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--- Log opened Thu Jul 24 00:00:35 2003 --- Day changed Thu Jul 24 2003 00:03 -!- gomer [~markus@backslashdot.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:50 -!- esden [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:52 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/ 07:52 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Wed Jul 2 21:53:27 2003] 07:52 (Users #rocklinux) 07:52 [ Aard ] [ esden] [ Mike1 ] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 07:52 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ mistik1 ] [ praenti] [ tfing ] 07:52 [ cchamilt ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tjakordhul] 07:52 [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] [ zitronix ] 07:52 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 20 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 07:55 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002 07:55 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 372 secs 07:58 < blindcoder> moin esden 08:02 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:20 < cchamilt> Hello all. 08:24 < blindcoder> moin chris 09:04 < daja77> moin 09:05 < blindcoder> moin daja77 09:05 < daja77> hi blindy ;-) 09:07 < blindcoder> everything alright? 09:07 * daja77 still waiting for her ... 09:09 * blindcoder too 09:09 < daja77> ok we should open a club 09:09 < daja77> *argl* /me listening to library women 09:10 < blindcoder> library... brrrr 09:11 < daja77> yeah think we should go somewhere else, when she arrived 09:11 < daja77> library women talking about computer problems *gnarf* 09:14 < blindcoder> uh-oh 09:15 < daja77> yepp *roflmao* 09:16 < daja77> ...und wenn ich da drauf geklickt hab, krieg ich immer nen weissen Bildschirm... 09:17 < blindcoder> ehm.... then don't do that? 09:17 < daja77> und dann geht gar nix mehr und man muss alles neu starten ... 09:19 < daja77> well the interesting part is, not that they tell this some technical stuff, no she tells this to the probably oldest women, they have in staff 09:19 < daja77> s/stuff/staff 09:19 < blindcoder> erm... 09:19 < blindcoder> I do't have to comment, do I? 09:19 < daja77> if you feel like it ;-) 09:20 < daja77> i know that you are working at a luser hotline, so this stuff seems to be pretty normal to you 09:22 < blindcoder> yeah, that's the problem... it's too normal to stillwonder about it. 09:22 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2889.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:22 < daja77> hmm maybe I should print the merkbefreiung and hand them out to them 09:24 < daja77> btw I recently logged into grandma's pc to kill some processes she accidently started ;-) 09:24 < daja77> I mean remote, it was fun to listen to her comments on the phone 09:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:25 < blindcoder> daja77: yes, I think so :) 09:25 < daja77> hehe 09:26 < Nebukadneza> hi 09:26 < daja77> well the luser in the university administration are worse 09:26 < daja77> lusers 09:26 < daja77> hi nebu 09:26 < blindcoder> hi Nebukadneza 09:26 < blindcoder> daja77: why? 09:26 < knoti> moin 09:27 < Nebukadneza> /dev/hdb1 /store ext3 0 0 09:27 < daja77> well we have nt based terminals for students here, they are fscking up every time 09:27 < Nebukadneza> whats wrong with this fstab entry? 09:28 < blindcoder> there's a noauto / auto entry missing 09:28 < blindcoder> the options entry 09:28 < daja77> the best thing was, as they wanted to shoot a photo from me for identity card, they had to reboot 3 different nt boxes for this, several times 09:28 < blindcoder> /dev/hdb1 /store ext3 auto 0 0 09:28 < Nebukadneza> ah ... thx 09:28 < blindcoder> daja77: MUAHAHHAHA 09:29 < daja77> and that so called admin was a bad joke 09:29 < blindcoder> well... 09:29 < blindcoder> isn't Windows-Admin and competent mutually exclusive? 09:29 < daja77> you know they say: on windows there are no admins, only lusers 09:30 < Nebukadneza> can i mount a nfs with the fstab too? 09:30 < daja77> yes 09:31 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: sure. you can even mdo loopback mounts via fstab 09:31 < Nebukadneza> 192.168.0.1:/shr /net nfs 0 0 09:32 < blindcoder> again, there's auto missing 09:32 < blindcoder> 192.168.0.1:/shr /net nfs auto 0 0 09:33 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB5A8AB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:33 < Nebukadneza> blindcoder: *argh* im a idiot! 09:33 * daja77 makes a note 09:34 < blindcoder> moin rtc 09:34 < daja77> O_o aol.com wtf 09:35 < rtc> moin @ all ;) 09:36 < Nebukadneza> oookay 09:36 < Nebukadneza> and now i'll try to build a om cluster and play rtcw-et on it *hrgr* 09:36 < daja77> blindcoder: have you transfered your hotline to this chan?! 09:37 < blindcoder> daja77: no... then it would be *.siemens.de 09:37 < blindcoder> But the idea is interesting... 09:37 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 < [anders]> moin 09:37 < blindcoder> hi [anders] 09:37 < daja77> you know that you can be shot for that 09:37 < daja77> ah ibm is joining 09:37 * blindcoder ? 09:37 < daja77> hi [anders] 09:38 < [anders]> lo blindcoder, daja77 09:38 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-6-154.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:38 < frediz> hi there 09:38 < daja77> blindcoder: which part of you can be shot, you haven't understood? 09:38 < [anders]> daja77: well, I am on site at the moment.. 09:38 < daja77> better than joining from aol ... 09:38 < [anders]> daja77: amen 09:38 < blindcoder> daja77: I wasn't sure if yfou meant me for redirecting hotline, or rtc for using aol ^^ 09:39 < daja77> hmm if you ask this way, I'd say both *vbeg* 09:39 < owl> moin 09:39 < [anders]> lo owl 09:39 < daja77> moin owl 09:39 < frediz> I'm new to rock (not even installed ;), I just wanted to know if rocklinux is fully under gpl (code/doc... except logos from what I read) 09:39 < blindcoder> moin owly 09:40 < owl> hi daja77 , guten tag blindcoder 09:40 < daja77> yes ... yes it is 09:40 < frediz> thx daja77 09:40 < [anders]> frediz: I'd say that most, if not all, is under the GPL 09:40 < daja77> some packages are not, but the rock code itself is 09:41 < [anders]> there might be some packages that are included that use their own licence, not the GPL, most notably is Apache 09:41 < frediz> Ok, but if rock itself is, thats the principal to me 09:42 < daja77> you are from Lyon? 09:42 < frediz> well a bit in the south :) 09:43 < daja77> that is strange every french I ask doesn't live in the city as wanadoo announces 09:43 < frediz> lol 09:44 < daja77> I wonder if the people who live in that cities, even know internet 09:44 < daja77> or do they have better providers than wannabee ;-) 09:44 < frediz> :) Its just that the town that appears is some kind of "central" place for the region 09:45 < frediz> ... mmm from what I know, thats just wanadoo, other isp works without town names :) 09:46 < daja77> hehe it is france telecom after all ... 09:46 < frediz> :) 09:46 < Nebukadneza> daja77: are you french? 09:46 < daja77> nope 09:46 < daja77> watch my whois ;-) 09:47 < frediz> You could have been some "alsacien" living in germany ;) 09:47 < daja77> hehe deElsasser is not here atm 09:48 < Nebukadneza> ups 09:48 < Nebukadneza> sry 09:48 < owl> *yawn* 09:48 < daja77> I've been to france several times, that's all 09:48 < Nebukadneza> :() 09:48 < Nebukadneza> "hehe it is france telecom after all ..." <- is was supriesed by that 09:48 < frediz> btw reading the first of rocklinux's handbook : "Warning, this document is Copyrighted" ??!! 09:48 < frediz> Nebukadneza: me 2 09:49 < daja77> hah you can even know that by reading stuff like www.heise.de ... 09:49 < Nebukadneza> löl 09:49 * daja77 has a wanadoo cdrom at home ... 09:49 < Nebukadneza> one question: most people here are german ... why does evrybody speak english? 09:49 < frediz> hehe 09:50 < frediz> for people like me ? 09:50 < frediz> ;) 09:50 < daja77> Nebukadneza: cos only _most_ people are german 09:50 < Nebukadneza> :) 09:50 < Nebukadneza> daja77: hmm --> youre right 09:51 < frediz> Ok so what is licence's policy for rocklinux documentation ? 09:51 < daja77> well it is rxr's self made license 09:51 < daja77> afaik 09:52 < frediz> Huh? thought all was released under gpl 09:52 < blindcoder> the things in rock-src/Documentation are 09:52 < blindcoder> the Handbook is not 09:52 < daja77> the handbook is not included in rock src 09:52 < frediz> ok 09:53 < Nebukadneza> ohh ... what is /proc/kcore? 09:53 < frediz> ok guys thx for your help, cya! 09:53 < blindcoder> bye frediz 09:53 < daja77> cu 09:57 < daja77> *rofl* the fun continues 09:58 < owl> fun? where? 09:58 < daja77> ...hmm I got an error 420, well i'll look it up... well there is no error 420, i only have 422... 09:58 < fake> mornin' 09:59 < owl> ouch 09:59 < blindcoder> moin fake 09:59 < owl> hi fake 09:59 < daja77> owl: /me is at the library and listen to the women working here ... 09:59 < Nebukadneza> hi fake 09:59 < daja77> hi fake 09:59 < Nebukadneza> fake: can i qry? 09:59 < owl> daja77: ah. i c. 09:59 < blindcoder> fake: are you well again? 09:59 < fake> Nebukadneza: go ahead 09:59 < fake> blindcoder: much better. 09:59 < fake> blindcoder: why did you try to log into my machine yesterday? 10:00 * fake logfile reader 10:00 < blindcoder> fake: because neither apol/lo nor crazyhorse was reachable anymore and I wanted to know whether the problem washere @SIemens or at home 10:00 < blindcoder> turned out, it was at home 10:00 < blindcoder> accidentally tried again today, because of bash_history 10:01 < fake> blindcoder: m'kay. excuse accepted ;) 10:01 < blindcoder> fake: good ^^ Can you be at bitz today? 10:01 < fake> blindcoder: did you get that portmap thing running? 10:02 < blindcoder> fake: yes, it worsk now 10:02 < blindcoder> fake: We started a first build yesterday for testing. 10:02 < blindcoder> fake: one machine isn't installe yet, we wanted to keep that last one for ROCK TV #1 :-) 10:03 < fake> blindcoder: i saw a nice article about gnuplot in the linux magazine yesterday 10:03 < owl> rock tv? a bit "groessenwahnsinnig" today? 10:03 < blindcoder> fake: what did it say? I'm not a Linux Magazine reader 10:03 < fake> blindcoder: i want to make a 3d chart. time per package / size of package / avg load? ;) 10:03 < blindcoder> owl: not more than I always have been. 10:04 < owl> blindcoder: aha. then everything is clear. 10:04 < blindcoder> fake: just gimme the command to run 10:05 < fake> blindcoder: i think it's not that easy. we would have to parse the build logs... 10:05 < fake> blindcoder: are you @bitz now? 10:06 < blindcoder> fake: I'm @work,, will be at bitzz around 17:00 10:06 < fake> blindcoder: ah, okay. 10:06 * fake wants to get the festival speech output plugin finished today ;) 10:06 < blindcoder> festival speech output? 10:07 < daja77> plugin for which app? 10:07 < fake> for the Build-Target output? 10:07 < fake> *gg* 10:07 < daja77> *lol* 10:08 * daja77 notes that some women have sucking voices ... 10:09 < blindcoder> Well, i'm satisfied with my irssi output plugin 10:09 < fake> the voice should be selectible in scripts/Config, don't you think? but i vote for female. 10:09 < daja77> oh i was referring to rl women ... 10:10 < blindcoder> math sucks. my gf doesn't >_< 10:10 < daja77> huh? 10:10 < blindcoder> don't mind ^^ 10:10 < daja77> poor blindy 10:10 < owl> your gf, blindcoder ? 10:10 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB5A8AB.ipt.aol.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 10:11 < daja77> hehe death due provider 10:11 < fake> his intimate liiation to his right hand? 10:11 < fake> muha. 10:11 < blindcoder> sure, right invites left and we make a threesome. 10:11 < blindcoder> fake and his imagination *shakes head in disbelief* 10:12 < daja77> ... so mein junge, nachdem sie dich verlassen hat, musst du dein leben wieder selbst in die hand nehmen... 10:12 * daja77 hides 10:12 < fake> blindcoder: call it 'first hand experience'.. *rofl* 10:15 * daja77 getting nervous 10:15 * Nebukadneza thorws a atlix3000 at daja77's head 10:15 < Nebukadneza> throws 10:15 < daja77> whatever 10:15 < Nebukadneza> :) 10:16 * fake ran out of cigarettes 10:16 < daja77> oh horror ;-) 10:17 * Nebukadneza hates drugs! 10:17 < fake> yeah, now i'll have to walk the looong way down the whoooole road... 10:18 * fake wants the Playstation 2 Linux Kit, damn it 10:18 < blindcoder> fake: You will die from exhaustion :D 10:18 * Nebukadneza hates ps2 and wants a cracked xbox *hrhr* 10:18 < fake> but i'll get cigarettes first. brb. 10:19 < daja77> >_< they said they have none over 10:19 < fake> Nebukadneza: the ps2 rulez. it's a great architecture, with everything you want. and, it includes a really nice mips processor... 10:19 < [anders]> Need to get 32.7MB of archives. 10:19 < [anders]> After unpacking 220MB disk space will be freed. 10:20 < [anders]> hehehe 10:20 < fake> eeek. debian *shivers* 10:20 < Nebukadneza> hm? 10:20 < [anders]> *eg* 10:20 < daja77> fake: btw i told the story about that cobalt thing, and some people told me they think sun should have given to you more recent hw 10:20 < [anders]> acquiring lots of kernel packages/patches 10:20 < fake> daja77: the problem is, there is no more recent hardware with mips processors from sun...? 10:21 < daja77> hmm I was told there is with R16K 10:21 < [anders]> I need to get FreeS/WAN working, and there is an extra patch required to make it working for the IBM stuff.. 10:21 < fake> really? 10:21 < fake> hm... 10:21 < daja77> think so, but I can't tell for sure 10:21 < fake> however, my accu is draining and i need nicotine. brb. 10:22 < daja77> cu 10:22 < Nebukadneza> fake: rock doesnt like my pc 10:22 < daja77> aha 10:34 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-6-154.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("away") 10:34 < Nebukadneza> hm 10:34 < Nebukadneza> i wonder if there is any possibility to code a graphical kernelcompile gui with progressbar :) 10:35 < daja77> muahaha why that 10:35 < [anders]> Nebukadneza: it would be to tricky and not enough gain in it 10:35 < Nebukadneza> [anders]: *boff* 10:36 < [anders]> boff? :) 10:36 < Nebukadneza> boff is something like ... *depressed* 10:36 < [anders]> ah.. :) 10:37 < daja77> hey man relax, read a good book or meet a girl, but don't waste your time like this 10:37 < Nebukadneza> are 3503742 bytes for a vmlinuz bzimage okay? 10:37 < [anders]> well, in order to make a gui that is accurate enough, you would require an additional 'make dep' phase that calculates just how many files that will be compiled 10:37 < [anders]> Nebukadneza: that must be your vmlinux image 10:38 < Nebukadneza> [anders]: and ... that guys who write kernels would pass throught that easy 10:38 < [anders]> no way that one is compressed 10:38 < Nebukadneza> argh ... 10:38 < Nebukadneza> sure? 10:38 < [anders]> Nebukadneza: you'd need to take in to account that not all people compile all things. 10:38 < Nebukadneza> are 1282682 okay? :) 10:38 < [anders]> more like it. :) 10:39 < [anders]> the compressed image is usually hiding in arch/i386/boot and is called bzImage 10:40 < Nebukadneza> i remembered 10:40 < Nebukadneza> have to reboot for the mosix image :) 10:40 < Nebukadneza> brb 10:40 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 10:40 < [anders]> ok 10:41 < [anders]> a gui to track the kernel compile progress.. *eurgh* 10:41 < daja77> hehe 10:41 < [anders]> why not just read what's on the console?? 10:41 < daja77> cos $lusers have to compile kernels these times 10:43 < [anders]> err.. there is always (make menuconfig && make rpm) 10:43 < daja77> and of course it have to be easy and graphical 10:43 < [anders]> it'll tell you when it is done 10:44 < [anders]> hmm... I can see traffic on lkml increasing a lot if a lot of people start building their own kernels.. 10:44 < [anders]> I do it because I have a tendency to apply patches that I need. but I also have some clue as to why and how.. 10:45 < daja77> I can nearly see the advertising: building your own kernel with just 4 mouse clicks 10:45 < [anders]> and I have good friends I can ask if things go pearshaped. :) 10:45 < [anders]> daja77: please don't.. that conjures very disturbing images into my head. 10:46 -!- Nebukadneza [~arklinux@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:46 < daja77> yeah guess what, I have read: install linux with only four mouseclicks on linuxtag ... 10:46 < Nebukadneza> argh 10:46 < daja77> the debian people I told this, said they install their linux usually with 0 mouse clicks 10:47 < Nebukadneza> ohaaa 10:47 < Nebukadneza> shit! 10:47 < Nebukadneza> shit! 10:47 < Nebukadneza> shit! 10:48 < daja77> the toilet is next door 10:48 < Nebukadneza> i crashed my nice debian with this fucking shitty mosix fuck 10:48 < owl> *g* bad luck 10:48 < Nebukadneza> aarrr 10:48 < Nebukadneza> shit! 10:48 < Nebukadneza> these fucking idiots from mosix 10:48 < fake> aw. 10:48 < Nebukadneza> i'll kill them 10:48 < daja77> nice debian ... oxymoron detected 10:48 < Nebukadneza> anyone who helps me with a ddos? 10:49 < daja77> kill yourself, if you don't keep old kernels for rescue 10:49 < cchamilt> uh, hi all 10:49 < owl> hi cchamilt 10:49 < cchamilt> yeah, shouldn't play with a system if you arent prepared to hose it. 10:50 < [anders]> lo cchamilt 10:50 < cchamilt> besides mosix isnt that useful 10:50 < daja77> lol 10:50 < fake> cchamilt: g'mornin! 10:50 < fake> Nebukadneza: relax, what's up? 10:50 -!- Nebukadneza [~arklinux@dsl-213-023-059-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:51 < blindcoder> cchamilt: welcome back ^^ 10:51 < fake> cchamilt: not useful, but nice to play with, imho. 10:51 < cchamilt> about the only thing I saw speed up is the cheezy perl script examples. 10:51 < fake> i get 8 download errors from orig. locations in svn rev 878 (iirc) 10:52 < fake> cchamilt: compiles can speed up a lot if started with -jX 10:52 < cchamilt> It gives you maybe 10% boast on some operations using two nodes. I guess in someways it is as cost effective as smp. 10:52 < daja77> or hyperthreading 10:53 < cchamilt> hyperthreading is a joke. 10:53 < [anders]> amen 10:53 < fake> cchamilt: you should switch your network from bnc to 1000MBit someday ;) 10:53 < cchamilt> compile speed up anyways. 10:53 < cchamilt> dual 100Mb 10:53 < blindcoder> Hyperthreading: CPUs with multiple personality disorder 10:53 < daja77> rofl 10:53 < [anders]> CPU's like the IBM POWER4 is quite nice tho 10:54 < fake> nah, MIPS R14k will rock you 10:54 < [anders]> draws quite a bit of current, but hey, you get two cores on a chip. :) 10:54 < cchamilt> well integrating parallelization into the pipe is not the same as smp, but hooking two cores up to a cache is. 10:55 * [anders] is looking forward to the new PPC chip this autums 10:55 < [anders]> autumn even 10:55 < cchamilt> I would like to be a ISV for IBM if I ever finish my software. 10:55 < daja77> *lol* now they can't access the web and still aren't calling for service staff 10:56 < blindcoder> daja77: that's a good(!) thing 10:56 < daja77> hehehe 10:56 < blindcoder> daja77: that gives the service staff time for _really_ imprtant things like nethack or bzflag 10:56 < owl> .oO(gamer!) 10:57 < cchamilt> I have a question about the rock stuff I submitted to the list... 10:57 < blindcoder> owl: there's no "woman" in "huMAN" 10:58 < cchamilt> Does anyone want this stuff or is it too fluffy? 10:58 < owl> blindcoder: aha? and? 10:58 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I think it' a good idea, but should be able to be toggled 10:58 < blindcoder> for example on a mchine without net-connection or something 10:58 < cchamilt> hmm, it would error as normal then though... 10:58 < cchamilt> an error is an error. 10:59 < blindcoder> [ ] Automatically download missing package- 10:59 < cchamilt> I would like [] Start download/build -> Config 10:59 < blindcoder> sure, but if the machine simply has no network it doesn't make sense to try to connect to 12 mirrors 10:59 < cchamilt> It wouldnt get any though... 10:59 < blindcoder> yes, but it wastes time 10:59 < cchamilt> no mirros.txt to begin with. 11:00 < cchamilt> Eh, hmm. Maybe it should be another wrapper. 11:00 < blindcoder> that's one of the reasons I wanted to use pkg_*_{pre,post}.conf for lpp instead of parse-config 11:00 < fake> cchamilt: what about a mirror-sanity check? 11:01 < blindcoder> parse-config is completely executed before each and every package build 11:01 < owl> GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! i'm hating my chief!!! 11:01 < fake> cchamilt: to adjust the mirror list, if one of them is not reachable constantly 11:01 < owl> and my fscking company 11:01 < blindcoder> I'll be back in 30-45 minutes --> linch 11:01 < cchamilt> It does the current mirror test and only catches the ones it can download from. 11:01 < cchamilt> bye 11:02 < fake> cchamilt: fine, then it's something i have been wishing for long ;) 11:02 < cchamilt> That list could be retested, but I thought that would be a waste. 11:02 * fake fixing download urls right now 11:02 < cchamilt> The only bug I know in it (other than whether it works with mirrors.txt) is that it recursively tries the download function 11:03 < cchamilt> I suck at shell programming, but it was just a demo patch. I figured it would inspire someone else to make a decent one. 11:04 < fake> cchamilt: it won't hurt either way. ;) 11:04 < cchamilt> The great thing is that it tries none at the end, so new packages that aren't mirrored are ok. 11:05 < cchamilt> I think it would be cool to be user friendly for this stuff. 11:06 < cchamilt> You know like a new user can start the whole thing by just running ./start.sh or something 11:06 < daja77> .oO guess cliford doesn't like that 11:06 < cchamilt> It sets up a config for the targets and an automatic one for bootdisk, then goes and builds it. 11:06 < fake> yeah, it is really getting on new user's nerves, if the build won't even start, because a package download failed 11:06 < daja77> cchamilt: stupid question, why can the newbie not just download ready images? 11:06 < cchamilt> Yeah, and I have no idea why he or anyone would care if rock becomes 'easy'. 11:07 < cchamilt> building images is rock, using images is drock or something else... 11:07 < daja77> nope 11:07 < cchamilt> we are a development system first. 11:08 < daja77> if you are giving a user a script called start which just runs a build without toggling anything, he can also use ready images, no? 11:08 < cchamilt> the script would be a wizard that runs the Config scripts. 11:09 < daja77> hmmm 11:09 < fake> but the config script is a wizard (kinda) ? 11:09 < fake> it's really colorful ;) 11:09 < cchamilt> It just walks the user through the few steps to start them toward an iso. 11:09 < fake> why is ncompress hosted on rocklinux.org 11:09 < fake> or, was? 11:10 < cchamilt> Yes, but you need to run Config twice, download, and build at least two targets. 11:10 < daja77> hmm but what's the gain? 11:11 < cchamilt> the script would do a Config -cfg boot, Config -cfg $x, Download -required -cfg boot/$x, Build-Target -cfg boot/$x, Create-ISO Rock boot $x 11:12 < cchamilt> with error checks and a simple menu system for adding multiple targets to the ISO. 11:12 < daja77> and you think that will attract people? 11:12 < cchamilt> anything that removes 'having' to read documentation helps. 11:13 < cchamilt> right now no one even knows to start with Config until they look for documentation and read the right file. 11:14 < daja77> you'd still have to know that you should run start *gg* 11:15 < cchamilt> ./Please_run_this_script_if_you_wont_read_docs 11:15 < daja77> hehe 11:15 < fake> *lol* 11:16 < fake> man Please_run_this_script_if_you_wont_read_docs 11:16 < fake> ;)) 11:16 < cchamilt> There is still a leap in logic that we need to create a boot target AND the target you want to install. 11:16 < fake> no, it's perfectly fine 11:16 < fake> it's a distribution targeted to install another. 11:17 < fake> i need a basic root fs for nfsboot and tftp on mips, and i can use the boot-target to install any rock version 11:17 < fake> don't touch it! ;) 11:17 < daja77> cchamilt: don't get me wrong but I really don't think that every distro has to attract desktop users 11:17 < cchamilt> Yes, so is that documented well? Cuz I dont see that in Doc... 11:18 < daja77> I have seen how rh got worse to use for admins, it would be bad if rocks develops the same way 11:18 < cchamilt> BUILD is just about a single target 11:18 < daja77> btw the user orientated gentoo is losing atm 11:18 < cchamilt> Yeah, so we just make a new menu dialog for new users... 11:18 < cchamilt> gentoo was never user oriented. 11:18 < daja77> they claimed to be 11:18 < cchamilt> it was just easier than rock. 11:18 < daja77> and many believed it 11:19 < cchamilt> yes and i am sexy babe friendly. sexy babes come use me! 11:19 < daja77> huh, it wasn't that difficult for me to figure out how rock works 11:19 < cchamilt> hmm, no sexy babes. 11:20 < fake> cchamilt: gentoo doesn't have sexy babes, they have teens... 11:20 < cchamilt> yeah, and most people could use gentoo. 11:20 < fake> cchamilt: as proved on lxtag ;) 11:20 < cchamilt> sexy teen babes? 11:20 < cchamilt> :) 11:20 < daja77> yepp we even had gentoo teens here in the chan, complaining about the gentoo chan 11:21 < fake> cchamilt: that's because of the character-by-character faqs on their webpage. cut&paste your source distro! wee! 11:21 < cchamilt> well drobbins is an interesting fellow i think. 11:22 < cchamilt> he at least sells things well. 11:22 < daja77> is it that guy who pisses his developers off? 11:22 < cchamilt> i still think he lifted meta-distribution from us 11:22 < cchamilt> Jocelyn came up with that word. 11:23 < cchamilt> I remember it coming up in the wiki 11:24 < cchamilt> drobbins appears to be a very obno... uh 11:24 < cchamilt> yes, he is that guy 11:25 < cchamilt> seemed nice last year when i talked with him 11:25 < cchamilt> anyway, we dont have to use the script. but i think people would start if it was there. 11:26 < daja77> dunno 11:26 < cchamilt> as long as rock doesn't start requiring it. 11:26 < cchamilt> If it is just a wrapper to other calls, then it should be safe. 11:26 < daja77> ack 11:26 < fake> cchamilt: make it a package? 11:27 < cchamilt> as long as no features go in it. 11:27 < daja77> rock-for-dummies package, yeah 11:27 < cchamilt> how would it be a package? 11:27 < cchamilt> something to download with rock-src.tar.bz2? 11:27 < cchamilt> or publish a rock-src-dumbies.tar.bz2 11:29 < fake> no 11:30 < cchamilt> Maybe it should be a Makefile in root or rock-src! 11:30 < fake> a seperate package? hm, okay, maybe it was a dumb idea. 11:30 < daja77> build rock with only four mouseclicks *har* 11:30 < cchamilt> zero mouse clicks till our dialog works with mice 11:30 < daja77> yepp :) 11:31 < cchamilt> make world 11:31 < cchamilt> make wizard 11:31 < daja77> hehe, but it is in fact make World ;-) 11:32 < cchamilt> it would also be good to check the host for correct tools if we get that easy. 11:33 < cchamilt> download and temporarily install bash, mktemp, tar, etc. if the host is old 11:34 < cchamilt> devfs would still hurt things. 11:34 < fake> cchamilt: stop it... my stomach... 11:34 < cchamilt> hey didnt clifford mention trying to make devfs optional 11:34 < daja77> yes but i guess not for 2.1 11:34 < cchamilt> he must be thinking this too. 11:34 < cchamilt> heh 11:35 < daja77> well somehow rxr is right, when he says not implement that many new features, to be able to release 2.2 early 11:36 < cchamilt> i dont think devfs optional would be that hard, just an optional tar package contain dev to dump into the chroot. 11:36 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tjakordhul, rxr, SMP 11:36 < cchamilt> or you could always tar up the hosts /dev and then dump it into chroot 11:37 < daja77> well I don't know for sure, when the devfs requirement will drop 11:37 < cchamilt> it is only needed for /dev/null and some of the lower level packages. 11:38 < cchamilt> It might be good to 'not' put a whole /dev in. 11:38 < fake> blindcoder: i could go to bitz now and install windows XP on all machines again, muhaha. 11:38 < fake> cchamilt: no, no, no! 11:38 < daja77> aaah why that 11:39 < cchamilt> what packages need access to hda? 11:39 * fake never wants to see any static device files again 11:40 < daja77> fake: this will be an option!, so calm down 11:40 < cchamilt> yeah, but just for the build system chroot.... 11:40 < fake> *head explodes* 11:40 < fake> cchamilt: i thought you were kidding!! 11:40 < cchamilt> it is a security feature 11:40 < cchamilt> no clifford has talked about it, it makes since to help lock down the chroot. 11:40 < cchamilt> sense 11:41 < cchamilt> people who are in debian and stuff shreak when we tell them we do everything as root. 11:42 < fake> i thought he wanted to write some fake devfs emulation daemon 11:42 < daja77> hehe I like to hear debian people scream 11:42 < cchamilt> I have yet to understand why it IS a big deal, but that is their whole fake_root philosophy. 11:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 11:43 < cchamilt> local user access on hosted build systems is about the only problem. So rock cant be built on sf.net, etc. 11:43 < fake> mine is the fake_rulez philosophy. 11:43 < fake> rxr: mornin' 11:44 -!- SMP_ [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:44 < cchamilt> rxr or node shift... 11:44 < cchamilt> hi node shift 11:44 < fake> *sigh*. 11:44 < fake> i'm only missing 2 packages... 11:45 < cchamilt> anyway, there would be some people more open to using rock if it could be built hosted. 11:45 < fake> https://www.codemonkey.org.uk/x86info/ 11:45 < cchamilt> I think we will just have to do uml version. 11:45 < fake> this is slow like hell or down? 11:45 * blindcoder back 11:45 < cchamilt> down from what i can tell. 11:45 < cchamilt> re bc 11:46 < fake> cchamilt: yes, but that is another perspective than simplyfing the build. 11:46 < blindcoder> what about rene's Emerge-Pkg? 11:46 < blindcoder> that's almost something like that, isn't it? 11:46 < cchamilt> yes I like Emerge idea. Maybe move Build-Target to Emerge-Target 11:46 < cchamilt> uh 11:46 < cchamilt> which conversation bc? 11:47 -!- tjakordhul [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 11:47 < blindcoder> *scroll* *scroll* 11:47 < blindcoder> damn luser too stupid to use irssi >_< 11:47 < cchamilt> we were on devfs needs and root needs... 11:47 * blindcoder == luser 11:47 < cchamilt> i can only use mozilla chat... 11:47 < blindcoder> irssi window was stuck 11:48 < cchamilt> yeah, back on that topic, emerge has some cool things since it checks dependencies too. 11:48 < cchamilt> however, with a decent Download l(something similar but better than my patch) and a little change to Build-Pkg you get the same thing. 11:49 -!- tjakordhul [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:49 < cchamilt> The build-pkg changes work really well. 11:49 < cchamilt> But dont include the heavy dependency checking, so is more suited to a target system with a static priority schedule. 11:50 < cchamilt> Like I told rene, Build-Pkg never gets ahead of Download in needing packages. Download is either ahead or trying to get the needed package. 11:51 < cchamilt> If no package exists, no lockfile for it exists, then download failed and build-pkg must abort. 11:51 < cchamilt> right now build-pkg wont wait for download, that is all this implements. 11:52 < cchamilt> the download patch just does more rigorous searches for the package before skipping a package. 11:53 -!- tjakordhul [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 11:53 < cchamilt> my unsent patch will try to Download $pkg if there is no lockfile or file present. It then checks again for the file before aborting. 11:54 < blindcoder> sounds good in my ears. 11:54 < cchamilt> That is the only one that triggers extra downloading. 11:54 < cchamilt> You could with it and the download patch start the whole build with just build-target now... 11:55 < blindcoder> still, if one mirror is not reachable (eg: no route to host) then it shouldn't try to contact that server again, but that's a general issue 11:55 < cchamilt> It makes more sense though to run a seperate download process. 11:55 < cchamilt> well it might only be that package that is missing on a fast mirror. 11:55 < blindcoder> it makes only sense if you have an internet connection. 11:55 < cchamilt> wouldnt be running download then. 11:56 < blindcoder> Here, however, I had the problem that the internet connection of my cluster would cost me money per MB, while it wsa free at home. 11:56 < cchamilt> also why i havent submitted the build-pkg with download. 11:56 < cchamilt> Could check a rock var I think. 11:56 < blindcoder> still, I like the patch and when I have a quiet minute I'll at least incorporate it into my personal tree. 11:57 < cchamilt> [ $ROCK_BUILD_TRY_TO_DOWNLOAD_IF_LUSER_MISSING_FILE = 1 ] 11:57 < blindcoder> because I always forget to run ./scripts/Download/ after I sync with rene's tree 11:57 < cchamilt> eep, download patch not well tested. 11:57 < cchamilt> or is the -eq 11:58 < cchamilt> clifford pulled mirrors.txt off today so it should be considered broken till i can actually test it... 11:58 < blindcoder> I always use == 11:58 < cchamilt> i am sure my bubblesort is correct... 12:00 < cchamilt> but i suck at coding so i am sure it isnt correct. 12:02 < owl> https://www.dgb-jugend.de/UNIQ1058620075051584211/SES73117299/doc13588A.html << if someone is interested in it... 12:02 < esden> g'day everyone 12:02 < owl> hi esden 12:02 < esden> yawn 12:02 < owl> lazy student. 12:03 < cchamilt> hi esden 12:03 < fake> hi esden 12:03 < owl> cool. guess my hard disc of my PC @ work is now defect, too... well. now i don't have to work anymore... 12:03 < esden> owl: stfu ... I hacked new output build output system for rock yesterday night ... so I am not lazy ! 12:03 < blindcoder> "Wiederholtes, verspätetes oder gar kein Vorlegen des Berichtsheftes. " 12:04 < blindcoder> hmm... I'd have been fired for 18 months ^^ 12:04 < blindcoder> hi esden *hug* 12:04 < esden> hi blindcoder *rehug* 12:04 < jsaw> re 12:04 < owl> esden: hmmm 12:04 < blindcoder> esden: which output plugin? 12:05 < esden> socket based ... with a server and client ... 12:05 < cchamilt> blinkenlight output? 12:05 < owl> blindcoder: hm. yes... "nach der rechtssprechund des bundesarbeitsgerichts steht dem azubi schadensersatz zu, wenn er vorzeitig aus dem vertrag aussteigt, weil gar keine oder keine ordnungsgemaesse ausbildung stattfand" *har* might i should really inform the IHK about my current situation... 12:05 < esden> it is more flexible and will allow to create lcd and irssi output in a way that is not a dirty hack ... 12:06 < blindcoder> esden: sweet *onemorehug* 12:06 * daja77 off now 12:06 < cchamilt> bye 12:06 < owl> bye daja77 12:09 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Mike1 12:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1 12:12 < SMP_> re 12:12 < owl> hi SMP_ 12:12 < fake> good evening, SMP_ 12:12 < cchamilt> hi smp 12:12 < fake> still awake? 12:12 -!- SMP_ is now known as SMP 12:13 < SMP> yeah, still 12:13 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 12:14 < fake> you know the sun rose already? 12:14 < fake> just so you not walk outside by accident... 12:14 < fake> don't... 12:15 < cchamilt> anybody know php well? 12:15 * SMP just did a quick trip home to get a shower, so ... 12:15 < SMP> cchamilt: probably me 12:16 < blindcoder> hehe, I like coding for a company where I won't work long anymore *MUAHAHAHA* 12:16 < owl> blindcoder: why? 12:16 < blindcoder> owl: no need for writing good / documented cde :D 12:16 < cchamilt> want to work on integrating a groupware appliance using php. 12:16 < owl> hehe. ack. 12:16 < blindcoder> no need for clean APIs, extendability and other shit 12:16 < cchamilt> all opensource. 12:16 < blindcoder> that is, olny if you don't really like the company :D 12:17 < owl> i like sitting in front of a computer which seems to have a defect harddisc... even not windows-installation is possible. 12:17 < blindcoder> cchamilt: will it fill my stomach? 12:17 < cchamilt> not now 12:17 < owl> (and as i know my company i won't get a new harddisc. so either i would buy a harddisce from private money or having a defect machine) 12:18 < SMP> cchamilt: uh, I'm not available for php coding for outside my company ;-) 12:18 < blindcoder> cchamilt: then I have to decline for now. 12:19 < blindcoder> Right now I need an income starting at 10/1/2003 12:19 < blindcoder> but as it seems, I can continue at IS 4 IT, just not at Siemens 12:19 < owl> so you have a new job? 12:19 < blindcoder> no, seems like I can keep the current one, just at another company. 12:19 < owl> i c. 12:19 < blindcoder> a new "internal" job you could say 12:20 < owl> they don't provide a "ausbildung als fachinformatiker anwendungsentwicklung" by accident? 12:21 < blindcoder> no 12:21 < owl> hm. shit :-( 12:21 < blindcoder> because we have no "Ausbildungslizenz" 12:21 < owl> *gnarf* *gnarf* *gnarf* 12:22 < owl> or might you know another company in IN or ND or M or so? 12:22 < blindcoder> hmm 12:22 < blindcoder> Klinikim Ingolstadt 12:22 < blindcoder> Klinikum 12:23 < owl> hmmm... afaik you have to enter the OPs... (at least it was told us... when we where there with the school) and my "magen wuerde das nicht wirklich verkraften" 12:23 < cchamilt> ok, i guess i will put it up on sf or something. 12:24 < owl> or don't have the fachinformatiker AE have to enter the OPs *hoping* 12:25 < blindcoder> owl: well, a friend of mine (Timo Kliemchen, FISI) continued his Ausbildung there... 12:25 < blindcoder> And I don't think he ever had to enter an OP where they were _WORKING_ 12:25 < owl> hmmm...oki. sounds acceptable ;) 12:26 < blindcoder> you might, however, havee to enter one before and after their worked (when it is clean and empty) 12:27 < owl> then it's ok. 12:30 < fake> owl: you don't have to, you are suggested to 12:35 < owl> hm. k. 12:37 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506992.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 12:38 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506992.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:41 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:44 < blindcoder> okay, done 13:04 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M272P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:07 < n00kie> Wow 13:07 < n00kie> The new webpage looks great :) 13:07 < n00kie> Also in w3m and links 13:09 < jsaw> hmm 13:10 < n00kie> Well, the "News"-Box on the rightsite looks not so good 13:10 < n00kie> but it's acceptable 13:10 < jsaw> I still don't like the gray background. 13:11 < blindcoder> well, personally I'd prefer a "What is ROCK Linux?" Site better than a sitemap on the frontpage... 13:11 < jsaw> ack. 13:12 < n00kie> well 13:12 < n00kie> it's a bit dark, jsaw 13:12 < n00kie> Could be done "heller" 13:12 < jsaw> n00kie: that's exactly what I'm complaining about. 13:12 < n00kie> yeah 13:13 < jsaw> I'll opt for #f3f3f3. n00kie, say it on the ML, Cliff's ignoring my critique. 13:14 -!- gomer [cherryston@backslashdot.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:15 < gomer> re 13:16 < n00kie> wb gomer 13:16 < n00kie> hmm jsaw 13:16 < n00kie> moment 13:17 < jsaw> n00kie: hmm, what? 13:17 < n00kie> #F0F8FF would be nice 13:17 < jsaw> yep, even better. 13:18 < jsaw> hi gomer 13:19 * owl kicks esden 13:19 < n00kie> thanks :) 13:19 < n00kie> Hi owl 13:19 < n00kie> How are you? :) 13:20 < owl> hi n00kie 13:20 < owl> feeling less than shit. thx. you? 13:21 < n00kie> Well, a bit headache, but fine, thanks :) 13:21 < jsaw> owl: a steady deep down and hi to the skies... 13:21 < n00kie> jsaw: I'm going to write a mail to the list 13:23 < rxr> clifford might just update the templates in various way - so this might be why he is not responding to every single one ... 13:24 < jsaw> rxr: relax. It was not that serious. I was just asking others, if they support my view. 13:24 < SMP> re rxr 13:25 < n00kie> wb rxr 13:25 < owl> jsaw: huh? 13:25 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAF64.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:25 < n00kie> Hi tcr 13:25 < jsaw> owl: huh? in what context? 13:25 < owl> jsaw: [13:21] < jsaw> owl: a steady deep down and hi to the skies... 13:27 < jsaw> owl: your mood is changing continously these days. I have to assume, it's pms. 13:27 < tcr> moin all 13:27 < tcr> moin n00k 13:29 < owl> jsaw: pms? what's that? btw, i'm just changing between depression and extremely agressive because of being angry and self-destruction 13:30 < blindcoder> Post-Mentruales-Stressyndrom 13:30 < owl> nah 13:30 < fake> nea 13:30 < fake> pre-menstrual 13:31 < fake> the days before the days are the real horror... 13:31 < jsaw> some girls both, pre and post. 13:32 < owl> .oO(fake is the real expert in menstruation - from experience *vbeg*) 13:36 < tcr> Blubb 13:36 < owl> bla 13:36 < SMP> //henry/d$ on /mnt3 type smbfs (0) 13:36 < SMP> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 on /mnt4 type ext3 (rw) 13:36 < SMP> /mnt3/shared/iso/generic-2.0.0-beta6-rev586+rev621-x86-i586_cd1.iso on /mnt4/mnt/source type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop/0) 13:36 < SMP> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 on /mnt4/mnt/target type ext3 (rw) 13:37 < SMP> and meanwhile e2fsadm -L 1G /dev/vg01/lv00 is running to free space for /mnt4/mnt/source/usr 13:37 < SMP> just the usual ROCK install =) 13:38 < SMP> for /mnt4/mnt/target/usr of course 13:38 < tcr> Smbfs? 13:39 < SMP> henry is a machine running Windows 13:39 < tcr> Why did you include that into the paste? 13:39 < tcr> Unintentionally? 13:40 < SMP> because that is where it loop mounted ROCK ISO comes from 13:40 < SMP> s,it,the, 13:40 < tcr> Ah. 13:47 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAF64.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.") 13:49 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9E7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:50 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M272P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 13:58 < fake> SMP: playing with lolita? 14:08 < SMP> so to say 14:18 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9E7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.") 14:19 < fake> the king of pr0n lays his hands on a sw33t lolita ... 14:26 < owl> someone wants a minimal_XFree-cd1.iso? (not bootable) or provides space to store it? 14:28 < blindcoder> not bootable? that's useless, isn't it? 14:29 < owl> why? you can install it if you have mine and a running linux 14:29 < SMP> or you can use another bootable rock cd or floppy set 14:30 < blindcoder> yes, but if you would compile a bootdisk target and specify it to Create-ISO I could install it on any machine with a CD-Rom 14:30 < fake> or a well equipped toaster 14:30 < blindcoder> fake: how come you know my toaster? 14:30 < fake> i talked to it on my last visit. 14:31 < blindcoder> fake: ah, I see. It didn't tell me about it... I have to cut its daily portion of bread. 14:31 < fake> he seemed very depressed already, read nietzsche... be nice to him. 14:31 < fake> it... 14:32 < owl> blindcoder: bootdisk-target... first esden should might fix the gawk-patch-error 14:32 < blindcoder> owl: well, svn HEAD compiled fin two days ago. 14:33 < blindcoder> fake: hmm... thanks for the hint... 14:34 < SMP> gah, I'm too tired and my kernel too fscked up. n8 .. 14:35 < jsaw> damn gnome. no real ALSA support... 14:35 < owl> blindcoder: ? 14:36 -!- DeElsasser [~Eric@ANancy-110-1-9-73.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < fake> n8 smp! 14:37 < owl> hi sausage-eater ;p 14:37 < owl> gn8 SMP 14:37 < DeElsasser> bonjour, charmante demoiselle 14:37 < DeElsasser> hi all the rest 14:37 < owl> *looking around* where? :P 14:38 < DeElsasser> question: why tar build in stage 1 and not in stage 5? 14:39 < jsaw> needed for pkg generation 14:40 < DeElsasser> requestion: why tar build good in stage 1 and give error when build in stage 5? 14:41 < DeElsasser> is my english so bad? 14:41 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: NLS-Problem 14:41 < jsaw> stage 5 is inside a chroot. If some compile fails prior to tar, it bombs. 14:42 < DeElsasser> blindcoder: what NLS? 14:42 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: disable NLS in ./scripts/Config and it works 14:42 < blindcoder> that's a bug I forgot to mention in my Mail 14:43 < DeElsasser> blindcoder: thx 14:45 < DeElsasser> other little question: there is only 1 game I play, lbreakout2, and it doesn't build, I look all dependencies, they are ok...? 14:46 < DeElsasser> is there a dependencie who is not in lbreakout2.cache? 14:48 < DeElsasser> or is it about gtk-perl10 who definitly not build? 14:51 < esden> ping blindcoder 14:52 < esden> blindcoder: you also forgot the userfriendlyness in "menuefuehrung" (I am still waiting for dict.leo.org to translate it) ... 14:52 < blindcoder> pong esden 14:52 < esden> menue guidance ... or so 14:53 < blindcoder> esden: yes >_< pleose post it as a reply, I'll leave in a few minutes 14:53 < esden> but I have to do one more instalation to write down which menue points should be switched in order 14:53 < esden> blindcoder: no problem ... 14:53 < blindcoder> esden: please also do not forget the thing about "Full Installation for WS" and "Small Install for Server" 14:53 < esden> blindcoder: we see eachother at 17 in bitz? 14:54 < blindcoder> I hope so... if the Deutsche Bahn doesn't interfere 14:54 < esden> blindcoder: I will pray for you 14:54 < blindcoder> esden: thanks :) I need every help I can get in this case :) 14:54 < esden> I get a shower now ... and move my ass to bitz 14:54 < blindcoder> okay, see you later 14:54 * blindcoder now leaving, too. 14:54 < blindcoder> bye all 14:54 < fake> bye 14:54 < esden> I want to do the installation ... and do the output stuff 14:54 < esden> cu blindcoder 14:55 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 15:00 < DeElsasser> waooo, rocklinux.org is red now... 15:02 < DeElsasser> good work, easier to find what is need :-) 15:03 < esden> the red color will change in the next time ... 15:04 < esden> cool ... there is a gnu version of netcat ... very nice 15:05 < esden> does anyone know a better alternative to netcat? 15:05 < tfing> what's the pb with nc ? 15:07 < esden> no there is no problem with nc ... since I found a gnu version (that is hopefully easier to package then the atstake.com version) 15:07 < esden> but I can remember that someone told me that there is a better alternative for nc 15:08 < tfing> oh 15:08 < esden> for the atstake version I needed half a ton of patches ... so that it compiles and installs propperly 15:11 < esden> ok .. the alternative is called socket ... 15:13 < fake> portmap? 15:13 < fake> ;) 15:13 < fake> esden: no, the links will stay red, and clicked links will turn black... 15:17 < esden> fake: ohh ... ok ... so I misunderstood the mail of cliff 15:19 -!- zitronix [~zitronix@p213.54.239.125.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:19 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tjakordhul, Mike1 15:20 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.239.125.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:27 < owl> *krah* downloading with isdn-speed... (in office) 15:28 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F37B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:33 < rolla> re 15:40 < fake> esden: no, i talked to him an hour ago or so 15:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1 15:47 < esden> fake: ok ... so your information is more up to date 15:47 < esden> fake: telephone? 15:47 < fake> j0. 15:50 < owl> ouch. office can't be installed on my win2k-prof-with-SP4. *running against the next wall* 15:50 * daja77 waves 15:54 < fake> rehi daja77 15:56 < owl> <-- off 15:56 < owl> bbl. ciao 15:58 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E22C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x3.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 < esden> owl: you are here in the wrong channel to complian about such things ;-) 16:01 < esden> hi daja77 !! 16:01 * -> esden waves to daja77 16:03 < dreamind> Hi esden 16:05 < DeElsasser> hi daja77: waves? 16:05 < esden> hi dreamind 16:06 < esden> ok ... I am off to bitz 16:07 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506992.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:09 -!- daddel9 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:10 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x3.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (":x") 16:13 -!- daddel9 is now known as Nebukadneza 16:24 < daja77> DeElsasser: winken 16:24 * daja77 now sleeping a bit 16:25 < DeElsasser> daja77: you sleep when others works? hou.... 16:37 -!- DeElsasser [~Eric@ANancy-110-1-9-73.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:58 < fake> cool, our l33t cat is visiting me 16:58 < fake> (i'd vote for a dog that's called 'echo' *g*) 16:59 * fake watching a storm build up 16:59 < Nebukadneza> fake: hum? 17:04 < fake> the scripts/Config help system is lacking a few features... 17:27 < rolla> :0 17:29 < esden> re hi all 17:30 < esden> fake: we are waiting for you ;) 17:30 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit ("upd kern") 17:30 < fake> esden: i need at least another hour of fine-tuning 17:32 * fake just had a mad idea 17:33 < fake> how about a bash-aliased make or a shellscript replacement for make, that LD_PRELOADs flistwrapper.so and executes make 17:34 < fake> and whenever it detects acces to a file that's not there, stops the make process, looks at it's flists of packages on a server, knows which package is missing, builds it, installs it, and unstops the make process again? 17:35 < fake> like a transparent emerge 17:35 < fake> in addition, any file that make creates would go into a logfile 17:35 < esden> sounds like a nice idea 17:35 < fake> and could even be converted into a rock package 17:35 < fake> *glowing eyes* 17:35 < fake> ;) 17:36 < fake> LD_PRELOAD is fun. 17:36 < esden> I can imagine that you like such a crazy idea ;) 17:37 < fake> and one could show melting gentoo logos all over the screen while the missing package is built in the background 17:37 < fake> muahhaa. 17:38 < Nebukadneza> i've to say sth. 17:38 < Nebukadneza> PSYCHO! *G* 17:38 < fake> *BRRR* 17:38 < Nebukadneza> löl 17:39 < fake> wilde fuechse verfolgen herrenlose haeuser! 17:39 < fake> *brrrz* 17:39 * daja77 checking why police is all over this town 17:39 < Nebukadneza> psycho ... 17:39 < fake> esden: but i could indeed finish my stuff in bitz. 17:40 < fake> it's only 900 gramm. 17:41 < Nebukadneza> your kewl tablet? 17:41 < daja77> *gna* https://www.freiepresse.de/TEXTE/KULTUR/UNTERHALTUNG/TEXTE/649176.html 17:41 < esden> fake: yes you can do it here ... I am sitting at my laptop too ... and hacking my stuff 17:42 * Nebukadneza is antiamerican! 17:42 < esden> fake: so move your lazy ass ;) 17:42 < fake> esden: have to copy rock-trunk & minimal downloaded files over WLAN first ;) 17:43 < esden> fake: then take another wlan card and combine them to one ... so that it is faster ;) 17:43 < fake> only one slot... 17:43 < esden> or use an airport card that is capable of multifrequency wlan ;-) 17:44 < fake> besides, i enjoy hacking outside, when it is raining... 17:48 -!- Meshugga [~philip@ns2.ucpag.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:48 < Meshugga> namd :) 17:49 < Meshugga> hm hm, kein clifford :)) 17:53 < fake> esden: is the WLAN at bitz functional ATM? 17:53 < fake> esden: i heard there is now even Bluetooth support? i might use that... ;) 17:57 < fake> esden: and finally: did you occupy the 'referentenrechner', too? i might have a really funny video, but it's wmv, and mplayer has problems with the sound 17:59 < fake> na, anyway, i'm on my way. i will park in the 'hof', i am still ill, and don't want to run through the rain... 17:59 < fake> brb. 18:01 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^afk 18:01 < Aard> I love my lusers. (man entering the room) `Mr. Wachter? Ah, I'll throw you out of the window' 18:11 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB102CB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:18 < daja77> Aard: hm? 18:18 < Aard> daja77: ? 18:18 < daja77> you throw him out, or he wants to throw you out 18:19 < Aard> he wanted to throw me out. after that, he wanted to shoot me 18:19 < daja77> but it is your job to shoot, no? 18:19 < Aard> jup. 18:20 < daja77> guess he mixed sth up 18:21 * daja77 got a luser mail today, will ignore it 'til next week 18:21 < Aard> he tried to reach me via phone -- but my old pnone number now ends up in a conference room. the internal info system contains only the old number. since I had many small but importand tasks to do during the last days many people wanted to call me. 18:21 < daja77> hehehe 18:21 < Aard> the users of the conference room were really pissed off 18:21 < daja77> lol 18:22 * Mike1 . 18:22 < daja77> hi Meshugga 18:22 < daja77> uhm yes 18:22 < daja77> hi mistik1 18:22 < daja77> d'oh 18:22 < daja77> hi Mike1 18:23 < Mike1> hi. 18:23 -!- rtc [~rtc@ACB102CB.ipt.aol.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 18:38 -!- Meshugga [~philip@ns2.ucpag.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:43 -!- Nebu^afk is now known as Nebukadneza 18:51 < owl> rehi 18:56 < Mike1> Sandra. 18:56 < owl> hi Miguel :) 19:02 * Mike1 np Incubus - New Skin 19:02 * owl now listening to: rain outside of the window - nature 19:03 < Mike1> ay mi amor :) 19:03 < owl> O_o 19:04 < Mike1> hrhr 19:10 * Mike1 np Orgy - Gender 19:10 < Nebukadneza> https://sysadminday.safeweb.be/Photos1/pMaxim_Fire_Rack.jpg <--<-- wtf 19:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:28 < rxr> re 19:28 < rxr> cool answer from "André von Raison <avr@ix.de>" 19:28 < daja77> hi rxr 19:28 < daja77> hm? 19:28 < owl> hi rxr 19:29 < rxr> iX @ heise ... 19:29 < Mike1> greetings rxr. 19:29 < rxr> hi Mike1 19:30 < netrunner> good evening ladies and gentlemen. 19:30 < Mike1> netrunner :) 19:30 < daja77> rxr: will they put rock cds in ix? 19:30 -!- jvc [~jvc@co97886-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:30 < Mike1> jvc: Welcome 19:32 < Mike1> Jan is quite nice to see you here. 19:34 < rxr> daja77: nope but at least we will be mentioned in the Article about the LinuxTag 19:34 < rxr> and they consider an Test-Article. 19:34 < daja77> cool 19:35 < rxr> They do not want an acrticle from me - so I think they should only get a really polished 2.0.1 or 2.0.2 so they do not complain about abvious first try bugs ... 19:35 < owl> hi netrunner , jvc 19:36 < netrunner> hm ... who was the one not believing that rock kills my hw? 19:36 < netrunner> now that one disk is back from rma, the next fails ... the one in my build pc 19:36 < Mike1> netrunner: 0_o? 19:37 < owl> netrunner: *lol* congrats 19:38 < netrunner> hm ... that makes 2x64MB RAM, 3 disks, 1CPU ... what next? 19:39 < Mike1> netrunner: motherboard :) 19:39 < owl> Mike1: *g* you was faster 19:39 < owl> or power supply 19:39 < Mike1> owl: great minds think alike 19:39 < owl> cpu cooler - and shooting the motherboard :ppp 19:39 < owl> Mike1: ;) 19:39 < Mike1> then _you_ will be next. 19:40 * netrunner giving himself the bullet 19:40 < netrunner> who'll come to the camp btw? 19:40 < owl> *har* in the night, the pc will awake and go to netrunner's bad and will kill him - cruel and slowly 19:40 < owl> <-- not 19:41 < netrunner> muahaha, ard quiz: "Was erzeugt die Space-Taste auf der Computertastatur?" a)Leerzeichen b)Bindestrich c)Punkt d)@ 19:41 < owl> *g* 19:41 < netrunner> *rofl*: female candidate: "Hmm ... @ sounds like internet, must be that 19:42 < owl> omg 19:42 < owl> was she blonde? 19:42 < netrunner> owl: dunno, didn't watch 19:42 * Mike1 np: korn - blind 19:42 < owl> netrunner: ah. k. 19:43 < jvc> hello, mike1 19:43 < jvc> hello owl 19:43 < Mike1> jvc: nice lag :) 19:43 < jvc> well I had started x-chat but then the phone rang 19:43 < Mike1> jvc: ah that explains :) 19:49 < rxr> netrunner: I'll be there - but maybe onle two days or so ... 19:49 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 19:50 < netrunner> rxr: during the actual event? esden will leave before it starts ... 19:52 < rxr> oh 19:54 < fake> re. 19:54 < owl> wb fake 19:54 < fake> rxr: the text about aspis was amusing, wasn't it? 19:54 < fake> ;) 20:02 < rolla> Mike1: 20:03 < Mike1> rolla: :) 20:03 < Mike1> rolla: query 20:09 < rxr> yes - amusing ... 20:33 < daja77> hmm cups startup even takes ages on athlon 20:35 < fake> rxr: see, and you can't deny that you fitted some of the descriptions, among many others. 20:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508014EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802A13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802170.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:50 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 20:53 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817621.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:57 < netrunner> wtf is boehms-gc? *watchingbuild* 20:58 < netrunner> hm ... yet another small tool, takes 1min to build ;\ 20:58 < rolla> netrunner: just another thing 21:05 < netrunner> *g* security hole in sco/openserver ... that's where the name comes from :) 21:05 * netrunner feels funny today. 21:05 -!- daddel9 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < daddel9> rehi 21:06 < daddel9> anyone with (open)mosix experiance here? 21:07 -!- CyBuX [~CyBuX@conm200-13-246-161.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 21:09 -!- CyBuX [~CyBuX@conm200-13-246-161.epm.net.co] has left #rocklinux ("Terminando cliente") 21:10 -!- daddel9 is now known as Nebukadneza 21:14 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA8FB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:15 < tcr> re all 21:16 < fake> re tcr 21:16 < Nebukadneza> reh 21:17 < Nebukadneza> fake: du hast doch bestimmt schonmal clusters gebau 21:17 < Nebukadneza> t 21:18 < Nebukadneza> oh 21:18 < Nebukadneza> sorry 21:18 < Nebukadneza> wrong language 21:18 < Nebukadneza> here in the chan 21:18 < Nebukadneza> :) 21:18 * daja77 only wrote programs for clusters 21:18 < tcr> _wrote_? 21:19 < tcr> So you say that you don't do it anymore? 21:19 < daja77> yes i currently don't write them .. 21:19 < Nebukadneza> daja77: if im allowed to ask ... was you the one on linuxtage in the ... öhm .... "rollstuhl" @ the rocklinux äähhmmm .... hmm ... "stand" -->--> (should lern better english) 21:19 < daja77> rollstuhl == wheelchair, and yes I am that one 21:19 < tcr> stand is booth 21:19 < Nebukadneza> ah ... kewl 21:20 < Nebukadneza> do you remeber the one with a debian shirt who asked how to burn in linux? 21:20 < fake> ... 21:20 < owl> *rofl* now Nebukadneza will be shot... (because of the word "debian") 21:20 < fake> (das spricht baende) 21:20 < Nebukadneza> lööl 21:20 * Nebukadneza dies in front of the whole channel 21:21 < fake> a guy in a debian shirt asking how to burn cds.. great! ;)) 21:21 < daja77> owl: nah I am always making my fun of them ;-) 21:21 < fake> Nebukadneza: you have courage. 21:21 < Nebukadneza> fake: *arghl* 21:21 < tcr> fake: Oy! He's asked for the l33t version, ie. How to burn a CD with your lighter 21:21 < daja77> I liked that guy who almost got mad as he saw that rock uses xfree 4.3.99.5 while 4.3.0 isn't even in debian broken aka devel 21:22 < Nebukadneza> ive never did it befor ... how can i know that i need these fucking scsi emulation 21:22 < fake> or a microwave 21:22 < fake> Nebukadneza: we all asked that. 21:22 < fake> once... in a long gone time... 21:22 < Nebukadneza> *argh* 21:22 < fake> but with 2.5/2.6 this time is over 21:22 < tcr> Yeah, it's like the question about the bees and flowers 21:22 < fake> the new kernel allows direct, dma-boosted cdburning 21:22 < daja77> tcr: hehe tell me how this works 21:23 < tcr> Linux gets idiot friendly. Juhuu! ;> 21:23 < Nebukadneza> tcr: i wouldnt like if linux would become a newb os 21:23 < tcr> The time has ended where I've been lost. A new era begins! 21:23 < fake> the bees pay 20 bucks to enter the flower, where other female bees are waiting, and then they f*&(* the shit out of the paying bee. 21:23 < daja77> ah now O know, thx 21:23 < daja77> s/O/I 21:24 * tcr equates fake with Dr. Sommer 21:24 < daja77> Nebukadneza: I think I can't remember your face :-( 21:24 < esden> re hi all 21:24 < Nebukadneza> *G* 21:25 < daja77> esden! 21:25 < tcr> Hi esden. Say what should that AOL mean in your last mail? 21:25 < Nebukadneza> daja77: egal :) 21:25 < netrunner> hi esden 21:25 < daja77> yepp 21:25 < owl> hi esden 21:25 < esden> tcr: AOL = "I think the same way" 21:25 < daja77> *rofl* 21:26 < daja77> AOL and think in one sentence ... 21:26 < esden> you know the AOL threads in mailinglists, where 10 people reply quoting the whole mail writing only "I acknowledge that" 21:26 < daja77> sure i know about that 21:27 < esden> daja77: ROFL 21:27 < daja77> but aol means: me too, not I _think_ the same way ;-) 21:29 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E3905D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:29 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA8FB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.") 21:29 < Nebukadneza> hi christ|an 21:29 < christ|an> hi Nebukadneza 21:30 < Nebukadneza> qry? 21:30 < daja77> esden: this time I have to learn ... 21:31 < esden> daja77: my condolences ... 21:32 < daja77> well but tomorrow it is over ... 21:32 < Nebukadneza> christ|an: can i qry? 21:32 < daja77> than I only have to write studienarbeit, and work on rtrock 21:32 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA8FB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:33 < tcr> Urgs. 21:33 < daja77> hm? 21:33 < tcr> I plugged off the cable of my keyboard by accident, and while plugging it in again, I put the power cable off 21:33 < tcr> %) 21:33 < owl> ouch 21:33 < daja77> hehe, sleep man! 21:34 < tcr> No! I'll fly in holiday tomorrow ;P 21:34 < daja77> even better 21:34 < daja77> where? 21:34 < tcr> Malta 21:34 < daja77> have fun 21:34 < owl> enjoy the heat or so... 21:34 < esden> re tcr 21:34 < owl> .oO(toasted hackers are no real hackers...) 21:35 < daja77> owl: hah it was you who was in spain 21:35 < owl> daja77: i'm not a hacker ;p 21:35 < owl> i'm maybe a hackse ;p 21:35 < daja77> you are a hacktress *ggg* 21:35 < netrunner> WTF??? now tar fails? who is guilty? *tearingguns* 21:36 < owl> netrunner: tar fails??? 21:36 < Nebukadneza> owl: löl? 21:36 < esden> daja77: no she is only a "I would like to be a haeckse" 21:36 * netrunner having high bloodpressure ... booting into cs 21:36 < Nebukadneza> but ... why not 21:36 * daja77 notes that netrunner should be kept away from computers 21:36 < owl> Nebukadneza: what's wrong? 21:36 < Nebukadneza> in matrix reloadet trinity is a female hacker ... she hacks with nmap any ssh exploit from 2000 21:36 < esden> netrunner: what is your girlfriend doing that you have high blood pressure? 21:36 < esden> netrunner: send videos/pics ;) 21:36 < netrunner> owl: here, yes. 21:37 < owl> netrunner: ??? 21:37 < netrunner> esden: you'll see some at camp ;) 21:37 < netrunner> /usr/bin/xgettext: Non-ASCII string at tests/genfile.c:165. 21:37 < netrunner> Please specify the source encoding through --from-code. 21:37 < netrunner> mv: cannot stat `tar.po': No such file or directory 21:37 < fake> gettext. disable NLS 21:37 < owl> Nebukadneza: hmmm. /me is female too 21:38 < netrunner> fake? 21:38 < esden> netrunner: expert options "disable NLS" 21:38 < fake> netrunner? 21:38 < Nebukadneza> owl: aha ... good to know --> "<owl> i'm maybe a hackse ;p" 21:38 < daja77> n8 you all 21:38 < owl> now' i'm completly confuses 21:39 < owl> waaaaah... ignore my typos 21:39 < esden> Nebukadneza: she is at least stating that she is female :-> 21:39 < Nebukadneza> i wondert why you sayd "<owl> i'm maybe a hackse ;p" 21:39 < Nebukadneza> esden: yep 21:39 < owl> Nebukadneza: because i don't know if i could call myselfe hackse... maybe trying to be... or so 21:40 < esden> owl: that is why I say that you are a "willing to be haeckse" 21:40 < Nebukadneza> *boffl* now I dont understand one word 21:41 < fake> Nebukadneza: www.haecksen.org 21:41 < owl> esden: whereds did you say it? 21:41 < Nebukadneza> argh 21:41 < Nebukadneza> that picture of the girl in the top of the page 21:41 < Nebukadneza> wich anime ... 21:41 < Nebukadneza> i know it 21:41 < Nebukadneza> hmm 21:41 < Nebukadneza> not lain ... 21:41 < Nebukadneza> arg 21:41 < Nebukadneza> h 21:41 < fake> serial experiments lain 21:42 < Nebukadneza> really lain? 21:42 < fake> it is lain in person. 21:42 < Nebukadneza> "<Nebukadneza> not lain ..." <--<-- i was right 21:42 < fake> yep 21:42 < netrunner> esden,fake: NLS is disabled here. 21:42 < netrunner> maybe I should enable it? 21:42 < Nebukadneza> löl 21:42 < Nebukadneza> i love anime 21:42 < netrunner> arg .. ok 21:42 < Nebukadneza> do you know Scryed? 21:43 < esden> owl: scroll back a bit ... 21:44 < Nebukadneza> owl: member of hacksen? :) 21:44 < owl> ahh... there 21:45 < owl> Nebukadneza: nope 21:45 < Nebukadneza> why not *G* 21:45 < Nebukadneza> i think this is really interesting 21:46 < owl> hmm 21:46 < owl> <-- prefers lonliness 21:46 < Nebukadneza> hm 21:47 < Nebukadneza> if i were female i would join it for sure! 21:47 < owl> not many people please 21:47 < owl> why? 21:47 < owl> might i will join the pds or spd... but not haecksen 21:47 < Nebukadneza> pds or spd 21:47 < Nebukadneza> argh 21:47 < Nebukadneza> better then cdu *G* 21:48 < owl> Nebukadneza: why? are you cdu/csu or fdp-waehler? 21:48 < Nebukadneza> the PBC is the best: "partei bibeltreuer christen" ... i've loughted a whole day 21:48 < Nebukadneza> owl: im 15 ... but if i could choose ... the greens :) 21:48 < owl> PBC - a new drug *har* 21:49 < fake> free the weed! 21:49 * Nebukadneza HATES DRUGS! *arghl* 21:49 < owl> *lol* nah. no weed! 21:49 < fake> then don't elect green... ;) 21:49 < Nebukadneza> all my friends take these shit ... i just dont understand it 21:49 < owl> depends on the drugs. but no weed or hard drugs please 21:49 < Nebukadneza> fake: why? 21:49 < Nebukadneza> do you know "attac"? 21:50 < Nebukadneza> thats an organisation i would join ... 21:50 < owl> "globalisierungsgegner" afaik? 21:50 < fake> i think it is idiotic that it is prohibited and illegalised. the state makes a lot of money with nicotine and alcohol, why not also with weed? the greens think so too. 21:50 < Nebukadneza> owl: jep 21:51 < owl> Nebukadneza: where are you from? /me has a friend who is in attac munich ;) 21:51 < Nebukadneza> fake: i dont think that all green think that way ... 21:51 < Nebukadneza> Karlsruhe ... 21:51 < owl> hm. a bit far away 21:51 < Nebukadneza> where do you life` 21:52 < owl> Nebukadneza: near ingolstadt. 21:52 < Nebukadneza> hm 21:53 < fake> Nebukadneza: that's the official statement, iirc. 21:53 < Nebukadneza> fake: and .... 21:54 < netrunner> https://www.sysadminday.com/ 21:54 < Nebukadneza> netrunner: i know it already 21:54 < fake> netrunner: *sigh*. i wonder when there will be a 'nothing-day'. 21:55 < owl> nihilismn-day 21:55 < fake> day-day ? 21:56 < Nebukadneza> aaahhh 21:56 < Nebukadneza> fsck 21:56 < Nebukadneza> *runns away* 21:56 < Nebukadneza> *ducks* 21:56 < owl> das-of-day-day? 21:56 < Nebukadneza> *climbs on a tree* 21:56 < Nebukadneza> waah 21:56 < Nebukadneza> 0strig-error-day 21:56 < Nebukadneza> day-of-the-first-ms-nub 21:57 * Nebukadneza prays for the fsck 21:57 < owl> *diabolic laugh* *evil grin* Nebukadneza gets infected with brain-disease :p 21:57 < Nebukadneza> owl: what? *schau undschuldig nach oben* 21:58 < owl> Nebukadneza: nothing, nothing. don't mind. /me taking the sword and kills Nebukadneza slowly and painful with it *smile* 21:59 < Nebukadneza> owl: do you play dsa? 21:59 < owl> nah. 21:59 < Nebukadneza> why not? 21:59 < owl> hm. dunno. 21:59 < Nebukadneza> dunno???? 22:00 < owl> dunno = don't know 22:01 < esden> Nebukadneza: you have to learn the irc/#rocklinux slang ;) 22:01 < esden> hehe ... we need #rocklinux jargon file *G* 22:01 < Nebukadneza> owl: axo 22:01 < Nebukadneza> esden: jep ... 22:02 < Nebukadneza> at least 4 servers: one with db, one takes the apache, one makes the firewall and one the gateway ... so we take the file to the user 22:02 < rolla> Nebukadneza: you just need english slang file ;) 22:02 < esden> rolla: ack 22:02 < Nebukadneza> rolla: and ... 22:03 < rolla> Nebukadneza: there is more english slang here than german slang 22:04 < Nebukadneza> rolla: and ... 22:04 < rolla> nevermind 22:09 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2889.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:10 * rolla head hurts 22:10 * -> esden takes a baseball bat and hits rolla 22:10 < esden> rolla: better? 22:10 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9E3905D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:11 < rolla> nope 22:11 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B2713.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:12 * fake takes a head and hits the baseall bat. 22:12 < fake> rolla: better? 22:12 < Nebukadneza> löl 22:13 < Nebukadneza> fake: your a real freak! 22:13 * Nebukadneza changed fake's nick to freak 22:13 < fake> there already is a real 'Freak' here. 22:13 < fake> one of those debian evangelists, that lurk into 'our' channel 22:13 < fake> ;) 22:13 * Nebukadneza lurks a bit around 22:14 < owl> .oO(and please don't compare someone to Freak - because it's offending $someone ...) 22:14 < rolla> owl: relax 22:14 < fake> in case of a comparsion to me, it's an offense for him ;) 22:14 < owl> rolla: why? 22:14 < owl> fake: nah. why should it? 22:14 < rolla> owl: he could not have done that much harm to you 22:15 * Nebukadneza changes owl's nickname to Freakse 22:15 < owl> he could... 22:15 < fake> he killed her notebook, and dug it up in the desert. ? 22:15 * owl kicks Nebukadneza with army boots (attention - stahlkappen inside)! 22:15 < fake> metal plates? 22:15 < owl> jup. thx 22:16 < fake> no idea, just guessing. 22:16 * Nebukadneza gets kicked and take a LAW (raketenwerfer) to bomb the metal plates 22:16 < fake> stop it, kids. 22:16 * Nebukadneza throws the law away 22:16 < fake> some people try to concentrate here, and you are producing a hell lot of noise. 22:16 * Nebukadneza takes a SGI Atlix3000 from his back and throws it to fake's head 22:17 < owl> ands? 22:17 < owl> -s 22:17 < fake> *catschesit* thanks! 22:17 < fake> -s 22:17 < fake> *lol* 22:17 < Nebukadneza> *arghl* 22:17 < Nebukadneza> its weight is 930kg ... 22:17 < owl> omg 22:17 < rxr> SMP: around ? 22:18 < fake> rxr: asleep since afternoon 22:18 < fake> Nebukadneza: and if you can throw it, i can catch it. 22:18 < Nebukadneza> jep 22:18 < Nebukadneza> fake: do you know the quantentheorie? 22:18 < Nebukadneza> bzw. quantenmechanik? 22:18 < fake> quantum theory 22:19 < Nebukadneza> fake: sry ... 22:19 < Nebukadneza> (so ein perfekt englisch könner :() 22:19 < fake> 'the' quantum theory is, that the smallest element are quantums? 22:19 < Nebukadneza> nope 22:19 < fake> sure... 22:19 < Nebukadneza> how evrything can act in these dimensions 22:20 < Nebukadneza> go through walls, etc. 22:20 < fake> you mean the problem you have, when you leave someone else's cat (i.e. schroedingers) in a box for a long time, and let her out very angry afterwards? 22:20 < Nebukadneza> *boffl* 22:21 < owl> boffl? 22:21 < Nebukadneza> owl: nothing ... forget 22:21 < owl> hm 22:22 < Nebukadneza> the only thing wich is more interesting then quantum theory are black holes! 22:23 < esden> Nebukadneza: are you studying theoretical astronomy or physics? 22:23 < Nebukadneza> nope 22:23 < Nebukadneza> im still in realschule 22:23 < owl> esden: with 15 years? *couth* 22:23 < owl> s/couth/cough 22:23 < rolla> realschule? 22:24 < Nebukadneza> rolla: something like ... what is realschule like ... college? 22:25 < fake> rolla: GCSE? 22:25 < Nebukadneza> jep 22:25 < fake> the festival text-to-speech system is a mess... 22:26 < rolla> ach 22:26 < fake> they have stolen configure from some other package and edited it... *cries* 22:26 < esden> owl: who knows 22:27 < esden> owl: there are geniouses all over the world 22:27 < owl> hmmmm. 22:27 < Nebukadneza> esden: no ... i just read stephen hawkings universum in der nusschale 22:29 < fake> Nebukadneza: did you read the first part? 22:29 < fake> Nebukadneza: Eine kleine Geschichte unserer Zeit? 22:29 < fake> (a small story about our time) 22:30 < fake> (not sure about the original english title, though) 22:31 < Nebukadneza> fake: jep 22:32 -!- jvc [~jvc@co97886-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:32 < fake> Nebukadneza: i think that is much more interesting... 22:34 < esden> fake: The engilsh title is "A Brief History of Time" 22:35 < Nebukadneza> but then you should read Hawkings other boot "Einsteins dream" ... 22:36 < tcr> Hah, I just got my GCSE too! 22:37 < netrunner> why are imlib, pango and gnome-startup-notification built before xfree86? have I missed something? 22:38 < fake> esden: thanks 22:38 < esden> fake: de nada 22:41 < rolla> fake: that is a good book 22:41 < Nebukadneza> esden: hm? 22:42 < Nebukadneza> have to go 22:42 < Nebukadneza> cya 22:42 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:45 < owl> <-- sleeping 22:45 < owl> gn8 22:45 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:45 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:49 < fake> rolla: yes, i enjoyed it... 22:54 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit ("Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5") 22:55 < netrunner> wonderful, now the hdd hangs again :/ 23:10 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:10 < fake> yeah! it speaks! 23:11 < fake> it is talking to me! oh, how sweet! 23:11 < A-Tui> hi 23:11 < fake> hi A-Tui 23:12 < mistik1> hmmm, this is a little strange 23:13 < mistik1> why should my target build get done with glibc/gcc2/gcc3 and tons of others in one night yet the kernel has been taking two days 23:13 * mistik1 wonders if something is stuck 23:14 < mistik1> unless of course the linux24 package is doing more than just building the kernel and packaging it 23:16 -!- rtc [~rtc@dialin-145-254-077-247.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:16 < rxr> mistik1: the linux kernel package is doing just that ... 23:16 < rxr> what does tail -f build/$configid/root/var/adm/logs/$stage-linux24.out (or what package you mean) does output ? 23:19 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:19 < mistik1> that is one heck of a long kernel build even for a 333 PII 23:19 < Nebukadneza> re 23:19 < mistik1> looks like its doing make muldules now however 23:19 < mistik1> hey Nebukadneza 23:19 < rxr> mistik1: could you poast this tail .... cmd in a query 23:21 < Nebukadneza> hey &mistik1 23:23 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 23:23 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 23:23 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:26 < Nebukadneza> any mosixer here? 23:27 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:34 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^mosix 23:37 < Nebu^mosix> https://students.washington.edu/wfrenchu/Images/ms_final.gif 23:56 -!- Nebu^mosix is now known as Nebu^anime 23:58 < rtc> *lol* @ https://students.washington.edu/wfrenchu/Images/ms_final.gif 23:58 < esden> re hi all ... --- Log closed Fri Jul 25 00:00:08 2003