--- Log opened Tue Jul 22 00:00:59 2003
--- Day changed Tue Jul 22 2003
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00:08 < rxr> re
00:08 < jose> helos!
00:12 < SMP> re rxr
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00:16 < Mike1> SMP.
00:16 * jose is being ignored, but he doesn't know why! (sleep 15; /leave #rocklinux) ;-(
00:17 < Mike1> jose: http://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/mamadita.txt
00:17 < Mike1> :)
00:18 < SMP> hi Mike
00:19 < Mike1> cu all.
00:19 < jose> cu Mike1
00:19 < Mike1> jose: lee el chiste :)
00:20 < rxr> h iMi
00:20 < rxr> hi Mike1
00:20 < Mike1> yo rxr
00:21 < jose> Mike1 yep, a good one!
00:21 < esden> hi all
00:22 < esden> anyone still alive?
00:22 < jose> you guys have included sing in rock ?
00:22 < esden> sing?
00:22 * -> esden can not sing ;-)
00:23 < jose> yep, it's a ping utility!=> http://sourceforge.net/projects/sing
00:24 < esden> hmm ... I do not have sing on my box
00:26 < jose> well, thats nice package !, but i really dont know the way rock is taking now! so!... /me better keep quiet!
00:34 < SMP> hmm, xscreensaver made my cursor bold
00:41 < rxr> hm?
00:43 < rxr> oO - the gsmp traffic is getting higher each day ...
00:43 < rxr> we now have "148.68 GB" this month so far ...
00:43 < rxr> both last days had 12GB each ..
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00:44 < SMP> *fucking* svn
00:45 < SMP> W T F
00:46 < SMP> rxr: you moved package/powerpc to the wrong place
00:47 < rxr> hae ?
00:47 < SMP> arrgh
00:48 < SMP> my svn tree is completely fucked up
00:48 < SMP> it started checking out the contents of package/ in the root
00:49 < rxr> oOo ...
00:49 < rxr> user error ?
00:51 < rxr> ping ?
00:52 < esden> good night everyone
00:52 < SMP> I ran:
00:52 < SMP> svn up -N package/gnome14/
00:52 < rxr> godd night esden
00:52 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi
00:52 < SMP> svn rm --force package/gnome14/guppi
00:52 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi
00:52 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14
00:53 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi
00:53 < SMP> mkdir package/gnome14/guppi
00:53 < SMP> svn add package/gnome14/guppi
00:53 < SMP> svn up package/gnome14/guppi
00:54 < rxr> why all this ?
00:54 < SMP> blah! and then some other stuff
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00:54 < SMP> because I had my changes added and that conflicts with my patches applied by you
00:55 < rxr> a simple rm -r package/gnome14/guppi
00:55 < rxr> and svn up package/gnome14/guppi
00:55 < rxr> would have been enought ...
00:55 < rxr> should I try all this on a box here to see if the error is reproduceable ?
00:56 < SMP> no, there was some other stuff I did
00:56 < SMP> I don't care. I have my changes in pending patches because I don't trust svn anyway, so I'll just throw the tree away
00:57 < rxr> why don't you trust SVN ? During the last 600 revisions I had not a single problem - neither client nor server side ...
00:58 < SMP> two words: complex technology
00:58 < jsaw_> the seq "rm", "add", "up" is problematic.
00:59 < SMP> if I remember correctly, 'rm -rf' and 'svn up' is not sufficient either
01:00 < jsaw_> you may have to "
01:00 < jsaw_> svn cleanup"
01:00 < rxr> SMP: ok - complex technology is a valid point
01:01 * rxr just wiped out one of the disk in the RS/600
01:01 < rxr> +0
01:02 < rxr> palying with not-that-well documented boot loaders is not that funny ...
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01:34 < mnemoc> did gtk# patch arrived to the list? (two hours ago)
01:38 < rxr> I coudl open a IBM RS/6000 centre when I got thru all the "how to install a bootloader" trouble ...
01:38 < jsaw_> :)
01:38 < rxr> I rebooted the box the whole day
01:38 < rxr> and I'm still booting from a floppy ...
01:39 < rxr> mnemoc: the last mail from you here in my box was "[PATCH] unification of mono-..."
01:40 < rxr> wheeeeeeeee
01:41 < rxr> coooool now - finally - I see yaboot output in the OpenFirmeare prompt !!!
01:41 < rxr> Yeah.
01:41 < jsaw_> congrats
01:42 < rxr> cool - reiserfs access logs from yaboot scrolling by ...
01:42 < rxr> I already enabled full debugging in yaboot ...
01:42 < mnemoc> resent :(
01:42 < mnemoc> hi rxr
01:43 < rxr> did s.o. here know that a // in some tex-tools results in recursive search in all the subdirs?
01:43 < jsaw_> ?
01:44 < rxr> kpathsea
01:45 < rxr> I wondered why tetex s.th. scans all my home directory recursively - and since this was really annoying started debugging
01:45 < rxr> my HOME dir was accidently set to /home/rene/ (notice trailing slash)
01:45 < jsaw_> o_O
01:45 < rxr> so the tetex internals made a /home/rene//texmf out of it - and this // has the special meaning of recursive scanning the dir ...
01:46 < rxr> wow - the RS6000 now runs a kernel booted via yaboot
01:47 < jsaw_> yes. usb scan now detects joydev, mousedev etc.
02:26 < jsaw_> cu l8r
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03:09 < mistik1> evening folks
03:12 < jsaw_> hey, somebody else is awake, hi mistik1
03:12 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw
03:13 * rxr is awake, too ...
03:13 < rxr> but only a few more minutes.
03:13 < jsaw> oh
03:14 < rxr> this rs6000 kept me awake - X is not yet running in a useful "mode"
03:14 < rxr> of operation ...
03:14 < rxr> cu after sleep - n8
03:15 < jsaw> but at least the box is running...
03:15 < jsaw> gn8 rxr
03:15 < rxr> it is already running longer - it already crunched a wohle install target and a half system (desktop) target
03:15 < jsaw> !
03:15 < rxr> but since the old 1.3.11 (or .9 or so) was to limitating I exchanged the root fs to the new fresh build ...
03:16 < rxr> but since we have a rather polished ppc port deu to this iBook - it is just compiling it together - and everything run smoothly now - exept X11 on that Matrox card.
03:17 < rxr> in the next days I'll let the RS/6000 and the iBook build ROCK in a cluster - so I'll have more up-to-date ppc binaries in-time ...
03:18 < rxr> the only difference between the two boxes is the boot-up ... ;-)
03:18 < rxr> (and a modern and faster CPU in the iBook)
03:18 < mistik1> esden: you around>
03:18 < rxr> so cu - good night.
03:18 < jsaw> l8
03:19 < mistik1> g`night rxr
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03:56 < mistik1> anyone still up?
04:02 < jsaw> yep
04:04 < jsaw> mistik1: are u running current rock?
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04:20 < mistik1> jsaw: I'm not running rock at all yet
04:20 < mistik1> I'm downloading some ISOs now
04:21 < mistik1> rock seems to have a little gotcha to it
04:21 < mnemoc> ?
04:21 < mistik1> I was thinking I could start with a source build of my own...
04:22 < mistik1> the docs however say I need to do the build on a rock machine
04:22 < mnemoc> install a minimal, and over that build your own
04:22 < jsaw> for the non-native english speakers (/me), please rephrase the "gotcha" sentence
04:22 < mnemoc> you need an updated linux with devfs
04:22 < mistik1> whatever did people before there were iso
04:23 < mnemoc> i build my first rock over a rh6.2
04:23 < mistik1> mnemoc: Is that all it is?
04:23 < mnemoc> linux with devfs and curl mainly
04:23 < mistik1> darnit why not say so in the BUILD
04:24 < mnemoc> it doesn't?
04:24 < jsaw> I build it over SuSE whatever, but it was a pain ita to convince it to use devfs...
04:24 < mistik1> wasted 24 hours of posable build time
04:24 < mnemoc> devfs is the harder step
04:24 < mistik1> mnemoc: no it doesn;t
04:24 < mistik1> devfs is cheese
04:25 < mnemoc> and the harder ;)
04:25 < jsaw> mnemoc: would u dare to try rockplug from svn?
04:25 < jsaw> mistik1: devfs is cheese, why that?
04:25 < mnemoc> i don't have enough devices to make my test useful
04:25 < mistik1> jsaw: english slang meaning easy
04:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: doesn't matter. every tester counts (but _of course_ no obligation)
04:26 < mnemoc> mistik1: one important thing... avoid gcc2.96
04:26 < jsaw> mistik1: thx
04:26 < mnemoc> gcc2.95 is fine
04:27 < mistik1> ok
04:27 < mistik1> what of 3.x?
04:28 < mistik1> the minimal iso is here now anyway
04:28 < jsaw> 3.2.x is fine
04:28 < mistik1> do you guys have an email addy for esden ?
04:28 < mistik1> I believe he was the one working on a uClibc target
04:29 < mistik1> that is what i'm truly after in the end
04:29 < mistik1> I'm going to try the dietlibc target also but I preffer uClibc
04:29 < jsaw> esden is at rocklinux dot org
04:29 < mnemoc> mail the list... many ppl has worked with uclibc
04:29 < mistik1> I will join tonight
04:30 < mistik1> lemme go do that now
04:30 < mnemoc> but calm down... build a normal rock before
04:30 < mnemoc> make uclibc your only problem, not the whole rock idea
04:39 < mistik1> oh dont fear, I first must understand the system I admit
04:39 < mistik1> I'll be taking my time
04:39 < mistik1> brb, burning iso
04:42 < mnemoc> what target?
04:42 < mnemoc> minimal?
04:45 < mistik1> yes
04:47 * jsaw needs a few hours of sleep
04:48 < jsaw> cu guys
04:48 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw
04:49 < jsaw> gn8 mnemoc, gn8 mistik1 (have fun, I do since having switched to rock)
04:49 < jsaw> .oO(well, let's say more fun)
04:52 < mistik1> l8r jsaw
04:53 < mistik1> ouch!
04:53 < mistik1> no 3c905 driver on this disc
04:53 < mistik1> oh well no big deal I have other cards that are there
05:01 < mnemoc> mistik1: it has every single kernel module on it
05:03 < mnemoc> and iirc that specific driver is built-in
05:05 < mnemoc> # grep VORTEX .config
05:05 < mnemoc> CONFIG_VORTEX=y
05:11 < SMP> re
05:12 < mnemoc> wb SMP
05:22 < mistik1> mnemoc: so how would I handle this at the install prompt, just press enter instead of typing driver name?
05:23 < mnemoc> but... where do u need network for iso installing?
05:23 < mistik1> I realize that I dont as the install is taking place now, I ask only for future reference
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05:24 < mistik1> btw, I love the installer
05:25 < mistik1> It reminds me of the freeBSD tools
05:27 < mnemoc> i guess rockplug will be integrated in the installed, so no module selection will be needed
05:28 < mistik1> I need to go read more about this rockplug
05:29 < mistik1> this is the kudzu/hotplug type tool you guys were speaking on last week, yes?
05:29 < mnemoc> hotplug yes, kudzu no
05:29 < mnemoc> it detects and load modules
05:30 < mistik1> cool
05:30 < mnemoc> well... it don't load modules, it output sh code to do it
05:31 < mnemoc> modprobe foo
05:33 < mistik1> this minimal target is impressive
05:34 < mistik1> I was not expecting it to be quite this functional
05:35 < mnemoc> minimal currently is a full station without X11 and servers
05:35 < mistik1> so I see
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05:55 < mnemoc> hi n00kie
05:57 < n00kie> Heya mnemoc :)
05:57 < n00kie> How are you?
05:58 < mnemoc> with a nice headache... and you?
05:58 < n00kie> Fine, a bit tired, thanks :)
05:59 * n00kie gives mnemoc a Anti-Headache-Pill
05:59 < mnemoc> do u have water?
05:59 < n00kie> Yeah, too
05:59 < n00kie> Do you want some?
05:59 < mnemoc> thanks ;)
05:59 < n00kie> hehe
06:06 < mistik1> wohooo
06:06 < mistik1> Rock Linux RockS!!
06:07 < mnemoc> ?
06:08 < mnemoc> exactly what makes you scream?
06:13 < n00kie> <- Breakfast :)
06:38 < n00kie> er r
06:38 < n00kie> err
06:38 < n00kie> I can't control the new toaster o_O
06:39 < mistik1> mnemoc: I've been using linux for a lot of years so I see the implications of how certain programs/tools behave very quickly indeed
06:40 < mistik1> Put this togather with how rock linux is built, I have to say now that i've seen it booted "This is what I have been looking for for years"
06:40 < mistik1> I wish to hell I had found out about rock last december, you guys may have had a very interesting target indeed
06:42 < mnemoc> it's great to hear it... :-) ... you shall send a mail to the list, there are many persons behind rocklinux and everybody needs to see other ppl value their efort
06:42 < mistik1> definately
06:43 < mnemoc> n00kie: the toaster is your friend, look at *her*, do same talk, and do it softly
06:44 < mistik1> are you familiar with SME Server (formerly E-Smith) ?
06:44 < mnemoc> nope :-( sorry
06:44 < mistik1> that's ok
06:45 < mistik1> Its a linux distro that is a server out the box
06:45 < mistik1> very simple install virtually no console work at all as it has web-based tools for the most part
06:45 < mnemoc> secure-server out the box, or just server out the box?
06:45 < mistik1> Its quite secure
06:46 < mistik1> It started as a firewall distro iirc
06:46 < n00kie> mnemoc: Hehe
06:47 < mistik1> I was asked to do something like SME for a client
06:47 < mnemoc> on 2.1 we will empower server target, but that's just a prototype, the rock idea is to make specific targets
06:47 < mistik1> They would have preffered something custom but time constraints forced me to have them go ahead and use SME
06:48 < mnemoc> you are very wellcome to get involved and contribute :)
06:49 < mnemoc> you now you clients, they fit a profile, that profile needs a target
06:49 < mistik1> this is what I mean, If I knew of rock back then I would have simply made a target(or tried to) and just reuse it
06:50 < mnemoc> one of the best parts is that you can build that target for multiple architectures and burn cds :)
06:51 < mnemoc> the sad part is that almost noone knows it :(
06:52 < mnemoc> n00kie: is 'her' doing what you want?
06:58 < n00kie> nah
06:58 < n00kie> She doesn't puts out my breads
06:59 < n00kie> reboot, new kernel
06:59 < n00kie> brb
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07:00 < mistik1> mnemoc: now that I have booted rock, I'm completely rethinking my hardware setup
07:01 < mistik1> I have a 1ghz athlon in the parts drawer and I think rock will get put there
07:02 < SMP> any opinions if I should prefer a laptop with a GeForce FX Go5600 or an ATI Radeon 7500?
07:03 * SMP thinks the latter, even if it doesn't have that much bang
07:05 < mnemoc> cool, new keepalived released with O(1) scheduler ;)
07:06 * mnemoc doesn't like Radeon :(
07:08 < SMP> well at least there are good open source drivers for the Radeon
07:08 < SMP> AFAIK only a binary-only pile of junk from NVidia
07:10 < mnemoc> great reason to choose Radeon.....
07:10 * mnemoc plays under windose :)
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07:11 < mnemoc> hi d3mian
07:11 < d3mian> hi everyone
07:11 < mnemoc> como va la parcela? is it sold?
07:11 < d3mian> hehe, como sabes de esa finca ?
07:11 < mnemoc> you paste the link here ;)
07:11 < d3mian> and it is not sold yet
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07:12 < d3mian> maybe.. dunt remember :p
07:12 < Pyro> hallo
07:12 < Pyro> d3mian: wie gehts mein freund?
07:12 < mnemoc> hi Pyro
07:12 < mnemoc> export LANG=EN
07:12 < Pyro> mnemoc: hi.. guess wht i'm doing?
07:12 < d3mian> hoho, u Pyro
07:12 < d3mian> where are u connected from man ?
07:13 < Pyro> mnemoc: yeah sorry i was greeting my lazy friend d3bian :)
07:13 < d3mian> lazy :/
07:13 < mnemoc> after a hard mental work is decide freund can mean friend ;)
07:13 < d3mian> how are u Pyro ?
07:13 < Pyro> d3mian: i'm home
07:13 < d3mian> and where from ? adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net
07:13 < Pyro> d3mian: i'm fine thanks and u ?
07:14 < d3mian> me2
07:14 < Pyro> d3mian: don't worry too much about the host :) you know me i like to be moving here and there
07:14 < Pyro> mnemoc: yes indeed freund = friend there u go your german is improving :)
07:14 < d3mian> ok..
07:15 < Pyro> d3mian: how is Uni doing?
07:15 < blindcoder> moin
07:15 < Pyro> mnemoc: have u guessed what i am doing yet?
07:15 < Pyro> moin blindy
07:15 < mnemoc> coding?
07:15 < mnemoc> moin bc
07:15 < d3mian> Pyro: im on vacation.. tomorrow start the 'matricula'
07:15 < Pyro> mnemoc: that wasn't so hard was it :)
07:15 < d3mian> hi blindcoder
07:16 < mnemoc> :)
07:16 < Pyro> d3mian: so u are in "moncho"?
07:16 < d3mian> sure
07:16 < mnemoc> moncho?
07:16 < d3mian> from the hdw
07:16 < d3mian> the old and not maintained hdw..
07:16 < Pyro> d3mian: i've started my own company
07:16 < Pyro> no longer working for informatica
07:16 < d3mian> which one ?
07:17 < mnemoc> hacktheworld.com?
07:17 < Pyro> d3mian: just my own stuff, i got a nice office in Alajuela, you should come by sometime
07:17 < d3mian> i started my own too.. but i havent win money since i declared it a company of a lonely man :p
07:17 < Pyro> mnemoc: very close hackdaworld.dyndns.org
07:17 < d3mian> what is it about ?
07:17 < d3mian> if u need someone to code databases and empresarial applications for windows or commercial stuff.. call me!
07:17 < blindcoder> hmm
07:18 < mnemoc> mercenary work?
07:18 < d3mian> currently i am designing a data base for some chain of video clubes here in moncho
07:18 < Pyro> d3mian: the same boring stuff, clustering, kernel hacking, embedded systems, security consuting
07:18 < mnemoc> is moncho a place?
07:18 * d3mian feels starnge saying: "applications for windows"
07:18 < d3mian> mnemoc: yes.. my sweet home
07:19 < Pyro> mnemoc: moncho = tico way to say San Ramon which is d3mian 's town
07:19 < d3mian> demian@hdw.moncho.al.cr
07:19 < Pyro> d3mian: i tried to convince mnemoc to come work with me but he didn't want to
07:19 < d3mian> that's my virtual addr
07:19 < mnemoc> San Ramón looks more like a city than 'moncho' ;)
07:19 < Pyro> mnemoc: :PP
07:20 < d3mian> Pyro: but how many people would u need ? is it really growing ? with office and that ?
07:20 < Pyro> d3mian: anyways its nice that you are taking advantage of your skills to make some moeny
07:20 < d3mian> i need money
07:20 < Pyro> d3mian: its a whole perspective, and yes it growing
07:20 < blindcoder> who doesn't?
07:20 < Pyro> d3mian: you and blindcoder should consider prostitution
07:20 < mnemoc> Pyro: prepare your company for 3 years until i got this damn Security magister ;)
07:20 < d3mian> i tried it
07:21 < d3mian> but none wanted with mme
07:21 < Pyro> well d3mian actually you have prostituted yourself already by coding for win
07:21 < d3mian> i feel obsene
07:21 < mnemoc> me too!!
07:21 < Pyro> d3mian: no worries we've known u as a freak anyways
07:21 < d3mian> Pyro: but what about singapur ?
07:22 < Pyro> mnemoc: you area whore too?
07:22 < Pyro> d3mian: things have changed .. LOTS..
07:22 < d3mian> i really pray to leave this windows coding stuff and work in sth i like.. but i havent found a chance yet
07:22 < Pyro> d3mian: even i'm doing contracts to linuxlbas again
07:22 < d3mian> aham ?
07:22 < mnemoc> but i'll move to gtk# asaic ;)
07:22 < d3mian> can i call u by phone one of those days ?
07:23 < Pyro> mnemoc: move to asm :)
07:23 < d3mian> btw.. i never was able to code with gtk here.. got some problems with the gtk.h.. umm..
07:23 < mnemoc> query a database with asm is not nice
07:23 < Pyro> d3mian: sure feel free to call me home, or to crnet if it is before july 30th
07:23 < Pyro> mnemoc: ah well :)
07:24 < d3mian>  [ scar ] ~ > ls /opt/sources/hdw/x11/gtk+ | grep bz
07:24 < d3mian> 5988 gtk+-2.0.6.tar.bz2
07:24 < d3mian>  [ scar ] ~ >
07:24 < d3mian> that fucking version is not working here
07:24 < Pyro> mnemoc: so what are u doing up this late man?
07:24 < d3mian> mnemoc: aeh ? are u trying to do that !! ?
07:24 < d3mian> mnemoc: if u do.. ur my hero
07:24 < Pyro> d3mian: please behave your tongue and be polite please
07:25 < d3mian> ok, sorry
07:25 < d3mian> the costume..
07:25 < mnemoc> mmmmm.... i'm coding c# for web write now :(
07:25 < Pyro> mnemoc: sounds like fun
07:25 < d3mian> windows C# or C++ ?
07:25 < Pyro> mnemoc: would u prefer doing some asp?
07:25 < mnemoc> writing a control to render html/js code to select between to DateTimes
07:26 < Pyro> :))
07:26 < mnemoc> d3mian: c#
07:26 < d3mian> btw.. how can i create scripts and task jobs in mysql ?
07:27 < d3mian> http://hackdaworld.dyndns.org/~demian/finca/
07:28 < Pyro> d3mian: lots of fun: http://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/index.html
07:28 < Pyro> :))
07:28 < d3mian> k..
07:29 < mnemoc> Mike always there to help :)
07:29 < Pyro> d3mian: u know the procedure as well as anyone else here, first RTFM then ask :)
07:29 < d3mian> yes
07:29 < Pyro> mnemoc: sure i am, well not been very helpfull since the last days
07:30 < Pyro> time is something i simply don't have anymore
07:30 < blindcoder> Pyro: hmm... recently I have a lot of time...
07:30 < blindcoder> nothing to do at work, even less at home
07:31 < blindcoder> at least the weekends are something to look forward to ^^
07:31 < d3mian> i ve found and old manual in html here, ill start readingit then
07:31 < Pyro> blindcoder:so plenty of time to watch anime? lucky bastard :((
07:31 < d3mian> why ?
07:31 < blindcoder> Pyro: can't watch anime at wrk
07:32 < Pyro> d3mian: nice photos, but hey the price is quite too expensive
07:32 < Pyro> d3mian: u should contact some real state people to sell the property
07:32 < Pyro> i could refer u to some
07:32 < d3mian> (Price is negotiable)
07:32 < Pyro> blindcoder: ok that sucks quite much
07:32 < Pyro> d3mian: do they _only_ sell the whole thing?
07:33 < Pyro> d3mian: if it is possible to sell part of it i would be interested in investing
07:33 < Pyro> but honestly i'm not that rich _yet_ to buy it all
07:33 < d3mian> no, whole territory only
07:33 < Pyro> d3mian: ok then good luck :)
07:34 < Pyro> d3mian: see query
07:34 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep....
07:34 < blindcoder> mnemoc: good night
07:34 < Pyro> mnemoc: why?!?!
07:35 < Pyro> mnemoc: its quite early yet
07:35 < mnemoc> i'm tired :(
07:36 < mnemoc>  internal compiler error building qt31 with gcc33 :(
07:36 < Pyro> mnemoc: mhh
07:37 < Pyro> mayvbe u wanna fix it before u sleep:P
07:37 * Pyro been evil
07:37 < Pyro> mnemoc: nah i'm teasing u my freid, go get some nice sleep, i hope i have time to come by the mourning and talk a bit more.
07:37 < mnemoc> at least get a -E :)
07:38 < Pyro> -E ?
07:39 < mnemoc> the 'real' code.... after preprocesor
07:39 * blindcoder is looking forward to tomorrow
07:40 < Pyro> mnemoc: :)
07:40 < Pyro> blindcoder: why>
07:40 < mnemoc> mmmmm.... the error did not repeated :(
07:41 < blindcoder> Pyro: I've booked the Buergenetz Ingolstadt's 17 PCs for a Cluster-Build of ROCK from tomorrow until Sunday
07:41 < d3mian> are u building sth big ?
07:41 < blindcoder> 17 PCs with 700 MHz each
07:42 < blindcoder> I just hope that rxr will release -rc1 in time
07:42 < Pyro> blindcoder: pretty nice, i'm sure it will be real fun
07:42 < d3mian> it's common with me to receive "internal compiler" errors with my system buikding big things
07:42 < d3mian> like mozilla, qt, etc
07:42 < d3mian> what i do is build part of the code first, and later continue until messages dissapear
07:43 < blindcoder> Pyro: I need it for the 'toys' I prepare for CCCamp
07:43 < d3mian> dunno really what is happening.. maybe a stack problem or so
07:44 < Pyro> blindcoder: hehehe i like the fact that u and i have very similar likes for 'toys'
07:44 < mnemoc> ok... gn8 all
07:44 < mnemoc> cu
07:45 < d3mian> cu mnemoc
07:45 * d3mian leaving too
07:45 < blindcoder> hehe
07:45 < blindcoder> d3mian: byebye
07:45 < blindcoder> Pyro: so, that leaves us two alone :)
07:45 < Pyro> oh god /me hides
07:45 < Pyro> :P
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07:46 < blindcoder> moin n00kie
07:46 < Pyro> n00kie: !
07:48 * blindcoder has the strange feeling that he forgot something
07:48 < Pyro> anyways its late here i need to finish some code before i go to bed
07:48 < Pyro> blindy i see u in some hours ok?
07:48 < Pyro> blindcoder: to have breakfast?
07:49 < Pyro> blindcoder: btw our bday is close, what do u want?
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07:50 < blindcoder> Pyro: what I want? Iwant Brigitte ^^
07:50 < Pyro> mmm don't have here
07:50 < Pyro> anyways i will see u tomorrow
07:50 < Pyro> n8 all
07:50 < blindcoder> well... But I have... and I meet her again on Sunday ^^
07:50 < Pyro> d3mian: dormi jumas
07:50 < blindcoder> okay, good n8
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07:51 < d3mian> whois Mike1
07:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
07:51 < d3mian> hi n00kie
07:54 < d3mian> noaa!!! the matricule is just tomorrow!! i had to be there since today then..!!
07:54 * d3mian will travel whole night..
07:55 < d3mian> damnit
07:55 < d3mian> :(
07:55 < d3mian> bye
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07:55 < n00kie> hi demian :)
07:55 < n00kie> argh
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09:11 < Aard> moin
09:20 < christ|an> good morning
09:20 < christ|an> :)
09:21 < knoti> moin
09:21 < knoti> I think I will get an atx case today, so I can start playing with rocklinux ;>
09:21 * knoti is happy about that.
09:37 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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09:43 < christ|an> hi debian - ups i mean d3mian :)
09:43 < d3mian> umm
09:43 < d3mian> hi christ|an
09:43 < christ|an> good morning
09:44 < blindcoder> wb d3mian :)
09:44 < d3mian> hello all
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09:44 < owl> hi
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09:46 < christ|an> owl :)
09:46 < owl> hi christ|an
09:46 < christ|an> *froi*
09:48 < blindcoder> uh-oh, it' owlita
09:49 < owl> well. better /me than you.l
09:49 < owl> -l
09:49 < owl> but don't mind. will continue ignoring your comments
09:54 < blindcoder> hehe, she doesn't really ignore me :D
09:55 < owl> nah. not /ignore blindcoder . but /ignore-the-lines-written-down-by-blindcoder-and-overreading-them
09:57 < blindcoder> well you still react to my mails
09:57 < blindcoder> s/mails/lines/
09:57 < owl> yes.
09:58 < blindcoder> hrrhrr
09:58 < blindcoder> tele
09:58 < owl> but react != react
10:00 < blindcoder> well, you _do_ react, and a reaction is all I want ^^
10:01 < owl> well. giving you sarcastic answers != talking to you imho
10:01 < owl> but - who cares. i have my notebook with me. what else do i need?
10:03 < blindcoder> well, personally I prefer humans (most notably, women) over machines, but taste may vary
10:05 < owl> ...
10:07 < SMP> 'was sich liebt, das neckt sich'
10:07 < blindcoder> SMP: no, not really...
10:07 < owl> SMP: *kick*
10:07 < blindcoder> SMP: at least not in this case
10:08 < owl> haha. *vbeg*
10:11 * owl off for break
10:13 < blindcoder> eating makes fat :D
10:13 < netrunne1> moin
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10:13 < blindcoder> anyone got an idea if rxr will show up here today?
10:21 < daja77> moin Aard ;-)
10:23 < daja77> oh hi all
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10:25 < blindcoder> hi daja77 :)
10:27 < daja77> hi blindy
10:28 < rxr> blindcoder: yes - hi
10:28 < rxr> moin
10:28 < daja77> hi rxr
10:31 < owl> hi rxr
10:31 < blindcoder> rxr: hi there. How's rc1 coming along?
10:31 < owl> hi netrunner
10:32 < rxr> blindcoder: we need one or two days
10:32 < rxr> current HEAD should be ok - and you can either use the result - or do a -newdelete build when we have a -rc1 in-time ...
10:33 < blindcoder> rxr: okay, that's good to hear ^^
10:34 < SMP> do we have any programs that do audio recording the tree?
10:34 < rxr> I also tagged an inofficial -beta8, just as internal milestone,  - becasue I applied some base updates yesterday
10:34 < rxr> but so far the base updates build quite fine
10:34 < blindcoder> rxr: mhm... well, maybe I can also stretch the access time to the machine by another week... erdi will kill me for that, but... oh well :-)
10:35 < rxr> one damn thing is that theoreitical I should go to work today - although doing the last -rc1 fluff would be way more important for me ...
10:36 < owl> hmm... will provide a "minimal_with_x-tree"... if you want it... but first want to build another test... and test it on a running machine for about a week or so... would it be ok, to send the patch, then?
10:36 < blindcoder> hmm... can't you do some rock work from there?
10:37 < blindcoder> GARGL, telephone
10:38 < daja77> hehe blindy gets luser calls ;-)
10:39 < owl> *har* everybody as he deserves it...
10:39 < daja77> hmm maybe I should call him ....
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10:41 * blindcoder redirecting hotline to owls mobile phone
10:41 < blindcoder> everyone as she deserves it :D
10:42 < tcr> moin all
10:42 < owl> well. i will do a "call filtering"
10:43 < daja77> okis /me off for learning again :-(
10:44 < blindcoder> owl: good luck. tell me how you did it so I can apply it here,too
10:44 < blindcoder> hi tcr
10:44 < blindcoder> baba daja
10:44 < tcr> daja seems to be very busy these days
10:44 < owl> blindcoder: on mobile phones (at least on my ericsson) it works
10:45 < owl> WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! old "romantik-schinken" on tv in school
10:46 < tcr> Please get a bit more quiet, I just woke up
10:46 < owl> "ich musste einfach deine stimme hoeren. gestern nacht war ich schon fast auf dem weg zu dir" - waaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!! *screaming* *trying to reboot universe*
10:46 < owl> tcr: nah. wake up, old man! :p
10:46 < tcr> Put hearphones in your ear, whimmy
10:47 < blindcoder> owl: okay, so tell me how filter calls without number , internal calls, calls from vienna and calls from teleworkers without filtering anything else.
10:48 < owl> "callers who are not in telephone-book" -- not recieiving
10:49 < owl> tcr: at school? tcr, tcr, tcr - not everybody is having brain-killing-music ...
10:49 < blindcoder> hmm... sounds like an interesting option
10:49 * tcr grins
10:49 < owl> full ack.
10:49 < owl> just don't put them into your telephone book *vbeg*
10:51 < tcr> Hah, owl has half the world in her phone book, I mean she's a woman after all
10:52 < owl> nope. the most people i have inserted into my mobile, are just there because i don't want to remember their mail-adress. i'm not using the "phone-option" much, but the e-mail-client ;p
10:58 < netrunner> hi owl
10:59 < blindcoder> well, that's what a mobile phone is for... sending e-mail...
10:59 * blindcoder --> lunch
11:01 < owl> sure it is that for. i'm hating talking to people
11:01 < owl> (at least the most)
11:04 < christ|an> lalala
11:11 < owl> ?
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11:13 < JTBurn> hola
11:13 < JTBurn> have anybody experiences with lampp
11:14 < JTBurn> ?
11:17 < christ|an> !here!
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11:21 < rtc> hi all
11:21 < owl> hi rtc
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11:38 * blindcoder back
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12:59 < gomer> hi
13:02 < tcr> moin
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13:03 < blindcoder> hi
13:03 < owl> hi gomer
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13:13 < [anders]> moin
13:14 < owl> hi [anders]
13:14 < [anders]> lo owl
13:14 < [anders]> owl: how's you 2day?
13:15 < blindcoder> hi [anders]
13:15 < [anders]> lo blindcoder, how's you? :)
13:15 < rxr> hi [anders]
13:16 < [anders]> lo rxr, long time no type. I see you are busy churning out new release candidates for 2.0 :)
13:16 < owl> [anders]: hm. alive. thx. you?
13:17 < [anders]> owl: got sinus problems, so blistering headache, other than that, my sprained foot and aching shoulder, I am alright thanks.. :)
13:17 < tcr> hi anders
13:17 < blindcoder> [anders]: I'm fine, thanks. Currently working on Project: Gf
13:17 < [anders]> lo tcr, alive and well I see.. :)
13:17 < [anders]> Gf?
13:17 < [anders]> @blindcoder
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13:17 < tcr> gurlfriend
13:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: you're getting old :)
13:18 < [anders]> hehehe
13:18 * rxr at work now - cu
13:18 < DeElsasser> hi all
13:18 < [anders]> blindcoder: I am old, I am 30 years old.. :)
13:18 * daja77 waves from the off
13:18 < [anders]> tcr: thanks for xlating for me. :)
13:18 < [anders]> lo daja77
13:18 < DeElsasser> anders: i am older
13:18 < [anders]> DeElsasser: how much? :)
13:18 < DeElsasser> moin daja77
13:18 < DeElsasser> ouuuuuuu
13:19 < blindcoder> [anders]: well... I have 8 years until I have the same amount of life-experience that you have now ^^
13:19 < [anders]> blindcoder: convoluted way of saying you are 22 y.o. then... :)
13:19 < owl> off
13:19 < [anders]> owl: ~~~
13:19 < daja77> blindcoder: well that kind of projects are fun, good we don't aim it at the same person
13:20 < blindcoder> [anders]: well, I turn 22 in 4 weeks :)
13:20 < DeElsasser> must go: wanted only say hello from my new rock target...
13:20 < blindcoder> daja77: I very much doubt that it's the same person :)
13:20 < daja77> hehe
13:21 < daja77> yepp that's the good news
13:21 * [anders] is building, but not rock...
13:21 < blindcoder> and the bad?
13:21 < DeElsasser> I maned it gRock, have some work to do, but it does it :-))
13:22 < daja77> ... that I missed her yesterday >_<
13:22 * blindcoder is preparing a ROCK Parallel Build on 17 Machines
13:22 < DeElsasser> cu
13:22 < daja77> cu DeElsasser
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13:22 < blindcoder> daja77: missed? as in "I asked her for a date but forgot her"?
13:23 < daja77> no not that way ...
13:23 < tcr> Muha.
13:23 < tcr> rxr uses javascript history_prev() (or whatever) for back navigation on the regression site
13:24 < daja77> well it is a pity that most girls are no geeks ...
13:24 < [anders]> daja77: amen
13:24 < daja77> ;-)
13:25 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't think so...
13:25 < daja77> she doesn't even have inet at home, so it depends on her goin to some university computer to read my mail ...
13:25 < blindcoder> Personally I wouldn't like a girl who sits in front of a PC all day long
13:26 < blindcoder> It's bad enough that I do that sometimes >_<
13:26 < daja77> blindcoder: yeah i should be more precise, girls who can think geekish ;-)
13:27 < blindcoder> daja77: okay, that's something I fully agree to :)
13:28 < daja77> *sigh* I hope it is worth that challenge ...
13:29 < tcr> Take owl, be happy
13:29 * daja77 shocked
13:29 < [anders]> there are girls out there that are capable of thinking geekish, but they are not easy to find.
13:29 < blindcoder> owl? happy? in the same sentence?
13:30 * [anders] listening to http://205.188.234.68:8002
13:31 < blindcoder> nectarine?
13:31 * tcr . o O ( anders wants to kill our ears )
13:31 < [anders]> its just EuroDance. :)
13:32 < [anders]> Finest Imported Cheese. :)
13:32 < blindcoder> oh, that's not nectarine then :)
13:34 < [anders]> hmmm.. 2.6.0-test1 kernel available in Debian for installation..
13:34 < [anders]> that will probably require an update of modutils and a few other things.. :-/
13:38 < daja77> hm current packages available in debian, but it is not xmas today ...
13:38 < blindcoder> also, it's not April 1st
13:39 * daja77 off again
13:44 * tcr would like to have a "grab" feature in his brother like it's in acrobat reader
13:45 < tcr> s,brother,browser,
13:45 < tcr> Duh
13:48 < fake> damn... why does it have to be so hot??
13:49 < cytrinox> hi
13:50 < fake> hi
13:50 < blindcoder> hi fake
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13:57 < blindcoder> svn up -r 854 takes ages...
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14:41 < esden> fake: too many girls around you?
14:41 < esden> hi all sbtw
14:41 < mistik1> hi esden
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14:46 < blindcoder> esden: ti there
14:46 < blindcoder> s/ti/hi/
14:48 < esden> blindcoder: hihi
14:48 < blindcoder> esden: just got up?
14:49 < netrunner> re. oh what page are the logs rene mentions in his mail? (those from his reference build)
14:49 < blindcoder> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/regtest/
14:50 < blindcoder> there's a link on http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/
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14:52 < blindcoder> hmm
14:52 < esden> blindcoder: noo ... I am up since many hours
14:53 < blindcoder> esden: hehe, that's rare :)
14:53 < esden> I was in the city and bought something for going out
14:53 < esden> and trained a bit ;-)
14:54 < netrunner> blindcoder: hm ... but the err I was looking for is not there (he mentions xtris)
14:56 < blindcoder> esden: trained? _bought_? you have money o_0
14:57 * mistik1 finally has rock booted
14:58 < mistik1> wonderfull project you got here
14:58 < mistik1> My first target should be done in a couple days too ;)
14:59 * blindcoder going home now
15:00 < mistik1> by blindcoder
15:00 < esden> blindcoder: my mother gave me money to buy myself something to wear ...
15:00 < esden> blindcoder: and no I do not have money
15:00 < esden> by blindcoder 
15:01 < mistik1> esden: was it you I was talking to about a uClibc target a couple weeks ago
15:03 < esden> can be ...
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15:08 < mistik1> do you have anything written down that I can read of what has been done and what needs to be done on the uclibc target
15:12 < esden> nope .. sorry ... I have got a visit currently ... and have no time to take care of my rocklunx tasks ... 
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15:12 < esden> I will have more time tomorrow
15:13 < esden> and hopefully can start to do something for rock since then
15:13 < esden> but for now I can not do anything
15:14 < n00kie> hi esden :)
15:14 < mistik1> esden: fair enough
15:15 < esden> hi n00kie 
15:15 < esden> mistik1: sorry ... my friend that I can not help you imediatly
15:16 < mistik1> that is no problem, as it would be days before I can make real use of any info
15:17 < esden> mistik1: ok
15:17 < netrunner> hm ... burning over a 100MBBit works fine with 24x
15:18 < mistik1> sure does
15:24 < esden> ok, I am back on my way to the city ... 
15:28 < seiryu> hi
15:29 < seiryu> can somebody tell me a good book to read to learn linux?
15:33 < [anders]> seiryu: I am sure there are some good books.. one moment.
15:33 < seiryu> okk thank you
15:33 < [anders]> seiryu: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxnut3/
15:34 < seiryu> do u think its possible to learn linux from looking at reference books like this?
15:34 < seiryu> i have no background in linux
15:35 < [anders]> seiryu: do you have any background at all with Unix of some form?
15:35 < seiryu> mm no
15:35 < seiryu> i'm not failiar with the differences between unix and linux either so
15:36 < [anders]> seiryu: Linux is a Unix clone, so has a lot in common with other unices.
15:36 < seiryu> does it use similar commands?
15:36 < [anders]> seiryu: yes, you will recognise a lot of unix commands in Linux.
15:36 < [anders]> correction, in various linux distributions.
15:36 < seiryu> i see
15:37 < [anders]> Linux is really only the kernel.
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15:37 < seiryu> i see
15:37 < seiryu> do u think its better if i get familiar with unix first?
15:38 < [anders]> seiryu: depends what your goal is.
15:38 < seiryu> hmm
15:38 < [anders]> seiryu: if you want to learn enough to keep a secure server/desktop at home, you can probably go straight for a linux of *BSD distribution.
15:39 < seiryu> oo hmm
15:39 < [anders]> if your aim is to become a system admin for a large company, you will probably have to learn some Solaris, AIX or HP-UX at some point.
15:39 < seiryu> oook
15:39 < seiryu> umm
15:39 < seiryu> i jsut want to be able to use program
15:39 < seiryu> i mean
15:40 < seiryu> use for programming
15:40 < [anders]> then learning linux or BSD is sufficent.
15:41 < seiryu> wat exactly is BSD?
15:41 < seiryu> just a distrobution of linux?
15:41 < [anders]> the development environment in linux distributions is very good. as you have access to sources of almost everything, you can easily see how things are done, and get inspiration and tips for your own code
15:41 < seiryu> oo i see
15:42 < seiryu> i just installed red hat because i got a hold of it really fast
15:42 < [anders]> seiryu: No, BSD is a diffrent branch of Unix.
15:42 < seiryu> but i don't really know where to start
15:42 < seiryu> oo unix
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15:42 < [anders]> There is FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. They are the three major BSD distributions.
15:42 < seiryu> i see
15:43 < seiryu> what do you use?
15:43 < [anders]> they have slightly diffrent goals, OpenBSD aims to be as secure as possible.
15:43 < seiryu> oo
15:43 < seiryu> hmm well i'm not running a network on it or anything so
15:43 < [anders]> seiryu: I use SuSE Linux and Debian Linux at the moment, but have used ROCK Linux a lot in the past
15:43 < seiryu> i don't think i have to worry too much about that
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15:43 < seiryu> o no
15:43 < seiryu> o i see
15:44 < seiryu> i never really heard of rock linux until today
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15:44 < [anders]> seiryu: if you are aiming to write code, familiarise yourself with the shell and some editor (emacs/vi/nedit/pico/other choice) and then you are ready to rock. :)
15:44 < seiryu> how did u come to learn linux?
15:44 < seiryu> okk thanks
15:45 < rtc> yeah, i made it too - i'm running rock! thx geeks, this system is funky ;)
15:45 < [anders]> seiryu: interest. I picked up RedHat 4.1 of a coverdisk back in 1997, and have been using Linux since.
15:45 < seiryu> oo wow
15:45 < seiryu> i'm really new to this stuff
15:45 < rtc> configuring pppd was not easy with my winmodem, but it works...
15:46 < seiryu> what is shell by the way?
15:46 < rtc> seiryu: nube?
15:46 < [anders]> seiryu: the command line interface. you have several to chose from depending on your preference. csh, bsh, bash, tcsh, ksh or zsh are the most common.
15:46 < seiryu> yupp
15:47 < rtc> why here in the developer channel of rock?
15:47 < seiryu> o
15:47 < seiryu> sorry
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15:47 < seiryu> #linuxhelp got annoyed at me yesterday
15:47 < seiryu> because i knew nothing about linux
15:47 < rtc> no problem, all are here to help you a little ;)
15:47 < seiryu> thought this place might be able to help
15:48 < seiryu> cool thanks a lot for the help though
15:48 < rtc> a "clean" linux channel would be better for you, wouldn't it?
15:48 < seiryu> i really appreciate it alot
15:48 < seiryu> what do you mean by "clean"?
15:48 < rtc> perhaps ;)
15:48 < [anders]> seiryu: a lot of your questions can be answered at http://www.linuxfaq.com/LDP/
15:48 < seiryu> okk thanks
15:49 < [anders]> seiryu: by clean, he probably mean 'generic'. :)
15:49 < seiryu> oo i see
15:49 < seiryu> they're kinda mean too
15:49 < [anders]> ROCK Linux is quite specialised.
15:49 < rtc> it is
15:49 < seiryu> are you one of the developers?
15:50 < [anders]> not many distributions that encourage people to compile their entire distribution from source. ;-)
15:50 < [anders]> seiryu: I wish.
15:50 < seiryu> o
15:50 < [anders]> I did a little work back on the 1.5.x tree, but didn't get very far.
15:50 < seiryu> ii see
15:50 < seiryu> are you a programmer?
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15:51 < [anders]> seiryu: no, more of a system admin.
15:51 < seiryu> oo cool
15:52 < [anders]> I write a little perl and shell from time to time for various things to automate tasks here at IBM.
15:53 < seiryu> oo wow
15:53 < seiryu> ur up awfully early
15:53 < [anders]> early?
15:53 < seiryu> you're at work right now?
15:53 < [anders]> it is nearly 15:00 here. :)
15:54 < [anders]> 14:53 to be exact
15:54 < seiryu> o'
15:54 < n00kie> [anders]: Where are you from?
15:54 < seiryu> wow i guess ur not on the west coast
15:54 < seiryu> california
15:54 < rtc> 15:53 in here ;)
15:54 < seiryu> where are you from?
15:54 < n00kie> err, 6:54am? :)
15:54 < n00kie> Tyrol/Austria
15:54 < seiryu> you are all from Austria?
15:55 < rtc> 6:54 in Austria? i don't believe @ n00kie ;)
15:55 < n00kie> Why all?
15:55 < n00kie> austria != australia :)
15:55 < seiryu> its 6:54 in california
15:55 < [anders]> n00kie: from sweden originally.
15:55 < [anders]> n00kie: but I am in UK at the moment
15:55 < n00kie> Ah, alright
15:56 < seiryu> oo that explains it
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15:57 < n00kie> Hey jsaw_ :)
15:57 < rtc> uff. 32°C - it's getting hot in here ;)
15:57 < n00kie> 33 Degrees Celsius in here
15:57 < n00kie> Damn hot :(
15:57 < rtc> ;)
15:58 < seiryu> well then I haven't slept yet so I guess i'll go sleep now
15:58 < seiryu> thanks a lot for the help anders and rtc
15:58 < seiryu> i really appreciate it
15:58 < seiryu> talk to you laters
15:58 < seiryu> bye
15:58 < n00kie> sleep well
15:58 < rtc> didn't help lot i think, but ok ;)
15:58 < rtc> bye there
15:59 < [anders]> seiryu: not a problem. take care
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15:59 < n00kie> Hi tcr
15:59 < tcr> moin n00kie
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16:01 < JTBurn> re
16:01 < JTBurn> :)
16:02 < JTBurn> did anybody know a programm to extract .bin - files ?
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16:04 < tcr> JTBurn: Hmm, I know .bin files only from BIOS upgrades
16:04 < tcr> JTBurn: But the bios producer offers always a bios flasher which can read that file
16:05 < n00kie> tcr: *.bin files are also used for some cd images
16:05 < JTBurn> na thats not a BIOS file, that is an image like .iso or .img
16:05 < n00kie> when you need for example a *.cue file too
16:05 < tcr> Ah
16:05 < JTBurn> n00kie: do you know an answer ?
16:06 < tcr> JTBurn: g00gl3 then :P
16:06 < n00kie> www.g00gl3.de
16:06 < n00kie> :D
16:06 < n00kie> nah
16:06 < JTBurn> g00gl3 didnt tell me anything
16:06 < n00kie> maybe you should try to find something at freshmeat
16:06 < JTBurn> no there is nothing too
16:07 < n00kie> hmm
16:08 < knoti> try to mount it with loopback
16:08 < n00kie> jt
16:08 < n00kie> http://www.google.de/search?q=extract+*.bin+files+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google+Suche&meta=
16:08 < n00kie> about 92.000 websites
16:09 < n00kie> I guess on one website, you find a program or correct answer :)
16:09 < tcr> Get "bchunk" too. It converts .cue and .bin's
16:09 < tcr> into .iso images
16:09 < JTBurn> no loopback does not work
16:10 < tcr> JTBurn: http://hes.iki.fi/bchunk/
16:10 < n00kie> well, it would be the easist (?) way to burn the file...
16:11 < JTBurn> mh
16:11 < JTBurn> not the easiest but the onest
16:11 < tcr> n00kie: Only if you have a cd-w and a free cd
16:12 < tcr> JTBurn: I pointed you to a way, didn't I?
16:12 < tcr> bchunk converts your .bin file into an .iso file which you can loopmount..
16:12 < JTBurn> yes tcr
16:12 < JTBurn> thx
16:12 < JTBurn> :)
16:13 < tcr> No problem
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16:16 < Nebukadneza> hi
16:19 < fake> esden: no?
16:19 < [anders]> ta ta, /me is off..
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16:21 < rolla> yawn
16:29 < owl> rehi
16:29 < n00kie> wv iwk ;(
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16:31 < n00kie> argh
16:31 < n00kie> wb owl :)
16:31 < owl> hi n00kie
16:31 < n00kie> sorry, typo :)
16:33 < n00kie> hmm tcr
16:34 < n00kie> if the *.bin from jtburn is a movie
16:34 < n00kie> He can play it in mplayer, if I'm right?
16:35 < tcr> No idea
16:35 < n00kie> But I don't know it correctly...
16:35 < owl> knowing what?
16:36 < n00kie> if someone can plays a (s)vcd *.bin directly in mplayer
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16:36 < owl> hm... no idea. sorry
16:36 < tfing> n00kie: yes, it works
16:37 < fake> j0, should work
16:37 < owl> moin fake
16:37 < n00kie> alright, thanks :)
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17:02 < owl> wtf is happening in here? O_o
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17:13 < n00kie> lol owl
17:13 < n00kie> well
17:13 < n00kie> <- n8 :)
17:13 * blindcoder back
17:14 < n00kie> wb blindy && bye blindy
17:15 < blindcoder> baba
17:16 < owl> gn8 n00kie *looking onto the watch* isn't it a bit early for sleeping? O_o
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17:20 < blindcoder> ah well
17:20 < blindcoder> maybe today _is_ a good day to die. (Worf, Son of Mogh)
17:20 < owl> aha?
17:23 < blindcoder> yeah
17:24 < tcr> it's still a bit of time until TNG comes
17:24 < fake> 17:45
17:24 < fake> K1
17:24 * fake is informed
17:24 < rolla> ucking AOL
17:25 < fake> although i don't have a tv ;)
17:25 < blindcoder> It's not from TNG
17:25 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^Armitage
17:26 * owl kicks Nebu^Armitage 
17:27 < Nebu^Armitage> wieso?
17:27 < Nebu^Armitage> why?
17:27 < tcr> blindcoder: He definitively said it in First Contact
17:27 < blindcoder> tcr: yes, but that was already way into DS9
17:27 < tcr> Nebu^Armitage: too much, _unnecesary_,  nickchanges
17:28 < tcr> too many even
17:28 < Nebu^Armitage> löl
17:28 < Nebu^Armitage> okay
17:28 -!- Nebu^Armitage is now known as Nebukadneza
17:28 < Nebukadneza> sorry
17:28 < tcr> Thank you :)
17:28 < JTBurn> hi rolla :)
17:28 < blindcoder> Armitage? as in Armitage III?
17:28 < JTBurn> do you knew me
17:28 < JTBurn> ?
17:29 < tcr> blindcoder: Don't like ds9 that much, but watch it about every satur- and sunday
17:30 < blindcoder> tcr: I haven't seen it till the end... the last ep I saw was the first one with Ezri
17:33 < tcr> Heh, I just jumped into any episode
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17:45 * blindcoder now building minimal-target from svn HEAD
17:45 < blindcoder> and goes watching anime to become even more depressed
17:45 < blindcoder> bye
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18:21 * -> esden drinking mate tea ;-)
18:27 < blindcoder> esden: is it alcoholic?
18:29 < esden> noo ... it is containing caffeine
18:29 < blindcoder> damn
18:29 < blindcoder> well, have to finally kill the Sake bottle then
18:31 < blindcoder> hmm
18:32 < blindcoder> one of these days, I'm sure esden will stay here longer than 5 seconds
18:32 * blindcoder off to anime again
18:37 < rolla> re
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18:41 < esden> blindcoder: I am here ... from time to time ... 
18:45 < JTBurn> wb rolla
18:51 < rolla> ,:)
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19:02 < Nebukadneza> how can you load ed2k:// links in mldonkey(webinterface9
19:02 < tfing> execute the command dllink ed2k://...
19:02 < Nebukadneza> sure?
19:02 < tfing> sure :)
19:03 * blindcoder points to #mldonkey on this network
19:04 < Nebukadneza> tfing: unknown command
19:04 < tfing> dllink ?
19:04 < tfing> dllink <ed2klink> :download ed2k:// link
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19:06 < Nebukadneza> jep
19:06 < Nebukadneza> it dont work
19:06 < Nebukadneza> wich version?
19:06 < tfing> 2.5-3
19:06 < Nebukadneza> hm
19:06 < tfing> you can type help
19:06 < Nebukadneza> *gets a new one*
19:07 < tfing> but the dllink command was there from the beginning
19:07 < Nebukadneza> hm
19:07 < Nebukadneza> i'll get a new
19:07 < tfing> sure you made no typo ?
19:07 < Nebukadneza> do you know what a filetype .ogm is (must be anything like video)?
19:07 < Nebukadneza> typo?
19:07 < blindcoder> OGG Media
19:08 < blindcoder> mplayer can play it without problems
19:08 < Nebukadneza> ah
19:08 < Nebukadneza> okay
19:08 < Nebukadneza> thx
19:08 < blindcoder> some people call it OGG Movie, but that is not really correct
19:08 < Nebukadneza> but its video and audio?
19:09 < blindcoder> video (usually one stream) and audio/text (zero to multiple streams)
19:09 < Nebukadneza> okay
19:09 < Nebukadneza> thx!
19:09 < Nebukadneza> does anyone here like anime?
19:10 * blindcoder puts hand in the air
19:10 < blindcoder> erm
19:10 * tfing puts both
19:10 < blindcoder> in english that is raises hand i think
19:10 * Mike1 too
19:10 < Nebukadneza> hm?
19:10 < Nebukadneza> why?
19:10 < blindcoder> sorry, my english gets worse the older the day is...
19:12 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: because it's way better than the shit that usually comes on TV here in .de
19:12 < blindcoder> that's probably also why I don't own a TV anymore
19:12 < Nebukadneza> anime on .de tv are evil!
19:12 < mnemoc> re
19:12 < Nebukadneza> there really shi7!
19:13 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: well, VOX sometimes has some good things like Silent Moebius subtitled, but that was long ago
19:13 < blindcoder> even Spirited Away in german Cinemas was translated wrong...
19:13 < Nebukadneza> jep!
19:13 < Nebukadneza> Silent Möbius was not that good!
19:14 < Nebukadneza> but ... NGE is really good ... grave of the fireflies is good
19:14 < Nebukadneza> lain is good
19:14 < blindcoder> haven't seen GoFF yet... but NGE and Lain were some of the first Anime I saw, followed by LH
19:14 < Nebukadneza> lh ruleZ!
19:15 < Nebukadneza> its the funnyest anime i know
19:15 < Nebukadneza> its so kewl!
19:15 < blindcoder> well, it's really good for an Ecchi series
19:15 < Nebukadneza> löl
19:15 < Nebukadneza> i just load the armitage ova ... im a armitage fan :)(
19:15 < blindcoder> Armitage III?
19:16 < Nebukadneza> armitage III ova's
19:16 < blindcoder> I like that one, although I haven't seen te OVA yet... I have it, but haven't watched it
19:16 < Nebukadneza> its too bad, that dual matrix got a "bug" at me
19:16 < Nebukadneza> do you got the ova?
19:16 < Nebukadneza> *argh*
19:16 < blindcoder> hm... dual matrix... have that lying aound next to Poly Matrix...
19:16 < blindcoder> haven't seen DM yet, too.
19:17 < Nebukadneza> hmm
19:17 < blindcoder> I have too much Anime that I didn't watch yet >_<
19:17 < Nebukadneza> me too
19:18 < blindcoder> have you seen Spiral?
19:18 < blindcoder> Suizu no Kizuna?
19:18 < Nebukadneza> Spiral?
19:18 < Nebukadneza> (i search tokyo underground ..)
19:18 < blindcoder> TU? mom...
19:18 < blindcoder> haven't got it at home right now...
19:18 < Nebukadneza> no
19:19 < blindcoder> (nothing like a searchable Anime database and who has which CD-Set right now ^^)
19:19 < Nebukadneza> do you know "Seikai no Senki" ??
19:19 < blindcoder> yes
19:19 < blindcoder> Crest of the Stars, Seikai no Danshou Tanschou, Seikai no Senki I and II
19:20 < Nebukadneza> is it good?
19:20 < blindcoder> you may keep the typos
19:20 < blindcoder> I think it's quite good although the end of the series feels... wrong.
19:21 < Nebukadneza> hm?
19:21 < Nebukadneza> do you know scyced?
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19:22 < blindcoder> Scryed?
19:22 < Nebukadneza> hmm
19:23 < Nebukadneza> Scryed ... sorrs
19:23 < Nebukadneza> sorry
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19:26 < blindcoder> I like Scryed
19:26 < blindcoder> although here, too, the end is kinda wrong and leaves space for a second Season
19:26 < Nebukadneza> :)
19:27 < Nebukadneza> i like anime like nge and lain ... you think about the meaning and the sence of life ... etc.
19:27 < Nebukadneza> blindcoder: are you german?
19:27 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: yes.
19:28 < Nebukadneza> sek ... i have to upload sth. *G*G*G*
19:28 < Nebukadneza> oh no!
19:28 < Nebukadneza> ive deleted it
19:28 < blindcoder> hmm... that's bad
19:28 < blindcoder> what was it?
19:29 < Nebukadneza> knapp 6 seiten über nge "philosophiert" und assoziiert
19:29 < blindcoder> oh... nice...
19:30 < blindcoder> hm...
19:30 < Nebukadneza> :)
19:30 < Nebukadneza> it was hard work ..
19:30 < blindcoder> I'll continue watching Tenchi Universe
19:30 < Nebukadneza> tenchi hmm *Searches*
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19:46 < Nebukadneza> hm
19:46 < Nebukadneza> much stuff ...
19:50 < Nebukadneza> i need a spamfilter for evolution ... can anyone help me?
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20:10 < rxr> re
20:13 < mnemoc> wb rxr
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20:17 < reenoo_> hi
20:17 < owl> rehi
20:19 < daja77> re
20:27 < daja77> *yawn*
20:28 < rxr> hi mnemoc owl daja77 and all
20:28 < owl> hi rxr
20:29 < daja77> mnemoc owl daja77 are a subset of all *ggg*
20:29 < mnemoc> :)
20:29 * daja77 notes talking nonsense
20:30 < mnemoc> redefine all as 'all the others'
20:30 < mnemoc> recursion :|
20:30 < daja77> *ggg*
20:30 < rxr> anyway hi all
20:31 < daja77> sure, just thinking stupid stuff ...
20:33 < daja77> I guess I'll need a whole day to read ml, when exams are over
20:34 < daja77> do I have missed any news?
20:39 < rolla> re daja77
20:40 < daja77> hi rolla
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20:41 * daja77 wondering where Mike is
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21:30 < fake> stephan koerner seems to be a representative of the german software industry?
21:30 < fake> http://swpat.ffii.org/briefe/bund028/index.de.html
21:30 < fake> the 16th on the list of signing firms
21:31 < fake> (and i bet he doesn't even know about this, muha)
21:31 < mnemoc> who is him? :(
21:31 < fake> ripclaw
21:31 < daja77> pilum tech is ripclaw's firm ...
21:32 < mnemoc> cool :)
21:32 < daja77> + ripclaw said on ml that he even phoned sco ...
21:34 < fake> yeah, to quit his licence ;)
21:34 < daja77> hehe
21:37 < owl> *g*
21:39 < fake> i'll take a nap, i'm so tired... damn bacteria.
21:40 < daja77> cu fake
21:40 < fake> bye, cu later maybe
21:40 < daja77> I wonm't be here for long
21:40 < daja77> won't even
21:41 < owl> gn8 fake , get on well soon. bye
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21:48 < Nebukadneza> rehi
21:48 < Nebukadneza> can anyone help me with spamassassin? what have i to configure?
21:52 < rxr> Nebukadneza: there is the docu included in the spamassassin package or the homepage
21:52 < rxr> it is a good start
21:53 < daja77> :)
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21:57 < Nebukadneza> hm
21:57 < Nebukadneza> oki
21:57 < cytrinox> rtfm... =)
21:58 < daja77> n8 you all
21:58 < owl> gn8 daja77
21:59 < cytrinox> gn8 daja77
22:06 < SMP> rxr: has any work on the network init occurred yet? I'm currently designing something (writing ideas down, pseudocode)
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22:09 < rxr> SMP: nope not yet done - since too busy
22:09 < rxr> I would start with real code tonight ...
22:09 < rxr> but if you would take it over ...
22:09 < rxr> mnemoc: are you here?
22:09 < mnemoc> yep
22:10 < SMP> rxr: maybe we can discuss my ideas (and yours) on the phone later
22:10 < rxr> your final perl5 patch was "07/06" ?
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22:10 < rxr> SMP: not on IRC ?
22:11 < SMP> I think I'd prefer phone with some additional written channel;)
22:12 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess so... apply it and i Diff them here
22:12 < mnemoc> :)
22:12 < mnemoc> but that was stable
22:12 < rxr> mnemoc: or you send a fresh patch just now ?
22:12 < mnemoc> ok... w8
22:14 < rxr> SMP: ok - so if you prefer phone ...
22:16 < mnemoc> rxr: rene@rock or ml?
22:16 < rxr> rene is ok
22:16 < rxr> I'll just apply it anyway ...
22:17 < owl> Error logs from default-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree:
22:17 < owl> 221 builds total, 90 completed fine, 0 with errors.
22:17 < rxr> owl: congrats
22:17 < rxr> owl: you moved back to rock - or are you still hacking your own dist ?
22:18 < owl> rxr: nope... not much..
22:19 < owl> and if this minimal_XFree-target will work, i'm happy with rock, i guess...
22:19 < rxr> owl: nice to see ;-) Welcome back!
22:19 < owl> thx ;)
22:20 < mnemoc> owl is back from the dark side :)
22:20 < mnemoc> wb happyowl
22:20 < rxr> happyowl is a cool nick
22:20 < rxr>  /alias owl happyowl
22:20 < owl> will hit you with some patches in the next days... (after some days of testing minimal_XFree-target "in the wild")
22:21 < owl> thx, mnemoc
22:21 < owl> *g*
22:24 < owl> hmm... i'm loving "wizo" (band)
22:33 < rxr> SMP: when you wanna phone later - just ask for the number ...
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22:33 < SMP> rxr: of course
22:34 < Nebu^havetogo> cya
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22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: applied.
22:37 < jsaw_> re
22:37 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw
22:37 < jsaw> owl: /me wants minimal_XFree
22:37 < owl> jsaw: why?
22:38 < owl> btw, will first continue with the build and test it some days, then commit the patch
22:38 < mnemoc> rxr: db3_*.patch should got removed, not modified :|
22:38 < jsaw> owl: the next computer that I want to transfer to rock is my laptop. 200MHz, 64Mb.
22:39 < owl> hehehe ;) k. is an argument ;p
22:39 < jsaw> btw targets, why is the server target kernel UP?
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22:46 < owl> jsaw: if you want the target as untested *.tar.bz2, i can dcc it to you...
22:48 < jsaw> owl: a bit later when I'm at work, dcc seems not to work behind nat, yes (or simply mail me, extract it from the ML)
22:48 < owl> k. e-mail-adress?
22:50 < jsaw> owl: search for "sawinski" in the ML
22:50 < owl> nah... too lazy
22:51 < jsaw> k: george at mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de
22:52 < owl> oki. thx.
22:53 < owl> you got mail...
22:53 < owl> and for /me it's time to sleep.
22:53 < owl> gn8
22:53 < jsaw> i got mail. thx.
22:54 < owl> yrw.
22:54 < jsaw> sleep well (and nice to "see" u in a better mood)
22:54 < owl> hehe (is this so "offensichtlich"?)
22:54 < owl> sleep well, too.
22:55 < jsaw> well, let's see what comes after /quit
22:56 < owl> no quit :p
22:56 < owl> gn8
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23:04 < localhost> hi
23:04 -!- localhost is now known as Kum
23:05 -!- Kum is now known as Demian
23:07 < Mike1> Demian is known as D3bian
23:07 < rxr> mnemoc: is there still s.th. missing form your patches
23:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc
23:07 < rxr> Mike1 even
23:07 < Mike1> rxr: hi
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23:07 < Mike1> rxr: query
23:07 < Demian> seems there are more rock developers in gallery :)
23:11 < rolla> re Mike1
23:17 < christ|an> Mike1:
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23:22 < mnemoc> rxr: the patch was complete... but db3_use.patch got emptied instead of removed
23:23 < jsaw> hi Mike1
23:23 < mnemoc> s/Demian/d3mian/ ?
23:23 < rxr> mnemoc: fixed
23:23 < mnemoc> thanks ;)
23:25 < reenoo_> "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type"
23:25 < reenoo_> anybody dare to "translate" that?
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23:26 < rxr> the type of the pointer was not declared yet
23:27 < Demian> usign a struct.. but not defined i guess
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23:28 < reenoo_> ok thx
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23:36 < rxr> "SCO systems and 'Target Deprecation'" in gcc
23:37 < rxr> this shit shows up everywhere ...
23:37 < mnemoc> define: everywhere
23:39 < rxr> now even on the gcc-devel list ...
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23:53 < mistik1> evening guys
23:55 < mistik1> It seems my first build attempt has failed
23:59 < mistik1> this is odd
23:59 < mistik1> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 305: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory
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