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--- Log opened Wed Jul 30 00:00:38 2003
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00:37 < n00kie_> Good night :)
00:48 < jsaw> cu l8r
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00:51 < Freak> omg :)
00:51 < Nebukadneza> :)
00:51 < Nebukadneza> hm?
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01:28 < dennis> duuuhh, i don't find the rfc for quoting emails, anybody knows?
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01:48 < rxr> hm - should I dump the next version of the handbook now
01:49 * rxr hm - do we have more frequent versions of the hendbook then rock now ...
01:49 < rxr> anyway ...
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02:01 < esden> rxr: when will you apply the nfs-utils patch? ... and there was another one from blindcoder ...
02:02 < rxr> esden: öh - I have not applied it - damn
02:02 < rxr> which other patch? the Build-Job changes ?
02:02 < esden> yes you have not
02:02 < esden> no ... it was a package fix
02:02 < esden> sent by Benjamin Schieder
02:03 < esden> it was cluster build related package fix
02:03 < esden> let me see which it was
02:04 < esden> rxr: tuxcursor was the second one
02:04 < rxr> - Piotr Esden-Tempski: updated and so fixed nfs-utils
02:05 < rxr> tuxcursor is fixed in another way
02:05 < esden> ohh ... ok ... then I have overseen it ...
02:05 < rxr> for your patch I seem to forgot the send an apply mail ... :-(
02:05 < esden> sorry
02:05 < rxr> sorry for forgetting the applied mail from time to time ...
02:05 < esden> ahh .. yes you forgot to send the mail .. but I have overseen the svn mail
02:06 < esden> rxr: I hope I will find the time the next weeks to write the patch submission system
02:06 < esden> I started it with blindcoder but I stopped because I had some security stuff that I had no idea how to solve sainly
02:07 < rxr> esden: nope - I think we do not need it anymore - we'll discuss this at the Camp and/or dev-meeting ...
02:07 < esden> the request was that it should be usable with a command tool and over web
02:08 < rxr> Clifford and I think we'll open a svn branch with write access for everyone
02:08 < rxr> and pull the usefull changeset out of it ...
02:08 < esden> rxr: you are overseeing too many patch mails ... that is what is my problem
02:08 < esden> hmm ... it is worth a test
02:08 < rxr> no write access for the mail trunk - just a incomming trunk ...
02:08 < esden> but that is also not working well behind firewalls
02:08 < rxr> s/mail/main/
02:09 < esden> rxr: yes I know
02:09 < rxr> use port 81 my apache is also running on ;-)
02:09 < esden> rxr: I have only access to port 80 and 443 through a proxy nothing else
02:09 < esden> and I can not even make a checkout ...
02:10 < esden> but I will try once more
02:10 < rxr> really no other port? Also not the svn port for checkouts ?
02:11 < rxr> where is this - at uni ?
02:11 < esden> nope
02:11 < esden> it is in "studentenstadt
02:11 < esden> "
02:11 < esden> where I live
02:12 < esden> and when I forward a port using ssh it is not working either because the reverse lookup stuff is not correct ... and svn is looking at it >_<
02:12 < esden> I could make checkouts using cvs and ssh port forwarding
02:13 < esden> but not with svn
02:13 < rxr> and when you tunnel the http port ?
02:13 < esden> rxr: I tunneled also the http port
02:13 < esden> the same problems
02:14 < esden> (on the rocklinux page there is a link missing in the main menu on the left upper side "Download")
02:16 < esden> you need 4 clicks to get to the https://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/drock/source.html url where is described how to get the current rocklinux source ...
02:16 < esden> that is too much
02:20 < rolla> re
02:20 < rolla> wifi is cool
02:20 < esden> wifi?
02:21 < rolla> wireless
02:21 < esden> ahh ok ... yes wireless lan is cool ;)
02:21 < rolla> it took some work but I got a SMC card working
02:21 < rolla> esden: it is cool but getting cards that work with linux is hard
02:22 < esden> the only thing that is missing is wireless power ... or burncells in laptop format
02:22 < rxr> esden: nope rock stable 2.0 describes how to get the source
02:22 < rolla> :)
02:22 < esden> rolla: where is it on the main site?
02:22 < esden> argh ... sorry rolla
02:22 < esden> rxr: where is it on the main site?
02:23 < esden> it is not obvious
02:23 < rolla> :)
02:23 < rolla> when does 2.0 become full release?
02:23 < esden> there should be an obvious link labeled Download on the main site so you get to the download page easyly
02:23 < esden> rolla: when it is ready ;)
02:24 < esden> there are still tons of bugs and problems to fix if you ask me ...
02:24 < rxr> About ROCK Linux -> ROCK 2.0
02:24 < esden> the cluster build revealed really nasty problems ...
02:24 < rxr> ^- Linux
02:25 < rxr> esden: what problems?
02:25 < esden> rxr: that are still three clicks
02:25 < rolla> esden: I was jsut wondering I have been off with gentoo so I start with rock again
02:25 < esden> rxr: for example race conditions in recreation of config directory
02:25 < rxr> yes - some download or getting ling _might be ueful_
02:25 < esden> the locking mechanisms are not working properly over nfs ...
02:26 < esden> caching is the enemy
02:26 < rxr> NFS does nearly cache nothing ...
02:26 < esden> it does enough
02:26 < esden> I have not taken a deeper look at what happens ... I only heared the symptoms from blindcoder
02:27 < rxr> maybe this is not locked at all???
02:27 < esden> and these are race conditions for me
02:27 < esden> rxr: yes that is also a possibility ;)
02:27 < rxr> might be some "more then a few boxes" problem in combination with source updates that amek such a creation necessary more often ...
02:27 < esden> but it means that when you build with 4 machines and one master ... the problems occure
02:28 < esden> rxr: no there was no update
02:28 < rxr> the cluster build has only tiny issues - and the nodes should be more plug'n play able - that is all
02:28 < esden> it simply happened after some hours that config file contained double entries
02:28 < rxr> I do not get why you all make such a big deal out of it
02:29 < esden> i do not say that it is a big deal
02:29 < esden> but it is also a part of rock
02:29 < esden> and it is a part that is not working propperly
02:29 < esden> we fix it or remove it ...
02:29 < esden> otherwise we are producing bad pr
02:29 < esden> if someone tryes to build in cluster
02:30 < esden> the cluster build is a nice feature so someone may want to test it
02:30 < esden> and if it is not working and producing really wired errors... that is no good pr for us
02:30 < rxr> I use it since a few days for a PPC duo build "RS/6000 and a iBook"
02:30 < esden> we could mark it experimental for now
02:31 < esden> rxr: that are only two machines
02:31 < rxr> I'm fixing bugs on the way, and also consider improvements ...
02:31 < esden> the problems occure on more then two machines
02:31 < rxr> esden: you are free to send hardware over
02:31 < esden> rxr: I do not want you to fix it ...
02:31 < esden> that is not what I am saying
02:31 < rxr> the problem would also occur here - just not that often ..
02:31 < esden> I only say that _WE_ have to fix that stuff
02:32 < esden> that means we need time
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02:32 < jsaw> re
02:32 < esden> rxr: yes not that often ... that is correct
02:32 < rxr> esden: take a look - my quick guess is that I never noticed locking in the createion - so just add it would be an improvement ...
02:32 < esden> rxr: yes that would be an improovement ...
02:33 < esden> but I will have no time to do that before I leave for CCCamp, dev-meeting and after that I do not know if I get access to the cluster
02:33 < esden> but I will do all in my power to get access to that stuff
02:33 < esden> ohh ...
02:33 < esden> argh ...
02:34 < rxr> shit latex2html does not render my nice checkmarks ... :-(
02:34 < esden> I am so stupid ... I can also read the source and implement locking without the cluster ... *sigh* ... good morining esden
02:36 < rolla> :)
02:38 < esden> ok mail about the download link sent to the mailinglist
02:46 < esden> rxr: what is the command to get over the svn own system ... and what port is it?
02:46 < tsa> n8
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02:46 < esden> I mean the svn:// protocol
02:47 < esden> rxr: you also could consider adding that to the download page ;)
02:50 < gomer> re
02:51 < rxr> For more information about avaiable subversion repositories and advanced usage instruction visit: https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/
02:51 < rxr> is on the page
02:52 < esden> *sigh* why have all info be so deep hided ?
02:52 < rxr> we really do not want to list all the info, tricks and mirror sites on each page, do we?
02:52 < esden> no ... but adding the two protocols would be an improovement if you ask me
02:53 < rxr> we do not want to hide it - the normal use case is there - and all the further stuff gathered on one site
02:53 < rxr> ok - but not all the mirrors and other fluff
02:53 < esden> nooo that not
02:55 < esden> which port is svn:// ?
02:55 < esden> you may include that information too to the _advanced_ nifo page
02:56 < esden> .oO( I think I start to go on rxr's nerves ;) )
02:56 < esden> *noergel* *noergel*
02:56 * -> esden is a noergelman ;)
02:58 < rxr> done
02:58 < rxr> port 3690
02:59 < esden> rxr: thanks
03:00 < esden> ARGH: alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7/rene/test# svn co svn://127.0.0.1/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk
03:00 < esden> svn: Malformed network data
03:00 < esden> svn: Malformed network data
03:00 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7/rene/test#
03:00 < esden> that sux
03:00 < esden> I want to access the tree in a normal way ... *cry*
03:01 < esden> ok ... the problem can be that I have outdated version of svn ...
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03:04 < rxr> esden: still here?
03:04 < rxr> Now the menu has a Download entry
03:04 < rxr> I HOPE YOU LIKE IT !!!
03:05 < esden> rxr: I am here ;)
03:06 < esden> hehe
03:06 < dennis> ahh there it is, i searched 3 day's now for the source ;)
03:06 < esden> argh ... fscking proxy ...
03:06 < esden> I still get the old page
03:07 < rxr> nope not proy the content is only generated every hew (hm duno) half an hour?
03:08 < esden> ahh ... right
03:08 < rxr> few the dynamic content at:
03:08 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/
03:08 < rxr> and login at:
03:08 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/typo3
03:08 < rxr> .....
03:08 * daja77 waves
03:08 < esden> ok ... have to wait ... I do not have access to the typo3 system yet
03:08 < esden> but I wrote an email to cliff about that already
03:08 < rxr> but you can view the dynamic version ...
03:08 < esden> rxr: yes
03:08 * -> esden on my way
03:08 < rxr> without account ...
03:09 < esden> rxr: much better!
03:09 < esden> rxr: you are the best ;)
03:10 < daja77> gn8 rxr and esden, have fun
03:10 < esden> n8 daja77
03:12 < rxr> n8 daja77
03:12 < esden> argh ... malformed data once more
03:12 < esden> ok ... I can not forward the ports using ssh
03:13 < rxr> esden: the malformed data might more like be due to a versoin mismatch between server and client
03:13 < esden> weeee
03:13 < esden> it works
03:13 < esden> it works
03:13 < esden> it works
03:13 < rxr> the svn:// is not yet written in stone and changes between versions
03:13 < esden> suddenly it works when I use http
03:13 < rxr> the https:// is more rock solid
03:14 < rxr> with or without tunneling ?
03:14 < esden> with tunneling
03:14 < esden> but I will try with proxy capability's
03:14 < esden> of svn once more
03:14 < esden> perhups it works now
03:14 < jsaw> gn8 all
03:14 < esden> n8 jsaw
03:15 < rxr> n8 jsaw
03:16 < jsaw> n8 esden, n8 rxr
03:17 < esden> ok I update svn here ... and combined with that I will test Emerge-Pkg
03:17 < rxr> esden: erhm - not yet Emerge please ....
03:17 < esden> o_O
03:17 < rxr> only if you might wanna fix it a bit
03:17 < esden> you are afraid that I start crying once more?
03:17 < esden> hehe
03:17 < esden> ok ...
03:17 < rxr> I wrote it in an hour and teseted it for a few packages
03:18 < esden> good that you warned me ;)
03:18 < rxr> the next day I had to notice that it fails for gaim
03:18 < rxr> it needs cleanups and checking ...
03:19 < esden> ok ... I use Build-Pkg for now ...
03:19 < esden> my head is feeling not like fixing anythig
03:19 < esden> it needs sleep befor I can do such complex stuff
03:20 < esden> I currently can only complain ;)
03:20 < esden> that is not so complicated ;)
03:21 < rxr> ah
03:21 < rxr> btw: Could you fix Alpha - please ? ;-)
03:24 < esden> hehe ... the handbook announcment mail is nice ;)
03:24 < esden> rxr: I will fix it as soon as I have the typo3 account ...
03:28 < gomer> n8
03:28 < rxr> I mean code in ROCK Linux !!!
03:29 < esden> I can not ... I do not have a disc for my alpha
03:29 < esden> I would do it if I had a harddrive for it ...
03:29 < esden> and I do not have money to buy me a disc
03:29 < rxr> why don't you have one anymore ?
03:29 < esden> because the disc died during a build some time ago
03:30 < rxr> hm - SCSI or IDE ?
03:31 < rxr> hm - damn if you would have said that earlier you could have had a 30 GB IDE disk - now it is plugged into the nexus.tfh-berlin.de ...
03:31 < rxr> (and serves ROCK ISOs ...I)
03:31 < esden> the disc that died was scsi
03:32 < esden> but I could also use ide
03:32 < esden> the box is having a ide bus
03:32 < rxr> the most useful disk I have left now is a 2.5" 6GB IDE disk ... if you could use it ... ?
03:32 < esden> 2.5" o_O
03:32 < esden> that is a laptop disc ...
03:33 < rxr> hm - or I put the 2.5" disk into the sparc and you get the 4 GB Seagate one out of it ...
03:33 < rxr> esden: who cares? just plug a 44pin converter into it and it is just nicely functional on any IDE bus ...
03:34 < rxr> hm - or moment - I have some other disks in some crappy x86 boxes in the corner
03:34 < rxr> you get some disk at the camp ;-)
03:34 < rxr> n8 for now - I need sleep ...
03:34 < dennis> gn8 rxr
03:35 < esden> rxr: do I have a converter?
03:35 < esden> do you have one?
03:35 < esden> sorry ...
03:35 < esden> good night rxr
03:35 < esden> have a nice sleep
03:35 < rxr> yes - I have one - but I would like to keep it here for emergency hacks ...
03:35 < esden> yes sure
03:35 < rxr> it is not expensive - obtainable by Conrad for example
03:35 < esden> but also a crappy other disc would do
03:36 < rxr> but I'll search for a normal 3.5" disk ....
03:36 < esden> that would be very helpfull
03:36 < rxr> n8 ;-)
03:36 < esden> so I will take my alpha with me to the camp ;)
03:36 < esden> n8 rxr ;)
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03:42 < dennis> i'll go to bed now, gn8
03:42 < esden> n8 dennis
03:48 < rolla> nacht dennis
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04:24 < esden> n8 *
04:24 < aszlig> gnu n8 esden
04:24 < aszlig> hi all :)
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07:28 < blindcoder> moin
07:30 < starlord> good morning :)
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07:43 < owl> moin
07:44 < scoopexH> moin
07:44 < owl> hi scoopexH
07:46 < blindcoder> moin moin
07:46 < owl> hi blindy
07:46 * blindcoder just ordered himself a GPS Mouse ^^
07:46 < owl> gps mouse?
07:47 < blindcoder> GPS Device :-)
07:47 < owl> *g* not awake, yet?
07:47 < blindcoder> owl: Global Positioning System Receiver.
07:48 < owl> i know what gps is... but mouse?
07:48 < blindcoder> A small device, connectable to USB, PS/2 or RS232 that receives data from up to 12 Satellites about your current Position
07:48 < blindcoder> the receivers are called "Mouse" dunno, why
07:49 < blindcoder> btw. gpsdrive rules ^^
07:49 < blindcoder> it uses maps like this: https://www.vicinity.com/gif?&CT=49.0:10.0:1000000&IC=&W=1280&H=1024&FAM=myblast&LB=
07:49 < blindcoder> and can download them automatically ^^
07:50 < owl> ah so...
07:53 < owl> .oO(i'm not tired, i'm almost dead *crying*)
07:53 < blindcoder> owl: will you be at developer meeting this year? ^^
07:53 < owl> blindcoder: nope
07:54 < blindcoder> owl: too bad...
07:54 < owl> why?
07:55 < blindcoder> just so
07:56 < owl> men and logic...
07:58 < blindcoder> women and understandnig
07:58 < owl> *kick*
08:00 < blindcoder> *rekick
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08:53 < n00kie> moin :)
09:03 < blindcoder> moin n00kie
09:04 < starlord> anyone has that 2.6 kernel,any problems with it?
09:06 < blindcoder> fake runs it AFAIK
09:19 < fake> mornin
09:19 < fake> starlord: on my laptop, no problems
09:19 < fake> starlord: and on my
09:19 < fake> starlord: SMP workstation @home -test2
09:20 < fake> 251 builds total, 249 completed fine, 2 with errors.
09:20 < fake> wee.
09:26 < netrunner> moin
09:34 < netrunner> *g* that wxwindows sounds nice when said as one word
09:35 < blindcoder> netrunner: moin
09:38 < blindcoder> netrunner: you're going to devmeeting in vienna?
09:39 < netrunner> blindcoder: ack
09:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: need/want/have room for a navigator? :-)
09:40 < netrunner> blindcoder: even If I have not yet done that much developing :)
09:40 < netrunner> blindcoder: sure
09:40 < netrunner> blindcoder: fake didn't like me, so enough space left :)
09:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: good :-)
09:41 < blindcoder> netrunner: Then al we need now are Cliffords lat/lon coordinates :D
09:43 < netrunner> blindcoder: vienna isn't that hard to hit.
09:47 < blindcoder> netrunner: sure, but finding clifford then is :-)
09:47 < blindcoder> netrunner: noone found him without calling him I've been told...
09:50 < netrunner> blindcoder: there is www.etb.at ... but many wolf's ... maybe someone knows his first name? M...
09:51 < netrunner> hm ... is building with jailling support already working? I see mysql-perl fail because he cannot find includes of jailed mysql
09:52 < blindcoder> netrunner: Clifford is his first name.
09:52 < blindcoder> at least if I don't totally screw things up now...
09:53 < netrunner> blindcoder: on the page it says M. C. Wold
09:53 < netrunner> s/ld/lf/
09:53 < blindcoder> 02235 42788-2
09:53 < blindcoder> ARGL
09:53 < blindcoder> damn luser-errors...
09:53 < netrunner> blindcoder: ok, now the world knows :)
09:53 * blindcoder hides in shame
09:55 * netrunner tries to call his gs's brother ... but somehow the numbers are wrong :/ and the girl on the other side speaks to fast to understand what she says :(
09:56 < blindcoder> *lol*
09:57 < netrunner> blindcoder: not quite funny. my gf is on the way to there since monday and should arrive today. And I have to call her family that they pick her up, but since I speak only a few words of their tongue I have to reach her brother, who speaks mine.
09:58 < blindcoder> hmm... I c
10:00 < blindcoder> hmm... gpsdrive doesn't work via X-Forward >_<
10:07 < blindcoder> owl: here?
10:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: do you have a gps? then we can use that ...
10:10 < blindcoder> netrunner: I just ordered it :-)
10:10 < blindcoder> netrunner: will be here within the next days, currently I'm preparing my laptop for it.
10:12 < owl> blindcoder: hm. yes. now. yes
10:12 < netrunner> blindcoder: cool ... need a ride to the camp? ;)
10:12 < netrunner> hi owl
10:12 < owl> remoin *yawn*
10:13 < blindcoder> netrunner I'm not attending the camp. no time >_<
10:13 < blindcoder> owl: moin. can you send me your minimal_xfree target?
10:13 < owl> blindcoder: moment. ye.s
10:13 < owl> why?
10:13 < blindcoder> owl: I want to make my laptop into a gps-navigation system, and I need X and a minimal system for that
10:14 < owl> but. please let me first be able to see out of my eyes
10:14 < blindcoder> you can already go on IRC, so you're awake enough to utilize a computer :P
10:14 < owl> nah.
10:15 < blindcoder> netrunner: I'm glad I can scrap together enough overtime for DevMeeting :/
10:20 < netrunner> blindcoder: owl has a speech plugin for her irc client, she does not need to see for that
10:21 < netrunner> gngngn... that cluster build mixes the order again :(
10:22 < blindcoder> netrunner: hehe :-)
10:22 < owl> *g* yes...
10:22 < blindcoder> netrunner: yes, cluster build is completely b0rken, if you ask me
10:22 < owl> blindcoder: dcc?
10:23 < blindcoder> owl: fine with me
10:23 < owl> well
10:23 < netrunner> blindcoder: I do not ask you. I need it. hrmpf.
10:23 < netrunner> it works even most of the time, but cannot handle continued builds
10:23 < blindcoder> netrunner: well, I needed it, too... and in the meantime I'd have been faster building it n one machine than fixing all the problems on a cluster...
10:25 < blindcoder> I still hope to be able to fix it manually to be able to provide ROCK DVDs to CCCamp
10:31 < owl> hrm. subversion seems to "get" the / of https://schillernet.dyndns.org... or am i wrong?
10:31 < owl> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/props.c:673: (apr_err=175002)
10:31 < owl> svn: RA layer request failed
10:31 < owl> svn: The path was not part of a repository
10:31 < owl> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:408: (apr_err=175002)
10:31 < owl> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/'
10:31 < owl> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:81: (apr_err=175002)
10:31 < owl> svn: PROPFIND of '/': 400 Bad Request (https://schillernet.dyndns.org)
10:44 * netrunner decides that his build problems come from jailing. restart without.
10:46 < owl> *gnraf* news are causing depression. more and more
10:47 < netrunner> bye, breakfast
10:47 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,259170,00.html
10:47 < owl> enjoy it...
10:57 < Aard> moin
10:58 < owl> hi Aard
10:58 < Aard> huhu owl
11:05 * blindcoder away for lunch
11:06 < owl> guten hunger
11:20 < n00kie> sleep well :)
11:20 < n00kie> err
11:20 < n00kie> enjoy it :)
11:24 < rxr> re
11:24 < owl> hi rxr
11:38 * blindcoder back
11:38 < blindcoder> hi rxr
11:39 < owl> wb blindcoder
11:39 < mnemoc> i ate a really important password :(
11:40 < blindcoder> as long as it was tasty...
11:40 < mnemoc> :|
11:44 < mnemoc> mental note: never kill the stress playing with important post-its :(
11:46 < rxr> hi mnemoc
11:47 * rxr away buying rolls ...
11:49 < fake> rxr: ping
11:55 < esden> good morning everyone
11:55 < owl> moin lazy student *kick*
11:56 < esden> owl: stfu
11:56 < owl> stfu?
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11:58 < blindcoder> esden: moun
11:58 < blindcoder> esden: moin
11:59 < esden> moin blindcoder
11:59 < esden> blindcoder: have you packaged gpsdrive already?
11:59 < esden> or should I do it ;)
12:01 < blindcoder> esden: I will do it, as soon as I have proven its usefulness
12:01 < blindcoder> esden: which will happen as soon as i have my GPS Mouse :-)
12:01 < esden> blindcoder: you are crying all the time that it is cool o_O
12:01 < esden> blindcoder: that is too long time till then ;)
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12:03 < dennis> morning
12:03 < blindcoder> esden: yes, it _is_ cool... but if it turns out to be too unusable (laggy, for example) it's just plain stupid to include it
12:04 < blindcoder> When I run it at home it is currently _very_ unresponsive when using the simulation mode
12:04 < blindcoder> esden: now, I've been told that that is normal and won't happen with real data, so I'm waiting for my GPS Mouse
12:04 < blindcoder> moin dennis
12:04 < esden> moin dennis
12:05 < esden> blindcoder: ohh ... ok
12:05 < esden> blindcoder: have you used any special options to compile it?
12:05 < blindcoder> esden: only --prefix=/opt/gpsdrive
12:05 < esden> ok good
12:07 < blindcoder> I now bought the little more expensive version (+15EUR) that you can also connect to iPaqs and other mobile devices.
12:08 < esden> nice
12:10 < blindcoder> you still have your Palm? :)
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12:11 < esden> ack
12:12 < esden> hi char msp[]
12:12 < msp[]> moin
12:12 < msp[]> hi esden :)
12:14 < blindcoder> hmm...
12:15 < msp[]> hi blindcoder
12:15 < blindcoder> the readpilots aren't in stock ATM... I shall call again tomorrow to get information about their availability
12:15 < blindcoder> hi msp[]
12:15 < mnemoc> time to sleep... gn8 :)
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12:18 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ...
12:23 < blindcoder> esden: it's two weeks until I need it, so I'm quite positive
12:24 < blindcoder> hehe, somehow I like that shop :-)
12:24 < blindcoder> they have their latitude/longitude position on the contact-website :-)
12:25 < esden> blindcoder: ;)
12:25 < esden> blindcoder: you will have it too soon ;)
12:26 < esden> and I want you to come by by my house so I have the lat/long data too ;)
12:27 < blindcoder> esden: hehe, sure thing :-)
12:27 < blindcoder> esden: if gpsdrive works correctly, then it will be able to record my movement from my home to you :-)
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12:28 < esden> blindcoder: cool
12:28 < esden> and you could mesure how long is the way from you to me and other funny stuff
12:29 < blindcoder> correct :-)
12:31 < blindcoder> and for apollo: this server is located at: xx°yy'zz"N xx°yy'zz"E :-)
12:31 < blindcoder> would also be cool for my car.
12:32 < blindcoder> install laptop in car, connect to a power-outlet which gets modded into the "Handschubfach", connect GPS Mouse and transmit data via mobile phone and SMS to me :-)
12:33 < blindcoder> of course, per request which also is sent via SMS :-D
12:33 < blindcoder> so whenever my car gets stolen, I know exactly where it is :D
12:34 < blindcoder> hmm... I have to talk to Lukki about that...
12:35 < blindcoder> esden: ??? alive?
12:35 < esden> blindcoder: which maps are better? mapblast or expedia?
12:35 < blindcoder> lhmm... he fell from his chair from laughing...
12:36 < blindcoder> esden: I use mapblast since expedia couldn't get connected from my home
12:36 < blindcoder> besides, expedia is now owned by microsoft, so we should use up their bandwidth :D
12:36 < blindcoder> s/expedia/mapblast/
12:37 < esden> ahh ok
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12:46 < A-Tui> hola n00kie
12:51 < esden> blindcoder: does your gps device give also altitude information?
12:54 < blindcoder> if it fully implements the standard it uses, then yes
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13:05 < esden> hmm ... gpsdrive is not supporting proxy's for map download >_<
13:05 < esden> that sux
13:06 < blindcoder> yes, it does
13:06 < esden> it does?
13:06 < blindcoder> export HTTP_PROXY="https://proxies.suck:666"
13:06 < blindcoder> export http_proxy="${HTTP_PROXY}"
13:06 < esden> ahh good
13:07 < blindcoder> I want a TLD .suck :P
13:11 < esden> hehe ... when I choose expedia server gpsdrive drops a core ;)
13:17 < blindcoder> SDDI(tm)
13:20 < daja77> hi
13:22 < fake> hi daja77!
13:23 < daja77> hey fake :)
13:23 < blindcoder> hi daja77
13:23 < fake> esden: i will be on the camp, contrary to popular (including my own) believe
13:23 < daja77> hi blindcoder
13:23 < blindcoder> hmm... the generic target makes good progress now that I switched to single-machine build... the desktop target remains to be seen...
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13:25 < daja77> speaking of generic
13:25 < daja77> 887 builds total, 855 completed fine, 32 with errors.
13:25 < blindcoder> Error logs from default-2.0.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-generic-expert:
13:25 < blindcoder> [5] gnome2/gtk-perl10
13:25 < blindcoder> 886 builds total, 845 completed fine, 1 with errors.
13:25 < daja77> arrgh, how you do that
13:26 < blindcoder> which packages fail over there?
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13:26 < fake> find . -name *.err -exec mv {} `echo {} | sed -e s,.err,.log,` \;
13:26 < blindcoder> *lol*
13:27 < daja77> [2] base/gcc3 [5] mnemoc/boehm-gc
13:27 < daja77> [5] base/gcc3 [5] rene/cpufreqd
13:27 < daja77> [5] base/tar [5] base/sendmail
13:27 < daja77> [5] sirkull/dansguardian [5] rene/lm_sensors
13:27 < daja77> [5] gnome2/gtk-perl10 [5] rene/sylpheed
13:27 < daja77> [5] kde31/kdebindings31 [5] kde31/kdemultimedia31
13:27 < daja77> [5] alessandro/webmin [5] owl/openbox
13:27 < blindcoder> no, but that would be a nice idea :-)
13:27 < daja77> [5] x11/lesstif [5] rene/kmatplot
13:27 < daja77> [5] clifford/mysqlcc [5] tibit/pcsc-lite
13:27 < daja77> [5] rene/samba [5] base/kbd
13:27 < daja77> [5] miguel/gnucash [5] rene/coda
13:27 < fake> find . -name *.err -exec mv {} `echo {} | sed -e s,\.err,\.log,` \; even
13:27 < daja77> [5] tibit/xplanet [5] avm/xtris
13:27 < daja77> [5] blindcoder/koules [5] mnemoc/mono-debugger
13:27 < daja77> [5] praenti/ddd [5] kasc/clanlib
13:27 < daja77> [5] kasc/gnomemeeting [5] kasc/kapitalist
13:27 < daja77> [5] kasc/pingus [5] nikolaus/qtparted
13:27 < daja77> :P
13:27 < blindcoder> daja77: you seem to have a _really_ old svn checkout...
13:28 < blindcoder> tar was fixed fixed a few revs ago, koules ages ago...
13:28 < daja77> hah ages, just 2 or 3 days
13:28 < blindcoder> dansguardian I fixed manually...
13:28 < esden> fake: when will you arrive?
13:28 < esden> and will you be at the dev meeting too?
13:29 < blindcoder> daja77: can you tell me why koules failed?
13:29 < fake> esden: Wed evening i think
13:29 < fake> esden: yesx
13:29 < daja77> rev 898
13:29 < blindcoder> I used 901+a handfu/ of my own fixes...
13:30 < esden> fake: nice
13:30 < fake> esden: aye
13:30 < daja77> koules.c:1045: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
13:30 < daja77> koules.c:1196: warning: no previous prototype for `creators_points'
13:30 < daja77> koules.c: In function `creators_points':
13:30 < daja77> koules.c:1216: syntax error before '/' token
13:30 < daja77> koules.c:1217: too many decimal points in floating constant
13:30 < daja77> koules.c: At top level:
13:30 < daja77> koules.c:1302: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
13:31 < daja77> koules.c:1414: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
13:31 < daja77> koules.c:1558: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
13:31 < daja77> koules.c:1642: warning: no previous prototype for `client_loop2'
13:31 < daja77> koules.c:1661: warning: no previous prototype for `server_loop2'
13:31 < blindcoder> interesting...
13:31 < esden> fake: do you need a place for your sleep tent? should I reserve a place for you? ;)
13:32 < blindcoder> daja77: please dcc me the .err file... can you?
13:32 < daja77> mail would be easier
13:33 < daja77> cos build machine != irc machine ;-)
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13:33 < blindcoder> okay.
13:34 < daja77> address?
13:39 < fake> esden: wood be l33t.
13:39 < fake> esden: near to the bsd tent?
13:40 < daja77> near the babes tent *ggg*
13:40 < esden> fake: sure!
13:41 < esden> daja77: I will try that it is near to both ;)
13:41 < daja77> ic
13:41 < fake> esden: groovy.
13:42 < esden> fake: how big is your tent?
13:42 < daja77> btw can you execute shell commands out of irrsi
13:42 < daja77> irssi
13:44 < blindcoder> shell commands?
13:44 < blindcoder> dunno, but it can run perl-scripts
13:45 * blindcoder is slowly becoming afraid of himself...
13:46 < daja77> yes would be cool if I could fetch a new afs token before irssi crashes cos it has no write access to some files
13:46 < blindcoder> daja77: that's an over-optimization bug in gcc
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13:47 < daja77> having no write access is due afs
13:47 < blindcoder> try with lower optimization (e.g. pentium-mmx)
13:47 < blindcoder> (I mean koules ^^)
13:47 < daja77> ah it is pentium-mmx
13:47 < blindcoder> hmm...
13:48 < blindcoder> that's really strange...
13:48 < blindcoder> I'll have to dig into that as soon as I'm home...
13:48 * daja77 can get famous for strange setups *shudder*
13:50 < blindcoder> hehe
13:51 < esden> ok I can execute a shell in irssi
13:51 < esden> /window new hidden
13:52 < esden> /window name sh
13:52 < esden> /exec -name sh -nosh -interactive -window sh
13:52 < esden> and I have a window with a shell ;)
13:53 < blindcoder> nice :-)
13:53 < esden> blindcoder: reading the documentation on the irssi side helps ;)
13:53 < esden> RTFM rulez ;)
13:53 < blindcoder> esden: you know haw I used to call you?
13:54 < blindcoder> "Walking man-page" :D
13:54 < esden> blindcoder: walking manpage?
13:54 < esden> hehe
13:54 < Aard> argh. is there something like evilwm for windows nt? windows window manager sucks
13:54 < blindcoder> And I just prove that it's still true :D
13:55 < blindcoder> Aard: there's an explorer.exe replacement that starts a NeXT-like desktop..
13:55 < esden> Aard: there is at least a nextstep windowmanager for windows
13:55 < blindcoder> esden: you know what?
13:55 < Aard> esden: is the nextstep windowmanager usable wothout mouse?
13:55 < esden> I used it some time ago ... that was fun ... everybody asked me if I am using linux on that bok ;)
13:55 < fake> esden: 2 ppl sleeping tent, have been invited to the bsd tent...
13:55 < blindcoder> esden: we're doing too much stuff together :D
13:56 < esden> fake: yes the rock project has been invited there ...
13:56 < esden> fake: I will finally take my alpha with me to CCCamp
13:57 < esden> rxr: is searching a disc for it ... *G*
13:57 < esden> blindcoder: yes we are ;)
13:57 < blindcoder> esden: it looks like I'll be able to provide DVDs after all...
13:58 < blindcoder> esden: the stand-alone build is working quite fine so far, so if I move it to my main machine today and then update to HEAD it should be fine
14:01 < esden> blindcoder: nice
14:03 < blindcoder> esden: when will you be going to CCCamp?
14:03 < blindcoder> Tuesday, right?
14:05 < esden> I should leave on monday at 12 o'clock or so
14:06 < esden> but I will try to leave earlier because that are still 7 hours drive or so
14:06 < blindcoder> hrm... that might get close...
14:06 < esden> and I want to have time to build up my tent
14:06 < blindcoder> s/get/become/
14:08 < esden> ?
14:09 < fake> esden: we *may* stop by leipzig tue/wed
14:10 < blindcoder> esden: well, finishing the build, writing the discs etal...
14:13 < esden> fake: ??
14:14 < esden> blindcoder: ahh ... yes ... that may be a problem
14:15 < esden> blindcoder: but perhups fake can take the dvd's with him ... if you will not be ready till monday
14:16 < esden> fake: ?
14:17 < fake> esden: no, i tried to tell you that we may leave on monday, too
14:18 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... we'll see..., it's still 4 days...
14:19 < esden> fake: ohh ... ok ... sorry *headshake*
14:21 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... we will see ;)
14:22 < esden> blindcoder: otherwise you take a car somewhere insert your laptop with gps device in it ... link it to the steering wheel and pedals, put the dvd's in the car too and sends it over to us in berlin ;)
14:23 < blindcoder> *lol*
14:23 < blindcoder> sounds like a nice idea :D
14:23 < esden> blindcoder: full ack
14:23 < esden> blindcoder: that would be a nice pr for rocklinux ;-)
14:24 < blindcoder> but I'd also have to put some proximity sensors into it so that the car doesn't crash in traffic jams and other useless things on the street (like other cars)
14:24 < blindcoder> hmm...
14:25 < blindcoder> gimme a car, the sensors, and two weeks time :D
14:25 < daja77> fake: why leipzig?
14:26 < esden> blindcoder: you get one euro to buy the car and 4 days time ;)
14:26 < esden> I mean one week ...
14:27 < blindcoder> esden: what about the sensors?
14:28 < esden> you get another euro to get the sensors ... that is expensive stuff if you want them to be exact ;) ... so the same amount of money for the sensors as for the car ;)
14:29 < fake> daja77: just for fun
14:29 < blindcoder> hmm... I just might be able to do it with that budget... but I'm not quite sure if the car will be big enough to carry DVDs
14:29 < esden> I really ask myself how are the bmw guys doing with their autopilot system ...
14:30 < daja77> thx esden
14:30 < daja77> fake: hehe wanna buy cheap drugs *ggg*
14:32 < daja77> hmm doesn't work the way I'd need it, anyay
14:32 < daja77> anyway
14:35 * daja77 could drive to L too ...
14:36 * daja77 wondering why we don't use iso time format on hp
14:38 < esden> humm ... clifford's response time is bad as always >_<
14:39 < daja77> hehe esden complaining about latency
14:39 < esden> daja77: his latency is worse then mine!
14:40 < blindcoder> daja77: well, he's got plenty of expperience with that :D
14:40 < daja77> unbelievable
14:40 < daja77> hehe
14:41 * daja77 notes that teasing esden is fun
14:41 < blindcoder> daja77: yes, yes, it indeed is :D
14:41 < daja77> :)
14:42 < esden> *weep* daja77 you are so mean
14:42 * daja77 evil
14:42 < esden> blindcoder you too :(
14:43 < daja77> even if we must be careful not to tease esden's mum *ggg*
14:43 * daja77 hides
14:43 < rolla> re
14:44 < esden> daja77: you evil? *ROFL* ... you have to work on it ... the only really evil person I know is Armijn
14:44 < daja77> hi rolla
14:44 < rolla> fake:
14:44 < esden> ;-)
14:44 < fake> daja77: you got me.
14:44 < fake> rolla: hi!
14:44 < esden> hi rolla
14:44 < blindcoder> esden: grandpa armijn?
14:44 < rolla> esden: answered this yesterday but I want to see what you say
14:44 < daja77> I am older than armijn ...
14:44 < rolla> octanes can they run linux ?
14:45 < esden> daja77: but armijn is more evil then you ;)
14:45 < fake> rolla: not sure, see linux-mips.org
14:45 < daja77> yes...yes he is
14:45 < fake> rolla: there's a list
14:45 * daja77 is a good boy
14:46 * daja77 notes he could be lying
14:46 < esden> daja77: you are, you are
14:46 < rolla> dang
14:46 < rolla> oh well
14:46 < blindcoder> anyone knows which package contains `csant`?
14:47 < daja77> esden: how do you know :P
14:47 < blindcoder> it's missing and so kdebindings31 fails..
14:47 < rolla> fake: I could get my hands on 2 octanes but they are not supported
14:47 < esden> ohh .. that is interestin R10000 is supported .. I always thought it is not ...
14:48 < rolla> Creating initrd filesystem image:
14:48 < rolla> -> Creating temporary files.
14:48 < rolla> !> No free loopback device found!
14:48 < rolla> why do I keep getting this
14:49 < blindcoder> rolla: a) you have no devfs in your kernel
14:49 < rolla> ?
14:49 < rolla> I should mom
14:49 < blindcoder> rolla: b) you have no loopback support in your kernel
14:49 < blindcoder> rolla: or c) all /dev/loop/* are in use
14:49 < rolla> none on /dev type devfs (rw)
14:52 < rolla> blindcoder: where do I find loopback support in the kernel
14:52 < blindcoder> mom
14:53 < blindcoder> Block devices --->
14:53 < blindcoder> <*> Loopback device support
14:53 < rolla> yup that is compiled in
14:53 < rolla> hmmm
14:55 < blindcoder> then check with losetup /dev/loop/[0-9] where the loopbacks are used
14:55 < rolla> okay
14:55 * blindcoder going home now, byebye
14:58 < esden> cu blindcoder
15:00 < rolla> grrr
15:00 < rolla> root@woden:~# losetup /dev/loop/0
15:00 < rolla> loop: can't get info on device /dev/loop/0: No such device or address
15:01 < rolla> esden: you have any ideas?
15:02 < esden> humm ... no idea sorry
15:02 < rolla> damn
15:03 < esden> rolla: I get the same error
15:03 < rolla> during your build
15:03 < esden> no when I run losetup
15:04 < rolla> hmm okay
15:04 < rolla> I guess I need to wait for blindcoder to get home
15:19 < esden> rofl ... I have to copy patches from debian to get the socket package working ...
15:19 < esden> that is really sad
15:20 < fake> when loop is built as module, the /dev/loop/[0..8] devices show up on load
15:20 < fake> o...7
15:20 < rolla> yeah I have 0-7 there in /dev/loop
15:20 < fake> losetup should be done by the scripts...
15:20 < rolla> how do I tell if the dev's are being used and not free
15:21 < fake> here it works...
15:22 < fake> kernel 2.6.0-test1, losetup from util-linux v. 2.11z
15:22 < fake> rolla: losetup -d /dev/loop/0
15:23 < rolla> mom
15:23 < fake> losetup /dev/loop/0 should give info
15:24 < fake> if it says something about "no such device or address", the device is not used
15:24 < rolla> I am testing the rock build one more time
15:24 < rolla> okay
15:24 < rolla> cp: cannot create directory `/build/rock-trunk/build/boot-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-32-bootdisk/bootdisk/initrd_22171.dir/net': No space left on device
15:24 < fake> it it is used, it shows the filename, offest and encryption behind the loopdev
15:25 < rolla> what the
15:25 < fake> doh.
15:25 < rolla> okay
15:25 < daja77> lol
15:25 < rolla> now it built
15:25 < rolla> but why does it say no space left on device?
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15:27 < rolla> I am compiling a new kernel
15:27 < rolla> fake: is 2.6 good?
15:28 < fake> rolla: it's as good as 2.5
15:29 < rolla> I never ran 2.5
15:29 < rolla> only 2.4.21
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15:29 < rolla> blindcod1r:
15:32 < esden> he only reconnected ... he is still on his way ;)
15:33 < rolla> :(
15:33 * daja77 gives a cookie to rolla
15:34 < rolla> thanks
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15:34 < owl> re
15:34 < esden> *sigh* fixing socket will be a problem
15:34 < esden> re owl
15:34 < rolla> re owl
15:34 < esden> no not problem ... it will be a lot of work
15:36 < daja77> fake: I'll modifiy your/our record on event registration?!
15:41 < starlord> hmm,i buing new laptop and found one that is cheap and "good",but it has quite small harddrive only 30gb,is it big enough? considering that rock leaves installed(compiled sources on hd)?
15:42 < daja77> 30gb is enough
15:43 < daja77> you should consider toggle the "remove src dirs even if package fails" option
15:43 * daja77 even compiled on 20gb drive
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15:49 < owl> wb fake
15:49 < daja77> fake: ?
15:50 < fake> hm?
15:50 < fake> daja77: telekom
15:50 < daja77> is it ok for you if I change the record on event registration?
15:51 < fake> daja77: you can't change my record, can you?
15:51 < daja77> I'll try
15:51 < fake> hehe. as if i hadn't tried to screw it all up already. muhaha.
15:51 < daja77> Password incorrect !!!
15:51 < daja77> hmm have you set one?
15:52 < fake> daja77: it got mailed to me...
15:53 < daja77> well so you might change it with it
15:53 < daja77> the record with it
15:53 < fake> daja77: aye!
15:54 < daja77> .oO /me never been a captain ;-)
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15:59 < fake> daja77: updated as ordered, sir!
16:01 < daja77> thank you number one *ggg*
16:01 < mistik1> moin all
16:01 < fake> daja77: huh?
16:01 < fake> ah
16:01 * fake has no full beard
16:02 < mistik1> why not
16:02 < daja77> riker had none when he started
16:02 < fake> because i like the asshole-beard i have.
16:02 < fake> it suits me well.
16:02 < daja77> daja's mid-range battlecruiser (galaxy class) *lol*
16:02 < fake> daja77: right. but i don't like riker.
16:02 < mistik1> what could smooth the thought process better than stroking ones beard
16:02 * daja77 neither
16:03 < fake> mistik1: ack
16:03 < daja77> okis I'll stroke yours, mistik1
16:03 < mistik1> heh
16:03 < daja77> :)
16:03 < mistik1> nah, that's for me and the wife to stroke
16:04 < daja77> ok then I have to stop thinking :D
16:04 < mistik1> and my daughters, when they want something of daddy
16:04 < owl> wife, daughter?
16:04 * owl ph34rs mistik1
16:04 < owl> hi mistik1
16:04 < mistik1> hey owl
16:05 < mistik1> yes 4 daughters has given me a few gray streaks
16:05 < owl> 4 daughters?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:05 < fake> omfg!
16:05 < owl> full ack, fake
16:05 < fake> i bow before you!
16:05 < mistik1> yes ;)
16:06 < daja77> so you have 5 women against you
16:06 * fake declares mistik1 the great, wise guy
16:06 < mistik1> at all times
16:06 < daja77> I thought one could be enough ...
16:06 < fake> your wisdom must be endless
16:06 < fake> daja77: common misconception.
16:06 < mistik1> I have an endless supply of Andrew, daddy daddy daddy
16:07 < daja77> you got crazy, that's why you ended up here
16:07 < mistik1> lol
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16:24 < Mike1> Good day all.
16:24 < SMP> hi Mike
16:24 < Mike1> greetings SMP.
16:28 < owl> <-- off
16:29 < Mike1> owl!!!
16:29 * -> esden jumping around and kicking stuff
16:29 < Mike1> esden: are you ok?
16:29 < esden> hi Mike1, SMP
16:30 < esden> Mike1: yes I am ;) ... I only try to get a program with the beautifull name socket to work as expected
16:30 < Mike1> esden: hehe
16:30 < Mike1> God bless you esden
16:30 < esden> god bless you too Mike1
16:30 < Mike1> :)
16:31 < Mike1> ping daja77
16:31 < SMP> gosh. kio_fish is crazy
16:33 < daja77> hi Mike1
16:33 < esden> aaargh ... it works on the other box ... why!
16:34 < daja77> and pong
16:34 < Mike1> daja77: great you are here
16:34 * daja77 wants to see esden jumping
16:34 < daja77> Mike1: why
16:34 < Mike1> daja77: shoot his feet with your water pistol and you will even see him dance
16:34 < daja77> hehe
16:34 < Mike1> daja77: see query
16:34 * -> esden is too confused for now ...
16:35 < fake> i want you to jump around, jump around, jump around...
16:38 < esden> argh it works!!!
16:38 < esden> I really ask myself why!
16:39 < esden> it seems that as always it was my stupidity >_<
16:41 < esden> ok ... now I can add the socket packet
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16:53 < gomer> re
16:57 * daja77 now off for grandpa's birthday
16:57 < daja77> cu
16:57 < Mike1> hello gomer
17:03 < rolla> re Mike1
17:03 < Mike1> hello rolla
17:03 * blindcoder back
17:03 < Mike1> blindy!
17:04 < esden> hi gomer re blindcoder
17:04 < blindcoder> Mike1!
17:04 < blindcoder> esden: re
17:05 < rolla> https://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93214,00.html
17:05 < rolla> ah yes american unions at there best
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17:33 < rolla> blindcoder: you there?
17:33 < blindcoder> rolla: yes
17:33 < blindcoder> Mike1: I'm sorry to say it, but you forgot updating hte checksum in linux-2.6.0-test2 ...
17:35 < blindcoder> rolla: what's up?
17:36 < rolla> I had an issue with loopback
17:37 < rolla> they were all fine but it still would not work
17:37 < blindcoder> hmm... and now?
17:37 < rolla> and then like magic I ran the build-target again and it worked but I got an odd error message
17:37 < rolla> -> Writing initrd image file.
17:37 < rolla> cp: writing `/build/rock-trunk/build/boot-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-32-bootdisk/bootdisk/initrd_22171.dir/linuxrc': No space left on device
17:37 < rolla> cp: cannot create directory `/build/rock-trunk/build/boot-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-32-bootdisk/bootdisk/initrd_22171.dir/net': No space left on device
17:38 < rolla> cp: cannot create directory `/build/rock-trunk/build/boot-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-32-bootdisk/bootdisk/initrd_22171.dir/proc': No space left on device
17:38 < rolla> cp: cannot create directory `/build/rock-trunk/build/boot-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-32-bootdisk/bootdisk/initrd_22171.dir/scsi': No space left on device
17:38 < rolla> cp: cannot create directory `/build/rock-trunk/build/boot-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-32-bootdisk/bootdisk/initrd_22171.dir/tmp': No space left on device
17:38 < rolla> -> Removing temporary files.
17:38 < rolla> oops
17:38 < rolla> what would cause that ?
17:38 < rolla> too many lines
17:38 < blindcoder> do you have msdosfs in your kernel?
17:38 < rolla> hmm not sure let me check
17:39 < rolla> <*> MSDOS fs support
17:39 < rolla> yes it is there
17:40 < blindcoder> hm... at least that was the problem I had...
17:41 < mistik1> would that big ole NO SPACE ON DEVICE help any?
17:41 < rolla> nope
17:41 < rolla> 60G of space only 4% used
17:42 < esden> humm cksum error for services file ...
17:42 < Mike1> blindcoder: i know, i will send the good patch in a moment, got the wrong one.
17:43 < blindcoder> Mike1: okay ^^
17:43 < blindcoder> esden: maybe new ports got added?
17:45 < rolla> I hate windows
17:45 < esden> blindcoder: dunno ... I do not have the old services file version ...
17:45 < esden> blindcoder: could you check that?
17:45 < blindcoder> just a moment
17:50 < rolla> anyone have any ideas on that error?
17:52 < blindcoder> esden: yes, it completely changed as it seems... 17603 lines diff
17:52 < christ|an> hui
17:53 < esden> blindcoder: so I create a patch for it ...
17:56 < blindcoder> esden: good
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17:59 < LocalHero> Hi all
17:59 < esden> hi LocalHero
18:00 < LocalHero> esden, whazup
18:00 < esden> LocalHero: hacking ;)
18:01 < LocalHero> nice :)
18:01 < LocalHero> rxr. Are you there?
18:01 < LocalHero> Who maintains www.rocklinux.org?
18:03 < esden> does anyone of you find in his headerfiles the definition of u_short ?
18:04 < esden> LocalHero: clifford and other people that have access to the CMS
18:04 < esden> LocalHero: why?
18:04 < LocalHero> fts.h, pcap.h resolv.h is the one i have
18:05 < esden> humm
18:05 < LocalHero> esden, it sound so silly on the downloadpage when it says LocalHeros Iso arcive and the text that are supplied
18:06 < esden> LocalHero: write an email to the mailinglist ;)
18:08 * Mike1 is away: - paperwork
18:09 < LocalHero> Yupp i will. when im not sick anymore. Got high feber :(.. Thats why the iso site is still sh*t
18:09 < LocalHero> oki, cya
18:09 < rolla> yawn
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18:15 < esden> rolla: do not yawn ... be productive ;)
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18:16 < rolla> I am trying but I cannot work when stuff in rock do not work
18:17 * netrunner enjoying a dwb
18:18 < netrunner> esden: we just did tuev for the bimobil :) and put a new gascan in there.
18:18 < netrunner> esden: only thing still missing is 2 functional batterys for the bord power
18:28 < esden> netrunner: hmm ... can we live without it?
18:28 < esden> humm ... I need aszlig!!!
18:28 < esden> imediatly >_<
18:31 < blindcoder> aszlig?
18:31 < blindcoder> what the fsck would someone need aszlig for?
18:32 < esden> he has a patch for tetradraw ... and I need it!!!
18:41 < starlord> anyone using logitech cordless desktop deluxe optical mouse & keyboard combo? or anyone have know that it should work?
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18:42 < Drachenfuerst> hi ;-)
18:42 < christ|an> hio
18:42 < christ|an> everything okay? :)
18:45 < Drachenfuerst> baibai! i will go back in THE channels which i feel i am right there
18:45 < Drachenfuerst> !quit
18:45 < Drachenfuerst> eh
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18:46 < blindcoder> drachi o_0
18:50 < rolla> what was that?
18:50 < blindcoder> I "fear" it was someone I know ^^
18:52 < rolla> okay strange
18:52 < blindcoder> yes, that's something she definately is
18:53 < esden> blindcoder: I feel the same ;)
18:53 < blindcoder> esden: hehe
18:55 < jsaw> starlord: /usr/X11/lib/X11/kbd/README.config states "Logitech cordless desktop keyboard" for example. Or see [...]/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst.
18:59 * blindcoder thinks about going insane
19:01 < starlord> jsaw:damm i'm on pc that doesnt have X,but if it states that then it should work
19:02 < jsaw> starlord: what connection type is the kbd?
19:02 < jsaw> starlord: usb/ps2?
19:03 < jsaw> starlord: make sure input and keybdev/whatever hid is loaded/compiled into the kernel
19:03 < starlord> usb,it does have ps2 adapter
19:03 < jsaw> so go for input and keybdev (or sth like that)
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19:05 * starlord is going for sauna
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19:16 < esden> very good ... now I have the patch !!!
19:16 < esden> *happy*
19:17 < esden> on friday we release finally the next version of tetradraw .. and I package it for rock ;)
19:20 < netrunner> argl, xfee86 still failing.
19:22 < mnemoc> still? o_O
19:22 < netrunner> mnemoc: yes. I thought it was because of jailing, like mysql-perl does not find a jailed mysql ...
19:23 < netrunner> mnemoc: but it fails. I'll send a mail to the list since I have to search some tires for the camper for the camp now.
19:24 < esden> netrunner: from which trash can have you got that camper?
19:24 < esden> ;)
19:25 < netrunner> esden: psst .. he is reading here!
19:26 < netrunner> esden: We got tuev without problems today.
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19:26 < netrunner> esden: it's just that we put on the winter tires, because the broad ones weren't in the papers. Now we are searching some cool ones for the drive to berlin.
19:27 < esden> netrunner: ahh ok
19:27 < esden> netrunner: and you need also batteries?
19:28 < esden> netrunner: I have another issue for you ... pleas take the usb disc box with you ;)
19:30 < mnemoc> netrunner: i read that the /usr/X11 bug was fixed
19:34 < esden> ok ... tetradraw packaged ;)
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19:58 < Mike1> welcome in siuyen
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19:59 < blindcoder> well, that was fast
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20:07 < netrunner> esden: you drawed a tetrapack?
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20:11 < esden> netrunner: lool ... no
20:11 < esden> I drawed only some of the issues you can find in rocklinux ;)
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20:18 < blindcoder> "If she's alive I _will_ try to jump her - and then I'll dump her."
20:18 < blindcoder> I _like_ that song!
20:19 < gsturm> hi, i'm new to rocklinux. i've installed the beta6 from a iso image succesfully on my machine, so i have just one question. i would like to connect to the internet by pppoe, are there already packages or how do i handle this?
20:19 < blindcoder> "Monica has gone away, maybe Miss America wirll come my way!"
20:19 < blindcoder> gsturm: I'm afraid there's no pppoe package yet
20:20 < gsturm> hmm, i have to download it, get it on my rock machine, and compile it?
20:20 < blindcoder> yes
20:20 < blindcoder> https://www.roaringpenguin.org/roaringp/pppoe/
20:20 < gsturm> yes, thanks
20:20 < blindcoder> it's simple to compile, just run ./go or ./go_gui IIRC
20:21 < gsturm> thx blindcoder
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20:45 < rxr> re
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21:22 < netrunner> ah ... /me just found out how to configue multiple smarthosts
21:23 < rxr> gsturm: yes - it is on my todo for some time now (it was present in dRock)
21:24 < rxr> I could finally repackage pppd so you could have DSL support tomorrow ...)
21:24 < gsturm> ahh, that would be very nice :)
21:24 < Mike1> rxr: hi.
21:24 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:25 < daja77> re
21:25 < Mike1> daja77: :)
21:25 < daja77> Mike1: :)
21:25 < Mike1> rxr: this pppd fi should be fine for router as well?
21:26 < rxr> hm ?
21:27 < Mike1> rxr: i read the mail regarding router target on the list
21:28 < Mike1> brb
21:29 < daja77> hi rxr
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21:38 < daja77> rxr: have your servers telekom ips?
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21:51 < rxr> daja77: no
21:51 < Nebukadneza> anyone with ut2k3 running on a linuxbox?
21:51 < rxr> it is not resold t-online crap ...
21:51 < daja77> good, telekom ips are blockd by dyndns
21:51 < rxr> Nebukadneza: only Quake III here ...
21:51 < daja77> Nebukadneza: I once had
21:51 < rxr> daja77: hm?
21:51 < Nebukadneza> rxr: hm ... nope ... not the same installer
21:52 < Nebukadneza> daja77: once had ... how did you install it? i have some "bugs" in the installer
21:52 < daja77> rxr: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ad-30.07.03-000/
21:53 < daja77> Nebukadneza: dunno, worked somehow
21:55 < Nebukadneza> hm
21:56 < daja77> was a demo version only
21:59 < Nebukadneza> ah
21:59 < Nebukadneza> okay
21:59 < Nebukadneza> thats another thing
22:00 < Nebukadneza> but i found it ... M$-evil-joilet support
22:05 < esden> M$-evil-toilet ???
22:05 < Nebukadneza> joilet ... a cdrom fs extension
22:06 < esden> there is really such thing .. toilets with internet terminals that run Win 2000 or so
22:06 < Nebukadneza> i know ...
22:06 < Nebukadneza> and a full digital kitchen with windows ce ... it crashed on all machines and started to burn *G*
22:06 < daja77> _shit_ happens
22:06 < Nebukadneza> and that is no joke
22:06 < Nebukadneza> it was somewhere in korea
22:08 < esden> Nebukadneza: it is called joliet ...
22:08 < Nebukadneza> argh
22:09 < esden> ;-)
22:09 * Nebukadneza jumps off a bridge
22:09 < esden> hehe ... you like bungee jumping?
22:09 < Nebukadneza> nope
22:09 < Nebukadneza> i hate such thing
22:10 < esden> ohh ... :(
22:10 < esden> so why are you jumping off a bridge?
22:10 < esden> paragliding?
22:11 < Nebukadneza> suicide *G*
22:11 < Nebukadneza> "it is called joliet ..."<- thats why
22:11 < Nebukadneza> *G*
22:11 < rxr> has anyone here taken a look into the ROCK Handbook ?
22:12 < esden> hehe ... southpark on viva!!! ;)
22:12 < Nebukadneza> *argh*
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22:14 < dennis> hi
22:15 < daja77> rxr: not yet ...
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22:25 < esden> rxr: /me not yet
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22:27 < rxr> the schillnet will be down for some seconds to test the new ppp package in rock with pppoe support ...
22:28 < daja77> schillnet *lol*
22:28 < esden> schildnet ...
22:28 < esden> sounds even better
22:29 < esden> chillnet is also ok
22:29 < esden> but schillnet?
22:29 < daja77> schill that right wing guy from hamburg
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22:30 < Nebukadneza> daja77: hmm good explained!
22:31 < esden> dennis: ahh ok ;-)
22:31 < Mike1> lol
22:32 < christ|an> mike you are online?
22:32 < Mike1> christ|an: not really, just wanted to give a last laught :)
22:32 < Mike1> n8 all.
22:34 < christ|an> lol n8
22:34 < esden> n8 Mike1
22:35 < daja77> n8 Mike1, huh?
22:40 * Mike1 is back (gone 04:32:09)
22:40 < Mike1> daja77: i need to sleep
22:40 < Mike1> :)
22:44 < daja77> in the afternoon, ts
22:44 < Freak> afternoon?!
22:45 < daja77> in cr yes
22:45 < Freak> what time is it there
22:47 < Freak> if its <8pm, that's perfectly *morning* ;)
22:47 < daja77> hehe
22:49 < Freak> dang.. a visitor at linuxtag told me about an application which I then installed because it was pretty cool and useful.. but I forgot the name..
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22:49 < Freak> it graphically monitors your network-connections..
22:49 < daja77> etherreal?
22:51 < Freak> nein
22:51 < Freak> es machte so..
22:51 < Freak> son..
22:51 < Freak> ja also
22:51 < Freak> da waren so striche
22:52 < Freak> die gingen von deinem rechner in der mitte aus zu den rechnern die du connectet hattest..
22:52 < Freak> und
22:52 < Freak> die waren farbig
22:52 < Freak> verschiedene farben für verschiedene services..
22:52 < daja77> hmm dunno
22:52 < Freak> whoops
22:52 < Freak> I switched to german
22:52 < Freak> =)
22:52 < Freak> I'm brainf*cked.
22:53 < Nebukadneza> Freak: i think i know what you mean, but i dont remeber the name too
22:53 < Freak> naaah :(
22:53 < Nebukadneza> *G*
22:53 < Nebukadneza> badbad
22:53 < owl> rehi
22:54 < daja77> huhu owl
22:55 < Nebukadneza> hi owl
22:55 < owl> hi daja77
22:57 < esden> I used such thing on the last CCC
22:57 < esden> but I do not remember the name either ...
22:58 < Freak> its called etherape!
22:59 < Freak> found it in my .bash_history
22:59 < Nebukadneza> löl
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23:05 < owl> hi dennis
23:10 < Freak> aua
23:11 < Freak> uhm
23:11 < Freak> ouch
23:11 < daja77> wtf you are doin?
23:11 < Freak> there are way to many connections to keep track of the important ones..
23:11 < owl> s?
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23:13 < rxr> re
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23:14 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,259324,00.html << *jumping out of window*
23:15 < rxr> re#
23:15 < owl> wb rxr
23:15 < owl> re# - too much .NET....
23:15 < rxr> strange - does your clients showed two disconnects of me in the last minutes ?
23:15 < daja77> no disconnects from you
23:15 < rxr> hm
23:16 < rxr> magic
23:16 < rxr> I reconnected DSL two times ...
23:17 < daja77> phear rxr's magic
23:17 < Freak> heh
23:18 < daja77> rxr: does it mean I can do a handbook checkout now?
23:18 < rxr> daja77: yes - should be possible ...
23:18 < rxr> I'll update SVN in some hours ...
23:18 < rxr> cu later
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23:19 < daja77> 0.26?
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23:39 < owl> gn8
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23:39 < daja77> n8 owl
23:41 < kaerF> mmhh..
23:42 * daja77 np Weird Al - Couch Potato
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