?
22:13 < esden> because rock has a lot of sh scripts that use a lot of functionality ... and most distributions overpatch their programs or have too old versions of programs that leads to problems
22:13 < esden> and rock uses devfs .. nearly no other distribution does that 
22:13 < esden> not even gentoo is using devfs propperly ...
22:14 < esden> they only have devfs in combination with devfsd in MAKE_OLD_CO
22:14 < esden> argh
22:14 < schasi> and why does rock use devfs? because no other distro is using it?
22:14 < esden> MAKE_OLD_COMPAT
22:14 < dexter> I believe devfs is going to replace the old devices structure in /dev
22:15 < esden> no because that is a very good solution ... and has many advantages over the old dev system
22:15 < blindcoder> I don't want to miss devfs anymore
22:15 * -> esden nither
22:15 < schasi> anyone a good devfs page?
22:15 < esden> it is easy ond clean
22:16 < esden> schasi: less /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README
22:16 < esden> *g*
22:16 < schasi> ond thats no other fs?
22:16 < schasi> esden: no linux am start
22:16 < schasi> atm
22:18 < schasi> tippt ihr euch da net den arsch ab beim mounten?
22:18 < esden> http://apollo.bingo-ev.de/~weasel/README
22:19 < esden> schasi: no ... tab is your friend ;-)
22:19 < schasi> rofl
22:19 < schasi> no aliases?
22:19 < blindcoder> schasi: no, because it's much easier to remember
22:19 < blindcoder> /dev/discs/disc0/part1 is much easier remember than /dev/sda1
22:20 < esden> mount /d<tab>/di<tab>/<tab>0/p<tab>3 
22:20 < schasi> and why is /dev messed up?
22:20 < schasi> rofl
22:20 < esden> it is more then on the old system ... but it is much more intuitive
22:20 < esden> and there is only the stuff that really exists
22:20 < esden> and you do not have to search anywhere else which partitions exist and which discs
22:21 < dexter> If I'am not mistaken you will find in the README the reasons for changing to this filesystem
22:21 < schasi> is there a command like "mount everything mountable"?
22:21 < schasi> yes i will read it in a second
22:21 < esden> schasi: mount -a
22:22 < schasi> esden: im not running linux atm
22:22 < esden> schasi: is there a c command do_what_I_want_you_to_do_and_give_back_what_I_need() ??
22:22 < schasi> i dunno
22:22 < schasi> but i guess not..
22:23 < esden> *ROFL* good guess *dying_from_loughing*
22:23 < blindcoder> esden: okay, could you please implement it? :)
22:23 < schasi> well just think about it
22:23 < esden> blindcoder: sure ... but first I need your brain ;-)
22:23 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,254875,00.html << *rofl* (sorry, german only)
22:23 < esden> only your brain without the shell ;-)
22:23 < blindcoder> #define do_what_I_want_you_to_do_and_give_back_what_I_need() return 1;
22:23 < schasi> you have 2 drives and 2 harddrives
22:24 < dexter> lets make it a button and call it do_what_i_want_button
22:24 < schasi> you type mount all or something like that
22:24 < schasi> and he mounts it for you
22:24 < esden> and besides ... I do not really want to mount swap partitions ;-)
22:24 < schasi> thats what i thought of
22:25 < schasi> are you sure?
22:25 < esden> i only want to activate them ... that is a big difference to mounting
22:26 < esden> (hehe ... the love parade sound is very good !!! I love it ;-) )
22:26 < dexter> love parade? berlin? now?
22:26 < esden> dexter: ack
22:27 * -> esden watching viva ;-)
22:27 < Mike1> re all
22:28 < esden> re Mike1 !!! may our beloved god bless you!!!
22:28 < esden> ;-)
22:28 < Mike1> esden: thanks brother, same to you
22:30 < esden> hmm ... I think there are no techno rockers in here beisdes me ... :-/
22:30 < Mike1> so what does it make me?
22:31 < esden> o_O
22:31 < esden> Mike1: since when do you hear techno? o_O
22:31 < esden> I missed something?
22:31 < Mike1> i guess you do
22:31 < dexter> hmm I like trance and hardstyle, I usually don't listen to techno
22:31 < esden> house ... trance rulez!
22:32 < esden> dexter: techno is an overtopic
22:32 < esden> for all that
22:32 < dexter> are you sure I really thought it was a different style
22:32 < esden> my favorites are hardhouse, vocal house, goa trance and psychadelic trance
22:32 < esden> dexter: the clasic techno is something different yes ;-)
22:33 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950E353.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:33 < dennis> hi
22:33 < esden> but I understand under techno all the other styles from shranz to vocal house
22:33 < owl> hi dennis ! :)
22:33 < esden> hi dennis 
22:33 < dexter> hi dennis
22:34 < dexter> I bought today the missing cd out of my In Trance We Trust collection
22:35 * -> esden not buying cd's ;-)
22:35 < owl> O_o the bots are answering :p
22:35 * -> esden listening to web radios most of the time
22:35 < esden> owl: o_O
22:36 < owl> esden: *g* don't mind... /me is just chilling and drinking ;ppp
22:36 < esden> owl our poor alcohol kid *sigh*
22:37 < dennis> for real chillout music look here: http://www.br-shop.de/main.cfm?nav=details&art_id=2203 :D
22:37 < dexter> drinking problems? still using windows?
22:37 < owl> esden: eh. it's just a bit of wine... mixed with orange juice - and my parents mixed it for me :p
22:38 < schasi> well you are old enough
22:38 < esden> dennis: hehe ... yes space night is very good chillout music
22:38 * blindcoder going to bed now
22:39 < blindcoder> g'night
22:39 < dennis> if you wanna have a copy tell me i bought the cd ;)
22:39 < dennis> gn8 blindcoder
22:39 < esden> n8 blindcoder 
22:39 < dexter> gn8 blindcoder
22:39 < owl> gn8 blindcoder
22:39 < schasi> what "überkategorie" does club-house have?
22:40 < esden> schasi: house? ... dunno
22:40 < owl> hm. gothic is also a bit of chillout music imho... or classical musik is great, too
22:40 < schasi> of course
22:41 < owl> waaaaaaaaaaah! my neighbours are now playing pop-musik *crying*
22:41 < schasi> rofl
22:41 < owl> schasi: *kick*
22:41 < schasi> pooooor owl
22:41 < schasi> haha
22:42 < owl> pfff. .oO(men...)
22:43 < schasi> rofl .oO(women...hihi)
22:43 < owl> pff
22:45 < dexter> btw if I choose to optimise for lets say a pentium 3, will it optimes the complete distribution for this cpu or only the kernel
22:45 < esden> hehe ... I can play you some djmixes owl ;-) good trance and house stuff ;-)
22:46 < esden> dexter: it is for all packets in the target you selected
22:46 < esden> not only kernel
22:46 < esden> dexter: see man gcc to make you clear about that topic ;-)
22:48 < dexter> I wonder dutch dj's are very populair in many countries, are they also in germany?
22:49 < schasi> where are you from dexter?
22:50 < esden> dexter: not that I know of ... sorry
22:50 < owl> esden: nah... gothic is better. /me np: wolfsheim - kuenstliche welten *sigh*
22:51 < dexter> why  are some names yellow?? sorry I'am a IRC newbe
22:52 < dexter> schasi:I'am from the netherlands
22:52 < esden> dexter: the names that are quoting your nick ... and/or the names that are using /me command
22:52 < esden> for example
22:52 * -> esden is in a very good mood
22:53 * owl too
22:53 * schasi asks himself why esden could be in such a good mood
22:53 * dexter uhm test?
22:53 < dexter> aaah
22:53 < schasi> are you enlightened now?
22:54 * dexter can see the light now
22:55 < esden> hmm ... a dim light at the end of a tunnel is normally indicating that you are dead ;-)
22:55 < owl> waaaah. switch the light off please. it's too "hell"
22:55 < dexter> hahaha:-)
22:55 < esden> owl: hell = bright
22:55 < owl> hm?
22:56 < esden> owl: please use dict !!!!!
22:56 < owl> esden: thx. my brain is not able to work anymore.
22:56 < schasi> light... to....bright....to....code
22:56 < owl> esden: why should i? i simly dould leave #rocklinux again
22:56 < schasi> something like that?
22:56 < esden> erm ... multiple use of exclimation marks is a sure indication of a diseased mind ...
22:56 < esden> humm
22:56 < schasi> i guess im the only one using windows in here?
22:57 < esden> owl: ??? no, do not leave #rocklinux we need you ... ;-) but use dict please
22:57 < schasi> wtf is an exclimation mark?
22:57 < esden> *GG*
22:57 < owl> esden: nah.
22:57 < dexter> well I have a laptop with XP
22:57 < schasi> oh
22:57 < schasi> i thought i was alone
22:57 * owl ph34rs dexter 
22:57 < schasi> *puuh*
22:57 < esden> schasi: exclamation mark is that -> !
22:57 < Mike1> hi owly
22:57 < owl> hi Miguel :)
22:57 < dexter> umh? ph34rs?
22:58 < esden> roe miky my brother! ;-) *hug*
22:58 < owl> *lol*
22:58 < Mike1> owl: esden und ich are borthers..
22:58 * owl shares the bottle of wine with #rocklinux . someone wants? fake maybe?
22:59 < schasi> dexter: ph34rs = fears
22:59 < owl> borthers... borders? borderliner? *har*
22:59 < schasi> oh well
22:59 < esden> ph34r my n4kk3d 3x(l4m4t10n m4rks ;-)
22:59 < schasi> nooooo
22:59 < owl> *lol*
22:59 < esden> schasi: do you know megatokyo?
22:59 < schasi> y0u 4r3 t00 1337 4 us
22:59 < schasi> not really?
23:00 < esden> schasi: www.megatokyo.com
23:00 < esden> schasi: yes I know that I am too 1337 for this world ;-) *rofl*
23:01 < esden> schasi: megatokyo is a very nice web comic with a high addiction factor 
23:01 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950E353.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ()
23:01 < schasi> FUCK please tell this to me before you send me to this page
23:01 * dexter needs XP to be really glad that he has also linux
23:01 < schasi> im an mange anime fan
23:02 < schasi> *addictionbegins...*
23:02 < praenti> re
23:02 < praenti> and hi
23:02 < schasi> esden: you know userfriendly.org?
23:03 < esden> schasi: hehe ... *rofl* ... good that you are an anime fan ... you will like megatokyo even more ;-)
23:03 < esden> schasi: hehe ... sure I know it ;-)
23:03 < esden> hi praenti !!!
23:03 < schasi> im a comic fan to be exact
23:03 < schasi> woa i loooove it
23:03 < schasi> adoration
23:03 < esden> praenti: finally on LT?
23:03 < schasi> my everyday-comic
23:03 < schasi> you know reallifecomics.com esden?
23:03 < praenti> no. back in IN
23:03 < esden> schasi: I had a lurk in it ... but I do not read that regulary
23:04 < esden> praenti: ahh right
23:04 < esden> praenti: how was the day?
23:04 < esden> how is LT? have you pics?
23:04 < esden> praenti: do you know www.digitallyimported.com ?
23:05 < praenti> no and no (have no digi-cam)
23:05 * -> esden weeps
23:06 < praenti> argl. if i had organized my trip to LT much better, i would know that clifford also drives through IN...
23:06 < esden> praenti: digitallyimported is a nice collection of pretty good house/trance and other styles web radios
23:06 < esden> praenti: so why have you not came back with clifford then?
23:06 < praenti> so if i had know that, i had s.th. to sleep there and would be on LT tomorrow. sheiße...
23:07 < schasi> esden, what does weep mean in germanß
23:07 < esden> schasi: weinen
23:07 < praenti> esden: that was the main problem. nothing to sleep...
23:08 < esden> schasi: http://dict.leo.org/?search=weep
23:08 < esden> praenti: who needs anything to sleep? ...
23:08 < schasi> is there any leo plugin or something like that?
23:08 < esden> praenti: floor is good enough
23:08 < praenti> esden: urgl.
23:08 < schasi> sorry was too lazy to surf the page... have to change from keyboard to mouse to do that
23:08 < praenti> no not me
23:09 < praenti> cant sleep on the hard floor
23:09 < praenti> and the second problem was that i've promised to be in the tanzbar tomorrow
23:10 < schasi> how to start an internetpage from xchat? is that possible?
23:13 < praenti> ok. i will now go to bed. very tired after this day
23:13 < praenti> gn8
23:13 < schasi> n8
23:13 < dexter> gn8 praenti
23:14 < owl> gn8 praenti
23:14 < esden> ok I go to bed
23:14 < esden> good night everyone
23:14 < dexter> gn8 esden
23:14 < owl> gn8 esden *hug*
23:14 < esden> *rehug*
23:15 < schasi> sleep well
23:15 < Mike1> cu esden
23:15 * Mike1 hugs owl
23:17 * owl hugs Mike1 
23:17 * schasi hugs all
23:17 < dexter> still 1 hour and a half to go
23:17 < dexter> gn8 schasi
23:17 < schasi> until what?
23:17 < schasi> well im not going yet
23:17 < dexter> until the download is completed
23:17 * owl hides from schasi 's hug
23:18 * schasi wants to know why owl hides
23:19 < dexter> she doesn't hug with strangers;-)
23:19 < owl> because i'm hating to be touched by people. ( esden , blindcoder and Mike1 are the only who are allowed to do)
23:20 < schasi> oh well
23:21 < Mike1> :)
23:22 < owl> shit. am i drunken *har. that will be a nice headache tomorrow. Aard - do you still have some tomaphyrin? or did fake consume all of them?
23:23 < tcr> re all
23:23 < owl> wb tcr
23:23 < dexter> hi tcr
23:24 < schasi> knoti: you there?
23:24 < owl> .oO( today is a good day *jumping around*)
23:25 < tcr> Anything interesting within the last 2hours?
23:28 < schasi> nope
23:28 < owl> hm. depends what you define as interesting :p
23:29 < dexter> i really need more bandwidth
23:29 < dexter> still 1 hour and 17 min to go
23:31 < schasi> i need a wm for mostly keyboard only. any propositions?
23:32 < dexter> wm?
23:32 < dexter> Window Manager?
23:32 < schasi> window manager/window maker
23:33 < schasi> kde is well supported and so on, but i need the mouse too often
23:34 < schasi> so i search for a good alternative
23:34 < tcr> schasi: ratpoison
23:35 < dexter> if you use only your terminal screen you don not need a mouse at all!
23:35 < tcr> It's the true one and only wm, ever.
23:35 < dexter> even mp3players can be used from the commandline
23:35 < schasi> dexter: i want to use x, off course
23:35 < schasi> i know, but i want my xmms ^^
23:35 < schasi> and something with tabs like mozilla
23:37 < dexter> uhm you can also use tabs on the commandline (hehehe)
23:38 < schasi> rofl
23:38 < schasi> i want X
23:39 < dexter> okee use X and open a terminal screen;-)
23:39 < tcr> ratpoison is a kinda rewrite of screen in the form of a window manager
23:39 < tcr> The true one and only, as I said
23:41 < owl> hm... ION too
23:41 < tcr> Nope ION isn't aimed to be a kinda screen replacement
23:42 < tcr> Though it can be entirely controlled via keyboard
23:42 < owl> hm. yes
23:43 < schasi> so what, ion or ratpoison?
23:43 < tcr> Try both.
23:44 < schasi> oh
23:44 < schasi> and if i compile rock i need ewig
23:44 < owl> *lol* denglish...
23:44 < schasi> of course
23:45 < schasi> my brain is defective
23:45 < owl> hm
23:46 < schasi> im happy if i remember the german words
23:47 < schasi> it would take ages if i compile rock
23:47 < schasi> satisfied?
23:48 < dexter> ewig habe ich auch verstanden uhm or something like that;-)
23:48 < tcr> Exactly that, was correct :)
23:50 * dexter knows some german
23:51 < dexter> 55 min to go
23:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M271P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
23:57 < Mike1> hi n00kie
23:58 < owl> hi n00kie
23:58 < dexter> hi nOOkie
23:59 < schasi> main difference between ion and ratpoison? looks the sam for me on the first look
23:59 < dexter> hmm some german influence! ... rammstein! on mp3
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