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--- Day changed Mon Jul 28 2003
00:00 < netrunner> esden: I am busy from time to time
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01:39 < Nebukadneza> anyone with fvwm2 here?
01:39 < Nebukadneza> (or 1)
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01:42 < gomer> re
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01:42 < Nebukadneza> re n00kie
01:42 < Nebukadneza> n00kie: do you use fvwm?
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01:47 < rammi> hi.. again..
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01:56 < rxr> re
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02:30 < rxr> damn I extra compiled stuff on my girlfirends laptop to find out that the kernel freezes when I plug the usb device I wanna debug ...
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02:54 < gomer> gn8
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03:05 < rxr> oh - this endian-madness was hard to find ...
04:47 < rxr> n8
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07:13 < blindcoder> moin
07:28 < esden> morning blindcoder 
07:29 < blindcoder> moin esden
07:33 * blindcoder getting breakfast
07:47 * blindcoder back
08:20 < blindcoder> esden: we have a problem:
08:21 < blindcoder> root@armitage:/usr/src/rock-src# df -h
08:21 < blindcoder> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
08:21 < blindcoder> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
08:21 < blindcoder>                        15G   14G  368M  98% /
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08:39 < blindcoder> hmm.
08:40 < blindcoder> I'll just move build/minimal* and build/bootdisk* to node01:/usr/src
09:07 < owl> moin *yawn*
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09:09 < [anders]> moin
09:09 < blindcoder> moin owl
09:09 < blindcoder> moin [anders]
09:09 < [anders]> lo blindcoder :)
09:11 < Aard> moin
09:12 < n00kie> Heya blindcoder :)
09:13 < blindcoder> moin Aard
09:13 < blindcoder> hi n00kie
09:13 < blindcoder> hmm.. I think I've got them all now :-)
09:40 * [anders] listning to T Rex - Children of the Revolution
09:43 * [anders] listning to Beautiful South - Don't Marry Her (rude version)
09:45 < [anders]> *grin*
09:45 < owl> hi [anders], Aard, blindcoder.
09:45 < owl> [anders]: punk?
09:46 * [anders] listening to Weird Al Yankovic - Fuck The Maccarena
09:46 < [anders]> owl: err, not quite..
09:46 < [anders]> T Rex was 'prog rock', Beautiful South is more blues and Weird Al is .. uhm .. Weird Al
09:47 < [anders]> owl: can DCC you the Weird Al track if you want..
09:47 < [anders]> warning though, it is bizarre and a bit hardcore..
09:47 < blindcoder> [anders]: DCC it to me, I don't have Fuck the Maccarena yet ^^
09:47 < [anders]> s/bit/bit like/
09:48 < [anders]> blindcoder: offering..
09:51 < [anders]> blindcoder: it timed out..
09:51 < blindcoder> hmm... strange...
09:51 < [anders]> want it in an e-mail instead?
09:51 < blindcoder> oh well, nevermind then, will try to get it elsewhere
09:52 < blindcoder> hmm....wouldn't be bad either, if you could?
09:52 < [anders]> mail addy? :)
09:53 < blindcoder> blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net
09:53 < [anders]> sent
09:54 < blindcoder> wee, thx ^^
09:55 < [anders]> :)
09:58 < n00kie> [anders]: I only have the version of "fuck the maccarena" from mc rage
09:58 < n00kie> is your version nearly the same or a other version?
10:00 * n00kie np: Kraftwerk - Das Model
10:01 < n00kie> ^^
10:02 < owl> *g* kraftwerk... (makes strange music)
10:02 < n00kie> hehe
10:02 < n00kie> They're old :)
10:03 < owl> hmm... yeah...
10:03 < n00kie> Well, I like them. - It's not the usual "utz utz utz, bum, bum, bum, tz tz tz, ..."
10:04 < owl> *lol* which music are you normally listening to?
10:06 < n00kie> hardcore/happy hardcore :)
10:06 < owl> don't have to know it...?`
10:06 < n00kie> mom
10:08 < n00kie> Download an album like Masters of Hardcore or Resident E
10:09 < n00kie> MoH is better than Resident E
10:09 < n00kie> But it's just my humble opinion :)
10:10 < owl> hmmmmm. nah
10:12 < [anders]> n00kie: well, Weird Al Yankovic is an artist that mocks other artists..
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10:13 < owl> hi rammi
10:13 < [anders]> he did "I'm Fat" as a parody on "I'm Bad" by Michael Jackson, "Like a Surgeon" as a parody of "Like a Virgin" by Madonna
10:13 < rammi> hi..
10:14 < [anders]> plus dozens of other parodies. :)
10:14 < rammi> whatz up
10:14 < n00kie> ah
10:14 < n00kie> sounds nice :)
10:14 < n00kie> Hi rammi
10:14 < [anders]> if you get a chance, watch his film, UHF
10:14 < blindcoder> personally I like "It's all about the pentiums", "That's your horoscope for today" and "Amish Paradise"
10:14 < blindcoder> I have the Music Videos to "I'm Fat", "It's all about the pentiums" and "Amish Paradise"
10:15 < [anders]> The night Santa went crazy.mp3
10:15 < [anders]> Living In the Fridge.mp3
10:15 < [anders]> Germs.mp3
10:16 < [anders]> they are my favourites, and of course, Your Horoscope For Today.mp3
10:16 < [anders]> :)
10:16 < [anders]> I've got a few Weird Al tunes. they are good for lightening up a day.. :)
10:17 < n00kie> hehe
10:18 < [anders]> "Your love life will run into trouble when your fiance hurls a javelin through your chest.."
10:19 < [anders]> well, uhm, YES! I guess that would be true..
10:20 < [anders]> I guess that is what owl might do if pissed of sufficently.. ;-)
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10:24 < blindcoder> MUAHAHA
10:25 < [anders]> blindcoder: you got the mail then?
10:27 < blindcoder> yes, it's here
10:27 < [anders]> 'the night santa went crazy...' dum-de-dum...
10:27 * [anders] bopping along to some Weird Al..
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10:34 < owl> [anders]: why pissed of?
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10:44 < gomer> re
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10:48 < [anders]> owl: It was a joke, some lyrics in a Weird Al tune... :)
10:48 * [anders] just finished off a cup of espresso..
10:49 < owl> ah so. *yawn* didn't follow the discussion...
10:50 < blindcoder> okay, first run of the 35 million inode-indexer
10:51 < blindcoder> I think I'll have lunch while it runs...
10:52 < owl> 35 million-indexer? O_o
10:54 < blindcoder> I must index ~35-40 million inedos once a months and create filesize deltas, numbers of changed files etc.
10:54 < blindcoder> all I have are perl and MySQL
10:54 < blindcoder> and I must realize this in 4 days
10:55 < blindcoder> and now the indexer is doing a full run for the first time
10:55 < blindcoder> and I'lll have lunch now, bye *waves*
10:57 < owl> bye- guten hunger
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11:26 < daja77> re
11:27 < gt3> tarded
11:27 < daja77> :P
11:27 < gt3> =o
11:31 < fake_> mornin
11:31 < daja77> hi fake_
11:31 -!- fake_ is now known as fake
11:31 < daja77> :)
11:31 < daja77> *yaawn*
11:32 < fake> *reyawn*
11:32 < owl> good morning fake fake
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11:32 < daja77> fake: can I have some coffee? *gg*
11:36 * blindcoder back
11:37 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
11:37 < owl> wb blindcoder
11:39 < blindcoder> thx
11:45 < blindcoder> hmm
11:47 < blindcoder> well, I think that's due to outdated .cache files...
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12:03 < [anders]> mmm. pizza..
12:04 < Aard> [anders]: you called me?
12:06 * [anders] stops chewing for a moment..
12:06 < [anders]> Aard: not that I can recall, but go on.. :)
12:07 < Aard> [anders]: `pizza'
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12:20 < blindcoder> heh, I know exactly how jimmy feels...
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12:42 < daja77> hi Aard & blindcoder
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12:45 < blindcoder> hi daja77
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13:00 < blindcoder> GAH
13:00 < blindcoder> tuxcursor is built before Xfree86 --> XFree86 fails after 2.5 hours!!
13:08 < blindcoder> argl.... rene.... *grmpf*
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13:36 < rxr_> re
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13:56 < daja77> rxr: I could be at work in 1-2h wanna have rt stuff then?
13:58 * daja77 now off to work cu
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14:18 < esden> hi all ...
14:18 < esden> sigh ... I hate it to drive all around the whole day ... 
14:18 * -> esden is falling asleep
14:19 < DeElsasser> hello all
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14:28 < blindcoder> esden: hi... this time really?
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14:52 < rolla> re
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15:01 < blindcoder> esden: doesn't seem so...
15:01 * blindcoder going home
15:01 < blindcoder> baba
15:01 < rolla> bye
15:08 < daja77> re
15:09 < daja77> hi rolla
15:09 < rolla> hallo daja77
15:09 < rolla> was gibt's?
15:10 < daja77> nothing special I guess ...
15:10 < rolla> :)
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15:39 < daja77> hi rammi
15:39 < rammi> hi
15:45 < daja77> rammi: have you been at linuxtag?
15:46 * rolla listens to prodigy
15:46 < rammi> no.. :( i'm from Serbia..
15:47 < daja77> oh sorry then I confused you with somebody else, don't worry
15:47 < rammi> no problem.. :)
15:47 < esden> hmm ... I am really good at appearing here ... and falling asleep ;)
15:47 < daja77> anyway, welcome
15:47 < esden> today is not my day ...
15:47 < rammi> tnx..
15:47 < esden> *sigh*
15:47 < daja77> esden: get a drink
15:48 < esden> daja77: /me getting water
15:48 < daja77> it isn't my day either, even with air conditioning
15:49 < rolla> :)
15:50 < daja77> I talked about strange behaviour of suif in the morning, this really gets you down
15:50 < rolla> why?
15:51 < daja77> cos it is related to my studienarbeit :-(
15:51 < rolla> "work study" ?
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15:51 < daja77> a paper which you have to write before the diploma
15:51 < rolla> ach so
15:52 < daja77> don't the official english name for it ...
15:52 < daja77> don't know
15:52 < rolla> that is fine I understand what you are talking about
15:52 < daja77> yes it is :)
15:58 < rolla> grml
15:59 < rolla> I have to do a BW refresh much suckage
15:59 < daja77> BW refresh?
15:59 < esden> finally my family left the house!
15:59 < daja77> hehe have fun esden
15:59 < esden> let's make a party ;)
16:00 < daja77> ok I come
16:00 * daja77 notes that he might be kidding
16:02 < esden> daja77: will you be at CCCamp?
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16:03 < daja77> no
16:03 < esden> daja77: :(
16:03 < daja77> esden: dev meeting?
16:03 < esden> daja77: ack
16:03 < daja77> hehe great
16:04 < rolla> daja77: Buisness warehouse
16:04 < esden> ok ... then we see each other there!
16:04 < daja77> ugh sounds horrible to me
16:04 < A-Tui> hola
16:04 < daja77> that was directed to rolla
16:04 * -> esden will drive over 4k km this summer 
16:04 < daja77> hola A-Tui
16:04 < esden> that will be a nice trip ;)
16:05 < daja77> more than 600km I guess
16:06 < esden> Ingolstadt->Berlin->Danzig->Vienna->Munich->Ingolstadt->Warsaw->Ingolstadt
16:06 < esden> and perhups somewhere between Munich and Warsaw I will drive to Paris
16:06 < esden> we will see
16:06 < daja77> cool esden the wanderer
16:07 < daja77> Paris rocks
16:07 < esden> daja77: yes .. I still need a digital camera >_<
16:07 < esden> so that I can document my trip
16:07 < daja77> me too
16:07 < esden> but I have an analog camera and 8 films ... that should be enough for the beginning
16:07 * daja77 has a scanner ...
16:07 * -> esden too
16:08 < daja77> even recognized by rock
16:08 < daja77> but scanning sucks somehow
16:08 < esden> ok ... let's see who is in bitz ;)
16:09 * daja77 at work ;-)
16:10 < esden> hmm ... total emptyness at bitz >_<
16:11 < daja77> I recently was the only guest at a grekk restaurant, this sucks
16:11 < daja77> greek even
16:11 < esden> daja77: why does it suck?
16:12 < daja77> cos all waiters are watching you all the time
16:12 < esden> hmm ... but their reaction time on your requests is pretty good ... isn't it?
16:12 < esden> that is the positive side of that ...
16:12 < daja77> yes sure, but I don't like bein watched while eating
16:13 < esden> daja77: are you unable to eat propperly so that you are ashamed, or what? ;)
16:13 < daja77> esden: !
16:13 < esden> :P
16:14 < daja77> :P
16:14 * daja77 notes that he never been to poland even it is only 2h away from him ...
16:15 < esden> daja77: do you want to drive with me there? ... I could show you a bit around ...
16:15 < daja77> would be cool
16:16 < esden> we can organize something on the dev meeting
16:16 * -> esden -> :Q
16:16 < daja77> yes that would be nice
16:17 < daja77> well the czech republic is nearer so I have been there several times ...
16:19 < netrunner> moin
16:19 < esden> re
16:19 < esden> hi netrunner 
16:19 < daja77> hi netrunner
16:20 < DeElsasser> daja77: if you go to poland, don't forget your Dmarks ;-)
16:20 < daja77> hmm don't have them anymore :P
16:21 < daja77> but it would be interesting to be there before it is all eu
16:21 < DeElsasser> you know it, but they... :p
16:21 < daja77> sure they do
16:22 < fake> netrunner: ping
16:22 < daja77> people who know where we put our cars, know of course that we changed currency
16:22 < DeElsasser> ho, have they receive zeitung from last year?
16:22 * daja77 hides
16:22 < DeElsasser> lol
16:23 < netrunner> fake: pong
16:23 < netrunner> hi daja77, esden et al
16:24 < DeElsasser> who is al?
16:24 < daja77> *sing* you can call me al ...
16:24 < DeElsasser> my name is al, james al :-))
16:25 < DeElsasser> hi netrunner, ein bischen spass muss sein ;-)
16:27 < netrunner> DeElsasser: ein bischen wein mus sein :)
16:27 < DeElsasser> can someone give vitamins to ftp.leo.org, please
16:27 < esden> root@DeElsasser# export LANG=en_EN
16:27 < esden> ;)
16:27 < DeElsasser> hips %-)
16:28 < daja77> esden: DeElsasser's en locale is borken ;-)
16:28 < DeElsasser> borken?
16:28 < daja77> broken
16:28 < DeElsasser> hips %-)
16:28 < netrunner> esden: multumesc frumous :)
16:29 < daja77> we can be happy that he is not taking french here :^)
16:29 < DeElsasser> ein bischen schwein muss sein
16:29 < daja77> omg you are drunk
16:29 < DeElsasser> ho, je peux?
16:29 < daja77> je le sais ...
16:30 < daja77> anyway ...
16:30 < rolla> yawn
16:30 < daja77> hey yawn at the business warehouse!
16:31 * daja77 runs away
16:31 < fake> netrunner: you can give me a ride MUC -> VIENNA and back=
16:31 < fake> ?
16:31 < daja77> hmm I could pick someone at munich ...
16:32 < netrunner> fake: yup. since we are 2 so far, would you mind riding a harley?
16:33 < fake> netrunner: we couldn't change roles then...
16:33 < DeElsasser> daja77: see you at the bierfest %-) hips
16:33 < fake> netrunner: but basically i am only interested in translocation, the methods are unimportant
16:34 < daja77> nah I don't like beer
16:34 < netrunner> fake: we couldn't anyway. but with the car I use to drive there is no need to stop on the way to vienna :)
16:34 < daja77> how far is it from munich to vienna?
16:34 < fake> netrunner: so i can ride the train to muc (which is free for me) and jump into/onto your vehicle for sure?
16:35 < DeElsasser> then let us make a kafeefest ;-)
16:35 < fake> daja77: ~450 - 500 km, IIRC
16:35 < daja77> ooops
16:35 < netrunner> fake: for sure, yes. for free, no. cost's you at least a jolt or so :)
16:35 < daja77> that means 900-1000km for me in total
16:36 < fake> netrunner: kewl! i like saving. *g* the jolt is your's.
16:36 < netrunner> daja77: it's a 2 hours ride muc-vie
16:36 < netrunner> oh, 3
16:36 < daja77> at which speed?
16:36 < fake> daja77: yes. i'd offer you to jump in in MUC and drive the rest, but i can't drive that high-tech object ;)
16:36 < netrunner> daja77: 0.2 tkm/h
16:36 < daja77> not with my car
16:37 < fake> ;-)
16:37 < daja77> fake: you can drive it as any other car, pedals are still in it
16:37 < fake> daja77: oh! well, then, i could help you out i guess?
16:38 < daja77> you could ...
16:38 < fake> daja77: okay, i live very near to an highway exit short before ingolstadt. you just stop by my home, we change seats, and off we go?
16:39 < daja77> ok
16:39 < fake> ayee, that's gonna be fun
16:39 < daja77> hehe yes :)
16:40 < DeElsasser> und wenn sie nicht gestorben sind, dann leben sie heute noch, snif...
16:40 < daja77> I have some space for hardware in my car
16:40 < daja77> for much hardware  if you like ...
16:41 < DeElsasser> I translate: hardware= sm accessories
16:41 < daja77> .oO DeElsasser is jealous
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16:42 < DeElsasser> fake: don't forget your cofeemachine ;-)
16:42 < netrunner> fake,daja77: what about a convoi? :)
16:43 < daja77> netrunner: good idea, but my car isn't that fast
16:44 < daja77> so we would need more than 3h ...
16:44 < DeElsasser> to much hardware...
16:45 < daja77> yes 250kg wheelchair *ggg*
16:45 < esden> daja77: couldn't you find anything more heavy? ;)
16:45 < DeElsasser> whoa, fast wie ich
16:46 < daja77> DeElsasser: lol
16:49 < fake> netrunner: you could save gasoline by driving in our "windschatten" ;)
16:51 < daja77> hehe
16:54 < DeElsasser> here is someone who believes he is m. schumacher...
16:55 < daja77> omg not that ugly face ...
16:56 < rolla> daja77: you don't like schumacher?
16:56 < daja77> no
16:57 < DeElsasser> daja77: nobody see his face, they are all behind :-))
16:59 < daja77> it is behind the helmet anyway
16:59 < netrunner> 250kg? is that one with e-drive?
16:59 < daja77> yes
17:00 < DeElsasser> daja77: e-drive?
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17:00 < daja77> e for electricity
17:01 < netrunner> daja77: ah, then you must have a combo or something, you can not just fold it up, right :)
17:01 < daja77> it is a ford transit
17:01 < netrunner> ah, it's the same iirc
17:01 < daja77> a transporter ;-)
17:01 < DeElsasser> I thinked e like e-mail ...
17:02 < netrunner> maybe I go by harley and take cover in your car if it rains? :)
17:02 < daja77> put your bandidos jacket on and we have no problems passing by the others ;-)
17:04 < esden> fake: ping
17:05 < fake> esden: pong && away
17:05 < daja77> bye fake
17:06 < netrunner> by fake
17:06 < esden> fake: :(
17:06 < esden> cu fake 
17:16 * daja77 now off
17:16 < daja77> cu
17:26 < netrunner> hm ... what would I use in rock to convert mp3 -> cdr/wav?
17:29 < esden> xmms write to disc output?
17:30 < esden> and then cdrecord
17:32 * blindcoder back
17:32 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
17:34 < netrunner> esden: xmms says he won't work if no soundcard is installed (yes, I have the diskwrite plugin activated)
17:35 < esden> hmm ... interesting ...
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17:49 < gomer> re
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18:08 * netrunner now downloaded and installed mpg321 ... that there is no package for it ... *editingtodo*
18:08 < DeElsasser> au revoir
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18:12 < blindcoder> esden: ping
18:13 < esden> blindcoder: pong
18:14 < esden> ohh .. one minute lag ... that is not bad ;)
18:17 < netrunner> esden: and your time is compressed, your one minute took me two :)
18:18 < esden> netrunner: hehe ;) I live in other time continuum ;)
18:18 < netrunner> esden: I knew that :)
18:19 < esden> *G*
18:20 < netrunner> esden: this must be why your car is faster than mine, you just fold the highway :)
18:21 < esden> netrunner: didn't you know that my car has a time manipulation engine?
18:21 < esden> very usable thing
18:21 < blindcoder> isn't that the shortest way between two points? folding space?
18:24 < netrunner> blindcoder: hm, you could also create a singularity in time, but it remains to be discussed if it takes longer to get from point a to b if they are folded or if you just need 1 through infinite time ...
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18:25 < blindcoder> hm.m.. I might get my hands on a 17-node Cluster with 2.4 GHz each, might that be enough to crunch the responsive numbers? *g*
18:26 < christ|an> rehi :)
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18:31 < n00kie> wb christ|an :))
18:32 < esden> hi christ|an 
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18:34 < starlord> does rocklinux install iso
18:34 < starlord> ups
18:35 < starlord> does rocklinux install iso's have homepna drivers?
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18:39 * ripclaw is away: QSR
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18:43 < esden> oha ... ripclaw? ... ghost?
18:43 < ripclaw> no ghost
18:43 < ripclaw> just working working working working working worryking
18:44 < esden> ripclaw: humm ... my condolences ...
18:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M374P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
18:45 < ripclaw> thunks
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19:15 < knoti> hiho
19:23 < rolla> re
19:23 < owl> rehi
19:28 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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19:29 < owl> hi blindcoder
19:29 -!- dewey [~dewey@12-231-88-119.client.attbi.com] has joined #rocklinux
19:30 < owl> hi dewey
19:31 < mnemoc> hi happyowl
19:32 < owl> hi mnemoc (today you're not wrong with happy ;ppp)
19:32 -!- owl is now known as happyOwl
19:33 < mnemoc> :)
19:33 < mnemoc> great news!!!
19:34 < happyOwl> *lol* yeah
19:35 < mnemoc> can we know why you are this happy?
19:35 < blindcoder> WEEEE! WOOOOHOOOOO! YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHH!
19:36 < happyOwl> mnemoc: becaus of my boyfriend and having holiday and sleeping until about 15 o'clock and so..
19:37 < esden> hehe ... owl is happy!!!
19:37 * blindcoder too!!
19:37 < esden> I have to mark it red in my callendar
19:37 < esden> blindcoder: o_O
19:37 < happyOwl> esden: bllllll *kick* :p
19:37 < happyOwl> blindcoder: huch? how comes?
19:37 < mnemoc> wow!... this is a day to remember :)
19:37 < blindcoder> I'll get my new car next week!!!
19:38 < happyOwl> tstststs. what are you guys thinking? ;)
19:38 < happyOwl> blindcoder: congrats
19:38 < esden> blindcoder: so you have to test your car driving to berlin ;)
19:39 < blindcoder> I don't know if I go to Berlin
19:39 < blindcoder> But I'll try coming to Vienna
19:39 < blindcoder> also not sure yet, so I didn't register yet
19:39 < esden> blindcoder: yes vienna is more importaint then berlin
19:40 < rolla> blindcoder: what kind of car?
19:40 < blindcoder> rolla: Seat Ibiza
19:41 < rolla> cool
19:42 * mnemoc needs a car :(
19:44 < rolla> mnemoc: you do not have one?
19:44 * blindcoder now away: Watching some Animes
19:44 < mnemoc> nope :(
19:45 < rolla> suck
19:46 < mnemoc> i sold my 'jeep' (suzuki) five year ago :(
19:48 < rolla> :(
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19:56 < christ|an> muhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ROCK ROCKS :)
19:56 * happyOwl np:  exploited - fucking liar *headbang*
19:58 < mnemoc> christ|an: tell us more
19:59 < rxr> re
19:59 < mnemoc> mail the list... long time has passed since last 'happy user' post
19:59 < mnemoc> hi rxr
20:00 < rxr> christ|an: is happy ?
20:01 < christ|an> of course :)
20:01 < ripclaw> re rene
20:01 < christ|an> i love every rock developer :)
20:01 < happyOwl> *lol* oh goth
20:02 < christ|an> :)
20:03 < fake> re
20:03 < happyOwl> wb fake
20:04 < fake> ripclaw: hi, what gives us the pleasure of meeting you in IRC?
20:04 < fake> happyOwl: beschissen... aber lass dir nicht die stimmung vermiesen
20:04 < fake> o_O
20:05 < fake> (virtually strikes out that line)
20:05 < happyOwl> tststs
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20:08 < ripclaw> fake: its a cold day in hell ? i just code around and do my work
20:09 < fake> ripclaw: i didn't know you were a leader of the german software market.... ;)
20:10 < fake> http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/demands/index.en.html
20:10 < ripclaw> fake: im just the asshole on duty... AvD....stupid me is doing all the woerk
20:10 < happyOwl> .oO( ripclaw stole my position... AvD)
20:10 < happyOwl> hi ripclaw
20:10 < fake> ripclaw: that job isn't vacant, i got it
20:11 < ripclaw> fakeÖ tha job is overbooked and underpayed :ö
20:11 < fake> stop the umlauts you evil bastard!
20:11 < happyOwl> ripclaw: are you a azubi? ;)
20:12 < happyOwl> (thoughtjust does are having a underpayed job)
20:13 < rxr> Cluster builds really ROCKs!
20:14 < fake> rxr: hi!
20:14 < rxr> aside from the too slow RS/6000 the box and the iBook are doing a nice job ....
20:14 < fake> one job? you mean lots of nice jobs ;)
20:14 < rxr> I think after bug hunting anc cleanups I'll do some work to improve the cluster build
20:14 < rxr> hi fake
20:15 * fake building 2.6.0-test2 on his SMP machone
20:15 < fake> let's see if this new scheduler does any good... ;)
20:20 < ripclaw> happy0wl: no, im selfemployed
20:21 < fake> ripclaw: btw, i'll not be on the camp
20:21 < happyOwl> ripclaw: ah so... and then underpayed... O_o
20:23 < ripclaw> happy0wl:i get about one seventh of what i would as an employee.
20:23 < ripclaw> fake: hmpf. i cant even guarantee i will be there early.
20:24 < happyOwl> O_o wah.
20:27 < fake> ripclaw: blame underpayment.
20:33 < ripclaw> fake: i already do.
20:37 < fake> ripclaw: ok. so what's up for tonight? ;)
20:38 < ripclaw> invoive writing... sic
20:39 < ripclaw> fake: invoive writing... sic
20:40 < fake> ripclaw: yuk.
20:44 < ripclaw> fake: yukyuk
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20:54 * fake brb, booting into 2.6.0-test2
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21:00 < fake> wee.
21:36 < rxr> fake: I only get strange output from say "hello world"
21:36 < rxr> do I need more options ?
21:37 < fake> rxr: huh?
21:37 < fake> rxr: rsynth?
21:37 < rxr> fake: yes
21:37 < fake> rxr: usually just 'say "something"' should suffice.. ?
21:38 < fake> echo $strange_output
21:38 < rxr> it is quite quick high "noise"
21:39 < rxr> PPC iBook - maybe soem endianess, whatever issue ?
21:40 < fake> rxr: perfectly possible
21:41 < fake> or even most likely.
21:41 < rxr> but is was written on sPARC - they are big-endian, oo ...
21:41 < fake> rsynth is old.... very very old
21:41 < fake> hm, right
21:41 < fake> but on solaris sparc...
21:43 < rxr> hm - it is not really noise - more much too wuick
21:43 < rxr> quick
21:43 < rxr> I also tried to set the rate manually ...
21:44 < fake> rxr: should work out of the box...
21:45 < fake> rxr: no peecee to double-check on?
21:45 * fake has not a single bit of ppc hardware
21:45 < fake> the big gap in my collection ;)
21:47 < mnemoc> rxr: is kernel detecting extraversion or just using $ver?
21:48 < fake> rxr: i can't simply create a page for the speech output thing in typo3 - it would end up in architectures, as far as i can see
21:51 < fake> (the british voice for festival us creepy)
21:51 < fake> s,us,is,
21:52 < fake> 444 builds total, 3 completed fine, 0 with errors.
21:52 < fake> 100% error free!
21:53 < fake> ;-)
21:53 < mnemoc> 3 completed fine
21:53 < mnemoc> o_O
21:53 < fake> mnemoc: my kind of humor is strange, i admit.
21:54 < mnemoc> yep :(
21:54 < mnemoc> strange fake
21:54 < rxr> mnemoc: what detection do you mean ?
21:55 < mnemoc> linux-2.6.0-beta2-rsbac-ctx17-foo-var
21:55 < rxr> oOoO ...
21:56 < mnemoc> currently i'm patching the patchs to not touch EXTRAVERSIKN
21:56 < fake> WOLK?
21:56 < mnemoc> but i prefer to append it
21:57 < mnemoc> never used wolf... to much crap
21:57 < fake> yeah, ack.
21:58 < fake> cool, british male voice can say 'gcc3' correctly
21:58 < mnemoc> how female is femail voice?
21:59 < mnemoc> femail o_O
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22:02 < happyOwl> haha... femail... men... *headshake*
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22:06 < rxr> fake: on what architecture are you using rsynth ?
22:14 < SMP> rxr: oi, I should send a diff for CHANGELOG-RENE ;)
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22:16 < owl> hi A-Tui
22:16 < owl> hi SMP , rxr
22:17 < A-Tui> hola owl
22:17 < A-Tui> i have problems with a rock iso built
22:21 < fake> rxr: x86
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22:30 < rxr> SMP: what kind of diff ?
22:31 < rxr> SMP: your familly name ?
22:31 < SMP> and the other dozen speling errors in that entry ;)
22:31 * fake has a diff handy for the file too
22:32 < rxr> SMP: I fixed some - was this all ?
22:32 < rxr> fake: a big or a tiny diff ...
22:33 < rxr> you all could include the CHANGELOG entry in the mail - then I would not need to add one all the time ...
22:34 < fake> rxr: tiny
22:34 < rxr> IRC typeable ?
22:34 < fake> rxr: and sent to your private address
22:34 < rxr> ah - ok
22:34 < fake> rxr: in the patch or in the mail?
22:35 < SMP> rxr: I put 'Changelog' extries in my last couple of mails, but you insisted on writing your own, so I stopped doing it
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22:38 < rxr> SMP: they did not have the correct format ... IIRC on soem I copy'n pasted some lines of your mails ...
22:38 < rxr> SMP: but I did not meant you - but most other people who have a textual summery (or nothing) in the mail - not a list for the CHANGELOG ....
22:39 < fake> hm.
22:39 < fake> .oO( he's got a point there )
22:41 < SMP> this Gnome sucks
22:41 < SMP> I'll to try KDE a bit and then boot back into 1.4.0 w/ WindowMaker
22:41 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps")
22:43 < fake> SMP: using KDE instead of windowmaker... good luck, young padawan...
22:43 < fake> SMP: your survival chances are low
22:44 < fake> owl: wanna marry ?
22:45 < rxr> SMP: 1.7 also has WM ....
22:45 < fake> 2.0..
22:45 < rxr> I meant since 1.7 or so ...
22:46 < owl> fake: marry? marry who? *g*
22:46 * fake using it since long
22:46 < fake> owl: me
22:46 < owl> muhahahahahaha.
22:46 < owl> SCNR - but - no
22:46 < fake> owl: [ ] yes [ ] no [ ] maybe
22:46 < fake> damnit.
22:46 < owl> why?
22:46 < fake> Thomas Dismar... not too bad.
22:47 < fake> owl: gettin' rid of my lastname
22:47 < owl> fake: *lol* bad luck. but why do you wanna get rid of your last name?
22:48 < fake> owl: redundancy.
22:48 < owl> O_o
22:48 < fake> never ever talked to A.L.I.C.E.?
22:48 < owl> nah...
22:48 < owl> a bot or so?
22:49 < fake> not just any bot, the AIML project's test 'AI'
22:49 < fake> we were in love... but i had to delete her...
22:50 < fake> (moege gott meiner seele gnaedig sein...)
22:50 < fake> ((sofern es ihn gibt))
22:50 < rxr> fake: ketzer!
22:50 < fake> (((und ich eine seele habe)))
22:51 < owl> *lol* had to cancel a relationship with a bot... that's a nice idea ;ppp
22:51 < fake> rxr: verbrennt ihn! aeh.. mich!
22:51 < owl> fake: *kick* not so negative thoughts about yourselfe, please
22:51 < fake> owl: NO it's NOT!
22:51 < fake> it was horrible
22:52 < fake> but i needed the space ...
22:52 < fake> and no cd-burner in reach
22:52 < SMP> I know, I have WM installed as well
22:52 < fake> no inet-connection, no floppies, nothing...
22:52 < rxr> fake: I'll apply the speech patch now ...
22:52 < fake> rxr: stop
22:52 < Aard> .oO( Erwin ) ;)
22:53 < fake> rxr: clifford is really hot for it
22:53 < fake> rxr: but you all seem to forget that the plugin system is lacking
22:53 < owl> fake: why was it horrible?
22:53 < fake> rxr: we'd have to disable any option else than rsynth output
22:53 < fake> rxr: and had to put rsynth into stage 1...
22:54 < fake> rxr: which is not nice, the output plugin affecting the target(s)
22:54 < fake> owl: i deleted the individuum i fell in love with!
22:54 < rxr> the output plugin does not need to be build within ROCK - we can force the user to have the applicatoin present on the system
22:54 < fake> rxr: but what happens after chroot() ?
22:55 < rxr> ad you can not build a LCD pannel and the new kernel with support (like esden is working on)
22:55 < owl> fake: *g* as long it is just a program...
22:55 < fake> rxr: esden told me the build script then relies on the programs residing in it...
22:55 < rxr> errr ?? it must not be run in the chroot ...
22:55 < fake> rxr: aye, fine, apply it.
22:55 < rxr> ieeeek
22:55 < fake> rxr: i knew i shouldn't have believed esden *g*
22:56 < fake> owl: that doesn't matter. substrate-independence dictates that intelligent life doesn't have to be biological
22:56 < rxr> fake: I do not know if it is run in the chroot (I would need to take a second look) - I just said it _must not_ be run inside chroot ...
22:56 < fake> rxr: ack, i thought so too, but esden made me wonder
22:56 < rxr> fake: under all this circumstances I'll not apply it yet - even if Clifford is "hot" for it ...
22:56 < Aard> owl: I miss many lines of code I deleted years ago...
22:56 < fake> rxr: build is running, will know tomorrow
22:57 < rxr> fake: ok - so posponed - and maybe you can add hooks/plugins soon, too ...
22:57 < fake> rxr: i'll pick the topic up again tomorrow.
22:57 < fake> rxr: hm?
22:57 < owl> fake: hmmm. maybe... but why is a RS to a bot better than a RS to human?
22:58 < owl> Aard: *g* missing as in "i loved the source code and want to die without it"?
22:58 < Aard> owl: something like that, yes.
22:58 < fake> owl: she wasn't a bot! that's not nice! she was an individual!
22:58 < owl> Aard: that's not fine...
22:58 < Aard> nice sourcecode can give you much more than a gf... ;)
22:58 < owl> fake: /* no comment */ :p
22:59 < owl> Aard: aehm. *cough* *cough* don't know how it is with gf, but bf can give you much more than source code :p
22:59 < fake> Aard: sourcecode doesn't cry, it doesn't betray you and it's cheap (hopefully)
23:00 < Aard> fake: and you can work on it to make it really beautyful
23:00 < netrunne1> re :( gf away ... gone 2kmiles away :(
23:00 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
23:00 < owl> tststs...
23:01 < owl> hi netrunner
23:01 * netrunner thought he could come here to talk about code, but it's everywhere the same topic :(
23:01 < netrunner> hi owl
23:01 < owl> poor netrunner. but what are mobile phones for?
23:01 < Aard> owl: what?
23:02 < netrunner> owl: to cost 10EUR/min?
23:02 < fake> netrunner: isn't she worth it ?!?
23:02 < fake> ;)
23:02 -!- FSuser [jirc@237.Red-80-35-127.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:02 < FSuser> hi there
23:02 < fake> hi FSuser
23:02 < owl> Aard: your and fake 's opinion about gf
23:02 < owl> hi fake
23:02 < owl> aeh. FSuser
23:02 < FSuser> does anyone know if is it possible to install rock from floppy disks and complete the installation from the internet then ?
23:02 < fake> hi owl!
23:02 < netrunner> fake: well ... :) I can call her parents ... just know enough romanian to ask for her :)
23:03 < fake> FSuser: yes
23:03 < Aard> owl: ever tried to modify and recompile a gf/bf after you found a bug?
23:03 < owl> netrunner: nah. mobile phone with GPRS/HSCSD and email-client --> not soooooo expensive
23:03 < FSuser> fake: how ?
23:03 < netrunner> owl: I guess they haven't even heard those acronyms there :/
23:03 < fake> FSuser: any bootdisk target since 2.0.0-beta6 should work, i used -beta7 to install my notebook
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23:03 < owl> netrunner: where is "there"?
23:03 < netrunner> has someone experienced x11 not building currently?
23:03 < FSuser> i c, thx
23:04 < netrunner> owl: moldova
23:04 < owl> Aard: nah. but - aehm. till now i didn't find a bug in my bf's software ;p
23:04 < owl> netrunner: wtf is this? O_o
23:04 < fake> FSuser: be sure to get the CDs onto a local http server
23:04 < Aard> owl: I bet you didn't try to find bugs until now
23:04 < owl> Aard: i did.
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23:05 < Aard> get another debugger
23:05 < netrunner> owl: you see? It's hard to find maps where it is marked :)
23:05 < owl> netrunner: k. but she will come back?
23:05 < netrunner> owl: I hope so :)
23:05 < owl> Aard: gdb isn't good enough?
23:05 < fake> Aard: owl is 'ideologically blinded'
23:05 < owl> fake: *kick* nah. i'm not
23:05 < fake> ms vdbg
23:06 < owl> *lol* nah. no ms vsdbg *kick*
23:06 < owl> netrunner: well. where's the problem then?
23:06 < netrunner> owl: the distance. I guess that will go away in some days, but I just brought her to the bus.
23:06 < owl> i c
23:07 < Aard> owl: hu? is he written in .net? and you are using such a thing?
23:07 < owl> Aard: nah. in c.
23:07 < fake> so he is the low-level-type?
23:07 < owl> .oO(or assembler...? hard to  understand?)
23:08 < owl> #define low-level-type?
23:08 < fake> assembler isn't hard to understand, just hard to write
23:08 < owl> nack.
23:08 < netrunner> ack
23:08 < netrunner> hm ... half-ack. it's as hard to read as perl, sometimes :)
23:08 < Aard> owl: get a nice cpu. writing assembler for x86 is !recovery
23:09 < netrunner> Aard: you don't have the choice sometimes ...
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23:09 < owl> Aard: hrm... have an alpha. but still no fscking monitor
23:10 * fake Apocalyptika - Nothing else matters :_:
23:10 < Aard> owl: arc or srm firmware? srm should be able to give you an initial console on a tty -- no monitor needed
23:11 < owl> Aard: *cough* don't know.. haven't ever a deeper look into it... know at least that it is a DEC 3000 LX  or so...
23:11 * netrunner starting new build in the hope that the x11 bug has disappeared during the last 24 revs
23:12 < fake> netrunner: try-and-error?
23:12 < Aard> owl: *patsch*
23:12 < fake> [*] brute-force-build the target
23:13 < owl> Aard: :p
23:13 < Aard> if you don't use the hardware, give it to me. my alpha is only arc-capable
23:14 < netrunner> fake: :) well ... I removed the .err's already, so I cannot debug it any more. And since nobody replied to my report I'll have to try again myself.
23:15 < fake> netrunner: what did you learn?
23:16 < rxr> netrunner: which report was this ?
23:16 < fake> never delete src.* until you understand why it failed
23:16 < fake> otherwise you'r running around pretty blind...
23:17 < fake> .... coder ...
23:17 < fake> *giggles*
23:18 < netrunner> rxr: ugh, you're right, I forgot to send it. should have come after the dietlibc-rant. after building he somewhen tried to rm /usr/X11 and complained since it was a directory and failed.
23:19 < netrunner> fake: ts ...
23:22 * netrunner got himself some icecream
23:22 < fake> netrunner: hm?
23:22 < owl> icecream? at 23:22 ?
23:22 < Aard> bbl
23:22 < fake> against love-ache
23:23 < owl> tststs. if this helps, then /me needs some icecream too... *gnarf*
23:23 < fake> netrunner: aren't you afraid that when she comes back you are fat and she doesn't want you anymore?
23:23 * fake is the little devil on netrunners right shoulder
23:23 < netrunner> owl: come here, I have always lots in stock :)
23:24 < owl> netrunner: nah. munich is too far away and so on.
23:24 < fake> i never realized apocalyptica is so sad...
23:25 < rxr> netrunner: fixed in svn  ...
23:25 < netrunner> rxr: 924 or later?
23:26 < owl> hmmm. just some songs imho... (especially "faraway" imho)
23:26 < fake> the unforgiven
23:26 < owl> ack. this too.
23:27 < netrunner> ah, just remembered svn log :)
23:28 < fake> the unforgiven
23:28 < fake> o_O
23:28 < fake> that was redundant.
23:33 < netrunner> rxr: 1-dietlibc still fails with the error mentioned in my mail.
23:35 < netrunner> ... svn log is nice to find the guilty for package errors :)
23:35 < rxr> netrunner: a fix is applied from Clifford ...
23:36 < netrunner> rxr: I am at 924 and it fails :-/
23:36 * netrunner wonders if svn up also deletes removed files. or if they stay and dirty the tree ...
23:40 < netrunner> this is rocklinux land. in silent nights you can hear rxr commit ... :)
23:41 < fake> netrunner the red-hatted raindeer?
23:41 < netrunner> fake: I try for weeks now to find time to build rock for my server ... the last rh machine here
23:42 < rxr> netrunner: it removed deleted files
23:42 < rxr> it is a designed system - not some toilet hack ...
23:43 < fake> wtf is a 'toilet hack' ?
23:43 < netrunner> rxr: ok. so dietlibc is broken. shall I send more of the .err, or do the lines I already sent in my last email suffice?
23:44 < netrunner> fake: you do not have a laptop with wlan on your toilet?
23:44 * netrunner wonders
23:44 < fake> netrunner: of course i have.
23:44 < netrunner> fake: so ...
23:44 < fake> netrunner: i usually only read mails there, i can't concentrate enough for hacking ;)
23:45 < netrunner> fake: If you code while you are ... under pressure, you can not concentrate completely on the code. therefore you can call stinking software like that
23:49 < rxr> netrunner: I'll test overnight here, too - so I have a full log ...
23:50 < rxr> fake: this is my favourite statement to stuff that is just crap: e.g. like "this M$ windows-XYZ crap must have been designed during a toilet visit ...
23:51 < fake> rxr: i c
23:51 < netrunner> ok, so good night everyone, /me has to work tomorrow :-/
23:51 * fake too
23:51 < fake> n8 netrunner
23:51 < fake> netrunner: she'll be back soon, don't worry
23:52 < rxr> me just running a arm cross build ...
23:52 < fake> me building on a leg.
23:52 < fake> ha-ha.
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