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00:05 < daja77> ah good, I think I'll try a new build too
00:05 < A-Tui> hi all
00:07 < daja77> hi A-Tui
00:10 < A-Tui> hi daja77
00:12 < rxr> even more colored diagram stuff on the regtest page ...
00:19 < daja77> oh rev 898, I was really away long ...
00:31 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:31 < owl> gn8 daja77
01:29 < gomer> re
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01:48 < esden> puhh
01:48 < esden> the patches are getting a form ... that is what I like ;)
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02:21 < esden> ok ... three patches sent to mailinglist ... now bed is calling
02:21 < esden> good night everyone
02:49 < gomer> ich geh pennen - n8
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04:53 < mistik1> You guys ever refill a HP5L toner?
05:00 < mnemoc> ink jet here ;)
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06:25 < mistik1> I never refilled one of the C3909A before, figured it out though
06:25 < mistik1> a toner with 50 pages left plus two full refills was a great deal for $16.51
06:26 < mistik1> now I can go ahead and print the rock DOCs
06:26 < mnemoc> handbook-0.0.4?
06:31 < mnemoc> time to go... gn8 mistik1
06:31 < mistik1> later
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09:00 < cchamilt> Hi all
09:01 < cchamilt> Why is generic still building both kernels?
09:32 < daja77> moin
09:33 < daja77> cchamilt: why not?
09:50 < blindcoder> moin
09:55 < daja77> moin blindcoder
09:59 < SMP> morning
10:01 < daja77> hi SMP
10:01 < blindcoder> something is terribly wrong with the cluster-build...
10:02 < daja77> why
10:02 < blindcoder> the moment the build enters stage 2
10:02 < blindcoder> 2-binutils, to be more exact
10:02 < blindcoder> the Build-Job cerates $root/var/adm/log/2-binutils.err
10:03 < blindcoder> and then returns to its sleep-cycle
10:03 < blindcoder> without feedback to Build-Target
10:03 < daja77> d'oh
10:03 < blindcoder> yes...
10:03 < blindcoder> and 2-binutils.err has 0 Bytes size
10:05 < blindcoder> hmm
10:05 < blindcoder> if I run Builld-Job on the master then it works just fine...
10:05 < daja77> that reminds of reading the ml again ...
10:05 < blindcoder> well, beside that bit from rene about a local source-tree there was nothing new, was there?
10:05 < blindcoder> at least for me ^^
10:06 < daja77> maybe a problem of your cluster?
10:06 < daja77> i havent read it for more than a week
10:06 < blindcoder> oh...
10:07 < daja77> yes ... damn exams
10:09 < daja77> bbl
10:18 < blindcoder> WEE
10:18 < blindcoder> C Compiler cannot create executables!
10:18 * rxr watching a x86_64 ROCK cross-compile ...
10:18 < rxr> re
10:19 < SMP> Moin rxr
10:19 < rxr> hi SMP
10:20 * blindcoder watching a totally broken bootdisk pseud-cross-cluster-build
10:20 < blindcoder> moin rxr
10:23 < rxr> SMP: we will do net-config today's afternoon or evening =
10:24 < SMP> who is 'we'?
10:24 < rxr> you and me ?
10:24 < SMP> ok
10:24 < rxr> cool x86_64 is now at 1-gcc3 ...
10:25 < rxr> s/1/0/ ...
10:25 < SMP> I'm going to try a native s390 build until or on the Camp =)
10:25 * blindcoder currently waiting for Build-Job to reach 2-binutils and lock up and hopefully spit out a useful messag while doing so...
10:26 < blindcoder> ah, 1-e2fsprogs failed... good... then next should be 2-binutils
10:27 < blindcoder> 2-boehm-gc was first... hmm... we'll se...
10:27 < blindcoder> hmm
10:27 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 309: /var/adm/logs/2-boehm-gc.err: No such file or directory
10:31 < blindcoder> that's the cache-file-generator...
10:35 < blindcoder> it fails in qcalc()
10:42 < blindcoder> hmm
10:43 < blindcoder> something seems to be wrong with tools.cross/wrapper/strip
10:44 < blindcoder> *ARGL* I think I found it...
10:48 < rxr> patches are welcome ...
10:49 < blindcoder> I don't think it's really necessary...
10:49 < blindcoder> there was a cat << 'EOT' > <file>
10:49 < blindcoder> ...
10:49 < blindcoder> ...
10:49 < blindcoder> EOT
10:50 < blindcoder> since that completely screwed up syntax-highlighting I removed the ' without double-chicking which led to some $ABC being evaluated and not taken as plain text...
10:50 * blindcoder bangs head repeatedly against the wall
10:58 < owl> moin
10:59 < blindcoder> moin owly
10:59 < daja77> poor wall
10:59 < owl> hi blindy
11:00 < owl> someone wants to fix a broken win98 and win2k?
11:00 < daja77> hi rxr & owl
11:00 * daja77 not
11:00 < owl> hi rxr
11:05 < daja77> oh owl repository
11:06 < owl> daja77: ?
11:07 < daja77> just noticed nothing top worry about
11:07 < daja77> do the rock scripts work with zsh too?
11:08 < owl> daja77: dunno?
11:09 < blindcoder> hmm...
11:09 < daja77> thought you tried it
11:09 < blindcoder> why does it still create cache files?
11:09 < owl> daja77: nah. why should i?
11:10 < daja77> why not
11:11 < owl> daja77: if you want, you can test it. but i won't.
11:11 < daja77> ... yeah forget it
11:12 < daja77> i'll do sometimes
11:12 < owl> k.
11:21 < daja77> damn it, webmin and lesstif not on mirrors and not to be get from orig locations, so I'll build without them
11:38 < blindcoder> rocklinux.org looks... interesting :)
11:40 < daja77> *aaargh* all in red
11:40 < blindcoder> not www.rocklinux.org
11:40 < blindcoder> just http://rocklinux.org/
11:41 < owl> hoeh?
11:42 < daja77> does not exist
11:42 < blindcoder> yes...
11:42 < blindcoder> oh, I have rocklinux.org /etc/hosts ...
11:42 < blindcoder> that's why I get a directory index ^^
11:43 < owl> *g*
11:44 < daja77> lol
11:47 < daja77> apart from the red it is a cool site
11:48 < daja77> really good all I ever wanted to know to reach directly from frontpage
11:49 < blindcoder> I think it's bad.
11:49 < gomer> re
11:50 < blindcoder> on the FP should be either a "What is ROCK Linux" or "ROCK LInux News" and a navigation to the left.
11:50 < blindcoder> Nothing more, nothing less.
11:51 < daja77> well I found lots of useful info in some seconds, hey that's what most people want
11:51 < blindcoder> that's what people who already know what the project is about want to know
11:52 < blindcoder> not what people who don't know anything about it want.
11:52 < daja77> some weeks ago some ppl told me they'd like to use rock but they didn't find the things they wanted to know
11:52 < blindcoder> And for someone who doesn't know what ROCK Linux is, it's really difficult to read through several dozen links on the FP
11:53 < daja77> you could click on introduction
11:53 < blindcoder> yes, but at first you're confronted with dozens of red links (red==eyecatcher)
11:53 < blindcoder> it's just _too_ _much_ for the FP
11:53 < daja77> I already said I don't like the aggressive red
11:54 < daja77> nah just bring to a decent color
11:54 < daja77> well if you think of it as a portal site, the idea is ok imo
11:55 < blindcoder> but rocklinux.net is the portal site
11:55 < daja77> yeah to anything not rock related
11:56 < blindcoder> so if that is a portal site, where is the project site? and no /project/rock20 doesn't really count
11:57 < daja77> a portal for rock
11:58 < blindcoder> yes. and where is the Project Website?
11:58 < blindcoder> or does ROCK only consist of two portals?
11:59 < daja77> what is the important difference?
11:59 < daja77> most project sites look like portals
11:59 < blindcoder> the important difference is that people who want to know what ROCK is won't leave after they had a quick look at the FP
11:59 < blindcoder> really? gimme an example, please.
12:00 < daja77> http://www.gentoo.org/
12:01 < blindcoder> Well, the first thing I see there are News in the big central part.
12:01 < blindcoder> in contrast, ROCK News are a small tiny block on the far right
12:02 < daja77> it is better structured yes, but it is still a portal
12:02 < blindcoder> then information about gentoo itself, installation etc.
12:03 < blindcoder> maybe, but it doesn't make a new user leave again immediately because there's actual _information_ on there
12:03 < daja77> and it doesn't look aggressive
12:03 < blindcoder> yes.
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12:04 < daja77> I just wanted to point out that I like the idea of a portal site to rock, nevertheless the implementation could be improved
12:04 < blindcoder> okay, then we basically meant the same :)
12:05 < daja77> good ;-)
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12:05 < blindcoder> although I wouldn't call it Portal Site but Project Site :-)
12:05 < daja77> ok, well I was referring to portal just because of it's structure
12:06 < blindcoder> I see... Okay, I think I understand now.
12:06 < daja77> okis I am off now
12:06 < daja77> cu
12:06 < blindcoder> bye
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13:14 < fake_> SMP: where did you get an s390??
13:15 -!- fake_ is now known as fake
13:15 < SMP> I got a VM on the IBM LCDS
13:15 < fake> LCDS?
13:16 < SMP> Linux Community Development System
13:19 < SMP> fake: btw. - you can disable mouse emulation for sonypi with 'modprobe sonypi useinput=0'
13:20 < fake> SMP: oh, why would i want that?
13:21 < SMP> because you use sjog that _also_ inject mouse events?!
13:21 < fake> SMP: you've got a point there ;)
13:23 < fake> SMP: i am disconnected for the rest of the day, perfect time to hack in  the missing sonypi events again
13:25 < SMP> do you get Fn keys?
13:31 < fake> SMP: no
13:36 < netrunne1> moin
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13:40 < DeElsasser> bonjour tout le monde
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13:41 < rxr> could someone checkout current svn HEAD andd give it a try on normal plain vanilla x86 ?
13:44 < DeElsasser> hello rxr: das selbe noch mal auf deutsch? ;-)
13:47 < DeElsasser> I don't have my english-french dictionnary here :-(
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13:53 < netrunner> what is that HEAD thing? is that different from just doing svn up?
13:54 < SMP> depends on what revision you are tracking
13:55 < netrunner> SMP: is HEAD just an alias for the latest revision?
14:04 < SMP> in the main branch, yes
14:08 < DeElsasser> SMP: are there others branches?
14:10 < SMP> no, just the -beta tags
14:11 < DeElsasser> It must be the sun, I don't understand what rxr want...
14:11 < gomer> re
14:11 < DeElsasser> re gomer
14:12 * blindcoder back
14:13 < blindcoder> rxr: in svn rev 900 linux2[46] didn't build
14:14 < blindcoder> rxr: the lats in the logs was the output from a `make oldconfig` waiting for input and then aborted
14:14 < blindcoder> I reverted it to an earlier version where it built fine
14:28 < rxr> hm - I just did some changes - and normally it should be fine (running the regression tester on it ..
14:28 < rxr> )
14:32 * netrunner just replaced the bad hd and 
14:33 < netrunner> will start new build now
14:36 < rxr> netrunner: much fun
14:40 < daja77> re
14:42 < DeElsasser> moin daja77
14:43 < daja77> moin DeElsasser
14:43 < daja77> l'Ordinateur@wana.. *rofl*
14:45 * daja77 notes ta do an top10 list of funny mail adresses
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14:54 < rxr> so - the new x86_64 rebuild hits the critical place ...
14:55 * daja77 through the more than 300 mails on rlml
15:00 < rxr> oh - cool
15:00 < rxr> x86_64 progress ...
15:00 < daja77> do yopu have hw to test it
15:00 < daja77> ?
15:01 < rxr> nope - I just added a cross-build test to the regression tester
15:01 < rxr> and had to notice 95% package fails ...
15:01 < rxr> so I started to fix it ...
15:01 < daja77> hmm no reaction form amd?
15:02 < rxr> when I ask AMD for hardware in some days we should have more content on the homepage and it listed in the regression tester with less fails ...
15:02 < rxr> daja77: I asked AMD several times (3?) over the last year - without success - when I ask the contact adress from LT I want to have at least some minimal progress to show ...
15:03 < daja77> good
15:04 < daja77> ok /me trying to do a gnokii package
15:08 < daja77> *lol* funny message after build
15:09 < daja77> ### It is strongly recommended to run:
15:09 < daja77> ### make install
15:09 < daja77> ### now. Otherwise gnokii may not work.
15:10 < blindcoder> why do I fear that htis message has a reason?
15:11 < daja77> well gnokii is a ackage to play with nokia phones, so I guess the had some lusers ...
15:11 < daja77> package
15:11 < Aard> blindcoder: because there are only incompetent gits out there?
15:11 < blindcoder> Aard: ack.
15:12 < daja77> hehe hi Aard
15:12 < Aard> hi daja77 :)
15:13 < daja77> you may even notice the amazing numbers of hash marks, the three linbes above and below I have left out
15:13 < netrunner> the nice thing with automated buils: /me -> sea'n sun :)
15:14 < Aard> netrunner: sun? the yellow, dangerous thing?
15:15 < netrunner> Aard: true, that bad thing that wipes out everythiing from your lcd
15:27 < rxr> the next x86_64 try ...
15:29 < rxr> daja77: btw: it was you that said we'll have a 2.0 at revision 400 ?
15:34 < rxr> blindcoder: around ?
15:36 < daja77> rxr: *gnarf* don't remind me of that
15:36 < daja77> I wouldn't even bet for rev 1000 now
15:36 < blindcoder> rxr: yes
15:37 < rxr> I have some questions for the patch on the list - one second
15:37 < blindcoder> daja77: and I said not before 500 :-)
15:37 < blindcoder> rxr: sure
15:37 < daja77> blindcoder: yeah if we meet irl you get 5 euro from me ...
15:38 < owl> *rofl* a bet?
15:38 < blindcoder> daja77: Maybe I'll be at the DevMeeting
15:38 < rxr> the first patch: the check for the package dir
15:38 < blindcoder> daja77: But I'll settle for a beer :)
15:38 < blindcoder> rxr: yes
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15:38 < daja77> blindcoder: ok ;-)
15:39 < rxr> the package is also true if it is mounted via NFS or so - it is still a directory
15:39 < rxr> or do I miss some magic ?
15:39 < blindcoder> rxr: yes, but usually the build is done in a directory created with ./scripts/Create-Links
15:40 < blindcoder> OTOH, I'm not sure if this is at all necessary. fake pointed me to some nfs options and those seem to have fixed the problem I had
15:40 < rxr> which options ?
15:40 < blindcoder> now the find runs in a few seconds like on a lrocal dir, not 10 minutes...
15:41 < blindcoder> 192.168.0.100:/usr/src/rock-src-2.0.0-rc1       /usr/src/rock-master    nfs     auto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,retry=2,nfsvers=2,intr,timeo=14      0       0
15:41 < rxr> ok - so I skip that match
15:42 < blindcoder> yes
15:42 < rxr> the other change $HOSTNAME to `hostname` does this really make a difference - and why?
15:42 < blindcoder> yes it does... why, I don't know.
15:42 < rxr> the hostname env-variable should reflect the correct one ...
15:42 < blindcoder> moment, I'll demonstrate
15:43 < blindcoder> with ${HOSTNAME}:
15:43 < blindcoder> root@armitage:/usr/src/rock-src# ./scripts/Create-ParaStatus
15:43 < blindcoder> 15:42 2003-07-26:   --- current status ---
15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode)       running on node01 with PID 651
15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode)       running on node02 with PID 653
15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode)       running on node03 with PID 653
15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode)       running on node04 with PID 653
15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-glibc23                 armitage (651) since 14:13 2003-7-26
15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-linux26                 armitage (653) since 15:34 2003-7-26
15:43 < blindcoder> 15:42 2003-07-26:   ----------------------
15:43 < blindcoder> with `hostname`:
15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-glibc23                 node01 (651) since 14:13 2003-7-26
15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-linux26                 node02 (653) since 15:34 2003-7-26
15:45 < rxr> hm
15:45 < blindcoder> I'm not absolutely sure anymore if "running on" was also "armitage" or "nodexx"
15:48 < rxr> the Build-Job is running on the build clients ?
15:49 < blindcoder> yes
15:49 < rxr> maybe you have changed the hostname on this boxes - and not rested the shell you are running the Build-Job in ?
15:49 < blindcoder> I set hostname during installation
15:50 < rxr> what does "echo $HOSTNAME" does give you on the box ?
15:50 < blindcoder> root@armitage:/usr/src/rock-src# ssh node01
15:50 < blindcoder> Last login: Sat Jul 26 15:40:51 2003 from armitage.
15:50 < blindcoder> root@node01:~# echo ${HOSTNAME}
15:50 < blindcoder> node01
15:50 < blindcoder> root@node01:~#
15:50 < blindcoder> hm... but maybe...
15:50 < blindcoder> I have a screenrc with the following content:
15:50 < rxr> yes ?
15:51 < blindcoder> screen -t node01 0 ssh node01 /root/startme default
15:51 < blindcoder> /root/startme does a cd /usr/src/rocknode ; ./scripts/Build-Job -cfg $1 -daemon
15:52 < rxr> you mean the HOSTNAME is incorrectly set by screen in some way ?
15:52 < blindcoder> hmm... I'll check
15:52 < rxr> what is the output if you start Build-Job from a normal shell you are just typing at ?
15:53 < blindcoder> it's "node01"
15:54 < blindcoder> hm... no, it always gives the correct hostname
15:55 < daja77> O_o build in stage 3 ...
15:55 < cchamilt> rehi all
15:56 < cchamilt> why isnt CC set properly in binutils stage 1 in today's svn?
15:56 < rxr> blindcoder: so the patch is not needed ?
15:56 < blindcoder> rxr: yes it is, because in an active build it's still screwed up.
15:57 < rxr> cchamilt: because you might have got one of the few changes that broke some configs
15:57 < rxr> can you try svn up and rebuild ?
15:57 < rxr> (or better post the exact error message first ...)
15:57 < cchamilt> was it a fix for today?
15:58 < blindcoder> rxr: just a moment, I'll revert the patch once and give you some more output to show you
15:58 < rxr> I did some x86 cleanups for x86_64 - for some minutes there was a broken version in svn ...
15:59 < cchamilt> heh
15:59 < cchamilt> ok, I will svn up and retry.  I have a broken svn on that system for some reason...
16:00 < cchamilt> it always says the url is incorrect.  so i will get it using another system.
16:01 < rxr> which url ?
16:01 < blindcoder> just have to wait until either glibc23 or linux26 finishes.
16:04 < cchamilt> the rock url, it works on other systems, so my svn here is just hosed
16:05 < daja77> since when we do have that a long stage ?
16:06 < rxr> the svn:// or http:// - are yo sure you use exaclty the same on both systems ?
16:06 < blindcoder> daja77: ?
16:06 < cchamilt> root@intouch:/var/rock#  svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk
16:06 < cchamilt> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer
16:06 < daja77> stage 3, sorry
16:06 < cchamilt> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme: "http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk"
16:18 < blindcoder> rxr: here with ${HOSTNAME} in Build-Job:
16:18 < blindcoder> 16:14 node01:       finished job '1-glibc23' (ok)
16:18 < blindcoder> 16:14 2003-07-26:   creating new job '1-binutils'
16:18 < blindcoder> 16:14 armitage:     building job '1-binutils' (653) ..
16:18 < blindcoder> Job 1-binutils                armitage (653) since 16:14 2003-7-26
16:20 < rxr> all armitage occurences should be nodeXY ?
16:20 < blindcoder> yes
16:21 < blindcoder> brb, need to reboot new kernel
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16:27 < blindcoder> re
16:28 < rxr> and but how can this be - why are there some node01 in the output ?
16:28 < rxr> and the environment has the correct variable ?
16:29 < blindcoder> yes, it has the correct one.
16:29 < rxr> arghh!!!
16:29 < blindcoder> maybe it's the date command?
16:29 < rxr> the 2.6 kernel builds on x86_64 - but fails with:
16:29 < rxr> !> Root device is (3, 2)
16:29 < rxr> !> Boot sector 512 bytes.
16:29 < rxr> !> Setup is 4735 bytes.
16:29 < rxr> !> System is 2346 kB
16:29 < rxr> !> Kernel: arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage is ready
16:29 < rxr> !> cp: cannot stat `arch/i386/boot/bzImage': No such file o ..
16:29 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux26.out -> 1-linux26.err
16:29 < rxr> == 07/26/03 16:08:24 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux26.
16:30 < blindcoder> hihi
16:30 < daja77> rxr: wrong arch?
16:31 < rxr> nope wrong typo
16:32 < rxr> fixed svn commitred ...
16:32 < daja77> guess the kernel developers have not much hw to test *gg*
16:32 < rxr> nope the ROCK Linux stable maintainer has to less hw to test - this was a typo I just made ...
16:33 < rxr> but this is why I run the regression tester all the time ...
16:33 < daja77> good ;-)
16:33 < rxr> I think I'll add some ARM definitions later
16:33 * rxr thinking to ROCK Linux'ize the Psion Revo ...
16:34 < daja77> and the zaurus ...
16:35 < cchamilt> transmeta target
16:35 < daja77> huh, why a special target for that?
16:35 < cchamilt> i think it is p2 build with crusoe kernel.
16:36 < cchamilt> it took me forever to findout which isa the thing used. transmeta downplays the fact it is only p2(by hiding it)
16:37 < cchamilt> i still am not sure it is full p2
16:38 < cchamilt> if we have k7, etc. why not?
16:38 < daja77> they ever said that they do x86 emulation
16:38 < cchamilt> exactly but it misses sse and ggc3 is heavy on it
16:39 < daja77> k7 is no target
16:39 < cchamilt> not a single graphics program built for p3 works on transmeta.
16:39 < daja77> demand the src
16:39 < daja77> ;-)
16:40 < cchamilt> um yeah excuse me, not k7 - xp, mp 4, thunderbird, and plain athlon...
16:40 < cchamilt> so no k7 :)
16:42 < daja77> this is not a seperate target, but optimisations for an arch
16:42 < cchamilt> might as well make a crusoe patch myself sometime. IF I can prove p2 is what it is.  It is very unclear as they hardly mention which isa extensions crusose has compared to intel.
16:43 < cchamilt> yes, i used inaccurate wording.
16:43 < daja77> afaik we have crusoe optimisation in rock, no?
16:43 < cchamilt> no
16:43 < daja77> at least you can choose iot in Config
16:43 < cchamilt> i may be the only one around with one.
16:44 < cchamilt> not unless rxr just put it in this hour...
16:44 < daja77> hmm ...
16:45 < cchamilt> this is why i brought it up
16:52 < esden> good morning everyone ;)
16:53 < daja77> hey esden
16:54 < blindcoder> esden: erdis trying to reach you...
16:55 < owl> h esden
16:55 < owl> hi
16:56 < cchamilt> hi esden
16:57 < cchamilt> hmm, is there a mirror of lesstif available?
16:57 < cchamilt> lesstif main site is down and we dont have a copy on the mirrors...
16:59 < esden> blindcoder: I know .... I called him already
17:00 < blindcoder> good
17:00 < daja77> cchamilt: yepp I just don't build it atm
17:02 * daja77 wondering if this build will be good enough for official rc1 isos
17:02 < esden> how can I generate an explicite EOF with echo?
17:02 < esden> what character is it?
17:03 < daja77> google for an ascii table
17:05 < esden> thanks daja77 ... X_X
17:06 < daja77> np
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17:27 < SMP> I need lesstif-0.93.44.tar.bz2 - someone have it?
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17:29 < cchamilt> smp: heh, no
17:29 < daja77> hmm which categorie you would apply to a phone tool
17:30 < daja77> extra/network?
17:33 < cchamilt> that or multimedia... not the best categories for all things
17:33 < daja77> extra/tool?
17:35 < cchamilt> anybody start a build in the last few hours?
17:35 < daja77> yepp
17:35 < cchamilt> appears the x86-64 changes have broke the kernel.
17:36 < cchamilt> well no
17:36 < daja77> hmm I started with rev 898 so no trouble
17:36 < cchamilt> it appears that my p3 arch target choose to build with x86-64 gcc
17:37 < cchamilt> this is 909
17:37 < cchamilt> it has a new 32/64 bit config option in config
17:37 < cchamilt> it must be hardwired 64 somewhere
17:38 < daja77> hmm in 901 it is not
17:39 < cchamilt> i am running config again and rebuild just to make sure
17:40 < daja77> hmm ok package builds but i am not satisfied with it
17:45 < daja77> ok checking out later
17:45 < daja77> bbl
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18:25 < daja77> blindcoder: still here?
18:28 < esden> daja77: nope he is no more online
18:29 < owl> hi esden
18:29 < esden> and he will be away till tomorrow
18:29 < esden> hi owl 
18:29 < esden> nice, at least my xircom card is finally working on the 2.6.0-test1 kernel
18:30 < esden> but the wlan card is still not really recognized ...
18:30 < esden> and the mouspad is not worting either
18:30 < owl> mousepad?
18:30 < daja77> esden: maybe you can help me out
18:30 < esden> daja77: dunno ... what is your problem?
18:31 < daja77> well the gnokii package is a typical autoconf package, so far so good
18:31 < daja77> the package contains a sample config which is included in the src package but not copied to /etc
18:32 < daja77> what would be the cleanest way to do this
18:32 < esden> use one of the hooks ... 
18:32 < esden> let me check the name ...
18:33 < esden> use the postinstall hook
18:33 * daja77 checking
18:34 < esden> and add the cp command there
18:45 < cchamilt> hmm false alarm, must have been the 32 flag missing, linux24 stage 1 builds now
18:57 < esden> cu all .. cu tomorrow
19:01 < rxr> daja77:
19:01 < rxr> hook_add postmake 3 "cp the-dof $sysconfdir/"
19:02 < rxr> if you only need this line add it into the .desc file as [O] tag ;-)
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19:06 < SMP> rxr: what about the network stuff? I'm already getting tired again ;-(
19:06 < netrunner> argl, kernels don't build in my rev, updating :/
19:08 < rxr> SMP: yes - do we want to phone? Or just chat?
19:11 < SMP> phone - this beta6 setup is too flaky. how about at 8 o'clock - I'd like to eat before
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19:12 < rxr> SMP: ok - just phoning anyway - see you in some minutes
19:13 < dreamind> Hi
19:15 < SMP> rxr: btw - I need the current lesstif sources, but it's not yet on the mirrors and the original site is down - do you have them?
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19:42 < rxr> SMP: I also do not have the source - otherwise it would be on the mirror - since my server is the source for the ROCK-20 official sources ...
19:42 < rxr> I'll search for it now ...
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19:43 < SMP> rxr: well we have a chksum so the must be somewhere ;)
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19:47 < rxr> SMP: done - will be on the master server in a few seconds - and the new URL in svn after that
19:47 < rxr> it is on sourceforge now ... ;-)
19:48 < rxr> webmin has a wrong checksum ... :-(
19:49 < rxr> committed
19:49 < rxr> or - not - mom
19:54 < rxr> so now
19:55 < SMP> you forgot the braindead Sourceforge mirror mechanism :)
19:55 < rxr> hae ?
19:55 < SMP> the url yields only the 'please chose a mirror' page
19:55 < rxr> sorry
19:56 < rxr> done
20:02 < SMP> arrgh
20:02 < daja77> re
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20:03 < daja77> rxr: thx
20:06 < daja77> hey it works
20:08 < rxr> daja77: what works ?
20:08 < SMP> rxr: ok, let's get it on .. msg me your phone no ?
20:09 < daja77> that hook adding as you described it
20:09 < rxr> daja77: ah - ok
20:10 * daja77 fetching phone cable and checking if his model after 2 years is finally supported
20:16 < daja77> d'oh /dev/ttyS0 is?
20:17 < daja77> /dev/tts/0
20:17 < Aard> daja77: ??
20:17 < daja77> ?
20:17 < daja77> for devfs I mean
20:18 < Aard> uh. I just notice that I haven't used any serial devices since my switch to devfs
20:19 < daja77> damn permission denied
20:20 < daja77> ah i am just braindead ...
20:21 < daja77> hmm seems to work ...
20:23 < daja77> cool I have now Aard's phone number on my screen
20:23 < Aard> daja77: ???
20:23 < daja77> reading phone memory via gnokii
20:23 < Aard> ah.
20:23 < Aard> mh, I could try again if OpenObex works with s45 now
20:23 < daja77> do you mind if I write you a test sms
20:24 < Aard> daja77: no problem
20:29 < Aard> daja77: got a sms from you
20:29 < daja77> now with a laptop to a conference and stealing phone entries *gg*
20:29 < daja77> ;-)
20:30 < daja77> good thing is this costs me nothing
20:30 < Aard> daja77: much more fun would be _deleting_ phone entries :)
20:30 < daja77> hehe
20:30 < daja77> shouln't be that hard
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21:59 * daja77 notes that pages with mobile phone logos or tunes behave like pron sites
22:00 < Aard> daja77: ?
22:01 < daja77> just google for handy logos gratis and klick around that pages
22:01 < daja77> and guess what one of them redirected me to a pron site
22:03 < daja77> hehe and you can check what is in their top 10 logos
22:05 < daja77> I just wanna download a logo to test if gnokii can add it to my phone without crashing it, but I don't wanna pay for such crap >_<
22:06 < Aard> daja77: simlpy upload a bitmap? :)
22:06 < daja77> no different formats for the phones
22:09 < daja77> wtf www.nokia.de *aaaargl*
22:10 < Aard> daja77: I don't know what you need for nokia-phones. s45 can handle simple windows-bitmaps
22:10 < daja77> maybe I can figure it out
22:11 < daja77> if it just bmps I don't get it, how people can be teased to pay for that shit
22:13 < Aard> daja77: because there are only braindead assholes out there
22:14 < daja77> hehe you can download a modem script for lotus for my mobile from nokia
22:18 < daja77> cool, gnokii has a logo editor, hehe that'll be really personalized
22:19 < Aard> daja77: be careful, or I'll make you use lotus notes
22:20 < daja77> you are evil
22:20 < Aard> Yes, they told me that already.
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22:30 < LocalHero> Hi all
22:34 < daja77> hi LocalHero
22:36 < LocalHero> Whats up with all the drock mirrors?
22:37 < LocalHero> uhh, i mean rock 2.0 :)
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22:48 < rxr> re
22:49 < daja77> re rxr
22:50 < LocalHero> re rxr (still dont know what re is :))
22:50 < daja77> re(turns)
22:54 < LocalHero> ahh :)
22:58 < LocalHero> rxr, whats up with the mirrors? I thought that i should manually download beta7 so that people dont download old versions
23:18 < rxr> there is no official -beta7 image - it was just a source milestone release before the -rc1 that we will release in a few days ...
23:20 < daja77> 1hmm seems that my machine is faster with compiling after i toggled bios to high speed settings ;-)
23:21 < rxr> it is pointless to just generate whatever binary we can when they are not tested and important stuff in the queue ...
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23:44 < rxr> my iBook and the RS/6000 are now building in a cluster ...
23:44 < daja77> cool
23:45 < daja77> hope i can do some more rock work in the next weeks ...
23:45 < rxr> and yes - I can reproduce the status hostname oddity blindcoder reported ...
23:45 < daja77> strange is my mail still not on the list ...
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