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--- Log opened Sat Jul 19 00:00:05 2003 --- Day changed Sat Jul 19 2003 00:09 -!- SatgX [~satg@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit ("leaving") 00:14 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.154] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 00:18 < Mike1> n8 all 00:23 -!- SatgX [~satg@196.40.66.18] has quit () 00:28 < schasi> good night quakenet 00:28 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p5083340D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("tschaule") 00:32 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 00:57 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909E9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:59 -!- jeru [jeru@pD9EB7B7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 01:03 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B44C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:14 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9522F76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:36 < fake> kewl, the sonypid patch to the makefile has also been accepted by the author ;) 02:37 < mnemoc> your ar a contributor :) 02:39 < fake> yeah, sonypid simple install target makefile edit, and bluez-utils Makefile.am fixing 02:39 < fake> ww. 02:39 < fake> wee. 02:40 < mnemoc> :D 02:42 < SMP> WTF 02:43 < fake> what the fuck does WTF mean? ;) 02:43 < SMP> where is $pkg_openldap_prefix supposed to come from? 02:43 < SMP> in a .conf 02:43 < fake> SMP: *shrug* 02:44 < mnemoc> mmm :) 02:44 < fake> SMP: did you also wonder why /opt/openldap/libexec/slapd complains about a missing libsasl? 02:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M299P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:44 < mnemoc> openldap inject that into toolsdir after uilding 02:45 < mnemoc> slapd wants sasl?? 02:45 < fake> SMP: (there is no libsasl on my system, but i did a full install, so it is kund of legitimate...) 02:46 < fake> mnemoc: either that, or it is idealistically blinded. 02:46 < fake> ;-) 02:46 < SMP> huh 02:46 < SMP> well it's abvious that slapd wants libsasl 02:47 < SMP> if it was compiled with sasl support (as it should) 02:47 < SMP> so what's the problem? 02:47 < mnemoc> sasl is not on rock 02:47 < SMP> sure it is 02:47 < fake> SMP: but how comes that i don't have libsasl on my system, after a full install of all packages that compiled? 02:48 < SMP> ls /var/adm/flists/cyrus-sasl 02:48 < mnemoc> package/tsa/cyrus-sasl 02:48 < fake> i trief a ( cd /usr/lib && find . -name 'libsasl*' -print ) 02:49 < fake> s,trief,ried, 02:49 < fake> the return was pretty much nothing 02:49 < mnemoc> look at flist 02:49 < fake> but i must admit, i havent checked the flists that, so i'll just do that. 02:49 < SMP> well do you have cyrus-sasl installed or not? 02:50 < fake> s,that,yet, (need to go to bed) 02:50 < SMP> if yes, why is there suddenly no libsasl 02:50 < fake> SMP: that's the question 02:50 < SMP> if not, why did openldap link against it but you have no package right now 02:50 < fake> ack. exactly that's what i was wondering, too 02:50 < mnemoc> configure should detect it 02:51 < SMP> arrgh 02:51 < SMP> do you have the cyrus-sasl packages installed right now, with whatever content 02:51 < fake> another question: i can't seem to get the openssh configure on mips to find the (perfectly fine) openssl installation 02:51 < SMP> ? 02:51 < fake> SMP: any experiences? 02:51 < SMP> no 02:52 < fake> hrmpf. as for cyrus-sasl, i am not at the box currently, but i will look at it in half an hour or so (when i'm home) 02:53 < SMP> I hate kasc's packages 02:54 < fake> don't be mean 02:54 * fake will drive now 02:54 < fake> cu later 02:54 < mnemoc> cu fake 02:58 < SMP> and I hate the openldap package, too 02:59 < mnemoc> :( 02:59 < mnemoc> what do you hate of openldap package? 03:01 < SMP> hmm, it's not as bad as I thought 03:01 < SMP> but --without-sasl for a lib-only build it stupid anyway 03:02 < mnemoc> sure :( 03:02 < mnemoc> i'll have to remove that 03:03 < mnemoc> after testing it 03:03 < SMP> it's your packageß 03:03 < SMP> ? 03:03 * mnemoc hides 03:04 < SMP> oh, I thought it was in tsa/ ;-> 03:04 * mnemoc still hiden 03:04 < cchamilt> hi 03:04 < SMP> mnemoc: come back :) 03:04 < mnemoc> :) 03:04 < mnemoc> hi cchamilt 03:05 < cchamilt> SMP, you want a real sasl/ldap solution 03:05 < SMP> is that a question? 03:05 < cchamilt> i mean sasl 2 and ldap 2.1.x 03:06 < cchamilt> shit i will have to run pserver... 03:06 < cchamilt> seriously? 03:06 < cchamilt> I can pull then from my horde of packages mike wont release yet. 03:07 < SMP> openldap 2.1 got added support for sasl2? hmm 03:07 < cchamilt> http or anonymous cvs? 03:07 < cchamilt> would you like a heimdal snapshot with that? 03:08 < SMP> cchamilt: what are you talking about? 03:08 < cchamilt> cyrus-imap too, but that is probably not needed 03:09 < cchamilt> I have this ex-product called intouch that is a AD talking MS Exchange killer 03:09 < cchamilt> It has all that stuff in it. 03:09 < cchamilt> Mike1 is in charge of the tree, but he has never released it to rene. 03:10 < mnemoc> cchamilt mike use to send direct mails to rene 03:10 < cchamilt> This is not mikes personal packages. 03:11 < cchamilt> I have been asking him to submit them for months now, but he doesnt want to do it until our target builds perfectly. 03:12 < cchamilt> I'll do a checkout to http 03:12 < mnemoc> svn ;) 03:15 < cchamilt> so how do I remove CVS directories... 03:16 < mnemoc> rm -rf 03:16 < mnemoc> you have to checkout again 03:16 < cchamilt> https://www.ambigc.com/rock/mailsystem/ 03:17 < cchamilt> check in packages/techworx/mail-* for most packages 03:17 < cchamilt> I think most are pretty up to date, though I havent done a build in 3 weeks. 03:18 < cchamilt> mail-* packages are meant to augment some current packages in the tree. 03:19 < cchamilt> some arent finished like openca, but all the infrastructure stuff like sasl, etc. is working in production. 03:20 < mistik1> re folks 03:20 < cchamilt> SMP? 03:21 < cchamilt> hmm, oh well. Hope this helped. 03:22 < SMP> eh 03:23 < mnemoc> cchamilt: if you have more complete .conf files you should send the patches to the list, even if you don't have the target ready 03:23 < cchamilt> no shit, tell that to mike 03:24 < SMP> uhh 03:25 < cchamilt> hmm .conf has no perms... 03:25 < cchamilt> i wonder who did that. 03:27 < cchamilt> how did that happen. does apache 1.3 naturally block .conf files? 03:28 < cchamilt> never mind, squid hickup 03:28 < cchamilt> squid so stoopid 03:29 < cchamilt> SMP: https://www.ambigc.com/rock/mailsystem/ for all your sasl2 and ldap2.1.x needs... 03:31 < cchamilt> oh note: krb5 package is mit, dont use that. heimdal is the 'good' kerberos. 03:32 < cchamilt> need to go through and remove useless packages. 03:34 < cchamilt> hmm sasl needs bumped to 2.1.15 i see. 03:34 < cchamilt> Anyway i will shut up now. 03:35 < fake> so... 03:38 < fake> openca? clifford integrated that on linuxtag... 03:38 < fake> together with opensc 03:38 < fake> iirc 03:38 < cchamilt> good 03:40 < cchamilt> where? 03:40 < fake> cchamilt: i am not sure wether it is already 'active' 03:41 < fake> cchamilt: you'll have to ask cliff about details, i was busy ;) 03:41 < cchamilt> not in clifford anyways. openca is setup to install on the specific host, so I never looked at it much. 03:42 < cchamilt> It would be great if he did, between that and good ldap/krb support we would have a good system. 03:42 * fake listening to a great interpretion of 'sound of silence' from atrocity 03:42 * cchamilt listening to airconditioner rumble 03:42 < fake> cchamilt: how's things, anyways? 03:43 < cchamilt> quit company lead by not honest person 03:43 < fake> SMP: cyrus-sasl doesn't seem to be installed... will check if it's on a cd 03:43 < fake> arghl 03:44 < fake> damn it. i lended the cds to a colleague over the weekend 03:44 < fake> stupid me. 03:44 < fake> time for scripts/Build-Pkg 03:44 < cchamilt> what needs sasl 1.5 anymore anyways? 03:45 < cchamilt> the only packages dumb enough to use sasl are cyrus and ldap, both use 2 now. 03:45 < fake> i haven't even the slightest idea what sasl stands for, i just give openldap what it complains about 03:45 < cchamilt> i thought there were unfixed security problems in 1.5 03:46 < mnemoc> # grep -l sasl package/*/*/*.cache 03:46 < mnemoc> package/mnemoc/openldap/openldap.cache 03:46 < mnemoc> package/tsa/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl.cache 03:46 < cchamilt> sasl 1.5 is dead 03:46 < cchamilt> according to cyrus imap list 03:47 < cchamilt> need to get tsa to take my sasl and you to merge my ldap heh 03:48 < cchamilt> secure authentication something layer 03:48 < mnemoc> your ldap have too many confopts :( 03:48 < cchamilt> fake: it is plugin authentication on the app layer - kind of like a lame PAM. 03:49 < mnemoc> i also have dnsldap3, {pam,nss]_ldap on my mnemoc-devel repo. 03:50 < mnemoc> dupes are bad for health 03:50 < cchamilt> ldapdns you mean? 03:50 < cchamilt> anyway, since when are too many explicit configs bad, have you seen rpms for openldap? 03:50 < mnemoc> yes :) 03:51 < mnemoc> are rpms a good example? 03:51 < cchamilt> the only exces dependency is opensllp. 03:51 < cchamilt> the only extra dependency is openslp 03:52 < mnemoc> i see .conf config as absolutly generic, every other confopt should be added by target or with a bool on config.in 03:52 < fake> cchamilt: ah, thanks! 03:52 < mnemoc> can you split it and suggest 'bool' configs? 03:52 < cchamilt> mnemoc: interesting philosophy. 03:53 < cchamilt> so they can be add to Config? 03:53 < mnemoc> current config.in has a bool to build just libraries 03:54 < mnemoc> you can suggest a couple (few) more bools 03:54 < cchamilt> maybe if you read through and understood the flags, you might see they don't do much but configure the layout of the binaries more than anything. 03:55 < mnemoc> another way to do that is if pkg foo is installed, enable foo on this package 03:55 < cchamilt> mnemoc:how about we make a regular version of all packages and then a 'development' one with all those icky headers. 03:55 < cchamilt> :) 03:55 < mnemoc> don't like the idea 03:56 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B58.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:57 < cchamilt> it was a rpm joke 03:57 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:57 < mnemoc> not funny (: 03:58 < cchamilt> my question is, when people select openldap, will they expect a full version or just libraries... 03:58 < mnemoc> full 03:58 < mnemoc> well... server, not full 03:59 < cchamilt> so why make a library only one? 03:59 < mnemoc> it's easier to add confopt than removing them 03:59 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 03:59 < mnemoc> i don't get that :-\ /me too sleepy 04:00 < cchamilt> whatever, I wont force you to use it. 04:01 < mnemoc> if you group your confopt i can add them as optionals 04:02 < mnemoc> but you will have to change prefix in your target... i don't like much to see it in /usr :( 04:03 < cchamilt> ah it is ok, dont need to 'merge' no big deal. It can stay target specific. 04:03 < SMP> I anticipate a new feature in 2.1 that will make it possible to install only selected parts of a package, i.e. only dyn. libs or all but documentation etc. 04:03 < mnemoc> i want your confopts... 04:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD950698A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:04 < SMP> or 'everything but static libs and headers' 04:04 < SMP> whatever 04:04 < mnemoc> SMP: flistdel is not nice enough :( 04:04 < SMP> flistdel is EVIL 04:04 < mnemoc> may be adding regex to mine 04:04 < mnemoc> hehehe 04:05 < mnemoc> use flistdel to not package .a is not as evil as using flistdel to hide changes to httpd.conf 04:06 < SMP> nono 04:06 < SMP> everything will be packaged, but you can chose which parts to install when 'mine -i'-ing it 04:07 < mnemoc> that's what i tryed to say with 'adding regex to mine' 04:07 < cchamilt> I would be more concerned about how one can maintain a package in rock, rock configs are already too complex. 04:09 < mnemoc> complex configs currently are powerful config with you don't need to see 04:10 < mnemoc> when i finish with mono i'll continue with ldap and friends 04:13 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D91D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:13 < SMP> arrgh 04:13 < mnemoc> ? 04:13 < SMP> it isn't even possible to build gnomemeeting without ldap 04:14 < mnemoc> ldap-libs ;) 04:15 < mnemoc> i wonder ifwhen i build onely ldap-libs they should go to usr/lib or dirt the tree creating /opt/openldap... 04:16 < mnemoc> what do you think 04:17 < SMP> hmmm 04:17 < SMP> I think openldap should always go into /usr 04:17 < mnemoc> :( 04:17 < SMP> that's how things work in general 04:17 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:18 < SMP> personally, I install things like openldap and mysql into /opt/$pkg/$ver 04:18 < mnemoc> s/opt/packages/ :) 04:19 < SMP> no, that would cause confusion with my /package ;) 04:19 < mnemoc> :) 04:20 < mnemoc> that remembers my i haven't sent runit patch 04:21 < SMP> I need a fucking faster laptop ... 04:23 < n00kie> I need a laptop 04:23 < mnemoc> me too 04:23 < n00kie> Well SMP 04:23 < n00kie> If you don't like your laptop 04:23 < n00kie> Give it to us 04:23 < n00kie> We need it :) 04:26 < SMP> if you could chose between a tiny Sony C1MHP (Crusoe 876MHz, 256MB RAM, 9" TFT, 30GB HB, bluetooth) and a huge GRX616SP (Mobile P4 2.4 GHz, 1GB RAM, 16" TFT (!!!), 60GB HB, CD-RW/DVD+/-RW writer) ... 04:26 < SMP> which one would you chose? :) 04:26 < mnemoc> sony 04:26 < SMP> well they're both Sony 04:27 < SMP> so you mean the C! 04:27 < SMP> C1 04:27 < mnemoc> well... the first 04:27 < mnemoc> $$? 04:28 < mnemoc> looks nicer :) 04:28 < SMP> 1900 Euros and 3400 Euros 04:28 < SMP> 1 EUR ~ $1 04:28 < SMP> but the leasing rates are not so much different 04:29 < SMP> well, I took the first one 04:30 < SMP> but I don't have a desktop, so I will have to keep using my older Sony Z600TEK (P3 700MHz, 12" TFT, 256MB RAM, 20GB HD) 04:30 < mnemoc> and what do you currently have? 04:30 < SMP> as a 'desktop' 04:31 < SMP> but the C1 is just so damn portable 04:31 < n00kie> SMP build your own laptop :) 04:31 < n00kie> Buy a "Aktenkoffer", TFT and a normal machine 04:31 < n00kie> and do casemodding :) 04:31 < n00kie> of course, you need a car battery for the computer 04:32 < n00kie> but it's portable too 04:32 < SMP> a car battery won't keep up for 10 minutes 04:32 < n00kie> Hmm 04:33 * n00kie cannot believe that 04:33 < SMP> but actually I hope I'll get _both_ laptops ;P 04:33 < n00kie> Then give them us 04:35 < mnemoc> i have a P3 700 on desktop :( 04:35 < cchamilt> mnemoc: now look at mail-openldap.conf 04:37 < mnemoc> cchamilt: are --enable-{slapd,slurpd,syslog} needed? 04:37 < cchamilt> i have a fujistu p2120 04:38 < mnemoc> :| 04:38 < cchamilt> some options like slurpd are auto for some reason 04:38 < cchamilt> like somehow it 'would' know you plan to replicate the server 04:39 < cchamilt> slapd is default, but who knows. syslog is 'auto' as well. 04:40 < SMP> having a daemon more hardly hurts .. 04:40 < cchamilt> I like the p2120 over the sony c1 04:40 < cchamilt> crusoes are slow though 04:41 < cchamilt> I just believe in being explicit. That way if there are problems they are more likely to abort than screw up a build. 04:41 < SMP> it doesn't have to be fast, it has to be portable 04:42 < cchamilt> of course what autoconf feels is a failure is up to it... 04:42 < SMP> does the p2120 have bluetooth builtin? 04:42 < cchamilt> I get about 8 to 10 hours on it. 04:42 < cchamilt> no that is the only lacking thing 04:42 < SMP> I don't even need a long runtime 04:42 < cchamilt> I have one of those $20 usb bluetooths 04:43 < SMP> what I want is grab exactly two things (cellphone with bluetooth and subnotebook) and fix urgent things from anywhere 04:44 < cchamilt> as long as the service call last 2hours... :) 04:45 < cchamilt> ah well I shouldnt talk about how great the p2120 is anyway. 04:45 < SMP> hmm ROCKCFG_PKG_OPENLDAP_JUSTLIBS installs slapd / slurpd manpages :) 04:46 < cchamilt> it has grounding problems and the trackpoint is a little bit flaky in linux. 04:48 < cchamilt> of course that might be just my box 04:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: knoti 04:48 < mnemoc> SMP: doh :( 04:50 < mnemoc> # echo "<SMP> hmm ROCKCFG_PKG_OPENLDAP_JUSTLIBS installs slapd / slurpd manpages :)" >> package/mnemoc/openldap/TODO 04:51 < SMP> ;) 04:52 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DDC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:52 < fake> huh? 04:52 < fake> i got cut off... 04:53 < mistik1> man this sounds like so much greek to me right now 04:53 < mistik1> I can wait to jump in a try rock 04:53 < mistik1> s/can/cant/ 04:55 < mnemoc> rock is a 'must use' 04:55 < cchamilt> hmm i wonder if the current sasl still needs my heimdal patches 04:56 < mnemoc> cchamilt: you have to sync with svn 04:56 < cchamilt> why? 04:57 < mnemoc> many things have changes in last weeks 04:57 < cchamilt> well i would hope so... but what? 04:59 < mnemoc> to make the merge easier when you have your target ready 05:00 < cchamilt> i think it is ok, the packages and targets just 'overlay' on a svn co 05:00 < mnemoc> yes, but you may got dupes... and mail-$pkg is EVIL 05:01 < cchamilt> it is what clifford told me todo 05:01 < mnemoc> :) 05:01 < cchamilt> he said to change the name space for target specific versions of packages... 05:02 < cchamilt> if you have pam 05:02 < cchamilt> excuse me if you have pam_ldap and nss_ldap i can drop those 05:03 < cchamilt> hitting enter is too easy... 05:03 < SMP> on the p2120? ;) 05:03 < mnemoc> i dont' have them on rock... i have them in mnemoc-devel... but i'm moving those 37 packages to mnemoc 05:03 < cchamilt> heck i would like to merge my php back too, only it requires kerberos and mhash/mcrypt 05:03 < SMP> mnemoc: ls package/mnemoc-devel 05:04 < cchamilt> yes the p2120 has a slightly screwed keyboard but not as bad as thinkpads 05:07 < mnemoc> # ls 05:07 < mnemoc> arch cdb daemontools ez-ipupdate ldapdns mhash nss_ldap pam_ldap pureftpd sleuthkit ulogd 05:07 < mnemoc> atop chkrootkit di freeswan lft mml oidentd passcheck rtai socklog unixodbc 05:07 < mnemoc> bashdb courier-imap djbdns grsecurity lids mod_psldap openmosix pipe-tools runit ucspi-tcp xharbour 05:07 < mnemoc> beltane cpudyn eics ipsvd links no-ip openwall psad samhain ucspi-unix 05:07 < mnemoc> floooooof 05:07 < mnemoc> flood 05:09 < mnemoc> and boehm-gc, mono, mono-xsp, mono-debugger, mod_mono, mono-doc, gtk-sharp and harbour which are in limbo 05:09 < cchamilt> floooof is right, what you using mhash for? 05:09 < SMP> aaaack grsecurity 05:10 < SMP> is beltane being maintaned? 05:10 < mnemoc> mhash is needed by some other package... i don't remember wirght now 05:11 < cchamilt> ok, which version of arch? 05:11 < mnemoc> beltane... no idea... but samhain got updated this days 05:11 < mnemoc> tla 05:11 < cchamilt> tcr probably would want to maintain that... 05:12 < mnemoc> no problem with shaing packages :) 05:13 < mnemoc> SMP: beltane-1.0.3 26.05.2003 05:13 < cchamilt> he is active in their little community 05:13 < mnemoc> we need arch for rock-2.1 05:14 < cchamilt> i want to switch to arch, but waiting for ssl webdav 05:14 < mnemoc> i have lost much work beacuase of the no-branch policy :( 05:14 < mnemoc> i mean... no wirte access to main repo 05:15 < cchamilt> yeah i know 05:15 < mnemoc> arch solves that beutifully 05:15 < cchamilt> yep 05:15 < cchamilt> arch appears very smart if slow 05:16 < mnemoc> as cvs ;) 05:16 < mnemoc> jk 05:17 < mnemoc> SMP: have you user ctx+grsec? 05:17 < mnemoc> used 05:17 < SMP> gah! 05:17 < SMP> mnemoc: no 05:20 < mnemoc> i wonder if the work properly together 05:21 < SMP> arrrRRRgh 05:21 * SMP trying to make openh323's pwlib work with gcc3 05:23 < mnemoc> SMP go for gcc33 05:23 < mnemoc> if you fix it for 33 you will get it fixed for 3.2 05:24 < SMP> stefanp@lolita:~/tmp/callgen323$ make PWLIBDIR=/usr/share/pwlib OPENH323DIR=/usr/share/openh323 obj_linux_x86_r/main.o 2>&1 | wc -l 05:24 < SMP> 1859 05:25 < SMP> __1859__ lines of errors for just this one file 05:26 < SMP> problem is - I have absolutely zero clue about C++ 05:26 < mnemoc> the more usual problem is that gcc no longer supports multiline strings 05:26 < mnemoc> lolita? 05:27 < SMP> my laptop 05:27 < cchamilt> yes i think we know too much about smp now :) 05:27 < mnemoc> cute name ;) 05:30 * SMP opening a window to get some cool air 05:30 < cchamilt> hmm, thought police might be coming... 05:30 < SMP> mnemoc: how is it these days in .cl? 05:31 < mnemoc> some rain.. 4°-20° 05:31 < SMP> sounds OK 05:31 < mnemoc> really ok :) 05:32 < mnemoc> we have no 'extrem' weathers 05:32 < mnemoc> we have the dryes desert, but it's no so hot 05:32 < mnemoc> etc.. 05:33 < mnemoc> i'm forzen with 7° :-\ 05:33 < mnemoc> and can't breath with 30° 05:33 < SMP> hehe 05:34 < cchamilt> celsius is not fine tuned enough 05:34 < SMP> huh, what happened to www.rocklinux.de ... 05:36 < mnemoc> english/american people loves 'big numbers' °F, basketball, baseball, football.... all big numbers 05:36 < mnemoc> we are more modest ;) 05:36 < SMP> *g* 05:36 < cchamilt> i like a temperature between 27 and 28, but cant get it with my airconditioner being celsius only. 05:37 < cchamilt> so i am too hot or cold depending on whether it is running. 05:37 < mnemoc> you need to desing your own airconditioner :| 05:38 < cchamilt> or add decimal points.... 05:39 < cchamilt> baseball doesnt tend to have high numbers does it? 05:39 < mnemoc> no... lot of low numbers ;) 05:39 < mnemoc> but lot of them 05:39 < cchamilt> heh 05:39 < n00kie> How much °F is one °C? 05:40 < SMP> it's not linear 05:40 < cchamilt> something like 5/9ths 05:40 < mnemoc> plus a constant 05:40 < cchamilt> plus the 32 shift 05:40 < n00kie> Okay 05:41 < mnemoc> their metric sucks 05:41 < mnemoc> 10 is a nice number... why not use it :| 05:41 < SMP> does 'c++3 and BOOL' ring a bell for anyone? 05:42 < cchamilt> nah just some english culture should be thrown out. 05:42 < mnemoc> cchamilt: that's a good option 05:43 < mnemoc> much inch:feet:mile does not makes sense to me 05:43 < mnemoc> s/much// 05:44 < mnemoc> SMP: did you asked google? 05:44 < SMP> I'm on it 05:44 < SMP> but I think I'll just ask an src.rpm ... 05:45 < mnemoc> src.rpm->gcc2.96 ... or not? 05:45 < cchamilt> well the metrics were based on either old measurements or reproducible ones that made sense for the time back then. 05:45 < mnemoc> how many feets has a mile? 05:46 < cchamilt> and of course si takes the whole idea of everything must be based on scientific knowledge a little too far too 05:46 < cchamilt> 5120 i think 05:47 < mnemoc> uff 05:47 < mnemoc> i guess everybody learn to count with the fingers... and they are 10 ;) 05:47 < cchamilt> if you are lucky 05:48 < mnemoc> almost everybody :( 05:48 < cchamilt> it is an assumption, of course you can stipulate required functionality 05:48 < cchamilt> not that i have missing members... 05:49 < cchamilt> count how many fingers you should have... 05:49 < cchamilt> :) i am just messing with you 05:49 < mnemoc> define 'should' ;) 05:50 < cchamilt> yep 05:50 * mnemoc is going in other direction 05:50 < cchamilt> i definitely have something wrong with my brain today. 05:51 < mnemoc> some sleep is good to solve that 05:51 < cchamilt> just woke up 05:51 < mnemoc> go back to bed ;) 05:51 < cchamilt> maybe, i do feel irritable 05:52 < cchamilt> i dont think i should be coding in this mood, i will only do something stupid i will regret 05:52 < cchamilt> i will decide to restructure something and get confused and ... 05:56 < mnemoc> i will go to sleep 05:56 < mnemoc> :) 05:56 < mnemoc> gn8 05:56 < cchamilt> n8 06:12 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:30 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tfing, Aard 06:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tfing, Aard 06:32 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: daja77, rolla 06:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: daja77, rolla 06:34 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, daja77 06:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla, daja77 06:49 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw_, mistik1, snyke 06:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke, jsaw_, mistik1 06:52 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: fake 06:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fake 07:02 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:05 < SMP> gah, screw all h.323 07:09 < owl> good morning *yawn* 07:33 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M304P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:35 < n00kie_> moin owl 07:37 < owl> hi n00kie_ 07:39 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:27 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw_, mistik1, snyke 08:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke, jsaw_, mistik1 08:36 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-12.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:36 < holyolli> moin 08:39 < owl> hi holyolli 08:51 < holyolli> hi owl 09:00 < holyolli> cya 09:00 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-12.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 09:43 < Aard> moin 10:00 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.231] has joined #rocklinux 10:01 < d3mian> hi 10:02 < praenti> moin 10:03 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.231] has quit (Client Quit) 10:21 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E391FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:22 < christ|an> hi @ all :) 10:39 < daja77> moin 10:39 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B58.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:40 < Aard> hi daja77 10:40 < daja77> hey Aard 10:41 < daja77> ah nice konqueror crashed just for fun ... 10:42 < daja77> think I'll switch soon 10:42 < Aard> :) 10:43 < daja77> I'll give epiphany a try ... 10:44 < daja77> *argl* how can this happen: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-18.07.03-007/ 10:45 < rxr> re 10:45 < daja77> hi rxr 10:49 < rxr> hi daja77 10:53 < rxr> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-18.07.03-007/ 10:53 < rxr> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-18.07.03-007/ 10:53 < rxr> oops sorry 10:53 < daja77> hm? 10:58 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.227.99.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:59 < daja77> the worst thing is that freebsd getting more marketshare, not bad for a sucking os like this 11:00 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.248.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 < rxr> it is not that sucking - is it? 11:07 < daja77> yes freebsd crashing on my hw ... 11:07 < rxr> hm 11:08 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p5083340D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:10 < daja77> well I guess that win2k3 just replaces nt4 11:10 < schasi> was supposed to do, yes 11:10 < daja77> which would be of course better replaced by linux 11:12 < schasi> as nt was very unix alike, in fact more a unix than anything else 11:14 < daja77> nope ... 11:14 < schasi> huh? 11:15 < rxr> since when is NT unix-alike ? 11:15 < daja77> nt != unix 11:15 < daja77> maybe you are referring to posix subsystem 11:17 < schasi> am i? 11:18 < daja77> i guess you don't know what you are talking about ... 11:18 < rxr> daja77: the posix subsystem is not present in recent win2k or so variants anymore IIRC ... 11:18 < schasi> daja77: thats right, i just heard it from someone who should really know 11:18 < daja77> sure they are, they are ms argument for migrating unix to nt 11:18 < schasi> that win nt has many similairities to unix 11:19 < daja77> schasi: that is who? 11:19 < schasi> an admin of a corporation i was doing a replacement 11:19 < daja77> *rotfl* 11:19 < SMP> at least Microsoft has a UNIX license :> 11:19 < schasi> y? 11:19 < SMP> whatever that piece of paper is actually worth 11:20 < daja77> I had lectures with an os prof who was involved in porting nt to parisc, _he_ knows about nt internals 11:20 < daja77> and it is _not_ unix like at all 11:20 < daja77> nt is an vms clone 11:20 < daja77> -n 11:21 < SMP> they had parisc? 11:21 < SMP> I only knew about MIPS and SPARC 11:21 < daja77> he worked at hp ... 11:21 < rxr> they had sparc? 11:21 < rxr> I know of alpha ... 11:21 < SMP> and Alpha of course, the only non-x86 that was actually available 11:22 < daja77> they has almost every platform before everyone dropped the portings due linux 11:22 < SMP> hehe, yeah right 11:22 < rxr> hm - I did not know about SPARC - interesting ... 11:23 < daja77> the thing is that porting nt is a headache, especially for smp machines 11:23 < SMP> at that time Linux had by far not the power to stop such a port if Microsoft didn't want it stopped 11:24 < owl> remoin *yawn* 11:24 < daja77> but proting unix apps to linux is cheaper than porting them to win 11:24 < daja77> + backporting to unix is almost impossible 11:24 < rxr> we see how long itanic and x86_64 support needs to show up in Windoze ... 11:25 < daja77> yepp 11:29 < daja77> schasi: pls tell the person who should really know, to learn ;-) 11:29 < Aard> anybody out there wanting a 3c619c TokenRing (4/16M)-card? ;) 11:30 < daja77> hehe banking hw 11:30 < owl> *g* someone wants a PIN of a EC-card? ;) 11:30 * daja77 off for breakfast now 11:31 < daja77> I have one ... 11:31 < owl> (just don't know the owner) 11:31 < owl> daja77: /me too. but i watched someone typing in the PIN of the EC-card... only did a mistake: didn't steal the ec-card ;p 11:32 < daja77> ic 11:32 < rxr> owl: ;-) how was that about bad girls ? 11:33 < owl> rxr: *g* why? /me is always honest, nice, true :p 11:34 < owl> waaaaah... the new metallica-album is not as nice as the elder ones, btw... 11:42 < rxr> we need a new PR person 11:42 < owl> hmmm. what especially is the PR's person's job...? 11:43 < rxr> writing some announement text and informing other people / sites I think 11:43 < rxr> currently it is Jocelyn - but I need to kick her some times for each modification I want until it happens - s.th. some weeks 11:43 < rxr> this is unacceptable 11:44 < rxr> not only that news entries on www.rocklinux.org takes ages to appear 11:44 < owl> hmmm. as long as the person doesn't have to be on every event... (like LT or so...)... 11:44 < rxr> the handbook URL is invalied this time - and although I mailed here she has not fixed it since then ... (4 or 5 days?) 11:45 < rxr> additinal I find her announce text higly unprofessional 11:46 < owl> hmm. k 11:46 < rxr> it is always "xyz announced the release of the above. His original email is ..." 11:46 < rxr> and thats it mostly 11:46 < rxr> we really need more useful text on the frontpage ... 11:47 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAE55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:47 < owl> ack. might the topics of the email should be listed. and at least the new download-urls and so. imho. 11:48 < rxr> yes 11:48 < rxr> mw of shorly ... 11:48 < rxr> /mw/me/ ... 11:48 < owl> oki. /me off in about 15 minutes, too 11:49 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 < owl> hi rxr 11:49 < owl> aeh. ringo78 11:55 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p5083340D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:00 < rxr> I just mailed jocelyn again ... 12:00 < owl> ah. i c. 12:01 < tcr> moin all 12:01 < owl> hi tcr 12:02 < rxr> moin tcr 12:45 < cchamilt> rxr:? 12:46 < christ|an> i have got a problem: 12:48 < christ|an> when i vi in my xterm an create a new file i cant use the arrow keys ... when i press a error the result is not that what i want (that the curser goes to the position which the pressed key represents) 12:48 < SMP> christ|an: :set esckeys 12:48 < christ|an> what happens? this -> instead of moving the curser i get a nice output :) 12:48 < christ|an> a, b, c, and d 12:49 < christ|an> mom 12:50 < christ|an> hmmm 12:51 < christ|an> you mean when i am already in vi i should make this: 12:51 < christ|an> "Esc" 12:51 < christ|an> ":set esckeys" [enter] 12:51 < christ|an> okay it works :) 12:52 < SMP> echo set esckeys >> ~/.vimrc 12:53 < daja77> 863 builds total, 834 completed fine, 29 with errors. 12:53 < christ|an> okay - no output 12:54 < christ|an> how can i delete \n? 12:55 < ringo78> .d // Delete current line 12:55 < christ|an> nice to know :) thanks 12:57 < ringo78> https://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html // nice vi tutorial 12:57 < SMP> you really, really, _really_ should read some basic documentation or install SuSE 12:57 < christ|an> ringo78: thanks :) i will read it - so i never have to ask you rtfm questions about vi(m) 13:01 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAE55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:02 < daja77> SMP: suggesting to install suse is evil ... 13:04 < SMP> right SuSE is probably an insult, rather Mandrake ... 13:04 < daja77> :) 13:07 < SMP> my wmaker very rarely gets stuck when panning a window - mouse and keyboard locked, nothing but moving that window works 13:07 < cytrinox> hi 13:08 < SMP> fix: kill -SEGV the wmaker process from a vt. this invokes the segfault handler, next chose 'restart windowmaker' and all is fine again ;-O 13:14 < SMP> afk. 13:14 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B165F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:15 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B1427.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < Aard> *lol* a guy in another channel just rebootet his debian-box -- because it wouldn't open the cdrom-drive ;) 13:27 < cytrinox> lol 13:31 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9054BDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:43 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 13:50 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-144.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:02 < rxr> re 14:03 < rxr> hm - to my mail to Jocelyn, she only replied: 14:03 < rxr> "Yes, you are right. " 14:04 < rxr> hm - what should I get from this - especially since the broken URL is still not fixed ... 14:07 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E735.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E735.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 14:08 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E735.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:10 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@pD9054BDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:28 < daja77> Aard: rofl 14:31 < esden> hi all 14:31 < esden> is Mike1 around? 14:34 < daja77> huhu esden 14:36 < christ|an> is anyone here with a asic c++ knowledge? 14:36 < daja77> yeah ... 14:36 < daja77> but I'll not answer questions right now 14:37 < christ|an> okay 14:44 < christ|an> anyone else? 14:47 < rxr> yes me 14:48 < Aard> christ|an: maybe me 14:49 < christ|an> can you speak german? :) 14:50 < christ|an> can = are you able to 14:50 < christ|an> bad bad english :) 14:50 < Aard> christ|an: -> query 15:04 < rxr> I could, too 15:04 < rxr> but I have not endless free time ... 15:05 < rxr> hm - ... 15:06 < rxr> now Jocelyn canceled completely? I just reasked for a correction - and talked about more verbose News entries ... 15:06 < rxr> someone here ? 15:08 < Aard> rxr: ? 15:11 < rxr> I meant core ROCK people ... 15:13 < fake> moin 15:14 < rxr> hi fake 15:15 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M304P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:16 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M260P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:22 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508337B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9588387.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 < tsa> hi all 15:41 < daja77> rxr: wtf? 15:42 < rxr> hi daja77 and tsa 15:42 < rxr> daja77: what fsck ? 15:42 < daja77> what has jocelyn canceled 15:43 < rxr> PR work 15:43 < rxr> daja77: read the list ... 15:44 < owl> rehi 15:44 < daja77> oops 15:44 < rxr> hi owl 15:44 < owl> hi rxr 15:45 < rxr> daja77: yes - oops. I only asked a few things - and she quit the job immediately ... 15:45 < fake> rxr: maybe trouble with cchamilt? 15:45 < fake> rxr: he was here all night 15:47 < owl> hi fake 15:47 < fake> hi owl 15:47 < fake> it's cool to have mono support in rock ;) 15:48 < owl> mono as in mono.net? 15:48 < owl> or so? 15:48 < rxr> owl: yes 15:48 < owl> omg. 15:48 < fake> owl: do you read the ml? 15:48 < owl> fake: aehm... yes and no.. depends 15:49 < owl> (ah... in the "as new makred" mails) 15:49 < schasi> anyone using xchat? how can i change between channels by keyboard? 15:51 < daja77> hmm I somehow got the feeling that there is more than that what jocelyn stated 15:51 < tsa> hm. 15:51 < tsa> i don't know for sure, but the mail sounded as if she was pissed off by something. 15:51 < tsa> whatever that might be.. 15:51 < daja77> schasi: read the doc, god damn it 15:52 < daja77> tsa: ack 15:52 < tsa> (just a wild speculation) 15:53 < rxr> tsa: I just aksed her about a few things ... 15:53 < tsa> hi rxr 15:53 < rxr> I can post it on anarchy or so ... 15:53 < rxr> hi tsa 15:54 < tsa> rxr: no, please don't. 15:54 < daja77> well anyway, it is really a bad time for that 15:54 < tsa> rxr: if she would have wanted to explain herself, she would have done so, therefore i guess she has her reasons.. 15:54 < rxr> I do not think so - I often needed a week to get an announcement done 15:54 < rxr> and the rock-handbook url is still invalid in the news entry ... 15:54 < tsa> hm. 15:54 < tsa> btw. 15:54 < daja77> rxr: so you take over pr for a while? 15:55 < tsa> does anyone publish flists of recent builds? 15:55 < rxr> daja77: I just phoned Cliff - we are currently migrating the homepage into the typo3 Content Managemant System 15:55 -!- dexter [~roland@dexter.demon.nl] has joined #rocklinux 15:55 < dexter> hi 15:55 < tsa> aaaaah! 15:55 < tsa> typo3!! 15:55 < daja77> ??! 15:55 < rxr> and he will ask for main editors next week 15:55 < owl> hi daja77 15:56 < rxr> I'll not do more PR then I already do 15:56 < tsa> daja77: "fully overloaded content management system" 15:56 < tsa> i've seem it at work.. 15:56 < rxr> tsa: I meant the mail I sent to her - not her reply 15:56 < tsa> s/m/n/ 15:56 < tsa> ah 15:56 < tsa> ok 15:56 < tsa> damnit. 15:56 < tsa> i need flists. 15:56 < rxr> should I post here - or on anarchy ... 15:56 < daja77> rxr: more would be really hard, you are doin a fine job n this already 15:56 < daja77> on 15:57 < tsa> better here, then. 15:57 < daja77> rxr: anarchy, please ;-) 15:57 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.154] has joined #rocklinux 15:58 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 15:58 < owl> hi Ge0rG 15:58 < Ge0rG> good morning 15:59 * tsa sending patch. 15:59 * daja77 has to put down work for rock for a week 16:00 < dexter> interesting bugbuddy crashes which launches it self to report te bug and then crashes to ... etc etc 16:00 < daja77> *lol* 16:00 < tsa> hehe 16:01 < tsa> ah, nice. 16:01 < tsa> working opera 7 serial. 16:01 < daja77> btw it was reported that the dia we ship is borken, I just tested and it is :-( 16:02 < tsa> hm. 16:02 < daja77> just doubleclick an Textbutton, and it crashes 16:02 < tsa> i'm using dia 0.88.1 from 1.7.0-DEV-200203241816 16:02 < tsa> works. 16:02 < daja77> this is 0.91 16:02 < tsa> hm.. 16:02 < tsa> gtk2? 16:03 < dexter> I just installed the beta6 release and it crashes when i want to lauch the sound properties window in gnome 16:03 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-48.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("anarchy") 16:03 < daja77> yes 16:05 < schasi> anyone using xchat? how can i change between channels by keyboard? 16:05 < daja77> *argl* 16:05 < schasi> read the fm 16:05 < schasi> didnt find anything 16:05 < schasi> just as last time i read it 16:05 < daja77> join their chan and ask them 16:05 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-48.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:05 < rxr> re 16:06 < rxr> strange - maybe wrong keypress ... 16:06 < dexter> hehe and theme just dies 16:06 < tsa> rxr: new patch for you on the list ;) 16:06 < schasi> if they answer... 16:07 < daja77> *shrug* then use another client ... 16:07 < rxr> mail posted on anarchy ... 16:07 < schasi> ^^ 16:08 < tsa> hm.. 16:08 < tsa> my pgp key expires in a week. 16:08 < rxr> cu later 16:08 < daja77> cu rxr 16:08 < owl> cya rxr 16:13 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E391FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:18 < dexter> okee i installed the iso images lets see if downloading sources, building and installing goes that easy as well 16:21 < dexter> hmm mozilla hangs 16:21 < daja77> spam duplicates sucking even more ... 16:21 < dexter> maybe I should wait for the stable release;-) 16:21 < daja77> huh, you are downloading packages with mozilla? 16:22 < daja77> rock stable != mozilla stable 16:22 < dexter> no i just wante to down load the script that makes the download posible 16:22 < daja77> the script???! 16:22 < dexter> scripts 16:23 < daja77> you already have the src on hs, just do an upgrade 16:23 < daja77> hd 16:24 < daja77> cd /usr/src/rock-src 16:24 < daja77> scripts/Update-Src 16:24 < dexter> aaah 16:24 < dexter> thanks:-) 16:25 < daja77> and then Config, Donload, Build ... 16:25 < dexter> ok 16:44 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < Pyro> hi. 16:45 < Pyro> mm..' 16:46 < Pyro> jeg da. 16:46 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Client Quit) 17:06 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-144.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Temet nosce.") 17:35 < knoti> moin 17:37 < daja77> moin knoti 17:38 < daja77> thx for your link :) 17:39 < daja77> *lol* https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/je-19.07.03-003/ 17:41 * daja77 off now, cu 17:42 < knoti> cu 17:43 < knoti> SCO ist ja so scheiße 18:41 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9588387.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:49 -!- schueler [~blubb0r@pD9054859.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:52 < rxr> SMP: arround ? 18:55 < SMP> still 18:59 < fake> rxr: here? 19:00 < esden> hi all 19:01 < fake> hi esden 19:02 < fake> rxr: how is rockplug ought to write logfiles in /var/log, when the root fs is still mounted ro, and /var is not on an own partition? 19:10 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB59B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:13 -!- schasi [~blubb0r@p508337B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:15 < rxr> fake: yes 19:15 < rxr> fake: in the recent svn HEAD the FS is mounted when rock plug is run ... 19:15 < rxr> even -beta7 contains this code change ... 19:16 < rxr> when a domain was last registered "14.07.2002" and not in use - is there hope that will become free in some days ? 19:19 < fake> rxr: ok, cool 19:20 < SMP> rxr: maybe, maybe not 19:20 < mnemoc> who is pascal? 19:22 < rxr> my brother - why ? 19:23 < mnemoc> just curius :) 19:23 < rxr> SMP: does a denic entry expire after an year? 19:23 < rxr> "Nextra Deutschland GmbH & Co. KG" registered rebe.de a year ago 19:23 < rxr> and it is not in use .... 19:27 < SMP> it 'expires' if the owner doesn't pay anymore 19:28 < rxr> and what is the normal cycle? A year - or can this expire cylcle be defined by the customer ? 19:28 < SMP> which is an unlikely situation in general as well as this particular domain 19:30 < rxr> you think they registed it get a big chunk of money from a wine company ? 19:31 < mnemoc> rxr: who will take PR? 19:31 < SMP> maybe it's not quite so unused as you think ;) 19:31 < mnemoc> SMP: you? 19:32 < SMP> mnemoc: no 19:33 < SMP> rxr: also there is automatic 'expire' - the owner has to pay for the domain until he cancels the contract 19:34 < SMP> is he doesn't pay hsi provider anymore, the domain is sent to 'transit', but not deleted 19:34 < SMP> ehm 19:34 < SMP> 'there is _no_ automatic expire' 19:39 < rxr> SMP: do you see a use of it ? 19:40 < tcr> mnemoc: there shouldn't be a distinct pr person, imho. 19:40 < SMP> rxr: well, it's on the nameservers, there is a mailexchanger ... 19:41 -!- Nebukadneza [~arklinux@dsl-213-023-052-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 < mnemoc> tcr: jocelyn quits... so we need someone... or you said everyone? 19:41 < Nebukadneza> hi 19:42 < mnemoc> hi Nebukadneza 19:42 < tcr> mnemoc: Yes, everyone in general, and the maintainer for specific cases (for example, that rxr had to ask jocelyn for updating freshmeat.net was somewhat braindead anyway). 19:43 < tcr> A distinct pr person does just add really unnecessary overhead that can and should be omitted 19:43 < rxr> tcr: yes 19:43 < Nebukadneza> my problem: i installed rocklinux 2.0.0 beta BLABLA ... tryed to boot, and then it says while he usually starts the initscripts evrytime" cannot execute /bin/sh" 19:43 < rxr> a PR person which thinks about possible actions and activities is fine ... 19:44 < Nebukadneza> the softwarelist was set to workstation 19:44 < rxr> and with the typo3 that should be introduced for the web-site next week everyone with an ID can edit pages and news entries ... 19:44 < rxr> Nebukadneza: the BLABLA is particularly interesting .. 19:44 < tcr> rxr: Really, there's no person needed for that :). 19:44 < mnemoc> rxr: that's what i mean by PR responsable... activities, events, camps, etc. 19:45 < Nebukadneza> rxr beta i dont know 19:45 < Nebukadneza> sek 19:45 < rxr> Nebukadneza: then go and find it out ... 19:45 -!- christian [~christian@pD9E391FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:45 < christian> hi @ all 19:45 < tcr> "At the time it's desired, put in charge whoever is voluntary" 19:46 < christian> tcr: hi :) 19:46 < Nebukadneza> 2.0.0 beta 6 desktop i think 19:46 < tcr> moin christian 19:47 < christian> EXIT 19:47 -!- christian [~christian@pD9E391FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 19:47 < Nebukadneza> anyone a idea? 19:48 < rxr> anyone experience with the -beta6 ? I installed it once and it worked fine ... 19:48 < dexter> I have beta 6 19:48 < tcr> Yes. it cannot execute /bin/sh, that could be permission problems, or generally that /bin/sh can't be found (due to missing mount for example) 19:48 < Nebukadneza> dexter: and .. :) 19:49 < dexter> I did not read everything one moment please 19:49 < tcr> missing mount can be also related to network problems, indirectly 19:49 < tcr> Depends, really. 19:49 < Nebukadneza> i installed rocklinux 2.0.0 beta 6 desktop ... tryed to boot, and then it says while he usually starts the initscripts evrytime" cannot execute /bin/sh" 19:50 < dexter> I do not have that message 19:50 < rxr> dexter: did you installed the same -beta6 desktop build ? 19:51 < tcr> Nebukadneza: As said above, check for mount problems (probably you have to look at lilo.conf and/or fstab), or if it ain't that, take a look at the permission (for example by using a rescue system) 19:52 < tcr> Bootable rocklinux install cdroms can serve as such a rescue system, too. 19:52 < Nebukadneza> tcr: i can mount it from debian 19:52 < dexter> hmm I used ISO images oh I see I used the generic not desktop 19:52 * tcr off to friend 19:52 < Nebukadneza> i load it with the debian lilo too, but kernel and root parameters are set correct 19:54 < mnemoc> Nebukadneza: did you append root in devfs format? 19:54 < Nebukadneza> sek 19:54 < Nebukadneza> my entry 19:55 < Nebukadneza> image=/boot/vmlinuz-rock-2.4.21 19:55 < Nebukadneza> root=/dev/hda1 19:55 < Nebukadneza> read-only 19:55 < Nebukadneza> alias=3 19:55 < Nebukadneza> thats it 19:56 < mnemoc> append="root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1" <-- add that line 19:57 < Nebukadneza> i got lilo, not grub 19:57 < Nebukadneza> and debian dont have devfs ... /dev/hda1 is the partition for rock 19:57 < Nebukadneza> but okay 19:57 < mnemoc> the append is send to rock's kernel at boot time 19:57 < Nebukadneza> oki 19:58 < Nebukadneza> but the root= is okay 19:59 < mnemoc> root is ok for lilo, but not for kernel 19:59 < Nebukadneza> oki 20:00 * fake away for some party 20:00 < Nebukadneza> i have to reboot 20:00 < Nebukadneza> brb 20:00 < Nebukadneza> (but i see ... /bin/sh doesnt exist) 20:00 < mnemoc> have i good time fake 20:01 < mnemoc> mmmm 20:01 < mnemoc> does /var/adm/packages/bash exist? 20:01 < Nebukadneza> brb 20:01 < fake> mnemoc: thanks ;) 20:02 < mnemoc> :) 20:02 < fake> tomorrow i want to write the festival speech output plugin for rock *g* 20:02 < Nebukadneza> no 20:02 < mnemoc> hehe 20:02 < mnemoc> does /var/adm/packages exist? 20:02 < fake> . o O ( maybe i shouldn't drink too much tonight, then... aw... bad idea. ) 20:02 < fake> bye! 20:03 < Nebukadneza> jep 20:03 < mnemoc> mm... so you didn't installed bash :( 20:03 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E391FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:03 < mnemoc> use 'mine' tool to install bash-2.05b.gem 20:03 < Nebukadneza> mnemoc: i left it standart for workstation ... is it possible, that bash isnt install 20:04 < christ|an> re 20:04 < Nebukadneza> mine? 20:04 < Nebukadneza> okay 20:04 < Nebukadneza> from beginning 20:04 < esden> hi christ|an 20:04 < Nebukadneza> i start from cd .. etc. then i start stone 20:04 < christ|an> hi esden 20:04 < Nebukadneza> mount root to / and aktivate swap 20:04 < Nebukadneza> then start to install software 20:04 < Nebukadneza> and it is okay 20:04 < christ|an> esden: where are you at the moment - munic? 20:05 < Nebukadneza> r u from germany? 20:05 < mnemoc> rxr: mount root to / <--- is that right? or have to be mounted to /mnt/target? 20:05 < christ|an> Nebukadneza: me? 20:05 < Nebukadneza> öö jep 20:05 < christ|an> Nebukadneza: yes - why? 20:06 < Nebukadneza> me too 20:06 < christ|an> :) 20:06 < christ|an> and i will start a query :) 20:06 < Nebukadneza> is here anywhere a rocklinux de chan? 20:07 < mnemoc> almost everybody here is german 20:07 < esden> christ|an: no I am currently in ingolstadt. why? 20:07 < Nebukadneza> mnemoc: really? 20:07 < Nebukadneza> anyone here who was on the rocklinux ööö stand @ linuxtag? 20:08 < christ|an> esden: well it was only a little small talks question 20:08 < christ|an> -s 20:08 < esden> Nebukadneza: is german or living in germany ... like me ... I am not german but I live in in the german country ;-) 20:08 < esden> christ|an: hehe ;-) ... small talk question accepted ;-) 20:09 < christ|an> esden: you react like a nice c++ programm :) 20:09 < mnemoc> esden: accepted? :( 20:09 < christ|an> very fast :) 20:10 < esden> hehe ... ;-) ... I would really say that my reaction tyme is more like a nasty written java program ;-) 20:10 < mnemoc> i guess i'm the onlyone currently here who doesn't speak german :( 20:11 * -> esden will be killed by fake in some moments 20:11 < Nebukadneza> löl 20:11 < christ|an> esden: no no :) hehe well nevermind :) 20:11 < esden> christ|an: ??? 20:12 < esden> autsh ... my foot is aking ... 20:12 < christ|an> is more like a nasty written java progra -> no no :) hehe well nevermind :) 20:12 < esden> the dancing today killed it ... >_< 20:12 < esden> and I go in some hours to a disco ... and tomorrow I have dance exam >_< 20:12 < esden> argh 20:12 < esden> if I survive till monday that will be a miracle 20:13 < mnemoc> esden: what are your learning to dance? 20:13 < christ|an> with your reaction like a c++ application you will survive esden 20:14 -!- Freak [~freak@s69.ifi.uio.no] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 < esden> mnemoc: rumba, chacha, samba, jive, tango, watlz (or how it is spelled in engish), quickstep 20:14 < esden> christ|an: thanks ... ;-/ 20:15 < mnemoc> tango is not safe for back :( 20:15 < christ|an> esden: what is it for an exam? 20:15 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB59B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:16 < esden> it is an exam that takes place after every course you make ... so after bonze course there is bronze exam ... after silver, silver exam and so on 20:16 < esden> I am doing the gold exam ... 20:16 < esden> it is only there so that people pay ;-) 20:16 < n00kie_> Thenn good luck, esden :) 20:16 < n00kie_> then* 20:17 < christ|an> esden: i press all fingers for you i have :) *g 20:17 < esden> thanks guys 20:17 < n00kie_> Your 11th finger too, christ|an? ;-) 20:18 < esden> n00kie_: tztztz 20:18 < n00kie_> esden: :) 20:18 < christ|an> well - i live near an "akw" - i have got two brains :) 20:18 < rxr> re 20:18 < n00kie_> wb rxr 20:19 < n00kie_> akw = aps in english? 20:19 < n00kie_> atom power station 20:19 < n00kie_> Just guessing 20:19 < christ|an> yes 20:19 < christ|an> :) 20:19 < christ|an> n00kie_: you know - my english [...] 20:20 < esden> hi rxr 20:20 < esden> ok .. I go for a shower 20:21 < esden> cu guys ... I will be back tonight ... or some time tomorrow ;-) 20:21 < n00kie_> Have fun, esden :) 20:21 < esden> if I survived everything I still have in front of me ;-) 20:21 < esden> n00kie_: I will I will ;-) 20:21 < esden> girls hide ... esden is coming !!! ;-) 20:25 < christ|an> lol 20:31 -!- Freak [~freak@s69.ifi.uio.no] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:34 -!- Freak [freak@a53.ifi.uio.no] has joined #rocklinux 20:37 < mnemoc> does Download generate bz2 from src.rpm? 20:40 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.248.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:40 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802B9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 < esden> christ|an: do not lough ... I am really very eager to know how many phone numbers I will collect tonight ;-) 20:41 < esden> or other things ;-) 20:41 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.248.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 < christ|an> esden: i only say: hf 20:44 < esden> hf??? 20:46 < christ|an> have fun :) 20:46 -!- laborratte [~owl@B50aa.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < laborratte> esden: poser *kick* 20:46 < laborratte> hi btw... 20:47 < esden> laborratte: o_O 20:47 < esden> hi owl ... 20:48 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.248.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:48 < laborratte> esden: ? (sorry... owl is still used... and my connection is "ueberlastet"... with downloading...) 20:50 < esden> owl: nice ... 20:52 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B1427.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:54 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080269D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:55 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.238.98.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:09 -!- Nebukadneza [~arklinux@dsl-213-023-052-032.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS" - Ark Linux (https://www.arklinux.org/)") 21:14 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FEF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:14 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FEF3.dip.t-dialin.net))) 21:14 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 21:15 -!- Freak [freak@a53.ifi.uio.no] has quit ("Client exciting") 21:24 < christ|an> esden: query 21:31 < rxr> hm - gsmp http traffic so far: 21:31 < rxr> 123.79 GB 21:31 < rxr> (this months ...) 21:32 < mnemoc> rxr: can you update the snapshot of the website? 21:32 < rxr> -s 21:32 < rxr> which snapshot on what website ? 21:32 < mnemoc> www.rocklinux.org/package is to old 21:32 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/ 21:33 < mnemoc> May 25 20:1 1120k 21:33 < mnemoc> and https://www.rocklinux.org/packages/ claim to be generated from there 21:35 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - in the works 21:36 < mnemoc> thanks :) 21:36 < Mike1> :) 21:37 < christ|an> MIKE 21:37 < mnemoc> hi Mike1 21:38 < Mike1> hi all 21:38 < Mike1> mnemoc: como andas 21:38 < Mike1> ? 21:38 -!- laborratte [~owl@B50aa.pppool.de] has quit ("[Lag: 90 (??)]") 21:38 < mnemoc> pretty good, and you? 21:39 < Mike1> mnemoc: igual gracias. :) 21:43 < mnemoc> does Download creates a .bz2 from rpms? 21:43 < daja77> re 21:43 < mnemoc> hi daja77 21:44 < daja77> hi mnemoc 21:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: do not think so 21:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: is it an srpm ? 21:47 < daja77> hi Mike1 21:47 < mnemoc> src.rpm 21:47 < Mike1> hello daja77 21:47 < mnemoc> perl modules i shoed you are only packages as .src.rpm 21:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: maybe you could provide a patch to improve this in Download 21:48 < Mike1> or keep a tarball on another host 21:48 < mnemoc> i prefer to improve Download... 21:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: ie for download to be able to process ur perl-modules packages you will first need to 'rpm2cpio perl-modules.src.rpm | cpio -i" 21:49 < daja77> wtf we need src.rpms? 21:49 < Mike1> daja77: i'm trying to help mnemoc on something 21:50 < Mike1> daja77: apereantly he needs a package which is only available on srpm 21:50 < mnemoc> yes :( ... poor mnemoc 21:50 < daja77> *argl* people who only offer srpms should be shot 21:51 < Mike1> hehe yes indeed 21:51 < mnemoc> the package itself is tar.gz, but it had a set of perl-modules only available as .rpm :( 21:51 < daja77> sounds like crap ... 21:52 < Mike1> mnemoc: still it is easy to handle such stuff 21:52 * Mike1 have been "converting" several srpms in the past days to .deb packages 21:52 < mnemoc> Mike1: do you want to do the patch? ;) 21:52 < daja77> Mike1: haha 21:52 < mnemoc> ok... i'll wait for your patch.. thanks :) 21:52 < Mike1> mnemoc: i would love to do it, but i currently have several things to do so it will take several days 21:53 < mnemoc> :( 21:53 < Mike1> mnemoc: but hey! we have "alien" between our packages, use it 21:54 < Mike1> mnemoc: ever tried it? 21:54 < mnemoc> i can't force ppl to have alien on their pre-rock systems :( 21:54 < Mike1> well.. 21:54 < Mike1> mnemoc: we need to think of a good solution 21:54 < mnemoc> mmmm.... dunno.... "people who only offer srpms should be shot" 21:54 < daja77> exactly 21:55 < Mike1> yes also people trying to include rpms to rock shouyld be shot 21:55 < Mike1> right daja77? 21:55 * Mike1 stares at mnemoc with an evil grin 21:55 < daja77> depends 21:56 < owl> *g* 21:56 < Mike1> damn it, can't you just support me to tease mnemoc? 21:56 < Mike1> :) 21:56 < daja77> hehehe 21:56 < owl> hi Mike1 21:56 < daja77> shoot them! 21:56 < Mike1> hi Sandra "Eule" Dismar. 21:57 < daja77> :) 21:57 * Mike1 getting a cup of coffee 21:57 * mnemoc hidden 21:57 < mnemoc> i'll mail them... 21:58 -!- commel [~berndritt@dsl-082-082-067-195.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 < commel> servus 21:58 < daja77> hi commel 21:58 < daja77> :) 21:58 < commel> man, man, man alles dreht sich um rocklinux ;) 21:59 -!- laborratte [~owl@B50aa.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:59 < daja77> export LANG=EN please 21:59 < commel> ok 21:59 < daja77> but you are right anyway 21:59 < laborratte> rehi 21:59 < commel> its all about rl 22:00 < commel> hi owl 22:00 < mnemoc> daja77: what did he said? :( 22:00 < commel> mnemoc: i just translated it below 22:00 < daja77> rl = rocklinux in that case 22:01 < mnemoc> oh... ic 22:01 < commel> who of you guys had been to lt2003? 22:01 * daja77 22:01 * christ|an :) 22:02 < daja77> rxr, clifford, fake, ripclaw 22:02 < daja77> tibit as visitor 22:02 < commel> sweet 22:02 < daja77> praenti as visitor 22:02 < commel> your combination of the table i liked 22:03 < daja77> it was clifford's idea 22:03 < commel> regards to him 22:03 < mnemoc> wtf r u talikng about? 22:03 < commel> perhaps we want to use the idea for urselves 22:03 < commel> is it GPLed? ;) 22:03 < daja77> hehe dunno 22:03 < daja77> mnemoc: linuxtag 22:04 < mnemoc> i got that part... 22:04 < mnemoc> what table's combination? 22:04 < commel> mnemoc: the put the tables to a triangle 22:04 < commel> +y 22:04 < daja77> at our booth 22:04 < mnemoc> pics? 22:04 < mnemoc> does anybody have pics of rl@lt? 22:04 < daja77> only one 22:05 < mnemoc> who? 22:06 < daja77> https://ihsan.dogan.ch/symlink/LinuxTag-2k3/Donnerstag/1dsc00042.jpg 22:06 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E735.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:07 < mnemoc> o_O looks quite bored :( 22:07 < daja77> well on thursday nothing much happened 22:07 < rxr> re 22:08 < daja77> it is not a very photo, but I don't have links to other rock related ... 22:08 < daja77> s/very/very good/ 22:08 < rxr> mnemoc: when clifford has time to config (hopefully tomorrow) the content will be pulled from the sources I just set up ... 22:10 < rxr> daja77: rtai merge ? 22:10 < daja77> not this week, have to learn for exams, so I do not work 22:11 < laborratte> hi rxr 22:11 < daja77> I just started a build before I left ... 22:11 < rxr> hi laborratte 22:11 < mnemoc> daja77: who is giving it's back on the picture? 22:11 < daja77> this is philipp, a guy from clifford's company 22:12 < daja77> rxr: but we can do this next monday 22:14 < daja77> btw https://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=364 22:18 < mnemoc> where is fontconfig? 22:18 < mnemoc> xf86? 22:19 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 < Nebukadneza> rehi 22:20 < laborratte> hi Nebukadneza 22:25 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:29 < daja77> n8 you all 22:30 < Nebukadneza> hi laborratte 22:30 < laborratte> gn8 daja77 22:33 < rxr> cu daja77 22:33 < Nebukadneza> guts näschtlä (cya 22:33 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-032.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:33 -!- schueler is now known as schasi 22:43 -!- n00kie__ [~n00kie@M293P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E391FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:49 * rxr off to a pub - cu later 22:50 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M260P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:51 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:51 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:52 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 22:52 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 -!- commel [~berndritt@dsl-082-082-067-195.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:11 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-12.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:11 < holyolli> moin 23:11 < Mike1> holyolli: ! 23:11 < Mike1> holyolli: i read ur mail :(( 23:11 < holyolli> mike!!! nice to see you! 23:11 < Mike1> holy is nice to see you too 23:11 < holyolli> mike: i'm really sorry for that 23:12 < mnemoc> Mike1: they are normal cpan's modules ;) 23:12 < Mike1> holyolli: its ok, i understand the cituation 23:12 < Mike1> mnemoc: hehe :) 23:12 < holyolli> mike: btw. /me has cpl-ifr-check on montay...! ;-) 23:12 < Mike1> mnemoc: te perdonare la vida entonces :P 23:12 < mnemoc> doh :( ..... i'll add perl-xml as a pkg 23:12 < Mike1> holyolli: pretty cool!!! i wish you the best of the lucks :) 23:13 < holyolli> mike: it will be ok - the checks before that one are much more harder ;-) 23:13 < holyolli> mike: thx 23:13 < holyolli> mike: it's a known route, 2 approaches and some airwork... piece of cake ;-)) 23:13 < Mike1> holyolli: good to know, anyways don't forget to behave ur self the day before the check alcoholy 23:14 < Mike1> sounds pretty simple indeed :) 23:14 < holyolli> *g* /* no comment */ 23:14 < Mike1> :P 23:14 < holyolli> mike: after the check, we'll probably have a big party...it's also the very last check here in the us 23:15 < Mike1> oh so you are going back to deutschland? 23:16 < holyolli> mike: probably 02. of august 23:16 < Mike1> oh :( 23:19 < holyolli> mike: but it doesn't matter if i'm in germany or in the us when i visit you. (the prices aren't that much different) 23:20 < Mike1> ah okis 23:23 < n00kie__> Hola Mike :)) 23:23 < Mike1> hola n00kie__ 23:23 < n00kie__> How are you? :) 23:24 < Mike1> good thanks and you >? 23:24 < n00kie__> Fine, thanks :) 23:25 < mnemoc> could be nice to get statistics like which % of the likes written on the channel are 'greetings' 23:25 < mnemoc> s/likes/lines/ 23:25 < Mike1> greetings 23:25 < Mike1> greetings 23:25 < Mike1> greetings 23:25 < Mike1> greetings 23:25 < Mike1> :PP 23:25 < Mike1> anyways its time for me to leave 23:25 < Mike1> cu all on monday 23:26 < mnemoc> happy weekend 23:27 < holyolli> cu mike 23:28 < n00kie__> bye mike :) 23:28 * holyolli also leaves now...cya 23:28 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-12.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 23:29 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:29 -!- Capri [~Capri@pD950E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:41 < mnemoc> what do i need installed to do a tar xZf 23:41 < mnemoc> ? 23:42 < mnemoc> tar (child): Cannot exec compress: No such file or directory 23:43 < tfing> you need compress 23:43 < tfing> the ncompress package 23:43 < mnemoc> doh :-\ i though 'compress' was a gfeneric name given by tar to compressors :( 23:43 < mnemoc> thanks 23:43 < tfing> nope ;) 23:44 < tfing> it's the old unix compressor 23:49 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox, dexter 23:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox, dexter --- Log closed Sun Jul 20 00:00:23 2003