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--- Log opened Thu Jul 17 00:00:03 2003 --- Day changed Thu Jul 17 2003 00:00 < esden> fake: ahh nice so you are the third one :-> but a so big one that you can not get out of the water ;-) 00:00 < daja77> gnba day changed 00:00 < esden> daja77: such nasty things happen ... 00:00 < fake> *sigh* 00:00 < daja77> i know 00:01 < Mike1> rxr: hi 00:01 < daja77> nasty things happen when esden is around 00:01 < fake> i think i'll leave 00:01 < daja77> n8 fake :) 00:01 < rxr> -beta7 reference build: 00:01 < rxr> 1661 builds total, 534 completed fine, 9 with errors 00:01 < rxr> so far ... 00:01 < esden> fake: are you feeling bad? ... perhups a hug will help 00:01 < esden> daja77: yes I know ... I emit the nasty rays *G* 00:02 < fake> esden: shut the f*** up... err.. i mean... no, i don't think so 00:02 < fake> rxr: which fail? 00:02 < esden> fake: ROFL ... I knew you will like the idea 00:02 * fake is not in the mood for jokes 00:03 < rxr> [5] alessandro/postfix [5] sirkull/dansguardian 00:03 < rxr> [5] gnome2/gtk-perl10 [5] gnome2/gnome-nautilus22 00:03 < rxr> [5] gnome14/gimp12 [5] miguel/evolution 00:03 < rxr> [5] rene/sylpheed [5] rene/wv2 00:03 < rxr> [5] rene/avifile 00:03 < rxr> so far ... 00:03 < Mike1> 0_o evolution 00:03 < esden> fake: that is a mess 00:03 < Mike1> rxr: can i jhave ur err file for evolution please 00:03 < Mike1> rxr: also nome-nautilus22 00:04 < fake> rxr: i see no fake there, very nice. 00:04 < Mike1> rxr: i already was aware of gtk-perl10 00:04 < jsaw> I have some patches ready: wv2 (sent yesterday), gtk-perl10 and gnome-nautilus22 (waiting for finishing build) 00:04 < Mike1> jsaw: good boy 00:04 * SMP needs a 'how to make a ROCK package for beginners in 10 easy steps', can you believe that.. ;-P 00:04 < fake> SMP: here we go 00:05 < Mike1> SMP: you have to be kidding 00:05 < fake> 1) learn to read 00:05 < fake> 2) read 'UNIX in a nutshell' 00:05 < fake> ... 00:05 < fake> 3) read it again 00:05 < esden> 3) read the rock documentation 00:05 < daja77> hehe 00:05 < esden> 5) read the rocklinux source 00:06 < fake> 3.75) did you read it? 00:06 < jsaw> rxr: gconf and scrollkeeper compile but are wrong, 2 (also patches will be sent, went build finished) 00:06 < SMP> the priorities have been a complete mystery to me since the beginning 00:07 < jsaw> rxr: dansguardian is easy to fix: exchange [D] in desc file to [D] 2245120304 DansGuardian-2.6.1-3.source.tar.gz https://sun.dansguardian.org/downloads/2/Stable/ 00:07 < fake> SMP: welcome aboard. i don't get them either, but nobody complained so far ;) 00:07 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 00:08 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 00:11 * fake listening to Vangelis - Adiemus 00:11 < rxr> jsaw: ok 00:11 < SMP> svn sucks 00:12 < SMP> the metadata updates kill my harddrive 00:12 < fake> your harddrive sucks 00:12 < SMP> how did you know that? 00:12 < fake> because svn sucks, and 'gleich und gleich gesellt sich gern' ;) 00:13 * Mike1 mad at the chan. 00:13 < Mike1> cu 00:13 < fake> o_O 00:13 < fake> sorrt 00:13 < jsaw> cu Mike1 00:13 < fake> i can't translate that 00:13 < fake> something like 'great minds think alike' 00:14 < mnemoc> re 00:14 < fake> *sigh* 00:14 < daja77> fake: nope this birds of a feather flock togethter 00:14 < daja77> this is 00:15 < fake> daja77: get a cookie, grind 00:15 < fake> ;) 00:15 * daja77 gets the cookie 00:15 < rxr> jsaw: that URL is also invalid 00:16 < daja77> well I had an english teacher (from britain) who was fond of such things 00:16 < rxr> I had to update it a bit ... 00:16 < rxr> gzip->bzip2 + cksum-test: download/sirkull/dansguardian/DansGuardian-2.7.1-4.source.tar.gz 00:16 < jsaw> huh 00:16 < jsaw> changed in the last 2 hours! 00:16 < fake> daja77: lucky you 00:17 * fake made Mike1 go... -_- 00:18 < daja77> fake: that's wher the bof sessions aree based on :) 00:18 < rxr> does "vsftpd.beasts.org" work for someone here ? 00:18 < fake> nope 00:18 < SMP> isn't is supposed to be 'scary.beasts.org'? 00:19 < fake> Forbidden 00:20 < jsaw> rxr: if you're at it, can you recheck webmin cksum? 00:20 < daja77> 1why do we need that crap package anyway 00:20 < fake> vsftpd? 00:20 < daja77> webmin 00:20 < fake> ACK 00:21 < fake> webmin is one of the most 3v1l pkgs 00:21 < daja77> :) 00:21 < rxr> can someone find out the official - and working - URL for vsftpd ? 00:22 < SMP> fake: *complain* 00:23 < daja77> https://vsftpd.beasts.org/ maybe it is just temporarily down 00:23 < fake> smp: hm? 00:23 < mnemoc> Name Error: The domain name does not exist. 00:24 < SMP> fake: pri 110 for bluez-utils seems to be way too low to me 00:24 < rxr> does s.o. has that file - I could push it into the ROCK mirrors ... 00:24 < daja77> which version 00:25 < rxr> vsftpd 00:25 < daja77> wuah, which version?! 00:25 < SMP> I have it 00:25 < fake> rxr: isn't the priority altered by some script after cache file creation? 00:26 < fake> i.e. after a reference build 00:26 < SMP> pri 999 for snort / cantus are also rogue 00:26 < rxr> fake: yes it should be 00:26 < fake> SMP: :P 00:26 < SMP> so how do I chose the pri for a new package? 00:27 < rxr> SMP: put it after the last depdency of that package 00:27 < rxr> e.g. gtk+2 has 666 00:27 < rxr> and it is the last pacakge it depdends on -> 667 00:28 < rxr> they will get automatically resorted after a reference build 00:28 < SMP> rxr: https://demo.wronline.de/stefan/vsftpd-1.2.0.tar.gz 00:28 < rxr> e.g. when a updated package has a new dependency ... 00:30 < rxr> SMP: thanks on the master mirror now ... 00:31 < SMP> . o O ( hope noone finds my backdoor ;p ) 00:32 < fake> USER smp PASS smp ? 00:32 < jsaw> .oO(this sounds like a call for everybody to try to find it) 00:33 * fake just fell asleep 00:33 < fake> im going to bed, bye 00:33 < daja77> n8 fake! 00:33 < fake> and tell Mike1 i'm sorry 00:34 < rxr> SMP: the checksum seems to passed the checksum test .. 00:34 < jsaw> SMP: Apache 1.3.27? 00:35 < SMP> jsaw: in the vsftpd tarball, stupid ;) 00:36 < jsaw> SMP: ? don't understand. I was talking about your provider. 00:38 < jsaw> SMP: get them to update OpenSSL!!!!!! 00:39 < daja77> you forgot the 1 :) 00:39 < cytrinox> gn8 00:39 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B26F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:40 < SMP> jsaw: there is no problem with openssl 0.9.6e apart from some bizarre cryptographic attacs that I really don't give a shit about 00:41 < daja77> wow good attitude for an admin ... 00:42 < SMP> wow, you can recover a secret key if you make a few million requests 00:43 < daja77> which is of course totally impossibel, no? wake upo my friend 00:43 < daja77> damn tpos 00:43 < jsaw> muahahaha 00:47 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, daja77, netrunner, tfing, huebi_, ringo78, praenti, cytrinox, Freak, cchamilt, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 00:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, snyke, jose, cytrinox, tfing, mnemoc, netrunner, jsaw, kasc, daja77 (+8 more) 00:49 < daja77> n8 you all 00:49 < rxr> yes - n8 on my side, too. 00:49 < rxr> cu 00:49 < jsaw> cu daja77 ,rxr 00:49 < mnemoc> gn8 daja77, rxr 00:50 < SMP> does anyone here play ksame? ;) 00:53 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090978E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:59 < jsaw> SMP: what is ksame? 00:59 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A2A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:59 < SMP> a game, /opt/kde31/bin/ksame 01:01 < jsaw> is "Same GNOME" the same? 01:02 < SMP> yes 01:05 < jsaw> I normally play flightgear or mahjongg 01:08 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("BitchX: it makes bathtime lots of fun!") 01:16 < rxr> jes flightgear really rocks 01:17 < rxr> SMP: I'll just commit the first tiny Create-ISO improvement to ditribute the .gem files in aplphabetical order 01:17 < rxr> more specific selection (e.g. by the targets) has to be done later ... 01:17 < SMP> alphabetical? how is that an improvement? ;) 01:19 < mnemoc> rxr: how is currently done? 01:19 < mnemoc> prio? 01:19 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:19 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 01:20 < rxr> mnemoc: up to day it was random 01:21 < rxr> SMP: it was random (inode layout in FS) - so 00-sysfiles was often on disk 2 or 3 ... 01:21 < rxr> other modifications are not that easy in the current code 01:22 < rxr> I think I'll implement a new PKG tag in the iso description for this ... 01:22 < rxr> but not this week - the network config is more important .. 01:23 < mnemoc> rxr: isn't prio a better option? 01:23 < rxr> mnemoc: nope repository 01:23 < rxr> and I want to let targets change this 01:23 < rxr> but the default will be base first and gnome don't care or so 01:24 < mnemoc> gnome and kde at the end ;) 01:24 < rxr> so you get a base disk with CD1 only - and the GNOME crap can be skipped if the CD3 is missing ... 01:25 < rxr> but this will be a bigger change in the ISO creation - so the other real bug-fixes will be scheduled first .. 01:26 < mnemoc> ok 01:26 < mnemoc> rc1 for next week :) 01:26 < rxr> wow 99GB on gsmp this months so far ... 01:26 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - including really tested ISOs and hopefully RS600 support 01:26 < jsaw> wasn't it 89GB 1 or 2 days ago? 01:27 < rxr> but I'm already in bed and will sleep the book now ... 01:27 < rxr> jsaw: ... ... 01:27 < rxr> 12 Jul 2003 01:27 < rxr> 139 01:27 < rxr> 314 01:27 < rxr> 1452 01:27 < rxr> 4.40 GB 01:27 < rxr> 13 Jul 2003 01:27 < rxr> 126 01:27 < rxr> 371 01:27 < rxr> 1309 01:27 < rxr> 9.79 GB 01:27 < rxr> 14 Jul 2003 01:27 < rxr> 170 01:28 < rxr> 434 01:28 < rxr> 2045 01:28 < rxr> 11.47 GB 01:28 < rxr> 15 Jul 2003 01:28 < rxr> 170 01:28 < rxr> 428 01:28 < rxr> 1966 01:28 < rxr> 10.37 GB 01:28 < rxr> 16 Jul 2003 01:28 < rxr> 170 01:28 < rxr> 478 01:28 < rxr> 2390 01:28 < rxr> 3.78 GB 01:28 < rxr> 17 Jul 2003 01:28 < rxr> 4 01:28 < rxr> 4 01:28 < rxr> 27 01:28 < rxr> 2.88 MB 01:28 < rxr> oO - sorry I though it will paste nicer ... 01:29 < SMP> c&p from webpages _never_ works - even though it could 01:29 < rxr> so off now - cu 01:29 < jsaw> post-linux tag-downs? 01:29 < mnemoc> run rxr run 01:29 < jsaw> sleep well rxr 01:29 < rxr> jsaw: post-linux what ? 01:30 < SMP> post-LinuxTag downloads 01:30 < jsaw> merci 01:30 < rxr> jsaw: it was that high all the time ... 01:31 < jsaw> ~200G a month, who pays? 01:34 < SMP> tax-payer 01:37 < jsaw> ah, right. I forgot gsmp's domain name... 01:39 < esden> good night everyone 01:43 < jsaw> n8 esden 01:44 < jsaw> tired 2, good night 01:45 < mnemoc> jsaw: tfh-berlin.de 02:05 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-004.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:36 < mnemoc> i just realised rock has no adduser tool :-\ 02:37 < mnemoc> oh... useradd :) 02:41 < capchaos> useradd :) 02:41 < mnemoc> i have been using vi; pwconv al this time without noticing :) 03:15 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:15 < holyolli> moin 03:15 < holyolli> mike1? 03:28 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 03:29 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-004.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Temet nosce.") 03:58 < mistik1> can rocklinux be installed in full without anything KDE invovled? 03:58 < mistik1> that is no kdelibs, no kdetools, no utils that depend on it 03:59 < mistik1> I'm looking to replace all my distros, i want nothing at all to do with KDE, that is I dont even want mention of it installed on my boxes not even a readme 04:04 < mnemoc> mistik1: of course 04:04 < mnemoc> you can *build* a rock with no kde related stuff 04:06 < mnemoc> just adding '- kde31/*' to your package selector (pkgsel) 04:06 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DE9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:07 < mistik1> mnemoc: thank you much 04:07 < mistik1> I'll be checking it out on a PII 333MHz that has become free and go from there 04:08 < mnemoc> if you have anyproblem adding that line don't doubt to come to ask ;) 04:09 < mistik1> ;-) 04:10 < mistik1> was it you I was talking to my fist day here about a uClibc target 04:10 < mistik1> I am very interested in this 04:11 < mistik1> more so than even going full distro right now 04:12 < mnemoc> the idea is to add uclibc as a package for any target which want to use it... 04:12 < mistik1> hmm 04:12 < mnemoc> then you can do a target (sub-distro) in your own way ;) 04:12 < mistik1> lemme explain a little of what I need to do.... 04:13 < mnemoc> go on 04:13 < mistik1> I have a little OS i'm working on geared towards being a firewall/gateway appliance... 04:14 < mistik1> I have a prototype system setup that was based on debian which works well but is still too large for my needs 04:14 < mistik1> I figure from what I have been reading regards to how rock works I could use uClibc to build what I needed fairly easily 04:15 < SMP> use OpenBSD / MicroBSD ;) 04:15 < mistik1> I NOT want BSD at all 04:15 < mistik1> I want linux 04:16 < mistik1> I have no love for ipfw/ipnat 04:16 < mnemoc> mistik1: you first have to add uclibc package with a parse-config to patch the three versions of gcc 04:17 < mnemoc> then a config module to disable glibc 04:17 < SMP> mistik1: OpenBSD's pf really kicks the heck out of ipfw/ipf/netfilter ;) 04:18 < mistik1> yea yea 04:18 < mnemoc> then a good package selection for your target, with proper flistdel filters, and you will be done 04:18 < mistik1> I have run OpenBSD firewalls, they are ok but I find it as limiting to the user as the cracker 04:18 < SMP> well all my servers run ROCK, but if it filters packets, then it's OpenBSD 04:19 < mnemoc> SMP, you are not good for PR :-\ 04:19 < mistik1> SMP: that was the case for me when I was running 2.0.x servers 04:19 < SMP> because I don't tell any lies? ;) 04:20 < SMP> netfilter just sucks balls 04:20 < mistik1> I dont see where OpenBSD now has anything on netfilter imho 04:20 < mistik1> I've been over this with guys that do nothing but design obsd firewalls 04:21 < mistik1> most my buds all run BSD of some type 04:22 < mnemoc> SMP: you could add BSD stuff in your own repo and create a RockBSD ;) 04:22 < mistik1> mnemoc: can I dcc you something? 04:23 < mnemoc> mail 04:23 < SMP> well, in ROCK 2.1 the FreeBSD Kernel is supposed to appear as an alternative to Linux :) 04:33 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: huebi_, Freak 04:33 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak, huebi_ 05:29 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EF7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:40 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:38 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M269P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:06 < blindcoder> moin 07:14 < n00kie_> Moin bliindy 07:14 < n00kie_> blindy 07:17 < blindcoder> hi n00kie_ 07:17 < n00kie_> Lazy Tabuser ;-) 07:17 < blindcoder> sure ^^ 07:48 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, daja77, netrunner, mnemoc 07:53 -!- daja77 [[81wgigMO6@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc 07:58 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E235.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:58 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508022BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:01 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018594.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:13 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, jsaw 08:17 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, jsaw 08:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jsaw, netrunner 08:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jsaw, netrunner 08:21 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, jsaw 08:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: netrunner, jsaw 09:12 -!- joss [mart193@dhcp-17-170.cable.infonet.ee] has joined #rocklinux 09:13 < joss> seems like a good work, is the emerge-pkg really allready available in beta8 :)? 09:13 < joss> beta7 sorry 09:14 < joss> what abou precompiled ones, also with dep support? and also vailable to download them in rock? 09:18 -!- dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-105.client.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:18 < dewey> good day mates 09:18 < dewey> I am trying to d/l 2.0.0 beta4+ but 1st cd comes up weith wrong md5sum? 09:20 < blindcoder> the beta4 got modified short after release 09:20 < blindcoder> seems like rxr didn't update the md5sum after that. 09:20 < blindcoder> there was an error which prevented it from booting 09:20 < dewey> so what is the md5sum for cd1? 09:21 < dewey> hmm ok 09:21 < dewey> so bag 2.0.0-4 and go with 2.0.0-3? 09:24 < joss> dewey hoe do you download precompiled gems with rock? 09:25 < joss> possible? 09:26 < dewey> ? 09:26 < joss> in rock, with ime for an example, so if someone is compiled rock sources for 686 archdicture for an example will be there a possibility to download those gem-s with dep support in rock? 09:27 < dewey> I have no idea I am new to rock 09:27 < blindcoder> dewey: no, you can use 2.0.0-4 as it is now 09:29 < joss> blindecoder: what about those precompiled gems, possible to download with dep check? 09:30 < blindcoder> dep check, no. download, yes. 09:30 < blindcoder> right now, there is no system for checking runtime dependencies. 09:31 < esden> good morning everyone 09:31 < esden> *yawn* 09:31 < blindcoder> moin esden 09:31 < blindcoder> esden: can you take oer here? I'd like to get breakfast ^^ 09:32 < dewey> blindcoder: ok I am d/l cd1 again from a different mirror I think and differwent md5sum. 09:32 < n00kie_> Moin Esden :) 09:32 < n00kie_> Sleeped good? 09:32 < esden> oer? 09:32 < esden> blindcoder: I leave to munich in half an hour 09:32 < n00kie_> Have fun, esden 09:32 < esden> n00kie_: yes thank you ... but not long enough 09:33 < n00kie_> hehe 09:33 < esden> n00kie_: and you? 09:33 < n00kie_> Well, just 4hrs 09:33 < n00kie_> damn "hitze" 09:33 < n00kie_> tropical weather 09:33 < esden> n00kie_: I can sleep in every condition 09:33 < dewey> I did have the right cd1 just the wrong md5sum from the one site I used for my d/l. 09:33 < dewey> well, I am off to bed bbl 09:33 -!- dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-105.client.comcast.net] has quit ("Good day mates!") 09:34 < daja77> moin 09:34 < n00kie_> morning daja :) 09:34 < esden> moin daja77!!! *hug* 09:34 < n00kie_> How are you, Daniel? 09:34 < daja77> fine, Daniel 09:34 < daja77> hi esden *rehug* 09:34 < joss> blincoder: gem download from where https://............... 09:34 < joss> ? 09:35 < joss> just with brwoswer you mean? 09:35 < esden> joss: file:///usr/local/data/rock-trunk/build/... 09:35 < joss> browser 09:35 < esden> joss: file:///usr/local/data/rock-trunk/build/packages/ 09:35 < fake> morning 09:36 < esden> morning fake! 09:36 < n00kie_> moin fake 09:36 < n00kie_> Everybody stands up 09:30 09:36 * fake did stand up at 6:50 09:36 < daja77> na /me awake since 9:00 09:36 < fake> s,stand up,get up, 09:36 < daja77> fake: haha 09:36 < joss> esden: so what is the script to download those packages file:///usr/local/data/rock-trunk/build/packages/..? 09:36 < n00kie_> Everybody comes here at 09:30 ;) 09:36 < fake> i have to travel to work every morning... 09:36 < n00kie_> Where do you live and where do you work? 09:37 < fake> ingolstadt <-> munich 09:37 < daja77> so yuo are sleepy too today? 09:37 < esden> ok ... I get some food 09:37 < esden> cu l8er 09:37 < n00kie_> Oh, that's a bit away 09:37 < joss> essden: and can this script list all gem packages available to dwonload? 09:37 < n00kie_> bye esden 09:37 < fake> i had my guarana injection already. 09:37 < daja77> don't let esden excape with the food 09:38 < joss> I had a knee operation yestirday :) 09:38 < daja77> *gnarf* we currently do not offer gems over the net 09:39 < fake> i thought there were loopback-mounted isos on the server now? 09:39 < daja77> really 09:39 * daja77 checking 09:39 < n00kie_> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/x86/pkgs/ 09:40 < n00kie_> But I guess not the actual wrong 09:40 < daja77> ic 09:41 < daja77> ah cool 09:43 * blindcoder back 09:43 * blindcoder awake since 04:20, so stfu 09:45 < daja77> *yawn* 09:53 < ringo78> moin daja77 09:53 < Freak> ack. 09:53 < Freak> yawn2 09:54 < daja77> hi ringo78 :) 09:55 < ringo78> hi daja77 have you any sugs on dualbooting xp/rock ? 09:56 < daja77> well I currently doin this on my sisters box 09:56 < ringo78> you installed xp then you installed grub with some params ? 09:57 < daja77> I did normal grub install with stone 09:57 < daja77> afterwards I edited menu.lst 09:58 < ringo78> thanks I´ll try that hopefully I´ll be able to boot xp again ... 09:59 < daja77> sure you'll do, just need an appropriate entry 10:01 * daja77 laughing about the pongo thread 10:02 < n00kie_> Has Linux 2.2.25 has the large file support option ? 10:05 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018594.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:07 < daja77> 2.2.25??! 10:08 < daja77> maybe you should consult the changelogs 10:12 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.219] has joined #rocklinux 10:12 -!- rolla_ [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:13 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:13 < d3mian> hi 10:13 < daja77> hi d3mian 10:22 -!- d3mian is now known as Demian 10:25 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.193.225.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 10:33 < Demian> mails answered.. cya later 10:33 -!- Demian [~demian@196.40.64.219] has left #rocklinux () 10:38 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2932.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 10:38 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B2932.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:39 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:39 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 10:39 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:57 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:58 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M269P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 11:08 < rxr> re 11:08 < esden> re rxr 11:11 < daja77> hi rxr 11:16 < rxr> hi esden daja77 11:18 < joss> rxr: beta7 isos somewhere? 11:20 < rxr> joss: no - it is _only_ an intermediate milestone for reference 11:21 < rxr> wi will have a -rc1 next week and create and verify ISOs for this upcomming release 11:21 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FA17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:21 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801F34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958FA17.dip.t-dialin.net))) 11:21 < rxr> s/wi/we/ ... 11:21 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:23 < daja77> oh that reminds me of doin a new build 11:27 < rxr> joss: you can savely take the -beta6 or wait for the -rc1 (or an unofficial -beta7 ... 11:30 < cytrinox> hi 11:30 * fake is deprecated 11:31 < rxr> Freak: why ? 11:31 < rxr> s.th. with a mips box ? 11:32 < fake> no, i am just plain deprecated 11:32 < fake> ;) 11:38 < daja77> hmm birthday? 11:38 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 11:38 < daja77> :) 11:39 < daja77> download/alessandro/webmin/webmin-1.100.tar.bz2.incomplete: ASCII English text 11:39 < daja77> ERROR: File type does not match filename (bzip2 compressed data)! 11:39 < daja77> >_< 11:40 < blindcoder> okay, the lpp ypackage should work now. Damn (l)User errors >_< 11:41 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B2932.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb, 2.4.21-ben2") 11:41 < daja77> damn webmin luser package 11:41 < blindcoder> rxr: did you read my question yesterday? 11:42 < blindcoder> rxr: regarding pre/post.conf inclusion? 11:43 < fake> rxr: no 11:43 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B2932.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:46 < rxr> email an ct@ctmagazin.de ist raus ... 11:46 < rxr> blindcoder: here on irc ? 11:46 < rxr> we have now "846 11:46 < rxr> " packages ... 11:49 < rxr> fake: bluez-pan fails missing bluez-lib 11:49 < rxr> also it should have been there ... 11:50 < daja77> weeee suif now ruinning under rock 11:50 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FA05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:50 < daja77> running *ggg* 11:50 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FA17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958FA05.dip.t-dialin.net))) 11:50 < fake> rxr: huh? 11:50 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:50 < fake> strange 11:51 < blindcoder> indeed 11:51 < fake> can i have .err file? and .log of bluez-libs 11:52 < rxr> I already deleted it so the package got rebuild 11:53 < rxr> the error message was in the configure complainign about eh bluetooth heder missing 11:53 < rxr> ahd that I should install bluez-lib 11:53 < rxr> the priority looks ok - and rebuild of bluez-pan worked fine ... 11:53 < daja77> bbl 11:53 < rxr> strange 11:56 < rxr> ah the error messasge seems to be wrong 11:56 < rxr> it needs bluez-sdp 11:56 < rxr> I'll adjut the P 11:56 < fake> oh 11:56 < fake> yeah 11:56 < fake> right... 11:56 < fake> >_< 11:57 < blindcoder> rxr: yes, I just want to know if I should bug the mailinglist with the {pre,post}.conf thing again or if I should wait until 2.1 is started 11:57 < rxr> blindcoder: no - can be in 2.0 11:57 < rxr> in generally we plan to integrate new features in a shorted time - and not to let the stable / dev tree to dift too much 11:58 < rxr> just adding one feature and stabelize is easier than adding and rewriting 30 features and stabelize ... 11:58 < blindcoder> rxr: okay, I'll create a patch as soon as this Create-ISO is done 11:59 < rxr> 1661 builds total, 576 completed fine, 12 with errors. 11:59 < rxr> me having breakfast -cu 11:59 < blindcoder> One hour left until I can go home and mount my DVD-Writer into my system! WOOHOOO! 11:59 < blindcoder> rxr: an guadn! 12:01 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B1F6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:18 < rxr> fuck - typos in the c't mail ... 12:20 < blindcoder> hmm... okay, that's worse than a `vim rock.diff` in state 'D' :/ 12:20 < rxr> mails to iX and Linux Magazin with less typos out ... 12:21 < blindcoder> ^^ 12:25 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x36.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:25 < blindcoder> what do you write them? 12:26 < dreamind> moin 12:26 < dreamind> err hi I meant ;) 12:26 < blindcoder> moin dreamind 12:28 < fake> does anybody here have experience with nsapi / mod_jk for iplanet? 12:28 < blindcoder> no 12:30 * dreamind is just re-thinking about xfs... 12:30 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E235.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:41 < blindcoder> I had a few problems with xfs when installing a minimal target this week 12:41 < blindcoder> during installation, I get the choice to use XFS 12:42 < blindcoder> but when I choose it, the FS seems to be created, but it cannot be mounted >_< 12:43 < blindcoder> anyway, /me going home 12:43 < blindcoder> baba 12:55 < rxr> blindcoder: jups not kernel support in 2.4 IIRC ... 12:58 < rxr> wow - already a reply from linuxmagazin ded ... 13:00 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD9E1C68E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:00 * rxr at work - cu 13:01 < dreamind> Hi huebi 13:10 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:11 -!- kaerF [~freak@p508B1C1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:12 < tcr> moin all 13:12 < daja77> hi tcr 13:12 < fake> hi 13:12 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9E1C027.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:12 < daja77> moin kaerF 13:13 * daja77 off again 13:17 < tcr> Does anyone happen to know what pci specification version modern mainboards have? 13:19 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B2932.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:22 < fake> PCI 2.1 or some X 13:22 < fake> iirc 13:24 < tcr> Hmm. That's what my ancient mainboard has, but I'm told that the USB add-in card (I bought) doesn't work because of a voltage issue (which derives from the old pci version that board has) 13:25 < fake> o_O 13:25 < fake> the voltage shouldn't have changed throughout the PCI revisions 13:25 < fake> read: "backward compatibility" 13:26 < tcr> Yeah, I thought that myself. Maybe that guy meant bus frequency or something 13:27 < tcr> I want to buy another card now, that _does_ work with my mainboard, and so I'm atm collecting information... 13:27 < fake> hm, 33MHz ? 13:28 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018594.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:29 < kaerF> jo re 13:32 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 13:32 < tcr> fake: Uhm, just found out that the manual I have is the manual of a newer version of the motherboard :-/ So I must continue searching the right one 13:39 < tcr> fake: Yep, 33mhz 14:00 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, knoti, rolla_ 14:03 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: netrunner 14:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: knoti, rolla_ 14:04 -!- rolla_ [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:17 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:19 -!- joss [mart193@dhcp-17-170.cable.infonet.ee] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:22 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-8-100.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:22 < DeElsasser> bonjour tout le monde ;-) 14:24 < fake> hi 14:24 < daja77> bonjour DeElsasser 14:25 < DeElsasser> hi fake 14:25 < DeElsasser> hi daja77 14:25 < daja77> *aaaargl* damn mirror detection 14:26 < DeElsasser> fake: can you send me your kernel 2.6 config file, I have definitively no pseudo-tty 14:26 < DeElsasser> deelsasser@wanadoo.fr 14:28 < fake> DeElsasser: sent 14:28 < DeElsasser> fake: thx 14:29 < DeElsasser> an other think who is misterious in 2.5 and 2.6, the matrox framebuffer doesn't work like 2.4... 14:30 < fake> the framebuffer layer has been completely rewritten 14:30 < DeElsasser> but the generic framebuffer do it, the matrox not 14:35 < kaerF> *idle* 14:35 < daja77> :P 14:36 < rolla> re 14:36 < daja77> hi rolla 14:36 < fake> wee 14:36 < fake> it works 14:37 < fake> so that iplanet crap can be kicked to be of some use finally 14:37 < daja77> applause 14:39 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:40 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:05 < mistik1> re guys 15:05 -!- kaerF [~freak@p508B1C1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 15:06 -!- Freak [freak@p508B1C1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 < jsaw> re 15:32 < daja77> re jsaw 15:32 < jsaw> hi daja77 15:32 < jsaw> was geht? 15:32 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 15:34 * daja77 now off to work 15:34 < daja77> cu l8r 15:35 < jsaw> cu 15:44 -!- aszlig is now known as tijakhul 15:49 < rolla> :) 15:55 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FA05.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:16 < jsaw> anybody using gcc 3.3.x here? 16:20 < rolla> nope 16:31 < knoti> hiho 16:31 < knoti> daja could you do me a favour ? 16:33 < mnemoc> re 16:33 < mnemoc> jsaw: i use gcc33 exclusively 16:35 -!- Satg [~satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 < knoti> fake: Can you do me a favour ? 16:39 < Mike1> good day all. 16:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: can compile the following prog: int main() { unused_label: __attribute__((unused)) return 0; } with g++ 16:42 < jsaw> please? 16:42 < mnemoc> ok 16:42 < mnemoc> w8 16:43 < jsaw> (should work with gcc btw) 16:47 < fake> knoti: what? 16:49 < knoti> fake: Could you download gopenhbci per cvs tar it up and send me the ball by mail ? 16:50 < knoti> fake: would be -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.gopenhbci.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gopenhbci co gopenhbci 16:50 < knoti> fake: login no password 16:50 < knoti> fake: my cvs seems broken 16:51 < jsaw> cu l8r 16:51 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:51 < fake> cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) 16:52 < Mike1> very common problem with sourceforge now days.. 16:55 < knoti> fake: That's what I got hmm . 16:55 < knoti> fake: Maybe they don't even have files in their repository lol 16:55 < knoti> fake: Thank you. 16:56 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-8-100.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:05 < daja77> re 17:06 < Mike1> daja77. 17:06 < daja77> hey Mike1 17:07 < daja77> dia crashes on rtrock ... 17:08 < daja77> weee I can now svn up from the box I am working on here 17:09 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F9B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506B57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 < jsaw> re 17:10 < blindcoder> di 17:10 < Mike1> ni hao. 17:10 < daja77> you are the knight that always say ni *gg* 17:11 < jsaw> grueetzi midanand 17:11 < daja77> omg 17:11 < jsaw> hehe 17:11 < Mike1> daja77: i was just saying hi 17:11 * blindcoder now testing his new toy ^^ 17:12 < blindcoder> Mike1: konban wa! 17:12 < Mike1> daja77: at least blindy did understood me 17:12 < Mike1> blindcoder: ni meil hao? 17:12 < jsaw> Mike1: so was I. 17:12 < blindcoder> sure did ^^ 17:12 < Mike1> jsaw: great :) 17:12 < blindcoder> Mike1: sorry, my understanding of chinese is VERY limited 17:12 < daja77> jsaw: hope you don't mind if I don't build your repo in rtrock 17:12 < Mike1> blindcoder: i said how are you 17:13 < jsaw> Mike1: (but "ni hao" was all I can say in chineese) 17:13 < blindcoder> Mike1: great ^^ qust did some hardware thing with high hack-value and am now testing my DVD-Writer ^^ 17:13 < Mike1> jsaw: hehe 17:13 < jsaw> daja77: why should you? It's all marked O, so... 17:13 < daja77> O_o 17:13 < Mike1> blindcoder: dvd writter.. lucky bastard 17:13 < Mike1> daja77: jsaw packages are disabled by default 17:14 < daja77> ic 17:14 < daja77> well kasc repo then ... 17:14 < blindcoder> Mike1: harr harr 17:14 < daja77> blindcoder: so you can make clones of the knoppix dvd 17:15 < blindcoder> daja77: hrm, I hoped to make some Anime-DVDs and ROCK-DVDs ^^ 17:15 < daja77> rock dvds cool 17:16 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Create-ISO -size 4000 dvd bootdisk minimal default 17:16 < blindcoder> talking about minimal target... 17:16 < daja77> hehe 17:16 < blindcoder> Mike1: you're in charge of it, aren't you? 17:16 * Mike1 hides 17:16 < Mike1> maybe 17:16 < Mike1> :) 17:16 < blindcoder> Mike1: I take that for a yes ^^ 17:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: anything i can do for you ? 17:17 < blindcoder> Mike1: don't you think it's disturbing to build a minimal target and the get asked if you want to make a minimal install for servers or a full install for workstations? 17:18 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 < Aard> hi 17:18 < daja77> hi Aard 17:19 < blindcoder> hi Aard 17:19 < Mike1> blindcoder: yes i do 17:19 < Mike1> i hate that, i need to make fix for this 17:20 < blindcoder> Mike1: as far as I saw it that is currentrly hardcoded into bootdisk... 17:20 < Mike1> hi Aard 17:20 < Mike1> blindcoder: yes 17:21 < Mike1> blindcoder: i will have to discuss this with rxr, as this "feature" applies only for generic and desktop 17:21 < Mike1> i asume he made it thinking about desktop... only.. 17:24 < blindcoder> Mike1: we all make mistakes. 17:24 < Mike1> blindcoder: sure 17:24 < Mike1> blindcoder: but the good thing is that this kind of mistakes can be fixed 17:24 < Mike1> :) 17:24 * daja77 currently doin some ... 17:26 < Mike1> blindcoder: i don't b;ame him, by the time this was implemented only desktop and generic existed 17:26 < Mike1> s/b;ame/blame 17:26 < Mike1> ping esden 17:26 < blindcoder> Mike1: yes. I just noticed, because for my lpp-tests I use the minimal target 17:27 < Mike1> blindcoder: ver cool, i feel honored 17:27 < Mike1> minimal is still too fat, i will work on making it smaller during the week 17:32 < blindcoder> hehe, good ^^ 17:33 < Mike1> blindcoder: when ur lpp work be available 17:33 < Mike1> i wanna test it over :) 17:33 < blindcoder> as soon as I install the current ISO 17:33 < blindcoder> I think I've fixed the final problem 17:33 < blindcoder> and you will need the {pre,post}.conf feature which rene said he'll include in 2.0 ^^ 17:33 < Mike1> blindcoder: very good, would you share ur current iso with me? 17:33 < blindcoder> Mike1: sure, just a moment 17:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: :) 17:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: just put it on my home dir at ur host 17:34 < Mike1> i can rsync it over to me.. 17:34 < blindcoder> Mike1: jupp 17:34 < blindcoder> Mike1: but it's still some 200 MB 17:34 < Mike1> i can wait till you go to bed.. 17:34 < Mike1> :) 17:35 < Mike1> so you keep ur badnwidth 17:35 < Mike1> bandwidth 17:35 < blindcoder> thanks ^^ 17:35 < blindcoder> I think that'll be un 4-5 hours 17:35 < Mike1> just let me know when is up, and when i can start syncing it 17:36 < Mike1> ok no problem 17:37 < blindcoder> *LOL* 17:37 < blindcoder> what a define :D 17:37 < blindcoder> #define AUINFO 17:38 < blindcoder> makes on the compiler: 17:38 < blindcoder> gcc -DAUINFO 17:38 < daja77> LOL 17:38 < blindcoder> Mike1: 263 MB, in your ${HOME} 17:39 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9018594.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:40 < Mike1> blindcoder: ok, i will wait till you let me start syncing. 17:42 < blindcoder> Mike1: ok. 18:01 < daja77> *yawn* 18:08 < mnemoc> yawn? 18:10 < daja77> yepp boring downloads ... 18:10 < daja77> hi mnemoc btw :) 18:12 < mnemoc> hi bored daja77 18:12 < rolla> yawn 18:12 < mnemoc> rolla??? 18:12 < daja77> :) 18:13 < daja77> rolla yawns at rh I guess 18:13 < mnemoc> rolla: how can you be that bored this early? 18:22 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 18:22 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:23 < rolla> mnemoc: it is not early 18:27 < mnemoc> mm 10am there? 18:28 < Mike1> lazy asses, stop yawning, start coding. 18:29 -!- Satg [~satg@196.40.66.18] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:30 < mnemoc> code code code!! 18:31 < rolla> nope 18:31 < rolla> 11:36 18:35 < daja77> Mike1: :P 18:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F9B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:40 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x36.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (":x") 18:45 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FFD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:45 < blindcoder> okay, this DVD-R(W?) drive is deinately strange 18:47 < blindcoder> DVD-RAM: works 18:47 < blindcoder> DVD-R: works 18:47 < blindcoder> DVD-RW: doesn't work (with the DVD-RW that came packaged with the drive) 18:54 < Freak> hehe 18:54 < daja77> hey Freak still here *ggg* 18:54 * daja77 hides 18:54 < Freak> I will definitely hurt ixs. 18:55 * netrunner back, heating the oven for pizza and the two athlons for rock building :) 18:55 < Freak> hehehe 18:55 < daja77> hmm got group sex invitation spam ... 18:55 < Freak> hehe 19:00 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 19:00 < netrunner> daja77: where? I'll join! 19:00 < daja77> should I forward it to you 19:00 < A-Tui> hi 19:01 < daja77> hi A-Tui 19:01 < A-Tui> hola daja77 19:02 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FFD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("testing ROCK-DVD") 19:03 < daja77> lots of download problems today ... 19:04 < rolla> suck 19:04 < rolla> !> No free loopback device found! 19:04 < netrunner> argl, I _hate_ people sending pictures embedded in .doc 19:04 < netrunner> (even if they always supply beer) 19:04 < rolla> ha ha 19:05 < christ|an> Well - let me say to everyone "hi". Now I have got a question. I wanna use the "locate" command. But at first i have to run the "updatedb" command as root. Well - i have typed "su" - then i entered my root passwd. Then i typed "updatedb" an i got the following output: bash-2.05b# updatedb 19:05 < christ|an> /usr/bin/updatedb: line 125: /usr/bin/find: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden 19:05 < christ|an> bash-2.05b# ----------------------------> How can i solve this problem? 19:07 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F75D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:07 < blindcoder> WOOOHOOOOOO! 19:07 < christ|an> hi blindcoder 19:07 < blindcoder> PH34R M4 1337 N3KK1D $K1LLZ! 19:08 < blindcoder> hi christ|an 19:08 < christ|an> lol blindcoder 19:08 * blindcoder just successfully created a ROCK ISO with bootdisk, generic and minimal target (size: 1.7 GB) 19:08 < blindcoder> wrote it to a DVD-R 19:08 < blindcoder> and booted it ^^ 19:09 < blindcoder> anyone wants some ROCK-DVDs ? 19:10 < SMP> *sigh* 19:11 * SMP wishes, package authors cared to take a look at the flist before they're 'done' 19:11 < SMP> now I have /usr/include/CVS/ 19:13 < blindcoder> SMP: which package? 19:13 < SMP> openh323 19:13 < blindcoder> hrm 19:14 < SMP> from pwlib, cp -rf include/* /usr/include/ 19:15 < SMP> I seriously think we need to get away from automatic flists and have packages specifiy exactly which files to expect (like rpm) and shoot the author if another file pops up 19:16 < SMP> I have found way too many weird files in the last weeks 19:16 < blindcoder> shooting the auther sounds like fun ^^ :) 19:16 < blindcoder> even though I run the risk of suicide ^^ 19:18 < SMP> hmm, there is even code in openh323.conf to avoid this 19:29 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4D0D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:29 < dennis> hi 19:29 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508338A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:30 < Mike1> hi SMP 19:32 < blindcoder> Mike1: wb 19:33 < Mike1> thanks. 19:33 < Mike1> :) 19:33 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:34 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.218.11.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:37 < fake> re 19:37 < daja77> wb fake 19:37 < Mike1> fake. 19:37 < fake> Mike1: hi... 19:38 < fake> Mike1: i'll be quiet today 19:38 < Mike1> ... 19:38 < fake> i promise 19:38 < Mike1> fake: lol 19:38 < Mike1> fake: ah well it was nice seen you talking yesterday 19:38 < Mike1> ur quite most of the times 19:39 < fake> Mike1: don't fool the weak ;) 19:39 < Mike1> fake: do you think i would fake you ? 19:39 < Mike1> :) 19:41 < fake> that's a philosophical question. if you fake a fake, is it a fake? 19:42 < Mike1> depends on the kind of fake use to fake the fake, as well as the fake procedure, its really faking process you know what i mean 19:44 < fake> yeah, all shady and evil powers and stuff. i know. the dark side... 19:44 < Mike1> so do i.. 19:44 < Mike1> :) 19:44 < fake> *blink* 19:44 < Mike1> but aseriously is nice to see you talking here. 19:45 < fake> however it has nothing to do with rocklinux 19:45 < fake> which is a serious fault. 19:45 < fake> thus, i will no go, and stop talking unimportant fluff 19:46 * fake :-Q 19:48 < Mike1> fake: yes maybe you are talking to much, ... code :) 19:52 < Mike1> anyways i'm going to bed in a few minutes 19:54 < daja77> n8 Mike1 19:54 < Mike1> man i can't believe this... 19:54 < Mike1> Thu Jul 17 11:49:58 CST 2003 19:55 < blindcoder> Thu Jul 17 19:56:07 CEST 2003 19:56 < Mike1> n8 all 19:56 < blindcoder> n8 mike 19:58 < SMP> $ TZ=America/Costa_Rica date 19:58 < SMP> Thu Jul 17 11:54:34 CST 2003 19:58 < SMP> huh? ;) 19:58 < Mike1> SMP: don't even ask :) 19:59 < rolla> damn 19:59 < SMP> well, could be me, going to bed at that time ;) 20:00 < Mike1> SMP: sure, who do you think i've learned from? 20:01 < Mike1> :) 20:01 < SMP> ;-O 20:01 < Mike1> SMP: yes from you :P 20:01 < Mike1> anyways i am off 20:01 < Mike1> cu all 20:01 < SMP> n8 Mike 20:06 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has quit ("Changing server") 20:15 < A-Tui> which is the script who exactly build each package in a non parallel build? 20:15 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508338A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("tschaule") 20:17 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4D0D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:18 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 20:26 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < fake> A-Tui: Build-Pkg ? 20:28 < christ|an> re 20:28 < A-Tui> fake: yes, i know, but when i call Build-Target, it call pkgloop from config/$config/config 20:29 < A-Tui> and then, how is called Build-Pkg? 20:29 < A-Tui> i can't find the call 20:29 < fake> A-Tui: hm... 20:30 < A-Tui> it that function i saw the section for the PARALLEL build 20:31 < A-Tui> and after that, i supposed that it would call the Build-Pkg for normal build, but i'm so confused now :) 20:31 < fake> pkgloop_package ? 20:32 < fake> The call is constructed in line 279 20:32 < A-Tui> yes, but when and where it's made call for that function 20:32 < A-Tui> ahh ok 20:32 < A-Tui> i'm going to look 20:33 < fake> line 329 20:33 < fake> pkgloop_action. 20:34 < A-Tui> mmm thanks i will search there, and one more thing, the cross-enveironment is build with the same invocation as the other packages? 20:35 -!- Scandium [~scandium@p50808B3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 < Scandium> hi 20:36 < fake> first it creates it's dirs, then it evals the cmd 20:36 < fake> err 20:36 < fake> no, last time i checked, it was all done sequentially in Build-CrossCC 20:36 < A-Tui> aha, ok, thanks fake :) 20:36 < fake> ah 20:36 < fake> no 20:36 < fake> that has changed 20:37 < fake> there is no Build-CrossCC anymore, as i just noticed ;) 20:37 < A-Tui> it's true 20:38 < mnemoc> Build-CrosssCC was removed when pseudo-cross compiler become stage 0 20:38 < A-Tui> then how is called? 20:38 < mnemoc> what? 20:38 < fake> A-Tui: there is no explicit build of a pseudocross anymore 20:39 < fake> it is built in the normal stage 0 progress 20:39 < fake> which makes sense ;) 20:39 * fake now off 20:39 < mnemoc> BuildPkg is called from Build-Target as cmd_buildpkg 20:39 < A-Tui> fake: ok, that's i want know 20:39 < mnemoc> brb 20:40 < A-Tui> yes mnemoc, i saw that 20:43 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508022BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:45 < Scandium> Is there a somewhat more technical explanation of what dRock aims to be ? I can't find any information about what is really different to "plain" rock only that it's desktop oriented etc. etc. but no facts about what really differs - or am I just blind and not seeing the right link ? ;) 20:45 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080213C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:46 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 20:51 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 20:53 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:00 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 21:00 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:13 -!- NUMA [~stefanp@80.65.41.2] has joined #rocklinux 21:16 -!- NUMA is now known as SMP 21:19 < knoti> So, now the "Merkbefreiung" in the format of a bizcard can be downloaded from lart.info/~boesewolf merkbefreiung.ps is the front side, merkbefreiung1.ps is the backside. 21:20 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:20 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 < knoti> It's the first version, so stay tuned :) 21:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA735.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:23 < daja77> knoti: lol 21:25 < mnemoc> Scandium: still waiting for your answer? 21:26 < Scandium> mnemoc: well, if you have one: shoot ;) 21:26 < mnemoc> rock is not a distro... there is no 'plain rock' distro to install 21:27 < mnemoc> rock is a kit to mix packages and features in a custom distribution (target) 21:27 < mnemoc> drock is one of those targets, desktop oriented 21:28 < mnemoc> there are rock targets to build routers, servers, etc... 21:28 < mnemoc> and of course your own 21:28 < tcr> moin all 21:28 < mnemoc> moin tcr 21:28 < daja77> huhu tcr 21:30 < mnemoc> Scandium: what you can confuse with a 'plain rock' is the generic target, which includes almost every package available in rock 21:31 < Scandium> mnemoc: so in fact, dRock ist just a certain subset of packages with a certain configuration and not a subset which includes extra tools etc. ? 21:32 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/ 21:32 < daja77> subset with extra tools, oxymoron detected 21:32 < mnemoc> :) 21:32 < Scandium> ;) 21:32 < mnemoc> i guess drock is kde based 21:33 < mnemoc> with everything you may need in your desktop 21:33 < daja77> nope you can choose and gnome is default afaik 21:33 < netrunner> a lot of games :) 21:33 < daja77> yepp 21:33 < tcr> Scandium: In past it was slightly different to main rock, but most things (if not all) got merged in the course of time 21:33 < daja77> which I threw out of rtrock today 21:33 < mnemoc> daja77: rxr and gnome by default?? isn't that a conflict? ;) -><- 21:34 < daja77> the last time I tried drock it was gnome, could have changed in the meantime 21:35 * mnemoc had never used drock :| 21:35 < daja77> think I'll stick with generic 21:36 < daja77> wow linux26 compiles 21:36 < mnemoc> :o 21:36 < daja77> I threw this out in rtrock too ... 21:37 < daja77> hope build finishes over the weekend 21:37 < mnemoc> daja77: will you 'release' rtai as package or just for THAT target? 21:38 < daja77> both 21:38 < daja77> you can add rt functionality in other targets as well 21:39 < mnemoc> good :) 21:39 < mnemoc> that's the first step to rock powered airplains ;) 21:39 < daja77> uh bad idea 21:40 * tcr gets a midlife crisis... updated BIOS as well as motherboard driver, but that stupid usb add-in card doesn't still work (well devices plugged into it, that's it). BMust be definitively because of the old mainboard (though I can't really see why it should be a "voltage issue" as he's told by some guy) 21:40 < tcr> bah, changed between first and third person flippantly 21:40 < mnemoc> update your power supply and see :) 21:41 * daja77 notes that tcr will have a short life 21:41 < tcr> mnemoc: Well I'm told that the pci version is too old and between that one and the new one is a voltage issue 21:42 < tcr> Besides, devices plugged into the card do get electricity (leds blink) 21:42 < daja77> old hw sucks, that's it, I hate it to have to dealk with such stuff 21:42 < tcr> No it does only suck if it doesn't work ;) 21:43 < mnemoc> the admin sucks, not the hw 21:43 < tcr> :P 21:44 * tcr wishes mnemoc thousand and one deseases! 21:44 * daja77 off 21:44 < tcr> cu daja77 21:44 < mnemoc> :( 21:44 < mnemoc> cu daja77 21:47 * tcr shower 21:58 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508338A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:08 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA735.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:09 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA735.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:32 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA735.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.") 22:40 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:40 < owl> hi 22:40 < owl> is there a special order i have to write in config.in... ? 22:42 < mnemoc> what do u what to do? 22:42 < mnemoc> want 22:42 < owl> adding a target (maybe) 22:42 < mnemoc> target's config.in? 22:42 < owl> (and adding just specific packages to it... ) 22:42 < owl> ah so... nah 22:43 < mnemoc> target's config.in is loaded inside a block 7 22:43 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009024.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:44 < mnemoc> inside that you can add bool, comment, etc.. 22:44 < mnemoc> to specify packages you have to manipulate config/$config/packages with sed, or awk 22:44 < owl> yes... but is the order i'm writing down the files used ./scripts/Build-Target 22:44 < owl> +in 22:45 < mnemoc> Build-Target uses $config/packages to know what to build 22:45 < owl> ah... k. thx. 22:46 < mnemoc> you can disable seting $1="O" or removing the line avoiding other option to enable it 22:47 < owl> hm. k. thx. 22:47 < owl> i'm currently doing something like: 22:47 < owl> bash / { p; d; }; 22:47 < owl> binutils / { p; d; }; 22:47 < owl> bzip2 / { p; d; }; 22:47 < owl> (for every package i want in "my target" )... that's ok, isn't it... ? 22:49 < mnemoc> sure... thats an option ;) 22:49 < owl> (aeh... add a / before everything of this... ) 22:49 < owl> okil.. :) now i'm glad ;))) 22:49 < owl> -l 22:51 < mnemoc> i prefer to disable them all and enable the ones i need :) to use pkgsel to enable 'those' little differences 22:51 < owl> ack. /me too. 22:52 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508338A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:52 < owl> but the base and so, are still to fat for my needs... i want a light system like my LFS... but don't like to do everything "by hand" 22:53 < mnemoc> you can 'select' by category or repository to do a faster clean up first 22:54 < owl> yes. sure. i'm first removing everything and adding stuff like bash and so after that... (but full 'base' is still too fat. as mentioned above) 22:54 < mnemoc> i have 67 packages in my base 22:55 < owl> huh? which base? private one? 22:55 < owl> (so "not public" ?) 22:55 < mnemoc> my basic target 22:56 < mnemoc> the list can be sent... the target is not yet stable 22:56 < owl> i c. 22:56 < mnemoc> but builds 100% 22:56 < owl> depending on... ? 22:57 < mnemoc> i'm moving it to runit instead of sysvinit... that's way it's considered 'unstable' :) 22:57 < owl> i c. :) 22:57 < owl> because of the "sco wants money"-crap? 22:58 < owl> or for performance reasons? 22:58 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508338A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:58 < mnemoc> i like daemontools, and runit does /services and init for GPL :) 22:58 < owl> k. 22:59 < mnemoc> do you want the .awk file? 22:59 < mnemoc> with sysvinit of course :) 23:00 < owl> yes... sure. 23:00 < mnemoc> dcc or email? 23:00 < owl> dcc please 23:02 < mnemoc> recive :) 23:02 < owl> hrm. no file offered? O_o 23:02 < mnemoc> :o 23:02 < mnemoc> [17:02:16] [freenode] ùíù DCC SEND request sent to owl: pkgsel.mnemosyne.awk 23:02 < mnemoc> i'll bz2 it 23:02 < owl> [23:02] DCC no file offered by mnemoc 23:03 < owl> oki. thx. 23:03 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009024.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 23:03 < owl> *grml* 23:04 < mnemoc> [17:04:57] ùíù owl SEND: 0k of 1k (0%) - 0.00kB/s - pkgsel.mnemosyne.awk.bz2 23:04 < mnemoc> mmmmm 23:05 < owl> your client is lying... 23:05 < owl> [23:05] DCC can't connect to 192.168.0.43 port 3289 23:05 < mnemoc> bad irssi bad 23:05 < owl> *g* yes. 23:05 < mnemoc> bad nat bad 23:05 < owl> hm. don't mind... 23:10 < owl> so... now my laptop has two builds started... i can go to bed and see the fatal errors (and burning notebook) tomorrow... :p 23:11 < owl> gn8. 23:12 < mnemoc> n8 :) good luck 23:12 < owl> thx. n8 23:19 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530F39.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:20 < christ|an> I have found a mistake on the Rock Website - in the News - the link to the handbook is broken 23:26 -!- Scandium [~scandium@p50808B3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #rocklinux () 23:27 < mnemoc> christ|an: did you got the handbook or you need the proper url? 23:27 < christ|an> i have already read it :) 23:27 < mnemoc> :) 23:29 < christ|an> u2? 23:29 < mnemoc> i just overread it :| 23:29 < christ|an> i'v already worte a critical comment about the handbook and sent it to the author :) 23:29 < christ|an> tzzzz :) 23:30 < christ|an> boob *gh 23:30 < mnemoc> mail rene ;) ... the *author* ;) 23:31 < christ|an> yeah i habe done it 23:31 < mnemoc> the author :) sound weird 23:31 < christ|an> well i dont knew, that you know the author 23:32 < mnemoc> he is 'rxr' here 23:32 < christ|an> i know :) 23:33 < christ|an> i had already a little chat with him 23:37 < SMP> 10 hours idletime 23:37 < christ|an> lol 23:48 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-215.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:50 < mnemoc> SMP do you know a trick to left a processes abandoned (in fg); drop de ssh; the reconect and get that fg process back? (e.g. irssi) 23:53 < SMP> I don't understand you completely, but from what I understand, no, it's not possible to get in control of a process that has lost its terminal 23:53 < mnemoc> (my written expression and english are pathetic :() 23:53 < SMP> always use screen ;) 23:54 < mnemoc> screen is the trick? 23:54 < mnemoc> mmm... google 23:54 < SMP> man screen 23:55 < mnemoc> i dont' have it instaled here 23:55 < SMP> bad luck 23:55 < mnemoc> ./scripts/build-Pkg screen 23:55 < mnemoc> :) 23:56 < SMP> use Emerge-Pkg ;) 23:56 < mnemoc> i read about that... what's for? 23:58 < mnemoc> but Emerge-Pkg will build the whole s.th... 23:59 < SMP> screen works in pairs - one process manages virtual terminals on which you start a shell or whatever program and the second screen process lets you acess those many vts from your current vt --- Log closed Fri Jul 18 00:00:35 2003