--- Log opened Sun Jul 20 00:00:23 2003
--- Day changed Sun Jul 20 2003
00:05 < mnemoc> this damn securecrt doesn't beep :(
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03:00 < laborratte> rehi
03:30 < knoti> rehi
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04:16 < mnemoc> hi fake
04:16 < fake_> hi
04:16 < fake_> i got kicked out again
04:16 < fake_> grrr....
04:16 < fake_> kicked by my telco
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04:21 < fake> hi.
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04:21 < mnemoc> :|
04:22 < SMP> didum
04:22 * SMP ircing almost naked
04:23 < mnemoc> o_O
04:28 * fake is lying in bed with his c1mhp and _is_ n3kk1d
04:28 < fake> but you don't want to know that ;)
04:29 < fake> and i'll get some rest now. it's gonna be long, hard, lousy, boring sunday/
04:29 < fake> bye!
04:29 < SMP> cu
04:32 < mnemoc> gn8 fake
04:46 * SMP n8
04:46 < mnemoc> n8 naked SMP
04:47 < mistik1> bidi bidi bidi
04:50 < mnemoc> everybody seems to be drunk :\
04:52 < mistik1> haha
04:52 < mistik1> nah not drunk
04:52 < mistik1> just bloody tired
04:53 < mnemoc> go to sleep
04:53 < mistik1> I'm not sleepy
04:53 < mistik1> just bone weary
04:53 < mistik1> been working around the house all day
04:54 < mistik1> and tomorrow at last my kitchen will be complete
04:54 < mnemoc> and sleeping is not useful to solve that?
04:54 < mnemoc> r u building your own kitchen?
04:55 < mistik1> heh, i'm layed out in my bed as we speak so i'm resting
04:55 < mistik1> yes I am
04:55 < mistik1> everything is done now cept the drawers (which are all cut) and those get assembled and installed tomorrow
04:56 < mnemoc> :o
04:56 < mnemoc> is that your hobbie?
04:57 < mistik1> best news I've heard today is that my toner was shipped Wednesday, so will be here Monday latest
04:57 < mistik1> after that rocklinux here I come
04:57 < mistik1> I am a professional carpenter that spent a great deal of time teaching himself computers to the level of a unix sysadmin
04:58 < mnemoc> 5 days??? does it came from mars?
04:58 < mnemoc> doh!...
04:58 < mistik1> should have been here yesterday
04:58 < mistik1> I dont expect it on sunday, so monday it is
04:59 < mnemoc> express shipping :\
04:59 < mistik1> the post office would have been faster in this case but the shipper choose UPS
04:59 < mistik1> It was ebay auction
05:00 < mistik1> I had no choice of shipping method
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09:16 < fake> h/away
09:17 < fake> good morning!
09:19 < fake> ...
09:19 < fake> (no, i din't expect anyone to be awake yet.)
09:21 < Aard> moin
09:21 < fake> o_O
09:21 < fake> Aard: don't tell me you aren't _still_ awake?
09:22 < Aard> fake: no. I was drunk last night -> went to bed soon
09:23 < Aard> (if i have more than 4 free days I'm most likely _still_ awake at this time ;) )
09:25 < fake> Aard: ah, now you have enough time to enjoy your 'kater' ;)
09:25 < fake> i'll be away now, small trip to nuernberg over regensburg
09:25 < Aard> fake: *patsch*
09:25 < fake> cu tonight, i guess
09:26 < Aard> ff
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09:29 < christ|an> good morning
09:29 < christ|an> let's rock the day :)
09:31 < Aard> christ|an: calm down
09:41 < christ|an> hm?
09:42 < christ|an> have i done anything wrong?
09:42 < christ|an> or do you wanna sleep and i'm to loud? :)
09:54 < rxr> re
10:05 < laborratte> mornign
10:13 < christ|an> re
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10:30 < d3mian> hi
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10:44 < laborratte> hi d3mian
10:46 < d3mian> hallo laborratte
10:48 < n00kie> Heya d3mian :))
10:49 < n00kie> Hi laborratte :)
10:49 < d3mian> hi good n00kie
10:49 < d3mian> http://demian.homelinux.net/finca/
10:51 < d3mian> u guys know a place where to post that page - a sales site maybe - ?
10:53 < n00kie> Uhm d3mian
10:53 < n00kie> Pics don't work and it's spanish
10:53 < n00kie> Do you have an english version of your homepage?
10:53 < n00kie> Or resume
10:53 < n00kie> Or whatever it is
10:53 < n00kie> :)
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10:54 < d3mian> hehe
10:54 < d3mian> sure.. but not available now
10:54 < d3mian> :(
10:55 < d3mian> i am selling a territory
10:55 < d3mian> costa rica
10:55 < d3mian> and pics dunt work.. lemme see
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10:56 < christ|an> hmmm
10:56 < dexter> hi all
10:56 < christ|an> costa rica - near mike1 :)
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10:56 < d3mian> yes..
10:56 < d3mian> u know him ?
10:56 < christ|an> yeah
10:56 < Nebukadneza> hi
10:56 < d3mian> personally ?
10:56 < n00kie> Hey christ|an :)
10:56 < christ|an> no
10:56 < Nebukadneza> :)
10:56 < d3mian> hi n00kie
10:57 < d3mian> hi Nebukadneza
10:57 * Nebukadneza is tired
10:57 < n00kie> Hi d3mian :)
10:57 < christ|an> n00kie: lets buy this terretory to be alwas near to mike :=
10:57 < christ|an> n00kie: good morning
10:57 < d3mian> ?
10:57 < d3mian> wtf
10:57 < n00kie> Ehh d3mian
10:57 < n00kie> You're selling a country?
10:57 < christ|an> afk
10:57 < n00kie> You own a country?
10:57 < n00kie> o.O
10:58 * christ|an is away: ...
10:58 < Nebukadneza> christ|an: hab gestern rock nommal reinstallt ... mit *allem*, und der gleiche fehler
10:58 < d3mian> ?
10:58 < Nebukadneza> obwohl das paket bash installiert is wird /bin/sh nicht angelegt
10:58 < n00kie> Nebukadneza: What Error?
10:58 < d3mian> no!
10:58 < d3mian> a part of the country.. alittle territory :p
10:58 < n00kie> hehe
10:58 < Nebukadneza> cannot open /bin/sh while he sould usually exec. the initscripts
10:59 < d3mian> why da u want to be always near to mike christ|an ?
10:59 < n00kie> Because we like him much :)
11:00 < Nebukadneza> n00kie: any idea?
11:00 < Nebukadneza> its rock 2.0.0 beta 6 desktop
11:00 < d3mian> umm.. not common feeling here .. but that's ok
11:00 < n00kie> d3mian: What weather is in cr?
11:01 < d3mian> dunno.. i like it :p
11:01 < n00kie> Nebukadneza: hmm
11:01 < d3mian> sometimes cold.. sometimes hot..
11:01 < Nebukadneza> d3mian: somtimes cold ...
11:01 < n00kie> boot from the boot cd, mount the root partition, uninstall the bash package with mine and reinstall it with mine
11:01 < n00kie> maybe it works
11:01 < Nebukadneza> when can i come?
11:01 < d3mian> i prefer hot
11:02 < d3mian> trying to get away from cold
11:02 < n00kie> d3mian: Cold?
11:02 < n00kie> In CR?
11:02 < Nebukadneza> d3mian: all higher then 10C is nothing for me
11:02 < n00kie> There should be 40 Degrees Celsium minimum :)
11:02 < n00kie> uah Nebukadneza
11:02 < n00kie> Jety
11:02 < Nebukadneza> n00kie: i made this ... but then he made errors like cant open shared lib's
11:03 < d3mian> here is 40C and it's abit cold
11:03 < d3mian> when is hot.. temperature is higher.. btw it's night.. so temperature is down
11:03 < Nebukadneza> this is what you call "cold" ?
11:04 < n00kie> d3mian: What's the standard temperature in cr
11:04 < n00kie> ?
11:04 < Nebukadneza> here are 30C ... in germany! and its 11:04 in the morning
11:04 < n00kie> 27C in Austria/Tyrol
11:04 < n00kie> Nebukadneza: Maybe you should try reinstall rock
11:04 < Nebukadneza> n00kie: i tryed this 3 times
11:04 < d3mian> not reinstall never a distro
11:05 < d3mian> what's ur prob Nebukadneza ?
11:05 < Nebukadneza> cannot open /bin/sh while he sould usually exec. the initscripts
11:05 < Nebukadneza> and if i reinstall bash with mine from the cd i get errors like cant open shared lib's
11:06 < n00kie> maybe a dependency fault
11:06 < n00kie> but I cannot believe this
11:06 < n00kie> bash has nearly no dependencies :)
11:06 < Nebukadneza> i dont think so ... he should say something in the installation of the pkg's ...
11:06 < n00kie> Maybe your CD is destroyed and has errors...
11:07 < d3mian> hey
11:07 < Nebukadneza> he installed all correctly and didnt made readerrors ...
11:07 < d3mian> so arent u accessing rock ?
11:07 < d3mian> i mean starting a shell ?
11:07 < Nebukadneza> no
11:07 < n00kie> Poor Nebukadneza
11:07 < d3mian> boot from another place
11:07 < Nebukadneza> he hangs up while booting
11:07 < d3mian> and check the link of /bin/sh with /bin/bash
11:07 < Nebukadneza> i am now in my debian ...
11:08 < Nebukadneza> there is no /bin/sh
11:08 < d3mian> and try to run a chroot into the rock
11:08 < Nebukadneza> hm
11:08 < d3mian> so do a link to /bin/bash
11:08 < Nebukadneza> my problem: i dont know anything abou chroot :)
11:09 < Nebukadneza> so
11:09 < Nebukadneza> i am root in my debian and mounted the rock partition on mnt ... whats now?
11:09 < d3mian> chroot changes the root partition to the directory u specify
11:10 < d3mian> do this:
11:10 < d3mian> chroot /mnt /bin/bash -login
11:10 < Nebukadneza>  only in the shell in wich i type it, or global?
11:10 < d3mian> just in ur shell
11:10 < Nebukadneza> bash in bin doesnt exist
11:12 < d3mian> umm
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11:13 < d3mian> rock failed installing..
11:13 < d3mian> so
11:13 < Nebukadneza> jep ... sounds like that
11:13 < Nebukadneza> but if i reinstall its the same :)
11:13 < d3mian> ensure the packages in base were good installed
11:14 < knoti> moin
11:14 < Nebukadneza> how can i?
11:14 < Nebukadneza> morghn knoti
11:14 < n00kie> I am hungry
11:14 < d3mian> and do this now: grep -r bash /var/adm/flists*
11:14 < rxr> Nebukadneza: what is exactly missing in your installation =
11:14 < d3mian> which rock ?
11:14 < d3mian> a development snapshot ?
11:15 < Nebukadneza> 2.0.0 beta 6 desktop
11:15 < Nebukadneza> binary cd
11:15 < Nebukadneza> grep -r bash /var/adm/flists* lists really much
11:15 < Nebukadneza> rxr: in the installation nothing ... but bash isnt there
11:16 < Nebukadneza> grep -r bash var/adm/flists* | less    <--<-- there is really much ... most are xpm's of kde
11:17 < d3mian> try grepping "bin/bash".. but i think bash is not really there.., and possibly a lot of stuff too
11:18 < Nebukadneza> ok
11:18 < Nebukadneza> bash isnt there
11:18 < Nebukadneza> ack
11:18 < Nebukadneza> i have to go
11:18 < Nebukadneza> cya
11:18 < Nebukadneza> and thanx
11:18 < Nebukadneza> i'll be ree later
11:18 < d3mian> rxr will help more than me
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11:19 < d3mian> cu 2
11:19 < d3mian> http://hackdaworld.dyndns.org/~demian/finca/finca.html -> links fixed
11:19 < rxr> hm - strange
11:23 < d3mian> rxr: btw.. i heard a rumor.. will u come over here ?
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12:18 < tcr> moin all
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12:38 < Nebukadneza> hi
12:38 < tcr> moin
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12:48 < blindcoder> hi all
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13:12 < rxr> moin tcr
13:12 < rxr> hi blindcoder
13:13 < tcr> moin rxr
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13:18 < blindcoder> hi rxr
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13:23 < strat50s> hi there :)
13:23 < tcr> moin
13:27 < Nebukadneza> how can you translate "purchase instructions"
13:28 < tcr> in which language?
13:28 < Nebukadneza> to german
13:28 < Nebukadneza> :)
13:29 < strat50s> god bless the one who transate the documentation to Spanish :)
13:29 < tcr> do you mean a perfect translation, or only that you get the meaning?
13:29 < Nebukadneza> the meaning
13:29 < Nebukadneza> not wordly translation
13:29 < Nebukadneza> "kauftipps" ... "kaufanleitung" is a bit crappy
13:30 < tcr> Kaufanweisungen
13:30 < Nebukadneza> hmm
13:30 < Nebukadneza> Hinweis zum Kaufen wouldnt be bad
13:31 < tcr> I agree
13:31 < Nebukadneza> :)
13:31 < blindcoder> "Hinweis(e) zum Einkauf" sounds better IMO
13:32 < Nebukadneza> jep
13:32 < Nebukadneza> this is better
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14:41 < esden> hi al
14:45 < daja77> hi esden
14:47 < esden> hi daja77 
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14:51 < A-Tui> hi all
14:52 < A-Tui> ops i have an error with bash scripting, can anyone paste me the hook_eval function from scripts/funcions?
14:56 < esden> o_O
14:56 < esden> A-Tui: one moment
14:57 < esden> in query
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14:57 < A-Tui> ok esden:)
14:58 < laborratte> hi
14:59 < daja77> hi
14:59 < esden> hi laborratte 
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16:21 < christ|an> re :)
16:21 * christ|an is away: I'm busy
16:21 * christ|an is back (gone 00:00:02)
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16:27 < dreamind> Hi
16:35 < christ|an> hi dreamind
16:36 < christ|an> dreamind: how are you?
16:37 < dreamind> hi christ|an
16:37 < dreamind> well its way too hot here :)
16:41 < christ|an> germnay?
16:41 < Nebukadneza> *grgr*
16:41 < Nebukadneza> 37C
16:41 < christ|an> lol
16:41 < christ|an> Nebukadneza: lets go eat an ice
16:43 < Nebukadneza> christ|an: i've eaten already one
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16:43 < christ|an> let's eat one more
16:43 < Nebukadneza> does anybody know the current version of rtcw-et?
16:43 < Nebukadneza> christ|an: yep ... give me :/_\
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16:43 < christ|an> :O
16:43 * christ|an gives Nebukadneza an ice
16:44 < Nebukadneza> does anybody know the current version of rtcw-et? <--<-- *argh*
16:44 * Nebukadneza takes the ice and and says thanks to christ|an
16:44 < christ|an> whats this?
16:44 * christ|an where is my money? :)
16:44 < christ|an> grr
16:44 < Nebukadneza> return to casel wolfenstein - enemy territorry ... a freeware-multiplayer rtcw with native linux client
16:44 < christ|an> Nebukadneza: where is my money? :)
16:44 * Nebukadneza runns away without paying the ice
16:45 < christ|an> you are a little gamer kiddie :)
16:45 < christ|an> you are a little gam0r kiddie :)
16:46 < Nebukadneza> why not? its linux :)
16:46 < christ|an> |_| 4r3 4 |I77L3 g4/\/\()R :)
16:47 < Nebukadneza> . /\/0 |'/\/\ /\/07
16:47 < Nebukadneza> *hrhr*
16:47 < Nebukadneza> 1337peak kann ich auch
16:47 < christ|an> lol
16:48 < christ|an> eport lang @ de
16:48 < christ|an> x
16:48 < christ|an> :)
16:48 * Nebukadneza hrt seinem freund zu, der grad sein 4tes set mixt
16:49 * christ|an is away: c++0rn
16:51 < Nebukadneza> ll
16:54 < Nebukadneza> Ping reply from niven.freenode.net : 0.59 second(s)
16:54 < Nebukadneza> w0w
16:54 < Nebukadneza> not bad ...
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17:22 < daja77> hi Freak, how are things in Oslo?
17:22 < Nebukadneza> Oslo?
17:22 < Nebukadneza> is it cold there?
17:23 < knoti>  hi
17:23 < Freak> nope not really
17:24 < Freak> Nebukadneza: might wanna ask wetter.com
17:24 < Nebukadneza> Freak: how much C?
17:24 < Freak> 27
17:24 < Nebukadneza> ahh
17:24 < Nebukadneza> here are 35
17:24 < Freak> so what?
17:24 < daja77> hi knoti
17:25 < Freak> dicksizewar?!
17:25 < Nebukadneza> germany==35C
17:25 < daja77> hehe Freak wanna lose ...
17:26 < daja77> Freak: I mean how is it between lots of debian people?
17:27 < Freak> uhm well
17:27 < Freak> they see us as aliens mostly
17:27 < Freak> because
17:28 < Freak> we actually missed all debconf
17:28 < Freak> we just come here for LAN ;P
17:30 < knoti> hi daja
17:30 < knoti> sco is ridicules aren't they
17:31 < rxr> re
17:33 < daja77> knoti: sure, dont wanna buy a license?
17:33 < daja77> :)
17:35 < knoti> daja77: If they tell me which code in the kernel is derived from theirs I'll purge it and everything will be fine :)
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17:52 < daja77> hehe I think they'd have to admit that they used linux code for unixware ...
17:53 < daja77> debugging granny's pc remote is cool ...
17:56 < christ|an> I've written my first C++ programm :)
17:56 < christ|an> am i go(o)d or not? :)=
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18:03 < knoti> christ|an hello world ?
18:04 -!- phoen][x [~phoenix@a81-14-129-4.net-htp.de] has joined #rocklinux
18:04 < christ|an> no :) a little "text editor"
18:04 < phoen][x> hey guys
18:04 < christ|an> wanna see code? :)
18:04 < daja77> nope
18:05 < phoen][x> i'm reading throught the rock linux guide and i'm wondering how to keep rocklinux up to date - did i overread something or is it trivial?
18:05 < rxr> phoen][x: the guide - or the new handbook
18:06 < SMP> hi
18:06 < rxr> hi SMP
18:06 < christ|an> hi SMP
18:07 < phoen][x> rxr: got a url handy?
18:07 < phoen][x> i'm reading this: http://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide.download
18:07 < rxr> phoen][x: outdated
18:07 < SMP> rxr: do you think the LSM is of any use? if so, it should really be updated
18:08 < phoen][x> rxr: ah. so what should i read instead of that one?
18:08 < tfing_> rxr: btw, the link on the front page points to http://www.rocklinux.org/www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-7/240.html which is not correct
18:08 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/rene/rock-handbook/
18:08 < phoen][x> rxr: you are welcome
18:08 < rxr> tfing_: YES - I aked the PR person three times to fix the link
18:08 < daja77> huh?!
18:08 < rxr> now she quit ...
18:09 < rxr> phoen][x: but the update thing might not be completely present - it will be in some days
18:09 < rxr> or even tonight ...
18:09 < tfing_> rxr: yeah, i read that :/
18:09 < rxr> I'm currently writing on the handbook in this second ...
18:09 < phoen][x> rxr: so rocklinux features a port-dir? or does it use another approach?
18:10 < rxr> tfing_: I have no access to that area ...
18:10 < rxr> phoen][x: it features a ports repository and has some script
18:10 < daja77> *gna* it sucks having to learn stupid stuff, instead working on rock
18:10 < rxr> do either update a package and it's dependencies - or the whole system
18:10 < rxr> but you can also run binary update in some weeks - when the serves will be set up ...
18:11 < tfing_> rxr: ok
18:11 < phoen][x> rxr: righties. i shall give it a try then.
18:12 < rxr> tfing_: we will move typo3 for the web-page next week
18:12 < tfing_> typo3 ?
18:14 < SMP> rxr: [reminder] LSM?
18:16 < mnemoc> distrowatcher.com is also really outdated
18:17 * daja77 off for learning cu
18:17 < mnemoc> apropos rock-handbook: what happened with the cliff-wiki?
18:17 < mnemoc> bye daja77
18:18 < christ|an> did anyone know why waimea.org is already down for a long time?
18:23 * mnemoc is out
18:34 < rxr> SMP: yes - phoned clifford
18:34 < rxr> the url on the homepage should be fixed now ...
18:34 < rxr> the guide url, too (but it takes some time to show up on all .html files ...)
18:35 < rxr> I'll update the LSM
18:38 < SMP> which package is gnome-config in? :)
18:39 < SMP> do we have a flist searchengine on the web? does this sound like I should write one? ;)
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18:41 < rxr> SMP: we do not have a flist search engine - but it would be trival to add one somewhere ...
18:41 < rxr> SMP: LSM update - I hope you like it - if not send a patch ;-)
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18:45 < SMP> rxr: great :)
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18:53 < rxr> I think this night a full stage-9 reference build finishes
18:54 < rxr> so new .cache files and many errors to fix ...
18:54 < rxr> (and I already fixed some during the build ...)
18:55 < SMP> cool
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18:55 < rxr> and a full reference build with all packages - not just a desktop target
18:56 < rxr> I'll run such a beast every week soon - I just need new DDR RAM to speedup my new Athlon box - currently it is running under-clocked due to the non-333Mhz RAM ...
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19:00 < SMP> hmm, where's mike... I think gnucash uses gnome, not gnome2 ..
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19:04 < rxr> SMP: which text is more professional:
19:04 < rxr> "Check here if xyz should be used ....."
19:04 < rxr> or
19:05 < rxr> "Enable this option to enable xyz for ....."
19:05 < mnemoc> eanble
19:05 < rxr> I think we should replace all the text in the .hlp files with the 2nd line
19:05 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
19:05 < rxr> mnemoc: have you some for the .hlp texts ?
19:06 < mnemoc> mmm... not yet :(
19:06 < SMP> two occurences of 'enable' in one sentence sounds bad
19:07 < mnemoc> Check this option to enable xyz for...
19:07 < SMP> ok.
19:08 < mnemoc> rxr?
19:09 < mnemoc> SMP: should i do something to get an ssh beeping?
19:10 < SMP> ENOTUNDERSTAND
19:11 < mnemoc> i'm connected through ssh from securecrt with (sound bells enabled) to a rock
19:11 < mnemoc> but this shit doesn't beep when it should
19:13 < knoti> mnemoc: that's a feature
19:13 * mnemoc listening...
19:13 < mistik1> try putty
19:14 < mnemoc> :|
19:14 < mistik1> crt is anal
19:14 < mnemoc> ok...
19:14 < mnemoc> anal?? o_O
19:14 < mistik1> I just dont like that app
19:14 < mnemoc> i saw that :|
19:15 < mnemoc> putty beeps? ;)
19:15 < mistik1> It has for me
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19:15 < mistik1> donno that I did anything special for it to do so
19:16 < SMP> *sigh* bdb woes
19:16 < mistik1> bdb?
19:17 < SMP> why is there no db_185 compat in our bdb4* packages?
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19:22 < mnemoc> iirc bdb33 has
19:23 < SMP> ... which is not useful if a configure script tests for db_185.h, then db4/db_185.h
19:24 < SMP> I'd love to try a build without bdb33 and bdb40 ...
19:24 < mnemoc> you need to patch perl5
19:27 < rxr> mnemoc: ah  - yes I forgot there is a patch pending ...
19:27 < mnemoc> you will apply it??  happy happy joy joy
19:29 < rxr> mnemoc: yes
19:29 < rxr> when I'm back from a tea-session
19:29 < mnemoc> cool... thanks ;)
19:29 < mnemoc> happy tea
19:29 < rxr> it should be "Select this option to enable" .... or s.th. like this
19:30 < rxr> I really dislike this "check" ...
19:30 < rxr> a useful inspiration is also the linux config option description
19:30 < mnemoc> i have no problem with select... i hated 'if xyz should be use'
19:31 < rxr> would someone like to take some to improve the texts?
19:31 < SMP> why the f*ck does the gnucash configure test for qt ..
19:31 < mnemoc> i can help you tomorrow... but today i'm really busy
19:32 < SMP> there seems to be absolutely no qt code in gnucash
19:32 * rxr away consuming some tea and taking a look on some rockplug problems ...
19:33 < mnemoc> mistik1: how can i 'save' the current putty session?
19:34 < mistik1> you save it before you login, sorry
19:34 < mnemoc> :(
19:34 < mistik1> when you do all your settings goto the tab and save it
19:35 * mnemoc hating mistik1 
19:35 < mistik1> uh oh
19:35 * mistik1 hides ;-0
19:39 < mnemoc> arggh... config window close after an error connection and i lost the changes :(
19:39 < phoen][x> erm another one: i booted using the rocklinux 2.0.0-b6 bootcd and i want to install 2.0.0-b7 - is that possible or not?
19:40 < mistik1> you know, i'm getting more and more sick of these distros daily
19:41 < phoen][x> use the one true distro called windows xp then ;)
19:41 < mistik1> I'm so tired of do it this way on one ditro but it dont work like that on the other, grr
19:41 < mistik1> phoen][x: I love guns
19:41 < phoen][x> :D
19:41 < mistik1> dont MAKE me have to shoot you
19:41 * phoen][x runs a /whois
19:42 < mistik1> ;)
19:42 < phoen][x> ah well, its highly unlikely that i'll ever meet you in person, so.. :)
19:42 < mistik1> I have yet to ever boot Rock but I still find myself gravitating towards it
19:43 < mistik1> I want to just be able to use ONE distro for all and configure them in the manner of thier purpose and rocklinux seems to fit that bill on paper anyway
19:44 < phoen][x> so i guess there's no way to install b7 with the b6 isos? ah well, i'll just install b6 then and see if i can handle an upgrade.
19:44 < mistik1> when is a stable 2.0 due?
19:44 < mistik1> how long is the average upgrade cycle?
19:44 < SMP> arrrgh
19:45 < SMP> mistik1: when it's 'stable' .)
19:45 < mistik1> Is there yet an easy 'package' upgrade method?
19:45 < phoen][x> mistik1: one should never ask stuff like that in OSS channels :)
19:46 < SMP> 'package' upgrade method? like mine -i ?
19:46 < mistik1> phoen][x: I know better too, however a feeling is gained by using something when others have not as to lend you the ability to make a better guess than another
19:47 < mistik1> SMP: so 'mine -i openssh' for example?
19:47 < SMP> I don't know what a 'package upgrade method' is supposed to be
19:48 < mistik1> apt-get  upgrade
19:48 < SMP> but 'mine -i openssh.gem' installs/upgrades openssh from openssh.gem
19:48 < mnemoc> SMP same but without modifing /etc
19:48 < mistik1> ok
19:48 < mistik1> thanks
19:48 < mistik1> ttfn, house work calls
19:49 < SMP> for apt-get upgrade you'd have to ask rxr for Synchronictiy
19:49 < SMP> ESLPELING
19:49 < phoen][x> the guy who build the isos did a great job: the kernel even supports my brand new SATA stuff
19:52 < phoen][x> quite impressive
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20:09 < christ|an> re
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20:19 < phoen][x> hmm, what about this one: is there a way to use my local tarball repository for rock? isdn aint that fast, and i should have most of the tarballs.
20:20 < dreamind> Hi
20:20 < phoen][x> lo dreamind
20:21 < SMP> phoen][x: ./scripts/Download | grep local
20:21 < SMP> ahh whatever. it's there
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20:28 < phoen][x> SMP: got my last message?
20:28 < SMP> no
20:28 * phoen][x slaps freenode
20:28 < christ|an> lalala
20:28 < phoen][x> quoting
20:28 < phoen][x> 20:26 < phoen][x> SMP: hmm doesnt really work because it tries to fetch from subdirectories
20:29 < phoen][x> 20:27 < phoen][x> like '/foo/base/bc/bc-1.06.tar.gz' where i would expect '/foo/bc-1.06.tar.gz'
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20:34 < christ|an> FUCKING NETSPLIT
20:34 < christ|an> :(
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20:43 < christ|an> I need a good bootable Linux for my old old laptop ... any ideas?
20:47 < Aard> christ|an: how many ram?
20:47 < christ|an> wait
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20:48 < laborratte> rehi
20:49 < christ|an> 24 MB
20:50 < christ|an> its a pentium 75 mhz
20:50 < christ|an> running WIN 95
20:50 < christ|an> :)
20:51 < christ|an> Aard: any idea?
20:51 < christ|an> re laborratte
20:52 < Aard> christ|an: boot my dietlinux rescue cd (http://dietlinux.de). send me bugreports, and help me improve the system
20:52 < christ|an> Aard: thanks :) i will try it
20:54 < christ|an> wow exactly what i need :)
20:54 < christ|an> i hope to see a linux shell soon on this fucking win 95 PC :)
20:56 -!- laborratte is now known as hopelessOwl
20:57 < SMP> hopelessOwl: are you ever not hopeless?
20:57 < hopelessOwl> nah.
20:58 < hopelessOwl> hi SMP , btw
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21:01 < SMP> WTF are 'Gnome configuration applet libraries' ...
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21:10 < SMP> I just wanted to test gnucash and now I find myself updating half of package/gnome14/ over ISDN ...
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21:15 < hopelessOwl> hi blindcoder
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21:41 < tcr> moin all
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21:48 < christ|an> kann man von einem dvd laufwerk booten?
21:48 < Aard> christ|an: ja
21:48 < christ|an> wie?
21:49 < christ|an> im bios hat man nur die option CDROM und HDD und zahlen 1-46 von denen man booten kann
21:51 < SMP> *grrrr* Mike1
21:52 < christ|an> hi is coming on monday
21:54 < Aard> christ|an: use CD-ROM.
21:54 < christ|an> doesnt work
21:54 < Aard> hm. but should.
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22:56 < LocalHero> Hi all
22:56 < mnemoc> hi LocalHero
22:58 < LocalHero> mnemoc, whazzup
22:58 < mnemoc> i don't want to code anymore :(
22:59 < LocalHero> mnemoc, haha, oki, why not
22:59 < mnemoc> my head doesn't want to let me do it :|
22:59 < mnemoc> and you?
22:59 < LocalHero> mnemoc, ahh, maybe you should take a break..
23:00 < LocalHero> Me.. I got a new iso server :).. Configuring it now
23:01 < hopelessOwl> hi LocalHero
23:01 < n00kie> moin :)
23:01 < LocalHero> hopelessOwl, hi :)
23:01 * hopelessOwl hands mnemoc some pills against headache over
23:01 < hopelessOwl> hi n00kie
23:01 < mnemoc> thanks... i need them
23:01 < n00kie> Heya hopelessOwl :)
23:02 < hopelessOwl> :-(
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23:04 * mnemoc needs some water for the pills.... brb
23:05 * hopelessOwl gives water to mnemoc 
23:06 < mnemoc> 'hope' it helps
23:06 < hopelessOwl> hmm. good luck
23:07 < LocalHero> hmm, i installed rock minimal-beta6
23:08 < LocalHero> Why cant i save files with lynx. It says it cant write
23:08 < mnemoc> mount
23:09 < mnemoc> is rw?
23:09 < LocalHero> mnemoc, yupp, its the /tmp dir and i can create files there
23:09 < LocalHero> hmm, i get a funny message with dnetc
23:09 < LocalHero> [Jul 20 21:12:44 UTC] Net::failed to resolve name "euro.v29.distributed.net"
23:09 < LocalHero>                       error 2: No such file or directory
23:09 < LocalHero> huh?
23:10 < LocalHero> Does it need nslookup or some other library? It doesnt have nslookup or dig
23:13 < Freak> ping?
23:15 < LocalHero> Freak, ping works
23:15 < Freak> tnx
23:19 < daja77> re
23:19 < mnemoc> wb daja77
23:19 < daja77> thx
23:19 * daja77 now happy with his rock box
23:19 < mnemoc> describe it
23:20 < mnemoc> or, is it a 'her'?
23:20 < daja77> my soundcard works, I made mplayer use rtc for syncing ...
23:21 < daja77> so it now really rocks ;-)
23:22 < mnemoc> :-)
23:23 < daja77> even the scanner was detected
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23:25 < mnemoc> rockplug?
23:26 < daja77> hwscan
23:30 < daja77> still pretty cool
23:30 * n00kie thinks his head is exploding :(
23:30 < daja77> and is it?
23:30 < n00kie> nah, not cool ;)
23:30 * daja77 just a bit nosy
23:33 < daja77> fscking adobe suckers
23:34 < mnemoc> ?
23:34 < daja77> I wanted to download acrobat reader 6 and 5.1 for win for someone, 5.1 is still linked but removed
23:35 < daja77> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html
23:36 < daja77> hmm 5.05 still available, strange
23:36 < SMP> probably because of some security issue
23:37 < daja77> but having dead links is crap
23:39 < daja77> anyway, /me off to bed, cu
23:40 < mnemoc> n8 daja77
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23:51 < rxr> re
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23:54 < LocalHero> rxr, re
23:54 < LocalHero> rxr, now your account is gone again :).. New server
23:54 < A-Tui> hi
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23:55 < rxr> LocalHero: ah ...
23:55 < rxr> LocalHero: nice to see you here ...
23:55 < rxr> we quite decided about the layout of the files to go ...
23:56 < rxr> so if you just setup a new server it would be nice to change it ...
23:56 < rxr> the ROCK Linux top-level dir
23:56 < rxr> should only countain "official" and either "unofficial" or "third-party"
23:56 < rxr> whatever you like more
23:57 < LocalHero> rxr, yupp, it will take a while to configure things.
23:57 < LocalHero> rxr, oki, sound nice
23:57 < rxr> the unofficial or third-party will be filled with custom uploads - and the official just takes the once the tree maintainer put's there - which is currently /me - or maybe s.o. in the future for 2.2 or 3.0 or whatever
23:58 < rxr> so I also collect minimal generic router, ... ISOs and push them to the mirror sites
23:58 < rxr> for beta5 and beta6 I already did this
23:59 < LocalHero> oki
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