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--- Log opened Sat Jul 26 00:00:26 2003 --- Day changed Sat Jul 26 2003 00:05 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:05 < daja77> ah good, I think I'll try a new build too 00:05 < A-Tui> hi all 00:07 < daja77> hi A-Tui 00:10 < A-Tui> hi daja77 00:12 < rxr> even more colored diagram stuff on the regtest page ... 00:19 < daja77> oh rev 898, I was really away long ... 00:31 < daja77> gn8 you all 00:31 < owl> gn8 daja77 01:29 < gomer> re 01:29 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090AE85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:42 -!- knoti [~knoti@p508B0F63.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:43 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909D7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:48 < esden> puhh 01:48 < esden> the patches are getting a form ... that is what I like ;) 01:56 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 02:21 < esden> ok ... three patches sent to mailinglist ... now bed is calling 02:21 < esden> good night everyone 02:49 < gomer> ich geh pennen - n8 04:53 -!- fake_ [~fake@pD9E4DED5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:53 < mistik1> You guys ever refill a HP5L toner? 05:00 < mnemoc> ink jet here ;) 05:09 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DB27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:25 < mistik1> I never refilled one of the C3909A before, figured it out though 06:25 < mistik1> a toner with 50 pages left plus two full refills was a great deal for $16.51 06:26 < mistik1> now I can go ahead and print the rock DOCs 06:26 < mnemoc> handbook-0.0.4? 06:31 < mnemoc> time to go... gn8 mistik1 06:31 < mistik1> later 08:25 -!- jax [uhupcr@moose.cyberport.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:27 -!- jax [uhupcr@moose.cyberport.net] has left #rocklinux () 09:00 < cchamilt> Hi all 09:01 < cchamilt> Why is generic still building both kernels? 09:32 < daja77> moin 09:33 < daja77> cchamilt: why not? 09:50 < blindcoder> moin 09:55 < daja77> moin blindcoder 09:59 < SMP> morning 10:01 < daja77> hi SMP 10:01 < blindcoder> something is terribly wrong with the cluster-build... 10:02 < daja77> why 10:02 < blindcoder> the moment the build enters stage 2 10:02 < blindcoder> 2-binutils, to be more exact 10:02 < blindcoder> the Build-Job cerates $root/var/adm/log/2-binutils.err 10:03 < blindcoder> and then returns to its sleep-cycle 10:03 < blindcoder> without feedback to Build-Target 10:03 < daja77> d'oh 10:03 < blindcoder> yes... 10:03 < blindcoder> and 2-binutils.err has 0 Bytes size 10:05 < blindcoder> hmm 10:05 < blindcoder> if I run Builld-Job on the master then it works just fine... 10:05 < daja77> that reminds of reading the ml again ... 10:05 < blindcoder> well, beside that bit from rene about a local source-tree there was nothing new, was there? 10:05 < blindcoder> at least for me ^^ 10:06 < daja77> maybe a problem of your cluster? 10:06 < daja77> i havent read it for more than a week 10:06 < blindcoder> oh... 10:07 < daja77> yes ... damn exams 10:09 < daja77> bbl 10:18 < blindcoder> WEE 10:18 < blindcoder> C Compiler cannot create executables! 10:18 * rxr watching a x86_64 ROCK cross-compile ... 10:18 < rxr> re 10:19 < SMP> Moin rxr 10:19 < rxr> hi SMP 10:20 * blindcoder watching a totally broken bootdisk pseud-cross-cluster-build 10:20 < blindcoder> moin rxr 10:23 < rxr> SMP: we will do net-config today's afternoon or evening = 10:24 < SMP> who is 'we'? 10:24 < rxr> you and me ? 10:24 < SMP> ok 10:24 < rxr> cool x86_64 is now at 1-gcc3 ... 10:25 < rxr> s/1/0/ ... 10:25 < SMP> I'm going to try a native s390 build until or on the Camp =) 10:25 * blindcoder currently waiting for Build-Job to reach 2-binutils and lock up and hopefully spit out a useful messag while doing so... 10:26 < blindcoder> ah, 1-e2fsprogs failed... good... then next should be 2-binutils 10:27 < blindcoder> 2-boehm-gc was first... hmm... we'll se... 10:27 < blindcoder> hmm 10:27 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 309: /var/adm/logs/2-boehm-gc.err: No such file or directory 10:31 < blindcoder> that's the cache-file-generator... 10:35 < blindcoder> it fails in qcalc() 10:42 < blindcoder> hmm 10:43 < blindcoder> something seems to be wrong with tools.cross/wrapper/strip 10:44 < blindcoder> *ARGL* I think I found it... 10:48 < rxr> patches are welcome ... 10:49 < blindcoder> I don't think it's really necessary... 10:49 < blindcoder> there was a cat << 'EOT' > <file> 10:49 < blindcoder> ... 10:49 < blindcoder> ... 10:49 < blindcoder> EOT 10:50 < blindcoder> since that completely screwed up syntax-highlighting I removed the ' without double-chicking which led to some $ABC being evaluated and not taken as plain text... 10:50 * blindcoder bangs head repeatedly against the wall 10:58 < owl> moin 10:59 < blindcoder> moin owly 10:59 < daja77> poor wall 10:59 < owl> hi blindy 11:00 < owl> someone wants to fix a broken win98 and win2k? 11:00 < daja77> hi rxr & owl 11:00 * daja77 not 11:00 < owl> hi rxr 11:05 < daja77> oh owl repository 11:06 < owl> daja77: ? 11:07 < daja77> just noticed nothing top worry about 11:07 < daja77> do the rock scripts work with zsh too? 11:08 < owl> daja77: dunno? 11:09 < blindcoder> hmm... 11:09 < daja77> thought you tried it 11:09 < blindcoder> why does it still create cache files? 11:09 < owl> daja77: nah. why should i? 11:10 < daja77> why not 11:11 < owl> daja77: if you want, you can test it. but i won't. 11:11 < daja77> ... yeah forget it 11:12 < daja77> i'll do sometimes 11:12 < owl> k. 11:21 < daja77> damn it, webmin and lesstif not on mirrors and not to be get from orig locations, so I'll build without them 11:38 < blindcoder> rocklinux.org looks... interesting :) 11:40 < daja77> *aaargh* all in red 11:40 < blindcoder> not www.rocklinux.org 11:40 < blindcoder> just https://rocklinux.org/ 11:41 < owl> hoeh? 11:42 < daja77> does not exist 11:42 < blindcoder> yes... 11:42 < blindcoder> oh, I have rocklinux.org /etc/hosts ... 11:42 < blindcoder> that's why I get a directory index ^^ 11:43 < owl> *g* 11:44 < daja77> lol 11:47 < daja77> apart from the red it is a cool site 11:48 < daja77> really good all I ever wanted to know to reach directly from frontpage 11:49 < blindcoder> I think it's bad. 11:49 < gomer> re 11:50 < blindcoder> on the FP should be either a "What is ROCK Linux" or "ROCK LInux News" and a navigation to the left. 11:50 < blindcoder> Nothing more, nothing less. 11:51 < daja77> well I found lots of useful info in some seconds, hey that's what most people want 11:51 < blindcoder> that's what people who already know what the project is about want to know 11:52 < blindcoder> not what people who don't know anything about it want. 11:52 < daja77> some weeks ago some ppl told me they'd like to use rock but they didn't find the things they wanted to know 11:52 < blindcoder> And for someone who doesn't know what ROCK Linux is, it's really difficult to read through several dozen links on the FP 11:53 < daja77> you could click on introduction 11:53 < blindcoder> yes, but at first you're confronted with dozens of red links (red==eyecatcher) 11:53 < blindcoder> it's just _too_ _much_ for the FP 11:53 < daja77> I already said I don't like the aggressive red 11:54 < daja77> nah just bring to a decent color 11:54 < daja77> well if you think of it as a portal site, the idea is ok imo 11:55 < blindcoder> but www.rocklinux.net is the portal site 11:55 < daja77> yeah to anything not rock related 11:56 < blindcoder> so if that is a portal site, where is the project site? and no /project/rock20 doesn't really count 11:57 < daja77> a portal for rock 11:58 < blindcoder> yes. and where is the Project Website? 11:58 < blindcoder> or does ROCK only consist of two portals? 11:59 < daja77> what is the important difference? 11:59 < daja77> most project sites look like portals 11:59 < blindcoder> the important difference is that people who want to know what ROCK is won't leave after they had a quick look at the FP 11:59 < blindcoder> really? gimme an example, please. 12:00 < daja77> https://www.gentoo.org/ 12:01 < blindcoder> Well, the first thing I see there are News in the big central part. 12:01 < blindcoder> in contrast, ROCK News are a small tiny block on the far right 12:02 < daja77> it is better structured yes, but it is still a portal 12:02 < blindcoder> then information about gentoo itself, installation etc. 12:03 < blindcoder> maybe, but it doesn't make a new user leave again immediately because there's actual _information_ on there 12:03 < daja77> and it doesn't look aggressive 12:03 < blindcoder> yes. 12:03 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:04 < daja77> I just wanted to point out that I like the idea of a portal site to rock, nevertheless the implementation could be improved 12:04 < blindcoder> okay, then we basically meant the same :) 12:05 < daja77> good ;-) 12:05 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 12:05 < blindcoder> although I wouldn't call it Portal Site but Project Site :-) 12:05 < daja77> ok, well I was referring to portal just because of it's structure 12:06 < blindcoder> I see... Okay, I think I understand now. 12:06 < daja77> okis I am off now 12:06 < daja77> cu 12:06 < blindcoder> bye 12:11 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:22 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 13:14 < fake_> SMP: where did you get an s390?? 13:15 -!- fake_ is now known as fake 13:15 < SMP> I got a VM on the IBM LCDS 13:15 < fake> LCDS? 13:16 < SMP> Linux Community Development System 13:19 < SMP> fake: btw. - you can disable mouse emulation for sonypi with 'modprobe sonypi useinput=0' 13:20 < fake> SMP: oh, why would i want that? 13:21 < SMP> because you use sjog that _also_ inject mouse events?! 13:21 < fake> SMP: you've got a point there ;) 13:23 < fake> SMP: i am disconnected for the rest of the day, perfect time to hack in the missing sonypi events again 13:25 < SMP> do you get Fn keys? 13:31 < fake> SMP: no 13:36 < netrunne1> moin 13:36 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 13:39 -!- DeElsasser [~Eric@ANancy-110-1-4-197.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < DeElsasser> bonjour tout le monde 13:41 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:41 < rxr> could someone checkout current svn HEAD andd give it a try on normal plain vanilla x86 ? 13:44 < DeElsasser> hello rxr: das selbe noch mal auf deutsch? ;-) 13:47 < DeElsasser> I don't have my english-french dictionnary here :-( 13:47 -!- ringo78 [~ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 13:53 < netrunner> what is that HEAD thing? is that different from just doing svn up? 13:54 < SMP> depends on what revision you are tracking 13:55 < netrunner> SMP: is HEAD just an alias for the latest revision? 14:04 < SMP> in the main branch, yes 14:08 < DeElsasser> SMP: are there others branches? 14:10 < SMP> no, just the -beta tags 14:11 < DeElsasser> It must be the sun, I don't understand what rxr want... 14:11 < gomer> re 14:11 < DeElsasser> re gomer 14:12 * blindcoder back 14:13 < blindcoder> rxr: in svn rev 900 linux2[46] didn't build 14:14 < blindcoder> rxr: the lats in the logs was the output from a `make oldconfig` waiting for input and then aborted 14:14 < blindcoder> I reverted it to an earlier version where it built fine 14:28 < rxr> hm - I just did some changes - and normally it should be fine (running the regression tester on it .. 14:28 < rxr> ) 14:32 * netrunner just replaced the bad hd and 14:33 < netrunner> will start new build now 14:36 < rxr> netrunner: much fun 14:40 < daja77> re 14:42 < DeElsasser> moin daja77 14:43 < daja77> moin DeElsasser 14:43 < daja77> l'Ordinateur@wana.. *rofl* 14:45 * daja77 notes ta do an top10 list of funny mail adresses 14:52 -!- DeElsasser [~Eric@ANancy-110-1-4-197.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030313]") 14:54 < rxr> so - the new x86_64 rebuild hits the critical place ... 14:55 * daja77 through the more than 300 mails on rlml 15:00 < rxr> oh - cool 15:00 < rxr> x86_64 progress ... 15:00 < daja77> do yopu have hw to test it 15:00 < daja77> ? 15:01 < rxr> nope - I just added a cross-build test to the regression tester 15:01 < rxr> and had to notice 95% package fails ... 15:01 < rxr> so I started to fix it ... 15:01 < daja77> hmm no reaction form amd? 15:02 < rxr> when I ask AMD for hardware in some days we should have more content on the homepage and it listed in the regression tester with less fails ... 15:02 < rxr> daja77: I asked AMD several times (3?) over the last year - without success - when I ask the contact adress from LT I want to have at least some minimal progress to show ... 15:03 < daja77> good 15:04 < daja77> ok /me trying to do a gnokii package 15:08 < daja77> *lol* funny message after build 15:09 < daja77> ### It is strongly recommended to run: 15:09 < daja77> ### make install 15:09 < daja77> ### now. Otherwise gnokii may not work. 15:10 < blindcoder> why do I fear that htis message has a reason? 15:11 < daja77> well gnokii is a ackage to play with nokia phones, so I guess the had some lusers ... 15:11 < daja77> package 15:11 < Aard> blindcoder: because there are only incompetent gits out there? 15:11 < blindcoder> Aard: ack. 15:12 < daja77> hehe hi Aard 15:12 < Aard> hi daja77 :) 15:13 < daja77> you may even notice the amazing numbers of hash marks, the three linbes above and below I have left out 15:13 < netrunner> the nice thing with automated buils: /me -> sea'n sun :) 15:14 < Aard> netrunner: sun? the yellow, dangerous thing? 15:15 < netrunner> Aard: true, that bad thing that wipes out everythiing from your lcd 15:27 < rxr> the next x86_64 try ... 15:29 < rxr> daja77: btw: it was you that said we'll have a 2.0 at revision 400 ? 15:34 < rxr> blindcoder: around ? 15:36 < daja77> rxr: *gnarf* don't remind me of that 15:36 < daja77> I wouldn't even bet for rev 1000 now 15:36 < blindcoder> rxr: yes 15:37 < rxr> I have some questions for the patch on the list - one second 15:37 < blindcoder> daja77: and I said not before 500 :-) 15:37 < blindcoder> rxr: sure 15:37 < daja77> blindcoder: yeah if we meet irl you get 5 euro from me ... 15:38 < owl> *rofl* a bet? 15:38 < blindcoder> daja77: Maybe I'll be at the DevMeeting 15:38 < rxr> the first patch: the check for the package dir 15:38 < blindcoder> daja77: But I'll settle for a beer :) 15:38 < blindcoder> rxr: yes 15:38 -!- msp[] [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:38 < daja77> blindcoder: ok ;-) 15:39 < rxr> the package is also true if it is mounted via NFS or so - it is still a directory 15:39 < rxr> or do I miss some magic ? 15:39 < blindcoder> rxr: yes, but usually the build is done in a directory created with ./scripts/Create-Links 15:40 < blindcoder> OTOH, I'm not sure if this is at all necessary. fake pointed me to some nfs options and those seem to have fixed the problem I had 15:40 < rxr> which options ? 15:40 < blindcoder> now the find runs in a few seconds like on a lrocal dir, not 10 minutes... 15:41 < blindcoder> 192.168.0.100:/usr/src/rock-src-2.0.0-rc1 /usr/src/rock-master nfs auto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,retry=2,nfsvers=2,intr,timeo=14 0 0 15:41 < rxr> ok - so I skip that match 15:42 < blindcoder> yes 15:42 < rxr> the other change $HOSTNAME to `hostname` does this really make a difference - and why? 15:42 < blindcoder> yes it does... why, I don't know. 15:42 < rxr> the hostname env-variable should reflect the correct one ... 15:42 < blindcoder> moment, I'll demonstrate 15:43 < blindcoder> with ${HOSTNAME}: 15:43 < blindcoder> root@armitage:/usr/src/rock-src# ./scripts/Create-ParaStatus 15:43 < blindcoder> 15:42 2003-07-26: --- current status --- 15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode) running on node01 with PID 651 15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode) running on node02 with PID 653 15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode) running on node03 with PID 653 15:43 < blindcoder> Build-Job (daemon mode) running on node04 with PID 653 15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-glibc23 armitage (651) since 14:13 2003-7-26 15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-linux26 armitage (653) since 15:34 2003-7-26 15:43 < blindcoder> 15:42 2003-07-26: ---------------------- 15:43 < blindcoder> with `hostname`: 15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-glibc23 node01 (651) since 14:13 2003-7-26 15:43 < blindcoder> Job 1-linux26 node02 (653) since 15:34 2003-7-26 15:45 < rxr> hm 15:45 < blindcoder> I'm not absolutely sure anymore if "running on" was also "armitage" or "nodexx" 15:48 < rxr> the Build-Job is running on the build clients ? 15:49 < blindcoder> yes 15:49 < rxr> maybe you have changed the hostname on this boxes - and not rested the shell you are running the Build-Job in ? 15:49 < blindcoder> I set hostname during installation 15:50 < rxr> what does "echo $HOSTNAME" does give you on the box ? 15:50 < blindcoder> root@armitage:/usr/src/rock-src# ssh node01 15:50 < blindcoder> Last login: Sat Jul 26 15:40:51 2003 from armitage. 15:50 < blindcoder> root@node01:~# echo ${HOSTNAME} 15:50 < blindcoder> node01 15:50 < blindcoder> root@node01:~# 15:50 < blindcoder> hm... but maybe... 15:50 < blindcoder> I have a screenrc with the following content: 15:50 < rxr> yes ? 15:51 < blindcoder> screen -t node01 0 ssh node01 /root/startme default 15:51 < blindcoder> /root/startme does a cd /usr/src/rocknode ; ./scripts/Build-Job -cfg $1 -daemon 15:52 < rxr> you mean the HOSTNAME is incorrectly set by screen in some way ? 15:52 < blindcoder> hmm... I'll check 15:52 < rxr> what is the output if you start Build-Job from a normal shell you are just typing at ? 15:53 < blindcoder> it's "node01" 15:54 < blindcoder> hm... no, it always gives the correct hostname 15:55 < daja77> O_o build in stage 3 ... 15:55 < cchamilt> rehi all 15:56 < cchamilt> why isnt CC set properly in binutils stage 1 in today's svn? 15:56 < rxr> blindcoder: so the patch is not needed ? 15:56 < blindcoder> rxr: yes it is, because in an active build it's still screwed up. 15:57 < rxr> cchamilt: because you might have got one of the few changes that broke some configs 15:57 < rxr> can you try svn up and rebuild ? 15:57 < rxr> (or better post the exact error message first ...) 15:57 < cchamilt> was it a fix for today? 15:58 < blindcoder> rxr: just a moment, I'll revert the patch once and give you some more output to show you 15:58 < rxr> I did some x86 cleanups for x86_64 - for some minutes there was a broken version in svn ... 15:59 < cchamilt> heh 15:59 < cchamilt> ok, I will svn up and retry. I have a broken svn on that system for some reason... 16:00 < cchamilt> it always says the url is incorrect. so i will get it using another system. 16:01 < rxr> which url ? 16:01 < blindcoder> just have to wait until either glibc23 or linux26 finishes. 16:04 < cchamilt> the rock url, it works on other systems, so my svn here is just hosed 16:05 < daja77> since when we do have that a long stage ? 16:06 < rxr> the svn:// or https:// - are yo sure you use exaclty the same on both systems ? 16:06 < blindcoder> daja77: ? 16:06 < cchamilt> root@intouch:/var/rock# svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk 16:06 < cchamilt> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer 16:06 < daja77> stage 3, sorry 16:06 < cchamilt> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme: "https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk" 16:18 < blindcoder> rxr: here with ${HOSTNAME} in Build-Job: 16:18 < blindcoder> 16:14 node01: finished job '1-glibc23' (ok) 16:18 < blindcoder> 16:14 2003-07-26: creating new job '1-binutils' 16:18 < blindcoder> 16:14 armitage: building job '1-binutils' (653) .. 16:18 < blindcoder> Job 1-binutils armitage (653) since 16:14 2003-7-26 16:20 < rxr> all armitage occurences should be nodeXY ? 16:20 < blindcoder> yes 16:21 < blindcoder> brb, need to reboot new kernel 16:21 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FDE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("new kernel") 16:27 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FFEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 < blindcoder> re 16:28 < rxr> and but how can this be - why are there some node01 in the output ? 16:28 < rxr> and the environment has the correct variable ? 16:29 < blindcoder> yes, it has the correct one. 16:29 < rxr> arghh!!! 16:29 < blindcoder> maybe it's the date command? 16:29 < rxr> the 2.6 kernel builds on x86_64 - but fails with: 16:29 < rxr> !> Root device is (3, 2) 16:29 < rxr> !> Boot sector 512 bytes. 16:29 < rxr> !> Setup is 4735 bytes. 16:29 < rxr> !> System is 2346 kB 16:29 < rxr> !> Kernel: arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage is ready 16:29 < rxr> !> cp: cannot stat `arch/i386/boot/bzImage': No such file o .. 16:29 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux26.out -> 1-linux26.err 16:29 < rxr> == 07/26/03 16:08:24 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux26. 16:30 < blindcoder> hihi 16:30 < daja77> rxr: wrong arch? 16:31 < rxr> nope wrong typo 16:32 < rxr> fixed svn commitred ... 16:32 < daja77> guess the kernel developers have not much hw to test *gg* 16:32 < rxr> nope the ROCK Linux stable maintainer has to less hw to test - this was a typo I just made ... 16:33 < rxr> but this is why I run the regression tester all the time ... 16:33 < daja77> good ;-) 16:33 < rxr> I think I'll add some ARM definitions later 16:33 * rxr thinking to ROCK Linux'ize the Psion Revo ... 16:34 < daja77> and the zaurus ... 16:35 < cchamilt> transmeta target 16:35 < daja77> huh, why a special target for that? 16:35 < cchamilt> i think it is p2 build with crusoe kernel. 16:36 < cchamilt> it took me forever to findout which isa the thing used. transmeta downplays the fact it is only p2(by hiding it) 16:37 < cchamilt> i still am not sure it is full p2 16:38 < cchamilt> if we have k7, etc. why not? 16:38 < daja77> they ever said that they do x86 emulation 16:38 < cchamilt> exactly but it misses sse and ggc3 is heavy on it 16:39 < daja77> k7 is no target 16:39 < cchamilt> not a single graphics program built for p3 works on transmeta. 16:39 < daja77> demand the src 16:39 < daja77> ;-) 16:40 < cchamilt> um yeah excuse me, not k7 - xp, mp 4, thunderbird, and plain athlon... 16:40 < cchamilt> so no k7 :) 16:42 < daja77> this is not a seperate target, but optimisations for an arch 16:42 < cchamilt> might as well make a crusoe patch myself sometime. IF I can prove p2 is what it is. It is very unclear as they hardly mention which isa extensions crusose has compared to intel. 16:43 < cchamilt> yes, i used inaccurate wording. 16:43 < daja77> afaik we have crusoe optimisation in rock, no? 16:43 < cchamilt> no 16:43 < daja77> at least you can choose iot in Config 16:43 < cchamilt> i may be the only one around with one. 16:44 < cchamilt> not unless rxr just put it in this hour... 16:44 < daja77> hmm ... 16:45 < cchamilt> this is why i brought it up 16:52 < esden> good morning everyone ;) 16:53 < daja77> hey esden 16:54 < blindcoder> esden: erdis trying to reach you... 16:55 < owl> h esden 16:55 < owl> hi 16:56 < cchamilt> hi esden 16:57 < cchamilt> hmm, is there a mirror of lesstif available? 16:57 < cchamilt> lesstif main site is down and we dont have a copy on the mirrors... 16:59 < esden> blindcoder: I know .... I called him already 17:00 < blindcoder> good 17:00 < daja77> cchamilt: yepp I just don't build it atm 17:02 * daja77 wondering if this build will be good enough for official rc1 isos 17:02 < esden> how can I generate an explicite EOF with echo? 17:02 < esden> what character is it? 17:03 < daja77> google for an ascii table 17:05 < esden> thanks daja77 ... X_X 17:06 < daja77> np 17:22 -!- cleverdra [~shadow@205.247.28.94] has joined #rocklinux 17:27 < SMP> I need lesstif-0.93.44.tar.bz2 - someone have it? 17:28 -!- cleverdra [~shadow@205.247.28.94] has left #rocklinux () 17:29 < cchamilt> smp: heh, no 17:29 < daja77> hmm which categorie you would apply to a phone tool 17:30 < daja77> extra/network? 17:33 < cchamilt> that or multimedia... not the best categories for all things 17:33 < daja77> extra/tool? 17:35 < cchamilt> anybody start a build in the last few hours? 17:35 < daja77> yepp 17:35 < cchamilt> appears the x86-64 changes have broke the kernel. 17:36 < cchamilt> well no 17:36 < daja77> hmm I started with rev 898 so no trouble 17:36 < cchamilt> it appears that my p3 arch target choose to build with x86-64 gcc 17:37 < cchamilt> this is 909 17:37 < cchamilt> it has a new 32/64 bit config option in config 17:37 < cchamilt> it must be hardwired 64 somewhere 17:38 < daja77> hmm in 901 it is not 17:39 < cchamilt> i am running config again and rebuild just to make sure 17:40 < daja77> hmm ok package builds but i am not satisfied with it 17:45 < daja77> ok checking out later 17:45 < daja77> bbl 17:58 -!- msp[]- [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:58 -!- msp[]- [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:25 < daja77> blindcoder: still here? 18:28 < esden> daja77: nope he is no more online 18:29 < owl> hi esden 18:29 < esden> and he will be away till tomorrow 18:29 < esden> hi owl 18:29 < esden> nice, at least my xircom card is finally working on the 2.6.0-test1 kernel 18:30 < esden> but the wlan card is still not really recognized ... 18:30 < esden> and the mouspad is not worting either 18:30 < owl> mousepad? 18:30 < daja77> esden: maybe you can help me out 18:30 < esden> daja77: dunno ... what is your problem? 18:31 < daja77> well the gnokii package is a typical autoconf package, so far so good 18:31 < daja77> the package contains a sample config which is included in the src package but not copied to /etc 18:32 < daja77> what would be the cleanest way to do this 18:32 < esden> use one of the hooks ... 18:32 < esden> let me check the name ... 18:33 < esden> use the postinstall hook 18:33 * daja77 checking 18:34 < esden> and add the cp command there 18:45 < cchamilt> hmm false alarm, must have been the 32 flag missing, linux24 stage 1 builds now 18:57 < esden> cu all .. cu tomorrow 19:01 < rxr> daja77: 19:01 < rxr> hook_add postmake 3 "cp the-dof $sysconfdir/" 19:02 < rxr> if you only need this line add it into the .desc file as [O] tag ;-) 19:04 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@120.Red-217-127-128.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:06 < SMP> rxr: what about the network stuff? I'm already getting tired again ;-( 19:06 < netrunner> argl, kernels don't build in my rev, updating :/ 19:08 < rxr> SMP: yes - do we want to phone? Or just chat? 19:11 < SMP> phone - this beta6 setup is too flaky. how about at 8 o'clock - I'd like to eat before 19:12 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817A9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:12 < rxr> SMP: ok - just phoning anyway - see you in some minutes 19:13 < dreamind> Hi 19:15 < SMP> rxr: btw - I need the current lesstif sources, but it's not yet on the mirrors and the original site is down - do you have them? 19:31 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:39 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@120.Red-217-127-128.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:42 < rxr> SMP: I also do not have the source - otherwise it would be on the mirror - since my server is the source for the ROCK-20 official sources ... 19:42 < rxr> I'll search for it now ... 19:42 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:43 < SMP> rxr: well we have a chksum so the must be somewhere ;) 19:45 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:47 < rxr> SMP: done - will be on the master server in a few seconds - and the new URL in svn after that 19:47 < rxr> it is on sourceforge now ... ;-) 19:48 < rxr> webmin has a wrong checksum ... :-( 19:49 < rxr> committed 19:49 < rxr> or - not - mom 19:54 < rxr> so now 19:55 < SMP> you forgot the braindead Sourceforge mirror mechanism :) 19:55 < rxr> hae ? 19:55 < SMP> the url yields only the 'please chose a mirror' page 19:55 < rxr> sorry 19:56 < rxr> done 20:02 < SMP> arrgh 20:02 < daja77> re 20:03 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817A9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x") 20:03 < daja77> rxr: thx 20:06 < daja77> hey it works 20:08 < rxr> daja77: what works ? 20:08 < SMP> rxr: ok, let's get it on .. msg me your phone no ? 20:09 < daja77> that hook adding as you described it 20:09 < rxr> daja77: ah - ok 20:10 * daja77 fetching phone cable and checking if his model after 2 years is finally supported 20:16 < daja77> d'oh /dev/ttyS0 is? 20:17 < daja77> /dev/tts/0 20:17 < Aard> daja77: ?? 20:17 < daja77> ? 20:17 < daja77> for devfs I mean 20:18 < Aard> uh. I just notice that I haven't used any serial devices since my switch to devfs 20:19 < daja77> damn permission denied 20:20 < daja77> ah i am just braindead ... 20:21 < daja77> hmm seems to work ... 20:23 < daja77> cool I have now Aard's phone number on my screen 20:23 < Aard> daja77: ??? 20:23 < daja77> reading phone memory via gnokii 20:23 < Aard> ah. 20:23 < Aard> mh, I could try again if OpenObex works with s45 now 20:23 < daja77> do you mind if I write you a test sms 20:24 < Aard> daja77: no problem 20:29 < Aard> daja77: got a sms from you 20:29 < daja77> now with a laptop to a conference and stealing phone entries *gg* 20:29 < daja77> ;-) 20:30 < daja77> good thing is this costs me nothing 20:30 < Aard> daja77: much more fun would be _deleting_ phone entries :) 20:30 < daja77> hehe 20:30 < daja77> shouln't be that hard 20:47 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:02 -!- msp[] [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:09 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:09 -!- msp[] [e@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:29 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530640.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 21:59 * daja77 notes that pages with mobile phone logos or tunes behave like pron sites 22:00 < Aard> daja77: ? 22:01 < daja77> just google for handy logos gratis and klick around that pages 22:01 < daja77> and guess what one of them redirected me to a pron site 22:03 < daja77> hehe and you can check what is in their top 10 logos 22:05 < daja77> I just wanna download a logo to test if gnokii can add it to my phone without crashing it, but I don't wanna pay for such crap >_< 22:06 < Aard> daja77: simlpy upload a bitmap? :) 22:06 < daja77> no different formats for the phones 22:09 < daja77> wtf www.nokia.de *aaaargl* 22:10 < Aard> daja77: I don't know what you need for nokia-phones. s45 can handle simple windows-bitmaps 22:10 < daja77> maybe I can figure it out 22:11 < daja77> if it just bmps I don't get it, how people can be teased to pay for that shit 22:13 < Aard> daja77: because there are only braindead assholes out there 22:14 < daja77> hehe you can download a modem script for lotus for my mobile from nokia 22:18 < daja77> cool, gnokii has a logo editor, hehe that'll be really personalized 22:19 < Aard> daja77: be careful, or I'll make you use lotus notes 22:20 < daja77> you are evil 22:20 < Aard> Yes, they told me that already. 22:30 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 22:30 < LocalHero> Hi all 22:34 < daja77> hi LocalHero 22:36 < LocalHero> Whats up with all the drock mirrors? 22:37 < LocalHero> uhh, i mean rock 2.0 :) 22:43 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [anders], rolla, daja77, owl, praenti, cchamilt, blindcoder, gomer, LocalHero, kasc, (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, snyke, LocalHero, msp[], netrunne1, blindcoder, kasc, mnemoc, owl, mistik1 (+7 more) 22:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: [anders], rolla 22:48 < rxr> re 22:49 < daja77> re rxr 22:50 < LocalHero> re rxr (still dont know what re is :)) 22:50 < daja77> re(turns) 22:54 < LocalHero> ahh :) 22:58 < LocalHero> rxr, whats up with the mirrors? I thought that i should manually download beta7 so that people dont download old versions 23:18 < rxr> there is no official -beta7 image - it was just a source milestone release before the -rc1 that we will release in a few days ... 23:20 < daja77> 1hmm seems that my machine is faster with compiling after i toggled bios to high speed settings ;-) 23:21 < rxr> it is pointless to just generate whatever binary we can when they are not tested and important stuff in the queue ... 23:21 -!- msp[] is now known as msp[tv] 23:44 < rxr> my iBook and the RS/6000 are now building in a cluster ... 23:44 < daja77> cool 23:45 < daja77> hope i can do some more rock work in the next weeks ... 23:45 < rxr> and yes - I can reproduce the status hostname oddity blindcoder reported ... 23:45 < daja77> strange is my mail still not on the list ... 23:47 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 23:52 -!- [anders] [~snafu@dsl-62-3-122-163.zen.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:53 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:53 -!- msp[tv] [e@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ping timeout") 23:55 -!- msp[]- [msp@p5086FA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sun Jul 27 00:00:30 2003