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--- Log opened Thu Jul 31 00:00:55 2003 --- Day changed Thu Jul 31 2003 00:03 < rxr> re 00:03 < daja77> wb rxr 00:03 < rxr> daja77: yes 0.26 ... 00:03 < daja77> ic 00:03 < rxr> or is there some known problem with it ? 00:04 < daja77> i hope not 00:04 < daja77> haven't read their chan recently 00:06 < rxr> you check'ed out the handbook ? 00:06 < daja77> i did 00:06 < rxr> do you already have some comments ? 00:07 < daja77> yes I'd prefer using pdflatex instead of ps2pdf 00:10 < rxr> hm - don't I do this already ... 00:10 < rxr> ah - I used dvi2pds or so ... 00:10 < rxr> I guess pdf latex will do links and native pictures ? 00:11 < daja77> yes 00:11 < daja77> but you'd need some src changes for that 00:11 < rxr> hm - why and of what kind? 00:11 < daja77> i could do that for you, tomorrow if you like 00:12 < rxr> would I still be able to generate normal .dvi and html stuff 00:12 < rxr> (although the latex2html sucks anyway ...) 00:12 < daja77> hmm I could send you an example document which can be used to produce both outputs 00:14 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:15 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:16 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:19 < rxr> daja77: if you like - feel free to send it over ... 00:19 * daja77 looking for it 00:21 < Aard> hm. how can I boot windows from a grub promt? :) 00:21 < daja77> mom 00:23 < rxr> Aard: chainloader (hd?,?) +1 00:23 < rxr> IIRC 00:24 < Aard> rxr: `filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist' 00:24 < daja77> yes chainloader 00:25 < daja77> makeactive (hdx,x) before 00:25 < SMP> a) grub comes with an example_menu.lst b) RTFM 00:25 < Nebukadneza> rxr: what means IIRC? 00:26 < daja77> irish internet relation chat 00:26 < Nebukadneza> omg 00:26 < Nebukadneza> why irish? 00:26 < esden> daja77: nice ;) 00:27 < daja77> just kidding 00:27 < daja77> :) 00:27 < Nebukadneza> omg 00:27 < Nebukadneza> does anyone know how to burn bin/cue? 00:27 < esden> Nebukadneza: IIRC = "If I Recall Correctly" 00:28 < esden> Nebukadneza: jargon file is your friend ;) 00:28 < Nebukadneza> jargon file? 00:28 < Nebukadneza> *mowl* 00:28 < daja77> google is your friend 00:28 < SMP> Nebukadneza: k3b knows bin/cue 00:29 < Nebukadneza> SMP: if i try it with k3b it says there is no empty cd ... but the cd IS empty and it burns iso images (2minutes later, not rebootet or something) without problems 00:29 < SMP> cool 00:30 < SMP> another case of: Gnome looks bad and doesn't work and KDE looks good and doesn't work as well 00:31 < esden> Nebukadneza: https://www.jargonfile.com/ 00:31 * -> esden has to do something about his latency >_< 00:31 < Nebukadneza> use fluxbox 00:31 < Nebukadneza> looks cool and works well 00:32 < Nebukadneza> löl 00:32 < SMP> Nebukadneza: can fluxbox burn your cue files? :-> 00:32 < esden> argh a umlaut character!!! *run* 00:32 < Nebukadneza> "Gnome looks bad and doesn't work and KDE looks good and doesn't work as well" <--<-- 00:33 < esden> SMP: windowmanagers are not for burning cd's ;) 00:33 * SMP can't see umlauts in ISO-8859-15 because konsole is too stupid to do charset translation 00:33 < esden> SMP: you are lucky ;) 00:33 < SMP> gnome-terminal can do it, but it messes up the screen "$)(/$/"&%§ 00:34 < esden> SMP: they look terrible 00:34 * daja77 uses gnome-terminal under kde 00:34 < Nebukadneza> doh 00:34 < n00kie_> lol daja77 00:34 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082DE68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:34 < tsa> hi all. 00:34 < n00kie_> [00:26] daja77 | irish internet relation chat 00:34 < n00kie_> lol 00:34 < n00kie_> :) 00:34 * Nebukadneza uses eterm in fluxbox 00:34 < n00kie_> hey tsa 00:34 < esden> daja77: you get more and more a evil man ... 00:34 < esden> daja77: you get really better in it ;) 00:34 * n00kie_ uses XTerm 00:34 * -> esden uses ETerm 00:35 * tsa uses brain 00:35 < Nebukadneza> esden: jeah 00:35 < esden> and ATerm 00:35 < tsa> :-P 00:35 < n00kie_> yeah 00:35 < tsa> A-Team? ;-) 00:35 < daja77> esden: of course i was nice to you this morning ;-) 00:35 < n00kie_> ATerm rocks 00:35 < esden> tsa: that is new ... 00:35 * Nebukadneza got to go 00:35 < Nebukadneza> cya 00:35 < Nebukadneza> gn8 00:35 < tsa> cu Nebukadneza 00:35 < n00kie_> sleep well, Nebukadneza :) 00:35 < Nebukadneza> dream of penguins slaughtering billy 00:35 < Nebukadneza> *hrhr* 00:35 < rxr> hi tsa 00:35 < tsa> hi rxr 00:35 < n00kie_> hi Rene 00:36 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:36 < esden> daja77: sure you were nice ... owl was less nice ... she kicked me just after I woke up ... 00:36 < daja77> she always kicks someone 00:36 < daja77> good it was you 00:36 < n00kie_> I never got kicked :) 00:36 * -> esden kicks n00kie_ 00:36 < esden> n00kie_: do you feel better now? 00:36 < tsa> rxr: regarding wxwindows...i had it installed here before and needed to upgrade...and just making a rock package of it was quite easy.. 00:37 < n00kie_> yeah esden 00:37 < n00kie_> kick me esden 00:37 < n00kie_> kick me 00:37 < daja77> rxr: big attachement, sorry 00:37 < n00kie_> i need that 00:37 < n00kie_> ;-) 00:37 < esden> n00kie_: no 00:37 < n00kie_> no? :( 00:37 < daja77> n00kie_: come to dev meeting, so that we can kick you there 00:37 < rxr> tsa: jupst just wxwindows worked just fine - only rapid svn had link problems. .. 00:37 < esden> daja77: that will be the social event ... kicking n00kie_ ;) 00:38 < rxr> hm - typing on a keyboard after palyin half an hour guitar feels strange 00:38 < tsa> ah, i see. 00:38 < n00kie_> ;) 00:38 < daja77> yes the celebration 00:38 < rxr> hm - so soft here - no steel strings ... 00:38 < n00kie_> steel? 00:38 < n00kie_> o_O 00:38 < daja77> rxr: cool will you play in vienna? 00:38 < esden> rxr: you could mod your keyboard ... 00:39 < rxr> hm - I should train some weeks so I can play better again 00:39 < SMP> btw. I will have my new laptop for CCC - Sony GRT796SP :-]] 00:39 < daja77> hehe guitar to keyboard translator 00:39 < rxr> (I have not trained that much over the last years ...) 00:39 < rxr> SMP: you are a Sony fan ? 00:40 < daja77> so we I guess he have to let esden sing ... 00:40 * n00kie_ has no laptop 00:40 < n00kie_> yeah 00:40 * tsa neither 00:40 < n00kie_> and you're the dancing mascot, daja 00:40 < daja77> doh 00:40 < daja77> yes 00:40 < daja77> but blindcoder is the mascot ... 00:40 < SMP> P4 2.5 GHz, 1 GB RAM, GeForce FX Go 5600, 80 GB HB, 16.1" display :] 00:40 < n00kie_> o_O 00:40 < SMP> rxr: well, a satisfied user 00:41 < n00kie_> This laptop is faster then my fastest workstation ;-) 00:41 < rxr> hm - my iBook is also faster then the RS/6000 B50 ... *lol* 00:41 < daja77> hehe 00:41 < rxr> this is why I do a cluster build with two jobs on the iBook ... 00:41 < rxr> and only one on the RS/6000 .... 00:41 < SMP> hehe 00:43 < daja77> d'oh havent checked if the sample doc uses the hyperref package 00:43 < daja77> no it doesn't :-( 00:44 < daja77> rxr: if you add \usepackage{hyperref} to that document, you'll get the navigation bar on the left in acrobat 00:45 < tsa> hm...scsi cables are way too expensive. 00:45 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:45 < tsa> ho jsaw 00:46 < tsa> s/ho/hi/ 00:46 < daja77> hiho ;-) 00:46 < tsa> hehe 00:46 < jsaw> me re, hi all 00:47 < daja77> huhu jsaw 00:47 < jsaw> *wave* 00:48 * daja77 was forced to watch 8 mile yesterday *yaaawn* 00:48 < jsaw> I can tell u, the new option in evo-1.4 to filter mails thru an external command (eg. spamassassin) is great! 00:48 < daja77> what a progress *lol* 00:49 < rxr> daja77: btw do you know how I can define contitions in LaTeX to use one code in one output and another in another output? 00:49 < rxr> I would like to use nice symbols liek \Checkmark and so on in tables 00:49 < daja77> guess someone got a reminder what unix philosophy is all about 00:49 < tsa> hm.. 00:49 < rxr> but they are missing in the html output 00:49 < tsa> if ( $SIZE < 26144 ) 00:49 < tsa> { 00:49 < tsa> xfilter "/usr/bin/spamc" 00:49 < tsa> } 00:49 < tsa> works for me ;) 00:49 < jsaw> tsa? 00:50 < daja77> rxr: sure just define another if like that one for pdftex check 00:50 < tsa> does evolution 1.4 create vaild message-id's? 00:50 < rxr> ah - ok I take a look in your document ... 00:51 < jsaw> tsa: All my mails are sent with evo. Just check them. 00:51 < tsa> Message-Id: <1059602941.28115.12.camel@volans> 00:52 < tsa> ok, it still doesn't. 00:52 < daja77> hehe 00:52 < jsaw> daja77: is there another *easy* possibility to filter mails on a IMAP server? 00:52 < jsaw> tsa: what's wrong with this? 00:53 < daja77> jsaw: dunno, I was talking about sth else ... 00:53 < tsa> jsaw: message-id's have to be globally unique, it is therefore recommended to have the fqdn on the righthand side of the @ sign 00:53 < esden> hi jsaw 00:53 < jsaw> hi esden 00:54 < daja77> gn8 you all 00:54 < jsaw> tsa: even if the domain is not valid? 00:54 < jsaw> gn8 daja77, cu. 00:54 < jsaw> tsa: forget last comment. 00:55 < tsa> jsaw: of course not - in RFC terms, it "must" be globally unique and using the fqdn is "recommended" 00:55 < tsa> hehe 00:55 < jsaw> tsa: messages from volans are sent with evo-1.2 00:55 < tsa> yes, 1.2.4 00:56 < jsaw> tsa: Message-Id: <1059510152.15331.16.camel@voyager.earth.ufp> with evo-1.4 00:56 < tsa> jsaw: ah...that one looks better 00:56 < tsa> early evolution versions just did a gethostname() to determine what to put there.. 01:04 < rxr> daja77: the mail has not yet arrived 01:05 < jsaw> rxr: why does [xgk]dm need to be started with inittab? 01:05 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CAF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:06 < rxr> ah ok - now it is here 01:06 < rxr> jsaw: see mail 01:07 < jsaw> rxr: you're mail just states it, but doesn't explain. What am I missing here? 01:08 < jsaw> rxr: with "[...] focus. All [...]", you mean, "[...] focus, therefore all [...]"? 01:10 < rxr> the X server is lunch asynchronously at some point during the startup 01:10 < rxr> and the normal init progresses further 01:11 < rxr> after some msec or sec the XServer initilizes it's new virtual-console 01:11 < rxr> but sometime this happens _before_ the vc2 - vc6 are created 01:12 < rxr> so if this creation happens after X initilized it's console X looses it's keyboard focus and all the keypresses go to an normal vc2-vc6 01:12 < rxr> (everytime when I saw this it was vcs ....) 01:12 < jsaw> I still do not understand then, why using an init script is not the way to go? 01:12 < rxr> daja77: damn that latex is so ugly when it comes to multiple outputs and pictures 01:12 < jsaw> rxr: why not use different main files? 01:13 < rxr> because it alway is asynchron to the the virtual terminal initialization - if it is last in the inittab it really is last 01:13 < rxr> what "main" files? 01:13 < rxr> (btw: Other dists also do it via inittab ... - and kdm get's more reboot shutdown features - although I do not know exactly why) 01:13 < jsaw> e.g. html.tex: \def\htmlcode\n\input report 01:15 < rxr> well that might be easier than this conditionals ... 01:15 < tsa> we have several RH9 systems at work which also start gdm through inittab 01:15 < tsa> (and it sucks) 01:16 < rxr> tsa: why ? 01:17 < tsa> rxr: gdm has a nice "shutdown" button. you hit on shutdown, it forks off "shutdown" into the background and exits. 01:17 < tsa> then gdm respawns.. 01:17 < tsa> after that, Rh complains that the X server might have crashed. 01:17 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 01:18 < tsa> in other words: when i leave work, i feel happy about jounaling filesystems and hit the damn power-off button. 01:18 < rxr> tsa: hm - never saw this on my ROCK systems with ?dm via intitab 01:18 < tsa> ;) 01:19 < rxr> when kdm is started via inittab the user is even able to shutdown or reboot from the "K" menu's or pannel's logout button ... 01:19 < rxr> although I do not know if this is only possible when kdm is started via inittab 01:19 < tsa> rxr: i can't judge about that...my last rock install was quite a while ago.. 01:19 < rxr> tsa: it was a modified ROCK - we still have no initab start yet 01:20 < rxr> tsa: but this keyboard focus problem was reported by several persons - individually. And also I saw this on two boxes 01:20 < tsa> (but i have a reinstall on my schedule....when i will finally get this damn scsi cable..) 01:20 < rxr> inittab useage was a 100% reliable way to fix it 01:20 < tsa> SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot 01:20 < tsa> ;-) 01:21 -!- dennis_ is now known as dennis 01:21 < rxr> what is svscanboot = 01:21 < tsa> daemontools. 01:22 < tsa> most of my daemons are run by daemonstools... 01:23 < jsaw> BTW, anybody should add an init script for xfs 01:23 < jsaw> eh, s/anybody/somebody/ 01:27 < tsa> s/somebody/the maintainer/ 01:27 < tsa> ;-) 01:28 < jsaw> hmm, that is, guess... 01:28 < jsaw> tatatataaaaaaa: rxr 01:28 < jsaw> hehe 01:28 < tsa> hm.. 01:28 < jsaw> (xfree86) 01:28 < tsa> hehe 01:30 < rxr> xfs ? 01:30 < jsaw> X Font Server 01:30 < jsaw> It is much better than including all font path in XF86Config!!!!!!! 01:34 < jsaw> That's btw, what the line >FontPath "unix/:7100"< is for. 01:35 < rxr> Yes - I now 01:35 < rxr> feel free to write an init file ... 01:37 < jsaw> wanna buy me a time machine...? ;) 01:40 < jsaw> add it to the TODO, let's see, if I find some time... 01:41 < rxr> jsaw: or s.o. else ... 01:41 < rxr> but well - adding it to TODO takes as much time as an init script ... 01:41 < rxr> damn 01:41 < jsaw> okay, I'll keep it in mind. If it's not done before rc2, I'll complain or simply do it... ;) 01:43 < rxr> 0.26 SVN online 01:43 < rxr> jsaw: nope I'll do it now ... 01:43 < jsaw> alreay compiling... 01:43 < jsaw> rxr: thank you! 01:43 < rxr> the https:// transport will normally just work ... 01:43 < rxr> jsaw: if you could post your normal startup parameters for the daemon 01:44 < rxr> btw: I'll update the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mirror always later - so it can also be used as a converter for old svn:// clients ... 01:45 < jsaw> rxr: ? 01:46 < jsaw> rxr: Currently I start with runlevel 3 (network but no X). Then, if I need X, I run xfs by hand, then do "init 5"... 01:47 < jsaw> rxr: (which happens once or twice a week when the X Server hangs and thus have to reboot...) 01:48 < rxr> I meant s.th. other then -daemon ... 01:48 < rxr> in the init script 01:49 < jsaw> I don't get it. What parameters for what init script? 01:50 < jsaw> eeek: svn --version: 0.23.0, /opt/apache/bin/svn --version: 0.26.0 01:51 < rxr> the parameters / arguemtns you fire xfs in it's live 01:51 < rxr> *sigh* 01:52 < jsaw> sorry, xfs -daemon, nothing else. Though, one might want to add a -user for xfs. 01:52 < SMP> the fscking 'svn switch' doesnn't work 01:53 < SMP> because it needs access to the old repo 01:53 < jsaw> s/for xfs/for security reasons/ 01:54 < jsaw> SMP: becaus the trunk is still rock-trunk... 01:54 < rxr> SMP: really - sigh ... 01:55 < jsaw> rxr: you still have to rename rock-trunk.... 01:55 < rxr> but in the repo it will work - just as a switch from rock-trunk to rock-tags/2.0.0-beta7 works 01:55 < rxr> jsaw: yes I know 01:55 < SMP> oh, d'oh 01:55 < rxr> I wanted to wait a bit ... - since you commented I should 01:55 < rxr> SMP: ? 01:55 < jsaw> you mean from rock-trunk to tags/..., or? 01:56 < SMP> already too late again, I'm off 01:56 < jsaw> rxr: yep. I just wanted to give SMP a hint. 01:56 < rxr> jsaw: I meant to switch to a tag - not to move rock-trunk to tags ... 01:57 < jsaw> I should stop now, the length of my nerves are getting longer and longer - or maybe somebody is standing on them... 01:57 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BF84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:58 * jsaw is getting himself a coffeine infusion, brb 01:59 < rxr> jsaw: committed ... 01:59 < rxr> I RENAMED: 01:59 < rxr> Committed revision 941. 02:00 < rxr> rock-trunk -> trunk now 02:03 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:03 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 02:05 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9EB773F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:06 < tsa> i'll check what happens. 02:06 < tsa> # svn up 02:06 < tsa> svn: RA layer request failed 02:06 < tsa> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk' 02:06 < tsa> svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': 404 Not Found (https://schillernet.dyndns.org) 02:06 < tsa> ;) 02:07 < tsa> has the "svn switch" problem been solved so far? 02:07 < rxr> tsa: what kind of problem ? 02:07 < rxr> worked well here for me - either using https:// or svn:// 02:09 < tsa> # svn switch https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/trunk 02:09 < tsa> svn: RA layer request failed 02:09 < tsa> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk' 02:09 < tsa> svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': 404 Not Found (https://schillernet.dyndns.org) 02:09 < tsa> this problem. 02:10 < rxr> hm - I do not get this 02:10 < rxr> which svn version ? 02:10 < tsa> svn, version 0.22.0 (r5842) 02:11 < jsaw> svn switch successful here (0.26). 02:11 < tsa> ok, i'll update, then 02:12 < rxr> nope 02:12 < rxr> not yet 02:12 < rxr> it worked with an older svn on the RS/6000 02:12 < tsa> hm.. 02:12 < rxr> and I now try on my U5 - stay tuned 02:15 < esden> ok ... finished packing stuff 02:15 < esden> *sigh* 02:16 < tsa> ? 02:17 < esden> I was packing my home ... because I have to move >_< 02:17 < esden> that really sux 02:17 < tsa> full ack. 02:18 < tsa> <- moved into a flat about 3 weeks ago 02:18 < rolla> re 02:18 < rolla> rxr do you have a working rock iso for U10? 02:18 < rxr> esden: why do you have to pack 02:19 < rxr> rolla: no - no iso yet :-(# 02:19 * jsaw doesn't want to think about moving 02:19 < esden> rxr: because I have to move ;) 02:19 < rolla> let me know when you do I have a U10 and a U60 to test them on 02:19 < esden> rxr: I get other flat in the studentcity 02:20 < rxr> rolla: you can not accedently send one over ? 02:20 < tsa> why u10 and u60? because they're ide and scsi? 02:21 < rxr> tsa: I test with 0.23 on the U5 after a scripts/Cleanup finished ... 02:21 < esden> I have to give the key away at 10:00 till then the flat has to be empty .. >_< 02:21 < rolla> rxr if I could I would but mike1 has first dibs on the U10 02:21 < rolla> esden: why do you have to move? 02:21 < tsa> esden: have fun. moving just sucks. 02:21 < tsa> rolla: "dibs"? 02:22 < rolla> ah hmm how do I say 02:22 < rolla> has first chance at getting it 02:22 < esden> and I get the keys to the new flat on friday >_< 02:22 < tsa> ah, isee. 02:22 < rolla> yeah sorry about the americanism 02:23 < tsa> well...u5 and u10 are the same systems, just a different case. 02:23 < rolla> sort of 02:23 < tsa> not only "sort of" 02:23 < rolla> U5 has differant stuff less Mhz 02:23 < esden> rolla: because I get a new flat ... that is mine .. the current one is not really mine 02:23 < rolla> ach so well that is cool I guess 02:24 < tsa> rolla: both use usparcIIi, up to 440mhz, max 1gb ram. 02:24 < rolla> hmm 02:24 < rolla> oh I am thinking of blade 1000 and blade 100 02:25 < tsa> rolla: the oly difference: you won't be able to put a full-size UPA card into the u5.. 02:25 < rolla> :) 02:25 < rolla> I have never had to use U5 only U10's 02:26 < tsa> ah, ok. 02:26 < tsa> the best thing to do is to throw away the damn ide stuff and use scsi instead. 02:27 < esden> mike1 is changing email address? 02:27 < esden> why? 02:27 < tsa> don't know. 02:27 < rolla> he changed jobs 02:27 < rolla> tsa: ide in U10 is not bad it is cheaper than scsi 02:28 < rolla> I just replaced today a 9G with a 20G in the U10 02:28 < tsa> rolla: putting a scsi drive into my u10 gave it a pretty decent speedup.. 02:28 < rolla> you put a scsi card in the machine? 02:29 < tsa> yes. 02:29 < rolla> cool 02:29 < rxr> tsa: I also have a Adaptec card in my U5 ... 02:29 < rolla> the U60 is the true horsepower of the bunch 02:29 < tsa> symbios 53c875 chip, everything except tekram 02:29 < rxr> and a IBM 10k RPM SCSI disk ... 02:29 < rolla> very nice 02:30 < rolla> wow this laptop is slow 02:30 * rolla wonders if it is cause he is compiling kde and gnome at same time %) 02:30 < tsa> (sun uses exactly the same chipset for their scsi controllers, so all the cheap lsi logic controllers you can get at ebay work without any problems, because they're natively supported by sun's "glm" driver..) 02:32 < tsa> ..at least my u60 doesn't have this "ide problem" ;-) 02:35 < esden> ok ... I now take a 3 hour nap before I empty my flat 02:35 < tsa> cu esden.. 02:35 < esden> I will be back online on friday or so 02:35 < esden> cu guys 02:35 < rxr> cu esden 02:35 < esden> rxr: await some patches on friday ;) 02:36 < rxr> damn for some strange reason I do not find the sunhme module for the kernel I run on teh U5 02:36 < rxr> #!#!#!#!#!#1 02:36 < rxr> damn - I think it is the time to start a rock-included SUN kernel stuff (read cross-compile chain for it) 02:36 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 02:36 < rxr> to get a new kernel with network support 02:36 * rxr really wonders when this .o file got lost ... 02:37 < tsa> hm.. /kernel/drv/hme 02:37 < tsa> ..on solaris ;) 02:39 < tsa> rxr: btw...i can "co" the new tree with svn 0.22 without any problems, seems like just "switch" doesn't work.. 02:39 < tsa> ...and it's definitely time to reinstall the u60 .. *sigh* 02:41 < rxr> is rock or slowlaris running on it ? 02:41 < tsa> only solaris. 02:41 < tsa> i might do some rock-related testing on it, but basically, it'll be running solaris. 02:42 < rxr> hm - with 0.23 it worked fine here ... 02:42 < tsa> linux doesn't really like to run on sparc64 systems with more than one cpu... 02:42 < rxr> anyway I'm off to bed - and might start sparc64 cross chain in-rock work tomorrow (I need a new kernel on the box ...) 02:42 < rxr> cu 02:42 < tsa> cu rxr 02:44 < rolla> nacht all 02:45 < jsaw> cu rxr, rolla. 02:45 < tsa> i'm going to get some sleep, too. 02:45 < tsa> cu. 02:45 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082DE68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 03:00 < gomer> re 03:05 < jsaw> rxr: still awake???? 03:07 < jsaw> =[0]=> Aborted building package linux24-header. i2c patch fails... 03:34 < jsaw> hi gomer, and cu l8r 03:35 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M278P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 03:35 < gomer> i have an bad error, booting rocklinux after the power went down for several seconds 03:35 < gomer> "VFS: unable to open root device "discs/disc0/part3" or 00:00" 03:36 < gomer> i have no clue, what the problem is 03:36 < gomer> before everything works just fine 03:37 < mnemoc> squirrelmail or courier? 03:37 < mnemoc> OT question ;) 03:39 < mnemoc> jsaw: a new i2c patch is on svn, try it 03:40 < mnemoc> or... that patch fails? 04:07 < rolla> yawn 04:11 < mnemoc> hi rolla 04:11 < mnemoc> what imap/webmail do u recomend for MailDirs? 04:14 < rolla> hmm 04:14 < rolla> not sure the one I use I want to get rid of 04:14 < rolla> I use coueier and postfix but I am switching back to sendmail and something else for webmail 04:14 < mnemoc> :| 04:14 < mnemoc> o_O 04:15 < mnemoc> what about squirrel? 04:15 < rolla> never heard of it 04:15 < rolla> what mailserver do you use? 04:17 < mnemoc> qmail 04:17 < rolla> ugh 04:17 < rolla> I used that before I was not a big fan of it 04:17 * rolla is loving his wifi :) 04:22 * mnemoc has a monolitic tower with lot of cables :| 04:24 < rolla> yeah I have many machines including on slow laptop so that is what the wifi is for :) 04:26 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M278P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:44 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M262P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:47 < gomer> n8 04:47 < rolla> nacht 04:48 < n00kie_> night gomer 04:49 < n00kie_> Hey rolla :) 04:49 < n00kie_> You learned German? 04:49 < n00kie_> :) 04:49 < rolla> a little 04:49 < rolla> :) 04:49 < rolla> I have my learn to speak german cd 04:49 < n00kie_> hehe 04:50 < n00kie_> But use "Gute Nacht" :) 04:50 < n00kie_> That means "Good Night" :) 04:50 < rolla> I know what the means 04:50 < rolla> :P 04:50 < rolla> I took 2 years of german in high school 04:50 < rolla> I know the basics 04:50 < n00kie_> Ah 04:50 < n00kie_> Hehe 04:50 < rolla> ja 04:51 < rolla> it is the grammer that gets me 04:51 < gomer> can you speak pfälzisch? ;) 04:51 < n00kie_> lol 04:51 < rolla> ? 04:51 < n00kie_> it's an "akzent" 04:51 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:51 < rolla> hmm 04:52 < rolla> okay 04:52 < gomer> ai mia in de balz babble all su en komische agzend - des verschdeht keh sau 04:52 < rolla> I don't understand a word of it. 04:52 < gomer> as i said :) 04:53 < n00kie_> lol 04:53 < n00kie_> I didn't understand it either 04:53 < n00kie_> Well, but I think, you understand "tirolerisch" :) 04:53 < n00kie_> Mia in tirol ham eigentlich nit so an orgen akzent wie die in Pfalzreich 04:54 < gomer> meaning: "we in palatina speak such a weird slang that nobody understands" 04:54 < rolla> ach so. 04:54 < rolla> yeah I used american slang here and noone understands me either 04:54 < gomer> nookie: do hob i verstand 04:55 < gomer> falls das richtig iss... 04:55 < gomer> naja - das war jetzt eben eher bayrisch 04:55 < n00kie_> rolla: Tell us something in your slang 04:55 < n00kie_> Naja 04:55 < n00kie_> Tirol == Bayern 04:55 < n00kie_> :) 04:55 < gomer> hmm - ehrlich? ;) 04:55 < rolla> hmm 04:55 < n00kie_> Yeah 04:55 < gomer> krass 04:55 < n00kie_> Since I told it to you :P 04:55 < rolla> dibs 04:56 < gomer> dibs? 04:56 < gomer> uhm - i was about to go to bed 04:56 < rolla> as in "I have dibs on that computer" 04:56 < gomer> so then - cya guys 04:57 < n00kie_> sleep well, little gomer 04:57 < rolla> nacht 04:57 < n00kie_> ;-) 04:57 < gomer> gud nochd - schloofd schäää 04:59 < rolla> n00kie_: wie spaet ist es? 04:59 < n00kie_> Es ist 04:59 in Zentral Europa. 04:59 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M278P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:00 < n00kie_> If you understood that 05:01 < rolla> ja 05:01 < rolla> Es ist 21:56 GMT -6 05:03 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 05:05 < rolla> night all 05:06 < n00kie_> sleep well 05:06 < rolla> thanks 05:06 < n00kie_> wb mnemoc 05:07 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:27 < n00kie_> Good night 05:48 < mnemoc> good night too 06:20 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.254.39.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:40 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.226.150.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:27 < netrunner> moin ... and away for work :) 07:28 < blindcoder> moin 07:29 < blindcoder> WEEE, bug in gcc parser 07:36 < blindcoder> nice, desktop build just building its last package 07:53 < starlord> hmm,everyone at sleep? 07:58 < blindcoder> sure 08:00 < blindcoder> okay, now going on to fixing problems caused by cluster-build 08:01 -!- JTBurn [xXx@pD9E7D67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:10 < starlord> if i install from iso install sets can i rebuild later packages i need to my own cpu settings, isos are compiled for i386? 08:18 -!- charan [~sunil@202.88.238.133] has joined #rocklinux 08:22 -!- JTBurn [xXx@pD9E7D67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 08:23 -!- JTBurn [xXx@pD9E7D67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:36 < blindcoder> starlord: isos are usually compiled for i686 (pentium-mmx) 08:36 < blindcoder> starlord: but yes, you can rebuild them 08:42 -!- JTBurn [xXx@pD9E7D67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Reboot...") 08:43 < starlord> hmm,so when i install gcc is compiled for i686 so i should rebuild it to p4 before anything else is rebuilded? 08:46 < starlord> or does it have any impact on those? 08:51 -!- JTBurn [xXx@pD9E7D67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:58 < blindcoder> do _NOT_ optimize for p4! 08:58 < blindcoder> gcc has an optimization bug when optimizing for Pentium 4 which will cause Floating Point Operations to fail! 08:59 < starlord> eep,so i should use i686 until its fixed? 09:00 < blindcoder> yes 09:02 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-11-149.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:03 < DeElsasser> moin 09:09 < blindcoder> moin moin 09:11 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 09:15 < JTBurn> hi 09:16 < JTBurn> can anyone help to creat my own menu architecture and layout(eg a circle or an appel or a smili) under icewm? 09:16 < blindcoder> JTBurn: that's not difficult 09:17 < blindcoder> cd ~/.icewm/icons 09:17 < JTBurn> really ? with own layout, i mean like any pic 09:17 < JTBurn> no I mean the follow: 09:17 < blindcoder> and then create the app_16x16.xpm and app_32x32.xpm 09:18 < blindcoder> hm? 09:18 < JTBurn> I want to create a menu (like you can make with a html page and javascript for an active desktop) which is nothing like the normal taskbar or so 09:19 < blindcoder> erm... no. 09:19 < blindcoder> I don't think icewm has any such functinality 09:20 < A-Tui> hi 09:21 < JTBurn> what did you me explain ? with the icons. have you any screenshot whats the result of this ? 09:23 < blindcoder> A-Tui: hi 09:23 < blindcoder> JTBurn: you can create icons and use them in your own menu/taskbar 09:24 < JTBurn> ok, I though other things :) 09:24 < JTBurn> mh how can I realize that what I want ? 09:25 < A-Tui> hola blindcoder 09:25 < blindcoder> JTBurn: code it into iceWM 09:25 < blindcoder> icewm doesn't have such functionality AFAIK 09:25 < blindcoder> besides, what do yu want javascript and htmml in the start menu for? 09:26 < JTBurn> ähm that was an example who you can do it with the Active Desktop... 09:27 < blindcoder> so you simply want to change your icewm startmenu? 09:27 < JTBurn> yes the style and form 09:28 < JTBurn> I know such programms like iceme or so, but there i do nothing found 09:28 < blindcoder> hmm.... I think that would alse lead to some C-Programming... you can change the entries in it, but that's it. 09:30 < blindcoder> icewm isn't designed for this kind of things 09:30 < JTBurn> mh and did u know any other window manager who can do such stuff 09:30 < blindcoder> KDE, maybe... 09:31 < blindcoder> I don't know, I never felt the urge to change something as unimportant as a start menu 09:39 < starlord> blindcoder:do you know that pentium4 optimization bug entry code in bugzilla so i can track it down,so i know when its safe to use march=pentium4 09:43 -!- blindy [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:47 < DeElsasser> hi starlord: same problem with mozilla :-( 09:48 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FFA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:48 -!- blindy [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 09:49 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F620.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958FFA0.dip.t-dialin.net))) 09:49 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 09:49 < DeElsasser> starlord: in fact it's a gcc problem... 09:50 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: gcc on P4? 09:52 < starlord> yes i mean gcc's bugzilla code 09:57 < DeElsasser> blindcoder: I read about a patch (gnu mailinglist), I send a mail to them but never receive a response.... 09:59 -!- charan [~sunil@202.88.238.133] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:59 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: those people take their time for responses 09:59 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: I sent a feature-patch to coreutils, took them over a week to reply 09:59 < DeElsasser> it seams it's a patch for gcc > 3.2.3 10:01 < DeElsasser> what's about gcc 3.3 in rock? 10:02 < DeElsasser> some use it? 10:02 < blindcoder> I haven't yet.. 10:03 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 10:03 < DeElsasser> a propos upgrade, just for say somethink, kde 3.1.3 is out... 10:04 < blindcoder> yes it is, but I doubt rene will be happy about that :-) 10:04 < DeElsasser> why? 10:05 < DeElsasser> just replace 2 by 3 10:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 10:05 < blindcoder> kde is quite a big package, and it might break other things. 10:05 < starlord> hmm, so the p4 bug is only in gcc 3.3 10:05 < starlord> ? 10:05 < blindcoder> starlord: 3.2.3 at least 10:06 * starlord is taking lunch break 10:06 < blindcoder> lunch... still one hour to go until then... 10:06 < DeElsasser> starlord: what time is it? 10:07 < DeElsasser> blindcoder: 2 hours... 10:07 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: I have lunch at 11 ^^ 10:07 < DeElsasser> gnargl 10:08 < blindcoder> harrharr 10:08 < blindcoder> btw... 10:08 < blindcoder> I need to call someone... 10:11 < DeElsasser> is someone know why sysvinit still on version 2.84 is? 10:13 < starlord> its 11:10 in here 10:13 < starlord> wow,5min lunch break,its my new record :) 10:14 < DeElsasser> and where is here? 10:14 < starlord> Finland :) 10:14 < DeElsasser> fastest or longest record? 10:14 -!- JTBurn [xXx@pD9E7D67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Reboot...") 10:15 < starlord> longest,i usually just take a smoke at lunch break,but now i smoked and eated :) 10:15 < DeElsasser> lol 10:15 < starlord> https://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/32068.html 10:15 < starlord> very cool handheld 10:18 < DeElsasser> starlord: have you one for me to test, please? 10:19 < starlord> no,dont have one 10:20 < DeElsasser> :-( 10:20 < starlord> but cool features dont you think? 10:22 < blindcoder> WE! My GPS Receiver should be here monday in a week :-) 10:23 < DeElsasser> blindcoder: if the transport service find your house ;-) (have they a GPS?...) 10:24 < blindcoder> DeElsasser: well, my house is easy to find, but I don't think they have a GPS... 10:32 < blindcoder> it's fascinating how many more packages build as soon as you turn off Cluster Build.. 10:33 * DeElsasser is hungry, he had no breakfast... 10:33 * blindcoder hands DeElsasser some pretzels 10:33 < DeElsasser> hm, miam miam, thx 10:34 * blindcoder turns into Ryo-Ohki and eat some carrots 10:34 < DeElsasser> pretzels or bretzels? 10:34 < DeElsasser> bretzels are better, I think 10:35 < blindcoder> pretzels, german "Brezen" 10:35 < blindcoder> erm 10:35 < blindcoder> yes 10:35 < owl> moin 10:35 < blindcoder> moin owly 10:35 < owl> hi blindy 10:35 < DeElsasser> moin, the killer owl 10:36 < blindcoder> owl: how's death? 10:36 * DeElsasser is not eating sausages today, but bretzels 10:37 < owl> blindcoder: hm. i'm afraid, i cannot tell ya some details about it... 10:37 < owl> DeElsasser: *kick* 10:37 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 10:37 < DeElsasser> aïe 10:38 < owl> aie? 10:38 < DeElsasser> ouïlle 10:38 < owl> ??? 10:39 < DeElsasser> autch? 10:39 < owl> ah. k. ;) 10:39 < blindcoder> owl: okay, then how's life? 10:40 < owl> blindcoder: hm. like every day, since birth. boring, empty, awful... yours? 10:42 < blindcoder> owl: Well, I feel like everytime I open my heart a bit someone stands ready to thrust a dagger at it. 10:46 < owl> hrm. don't open your heart then 10:47 < owl> btw, someone here from the IN-people know the URL of the "medipark" near westpark...? or better: the phone number of the apotheke in the medipark? 10:48 < blindcoder> well, that's something I can't do. 10:48 < owl> hrm. why not? 10:48 < blindcoder> Because I don't like sitting alone at home all day long. 10:48 < owl> hmmm. depends on the point of view... 10:49 < fake> morning 10:49 < blindcoder> moin fake 10:49 < owl> .oO(you can be alone, also, if you have "someone". imho. ) 10:49 < owl> hi fake 10:49 < blindcoder> owl: 'can' and 'wanting to' are two things. 10:49 < owl> hrm. 10:50 < DeElsasser> bon appetit a tous ;-) 10:50 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-11-149.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting") 10:54 < owl> hrm. i'm not liking if my drugs are not sent to me *argh* 10:56 < blindcoder> drugs? 10:58 < owl> blindcoder: cipramil... the apotheke said, it was delievered on tuesday... but it doesn't arrive here... migth the "postbeamten" have caught the pills and are dealing with them or so... *headshake* 10:59 < blindcoder> ic 11:01 * blindcoder --> lunch 11:02 < owl> guten hunger 11:10 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030331]") 11:12 < owl> <-- off (breakfast/lunch/whatever) 11:13 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M262P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 11:17 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:28 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 11:30 * blindcoder back 11:31 < daja77> moin 11:31 < blindcoder> moin moin daja77 11:31 < blindcoder> daja77: for koules, see mailing-list 11:32 < daja77> hi blindy :) 11:32 < daja77> more than 140 mails will dig through them later 11:34 < n00kie> wb blindcoder 11:35 < daja77> hmm I guessed that I'll shock rxr with that document 11:35 < blindcoder> daja77: okay, just so much: it looks like a bug in gcc's parser because the error is in a comment! 11:35 < blindcoder> n00kie: thx 11:36 < daja77> lol 11:36 < blindcoder> daja77: which? 11:36 < daja77> I've sended him a script from "Theoretische Informatik III" which I wrote a year ago 11:36 < daja77> just to see the code 11:37 < daja77> < rxr> daja77: damn that latex is so ugly when it comes to multiple outputs and pictures 11:37 < daja77> :) 11:38 < blindcoder> oh... 11:38 < blindcoder> well, I never really used LaTeX 11:38 * daja77 using it for presentation foils and almost every other document type he has to produce 11:41 < blindcoder> well, since most of this company is windows based I usually create it on StarOffice, export it to .ppt, clean it up, put it on my wrist-watch and go to the presentation to shock everyone :D 11:41 < daja77> hehe 11:42 < daja77> well in some of my presentation I needed math formulas and code snippets, this is done well by latex 11:44 < rxr> daja77: why do you think you shocked me? 11:44 < daja77> sounded like it 11:45 < daja77> hi rxr :)) 11:46 < rxr> hi all 11:46 < blindcoder> hi rxr 11:49 < daja77> rxr: so you liked it *vbeg* 11:49 < rxr> no - I do not like the choas of LaTeX ... 11:49 < daja77> ic 11:50 < daja77> well that's why I normally only produce documents with pdf output 11:50 < daja77> this one is the only one where i did both iirc 11:51 < rxr> so a Build-Pkg modification for dependency add and del by [E] tag in .desc files committed .... 11:52 * daja77 off for breakfast and work 11:52 < daja77> rtai merge in the afternoon? 11:52 < starlord> daja77 where do you live? breakfast? 11:52 < daja77> I slept long 11:52 < starlord> :) 11:53 < blindcoder> hehe 11:54 < blindcoder> >80 broken builds in Cluster. <30 after restarting in single-machine :D 12:00 < fake> jana:/rock# svn switch https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux rock-trunk/ 12:00 < fake> svn: Filesystem has no item 12:00 < fake> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/rock-linux/!svn/vcc/default' 12:00 < fake> svn: 12:00 < fake> file not found: transaction `2m4', path `/rock-trunk' 12:00 < fake> damn 12:00 < blindcoder> hmm... it worked fine here 12:00 < fake> rxr: that's weird 12:01 < blindcoder> if you don't count the fact that it also did a svn up at the same tie, which I wasn't so happy with 12:17 * fake manually diffing against new co... 12:28 < blindcoder> heh, I've stopped doing that. 12:28 < blindcoder> too big diffs 12:48 -!- esden_ [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:48 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 12:48 -!- Topic set by esden [Fri Jul 25 02:22:09 2003] 12:48 (Users #rocklinux) 12:48 [ _snyke ] [ christ|an] [ fake ] [ mnemoc ] [ praenti ] [ snyke ] 12:48 [ A-Tui ] [ cytrinox_] [ Freak ] [ n00kie ] [ praenti_] [ starlord] 12:48 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ gomer ] [ n00kie_ ] [ rolla ] 12:48 [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] 12:48 [ blindcoder] [ esden_ ] [ mistik1] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 12:48 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 27 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 12:48 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002 12:49 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 31 secs 12:50 < owl> rehi 12:50 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("Serverwechsel") 12:51 -!- praenti [mo1032@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 12:52 -!- esden [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 12:56 -!- shawn_ [~shawn@adsl-63-196-0-109.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 * A-Tui is away: /away 12:59 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:01 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.254.39.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 13:02 < gomer> re 13:03 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:04 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:05 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.251.178.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:13 -!- shawn_ [~shawn@adsl-63-196-0-109.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has left #rocklinux () 13:45 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 13:49 < gomer> kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe/ -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno=2 13:49 < gomer> what could it be? 13:50 < gomer> it ran pretty good before 13:50 < blindcoder> errno 2: File not found IIRC 13:51 < gomer> before the power-cut it ran pretty good 13:58 < blindcoder> well, sudden power-losses are known to lead to data-loss... 14:00 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.230.106.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 < blindcoder> urgs... some people would kill me for creating such code >_< 14:13 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.251.178.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:15 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 14:16 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E28E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:16 < jsaw> re 14:20 < jsaw> rxr: what's going on here (svn)? 14:21 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:22 < rxr> sorry I messed arround 14:22 < rxr> ... 14:23 < rxr> have you read the mails? or experienced problems ? 14:24 -!- jvc [~jvc@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:26 < jsaw> rxr: 1. which mail? I had absolutely no problem with switching svn repo! 14:26 < jsaw> s/? I/? 2. I/ 14:27 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.185] has joined #rocklinux 14:27 < rammi> hihi 14:28 < daja77> hi rammi 14:28 < rxr> jsaw: commit mails I meant 14:28 < jsaw> rxr: yes 14:28 < rxr> jsaw: I still not got it - why do you ask? 14:29 < jsaw> rxr: ah, ok. why all this (rock-)trunk add/remove? 14:29 < jsaw> rxr: and you answered: 14:30 < jsaw> rxr: "I messed around". That was all I wanted to know. And to your question, if I have any probs with svn: no, I didn't. not a single one since days. 14:31 < rolla> re 14:31 < jsaw> hi all 14:31 < daja77> hello rolla 14:33 < jsaw> rxr: Did you have any chance to look into rockplug? (Sorry to bother you, but I'm at a point, where u really should have a look and either stop me from continueing in this direction or not) 14:35 -!- cytrinox__ [~cytrinox@p213.54.198.251.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < rxr> jsaw: no - I'm at work - and just do the basic fixing while waiting for M$VC to be responsible again ... 14:36 < rxr> I'll take a look soon, especially since I do want the rock-net stuff untils this weekened ... 14:37 < jsaw> 9~hhh777777ztvxcvf 14:37 < daja77> ack 14:37 < daja77> ;-) 14:37 < jsaw> (hello from daughter) 14:37 < daja77> greetings 14:37 -!- gren|work [~gren@dyn224.iacc-tm4.ndsu.NoDak.edu] has joined #rocklinux 14:38 < jsaw> I'll tell her 14:38 < daja77> yes and she is absolutely right 14:38 < jsaw> :) 14:39 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.230.106.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:39 -!- cytrinox__ is now known as cytrinox 14:41 < blindcoder> jsaw: good idea to bring her in contact with Linux :-) 14:41 < rxr> jsaw: greetings from here, too ;-) 14:42 < jsaw> blindcoder: Do you really think, the first time she saw a computer, she had seen Windoze? NO, NEVER. NOT TILL SHE WANTS TO PLAY DOOM! 14:42 < rxr> jsaw: for some strange reasons the svn switch did also not worked for me on some boxes - so I tried s.th. out ... 14:42 < jsaw> s/DOOM/Counter Strike/ 14:42 < rxr> it should be all normal again now ... 14:42 < rxr> cu later 14:42 < daja77> exactly doom runs under linux 14:42 < jsaw> s/Counter Strike/etc./ 14:43 < blindcoder> the very moment she'll mention Counter Strike I'd give her life-long computer-abstinence 14:43 < jsaw> (well CS also runs under Linux, but I had a few problems, so...) 14:43 * daja77 watched a little girl playing an ego shooter at clt4 14:43 < jsaw> blindcoder: why? 14:43 < blindcoder> jsaw: because IMO it sucks. 14:44 < rolla> blindcoder: it is still something to kill time with 14:44 < daja77> guess blindy would teach her nethack 14:44 < blindcoder> daja77: of course! 14:45 < blindcoder> or, if it _has_ to be 3D, bzflag 14:45 < daja77> rolla: not only time *ggg* 14:45 < rolla> very true 14:46 < rolla> when I have time I play battlefield 1942 14:46 * daja77 playing freeciv from time to time against my sister 14:46 < jsaw> these days, you cannot keep children away from violence on TV etc., so you have to give em a strong phsyche. So, Paracelsus got it right, the amount makes the poison. True for sweets, computer games, TV, etc. 14:46 < owl> rehi 14:46 < jsaw> hi owl 14:47 < daja77> well violent games are fun 14:47 < daja77> sometimes 14:47 < jsaw> yep 14:47 < daja77> hi owl 14:47 < daja77> battle chess *ggg* 14:47 < jsaw> :-))))) 14:48 < blindcoder> hey, battle chess was cool 14:48 < daja77> yes it was 14:49 < jsaw> what's about cliff's favourite game... 14:49 < jsaw> (I forgot the name) 14:49 < blindcoder> corewars? 14:49 < Nebukadneza> apropos clifford ... 14:49 < Nebukadneza> who is he all the time? 14:49 < jsaw> a, yes, corewars. 14:49 < daja77> frozen bubble? 14:49 < Nebukadneza> i met him @ linuxtag ... 14:49 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: usually he is just clifford 14:49 < Nebukadneza> hmm? 14:49 < jsaw> Nebukadneza: s/who/where/ 14:50 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: and on to _where_ he is... in Austria I believe. but rarely on IRC 14:50 < Nebukadneza> ohohoh 14:50 < Nebukadneza> sorrysorry 14:50 < Nebukadneza> srysrysry 14:50 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 14:50 < jsaw> he's earning money I guess (until ROCK 2.1 starts), hehe 14:50 < blindcoder> actually, the times I saw him on IRC I can count on one hand 14:50 < Nebukadneza> löl 14:50 < daja77> argh can you laugh in english 14:51 < Nebukadneza> loel 14:51 < jsaw> off 2 work, cu l8r 14:51 < daja77> :P 14:51 < blindcoder> laughing out extremely loud?? 14:51 < daja77> clifford is now workiing for linbit ... 14:53 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^ut2k3 14:54 -!- BadSTuff [~badstuff@badstuff.blazing.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:54 -!- BadSTuff [~badstuff@badstuff.blazing.de] has left #rocklinux () 14:55 < esden_> re hi all 14:55 -!- You're now known as esden 14:55 < blindcoder> hi esden 14:55 < daja77> hi esden 14:56 < esden> puhh .. finally in the new flat 14:56 < esden> that is beautyfull ... 14:56 < esden> but I still have to pack all the things out 14:56 * Nebu^ut2k3 thinks linux gaming ruleZ 14:56 < Nebu^ut2k3> :) 14:56 < daja77> oh shit splash is this weekend 14:56 < blindcoder> esden: the thing I want to talk to you about is a "Car Retrieval System". And now you may wonder what it is :D 14:56 < esden> blindcoder: yes I do ... 14:56 < esden> blindcoder: please explain 14:58 < daja77> blindcoder: you mean how the polish find all our cars 14:58 * daja77 runs away 14:58 < blindcoder> daja77: n, how _YOU_ find your car after esden stole it :D 14:58 < daja77> hehe 15:00 < daja77> hmm that silent esden scares me 15:00 < esden> blindcoder: :P 15:00 < owl> *rofl* 15:01 < Nebu^ut2k3> hi owl 15:01 < owl> hi Nebu^ut2k3 15:01 < Nebu^ut2k3> :) 15:02 < esden> daja77: I am hacking your car ... and that is why i lag a bit ;) 15:02 * blindcoder going home. *waves* 15:03 < daja77> bye blindcoder 15:03 < daja77> esden: ic ... 15:03 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.185] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:05 < daja77> wow https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/allgemeines/ 15:06 < rolla> blindcoder: do germans have trouble with poles stealing cars? 15:07 < daja77> yes we had/have 15:07 < rolla> damn 15:08 < daja77> as one as our entertainers put it: welcome to poland you car is already here ;-) 15:09 < rolla> ha ha 15:11 < daja77> guess the problem is not that big anymore 15:12 < daja77> big problem 15:12 < daja77> uh gaps while typing, not good 15:13 < esden> rolla: the problem was blowed up by media 15:14 < esden> as many things like that 15:15 < rolla> yes 15:15 < rolla> media is the bane of all 15:15 < rolla> here we have cnn 15:15 < rolla> ug 15:16 * -> esden lounching dict.leo.org 15:16 < daja77> hehe cnn yeah have it too via cable ;-) 15:16 < esden> ack 15:17 < daja77> esden: huh? 15:18 < rolla> daja77: is it not a waste 15:18 < jsaw> re 15:19 < daja77> rolla: well haven't said that 15:19 < rolla> you should 15:19 < daja77> why 15:19 < daja77> i mean it is crap sometimes, but it can be funny too 15:19 < rolla> cause they are more a gosip channel 15:20 < rolla> they report things before they find out if they are true 15:20 < rolla> they cause more problems than guns on the street 15:20 < daja77> they sometimes bring news in german ... 15:21 < fake> (after the german world takeover) 15:21 < fake> hi ;) 15:21 < daja77> hi fake 15:21 < rolla> re fake 15:21 < daja77> nope already happening 15:22 < daja77> rule one for german world take over: don't let the austrian guy manage it 15:22 < rolla> yes 15:22 < rolla> funny thing is most americans don't know he was austrian 15:22 < fake> we learn from our mistakes, muhaha. 15:22 < daja77> hehe 15:22 < rolla> dumbass 15:22 < fake> we are borg... resistance is futile... 15:22 < rolla> es 15:22 < rolla> ja das ist richtig 15:23 < fake> rolla: just kidding 15:23 < rolla> :) 15:23 < rolla> I was calling americans dumbasses :) 15:24 < esden> hi fake 15:24 < daja77> rolla: you are entitled to do that ;-) 15:25 -!- starlord [~starlord@arkanae.org] has quit ("leaving") 15:26 < owl> moin fake 15:26 < rolla> daja77: yes I am 15:26 < daja77> :) 15:26 < rolla> I feel that 99.9% of us are mouth breathing morons 15:26 < daja77> same here 15:27 * fake is on of the stupid people 15:27 < fake> one 15:27 < daja77> nah 15:27 < fake> but i belong to the worldwide fraction of really really stupid people, we are quite elite. 15:27 < esden> daja77: yes he is ... because he is telling everyone everywhere around all the time that he is stupid ;) 15:28 < fake> nationality doesn't matter here. 15:28 < fake> esden: i am proud of it! 15:28 < daja77> esden: so do I, they world shouldn't know about our intelligence 15:28 < rolla> fake: true that is what I like about it 15:28 < esden> *blink* *blink* *ratta* *ratta* *ratta* ... hmm you may be right 15:29 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 < daja77> hey A-Tui 15:31 < A-Tui> hola daja77 15:31 < owl> hi A-Tui 15:33 < daja77> brb getting sth to drink 15:37 -!- cytrionx_ [~cytrinox@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:38 -!- cytrionx_ [~cytrinox@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:40 -!- fake_ [~fake@pD950EEA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:45 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D364.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: fake_!~fake@pD950EEA4.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:45 -!- fake_ is now known as fake 15:45 < fake> re. 15:46 < daja77> yeah now i am alone at work 15:46 -!- Nebu^ut2k3 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:57 * daja77 cursing that asshole who made that apache config 15:58 < rolla> ? 15:59 < daja77> he splitted it up in tiny files, it is a mess 15:59 < daja77> + he forget to delete the sample files, which are there too but not used 16:01 -!- CyBuX [~nando@200.13.230.194] has joined #rocklinux 16:03 < daja77> O_o 16:03 < daja77> welcome CyBuX 16:05 < CyBuX> thanks daja77 :) 16:06 < rolla> daja77: spliting it up into logical files is okay 16:06 < daja77> it was not done logical 16:06 < rolla> not removing samples in sohopmorish 16:06 < rolla> s/in/is/ 16:07 * daja77 now building 2.0.47 from src on this machine 16:09 < rolla> :) 16:09 < rolla> good man 16:09 < daja77> :) 16:18 -!- CyBuX [~nando@200.13.230.194] has quit ("CyBuX has no reason") 16:24 < owl> <-- off. bbl 16:25 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 16:40 < mistik1> oh the memories 16:40 < mistik1> someone is rather nostalgic ;-) 16:41 < daja77> huh? 16:41 < mistik1> 2.0.47? 16:42 < daja77> apache 16:42 < mistik1> oh 16:42 < mistik1> ok, I misread then 16:42 < mistik1> in that case moin 16:42 < daja77> hehe 16:42 < daja77> moin mistik1 16:43 < mistik1> I do remember the 2.0.x series with fondness 16:43 < daja77> 2.2 was better 16:43 < mistik1> for features yes 16:43 < mistik1> 2.0 was a Tank though 16:43 < daja77> and 2.4 is a nightmare, still 16:44 < mistik1> hehe 16:45 < daja77> even if the pains that were caused by 2.4.0-2.4.16 are healed by time now ... 16:46 < mistik1> Oh god, dont remind me of that fiasco 16:46 * daja77 doin a full stop 16:47 < daja77> don't wanna remind anybody of this, sorry 16:47 < mistik1> ;) 16:48 < daja77> let's call it the dark period ... 16:48 < daja77> like the middle ages, nobody really know what happened then ;-) 16:49 < mistik1> or we could call it the POSIX civil war ;-) 16:50 < daja77> yes that would be more plausible in america 16:50 < daja77> we had too many civil and non civil wars ;-) 16:50 < mistik1> hehe 16:52 < mistik1> I had to give rock a break for a little while, we needed to get some things done in LTSP for LWCE 16:53 < daja77> hm? 16:53 < mistik1> trying to get CUPS into the workstation environment to replace the current lp_server JetDirect emulator 16:53 < mistik1> ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project 16:53 < mistik1> www.ltsp.org 16:54 < daja77> *argl* cups (causing pain as well) 16:54 < mistik1> its certainly beeb a pain in my arse 16:54 < mistik1> *been 16:55 < daja77> sounds familiar 16:56 < mistik1> you see for the upcomming version of LTSP Jim created a build environment similar to Rock actually 16:56 < daja77> cool 16:56 < mistik1> with this we no longer steal binaries and libs from a distro 16:56 < daja77> stealing, in the sense of sco *ggg* 16:57 < mistik1> we just add what we need to the LBE and create a package.def that tells how to handle the build 16:57 < mistik1> we were using the binaries from rhat7.0 16:58 < daja77> hmm ic 16:58 < daja77> rxr: PING 16:58 < mistik1> just a matter of creating a NFS rootfs 16:58 < mistik1> but now its all built from sources 16:58 < daja77> good 16:58 < mistik1> indeed 16:59 < mistik1> a few distros were interested in including ltsp but would not do so of course because we had no sources 16:59 < daja77> more than 10 spam messages today *gettingangry* 16:59 < mistik1> install a spam filter 16:59 < mistik1> Spamassassin works great 17:00 < daja77> there is already one running here at university 17:00 < mistik1> I use it at my SMTP 17:00 < mistik1> bah 17:00 < mistik1> how do they handle it, tag headers on or delete spam 17:00 < mistik1> ? 17:01 < daja77> guess they only tag it, maybe I just have to say delete it 17:01 < mistik1> If they tag it then just setup a filter in your client to move the mail with that tag to trash 17:02 < mistik1> prolly something like X-SPAM-STATUS: Yes 17:02 < mistik1> depends on the admin 17:02 < mistik1> just check your headers 17:03 < daja77> yeah don#t wanna bother with that crap today, but will do soon 17:05 < mistik1> dammit 17:05 < daja77> O_o 17:05 < mistik1> I'll have to write a 100 line package.def for this darn cups it looks like 17:06 < mistik1> thier Makefile and Makedefs just plain suck 17:06 < daja77> hey create a rock target and be happy 17:06 < daja77> s/thier/hey 17:06 < daja77> d'oh what crap i am writing today 17:06 < mistik1> heh 17:07 < daja77> oh forget it, thouht i wrote it, but it was you 17:07 < mistik1> they have a pletora of makefile Vars 17:07 < mistik1> even glibc was not this bad 17:07 < daja77> may the sun stop shining on this monitor 17:07 < mistik1> close the shade 17:08 < daja77> glibc not worse than something, strange 17:08 < daja77> is all closed 17:08 < esden> ahh very good ... my main box back online *happy* ;) 17:08 < esden> hi mistik1 17:08 < mistik1> hey esden 17:08 * -> esden was faster ;) 17:08 < mistik1> :) 17:08 < daja77> hey cool I should ask esden for a drink before he gets depressed again 17:08 < esden> daja77: o_O 17:09 * -> esden will not get depressed ... no chance ;) 17:09 < daja77> good then I can ask you for more drinks 17:09 < esden> hehe ;) ... when where? ... you are paying ;) 17:10 < daja77> august 14th-17th 17:10 < esden> daja77: ok no problem I am on it ;) 17:10 < daja77> and no i am not paying everything 17:11 < esden> daja77: not everything but you spend some rounds ;) 17:11 < daja77> hmm + a beer for blindy 17:12 < esden> hehe 17:12 * mistik1 dont drink so i'll come for the girls 17:13 < daja77> hey you already have that much 17:13 < mistik1> hehe 17:13 < esden> mistik1: give some of them away!!! 17:13 < mistik1> like I would have to 17:13 < daja77> .oO esden asking for mistik1's daughters ... 17:13 < mistik1> why does everyone want to take my girls away 17:13 < esden> hmm ... but when I think about it twice I can get them by myself ;) 17:14 < daja77> mistik1: send pics ;-) 17:14 < mistik1> haha 17:14 < esden> mistik1: because it is a rare thing in between of hackers 17:14 < esden> mistik1: are you on cccamp &/| dev-meeting ? 17:15 < mistik1> one of them has pics on her website but I donno the url 17:15 * daja77 still waiting for a mail from his girl ... 17:15 < esden> mistik1: so get the url! 17:15 < daja77> you don't know that, shame on you 17:15 < esden> mistik1: how are they? 17:15 < mistik1> I think i'm on the general list 17:15 < esden> mistik1: general list? 17:15 < mistik1> 24, 22, 20, 8 17:16 < esden> I take the 22 years old ;) 17:16 < esden> or the 20 ... 17:16 < mistik1> she's taken 17:16 < daja77> mistik1: are you older than rolla? *gg* 17:16 < mistik1> I donno 17:16 < esden> daja77: no he started early 17:16 < daja77> hehe 17:16 < esden> :-> 17:17 < mistik1> the first two are adopted 17:17 < esden> mistik1: ahh, k 17:17 < mistik1> but my wifes children none the less 17:18 < esden> ok .. so you maried a woman with two daughters 17:18 < mistik1> yes 17:18 < esden> now I understand ... or not? 17:18 < esden> ahh good 17:19 < daja77> esden: well don't be sorry, girls who are more than 1000km away, are somehow difficult ;-) 17:19 < mistik1> We have an old saying in Jamaica, You cannot love the cow and dont love the calf 17:19 < daja77> *gg* esden's latency 17:19 < daja77> hmm guess that's true 17:19 * -> esden hits daja77 with a baseball bat 17:20 < daja77> ouch /me hates to be hit slowly 17:20 < esden> mistik1: sounds trough ... but I have not experianced that yet ;) 17:20 < esden> s/trough/true/ 17:20 < esden> daja77: slowly but hard ;) 17:21 < daja77> hmm I could ask some old women with daughters if they wanna have esden 17:21 < esden> the bat I use is pretty heavy ... that is why it is moving so slowly 17:21 < esden> daja77: lol 17:22 < daja77> :) 17:23 * -> esden hungry ... >_< 17:23 < mistik1> ok, on to my war with CUPS 17:23 < esden> I hope I still get something to eat in Tribuehne 17:23 < daja77> you killed it? 17:24 < mistik1> I would very much like to kill the creater of the Makefiles 17:24 < esden> no not yet ... I were not yet hunting 17:24 < esden> argh 17:24 * -> esden should read propperly 17:24 < esden> *sigh* 17:25 < daja77> mistik1: the cups makefiles? thought the weren't that bad 17:25 < daja77> esden: yes and faster 17:25 * daja77 runs away 17:25 < esden> daja77: :P 17:25 < mistik1> daja77: they suck 17:25 < mistik1> have me jumping through hoops like a circul clown 17:25 < daja77> have they changed it since the last time i used them 17:25 < daja77> lol 17:25 < mistik1> *circus 17:26 < esden> ahh finally ... second box empty 17:27 < n00kie_> lol mistik1 17:28 < daja77> on the cups that is delivered with rock I didn't have the permissions to print a test page ... 17:28 -!- CyBuX [~nando@200.13.230.194] has joined #rocklinux 17:29 < daja77> bastard print server from hell 17:29 -!- CyBuX [~nando@200.13.230.194] has quit (Client Quit) 17:29 < mistik1> believe it or not I have problems with the functionality of cups or the permission system 17:29 < daja77> ok /me now off for party, cu 17:30 < mistik1> it the make install stage that's screwing the pooch right now 17:30 < daja77> sure I believe it 17:30 < daja77> anyway cu 17:30 < mistik1> l8r 17:38 < esden> ok ... I go hunting 17:38 < esden> cu l8er 17:41 * blindcoder back 17:41 < mnemoc> wb bc 17:43 < blindcoder> thx 17:53 < rolla> daja77: you here? 17:54 < rolla> damn is noone here? 17:57 < blindcoder> esden: please call me when you're here 18:06 < cchamilt> heh 18:06 < cchamilt> hi 18:06 < rolla> hallo 18:06 < mnemoc> the 'no distribution' issue with some licenses is because of mirrors or the existance of the package? 18:06 < cchamilt> reading /. . Now I want to make target for my wrt54g 18:07 < rolla> :) 18:07 < rolla> cchamilt: you and everyone else 18:07 < cchamilt> i though it looked a little linuxy. 18:07 < rolla> oh it is 18:07 < rolla> 2.4.15 18:08 < cchamilt> hmm wonder about its space. 18:08 < rolla> yeah I think it is tight 18:08 < cchamilt> we got diet 18:09 < cchamilt> linksys doesnt seem to list it, so they must static everything in their version 18:10 < cchamilt> they fit a ton of things in it 18:10 < rolla> yup 18:12 < mnemoc> rxr: ping 18:13 < cchamilt> wow 4MB of space! 18:15 < cchamilt> it runs devfs 18:16 < rolla> sweet 18:19 < cchamilt> hmm, i think you have to extract their kernel and drivers, but the rest should be changeable. 18:21 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M363P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:23 < cchamilt> oh well, i need sleep and to calm down. 18:34 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4DC2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:40 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4DC2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:41 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4DC2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:21 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 19:21 < Mike1> Greetings 19:21 < Mike1> anyone could give me a hand with procmail? 19:22 < mistik1> never used it sorry 19:22 < Mike1> ok np mistik1 19:26 < Mike1> ping rxr 19:26 < Mike1> SMP: ? 19:26 < Mike1> :( 19:35 -!- msp[-] [m@p5086F6A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 -!- msp[-] [m@p5086F6A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Ping timeout") 19:35 -!- msp[-] [m@p5086F6A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:36 < msp[-]> re 19:48 < Mike1> hi msp[-] 19:48 < msp[-]> hi Mike1 19:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M363P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:01 < netrunner> Mike1: whats the problem? 20:01 < Mike1> netrunner: read query 20:01 < netrunner> Mike1: lay down on my couch right here and tell? 20:01 < netrunner> Mike1: have you asked google about it? 20:02 < Mike1> netrunner: query, yes i have 20:02 < Mike1> netrunner: query.. 20:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M363P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 20:06 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-114.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@pD9530672.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:13 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839290.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 20:25 < netrunner> blindcoder: you're in a funny mood? 20:25 < owl> rehi 20:25 < blindcoder> netrunner: why? 20:25 < blindcoder> owl: hi 20:29 < netrunner> blindcoder: you are giggling: < blindcoder> hi hi 20:29 < netrunner> owl: hi, 2 20:29 < blindcoder> netrunner: hm... if you say so... 20:30 < owl> hi netrunner , blindcoder 20:30 * blindcoder listening to Weird Al Yankovic - Let's Bomnb Iraq 20:30 < netrunner> blindcoder: so you're in a mad mood? come here friend, sit down, take a cookie and share your problems! :) 20:30 < netrunner> ah, btw, if you won't come to ccc, would you borrow me your gps? 20:31 < blindcoder> netrunner: thanks for the cookie *crunch* 20:31 < blindcoder> netrunner: I won't get it until monday in a week 20:31 < netrunner> :( 20:31 * netrunner want's to try gpsdrive 20:31 < blindcoder> netrunner: me too, already got it installed and packaged :-) 20:32 < blindcoder> netrunner: you'll have to wait till DevMeeting 20:32 < blindcoder> netrunner: btw. my problem is that I'm slowly driving crazy... 20:33 < netrunner> blindcoder: crazy driving slowly might be more secure ... 20:34 < blindcoder> netrunner: might be... but until Wednesday I'm still car-less 20:35 < netrunner> blindcoder: better that hair-less ... muahaha ... what a joke :) 20:35 < blindcoder> It's just that my life currently consists of work, work and even more work... 20:35 * netrunner is now in funny mood. 20:36 < blindcoder> I don't even have time to hang out with my friends anymore... and it just makes me wants to cut my own throat 20:36 < owl> netrunner: please send your drug-dealer to me... i want some of the drugs you're taking, too 20:36 < netrunner> blindcoder: and I have the opposite problem: I have a lot of dev to do at work but can only work 15 more days this year. 20:37 < blindcoder> netrunner: do you still have something you can call social lifo? 20:37 < blindcoder> life even 20:39 < blindcoder> the only non-work human-being-interaction I have at the moment is IRC 20:39 < owl> and what about dancing-lessons? 20:39 < blindcoder> owl: las lesson was two weeks ago 20:39 < blindcoder> dance-seaso is currently on summer-break 20:40 < owl> ah. i c. 20:40 < blindcoder> GAH! And I'm already doing "FrustFressen" 20:40 < owl> .oO(better i won't comment this...) 20:41 < blindcoder> owl: you jst did 20:41 < owl> well better than having "magersucht/bulemie" and "alles auskotzen" 20:41 < blindcoder> owl: well, I feal like I'd rather do taht. 20:41 < blindcoder> at least you can die from that 20:42 < owl> nah. not really... 20:42 * blindcoder now playing Alice Cooper - Poison 20:42 < blindcoder> owl: ever heard of starvation? 20:43 < owl> blindcoder: it is possible, but it's almost impossible because you're feeling such a pain normally then, that you're beginning to eat 20:43 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@Ba73d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < blindcoder> owl: yes... that's called frustfressen 20:44 < owl> nah... 20:44 < owl> auch egal 20:44 < dreamind> Hi 20:44 < dreamind> lol ;) 20:44 < owl> hi dreamind 20:44 < owl> dreamind: ? 20:44 < dreamind> hi owl 20:44 < dreamind> yea? 20:44 < owl> why are you loling around? 20:44 < dreamind> well cause of "frustfressen" ;) 20:44 < blindcoder> I woiuldn't have started eating in the middle of the night (yes) if I wouldn't have too much frust 20:45 < rolla> yawn 20:45 < owl> dreamind: aeh? what's so funny with it? 20:45 < owl> blindcoder: hm. k. and caused by what especially? 20:45 -!- kshdfksdl [~perform@dsl-082-082-146-059.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:45 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508023A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:46 < dreamind> owl: well ok its not funny if youre having "frust" ;) 20:46 < owl> ack. 20:47 < dreamind> hm... is it really that bad? 20:47 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4DC2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:47 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802BCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < blindcoder> dreamind: I feel like jumping in front of the next high-speed-train. bad enough? 20:48 < owl> blindcoder: where? when? might i join? 20:50 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2BA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 20:54 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2BA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:02 < dreamind> blindcoder: oh, bad... 21:09 -!- cytrionx_ [~cytrinox@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 -!- rammi [~Miroslav@216.236.217.175] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 * blindcoder --> bed 21:19 < owl> gn8 blindcoder 21:19 < owl> hi rammi 21:19 < rammi> hihi :)) 21:21 < rammi> how is it..? 21:22 < owl> it...? 21:22 < rammi> how are you? 21:23 < rammi> bad english .. :( 21:23 < owl> hm. feeling like shit (as every day) - thx. you? 21:23 < owl> nah. your english is ok, just my stupidy is too high 21:24 < rammi> not bad.. not bad.. 21:24 < owl> how comes? 21:26 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FFA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Maybe today _IS_ a good day to day.") 21:26 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839290.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:27 -!- cytrionx_ [~cytrinox@dsl-082-082-079-104.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:27 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 < rammi> i dont really know.. just.. try to do something fun.. 21:28 < owl> i c 21:32 < rammi> how can I upgrade my rock-mini-install to dRock.. only gnome2/* X11/* ... 21:33 < rammi> i dont know which CD to download.? 21:34 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-114.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Temet nosce.") 21:35 -!- rammi [~Miroslav@216.236.217.175] has quit ("leaving") 21:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M325P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:55 < dreamind> night ;) 21:55 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@Ba73d.pppool.de] has quit (":x") 21:56 < rxr> re 21:58 < netrunner> hi rxr, you fixed the xfree86 font thing if I read the svn mails right? 21:59 -!- gren|work [~gren@dyn224.iacc-tm4.ndsu.NoDak.edu] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:05 < rxr> netrunner: yes - it should be fixed ... 22:05 < rxr> but for cluster builds it will only be fixed after the next reference build ... 22:06 < netrunner> rxr: where's the difference? you mean that timing issue? 22:07 < rxr> a normal linear build only uses the hardcoded priority 22:07 < netrunner> maybe I just start a single build with tempfs, but that takes 2 days :/ 22:07 < rxr> a parallel cluster build uses the dependency information to schedule the packages over the nodes 22:08 < rxr> so since the font packages do not depend on xfree they are still build before (although this should not matter much since I changed the dir to X11R6, so they would not make XFree fail 22:08 < rxr> but there are font cursor packages that need the fir present ... 22:08 < rxr> netrunner: do you do a cluster build ? 22:08 < netrunner> and the dependency info comes from your reference builds? 22:08 < netrunner> rxr: yes, since i have dual athlon. 22:09 < rxr> netrunner: normally, yes. They are in the .cache files ... 22:09 < netrunner> rxr: it works fine (mostly). only sometimes there are these timing things, where he schedules a depending package, if the prequesite is currently building. 22:09 < netrunner> ah, learned something new :) 22:10 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22:14 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2BA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 22:24 -!- sturm_ [~stefan@pD950EB7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:28 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@B63dc.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:33 -!- kshdfksdl [~perform@dsl-082-082-146-059.arcor-ip.net] has quit () 22:35 -!- Freak [freak@p508B1B80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.182] has joined #rocklinux 22:42 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:42 < Nebukadneza2> hi Nebukadneza 22:42 < Nebukadneza2> ich auch 22:42 < Nebukadneza2> wie gehts denn so? 22:42 < Nebukadneza2> auch gut 22:43 < Nebukadneza2> falscher chan 22:43 < Nebukadneza2> sorry 22:43 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 22:43 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:44 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:44 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-112.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 22:59 < rxr> re 23:02 < jsaw> hi rxr. have a look at package/rene/xemacs-packages/*.desc: line 33 o_O 23:04 < rxr> thanks - fixed 23:04 < rxr> (this happens when you do too much in a putty from work ...) 23:04 < jsaw> confirmed... 23:07 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@B63dc.pppool.de] has quit (":x") 23:15 < daja77> re 23:17 -!- rammi [1000@216.236.217.182] has quit ("leaving") 23:22 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:22 < holyolli> moin 23:22 < rxr> hi holyolli 23:23 < daja77> hi holyolli 23:23 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has quit (Client Quit) 23:23 < daja77> ha 23:24 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839290.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:25 < daja77> freenode url hashing sucks 23:26 < daja77> Mike1: you here? 23:33 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-162-186.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:36 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, Freak, cytrinox, capchaos, rxr 23:37 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla 23:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 23:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: capchaos 23:39 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@213.54.198.251] has joined #rocklinux 23:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 23:49 < Mike1> daja77: yes 23:49 < rxr> hi Mike1 23:49 < Mike1> hi rxr 23:49 < Mike1> rxr: linux 2.6-test2 built fine on my box, have you got some logs for me? 23:50 < sturm_> esden: ping 23:51 < rxr> Mike1: jups 23:51 < Mike1> rxr: see query 23:59 < daja77> hi Mike1 23:59 < Mike1> hi daja77 23:59 < Mike1> daja77: were you looking for me? --- Log closed Fri Aug 01 00:00:04 2003