--- Log opened Fri Jul 25 00:00:08 2003
--- Day changed Fri Jul 25 2003
00:02 < esden> rxr: will you process the patches from the mailinglist today?
00:07 < esden> Nebu^anime: tztztz ... that is a hard one ...
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00:20 < Nebu^anime> esden: whats wrong with anime?
00:20 -!- Nebu^anime is now known as Nebukadneza
00:20 < rxr> esden: yes - today in the meaning of "after sleep" but before the next hour-counter overrun ...
00:20 < rxr> ROCK Handbook 0.0.4 announced
00:21 < rxr> incl. .html files this time ...
00:21 < Nebukadneza> noone see the difference between anime and hentai
00:21 < Nebukadneza> anime==normale filme
00:21 < Nebukadneza> hentai==pervers
00:21 < esden> Nebukadneza: not with anime .. with the image ...
00:21 < Nebukadneza> ah
00:21 < Nebukadneza> :)
00:21 < esden> Nebukadneza: I know the difference .. 
00:21 < Nebukadneza> good
00:22 < Nebukadneza> :)
00:22 < Nebukadneza> most people think the other way
00:22 < esden> hehe ... I get always nice supply of anime from blindcoder 
00:22 < esden> Nebukadneza: what is your favorite anime?
00:22 < Nebukadneza> hmm
00:22 < Nebukadneza> i think ... Grave of the Fireflies
00:23 < esden> ohh ... I do not know this one ... 
00:23 < Nebukadneza> or the end of nge
00:23 < esden> I still can not decide between Serial Experiments Lain ... and FLCL
00:23 < Nebukadneza> FLCL?
00:23 < esden> yes ... Furikuriiiii ;)
00:24 < esden> this anime is breindead ... but a lot of fun 
00:24 < fake> Furi Kuri Furi Kura...
00:24 < esden> fake: ahh ... you still alive?
00:24 < Nebukadneza> grave of the fireflies is the story of a boy in a imaginary war between japan and usa (not wwII) ... the boy and his little sister try to survive in the war .. their mother get killed, etc.
00:24 < esden> fake: why have you left here so early?
00:24 < Nebukadneza> at the end the little sister dies
00:24 < Nebukadneza> its really hard ...
00:24 < fake> oh, yes, i'm sorry.
00:25 < Nebukadneza> i've whined evrytime i watched it
00:25 < esden> fake: and you even have not said goodby :-(
00:25 < Nebukadneza> do you know sent to chihirio no kamikakushi?
00:26 < rxr> n8
00:26 < fake> esden: hm, not in the mood for blindcoder-social-interaction-shock-program
00:26 < Nebukadneza> n8 rxr
00:26 < esden> fake: yes ... blindcoder .. *sigh*
00:26 < esden> n8 rxr 
00:26 < esden> fake: I still ask myself why he overreacted ...
00:27 < fake> esden: and when i sat down at the round table downstairs, i noticed that rolf smelled again. so i left.
00:27 < esden> fake: hehe ... ok ... now I understand why you left
00:28 < fake> i didn't leave because of the smell, but it made me keep asking again and again: why are you here, idiot? it was so comfy at home! narf...
00:28 < esden> Nebukadneza: sounds interesting ... I have to organize it from somewhere
00:28 < fake> so i drove home, and got productive again.
00:28 < Nebukadneza> esden: donkey?
00:29 < Nebukadneza> :)
00:29 < esden> fake: yes ... I would have to drive to munich to get in a comfy and productive environment
00:29 * fake watched the movie chihiro, it's great... i was in the cinema with my mommie ;)
00:29 < fake> esden: but it was fun geek-power-talking to you again
00:29 < fake> s,to,with, ;)
00:29 < esden> fake: is it worth paying for? I mean the film?
00:30 < fake> esden: absolutely
00:30 < esden> fake: absolutly .. I had much fun too
00:30 < tcr> So what's the topic of a geek power talking?
00:31 * tcr is listening to Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
00:31 < esden> fake: we should continue that some time ;) without negative external influences ;)
00:31 < fake> the characters are amazing, the interpretion of how good and evil aren't like black and white, but depending on the point of view you have... it's really 'tiefgreifend'
00:31 < tcr> profound, fake, profound
00:31 < esden> fake: you mean terrifying ...
00:32 < fake> profound... okay.
00:32 < fake> the characters are amazing, the interpretion of how good and evil aren't like black and white, but depending on the point of view you have... it's really profound.
00:32 < esden> ohh .... leo org ist dead
00:32 < tcr> Don't you know the german foreign word "abprofundieren"? ;)
00:33 < fake> tcr: no?
00:33 * fake is dumb, y'know
00:33 < tcr> So now you have something to show off ;)
00:33 < tcr> abprofundieren = vertiefen
00:33 < esden> fake: you are saying it every time you have a possibility for that ... so I think everyone knows that by now *EG*
00:34 < tcr> But not phiscally deepen
00:34 < tcr> phy even
00:34 < fake> tcr: in exchange for good word, fake give you what 'geek power talking' is mean:
00:35 < fake> ugh
00:35 < fake> (cave paintings)
00:35 < fake> ugh.
00:35 < fake> see?
00:35 < tcr> Ehm. What am I supposed to see?!
00:36 < Nebukadneza> tcr: huh?
00:36 < tcr> Ugh. Ugh. Me fake. Me feel well. Ugh. Me hungry, make food! Ugh, Ugh!
00:36 < esden> urgl
00:37 < tcr> Nebukadneza: Why the ctcp version?
00:37 < Nebukadneza> just for fun
00:37 < fake> (on the cavepainting you see two possibly humnaoid creatures, with long, faty hair, which apparently haven't been washed since decades. both sit in front of a mobile digital typesetter, which are predecessors of today's notebooks)
00:38 < tcr> Nebukadneza: I'm using xchat, if that's of particular interest for you :)
00:38 < fake> (the signs on the heads of these creatures show, they have a compatible geekness-ranking in their tribe)
00:39 < Nebukadneza> :)
00:39 < Nebukadneza> *version wants*
00:39 < Nebukadneza> *time wants*
00:39 < fake> when this, then geek power talk! ugh!
00:39 < Nebukadneza> -tcr- TIME Fri Jul 25 00:34:47 <--<-- jiipii
00:39 < tcr> Hm, my clock seems to be fscked up
00:40 < fake> .oO( young earthling lost interest in story. young people evil! )
00:40 < tcr> fake: So, what do you wanna tell me with that?
00:40 < fake> tcr: when two geeks meet, geek power talk is going to happen <dot>
00:41 < fake> oh, stop it
00:41 < Nebukadneza> sry
00:41 < tcr> Yea, stop it. It's not very kind, really not.
00:41 < Nebukadneza> sorry
00:41 < fake> and it's the first time i see it in this chan ;)
00:42 < fake> better not be a trendsetter.
00:42 < Nebukadneza> im bored of compiling kernels the whole da ... sorrry
00:42 < esden> fake: it happened already two or three times to me here in the channel
00:42 < esden> but these people have left this channel very quickly ;>
00:43 < fake> esden: so you won, i'm out.
00:43 < fake> esden: 3v1l kick0r
00:43 < tcr> fake: Hmm, my geeky "talk-drüse" (wow, I'm that great in word punning, I scare myself. Wohoo!) is everything else than well-developed.
00:44 < tcr> I'm not able to talk about technical things in rl
00:44 < esden> fake: you mean : 3v1l kix0r (or am I wrong?)
00:44 < fake> tcr: i'm pretty sure, when someone find's the right topic, you're in
00:44 < fake> esden: however.
00:44 < esden> fake: :P
00:44 < fake> esden: what do i know? i'm dumb. leave me alone. ;)
00:44 < Nebukadneza> esden: no ... he means 3\/!|_   |<!><0|2
00:45 < tcr> fake: No way to find it out ;) Will be in malta during c3camp
00:45 < fake> tcr: come to vienna, then
00:45 < esden> oh oh ... a real script kiddy master ... Nebukadneza you are scaring me ;)
00:45 < fake> yeah, nepu has a 'ruf zu verlieren'
00:45 < tcr> Nebukadneza: There's only very little left, and you're inreversebly outed!
00:46 < Nebukadneza> esden: i played cs a long time ago
00:46 < tcr> fake: Date?
00:46 < Nebukadneza> (but my evolution pipes thorugh spamassassin ... SO!)
00:47 < tcr> Vienna is damn far away for someone whose parents are still responsible for! ;)
00:47 < fake> tcr: the week after c3camp, starting tue or wed, iirc
00:47 < Nebukadneza> *geht in eine ecke und schmollt*
00:47 < fake> tcr < 18 < fake
00:47 < fake> ?
00:47 < Nebukadneza> hm
00:47 < Nebukadneza> über was habt ihrs eigentlich grad?
00:48 < fake> export LANG=de_DE
00:48 < fake> export LANG=en_US
00:48 < Nebukadneza> @me?
00:48 * -> esden will drill a hole in the table here in some moments to have good airflow around the processor in his laptop >_<
00:48 < Nebukadneza> ./esden is a psycho :)
00:48 < fake> damn. forget the first export... line.
00:48 < Nebukadneza> fake: why?
00:49 < Nebukadneza> ö ä ü  <--- are they right?
00:49 < fake> *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH*!
00:49 < fake> THAT IS TOO MUCH!
00:49 < fake> i can't stand it!
00:49 < fake> i'm not strong enough!
00:49 < fake> noo!
00:49 < Nebukadneza> hm?
00:49 < fake> take them away!
00:49 < fake> make them go!
00:49 * -> esden is thinking about oping himself :>
00:49 < fake> aaaaaaarghl.......
00:49 < Nebukadneza> ?thgir yeht era ---> ü ä ö
00:50 < tcr> Nebukadneza: fake sieht gespenster ;)
00:50 < fake> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEK
00:50 < fake> umlauts!
00:50 < fake> umlauts on my screen!
00:50 < Nebukadneza> fake: there backwards ... ive taken them away :)
00:50 < Nebukadneza> zitat fake: "<fake> umlauts! <fake> umlauts on my screen!" zitat ende
00:50 < esden> ROFL ... perhups we really need a filter in this channel here ... that is only allowing characters that are lower 128
00:51 < Nebukadneza> hm?
00:51 < fake> (i thought my terminal wasn't "capable" of umlauts?!?)
00:51 < Nebukadneza> ??? <--<-- is das kk?
00:51 < esden> Nebukadneza: this channel is english only ... and umlaut free!!!!
00:51 < esden> fake: I thought the same of my xterm
00:51 < Nebukadneza> esden: why? *arghgrrrbrrmuhuhahahaha*
00:51 < fake> o_O
00:51 < fake> he seems to have the pest
00:52 < fake> we need to get rid of him
00:52 < Nebukadneza> hm
00:52 * Nebukadneza runns away
00:52 < esden> fake: should I *EG*
00:52 < fake> cool. he gets rid of him himself ;)
00:52 < tcr> Nah, don't. It'd be childish
00:52 < fake> of course not.
00:52 * -> esden is in /kick mood *jumparound*
00:52 < esden> tcr: I know ... otherwise I would have done it long time ago ;)
00:53 < fake> esden: then kick me, i'm the evil, dumb one
00:53 * -> esden *hug* ... no you are not *GG*
00:53 * Nebukadneza runns across the usa
00:53 < fake> *sigh*
00:53 < esden> fake: *hug* no you are not *GG*
00:53 * Nebukadneza across the atlantic ocean
00:53 < esden> I think fake will kill me now .. *hide*
00:53 < fake> first filming, then umlauts, and now even hugging... this is not my day.
00:54 < Nebukadneza> *little jump on the bahamas*
00:54 < Nebukadneza> *through asia*
00:54 < esden> fake: you are such a poor guy 
00:54 * Nebukadneza runns into europ
00:54 < Nebukadneza> e
00:54 * Nebukadneza IS RE!!!
00:54 < esden> Nebukadneza: erm ... what is the name of it ... and where is it affordable?
00:54 < fake> Nebukadneza: not bad. you infected the world in 4 lines.
00:55 < tcr> fake: tcr < 18 < fake <-- Age or weight? ;)
00:55 < Nebukadneza> fake: kewl, eh?
00:55 < Nebukadneza> esden: the name is "ArGh"
00:55 < fake> tcr: penis size, age of course!
00:56 < tcr> fake: Rhetorical question, dude!
00:56 * Nebukadneza dies again under a S/390
00:56 < tcr> You ain't fat, are you?
00:56 < esden> weasel@apollo:~$ ./schwanz.sh
00:56 * Nebukadneza IS fat
00:56 < esden> 25.3cm
00:56 < esden> weasel@apollo:~$ 
00:56 < fake> tcr: i tend to answer rethorical questions to see if people are aware that they didn't expect an answer. you pased ;)
00:56 < esden> hehe I am over 18 ;)
00:56 < Nebukadneza> esden: w0w ... a real coder!
00:57 < Nebukadneza> i have to go
00:57 < fake> gn8 Nebukadneza
00:57 * Nebukadneza sees the big door with the printing "exit", runs torwards it and crashes through it
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00:58 < fake> i'd like to be 15 once again...
00:58 < esden> http://www.esden.net/schwanz.sh
00:58 < tcr> fake: Heh.
00:58 < esden> fake: I would prefere to be 19 again
00:59 < fake> tcr: why do you ask if i'm fat? i think that depends... compared to an ant i am gigantic...
00:59 < esden> that was the best time of my life *sigh*
00:59 < tcr> fake: Just for fun, am currently leeching some stuff for the journy tomorrow... and have absolutely nothing to do
01:00 < fake> tcr: i have a BMI of 18, so no, i don't think i am fat, but i don't think i am ... schlank... either
01:02 < tcr> Whatever
01:02 < tcr> Actually, turning out, I'm not really interested in your weight ;)
01:02 < tcr> just turning out
01:03 < fake> hm.
01:05 < fake> oh my god...
01:05 < fake> these brain-amputated idiots
01:06 * tcr is listening to Falconer - Stand In Veneration
01:06 < fake> not only did they copy over any configure script and adjusted it's expanded shell code, they also compile the path where it is compiled into the binaries, so you are forced to keep them where you compiled them
01:07 < fake> i'd need another week off to fix that mess....
01:08 < esden> fake: what are you fixing?
01:08 < fake> festival
01:08 < esden> fake: do nat say anything about hardcoded paths ... I had a really near contact level 10 or so ... with gcc >_<
01:09 < esden> you really do not want to know how many paths are hardcoded there *argl*
01:09 < esden> festival? ... /me opening freshmeat
01:09 < fake> text-to-speech system
01:10 * tcr is listening to Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark
01:10 < mistik1> festival is groovy
01:10 < esden> fake: ahh ... ok now I have it ...
01:10 < esden> fake: is it working? is it usable? beside the problems you stated already?
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01:11 < tcr> Iron maiden are awesomely genial!
01:11 < mistik1> I had once setup festival to speak IRC so if someone prefixed my handle it would say the msg
01:11 < esden> paktofonika is also awersamely genial!
01:11 < mistik1> those guys still make music?
01:11 < fake> esden: yeah, it compiles, and works.
01:11 < mistik1> or is this old stuff
01:12 < fake> esden: the quality is not as good as mbrola, though, and there are no female voices.
01:12 < esden> *weep* no femail voices ...
01:12 < mistik1> fake: what are you doing with festival?
01:13 < fake> mistik1: i almost finished the speech output module for rock today ;)
01:13 < mistik1> you making your computer say "welcome back babe" in an aluring voice when you login ;)
01:13 < esden> fake: weee
01:13 < esden> nice
01:13 < mistik1> wow
01:13 < fake> it's cool, it already works very nice, highly configurable and stuff
01:13 < mistik1> excellent
01:14 < fake> the only problem is that i'll have to provide a festival package for rock, otherwise it's meaningless.
01:14 < tcr> mistik1: fear of the dark is from 1992, the most recent release was in 00 IIRC
01:14 < fake> and the beast sure is hard to package...
01:14 < mistik1> tcr: I've not listened to any form of Metal for over a decade
01:15 < fake> i think i'll just extract it all, build it, and then tar it up again, and use that.
01:15 < tcr> mistik1: You haven't missed much, really! ;) 80's rule anyway
01:15 < fake> i also support the use of mbrola, but that only works for german output right now
01:16 < mistik1> are you including some sample usage for festival or just a simple package?
01:16 < mistik1> do you have a url for mbrola as i'm not familiar with that package
01:16 < tcr> mistik1: If you're interested, I could give you my current favorite song.
01:16 < fake> mistik1: i only need a working 'festival' executable
01:17 < mistik1> fake: ok
01:17 < fake> mistik1: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola.html
01:17 < mistik1> tcr: nah, it alright
01:17 < fake> mbrola is binary-only, though
01:17 < esden> fake: it sounds like my packaging of netcat ... I have 10 or so patches for netcat to make it running and packagable ... >_<
01:18 < tcr> esden: You have pushed 'em mainstream?
01:19 < fake> upstream
01:19 < esden> the time I have packaged it there it was not maintained
01:19 < esden> now there is gnu-netcat
01:19 < esden> it is based on the old one ... and maintained now ... 
01:19 < tcr> fake: right
01:19 < esden> I have not yet tested it ... and not checked how it is looking like
01:20 < esden> but I will do it in some moments ... but first I go to smoke one
01:20 < fake> na, i will package the beast tomorrow. now i need sleep. see you later...
01:20 < mistik1> g`night fake
01:21 < esden> n8 fake 
01:21 < fake> thanks ;) sleep well, too.
01:21 < tcr> gn8
01:21 < fake> tcr: nice trip to you!
01:21 < tcr> Just hope I wont be hijacked ;)
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01:36 < esden> ok ... I took a look in gnu-netcat packet ... it seems to be fully usable ... I updated my package now ...
01:37 < esden> now compiling ... for testing
01:38 < mistik1> nc is a *monster* tool if used correctly
01:38 < esden> mistik1: full ack .. the gnu one is also capable of tunneling
01:38 < mistik1> I've even used that sucker for remote backup
01:38 < mistik1> w00t
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01:39 < esden> mistik1: I am still not sure if I want to use nc or socket for my new advanced pluggable build output system ;)
01:39 < esden> but I think I will stay at nc
01:40 < mistik1> hehe
01:40 * mistik1 waits to see this system ;)
01:41 < esden> I want to make it easier to create output modules that use other devices then terminal
01:41 < esden> fake will be probably happy about it too
01:41 < esden> because getting build information out of the chroot is pretty difficult when you use a different device then terminal
01:42 < mistik1> ahhhh
01:42 < mistik1> that makes sense
01:42 < esden> that is why I want to use network
01:43 < esden> that will be usable for my lcd output plugin ... for the irssi output plugin of blindcoder ... and the speach output module of fake
01:43 < mistik1> for as long and the build machine has network access you could litterally pipe the output anywhere in the world
01:43 < esden> mistik1: full ack
01:44 < esden> mistik1: I have created #rocklinux-status channel to make the build information avalable to anyone interested
01:44 < mistik1> esden: rock is really going to take me a little while to wrap my mind around but I look forward to doing so
01:45 < esden> but only person that is currently sending his build information there is blindcoder ... because he is the only one who is able to send there ... and who is ill enough to do such thing ;)
01:46 < mistik1> the linux as usual stuff is no problem however as I was telling SMP last night I need to get a handle on the rock specific tools and such
01:46 < esden> but currently he has no build running
01:46 < esden> mistik1: rock has more tools and magic then you can expect ... I am learning new stuff every day ... and I am in this project since 2000 ... 
01:47 < mistik1> heh
01:47 < mistik1> I can understand that
01:47 < esden> and that is only in these 1.9 MB tarball ... amazing
01:48 < mistik1> truly
01:48 < mistik1> trust me I really loving what i'm seeing so far
01:49 < mistik1> I feel elated the I read
01:49 < esden> mistik1: and there is coming more and more every day
01:49 < mistik1> my only regret is that I did not become aware of this project sooner
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01:50 < esden> mistik1: I can understand that
01:52 < mistik1> *sigh* I need to build the faster machine for this though
01:53 < mistik1> I wanted to try rock so badly I just fired up the closest thing at hand(which was madness)
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01:53 < mistik1> time to hunt for some cash in the budget for a new case (the wife should love this) haha
01:54 < mistik1> more computers she'll say
01:54 < esden> argh .. perl seems to be broken on my laptop >_<
01:54 < mistik1> CPAN is your friend
01:55 < esden> mistik1: hehe ... ok ... the ROCK virus infected you badly ;-)
01:55 < mistik1> you could say that ;)
01:55 < esden> mistik1: it has bad influence on people ... it is bringing people to install rock on 17 machines in a computer club to build a target ;)
01:56 < mistik1> haha
01:56 < esden> but it was fun ... I hope that the generic build without stage 9 will be finished tomorrow morning ...
01:57 < esden> we started it 4 hours ago ;)
01:57 < mistik1> I've been thinking lately that maybe I should cluster my machines
01:57 < esden> I mean it should be finished at 17 today
01:57 < mistik1> I have so many machines all doing specific tasks
01:58 < mistik1> not one of my boxes is 1ghz
01:58 < esden> on a P4 2GHz needs a week to make a generic build with stage 9 ...
01:58 < mistik1> I do have a ready to run 1ghz athlon in the part drawer that I *know* will go to ROCK now
01:58 < mistik1> wow
01:59 < mistik1> this is the 3rd day for my minimal on a PII 333
01:59 < mistik1> I wonder when that will be done
01:59 < mistik1> hmmm
02:00 < mistik1> How you ever done it on a cluster?
02:00 < mistik1> if so what type and is it worth it vs a faster processor box or SMP box?
02:01 < esden> hmm ... the cluster is currently still in stage 1 ...
02:01 < esden> and building 2 packets in parallel >_<
02:01 < esden> all other machines are waiting for them ... *sigh*
02:01 < mistik1> hmm
02:01 < mistik1> so mot much in the way of migration is happening then
02:02 < esden> no ... but in stage 2 it should be better
02:02 < esden> or at least in stage 5
02:03 < esden> ahh ... now 4 packets compiling in parallel
02:03 < mistik1> that's cool
02:03 < mistik1> I wonder if I could get my bud to do a few builds for me at work
02:03 < mistik1> he could prolly get one done in a few hours
02:04 < mistik1> blasted Uber Cluster at USC is his playground
02:04 < mistik1> the is the University of Southern California
02:06 < esden> mistik1: in our tests it showed up that more then 8 machines do not bring much additional speed :(
02:06 < esden> 8 very fast machines is the best you can have for rock builds
02:06 < mistik1> interesting
02:07 < mistik1> so I guess the 500 new nodes just added would not gain much for rock
02:08 < esden> nope ... 
02:08 < esden> I am running Create-ParaSim now ... I will tell you how many packets at most can be built in parallel
02:09 < mistik1> ok
02:10 < esden> ok ... now 8 packets building in parallel
02:10 < esden> still stage 1
02:10 < mistik1> rockin
02:11 < esden> 10 packets in parallel
02:11 < mistik1> bbiab family time ;)
02:14 < esden> bbiab??
02:14 < esden> ok ... have fun
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02:22 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
02:22 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
02:23 * tfing points /chanserv help topic to esden
02:24 < esden> tfing: sight ... ok ... I know ... /me dumb ;-)
02:25 < tfing> :)
02:27 < esden> tfing: there is no such command in chanserv ...
02:27 < esden> as it seems I have done it the right way after all ;)
02:27 < esden> I have found only TLOCK .... and that is on, as it should be
02:28 < tfing> oups, sorry
02:28 < tfing> freenode services seem to miss some features
02:28 < esden> tfing: you noticed that too??? *lough*
02:28 < tfing> :)
02:29 < tfing> maybe /chanserv set topic
02:29 < esden> tfing: freenode sux badly ... ... I would really like to switch the network ... but I obviously am not annoyed enough to make the switch
02:29 < esden> tfing: nope sorry
02:29 < tfing>  [OPN] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- An access level of [25] is required for [SET] on #rocklinux
02:29 < tfing> /chanserv set #rocklinux topic foo
02:30 < esden> humm .. strange
02:30 < tfing> well, freenode is not so bad of a place as for the people on it
02:31 < esden> tfing: that is an alias to topiclock command
02:31 < tfing> hmmm
02:31 < esden> argh ... I mean topiclock ...
02:31 < tfing> in the help on set there is :
02:31 < tfing>  TOPICLOCK   Topic can only be changed with SET TOPIC
02:32 < esden> humm ...
02:32 < tfing> did they forget to implement the SET TOPIC command ?! *shrugs*
02:32 < tfing> *chuckles*
02:32 < esden> [02:25] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Syntax: SET <channel> TOPICLOCK {ON|OFF}
02:32 < esden> [02:25] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 
02:32 < esden> [02:25] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- If TOPICLOCK is ON, ChanServ will not allow anyone
02:32 < esden> [02:25] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- without an access level of TOPIC or higher to
02:32 < esden> [02:25] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- change the topic on <channel>.
02:33 < esden> [02:33] <esden> help set topic
02:33 < esden> [02:33] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- No help available on set topic
02:34 < tfing> stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupiiiiiiiiiiiiid
02:34 < esden> tfing: rofl ... you are right my friend .. yes
02:35 < tfing> :)
02:35 < esden> ahh .. the cluster is in stage 2 now ... after 4 hours ...
02:35 < tfing> nice
02:35 < tfing> generic target ?
02:36 < esden> yes generic
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02:36 < esden> it is a build for CCCamp
02:36 < esden> for our showoff CCCcamp rocklinux DVD ;)
02:37 < tfing> hehe
03:04 < esden> ooooohhhh ... gcc2 is built alone ... gcc3 could be built parallel to that ... but no it is not ...
03:04 < esden> WHY!
03:04 < esden> that sux
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04:36 < SMP> morning!
04:40 < esden> good night SMP ;)
04:40 < esden> I go to bed 
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05:08 * mnemoc back, and still in shock with the new site :(
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06:47 < holyolli> moin
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07:19 < blindcoder> moin
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07:37 < [anders]> narf
07:38 < blindcoder> moin [anders]
07:38 < blindcoder> brb, just fetching breakfast
07:39 < [anders]> ich auch
07:39 < [anders]> lo blindcoder
07:39 * [anders] pokes Mike1 with a stick..
07:42 < [anders]> yo Mike1, talk only works if the other person is still connected to the box.. ;-)
07:43 < [anders]> the site I supply services at lost external network connection yersterday around 3pm
07:43 < [anders]> it came back around 9pm
07:47 < [anders]> anyways... gotta get ready for the day..
07:47 < [anders]> back later I hope. :)
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07:50 * blindcoder back
08:09 < netrunner> moin
08:16 < blindcoder> moin netrunner
08:17 < netrunner> hi blindcoder
08:20 < owl> moin
08:21 < netrunner> could it be that this xfree86-cvs option does not work?
08:22 < blindcoder> moin owly
08:23 < blindcoder> netrunner: yes, AFAIK the cvs is older than the current XFree85 version
08:24 < netrunner> blindcoder: it get's not even scheduled to build :)
08:24 < blindcoder> hmm
08:25 < blindcoder> I have a whole diferent problem here
08:26 < blindcoder> I have a cluster-build running but for 10 minutes 5-00-dirtree is just doing a find
08:29 < blindcoder> ah, now it started
08:30 < owl> hi blindcoder
08:32 < netrunner> blindcoder: you have a real cluster?
08:34 < blindcoder> netrunner: 16 nodes, one master
08:34 < blindcoder> 17 machines
08:36 < owl> omg!
08:38 < blindcoder> owl: ???
08:38 < owl> 17 machines...
08:39 < blindcoder> yes? what about it?
08:40 < owl> many...
08:40 < blindcoder> the whole bingo e.V. Schulungsraum ^^
08:40 < owl> ah so *g*
08:46 < owl> hehehehehe. we get a "masskottchen" at work... our new manager will bring her dog with her ;)
08:47 < blindcoder> nice ^^
08:47 < blindcoder> A few days ago a saw a Deutscher Schaeferhund puppy ^^
08:47 < blindcoder> they're so cute ^^
08:47 < owl> ack. or husky...
08:54 < owl> *yawn* another installation-day
08:55 < blindcoder> haven't seen husky puppies yet..
08:55 < owl> hmm. husky in general i mean...
08:56 < blindcoder> well, having a husky in this climate is torture for the dog
08:56 < owl> yes. sure. but anyways husky are cute
08:57 < blindcoder> Well, I couldn't have one here... besides, you need to take the dog out for a wolk every(!) day
08:58 < owl> yeah
09:07 < owl> gaaaaaaaaar! i'm hating my company...
09:10 < blindcoder> tell me something new
09:11 < owl> the world is flat
09:11 < blindcoder> hmm
09:12 < owl> don't believe me?
09:13 < blindcoder> it's hard to believe, but I also have no proof that it is spherical
09:14 < owl> i c.
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09:16 < dreamind> Hi
09:17 < blindcoder> moin dreamind
09:17 < dreamind> hi blindcoder
09:17 < n00kie> Hi blindy :)
09:17 < n00kie> lo dreamind
09:17 < dreamind> hi n00kie
09:19 < owl> hmm... i'm going to boot in the new minmal_xfree system for testing now... bbl
09:19 < n00kie> good luck, owl
09:19 < owl> thx
09:19 < n00kie> :)
09:19 < owl> in hte chroot it looked quite ok
09:19 < dreamind> hi owl
09:20 < owl> hi dreamind
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09:20 < [anders]> re re
09:20 < n00kie> hey [anders]
09:20 < n00kie> How are you?
09:21 < [anders]> n00kie: not bad.. yourself?
09:21 < blindcoder> wb [anders]
09:21 < [anders]> ta blindcoder
09:23 < n00kie> fine thanks you
09:25 < owl> wtf
09:25 < owl> passwd: Module is unknown
09:26 < owl> someone knows the error
09:26 < owl> ?
09:28 < n00kie> o_O
09:28 < owl> *g* yes
09:29 < owl> hrm... shit...
09:33 < owl> Jul 25 07:18:42 localhost login[241]: PAM unable to
09:33 < owl> dlopen(/lib/security/pam_cracklib.so)
09:33 < owl> Jul 25 07:18:42 localhost login[241]: PAM [dlerror:
09:33 < owl> /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
09:33 < owl> directory]
09:33 < owl> Jul 25 07:18:42 localhost login[241]: PAM adding faulty module:
09:33 < owl> /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so
09:33 < owl> Jul 25 07:18:52 localhost login(pam_unix)[241]: bad username []
09:34 < owl> any suggestions?
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09:36 < n00kie> hmm, looks like that cracklib isn't installed
09:36 < owl> cracklib?
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09:37 < owl> cracklib... *blindness*
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09:40 < n00kie> err, damn isp
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09:42 < n00kie> owl: What was the last message, you saw from me?
09:43 < owl> n00kie: [09:36] < n00kie> hmm, looks like that cracklib isn't installed
09:43 < n00kie> n00kie | http://www.rocklinux.net/packages/cracklib.html
09:44 < owl> hmmm.
09:44 < owl> more interesting: pam...
09:45 < owl> does it really need bdb41? what for?
09:46 < owl> ah... recompiling helped... oki... reboot again... bbl.
09:51 < n00kie> good luck owl :)
09:51 < n00kie> I hope for you, it works now :)
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10:01 < owl> hmmmmmmmm...
10:01 < owl> looks quite working ;p
10:01 < owl> but first - let's test it  bit more... say - during the weekend... and after that the minimal_xfree patch will be send
10:04 < owl> hrm... someone knows why vlock is in endless loop, and complaining about:
10:05 < owl> this tty is now locked please enter the password to unlock... that passowrd is incorrect, pleaste try again (but i didn't enter a passwd)
10:05 < owl> (rights-problem? with root it's working correct)
10:07 < fake> mornin
10:07 < owl> moin fake
10:08 < blindcoder> moin fake
10:10 < fake> owl: i encounter that too, once in a while
10:10 < fake> i enter a username at the login prompy of vc/1 and press enter
10:10 < fake> and then the screen is printed over and over and over with 'Password:'
10:11 < fake> as if you press enter all the time
10:11 < owl> O_o login-prompt? /me has the problem only with vlock...
10:11 < owl> hrm.yes. strange...
10:11 < fake> owl: the problem might be the same.
10:11 < owl> yes... sounds so... login and vlock are depending on pam, aren't they?
10:11 < fake> owl: wheres vlock is a bit harder. i can just switch to vc/2 and HUP the getty
10:12 < owl> hm. k.
10:14 < fake> but vlock locks the vc change, iirc.
10:14 < owl> vc change?
10:14 < [anders]> owl: ability to change to another vc
10:14 < owl> k.
10:15 < [anders]> lo owl, fake
10:15 < fake> [anders]: gmornin' !
10:15 < [anders]> fake: :-)
10:17 < owl> hi [anders]
10:19 < [anders]> owl: :-)
10:27 < esden> good morning
10:27 < esden> blindcoder: what was the problem with the config?
10:27 < blindcoder> esden: the file config/default/config got completely fucked up
10:28 < blindcoder> esden: and I also don't know what to do about Build-Tools
10:28 < blindcoder> esden: can I call you on the phone?
10:28 < esden> ack
10:29 < owl> hi esden
10:31 < n00kie>  moin waswn :)
10:31 < n00kie> moin esden :)
10:32 < fake> moin esden
10:33 < n00kie> hiho fake
10:33 < [anders]> lo esden
10:35 < esden> sigh ... another brain skew in rocklinux ... nice
10:35 < [anders]> 'brain skew' - that's a new one on me.. :)
10:37 < owl> brainwhat?
10:38 < [anders]> I'd guess that 'skew' and 'skewer' might have something in common, and you use skewers for kebabs.
10:39 < [anders]> 'skew' also means something along the lines of 'twist' iirc
10:39 < esden> ahhh ... now I understand better ..
10:40 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... the find is run because it is searching for the changed files .. as I stated to you on the phone
10:40 < esden> and once more yes ... we can ignore that
10:41 < esden> you simply remove the line whene Build-Tools searches for changed files
10:41 < blindcoder> esden: yes, that is also what I saw
10:41 < esden> that should solve the problem
10:41 < blindcoder> I've now done the following:
10:41 < blindcoder> if [ -f "build/$ROCKCFG_ID/$toolsdir/stage${stagelevel}.ok" ] ; then
10:41 < blindcoder>         exit 0
10:41 < blindcoder> fi
10:41 < blindcoder> if [ -f "build/$ROCKCFG_ID/$toolsdir/stage${stagelevel}.lock" ] ; then
10:41 < blindcoder>         while [ -f "build/$ROCKCFG_ID/$toolsdir/stage${stagelevel}.lock" ] ; do
10:41 < blindcoder>                 sleep 5
10:41 < blindcoder>         done
10:41 < blindcoder>         exit 0
10:41 < blindcoder> fi
10:42 < blindcoder> then it creates build/$ROCKCFG_ID/$toolsdir/stage${stagelevel}.lock and renames it to build/$ROCKCFG_ID/$toolsdir/stage${stagelevel}.ok when done
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10:42 < martin> moin
10:42 < esden> blindcoder: you know that you can get a deadlock that way?
10:42 < blindcoder> I need that locking mechanism because else ALL clients will build the Tools simultanedsly
10:42 < owl> hi martin
10:42 < blindcoder> nope, there won't be a deadlock
10:42 < blindcoder> moin moin martin
10:43 < esden> but I think we can ignore that here in this case ...
10:43 < blindcoder> brb tele
10:43 < martin> hi owl, blindcoder, ...
10:43 < esden> the probability that a deadlock occures is very small
10:43 < esden> hi martin 
10:43 < blindcoder> where should there occur a deadlock?
10:45 < martin> hello esden
10:45 < esden> blindcoder: sorry not a deadlock ... but two machines still are able to run Build-Tools simultanously
10:45 < blindcoder> esden: ah, rene answered on ML
10:45 < esden> blindcoder: ack
10:45 < blindcoder> I'll do that, sounds much easier
10:46 < esden> blindcoder: and I think his solution is also an idea
10:46 < blindcoder> yes. I'l try his first
10:46 < esden> now I have to go for a shower ... my mother needs me to get some stuff ...
10:47 < esden> blindcoder: the solution of rene and ours are not excluding each other
10:47 < esden> we need both
10:47 * -> esden -> shower
10:49 < blindcoder> esden: as a matter of fact, they are. because every machine needs to have its own copy of the tools.*
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11:01 < esden> blindcoder: but the build/*/root directory has to be shared ...
11:01 < esden> blindcoder: and ... do not restart the whole build ... but do :
11:02 < esden> rm build/*/root/var/adm/logs/3-* build/*/root/var/adm/logs/5-*
11:02 < esden> because stage 0, 1 and 2 went without problems
11:03 < esden> If I have seen it correctl
11:03 < esden> e
11:03 < esden> -e 
11:03 < esden> +y
11:03 < esden> argh
11:03 * -> esden takes a baseball bat and hits on the table
11:04 < [anders]> esden: no good thing hitting the table.. go outside and chop wood instead. :)
11:04 < fake> *SHOCK*
11:04 < fake> esden: if someone asks, the portscan started from apollo was me, target is my machine at home
11:05 < blindcoder> esden: sorry... too late >_<
11:05 < blindcoder> fake: why shock?
11:07 < esden> blindcoder: you know how I get a shock when you explode when something is not working ... this here was the same ... but I have not used my hands to hit the table as you do ... but a baseball bat
11:07 < fake> blindcoder: baseball bat -> table -> loud.
11:07 < blindcoder> esden: good ^^
11:08 < blindcoder> esden: I see you are learning from an expert :)
11:08 < esden> blindcoder: no ... not good ... you have a very bad influence on me *sigh*
11:09 < esden> blindcoder: so you started the whole build from scratch?
11:09 < blindcoder> esden: yes, but think positive: It should be finished in about 9 hours anyway
11:09 < blindcoder> because now every package builds 10-15 minutes faster
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11:10 < blindcoder> which saves around 14 hours build-time
11:10 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to lunch now
11:11 < esden> bon apetitt blindcoder 
11:17 * fake listening to Apocalyptica
11:21 < owl> fake: which album?
11:25 < fake> Best Of
11:25 < fake> currently 'driven'
11:26 < owl> i c.
11:26 < fake> apocalyptica is very relaxing... it supports coding very fine
11:27 < owl> *g* relaxing? naja...
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11:31 < fake> oh my god.
11:31 < fake> rsynth (another text-to-speech system) almost got the autoconf idea
11:32 < fake> but the output sounds worse than the demo tts written in basic on the amiga workbench diskette
11:32 < fake> but it's small...
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11:41 < owl> waaah... forgot how to set the bell off...?
11:41 < owl> s/?//
11:41 < fake> huh?
11:41 < fake> setterm -bfreq 0
11:42 < fake> cool, i love alsa
11:42 < fake> the rock build reads out it's headlines while apocalyptica is playing in the foreground
11:43 < fake> thaks to the alsa-xmms plugin...
11:44 < owl> thx
11:45 < cytrinox> apocalyptica rocks ;)
11:45 < fake> yeah...
11:46 < cytrinox> fake: warst du auch aufm linuxtag?
11:46 * blindcoder back
11:46 < cytrinox> rehi blindcoder
11:47 < blindcoder> hi cytrinox
11:49 < fake> cytrinox: ack
11:51 < cytrinox> ...
11:54 < fake> cool. with wireless headphones you can now run around your house, listen to music, and get status reports of you rock builds all in one... nice ;)
11:55 < owl> *rofl*
11:55 < cytrinox> cool :)
12:01 < fake> sweet. rsynth's say executable is 70 Kb if stripped
12:01 < fake> it sounds horrible, but one can undestand it
12:02 < blindcoder> grmpf
12:02 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Creato-ParaSim is b0rken
12:04 < owl> 2146 mp3s in media-library ;) sweet
12:06 < fake> owl: at work?
12:06 < owl> fake: jup
12:06 < owl> on my workstation hre...
12:08 < fake> not bad..
12:08 < fake> you could set up a streaming server using Apache::MP3 ;)
12:09 < owl> ack. at least i 'm allowed to listen to music while starring onto the monitor and waiting for the "feierabend"
12:09 < owl> *lol* sure. :p
12:09 < owl> i will do this, if i'm having a contract with another company and want to be fired ;p
12:10 < fake> boy, i am soo stupid.
12:10 < owl> fake?
12:10 < fake> i was bulding the rsynth package...
12:10 < fake> if i built it by hand it worked fine.
12:11 < fake> but with Build-Pkg the say executable failed with SIGILL, illegal instruction
12:11 < fake> now i dove into it (gdb) and found several cool optimizations
12:11 < fake> SIMD instructions and stuff
12:12 < fake> i always thought my transmeta was on -pentium3 level >_<
12:12 < fake> good to know, it is not.
12:12 < fake> (boy am i dumb)
12:12 < owl> ouch...
12:16 < owl> `ip' ? where or what is it? or better: in which package?
12:17 < fake> iproute2
12:17 < owl> ok. thx
12:17 < fake> it's a new and much better alternative for the ifconfig utility
12:17 < owl> hm. k.
12:18 < fake> though it seems unmaintained currently :(
12:18 < owl> oops.
12:26 < blindcoder> ah, 2 minutes for 00-dirtree looks much better than 20 minutes
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12:28 < alexander> Hi all
12:29 < fake> hm, if i call a program with 2>&1 > /dev/null, how can it still print on the console ?
12:29 < alexander> Anbyody know how to include files that starts with . in a tar arcive?
12:29 < fake> ah ok
12:29 < fake> alexander: use find to generate the lit
12:30 < fake> alexander: list
12:30 < owl> hi alexander
12:30 < alexander> fake, oki, so i cant get tar to do that?
12:30 < alexander> owl, hi :)
12:30 < fake> alexander: it should include them
12:30 < fake> alexander: if you specify a directory
12:30 < blindcoder> esden: PING
12:30 < fake> alexander: tar cfvz output.tgz directory/
12:30 < fake> alexander: tar cfvz output.tgz directory
12:31 < blindcoder> tar cfvI archive.tbz2 .
12:31 < alexander> fake, oki, maybe its bash that doesnt supply it if i do tar -cvvf * /tmp/bla.tar
12:31 < alexander> Its the same with mv
12:32 < blindcoder> yes, that's bash-behaviour
12:33 < alexander> blindcoder, hmm, oki :(
12:33 < [anders]> alexander: uhm, 'tar -cvvf * /tmp/bla.tar' isn't going to work..
12:33 < [anders]> tar -cvvf /tmp/bla.tar *   <- that should work
12:34 < alexander> [anders], ups the wrong way, oki, i know :)
12:34 < fake> alexander: ack
12:34 < [anders]> :)
12:37 * owl np: corvus corax - in taberna
12:38 < fake> wir halten einen konvent mit den saufbruedern!
12:38 < fake> wachna wachna...
12:39 < owl> *g*
12:39 < alexander> got to go, cya
12:39 < owl> bye alexander
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12:39 < blindcoder> WAHAHAHAHA
12:39 < blindcoder> SIEMENS is _so_ _fscking_ _stupid_
12:40 < owl> blindcoder: why?
12:40 < blindcoder> After more than one year that I'm working here now they come to me with a "Verschwiegenheitserklaerung" and then they aren't even sure if I am needed or even _allowed_ to sign one!!@!
12:41 < blindcoder> please feed the grammar errors, or they starve!
12:42 < blindcoder> esden: PING PING PING!!!
12:44 < owl> O_o terror-ping
12:45 < [anders]> Holy tripple ping Batman...
12:46 < fake> double ping with shielding!
12:46 < blindcoder> no, that was already PING 2, 3 and 4
12:46 < [anders]> twisted ping?
12:47 < fake> root@esden:~# iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j DROP
12:47 < fake> that's on his bash_history
12:48 < blindcoder> packet_send --protocol baseball-bat --type knock
12:48 < blindcoder> does he drop that, too? *g*
12:50 < fake> no, it makes him drop.
12:50 < blindcoder> damn
12:51 < blindcoder> because I think it's dietlibc that screws up the config/default/config file
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12:52 < owl> O_o whyi thiso?
12:52 < owl>  hfi Nebukadneza q
12:52 < owl> asföjkldjklöfsad
12:52 < owl> *grrrr* giving up typing
12:53 < fake> hi Nebukadneza
12:53 < Nebukadneza> *yawns*
12:55 < owl> lazy student
12:55 < Nebukadneza> :)
12:58 * -> esden bought an "akustik koppler" at caritas
12:58 < esden> good morning Nebukadneza 
12:58 < Nebukadneza> ??
12:59 < esden> Nebukadneza: ??
12:59 < esden> blindcoder: pong
12:59 < owl> hi esden
13:00 < esden> humm ... now blindcoder is off
13:01 < owl> 2313 packets transmitted, 25 packets received, 99% packet loss
13:02 < esden> owl: well done ;)
13:03 < esden> blindcoder: how can my dietlibc possibly break anything o_O 
13:05 < owl> gawk (bootdisk) is also broken btw
13:05 < owl> (or better... patch not applied)
13:07 < Nebukadneza> gawk?
13:08 < esden> owl: fix it and send patch
13:08 < esden> if it is only a not applyied patch
13:09 < esden> ping daja77 
13:09 < esden> fake: when will you be at ingolstadt?
13:10 < Nebukadneza> pong esden
13:10 < Nebukadneza> ddos esden
13:10 < fake> i am here.
13:10 < fake> esden: still ill
13:10 < fake> Nebukadneza: gawk = GNU awk
13:11 < fake> debian people don't like that, they use mawk, which is evil.
13:11 < esden> ahh right
13:11 < Nebukadneza> hm
13:11 < Nebukadneza> fake: im not the "typical" debian user
13:11 < Nebukadneza> *argh* i remember ...
13:11 < fake> then show me your 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/awk'
13:11 < Nebukadneza> i once had a donkey-kill-script wich used gawk
13:12 < Nebukadneza> /usr/bin/gawk
13:12 < fake> nice *patpat*
13:12 < Nebukadneza> *hrhr*
13:12 < fake> esden: why do you ask?
13:12 < owl> esden: ...
13:12 < Nebukadneza> i changed nothing ... standart at woody unstalbe/testing (sid/sarge)
13:13 < fake> then they changed it?
13:13 < Nebukadneza> i think so ...
13:13 < fake> unbelievable.
13:13 < Nebukadneza> maybe in sid or sarge
13:13 < fake> with woody 3.0 stable it's still mawk
13:13 < Nebukadneza> hmm
13:13 < fake> gives you a fat pain up the arse when trying to compile rock.
13:13 < Nebukadneza> stable ... such old software ive never seen
13:14 < esden> fake: because I would appreciate your assistance in gettin 2.6 kernel running ... I now try to get it running simply disabling devfsd
13:14 < Nebukadneza> fake -> ????
13:14 < esden> and I would like to continue power-geek-talk ;)
13:14 < fake> Nebukadneza: i could copy you a slackware cd.. you'd wonder... ;)
13:14 < Nebukadneza> i have a slackware cd here ...
13:14 * -> esden brb ... rebooting ... *sigh*
13:14 < Nebukadneza> but stillt havent tryed it
13:14 < Nebukadneza> (it looks like that the mosix kernel work this time)
13:15 < fake> esden: mkay', in return i'd need your help at packaging festival in a sane way
13:15 < fake> Nebukadneza: i mean a slackware cd from 1995 ;)
13:15 < Nebukadneza> uh
13:15 < Nebukadneza> whats with that?
13:15 < fake> (do you want to use an a.out based or the BRAND NEW libc6 ELF based system?)
13:16 < Nebukadneza> *G*G*
13:16 < fake> oh, and kernel 1.3 something
13:16 < Nebukadneza> *G*
13:16 < Nebukadneza> this ruleZ
13:16 < Nebukadneza> *want*want*want*want*
13:16 < Nebukadneza> can u burn and send it to me?
13:17 < Nebukadneza> withe a marking "porto zahlt der empfänger" or something
13:17 < fake> Nebukadneza: i think i could do that, if you sent me your dead indiy's ;)
13:17 < fake> -i
13:17 < Nebukadneza> *argh*
13:17 < fake> *g*
13:17 * fake is so 3v1l
13:17 < Nebukadneza> i can send you a ... lets see ... a screen with automatical bloodpatch
13:18 < fake> sony?
13:18 < Nebukadneza> fake: you mean "3\/!|_|_"
13:18 < Nebukadneza> no ...
13:18 < fake> 15" ?
13:18 < fake> oh.
13:18 < Nebukadneza> jep
13:18 < fake> no.
13:18 < fake> no interest. i like my terminal well done.
13:18 < Nebukadneza> if you hit it one time its green, two times yellow, three time bloodpatchmode(red)
13:18 < fake> or medium.
13:18 < Nebukadneza> afk
13:18 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^afk
13:21 < fake> o/~ komm zu mir... weltunter... sag kein wort... weltunter... zoegre nicht mehr laenger, dann sind wir noch heute fort... o/~
13:24 * blindcoder back
13:25 < esden> re
13:25 < esden> blindcoder: scrollback
13:25 < fake> esden: that ok?
13:26 < esden> fake: it is booting ... but I do not find the xircom drivers in 2.6
13:26 < esden> and my mouspad is not working
13:26 < owl> mousepad?
13:26 < esden> but I read something about the mouspad stuff on the rlml
13:26 < esden> fake: I will help you with festival ... no problem
13:27 < esden> fake: I will inform you when I move my ass in direction of bitz
13:28 < esden> but first I have to eat something and bring half a ton of bottles to some stores
13:28 < esden> so I have some more money ;)
13:28 < blindcoder> esden: sorry, just got a major thing to do until thursday from my boss
13:29 < esden> blindcoder: ok .. no problem 
13:29 < esden> blindcoder: the cluster is not running .. right?
13:29 < blindcoder> hmm... nope... so it was not dietlibc
13:29 < blindcoder> but it breaks after stage 1
13:29 < blindcoder> there it screws up the config/default/config file
13:30 < blindcoder> I'll now chattr +i config/default/config and continue
13:30 < esden> blindcoder: I will take a look at it when I am in bitz
13:30 < esden> +i o_O
13:30 < blindcoder> invincible
13:30 < esden> immutable ... 
13:31 < esden> but invincible sounds better
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13:31 < blindcoder> esden: btw: dietlibc creates a file outside root...
13:32 * -> esden -> food
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13:36 < jsaw_> re
13:37 < owl> *lol* our "firmenmaskottchen" is now here
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13:40 < fake> owl: KILL IT
13:40 < fake> *g*
13:41 < owl> fake: a dog? nah. even it is a rottweiler...
13:42 * fake is the voice in your head
13:42 < owl> *lol*
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13:46 < fake> hm, my mail to the ml doesn't arrive?
13:47 < blindcoder> I wonder if anyone ever tested the Cluster-Build since it was introduced...
13:47 < Nebukadneza> i've just compiled the mosix kernel without errors
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13:58 < fake> blindcoder: i did.
13:58 < fake> blindcoder: it worked fine
13:58 < blindcoder> fake: well, it causes a ton of problems here
13:59 < blindcoder> config files get fubar'ed, nfs-utils use a buggy version.
13:59 < fake> blindcoder: it's the camera. they don't like it, too...
13:59 < blindcoder> fake: the cam isn't even at bitz anymore
14:00 < fake> blindcoder: good. then maybe it's the memory of the camera. hehe.
14:00 * fake can't get enough of Atrocity - Sound of Silence
14:00 < fake> argh.
14:00 < fake> shell config problem
14:00 < blindcoder> fake: no, I don't think so. anything helpful, too?
14:00 < fake> coding, even
14:01 < SMP> *SIGH*
14:01 < fake> blindcoder: i have no clue.
14:01 < fake> SMP: good evening.
14:01 < fake> SMP: what's up?
14:01 < SMP> I booted into beta6
14:01 < fake> aaaand?
14:02 < SMP> it sucks
14:02 < fake> ookay.
14:02 < fake> then make it rule ;)
14:03 < fake> no, seriously, what is it this time?
14:05 < SMP> things like /sbin/insmod.old or /usr/sbin/vgchange
14:05 < SMP> I wonder if I am the only one who actually cares to look at his packages' flists
14:05 < fake> SMP: what's wrong with /sbin/insmod.old ?
14:06 < SMP> nothing, as long as there is an /sbin/insmod
14:06 < fake> o_O
14:06 < fake> ouch
14:06 < fake> well, i have /sbin/insmod and /sbin/insmod.old
14:07 < SMP> which package ins insmod from?
14:07 < fake> module-init-tools
14:08 < SMP> that's for kernel >= 2.5
14:08 < SMP> I run 2.4 so I don't bother installing it
14:08 < fake> SMP: that's a full qualified bug
14:08 < fake> SMP: if module-init-tools is not installed, the renaming to insmod.old shouldn't happen
14:09 < fake> s,installed,built,
14:09 < SMP> well, it was built
14:09 < fake> well.. install was right
14:09 < fake> uh-oh.
14:10 < fake> modutils should depend on module-init-tools, then
14:10 < fake> did you resolve dependencies in gasgui?
14:10 < SMP> sure
14:10 < fake> oerks
14:11 < fake> ~/complain.sh | mail rock-linux@rocklinux.org
14:11 < SMP> I'll send a full report later
14:11 < SMP> two dozen more things
14:11 < fake> -s cool
14:11 < SMP> and actually a few things that I liked ;-)
14:12 < fake> wow ;)
14:12 < fake> can someone help me with a shell coding question?
14:12 < fake> i have a string, which contains a literal $1
14:13 < blindcoder> yes
14:13 < fake> now i want to replace that $1 by the actual variable $1's value
14:13 < SMP> you mean you have something like foo='bla $1'
14:13 < blindcoder> echo $string | sed 's,\$1,'"$1"',g'
14:13 < jsaw_> evil, eehh, eval
14:13 < SMP> blindcoder: *BRRR*
14:14 < SMP> yeah, eval
14:14 < fake> blindcoder: argh
14:14 < fake> eval, aye
14:14 < blindcoder> hmm... eval might be better here ^^
14:14 < fake> blindcoder: it has to work for all $0...9
14:14 < blindcoder> fake: you didn't say so.
14:14 < fake> blindcoder: so 'id have to do submatches, and fiddle that in again
14:14 < fake> blindcoder: btw sed causes overhead ;)
14:15 < SMP> eval doesn't help you replace that directly in the variable, though
14:15 < blindcoder> fake: okay, I'll stop answering your questions then.
14:15 < jsaw_> eval "var=$var" should work, shouldn't it?
14:16 < jsaw_> ups, s/$var/\"$var\"/
14:16 < fake> jsaw_: yes
14:17 < fake> blindcoder: ...
14:17 < fake> blindcoder: working with you is always a pleasure.
14:17 < blindcoder> fake: as is being told all the negative things ones solution has.
14:19 < fake> jsaw_: very nice. now what if there is a " in the text? escape it beforehand?
14:20 < jsaw_> blindcoder: if u mean me, I was hitting return a couple of milliseconds past u.
14:20 < fake> blindcoder: that is called critic, which you seem to have problems to handle.
14:20 < fake> blindcoder: which is, albeit not nice, important. it helps improve things.
14:21 < jsaw_> hmmm, I think eval "var=\'$var\'" might work. But then u have to make sure, there are no ' in $var....
14:21 < blindcoder> fake: well, then maybe you want some critic from me?
14:21 < SMP> jsaw_: I'll do more rockplug testing later with a better kernel. looks quite alright so far
14:21 < fake> jsaw_: that's one or the other.
14:22 < jsaw_> SMP: phew. good to hear.
14:22 < fake> blindcoder: if it helps make things better, go ahed
14:22 < blindcoder> fake: I'll send you an email, I don't think this belongs here.
14:22 < fake> blindcoder: maybe finally the answer to the mail i sent you in december?
14:23 < fake> jsaw_: i'll just strip out any "'s beforehand. hehe.
14:23 < blindcoder> fake: maybe a followup. Just so much: the few times I had the pleasure to meet you since then I had the distinct craving to just throw you out of the next window.
14:24 < fake> blindcoder: the big question is, why?
14:25 < fake> jsaw_: thanks, this solution kicks ass. it's short, and easy to read.
14:26 < blindcoder> fake: ekxample yesterday: If I wouldn't have asked you to come round you'd have stretched the topic for weeks. But I haven't had a single productive contribution to the action from you at all.
14:26 < esden> humm ... ok ... I leave for bitz now ...
14:26 < esden> fake: do you join me?
14:26 < fake> blindcoder: i can't understand your blind aggression, thus i don't feel guilty for anything
14:26 < blindcoder> esden: see you later!
14:26 < esden> blindcoder: ack
14:26 < fake> esden: cya
14:26 < esden> blindcoder: yes I know that I will see you
14:26 < esden> ;)
14:26 < fake> esden: will have to get a present for nos first
14:27 < esden> fake: ok ... so do it quickly ;)
14:27 < fake> esden: will fix one more bug.. just one...
14:27 < fake> ;)
14:27 < esden> blindcoder: you will be at 20:00 there?
14:27 < blindcoder> fake: and no it's not blind. it's very well targeted at least from my PoV.
14:27 < esden> fake: no ... you can do it in bitz ... *grummel*
14:28 < blindcoder> esden: around that, but I have to go home and get the cam first
14:28 < blindcoder> esden: but you can also go to my place and fetch it if you want
14:28 < blindcoder> esden: it's next to the left speaker.
14:28 < blindcoder> on top of it, because there's a power plug free :)
14:28 < esden> blindcoder: no ... otherwise fake will not come to bitz and help me with my stuff ;)
14:29 < blindcoder> hmhm
14:29 < esden> blindcoder: I will pick up it later
14:29 < blindcoder> cll my parents first to see if they're home so you can get in.
14:29 < esden> blindcoder: do it
14:30 < blindcoder> esden: they're at home now, you should call them to see if they're home as soon as you want to pick the cam up.
14:30 < esden> blindcoder: kk
14:31 < esden> hmm ... /me needs new tabacco ... >_<
14:32 < fake> esden: no problem with the cam, i'll stay downstairs
14:32 < esden> fake: ok
14:35 < SMP> fake: btw. the sonypi driver emulates a mouse itself right?
14:36 < esden> ok ... I am off ... cu l8er
14:37 < fake> SMP: not that i know of?
14:37 < SMP> well it looks like
14:38 < SMP> I don't run sjog or sonypid and I get wheelmouse events and a middlee button click in X
14:39 < fake> SMP: just a second
14:39 < SMP> have your X use /dev/input/mice
14:39 < fake> SMP: you're right... *astonished*
14:39 < fake> SMP: what else? ;)
14:40 < fake> SMP: but with sjog you get a free, cool volume- and brightness-regulator
14:40 < fake> SMP: and a configurable menu, whilst it is still usable as scroll-wheel
14:40 < SMP> well, if you only have the ps/2 pad and no external mouse... then no /dev/input/mice ..
14:41 < SMP> I was wondering if sjog conflicts a bit here
14:41 < SMP> I'd like to switch the mouse emu off in sjog
14:43 < fake> SMP: no idea if and how that works
14:43 < fake> SMP: i always use my clit
14:43 < fake> ;)
14:43 < SMP>  . o O ( patch the source )
14:44 < fake> SMP: sjog's source is nice, i wrote a memory-stick insertion recognizing bit once
14:44 < fake> SMP: i wanted a dialog to pop up, asking for the passphrase of my serpent-
14:44 < fake> SMP: encoded memorystick ;)
14:45 < fake> SMP: it all worked, but then i was too lazy to code the gtk stuff for the frontend
14:45 < SMP> by the way, can people please test memtest? it locked up on my laptop and I remember it also did that a while ago on another machine
14:54 < rolla_> re
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14:55 < [anders]> lo rolla
14:55 < [anders]> and lo SMP
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14:55 < Aard> re.
14:55 < owl> hi Aard
14:55 * rolla enjoying the fun of emerge
14:56 < owl> rolla: emerge?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
14:56 < rolla> owl yup it is on my work box better than your windows work box ;)
14:58 < owl> rolla: ah so... work box
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15:00 < rolla> owl: yup
15:00 < rolla> but it is cool to use can make one very lazy
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15:04 < owl> hmm
15:05 < Aard> *argh* /me was trying to send an email to one of the hardware-guys here. his name is `schraub', but we call him `schraube'.
15:06 < Aard> I tried to write to `schraube'...
15:11 < fake> hm, apropos email, is the list dead? did anyone get any of my rsynth addition mails?
15:12 < rolla> yes
15:12 < fake> oops.
15:12 < fake> then the resend was meaningless.
15:12 < fake> the question is - why didn't I get it?
15:13 < rolla> :)
15:14 * [anders] has not received anything from the rock ml for ages.. could have something to do with 'unsubscribe' perhaps...
15:14 < fake> rolla: impossible that you got that mail
15:15 < fake> rolla: it's stuck in my queue
15:15 < rolla> hmmm
15:15 < rolla> mom
15:16 < rolla> I confused your email for some of the others I have gotten today from the list
15:18 < esden> re hi all
15:18 < owl> wb esden
15:20 < rolla> re esden
15:20 < fake> repaired
15:20 < fake> esden: re
15:21 < esden> fake: when you leave please take some coffee with you ;)
15:21 < esden> I forgot it ... :(
15:21 < fake> esden: coffee-powder?
15:21 < esden> fake: ack
15:21 < fake> esden: or a readily made can of coffee?
15:21 < esden> fake: coffee-powder would be more usable if you ask me ...
15:22 < fake> esden: more 'ergiebig' :0
15:25 < esden> fake: now ... start to move your body ;)
15:32 < blindcoder> okay, small patch to kernel will be necessary... and another change to /etc/rc.d/rc to make it global... hmm... I think I almost have it...
15:32 < fake> hm, telekom smtprelay is lacking
15:33 < fake> esden: i want to send off a mail first. why are you in such a hurry?
15:35 < blindcoder> esden: I'm currently recompiling the kernel because of 2 Bit differenc that had to be done and will reboot the machine again then
15:35 < esden> fake: dunno ... I only want to motivate you ... nothing else
15:36 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... fine
15:36 < blindcoder> and it really was just two bit... 3 instead of 4 >_<
15:37 < blindcoder> damn... 3 bit
15:38 < blindcoder> make bzImage should be enough...
15:38 < gomer> re
15:39 < owl> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-25.07.03-003/
15:41 < fake> typo3 is sweet
15:54 < fake> esden: okay, mail is out, i'll drive to westpark now and get nos' present, and then i'll hit bitz.
15:54 < rolla> nos' ?
15:54 < fake> rolla: a friend of mine, nos is short for nosferatu ;)
15:54 < rolla> a vampire ?
15:55 < fake> rolla: it's his nick
15:55 < esden> fake: ok ... I am waiting for you
15:55 < fake> rolla: his 2nd first name is "Nikolaus" ;)
15:55 < rolla> :)
15:56 < rolla> have fune
15:56 < fake> rolla: do you remember what a nikolaus is in germany?
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15:56 < blindcoder> damn... rock standard kernel takes ages to compile on a 700 MHz machine...
15:57 < rolla> yup
15:58 < rolla> fake: sure are you saying you can't have fun in germany?
15:58 < rolla> fake: I guess I don't know what a nikolaus is ;)
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15:59 < fake> rolla: that's the 'santa claus' that comes on 6th of december
15:59 < fake> rolla: it's not exactly santa clause
15:59 < fake> rolla: some minor minion of the christmas celebration gang ;)
16:00 < blindcoder> esden: ping
16:00 < esden> blindcoder: ?
16:01 < fake> rolla: he tells kids what they did wrong over the year and tells them to do better, and gentle kids get sweets and stuff
16:01 < blindcoder> esden: can you watch node16 again?
16:01 < blindcoder> esden: in theory it should work now
16:01 < esden> urgh ... *assshift*
16:01 < rolla> fake: oh okay I understand
16:01 < owl> <-- off (leaving office) bbl
16:01 < blindcoder> esden: but for some reason my manually compiled kernel with ROCKs config is only 2/3 in size as the ROCK compiled one...
16:01 < fake> rolla: so the nickname is balanced by his 2nd firstname
16:02 < fake> and now i'm off. bye, cu later
16:04 < esden> blindcoder: the screen is compleatly black ...
16:04 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... that's wrong...
16:04 < blindcoder> maybe..
16:04 < blindcoder> hmm...
16:04 < blindcoder> nah, can't be... or can it?
16:04 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: it looks like it couldn't load any modules, can you reboot and select "rock" in lilo?
16:04 < blindcoder> that's the old kernel ^^
16:05 < esden> blindcoder: on my way 
16:05 < blindcoder> but it's good that the kernel is blank, that proves that I was right
16:05 < blindcoder> WAIT
16:05 < blindcoder> do vc/2 to vc/6 work?
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16:07 < esden> blindcoder: nope
16:08 < esden> hmm ...
16:08 < blindcoder> hmm... that's bad...
16:08 < esden> at least in the moment that I tested
16:08 < blindcoder> they should have worked...
16:08 < blindcoder> well, I'll just assume they didn't work because kernel couldn't load its modules...
16:08 < esden> blindcoder: can be
16:12 < blindcoder> esden: okay, I'll apply my changes to a new install CD and take that with me to bitz today
16:12 < blindcoder> btw, I don't have a "Stativ"
16:12 < blindcoder> We'll have to mount the cam somewhere else then
16:16 < esden> blindcoder: ok
16:16 < esden> humpf
16:16 < esden> damn pcmcia stuff
16:30 < esden> gnarf ... they moved really all options around in the 2.6 kernel 
16:33 < esden> rebooting
16:34 < blindcoder> almost forgot to patch /etc/lilo.conf
16:36 < blindcoder> ah, node14 is finished with 1-glibc
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16:38 < blindcoder> brb tele
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16:52 < esden> re
16:53 < Mike1> re
16:53 < esden> hmm ... 2.6 does not like my laptop :(
16:53 < esden> or I am too stupid ... 
16:53 < esden> I bet for the second
16:53 < Mike1> poor esdy
16:53 < Mike1> you are _NOT_ stupid.
16:54 < esden> I said that I am too stupid ... not stupid ;)
16:54 < Mike1> well i deny to accept that.
16:55 < rolla> re Mike1
16:55 < Mike1> hi rolla
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17:40 < S_P> w00t
17:41 < Mike1> S_P: hi, have you seen _M_ ?
17:42 < S_P> so I decided to replace LILO with GRUB on my laptop ... as using the grub frontend on linux hangs the machine hard I wanted to do the install from a grub bootdisk ...
17:43 < Mike1> and what happened?
17:43 < S_P> went looking for a floppy that would actually work and found a floppy labeled 'grub' that I had used to test grub circa 1999 -- and it still worked (after I put the new grub on it)
17:44 < S_P> :-)
17:44 < Mike1> :))
17:51 < S_P> (for the record: GRUB ROCKS)
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17:52 * daja77 waves
17:53 < fake> hi daja77 !
17:54 < daja77> hi fake, exam is over *puh*
17:56 < daja77> *argl* 643 builds total, 440 completed fine, 203 with errors.
17:59 < fake> oops
18:13 * daja77 now calling arcor *aaaargh*
18:16 * daja77 now off, dunno when I'll be back my ntba is borken, so no inet at home
18:17 < daja77> cu
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18:55 < owl> rehi
19:08 < Aard> wb owl
19:11 < owl> thx Aard
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19:37 < fake>  hm...
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19:45 < Christian> Tach auch :()
19:45 < gomer> tach
19:45 * blindcoder back
19:45 < fake> hiho
19:47 < Christian> q
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19:57 < owl> hi Nebukadneza , cchamilt , blindcoder , fake , gomer
19:57 < owl> aeh... or so
19:59 < Nebukadneza> owl: argh :) too much people here
20:00 < owl> Nebukadneza: why? ;)
20:00 < Nebukadneza> "<owl> hi Nebukadneza , cchamilt , blindcoder , fake , gomer"
20:00 < owl> ah so...
20:00 < gomer> immer diese hilights :P
20:01 < owl> hm
20:01 < rolla> e
20:01 < rolla> re
20:01 < owl> hi rolla
20:01 < rolla> hallo owl
20:02 < Nebukadneza> ping pong gomer
20:02 < Nebukadneza> *hightlight*
20:02 < gomer> pong ping
20:03 < owl> .oO(man are never in time... )
20:03 < owl> s/man/men
20:03 < rolla> owl was?!!?
20:03 < Nebukadneza> what is the name of these gimp fileformat?
20:03 < Nebukadneza> the endig?
20:03 < owl> rolla: maenner sind nie puenktlich
20:04 < owl> .xfc or so?
20:05 < Nebukadneza> hm
20:05 < Nebukadneza> kk
20:05 < owl> aeh. .xcf even
20:05 < Nebukadneza> :)
20:05 < Nebukadneza> it is ... thx
20:05 < owl> k. ;) yrw
20:06 < Nebukadneza> yrw?
20:07 < owl> you 're welcome (being fscking lazy)
20:19 < rolla> yawn
20:20 * owl gives rolla a coffee 
20:20 < owl> (with poison)
20:20 < rolla> thanks
20:20 < rolla> :P
20:20 < rolla> you are mean owl
20:21 < owl> :p
20:21 < owl> i 'm proud of it ;p
20:22 < rolla> I know I will have to remeber that next time
20:22 < owl> hihi . sure *vbeg*
20:22 < owl> how is it on the other side?
20:23 < rolla> of the ocean ?
20:23 < rolla> fine
20:23 < rolla> I am doing lots of SAp work
20:23 < owl> *lol* other side of life
20:25 < Nebukadneza> *wants a xbox to crack*
20:25 < rolla> of life what is the otehr side of life?
20:25 < owl> haha, like a friend did... (incl. + 120 gb hd i guess)
20:25 < owl> rolla: death... (because of the coffee + poison)
20:26 < rolla> ach so
20:26 < rolla> it is awful you have robbed me of my family :P
20:26 < owl> hihi ;p bad luck ;p
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20:40 < owl> wb ghost
20:40 < Nebukadneza> *argh*
20:40 < Nebukadneza> where are the manpages (man5/man7)?
20:41 < owl> /usr/share/man/
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20:42 < esden> ping netrunne1 
20:42 < owl> hi esden
20:42 < esden> hi owl 
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21:18 < Nebukadneza> anyone familar with mosix (not openmosix)
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21:22 < [anders]> Nebukadneza: familiar with the name and the concept, that's all
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21:50 < [anders]> http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-24-Copyrights_Story01.html
21:55 < daja77> re
21:57 < praenti> hi
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21:58 < [anders]> SCO's not got a leg to stand on, we knew that anyway, but it is nice to get confirmation. :)
21:58 < [anders]> watch their stock plummet... :)
22:02 < daja77> sco is only there for entertainment, no?
22:06 < owl> nah. that are man for..
22:10 < daja77> :P
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22:11 < owl> daja77: don't laugh... it's true ;p
22:12 < [anders]> owl: oh' behave...
22:12 < owl> [anders]: hm?
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22:14 < [anders]> owl: you're just moaning cause you're not getting it... ;-)
22:14 * [anders] would like to categorically state that he is joking
22:16 < owl> [anders]: nah... i'm in progress of getting a boyfriend... :p
22:16 * owl np: terrorgruppe - allein gegen alle
22:17 < [anders]> owl: what you using to catch one? baseball bat or CS spray? ;-)
22:17 < owl> cs spray?
22:17 < [anders]> pepper spray
22:17 < owl> *rofl* linux ;p
22:17 < [anders]> hehehehehe
22:18 < owl> :p
22:26 < SMP> phew
22:26 < owl> SMP: ?
22:33 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,258563,00.html << rofl
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22:50 < Nebukadneza> http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91124
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22:54 < knoti> Does a compilation especially for the Power G3 result in a measureable performance advantage? (I thougt, the Power series is so similar, that such an special optimization should result in near to nothing)
23:02 < owl> <-- sleeping. gn8
23:02 < Nebukadneza> gn8
23:08 * blindcoder back
23:08 < praenti> re
23:08 < Nebukadneza> ree
23:08 < Nebukadneza> http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91124    <--<-- can anyone look?? Plz
23:08 < blindcoder> any good woman-to-logic converters online?
23:08 < Nebukadneza> blindcoder: why?
23:09 < praenti> lol
23:10 < blindcoder> because I just had what I would call "half-a-date" and would like to understand what really happened...
23:10 < Nebukadneza> hm?
23:13 < daja77> blindcoder: such converters will never be build
23:14 < Nebukadneza> daja77: why?
23:14 < daja77> I guess you have no luck too
23:14 < daja77> a device for understanding women, do I really have to explain, why??!
23:14 < Nebukadneza> hmm
23:14 < Nebukadneza> /dev/woman
23:15 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ ls /dev/woman
23:15 < blindcoder> ls: /dev/woman: No such file or directory
23:15 < owl> a device for undertanding men.. for me please
23:15 < daja77> hehe devfs style /dev/woman/arm /dev/woman/leg ...
23:15 < daja77> owl: men are easy
23:15 < esden> gnarf ....
23:15 < Nebukadneza> owl: /dev/man
23:16 < Nebukadneza> :)
23:16 < daja77> esden: ?
23:16 < blindcoder> GUH-narf
23:16 < esden> the gnu_netcat needs improovement
23:16 < Nebukadneza> wei can make a ... what was this one chatbot ... elisa?
23:16 * daja77 notes that Nebukadneza often says strange stuff
23:17 < daja77> esden: hehe you mean it should link against dietlibc ...
23:17 < Nebukadneza> daja77: sorry ... my english is not that good ... today you lern nothing @ school
23:17 < daja77> pah
23:17 < Nebukadneza> why?
23:17 < esden> daja77: no ... it is not having the features that my original overpatched netcat has
23:17 < daja77> do it yourself man
23:17 < esden> will do
23:18 < daja77> my original overpatched ... *rofl*
23:18 < daja77> esden: that was for nebu
23:18 < Nebukadneza> hmm?
23:19 < daja77> ...exams are over *sing* ...
23:19 < Nebukadneza> :)
23:21 < Nebukadneza> *kills the mosix developers*
23:21 < daja77> hmm my inbox has everything I need
23:22 < daja77> Heighten Mood & Improve Sexu@l Desire
23:22 < daja77> what a day
23:22 < blindcoder> wha a day... yes...
23:22 < blindcoder> it started weak, got worse fast and ended... well... good!
23:23 < daja77> hehe
23:23 < daja77> Nebukadneza: maybe you should learn more before playing with that
23:23 < Nebukadneza> http://students.washington.edu/wfrenchu/Images/ms_final.gif
23:24 < daja77> what a crap
23:24 < Nebukadneza> :)
23:24 < Nebukadneza> its funny
23:24 < daja77> no
23:24 < Nebukadneza> but i hate such people too
23:24 < daja77> hm?
23:25 < Nebukadneza> hm!
23:25 < daja77> :P
23:25 < Nebukadneza> i think its funny in the first moment becaus we all hate M$
23:25 < Nebukadneza> in the next moment the brain makes *klink* and you think "what a **** fuck"
23:25 < daja77> guess I got over that first moment soon
23:25 < praenti> Nebukadneza: but only in the really first moment (about a millisecond).
23:26 < daja77> I mean there are really good jokes about ms out there
23:26 * blindcoder will now go to bed
23:27 < blindcoder> gn8 everyone!
23:27 < daja77> n8 blindcoder
23:27 < praenti> gn8 blindcoder
23:27 < Nebukadneza> gn8 blindcoder
23:27 < Nebukadneza> daja77: its not the best joke, but its a little git (really small) true ...
23:28 < Nebukadneza> the way how ms trys to kill linux
23:28 < praenti> this joke is better: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,254875,00.html
23:28 < Nebukadneza> i know it
23:28 < praenti> "apfelsekte"... lol
23:28 < Nebukadneza> :)
23:29 < Nebukadneza> but why is appel a sekte?
23:29 < praenti> dont know ask the author
23:29 < Nebukadneza> :)
23:29 < daja77> you don't know that, it is obvious
23:29 * Nebukadneza *dreams of a G5*
23:29 < daja77> haha nightmares
23:30 < Nebukadneza> why?
23:30 * praenti wants a iBook
23:30 < praenti> with linux
23:30 < Nebukadneza> praenti: or this way ...
23:30 * daja77 wants opterons
23:30 < Nebukadneza> or a tablet like fake
23:30 * Nebukadneza *dreams of a working mosix*
23:30 < praenti> ok. i will go to bed
23:30 < daja77> fake is a tablet, that explains a lot
23:30 < owl> fake is a tablet? *rofl*
23:30 < praenti> gn8 all
23:30 < daja77> n8 praenti
23:30 < owl> gn8 praenti
23:31 < praenti> *rofl*
23:31 < daja77> wtf you need mosix for?
23:31 < Nebukadneza> like fake got ...
23:31 < owl> that's a subnotebook
23:31 < Nebukadneza> daja77: all work i do here with linux,networks,etc ... i see it as trainig for later ... to be well trained in a it job ...
23:31 < Nebukadneza> so you have to know such things
23:31 < daja77> mosix, job, huh?
23:31 < Nebukadneza> owl: hmm i know it as "tablet"
23:32 < owl> Nebukadneza: fake 's sony...?
23:32 < daja77> you don't know a lot of things
23:32 < Nebukadneza> daja77: exampel: you work as networkadmin in a big serverport ... one customer wants a cluster
23:32 < Nebukadneza> so
23:32 < Nebukadneza> you need to know that
23:32 < Nebukadneza> owl: jep
23:32 < daja77> then you don't use mosix, never
23:32 < owl> Nebukadneza: nah. i would say its a subnotebook.
23:32 < Nebukadneza> okay ... but beowulf is a bit hard for beginning
23:33 < Nebukadneza> owl: nah ... forget it!
23:33 < daja77> owl: sure it is, don't let you confuse
23:33 < Nebukadneza> then subnote ... *narf*
23:33 < owl> daja77: k ;p
23:33 < owl> Nebukadneza: hahahaha *vbeg*
23:33 < daja77> learn linux without cluster first
23:33 < Nebukadneza> daja77: boff ...
23:34 < Nebukadneza> i think i can work more or less good with linux
23:34 < daja77> *argl*
23:34 < owl> daja77: ack. :p
23:34 < owl> or less good with linux...
23:34 < daja77> Nebukadneza: not if I read your stuff here
23:34 < Nebukadneza> ive made failovers, mailservers, http/ftp, etc
23:34 < Nebukadneza> now i need clusters
23:34 < Nebukadneza> daja77: what EXCATLY do you mean?
23:34 < daja77> but _why_ you all need this crap _here_?
23:35 < daja77> you are offtopic that's all
23:35 < Nebukadneza> argh
23:35 < Nebukadneza> this **** community suck
23:35 < Nebukadneza> all the time anything wron
23:35 < Nebukadneza> g
23:35 < Nebukadneza> this fucking cult like "plenken"
23:36 < daja77> you are laming now ...
23:36 < Nebukadneza> where you are .... evrything is offtopic
23:36 < Nebukadneza> what should we do?
23:36 < Nebukadneza> and then all people say linux got a good community
23:36 < daja77> not joining #flirtline *vbeg*
23:36 < Nebukadneza> that was not funny!
23:37 < owl> flritlisne?
23:37 < Nebukadneza> narf
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23:37 < owl> O_o what was that?
23:38 < daja77> I pissed him off
23:38 < owl> yeah... btu why?
23:39 < daja77> cos he was always complaining about non working stuff which wasn't rock related at all
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23:39 < daja77> hi Mike1
23:39 < Mike1> hi Daniel.
23:39 < rxr> re
23:39 < owl> hi Mike1
23:39 < Mike1> hi all.
23:39 < owl> hi rxr
23:39 < Mike1> :)
23:39 < daja77> hi rxr
23:40 < daja77> good to see you all around
23:40 * Mike1 just a 2.5 - 2.6 merge patch to SE Linux, crossing fingers to get it applied.
23:40 < Mike1> just ent*
23:40 < Mike1> sent* arrgg
23:42 * SMP goes to bed, yes
23:42 < Mike1> good night SMP.
23:42 < daja77> hmm maybe I overreacted a bit ...
23:43 < Mike1> daja77: !?!
23:43 < owl> gn8 SMP
23:43 < Mike1> owlita.
23:44 < owl> Miguel :)
23:55 < rxr> shit I forgot a -noclean option for the new run with my regression tester *fuck*
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