--- Log opened Wed Jul 23 00:00:04 2003
--- Day changed Wed Jul 23 2003
00:00 < mistik1> root@localhost:/data/rock-src-2.0.0-beta7# ls -l /usr/bin/time
00:00 < mistik1> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        10260 2003-06-28 04:25 /usr/bin/time
00:02 < rxr> mistik1: is this in the beginig ? At which package build does this error happen  ?
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00:04 < mistik1> I tracked it down to the time package missing
00:04 < mistik1> see, i'm getting it already ;)
00:04 < mistik1> File not found: download/base/time/time-1.7.tar.bz2
00:04 < mistik1> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
00:04 < mistik1> that is in the .err file
00:05 < mistik1> for the GNU Time package
00:08 < mistik1> I see now why this happened, I was not paying attention when I did ./scripts/Download -required
00:09 < mistik1> now that I am paying attention a couple packages failed checksum, such as tree
00:13 < mistik1> How do I force a build to continue at the place of error
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00:16 < mistik1> nevermind, I found it
00:16 < jsaw> mistik1: remove the cksum-err extension from the downloaded files and cont.
00:17 < mistik1> yep
00:19 < mistik1> this looks like a portion that needs more intuitive error reporting
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00:54 < jose> i need help with: zum geburstag viel gluck <= what it means ?
00:54 < jsaw> happy birthday
00:55 < jose> with 4 words!, german seems complicated!, tanx jsaw !
00:56 < jsaw> hehe, more complicate, but more exact (/me hides now)
00:56 < jsaw> no, the exact translation would be something like:
00:57 < jsaw> for your birthday I wish you luck
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00:58 < rxr> much luch
00:58 < rxr> ;-)
00:59 < jsaw> thx, correct.
01:00 < rxr> /luch/luck/ even
01:00 < rxr> way to speed ...
01:00 < rxr> er late
01:00 < rxr> I should stop coding
01:00 < jsaw> :) ... :]
01:01 < jsaw> netconfig... don
01:01 < jsaw> this damned return next to '
01:01 < jsaw> netconfig... don't forget, net.plug exports INTERFACE and HWADDR.
01:03 < jose> jsaw I hope that wasn't a joke!, it was for the manager of the building!
01:05 < jsaw> what a wonderful name, Jose H... H... . Sounds like the name of a great torero.
01:06 < jose> jsaw i'm!, u don't know me!?
01:07 * jsaw and names are two different worlds.
01:07 < jsaw> I can remember faces, but not a single name (for more than a month if I don't use it)
01:09 < jose> jsaw hidalgo and herrera are common last names!, here and in spain!, not a big deal!
01:10 < jsaw> ah so. (I had a spanish girl friend once, so it was not that far away for me to believe, u really are)
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01:12 * jsaw off grabing a coffee
01:12 < rxr> 25°C in the outside
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01:13 < rxr> uhm - and between some CPUs here in my room even more
01:13 < rxr> damn summer
01:19 < jose> so, by peaces: glueck: luck, wunsch = ?, zum= yours ?, geburt = birth, stag =day, herzlichen = for real ?
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01:27 < jsaw> wunsh: wish(es), zum = for
01:27 < jsaw> s/wunsh/wunsch/, damn, denglish
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01:31 < mistik1> We need a campain to knock SuSe out the box as the distro of choice for your region of the world :)
01:31 < jsaw> ?
01:31 < mistik1> we can stand on the highest mountains shouting Rock Rock! Rock!
01:31 < mistik1> jsaw: ignore me, its just hunger talking
01:32 < jsaw> hunger for what? world domination?
01:33 < mistik1> hehe, I'm just being silly while I wait for supper
01:33 < mistik1> and here it comes now
01:34 < jsaw> 1.30am, I'm getting hungry again too
01:35 < mistik1> 19:34 here
01:36 < rxr> my personal opinios is that SuSE is less crippled than RedHat ...
01:38 < jsaw> oh oh, linking dietlibc dynamically is broken...
01:44 < jose> jeje, i just change the name of lo to loopita in a guy's machine, and he is so stranged !!! jajjajaja
01:52 < rxr> jose: yes - dietlibc is currently not supposed to be dyn-linked
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01:59 * jsaw is leaving the lab now, cu l8r
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02:28 < demian> re
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02:44 < rxr> hi daja77
02:45 < rxr> oh shit - hot did it become so late ?
02:47 * SMP writing /sbin/rockifcfg demo code :)
02:49 < rxr> no wonder if one needs to dig into XFree and Linux FB code to get useable output on a RS/6000 ...
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03:00 < mistik1> hey SMP
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03:19 < rxr> oO the next big svn changeset due to dependency resolving ...
03:22 < SMP> rxr: can we talk about the net config before or after the night?
03:23 < rxr> what exactly do you want to design now?
03:24 < SMP> general things like ifplugd integration, network config profiles
03:25 < SMP> and I think I have a scheme that lets us use powerful config files (for the usual cases) or just an (admin)written ad-hoc script for complex configs
03:27 < rxr> hm- since it is 3:30 maybe for a useful phone tarlk it would be better to do it tomorrow evening ?
03:28 < SMP> sure, no problem
03:28 < SMP> I'll write some more code until then
03:28 < SMP> ;)
03:29 < rxr> I also just heared about ifplugd the first time ...
03:30 < SMP> don't worry, it's completely optional (but very cool)
03:31 < rxr> do we need it if rockplug call our network config scripts ?
03:31 < rxr> seems to be redundant
03:32 < SMP> plugging in the sense of ifplugd means plugging the cable in and out, not the device
03:32 < rxr> ah - oki
03:32 < rxr> -i
03:32 < SMP> brb
03:35 < rxr> yeah! A matrox framebuffer onthe RS/6000 !!!!
03:35 < rxr> also not yet correctly fixed in the kernel
03:42 < rxr> weee - X running!
03:43 < rxr> also on the framebuffer
03:43 < rxr> but all other 65 1/2 trieds in whatever thinkable configuration faild ....
03:57 < jsaw> gn8 guys
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04:01 < SMP> re
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04:03 < rxr> hi SMP
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04:19 < mnemoc> rxr: do you have time to solve the share between gcc3 and gcc33?
04:20 < mnemoc> gcc33 do some x-3
04:21 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - maybe tomorrow err read after sleep
04:22 < rxr> I just hacked too many hours on the RS/6000 ....
04:22 < mnemoc> how is it going?
04:23 < rxr> all exept X runs quite ok
04:24 < rxr> I did all the bug hunting on the iBook
04:24 < rxr> the last months ...
04:24 < mnemoc> great :)
04:24 < rxr> but getting a boot-loader on the box was a wohle day rebooting every 30 minutes ... - totally different from Apply NewWorld machines
04:25 < rxr> and X is still crap - as is the Matrox framebuffer on this box
04:25 < mnemoc> i can't imagine an RS/600 running KDE ;)
04:25 < mnemoc> yaboot is 100% working?
04:25 < rxr> yes - now it works
04:25 < mnemoc> Matrox fb isn't supported by kernel?
04:25 < rxr> native mga driver of X ust
04:26 < rxr> is not working in any FrameBuffer combination I tried
04:26 < rxr> the matrox framebuffer is working when the OpenFirmware FrameBuffer is not compiled into the kernel ...
04:26 < mnemoc> o_O
04:27 < rxr> but on SPARC and my iBook the ati resp. the radeon framebuffer are able to relocate the IO resources - the matrox FB is not
04:27 < rxr> (I need to read deeper into this - I have not yet found what the ati/radeon drivers do different)
04:27 < mnemoc> any third-party patch?
04:28 < rxr> the RS/6000 stuff is barely documented - only outdated crap on the net
04:28 < rxr> this is why it took a day to find out how the OF wants yaboot (although I already knew yaboot from the iBook ....)
04:29 < rxr> anyway much progress - and I need sleep
04:29 < rxr> ah - and the XFree people are not responding - as usual
04:30 < mnemoc> go you sleep... you earn it ;)
04:30 < rxr> sleep well, too!
04:30 < mnemoc> tahnks
04:30 < rxr> cu today - after sleep ;-)
04:30 < mnemoc> hehe
04:30 < rxr> ah - and I plan to do cluster builds using the iBook and the RS/6000
04:31 < rxr> they are a nice duo ;-)
04:31 < rxr> bu now I'll really leave ... hehe
04:32 < mnemoc> :)
04:32 < mnemoc> 4:35am there.... the sun will apear soon
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07:05 < Pyro> re
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07:30 < blindcoder> moin
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09:06 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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09:47 < owl> moin
09:49 < blindcoder> moin owly ^^
09:50 < owl> moin blindcoder
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10:05 < DeElsasser> moin all
10:05 < blindcoder> moin moin
10:06 < DeElsasser> can someone say me why I have this message when I di svn up:
10:06 < DeElsasser> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer
10:06 < DeElsasser> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme: "http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk"
10:10 < owl> hi DeElsasser
10:10 < DeElsasser> hi owl
10:10 < blindcoder> old svn version?
10:11 < DeElsasser> it's my new target, has it changed this last week?
10:12 < DeElsasser> version 0.24.2
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10:13 < blindcoder> hm, strange
10:13 < DeElsasser> I don't find the original command line to init svn-trunk in the new html pages
10:15 < DeElsasser> ok, find it: same eroor
10:15 < DeElsasser> did I forgot somethink in my target?
10:16 < DeElsasser> fake here?
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10:20 < n00kie> cd /join #openbsd
10:20 < n00kie> lol
10:20 < esden> n00kie: ? o_O
10:20 < n00kie> :)
10:20 < esden> hi n00kie 
10:21 < n00kie> heya esden :)
10:21 < esden> n00kie: infecting #rocklinux with #openbsd? ;-)
10:22 < n00kie> Hehe, eher infecting #openbsd with rock
10:22 < n00kie> Nah, I'm searching someone :)
10:22 < esden> ahh ... ok ... that is allowed
10:22 < esden> "wszystko ma swoje priorytety ... niestety ..."
10:23 < esden> ahh I love that song
10:23 < n00kie> I guess "priorytety" means prioritaet?
10:23 < n00kie> ;-)
10:27 < owl> hi esden , n00kie
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10:31 < blindcoder> esden: ???
10:31 < blindcoder> you here?
10:31 < blindcoder> at half past ten?
10:31 < blindcoder> Maybe I have to start believing in miracles again :)
10:33 < owl> hoeh?
10:33 < blindcoder> owl: well, it's highly unusual for esden to be awak before noon, given that he has slept at all.
10:34 < owl> but what has this to do with miracles?
10:35 < blindcoder> owl: do you know the german saying "Es geschehen noch Zeichen und Wunder"?
10:39 < owl> nope..
10:41 < blindcoder> well, then you've just learnt something ^^
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10:59 * blindcoder --> lunch
11:05 < owl> YES!!! matrix reloaded on SVCD - nice. *jumping around*
11:21 < esden> re ... puhh ... 
11:21 < esden> ok ... now my car battery is beeing charged ...
11:22 < esden> and my brother is on his way to poland ;-)
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11:22 < esden> now I should have more time ... *hope*
11:23 < rxr> re
11:25 < owl> hi rxr
11:28 < Aard> gna. why are all my lusers phoning when I want to call them?
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11:39 < blindcoder> esden: re
11:40 < blindcoder> Aard: because they want to tease you
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11:44 < esden> hi blindcoder 
11:44 < owl> someone knows if the "stadwerke muenchen" or so is providing a _GOOD_ job as "azubi fachinformatiker anwendungswenticklung"
11:44 < owl> (and if they're still searching for sept. 2003 ?)
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11:44 < esden> Aard: it is called telepathy ;-)
11:45 < owl> hi tcr
11:45 < blindcoder> owl: why SWM?
11:45 < blindcoder> esden: will you be at bitz today @17:00 ?
11:46 < owl> blindcoder: think they mgiht use linux in the ausbildung, too... and might i will change the company... (because i don't learn things here)
11:46 < tcr> moin all
11:46 < blindcoder> owl: hmm... okay, sounds like a fair argument
11:46 < blindcoder> tcr: moin
11:47 < blindcoder> esden: I got the cam and I just have to get 5-tar to build to have an installable minimal target
11:47 < owl> blindcoder: yes. if a company is not willed to buy a fscking book for learning how to use this fscking ado.net and c# and you have to learn everything by using inet (which doesn't help) - and additional stuff...
11:48 < blindcoder> owl: I know the problem and I didn't critisize you
11:48 < blindcoder> (spelling pendant)
11:48 < owl> well.
11:49 < owl> *yawn*
11:50 < blindcoder> esden: ping
11:50 < fake> *hust*
11:50 < blindcoder> fake: want a cough-drop?
11:50 < blindcoder> fake: hi, btw ^^
11:50 < fake> hi
11:50 < fake> blindcoder: at the cluster yet?
11:50 < blindcoder> fake: do you have time this evening, too?
11:50 * fake is ill
11:50 < blindcoder> fake: not yet, starting today.
11:51 < fake> i think i might feel good enough tomorrow or on friday again
11:51 < blindcoder> fake: "Gute Besserung!"
11:51 < fake> thanks
11:51 < blindcoder> fake: good, I hope we have the cluster up and running by then.
11:51 < fake> and, not any cough-drops, i want DMX ;)
11:52 < blindcoder> So that we can start the work itself. I have the digital camcorder so we can produce the first episode of ROCK Linux TV ^^
11:53 < fake> "and here we can see a melting workstation..."
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11:54 < blindcoder> hehe, yeah something like that ^^
11:54 < owl> hi fake
11:54 < rxr> cu - me at work
11:55 < blindcoder> rxr: have fun :)
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11:55 < owl> bye rxr
11:55 < fake> hi owl
11:55 < fake> bye rxr
11:55 < blindcoder> I'm currently thinking about going to CCCamp on the 8th of August...
11:56 < owl> fake: how are you, today?
11:56 < blindcoder> erm, 9th
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11:56 < owl> just one day? O_o
11:56 < blindcoder> esden: PING! PONG! PING! PONG!
11:56 < blindcoder> owl: well, I have to work, you know...
11:56 < tcr> I'll be in holiday at the time c3camp takes place >:(
11:57 < owl> blindcoder: why not vacation during camp?
11:57 < blindcoder> owl: because I've almost used up my yearly vacation
11:57 < blindcoder> I'm on vacation form 20th august until 9th of September
11:57 < blindcoder> and have already taken 10 days earlier this year
11:58 < blindcoder> that leaves me with ~5 days for the rest of the year
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11:58 < blindcoder> If I'm very lucky I can take overtime at the 8th of AUgust, but that's not sure...
11:58 < fake> i won't be on cccamp
11:58 < fake> owl: a bit better
11:59 < blindcoder> ah fine. 5-tar builds if one disables NLS ^^
11:59 < fake> should i read through my assembler book or watch tv?
12:00 < blindcoder> book
12:01 < tcr> what asm book?
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12:04 < fake> "Das Assembler-Buch" from addison-wesley
12:04 < fake> (Trutz-Eyke Podschun)
12:04 < tcr> Nice book, but it ain't really about assembler
12:05 < fake> but?
12:05 < tcr> I have learned a lot about architecture but not how to write assembler
12:05 < fake> me, too ;))
12:05 < fake> i thought reading it again might help
12:06 < fake> (i was 13 when i read it)
12:06 < tcr> I was one year older iirc
12:07 < fake> can you recommend anything?
12:07 < tcr> What for?
12:08 < tcr> What about rather
12:09 < fake> writing assembler
12:10 < tcr> I still can't it ;)
12:10 < fake> *g*
12:10 < fake> okay, then i'm away, reading. cu later
12:10 < tcr> hmm
12:10 < tcr> wait
12:10 < owl> bye fake
12:11 < fake> hm?
12:11 < tcr> I bookmarked linuxassembly.org and Art of Assembler has been published for free use lately
12:12 < tcr> Haven't the url to AOA at hand, g00gl3 for it :)
12:13 < fake> kewl
12:13 < fake> got it
12:13 < fake> http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/Page_AoALinux/aoapdf.tar.gz
12:13 < fake> complete book in pdf format
12:13 < tcr> Yup
12:14 * tcr away (eating)
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12:15 < fake> finished aaaand i'm off
12:15 < fake> bye
12:17 < blindcoder> hmm
12:18 < blindcoder> I wonder if esden didn't write a highly complex IRC-AI that answers here for him...
12:18 < blindcoder> that would explain the high latency...
12:20 < owl> hmmm...
12:21 < owl> *yawn* sitting in front of the PC and starring to the monitor is extremely boring
12:23 < blindcoder> yes, I know waht you mean
12:27 < owl> hrm... having enough money to go to the restaurant and eat meal or so...
12:28 < owl> hmmm... it would be at least enough to kill the time...
12:28 < owl> 220 builds total, 190 completed fine, 1 with errors.
12:29 < blindcoder> well, I had two picese of "Leberkas" today
12:30 < owl> waeh. leberkaes...
12:32 < owl> <-- prefers dead cows or so.
12:32 < blindcoder> hmmm
12:33 < blindcoder> the only drawback with thhe new writer is that it can write CDs only with 12x
12:33 < blindcoder> does anyone know a nice cheap IDE-Controller with Linux support
12:34 < owl> <-- eating.
12:34 < owl> bbl
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12:54 < knoti> moin
12:54 < knoti> blindcoder: I will have baked beans and potatoes ...
12:54 < blindcoder> moin moin
12:55 < blindcoder> I still have two apples lying around here ^^
12:56 < esden> hmm ... ok ... I created another packet ... *sigh*
12:57 < blindcoder> wwhich one?
12:57 < esden> ekg : Experimental Client for Gadu-Gadu instant messaging system. Gadu-Gadu is the most popular instant messaging system in poland.
12:58 < blindcoder> I see
12:59 < esden> I have centericq packet lying around here too ... I will have to test it ... probably update and then send to the list ...
13:02 < blindcoder> isn't centericq already packaged?
13:02 < SMP> I thought Gadu-Gadu was popular in the Far East most of all
13:02 < SMP> blindcoder: no
13:03 < blindcoder> SMP: okay, my mistake
13:03 < esden> SMP: gadu gadu is a polish product ... and all my polish friends are using it ... and the menus are only in polish IIRC
13:05 < SMP> probably I confused it with Trepia
13:05 < esden> SMP: can be ... dunno
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13:14 < mihi_> hi all
13:16 < blindcoder> hi hi
13:26 < fake> tcr: now i remember why i learnt almost nothing from that book (das assembler buch)
13:26 < fake> tcr: it doesn't want to be read, it made me stop reading after only 20 pages
13:26 < fake> tcr: it's disgusting.
13:29 < fake> .oO( why does clifford have an acc on my laptop? a backdoor in rock? )
13:29 < fake> *g*
13:31 < fake> ah, no, i added it on lxtag
13:32 < owl> re
13:35 < fake> re owl
13:35 < owl> thx
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13:40 < owl> hi real-time-clock.
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13:42 < DeElsasser> re
13:45 < owl> hi tfing , DeElsasser
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13:49 < fake> someone should tell adobe that acrobat reader for unix is ugly
13:49 < fake> or at least, looks ugly wrt the menus
13:49 < DeElsasser> hi fake
13:49 < fake> DeElsasser: hi
13:50 < DeElsasser> fake: don't look at my kernel config file; it works now :-)
13:50 < mihi_> is there any need for acrobat?
13:50 < DeElsasser> don't know why, I rebuild all from scratch...
13:51 < tfing> hi owl
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13:52 < fake> oh? i already felt guilty for not having looked at it already ;)
13:52 < fake> DeElsasser: what was wrong?
13:52 < fake> mihi_: the rendering is much cleaner than in gv or xpdf, at least IMHO
13:52 < DeElsasser> fake: I don't know
13:53 < fake> DeElsasser: *shrug* okay ;)
13:53 < DeElsasser> but I have always the problem with devfsd on boot
13:53 < mihi_> i know xpdf doesn't render anything, but it is faster, much faster, and not proprietary
13:54 < DeElsasser> so I remove it from init, is that a problem?
13:54 < fake> mihi_: the format is also proprietary... ;)
13:54 < fake> DeElsasser: what does it complain about?
13:54 < DeElsasser> it stop booting
13:55 < fake> no error message or something?
13:55 < DeElsasser> there is only the version number of devfsd
13:56 < fake> hm...
13:56 < DeElsasser> then I removed it and after boot I do /sbin/defsd /dev and it works
13:56 < fake> also no problems with devfsd here...
13:56 < owl> Error logs from default-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree:
13:56 < owl> 220 builds total, 220 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:57 < owl> hmm... someone interested in it...?
13:57 < fake> *applause*
13:57 < DeElsasser> tataaaaaaaaa
13:57 < owl> :p
13:57 < DeElsasser> hi owl
13:57 < owl> hi DeElsasser - how are you?
13:58 < DeElsasser> good: I'm about eating some sausages...
13:59 < mihi_> don't remond me i had no lunch
13:59 < owl> DeElsasser: again? *g*
14:00 < DeElsasser> are there others things I can eat?
14:01 < owl> yes... ratpoison *vbeg*
14:03 < DeElsasser> I'm not a rat :-(
14:03 < owl> muhahahaha. i forgot. you're less than a rat - you're a man *vbeg*
14:05 < DeElsasser> mir sagte man dass owl eine schönes und charmantes fraulein wär...
14:05 < blindcoder> owl: can't you behave like a civilized human every onc in a while?
14:05 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: well... somebody lied...
14:06 < owl> blindcoder: ...
14:06 < DeElsasser> aha!!!
14:06 < owl> DeElsasser: *rofl*
14:07 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: let's put it this way: she be beautiful if she would wear something else than T-Shirt and chokers with spikes
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14:09 < owl> spikes?
14:09 < blindcoder> owl: "Stacheln"
14:09 < owl> blindcoder: ah so.
14:10 < owl> *har* *har* some people want me even if i'm wearing army boots, chokers with spikes, t-shirt and jeans
14:11 < blindcoder> well, those peolpe suffer from ddb, no doubt.
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14:11 < tcr> ddb?
14:15 < owl> blindcoder: wtf is ddb?
14:15 < DeElsasser> owl: I see you make a minimal target with X, I do something like with gnome: ISO=450Mb :-)
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14:16 < blindy> hmm
14:16 < owl> i c.
14:16 < blindy> strange, my machine at home shouldn't be reconnecting at this time of the day...
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14:17 < DeElsasser> the problem are mozilla and openoffice, I used the precompiled versions, is it  possible to automate there installations?
14:17 < owl> blindy: what is ddb?
14:19 < DeElsasser> DieDeutscheBahn?
14:19 < owl> waaaaaaaah. this was "absicht"
14:20 < blindy> deaf, dumb and blind
14:21 < owl> why deaf and dumb?
14:21 < owl> just because they don't want one of those blonde dumb "i want to fsck a rich man who will give me money for everything i want"-girls?
14:22 < blindy> *sigh* you're just looking at extremes... as usual.
14:22 < owl> and?
14:22 < blindy> you knaw, there isn't just black and white.
14:22 < owl> it is
14:23 < owl> forgot my pink glasses at home today. might i would see the world pink then
14:23 < owl> (and because pink-black --> dark-pink and pink-white --> light-pink and normal-pink , there are other colors than just pink)
14:24 < blindy> sometimes I wonder if females are really equipped with Brain V1.0
14:25 < DeElsasser> lol
14:25 < fake> blindy: if you read the bible, you'd know that they actually have a revised brain V1.0 Rev B
14:26 < fake> whereas we men still work on Rev A
14:26 < mihi_> never change a running system :P
14:26 < DeElsasser> ...and all this because I'm eating sausages...
14:27 < fake> but i think God's R&D Dep. messed Rev B up, maybe the testing phase wasn't long enough before it went productive.
14:27 < blindy> fake: well, they may have fixed a few bugs from rev A to rev B... but you know how it is with bug-fixes... fix one bug, introduce 3 new ones.
14:27 < owl> blindy: as you can see in the in the real life, there are many dumb women! but you don't believe me. have you ever asked yourself why you don't have a gf? oh boy - come on! wake up!
14:27 < owl> fake: *kick*
14:27 * fake wasn't involved
14:28 < fake> my first appearance is in the new testament ;)
14:28 < blindy> owl: well, have you ever thought about why you are always depressed where I - without gf - aren't most of the time?
14:28 < owl> fake: *rofl*
14:28 * fake is jesus, but don't tell anyone
14:28 < owl> blindy: because i'm watching news, thinking and stuff?!
14:28 < owl> hi jesus, how are you? :p
14:28 < fake> depression is a physical illness
14:28 < blindy> fake: Jesus? MY SON! Just wait till you get home *grr*
14:29 < owl> fake: not really... at least not here...
14:29 < fake> blindy: na na, i found friends in hell
14:29 < blindy> owl: no. because you are usually overreacting. I watch news, too. So, the world is dowwn in the dumps as usual. What's for dinner tonight?
14:29 < fake> blindy: no, that is ignorance ;))
14:29 < fake> 'fatalism'
14:29 < blindy> fake: well, that's fine. According to the bible it isn't so hot down there than up here.
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14:30 < owl> blindy: overreact? *har* i'm having borderline - so i'm allowed to overreact. !!!!
14:30 < blindy> fake: maybe. But it also won't change anything if I'm going crazy about it. Well, I might get stuffed into a "hab-mich-lieb-jacke" but that's about it.
14:30 < owl> and for the dinner: take a part of a tree and bite in it!
14:30 < blindy> owl: okay, I'll take two apples then.
14:31 < owl> a baumstamm
14:31 < fake> blindy: in my case, the current happenings in america (especially the jessica lynch lie, as reported yesterday in the local newspaper) at least makes me _worry_ a lot
14:32 < owl> ack.
14:32 < blindy> worry, yes. but going crazy about it like owl does ("This and that happenend, oh my god, what am I going to do?") doesn't help anyone
14:33 < DeElsasser> fake: what is about jessica lynch?
14:33 < owl> and closing the eyes and saying "well, i'm _loving' life and why should i care about stuff" doesn't help, too. but if you're e.g. political engaged, you're able to change a bit of the shit
14:33 < fake> DeElsasser: that female american soldier that was 'shot down' by iraqi soldiers, and then tortured in a hospital and freed with lots of shooting from it?
14:33 < blindy> Jessica Lynch? Wasn't that that yemale soldier who was said to be a PoW?
14:34 < fake> DeElsasser: in reality she broke bones, as she crased into her foremans vehicle
14:34 < fake> DeElsasser: she was acutally rescued in an iraqi hospital
14:35 < blindy> owl: so you want to be engaged in something that you yourself called "a huge bunch of fat people who only care about their own proft"?
14:35 < fake> DeElsasser: the people working there even spent their private money to give her better food, because the usual one wasn't tasty for her
14:35 < owl> ... just read "stupid white men" - and get even more depressed ...
14:35 < DeElsasser> if that could be the only lie about iraq :-(
14:35 < fake> DeElsasser: they decided to bring her to her people, and drove an ambulance right in the direction of an army camp
14:35 < fake> DeElsasser: but this BASTARDS shot at the ambulance! THEY SHOT AT AN AMBULANCE!
14:36 < owl> blindy: yes. sure. if i'm engaged i don't have to become like those assholes. (and i guess the PDS hasn't too many fat, profit-geile old assholes)
14:36 < fake> DeElsasser: that is about the greates war crime one  can commit
14:36 < mihi_> sorry guys, don't want to desturb you, but whats the real URL for mine, http://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/GEM-MI
14:36 < mihi_> doesn't work
14:36 < mihi_> (of course NE follows)
14:36 < fake> DeElsasser: they then found out where she is 'kept hostage' and 'freed' her with much shooting and nightvision googles and a hollywood ressigeur
14:37 < fake> DeElsasser: she returned home yesterday, and the us army doctors diagnosed a non-repairable partial amnesia...
14:38 < blindy> fake: well, usually you call things like that PR-Stunts or "Wahlk(r)ampf" if I'm not much mistaken...
14:38 < fake> DeElsasser: in other words, either she is brainwashed, or she is ordered to hold her mouth shut.
14:38 < jsaw> wag the dog...
14:39 < fake> blindy: that's something else, i think. shooting at ambulances is not pr...
14:40 < blindy> fake: no, but the part after that.
14:40 < fake> shooting at ambulances is a civil and war crime, which, in my very humble opinion, shows, that america is no longer in the consitution to think and act clearly, and that the UN should take over instantly.
14:41 < blindy> well, for me that seems just like the most recent proof of that fact, not the first one...
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15:28 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
15:29 < owl> wb esden
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15:32 < tcr> Hrr. bingo, bingo, bingo!
15:34 < fake> regeeeen!
15:34 < fake> rain!
15:35 < owl> fake: *kick* in munich sun *cries*
15:35 < tcr> I wished it were here
15:35 < tcr> s,ed,,
15:35 < fake> it's raining like mad
15:35 < owl> *gnarf*
15:38 < mistik1> moin all
15:39 < owl> hi mistik1
15:41 < DeElsasser> au revoir tout le monde, à demain...
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16:02 < rtc> Wow! It's ROCKing more and more: Rock 2.0.0-beta6 with hardw accl geforce4-driver - it couldn't be faster with OpenGL I would say ;)
16:02 < rtc> thx 4 this beautiful distri
16:02 < rtc> :X
16:02 < rtc> ;)
16:04 < SMP> are there any good GL test programs / benchmarks? (apart from installing some ego shooter)
16:05 < fake> glxgears?
16:05 < fake> and, blender has some test/performance metering mode, iirc
16:05 < fake> with a pretty large list to compare with
16:06 < fake> (but don't ask me how to invoke it)
16:08 < Mike1> ls
16:08 < Mike1> ;-
16:08 < Mike1> moin all
16:08 < SMP> yeah, we need an OpenGL version of /bin/ls ;-O
16:08 < Mike1> SMP: :P
16:08 < Mike1> SMP: Wie geht es Ihnen?
16:09 < fake> SMP: there is fsv, the file system visualizer
16:09 < fake> looks like the one in jurassic park 1, if you remember ;)
16:10 < SMP> you can't own an SGI and not know fsv :)
16:10 < SMP> I used to have some obscure clone of that for Linux .. somewhere ..
16:10 < SMP> Mike1: freaking tired
16:11 < Mike1> SMP: oh, sorry to hear that.. if it is of any help i'm feeling just the same way.
16:11 < Mike1> ping christ|an
16:12 < SMP> Mike1: at 8 o'clock in the morning? ;)
16:12 < Mike1> SMP: remeber i sleep in the day..
16:12 < Mike1> if i sleep..
16:12 < fake> SMP: fsv.sf.net. maybe? ;)
16:13 < SMP> uh, yah, looks familiar
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16:14 < Mike1> SMP: you taugh me well i guess.
16:14 < Mike1> taught*
16:14 * fake away, cu later
16:17 < owl> bye fake
16:17 < owl> hi Mike1
16:17 < Mike1> hi sed.
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16:31 < rolla> re
16:59 < daja77> moin
17:00 < owl> <-- off. leaving office
17:15 < mnemoc> goooood morning vieeeetnam!!
17:15 < mnemoc> re
17:15 < daja77> good morning chile!
17:15 * daja77 off again
17:16 < daja77> cu
17:16 < mnemoc> bye daja77
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17:26 < alexander> Hi all
17:26 < alexander> Something is very very wrong with 2.0-beta6 mini.. Whats this
17:26 < alexander> gunzip /tmp/qmail-1.03.tar.gz
17:26 < alexander> gunzip: /tmp/qmail-1.03.tar: No space left on device
17:27 < mnemoc> # df
17:27 < alexander> I first got the same response with lynx when trying to save a file. I thought it was just a thing. But now when gzip says the same im not sure that thats the case
17:27 < Mike1> alexander: it means ur /tmp has run out of space man..
17:28 < Mike1> alexander: as mnemoc said run 'df' and see the status of your hd space availability
17:28 < alexander> Hmm, wait a minute.. My mistake..
17:28 < rolla> ouch
17:28 < Mike1> hehe
17:28 < alexander> Hmm, better check some things once again. Ill be back :)
17:28 < Mike1> hi mnemoc :)
17:29 < Mike1> alexander: ok.
17:29 < mnemoc> hi Pyro
17:29 < Mike1> mnemoc: :P
17:29 < mnemoc> brb
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17:33 < rolla> why is c++ so slow to compile :(
17:36 < alexander> Haha, oki, i was to fast. The gzip thing was actually a diskspace thing
17:36 < alexander> But lynx cant save downloads :-(
17:36 < alexander> Im feeling a bit stupid :)
17:38 < rolla> yes it can
17:38 < blindcoder> alexander: 'a'
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17:56 < rolla> yawn
18:01 < daja77> :P
18:02 < alexander> Anybody has qmail installed?
18:05 < rolla> nope
18:07 < alexander> What can this be?
18:07 < alexander> tcpserver.o(.text+0x55f): In function `doit':
18:07 < alexander> : undefined reference to `errno'
18:07 < alexander> And lots of more junk to the same reference
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18:16 < dennis> hi
18:16 < mnemoc> alexander: errno is a 'classic' new glibc issue
18:17 < mnemoc> you have to patch the source of 'tcpserver' to remove 'extern int errno' and add '#include <errno.h>'
18:18 < mnemoc> of every file using errno ;)
18:23 < alexander> hmm, sounds not to fun
18:25 < mnemoc> SHIT!! ww.rocklinux.org is down :(
18:27 < alexander> ahh, compiling, great :).. Why dont they include errno.h by default
18:27 < alexander> uhh?
18:28 < mnemoc> old glibcs didn't need that
18:29 < mnemoc> and the author (professor dan bernstein) is not an 'open mind' person
18:29 < mnemoc> but there are patches around the net to solve this particular issue
18:33 < alexander> almost done editing :)
18:35 < daja77> alexander: you could link qmail against dietlibc
18:35 < mnemoc> tcpserver package is in my *fat* todo list
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19:22 < mnemoc> owl: ping
19:31 < tcr> moin all
19:31 < tcr> rxr: ping
19:34 < mnemoc> moin tcr
19:34 < tcr> mnemoc: Is there any newer ISO than beta6?
19:36 < tcr> I wonder..
19:41 < owl> rehi
19:41 < owl> mnemoc: pong
19:42 < mnemoc> owl! :)
19:42 < mnemoc> i have a problem with a dictionary and you can help me :)
19:42 < owl> hi mnemoc. attention i'm exploding today...
19:42 < mnemoc> :-\
19:43 < mnemoc> i have a dictionary based on DictionaryBase, a coplue of adds and a foreach
19:43 < mnemoc> but i get the entries in 'random' (thread?) order :(
19:44 < mnemoc> any idea how to solve that?
19:44 < owl> DictionaryBase? what is this?
19:44 < mnemoc> c#
19:44 < mnemoc> System.Collections.DictionaryBase
19:44 < mnemoc> i know you know, so don't hide
19:45 < owl> hm. no idea. sorry. don't know c# well. got no course, book or so.
19:45 < mnemoc> :(
19:46 < mnemoc> i'll have to implement my own dictionary :(
19:46 < owl> hm. have fun...
19:47 < mnemoc> sure
19:47 < mnemoc> :-|
19:47 < owl> but why to implement your own dictionary? you just have to "search for the right words in the www, then you will find the solution" (as my braindead chief says) *jumping out of window*
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19:47 < mnemoc> o_O
19:48 < owl> mnemoc: pardon? a bit shocked or so?
19:48 < mnemoc> no route to brain o_O
19:48 < owl> ack
19:48 < owl> no brain available
19:49 < owl> "we don't need to provide books. you have to watch into the www! that's all you need to code. you stupid asshole (aka programmer)" *GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*
19:49 < owl> (sorry. i'm almost exploding...  beceause my fscking company)
19:49 < mnemoc> same here
19:50 < owl> *gnarf* is the world currently completly insane?
19:53 < Mike1> AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:54 < owl> Mike1: ?
19:54 < Mike1> owl: just probing your theory about the World insanity ;-)
19:55 < mnemoc> almost.. but they are doing everything to convert us :)
19:55 < owl> mnemoc: yes...
19:55 < owl> Mike1: *kick*
19:55 < Mike1> owl: why are you kicking me?
19:55 < owl> Mike1: because the "probe"?
19:55 < Mike1> talkumnwho is converting us?
19:56 * Mike1 alien --to-rpm mnemoc :))
19:56 < Mike1> s/talkumnwho/mnemoc
19:56 < Mike1> ok yes i am a bit distracted today
19:57 < tcr> Today is relative, you know :P
19:57 < owl> and /me is destructive...
19:57 < Mike1> hi tcr
19:57 < Mike1> owl: destroy me.. _NOW_
19:57 < tcr> moin Mike1. Do you happen to have some ISOs newer than bta6?
19:57 < owl> Mike1: not you
19:58 < Mike1> tcr: nah sorry, i haven't build anything in 2 weeks.
19:58 < Mike1> tcr: if i have time i will try to build on the weekend, but its not a sure thing yet, i'm have so many things to do.
19:59 < tcr> I'd need it tomorrow
19:59 < Mike1> tcr: oh then sorry i can't help you this time, maybe you can ask daja77
19:59 < Mike1> or rxr.
20:00 < tcr> Will do so
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20:00 < Mike1> owl: would you please kick me?
20:01 < owl> Mike1: why?
20:01 < Mike1> i need it.
20:01 < owl> Mike1: *kick*
20:02 < Mike1> OH YEAH! do it again do it again
20:02 < owl> nah
20:02 < Mike1> :(
20:02 < Mike1> then hug me.
20:02 < Mike1> :(
20:02 < owl> nah
20:02 < Mike1> :((
20:02 < Mike1> ok.
20:04 * owl np: pennywise - fuck authority!
20:06 < mnemoc> owl loves her boss :)
20:07 < Mike1> mnemoc: nah, she loves to make coffee for her beloved boss :)
20:07 * Mike1 hides
20:07 < mnemoc> heheh
20:07 < owl> mnemoc: yes.
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20:08 < Mike1> 0_o
20:08 < owl> aned now i'm off. i have to go bicycling a bit...
20:08 < Mike1> bicycling 0_o
20:08 < mnemoc> Mike1: don't forget the massage ;)
20:08 < Mike1> enjoy.
20:08 < Mike1> mnemoc: lol.
20:08 < owl> won't enjoy it. will just try to power /me off
20:08 < Mike1> owl: cycling is cool :)
20:08 < mnemoc> free bad karma ;)
20:09 < owl> mnemoc: nope.. you can say racing...
20:09 < Mike1> owl: ok yes i love racing, i'm a bit insane so what? :)
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20:37 < rolla> yawn
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20:42 < mnemoc> damn.... the dictionary is implemented over a hastable, and the keys are returned in hash order :(
20:43 < daja77> hehe
20:44 < mnemoc> i'll have to implement one :(
20:44 < mnemoc> hash+linked list
20:44 < tcr> moin daja77!
20:44 < daja77> huhu tcr
20:44 < tcr> daja77: Say, so you have any ISOs that're newer than the rather old, but offical beta6 ones?
20:45 < tcr> s,so,do,
20:45 < mnemoc> daja77: did you meet her?
20:45 < daja77> nope
20:45 < tcr> Grrmplf
20:45 < tcr> Was that nope directed to me or to amery?
20:45 < daja77> mnemoc: nope, she but she wrote mail again, and we'll meet tomorrow
20:45 < tcr> Hrmpf
20:46 < daja77> tcr: i have a build but made no isos, so far
20:46 < mnemoc> good luck ;)
20:46 < daja77> :)
20:46 < tcr> daja77: What does so far mean? And how much bandwith would you have anyway?
20:47 < tcr> I need the ISOs tomorrow, so I'd have to download them tonight
20:47 < daja77> it makes no sense for me to create new isos, cos almost the same packages are borken in rc1 than beta6
20:47 < daja77> I only have isdn, so i don't think you'll like it
20:48 < tcr> Well, there've been some complains about beta6
20:48 < daja77> + I have no time playing with rock atm
20:48 < tcr> Read: several bugs has been revealed since its relase
20:48 < daja77> tcr: yeah but mostly about drock
20:48 < mnemoc> many 'stuff' was fixed... and lot of broken packages added
20:48 < daja77> *gg*
20:49 < tcr> Well, I'll wait for rxr, then decide
20:49 < daja77> if you don't wanna do netinstall, the generic isos should work fine
20:49 < daja77> probably he has newer isos
20:49 < mnemoc> ask Mike1
20:50 < tcr> I want to install it on an ol' dad's laptop I wanna take with me when flying to Malta on friday
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20:50 < tcr> I already questioned Mike1, he doesn't have any handy
20:50 < daja77> uh recent linux on old hw
20:50 < tcr> Old is relative
20:50 < daja77> do you have enough ram and diskspace?
20:50 < tcr> It's a amd 233mhz iirc
20:51 < tcr> 32mb ram and about 3gb disc space
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20:51 < daja77> 32mb ram, ok then the beta6 isos will not work for you
20:51 < tcr> w2k works on it, so there should be no problem
20:51 < tcr> Why that?
20:51 < daja77> 2nd stage small, is borken in beta6 iirc
20:52 < tcr> Anyway, I hope rxr can help...
20:52 < daja77> but maybe you try a newer minimal iso from Mike1 and install the rest of the packages manually
20:52 < tcr> Otherwise I must stick with another distribution (any recommendations?)
20:53 < daja77> if I really could recommend other distros, i wouldn't be here
20:53 < tcr> Well...
20:53 < daja77> ;-)
20:54 < daja77> just try what I suggest or ask rxre for newer isos ...
20:54 < tcr> Yeah
20:54 < tcr> Just wanna take it with me for the case that I'll have a free evening (unlikely, honestly ;))
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20:55 * daja77 never takes computers with him on holidays
20:55 < tcr> Me actually either, but...
20:55 < tcr> ... I'll use it for code lecture
20:56 < tcr> And printing several Ks of source code ain't that practical ;)
20:56 < daja77> I don't do any computer related stuff in holidays
20:56 < daja77> that's what holidays are for me ;-)
20:57 < daja77> even if I have to admit that some brilliant thoughts about computer problems often strike me on holiday dreams ...
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20:59 * daja77 goes back to his books ...
20:59 < daja77> cu
21:01 < owl> rehi
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21:13 < owl> hi mir
21:14 < mir> hi
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21:25 < alexander> Hi all
21:26 < tcr> Moin alex
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22:58 < mnemoc> gantt is not happy with this
22:58 < Pyro> mnemoc: mm i see
22:58 < Pyro> hi esden
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23:15 < Pyro> ok back to my workstation
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