--- Log opened Mon Aug 04 00:00:07 2003
00:00 < daja77> failures so far
00:00 < daja77>  [5] rene/bitstream-vera-fonts           [5] base/sendmail
00:00 < daja77>  [5] tsa/wxwindows                       [5] nikolaus/cheapskatefonts
00:00 < daja77> 4 of 241
00:02 < daja77> ok wxwindows err is obsolete?
00:02 < tsa> what error do you get?
00:02 < tsa> no xfree etc found?
00:03 < daja77> checking for gtk-config... (cached) no
00:03 < daja77> checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.3... no
00:03 < daja77> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
00:03 < daja77> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
00:03 < daja77> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
00:03 < daja77> *** full path to gtk-config.
00:03 < daja77> configure: error:
00:03 < daja77> Please check that gtk-config is in path, the directory
00:04 < tsa> ah, ok...that one should be fixed by now...problem witht build order..
00:04 < daja77> ok
00:04 < rxr> bitstream-... is now fixed, too
00:04 < daja77> cheapskatefonst has a strange error
00:04 < tsa> $ python -V
00:04 < tsa> Python 2.3
00:05 < tsa> == 23:55:45 =[9]=> Building tsa/wxwindows [2.4.1 2.0.0-rc1].
00:05 < daja77> it seems that it try to access /usr stuff >_<
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00:06 < daja77> gimme rxr back!
00:07 < fake> the current openldap package gives me the creeps...
00:07 < fake> no log and no debug output
00:08 < fake> it is much tooo queit if built without debug flags
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00:08 < daja77> damn server upgrade
00:08 < tsa> hehe
00:09 < fake> never serve a running toucher...
00:10 * fake has a tv next to him
00:10 < daja77> i mean freenode server update
00:10 < fake> daja77: i know
00:10 < fake> just wanted to make some noise
00:10 < daja77> good ...
00:11 < daja77> OH GOOD; NOISE IS GOOD FOR THE EARRS
00:11 < fake> oh, celebrity deathmatch on MTV
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00:13 < daja77> welcome lonely guest
00:14 < daja77> damn /me on orwell too
00:20 < Freak> huh
00:20 < Freak> like "on drugs"?
00:33 < daja77> no on that damn server that disconnects everybody
00:34 < daja77> you are the only one who returned
00:35 < daja77> damn network today
00:35 < daja77> anyway cu
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00:43 < esden> ahh ... ok ... there is the message from lilo
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00:45 < d3mian> hi
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01:21 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
01:21 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Mon Aug  4 00:11:35 2003]
01:21 (Users #rocklinux)
01:21 [ Aard    ] [ esden] [ gomer      ] [ n00kie     ] [ praenti] [ tsa] 
01:21 [ cytrinox] [ fake ] [ hopelessOwl] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla  ] 
01:21 [ d3mian  ] [ Freak] [ kasc       ] [ netrunner  ] [ rxr    ] 
01:21 [ daja77  ] [ Ge0rG] [ mistik1    ] [ owl        ] [ snyke  ] 
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01:21 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug  4 00:11:35 2003
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01:31 < rxr> erhm - we are at revision 1000 ...
01:31 < rxr> s.o. still awake ?
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01:33 < n00kie> yes rxr 
01:33 < tsa> yes.
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01:34 < tsa> GRR
01:34 < tsa> i hate python.
01:35 * rxr too ...
01:35 < tsa> as it seems, a standard (configure, make, make install) isntallation of wxpython does not install wxpython, but wxwindows.
01:35 < tsa> to get wxpython, you'll have to install addtional stuff from a special subdir.
01:36 < tsa> hell, this is ugly.
01:36 < tsa> (expect further patching soon)
01:39 < rxr> my rs6k is now migrating to a new root ...
01:43 < rxr> s/my/the/
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01:51 < esden> rxr: I have seen that ...
01:51 < esden> you spend a beer for that ;)
01:51 < esden> I mean that with the 1000th revision
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02:21 < tsa> rxr: please remove my wxwindows package - wxwindows is already included in the wxpython package (patch still pending on list)
02:22 < tsa> (wxpython doesn't currently build correctly , but i'll send an additional patch as soon as i get it fixed)
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02:27 < SMP> tsa: hmmm
02:27 < SMP> tsa: would be nice to have wxwindows as a seperate package, I think
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02:45 < rxr> tsa: yes - I want a vanilla wxwindows package ...
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02:52 < rolla> re
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02:55 < tsa> ok, keep it then. i'll try to strip down the wxpython package to install nothing but wxpython itself, then.
02:56 < rolla> re
02:57 < tsa> you better don't apply my patch adding wxpython until i fixed this to avoid the "shared files" problem..
02:57 < tsa> i'll resend later.
03:00 < rxr> tsa: ok - ack
03:00 < rxr> gn8
03:01 < tsa> cu rxr
03:02 < n00kie> Sleep well, rxr. 
03:20 < esden> ok ... /me off to berlin
03:23 < n00kie> Have fun esden! :)
03:26 * Ge0rG is going in 30minx
03:26 < Ge0rG> -x+s
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03:33 < tsa> ok, python patch sent.
03:33 < tsa> n8
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07:05 < blindcoder> moin
07:10 < hopelessOwl> moin
07:12 < blindcoder> moin moin owly
07:15 < blindcoder> WEE
07:15 < blindcoder> only two more kilos to go ^^
07:24 < hopelessOwl> hoeh?
07:33 < hopelessOwl> gn8. i'm sleeping again *yawn*
07:34 < blindcoder> 101.7 kilos this morning ^^
07:35 < hopelessOwl> is this good or bad?
07:35 < blindcoder> that's ten kilos down from three months ago ^^
07:35 < hopelessOwl> i c.
07:35 < hopelessOwl> well. how comes?
07:36 < blindcoder> jwell, three months ago I decided that I want to loose weight. And so I did it ^^
07:37 < hopelessOwl> yeah... but how? did you now finally attend the fitnessstudio regularly, or not?
07:37 < blindcoder> well, regularly is bound to definition
07:38 < blindcoder> about 2 times a week I'm there
07:38 < blindcoder> and I've completely changed my way of eating
07:38 < hopelessOwl> O_o
07:38 < hopelessOwl> completely changed...?
07:38 < blindcoder> yes
07:39 < hopelessOwl> <-- lost about 9 kg in ca. 2 month
07:39 < blindcoder> yes, but for another reason, I suppose
07:40 < hopelessOwl> not eating much && sports (bike, horse-riding)
07:41 < blindcoder> hmhm
07:41 < blindcoder> I also just ate less.
07:41 < blindcoder> About one pretzel in the morning
07:41 < hopelessOwl> less.... hmmmmm... define less
07:41 < hopelessOwl> 1 or 2 corny-riegel or nothing
07:41 < blindcoder> a few sausages or something else in that size plus a medium-sized saad at lunch
07:42 < blindcoder> usually only an appple or a few bananas for dinner
07:42 < blindcoder> and almost no sweets anymore
07:42 < hopelessOwl> nothing or corny-riegel in lunch
07:42 < hopelessOwl> evening: having lunch (mostly soup. because forced to eat...)
07:43 < hopelessOwl> no sweets --> dead
07:43 < blindcoder> nah, had only one bar of "Ritter Sport" chocolate in the last 3 months
07:44 < blindcoder> no KFC or McD or BK anymore
07:46 < blindcoder> brb, getting breakfast
07:48 < hopelessOwl> wah
07:58 * blindcoder back
08:00 < hopelessOwl> wb blindcoder 
08:05 < blindcoder> thx
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08:39 < DeElsasser> moin
08:41 < blindcoder> moin moin
08:50 < DeElsasser> pffff, hot, hot, hot....
08:51 < blindcoder> ah, air-conditioned room ^^
08:52 < DeElsasser> :-(
08:56 < blindcoder> I just hope that clifford has some kind af A/C or I'll sleep in my car
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10:12 < gomer> re
10:13 < blindcoder> hi gomer
11:26 < daja77> moin
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11:33 < starlord> can someone say which is better option,using binary install or compiling from source,keep in mind that i cant use march=pentium4 or is that bug fixed?
11:34 < starlord> and if i install using 2beta6 binart,how can i get to use "dev" tree?
11:34 < starlord> s/binart/binary
11:38 < daja77> just do an svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/trunk to get dev src
11:39 < starlord> after binary build,hmm should stone install grub/lilo automatically after install? it didnt for me
11:39 < starlord> and using that 2 beta6 (drock) isos
11:40 < daja77> no you have to do it, you can use stone for grub/lilo setup
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11:41 < daja77> O_o
11:42 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
11:42 < daja77> hi blindcoder 
11:42 < daja77> and welcome Lorini 
11:42 < Lorini> thx :)
11:42 < Lorini> hi
11:42 < daja77> rev 987 build sucks
11:43 < daja77> 897 builds total, 489 completed fine, 12 with errors.
11:45 * daja77 checking commit mails
11:48 < starlord> and what do you think about the binary vs source install?
11:56 < daja77> there is no src install
11:59 < daja77> *grml* how could it happen that build priorities of formally working packages are messed up now?
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12:14 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 
12:14 < Ge0rG> good morning from the camp
12:15 < daja77> oh you are already there, cool
12:15 < daja77> or should i say hot
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12:23 < Be-El> hi ppl
12:23 < daja77> hi Be-El 
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12:26 < starlord> daja77:what do you mean by no src install?
12:27 < daja77> this is not gentoo, so you can't install rock with src packages
12:28 < daja77> if you have a suitrable host distribution you can build rock on your own, and then install your self made binaries
12:28 < starlord> oops,*blush*,that was what i meant :)
12:29 < starlord> by compiling it my self and installing it that way versus iso binary install,i have dRock downloaded
12:30 < starlord> but is it usefull if you cant use pentium4 optimisations
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12:31 < daja77> well install rock from cd and building later could be less pain for you
12:32 < starlord> true,and i get faster my first rock install :)
12:32 < daja77> yes
12:33 < starlord> but can i install it manually,for example i choose console install and install rest of the packages i need from cd,does it handle depencies? for example i want to install kde,does it install needed libs,...,or do i need to install myself?
12:34 < daja77> depends
12:34 < daja77> the installer can hadle depencies to some extend, but you should be careful
12:34 < starlord> that wasnt the answer i wanted to hear :)
12:35 < daja77> i can tell you things you want to hear, but that won't help
12:35 < starlord> but in kde case?
12:35 < daja77> you should install qt as well
12:37 < starlord> i guess most less painfull method is install all
12:38 < daja77> yepp
12:55 < daja77> cu later
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13:40 < jsaw> re
13:41 < SMP> hi
13:41 < jsaw> hi
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13:42 < jsaw> oh oh, forgot a meeting, bbl
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14:19 < hopelessOwl> *yawn* i'm so fscking tired...
14:20 < Be-El> try sleeping ;-)
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14:21 < hopelessOwl> Be-El: i did till now...
14:24 < Be-El> that's a weird behavior for an owl....perhabs you should shift your sleep periods....
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14:26 < owl> *g* nah
14:26 < owl> but - i didn't sleep much on WE... --> had to sleep very long... today...
14:27 < owl> oh. kewl. that's the wrong irssi...
14:27 < hopelessOwl> *rofl* now on the right irssi... and computer ...
14:27 * Be-El senses confusion....
14:28 < hopelessOwl> :p why confusion?
14:28 < Be-El> too less owls for too many irssi
14:28 < Be-El> perhabs you should use xchat with several server tabs *duck*
14:29 < hopelessOwl> hehe. nah. 2 irssi... 2 PCs connected to freenode... because one PC in my intranet is downloading, another is updating openbsd sources && isdn --> ssh is not really funny to use
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14:30 < hopelessOwl> O_o this was too much confusion for ank-MB
14:32 * daja77 infuses anti-confusion gel to owl
14:33 < hopelessOwl> nah. don't infuse something into me. please!
14:33 < daja77> too late
14:34 < hopelessOwl> *grml*
14:34 < Be-El> daja77: do you really want owl to become less confused ?
14:34 < daja77> hmm dunno ...
14:34 < Be-El> imagine what might happen......
14:35 < daja77> imagination buffer overflow
14:35 < Be-El> .oO ( for god's sake i'm living some meters below the ground.... )
14:36 < daja77> huh?
14:36 < daja77> cool cellar?
14:36 < Be-El> yeap
14:36 < Be-El> day light is for the weak ;-)
14:37 < daja77> oops postfix security fix from suse
14:37 < daja77> .oO Be-El is an ork
14:37 < Be-El> *grmpf*
14:37 < hopelessOwl> *lol*
14:48 < rolla> re
14:49 < Be-El> hi rolla
14:50 < daja77> hi rolla 
14:50 * daja77 now off in the damn light and heat
14:50 < Be-El> daja77: have fun ;-)
14:59 < jsaw> re
14:59 < jsaw> hi all
14:59 < Be-El> hi jsaw
15:01 < jsaw> Be-El: concerning directory perms, we have a "games" group. It would be better to chown the scoredir to root.games, and set 0775 perms.
15:02 < Be-El> so every user that want to play games has to be a member of that group ?
15:02 < blindcoder> no, the games have to be setgid games
15:02 < Be-El> and i would prefer 2775 for the directories
15:02 < jsaw> or that.
15:03 < jsaw> but a world writable directory is definitely a no-go.
15:03 < Be-El> i know...it was the first solution to the problem.....setgid sounds better to me
15:04 < Be-El> but it doesn't fix the problem with the empty directories and the filelists
15:04 < jsaw> do a "touch $dir/.dummy" or something like that for now...
15:04 < Be-El> i did it...
15:05 < Be-El> the dummy file was part of the flist....but the directory permissions weren't set to the right value
15:07 < jsaw> I actually don't like to mention this, but I think, we should do something that I was used to from SuSE: a permissions checker/cron job...
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15:12 < Be-El> re
15:12 < Be-El> damned ide
15:12 < rolla> :)
15:12 < Be-El> damned 2.4 kernel
15:12 < Be-El> damned nforc2
15:12 < jsaw> hehe
15:13 < Be-El> *narf* rock configuration is mixed up
15:13 < jsaw> my X Server gets stuck (-> kbd not working any more) once in a while in a signal loop (NVidia...)
15:14 < Be-El> i've hard kernel locks....
15:14 < Be-El> completely dead....even num lock doesn't work
15:15 < jsaw> yes, that's how it looks like here also. But the system is alive, only X is crashed (I can still log in from another computer).
15:15 < Be-El> as far as i was able to test it my network connection is dead, too
15:16 < Be-El> even the harddisk led keeps on glowing if the disk was active that moment
15:17 < Be-El> did you ever try to boot a 2.6 kernel on nforce2 boards ? ;-)
15:18 < jsaw> nope (don't have one)
15:18 < Be-El> got some very "nice" effects....the interrupt counter for the internal usb2 and network device starts increasing like hell......wasting about 25% of cpu load ;-)
15:22 < jsaw> Be-El: what mb?
15:22 < Be-El> asus a7n8x
15:35 < Be-El> *narf* scripts/Config is broken
15:40 < jsaw> ?
15:41 < Be-El> the architecture selector is mixed up
15:43 < jsaw> yep.
15:50 < hopelessOwl> huh? 
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16:22 < blindcoder> WWEEEEE!
16:22 < blindcoder> Wednesday will be a _good_ day ^^
16:22 < rolla> ?
16:22 < rolla> why
16:23 < blindcoder> I'll get my new car, my GPS-Receiver, my new PSU-Cable for my Laptop and a new CD-Rom for my Laptop. And it's my day off!
16:28 < hopelessOwl> O_o
16:29 < blindcoder> owl: ??
16:29 < hopelessOwl> day off
16:29 < rolla> cool
16:30 < blindcoder> owl: yes. Overtime.
16:31 < blindcoder> rolla: yes, indeed :D But I won't be home befor 01:00 AM today for that >_<
16:31 < hopelessOwl> tststs
16:31 < hopelessOwl> hrm. in half an hour my bf will be here :))))
16:32 * blindcoder now starting a size-optimized build for his laptop which only has a 2GB hard disk
16:32 < blindcoder> hehe, owl stopped fucking computers :D
16:32 < hopelessOwl> *rofl* did i say that?
16:32 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: target?
16:32 < blindcoder> owl: well, I just assumed it :D
16:33 < blindcoder> owl: since your patch didn't really apply here, I just used minimal, added X xfree and X icewm as well as X vim
16:33 < hopelessOwl> tststs. nah. fscking computers i will do till i'm as short-sightened, that i'm not able to see anymore
16:33 < hopelessOwl> i c
16:33 < hopelessOwl> why did not apply? O_o
16:33 < blindcoder> and now I hope that it will compile :)
16:34 < blindcoder> owl: maybe I was too stupid for it :)
16:34 < hopelessOwl> hrm... i'm currently building it... for my k6-2
16:35 < hopelessOwl> Error logs from svn976-binary-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree-expert:
16:35 < hopelessOwl> 143 builds total, 7 completed fine, 0 with errors.
16:38 < blindcoder> I'm still at downloading sources
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16:39 < blindcoder> The last minimal build (optimized for speed, not for size) was ~800 MB
16:39 < blindcoder> I hope that this one will be around that, too, so that I have enough space for a lot of maps :D
16:39 < blindcoder> (maps generously provided by Microsoft)
16:41 < blindcoder> everyone is shocked :D
16:42 < hopelessOwl> *lol*
16:42 < blindcoder> http://www.vicinity.com/gif?&CT=48.5:11.0:500000&IC=&W=1280&H=1024&FAM=myblast&LB=
16:42 < blindcoder> maps are like this
16:42 < blindcoder> details go until 250 meters
16:42 < blindcoder> on one 1280x1024 map
16:43 < hopelessOwl> .oO(guess blindcoder is in a strange mood)
16:43 < blindcoder> whyL
16:44 < hopelessOwl> because you're mentioning, that you're using microsoft-maps in #rocklinux :p
16:46 < blindcoder> I rip the maps from them :D
16:48 < blindcoder> that's not the same as paying them
16:49 < hopelessOwl> i c.
16:54 < jsaw> cu l8r
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17:37 < rolla> re fake
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17:53 < tsa> hi all.
17:53 < Be-El> hi tsa
17:55 < daja77> lol ximian bought by novell
17:55 < tsa> huh?
17:55 < tsa> ah
17:55 < tsa> hehe
17:56 < tsa> when will we get ximian netware, then? ;)
17:56 < daja77> dunno
17:56 < daja77> but linux .net should available soon
17:57 < Be-El> or novell will drop that java gui interface to their servers ;-)
17:57 < blindcoder> When hell freezes over. I hope.
17:57 < daja77> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030804/sfm098_1.html
18:00 * rolla screams
18:01 < daja77> hehe
18:02 < hopelessOwl> linux .NET??? as in mono? 
18:02 < daja77> yepp
18:02 < daja77> mono is a ximian project ...
18:03 < Be-El> that's why some of the rock packages are broken ? *duck*
18:03 < daja77> then we can all run owl's leet programs on linux
18:03 < hopelessOwl> leet programs? guess you drunk too much or are dreaming or so.... 
18:04 < hopelessOwl> it's .CRAP-shit... *kick*
18:04 < daja77> well we could run it anyway
18:05 < hopelessOwl> yes. including the bugs i'm implementing ;p
18:06 < daja77> sure
18:07 * daja77 wondering if rolla feels better now
18:08 < Be-El> let's get owl a job at microsoft....
18:09 < hopelessOwl> .oO(someone wants to kill me)
18:09 * daja77 really believes that Be-El is an ork and not from this world ...
18:09 < daja77> btw nice weather outside ...
18:09 < Be-El> *grmpf*
18:10 < daja77> ah the original sound 
18:10 < daja77> don't touch me or I tell gimli about it ...
18:10 * Be-El is nice [tm]
18:11 < hopelessOwl> yes. and the world is flat
18:12 < rolla> gimli?
18:13 < hopelessOwl> == 16:36:44 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
18:13 < hopelessOwl> fsck... this is not nice... *grrrrr* 
18:15 < daja77> rolla: gimli the dwarve (lotr)
18:18 < hopelessOwl> daja77: do you know if the pkg-selection in "custom-expert-build" is a bit broken? at least if i'm doing 'X openbox' it doesn't insert openbox and so into config/$cfg/config.in
18:18 < daja77> dunno building everything always
18:21 < daja77> rotfl http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/copy/15372/1.html
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18:25 < Be-El> re
18:27 < daja77> wb Be-El from the cellar
18:28 < Be-El> did i mention that the link/delink tab function in xchat 1.x is broken ;-)
18:28 < Be-El> well....the time has come
18:29 * Be-El will leave the cellar and hunt some food
18:30 < Be-El> if you find some dried corpse the next days, thats me ;-)
18:30 * daja77 will never touch it
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18:35 < daja77> CyBuX: !
18:36 < CyBuX> hi daja77, howre you?
18:36 < hopelessOwl> wtf is wrong with ./scripts/Create-Diff <old> <new> ????
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18:37 < daja77> CyBuX: fine
18:37 < daja77> hoehm?
18:38 < hopelessOwl> if i'm doing a ./scrctip/Create-Diff and trying to apply the patch, i'm getting errors about rejected patches in rock-new...
18:39 < daja77> you are applying the patchto rock-new?
18:40 < daja77> guess the heat confuses you
18:41 < hopelessOwl> nah. i want to apply the patch to rock-trunk (which is a symlink to trunk) ... but... aehm
18:41 < hopelessOwl> moment. want the patch?
18:43 < daja77> ok mail me
18:43 < hopelessOwl> address?
18:45 * daja77 now off
18:46 < hopelessOwl> hm. when will you have a look to my patch?
18:47 < daja77> when my sister leaves me i gues, sorry she comes earlier than i thought
18:47 < hopelessOwl> oki. anyways thx
18:50 < dennis> re
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19:28 < rolla> ggrrr
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19:33 < hopelessOwl> rehi
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21:12 < netrunne1> hi from da camp
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21:14 < rxr> re
21:15 < rolla> re
21:17 < Freak> re
21:17 < dennis> re
21:18 < tsa> re
21:19 < rxr> wow - so many re's in a row!
21:19 < Freak> so you *had* to destroy that now ... >;)
21:19 < tsa> rxr: please apply some of the patches on the list...
21:19 < Be-El> hi rxr
21:20 < rxr> tsa: I always do when I'm back home ...
21:20 < rxr> hi Be-El 
21:22 * netrunner balancing a wlan antennae on his head for not loosing the link
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21:25 < esden> re hi all
21:26 * -> esden has network too now!!
21:26 < Be-El> hi esden
21:26 < esden> *jumparound*
21:26 < esden> hi Be-El 
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21:27 < Be-El> esden: don't stumple across that network cable over here ;-)
21:27 < Be-El> s/here/ther/
21:28 < tsa> hi ripclaw
21:28 < ripclaw> hi tsa
21:28 * ripclaw working
21:30 < tsa> btw...anyone knows what happened to huebi? haven't heard from him for quite a while..
21:36 < ripclaw> huebi is searching for contracts, he has been without contract for about half a year while working on 1.6-stable...
21:36 < tsa> ah, i see.
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21:41 < ripclaw> tsa have any experience with spam-prevention
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21:44 < tsa> nothing that goes beyond the scope of installing spamassassin.. ;)
21:45 < ripclaw> anything that locally filters ?
21:46 < tsa> no...just on server-side, where local delivery (procmail/cyrus/maildrop/..) takes place.
21:47 < rolla> tsa do you use sendmail?
21:48 < tsa> yes.
21:48 < rolla> :)
21:48 < rolla> I have just installed the new sendmail on my rock 2.0-rc1 box
21:49 < rolla> and I am haivng trouble figuring out what the perms and ownership of the dirs should be :(
21:49 < rolla> Cannot write ./dfh74KIX9S030735 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied
21:50 < tsa> -r-xr-sr-x    1 root     smmsp      599628 May 14 19:19 /usr/sbin/sendmail
21:50 < tsa> drwxrwx---    2 smmsp    smmsp          48 Aug  4 21:46 /var/spool/clientmqueue/
21:50 < tsa> drwx------    2 root     root           48 Aug  4 21:46 /var/spool/mqueue/
21:50 < jsaw> re
21:50 < jsaw> tsa: I have an update for the nvidia driver, interested?
21:50 < tsa> sure ;)
21:51 < jsaw> usual procedure: I send it to the list, and you confirm it?
21:51 < tsa> ok.
21:51 < rolla> an not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied
21:51 < rolla> s/an/can/
21:51 < ripclaw> ls
21:52 < tsa> ls: /home/ripclaw/: Permission denied
21:53 < rxr> oh - we have 884 packages now - I estimate 900 for 2.0.0-final ...
21:53 < tsa> rolla: permissions/ownership of /var/spool/clientmqueue are what on your system?
21:53 < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue
21:54 < rolla> drwxrwx---    2 smmsp    root          720 2003-08-04 15:18 /var/spool/clientmqueu
21:54 < rxr> jsaw: the rockplug stuff looks good!
21:54 < rxr> jsaw: what we meant with hwscan unification is:
21:54 < jsaw> rxr: good to hear, phew.
21:54 < tsa> rolla: chgrp smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue
21:54 < rxr> a /sbin/rockscan
21:54 < rxr> wich will be called with -$system -$deviceid bla bla
21:55 < rxr> and which then executes the proper
21:55 < rxr> /sbin/rockscan.$system with the parameters left over
21:55 < tsa> (your sendmail should be setgid "smmsp" and needs to see the queue directoy..
21:55 < rolla> t: Cannot write ./dfh74KYx9S030795 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied
21:55 < tsa> ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail ?
21:55 < rxr> IISTC this should be "easily" arrangeable in the current rockplug
21:56 < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail
21:56 < rolla> -r-xr-sr-x    1 root     smmsp      597157 2003-08-03 20:33 /usr/sbin/sendmail
21:56 < rxr> and this way it is possible to use only the /sbin/rockscan* files for embedded, bootdisk cases - or (with a special option) to generate the initrd modules ...
21:56 < tsa> ok, sendmail permissions are ok - just fix the clientmqueue stuff and you should be ok.
21:57 < rolla> I did
21:57 < owl> moin
21:57 < dennis> moin owl 
21:57 < owl> hi dennis 
21:57 < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue
21:57 < rolla> drwxrwx---    2 smmsp    smmsp         784 2003-08-04 15:34 /var/spool/clientmqueue
21:57 < netrunner> moin owl
21:57 < tsa> rolla: restarted sendmail afterwards?
21:57 < rolla> doh
21:57 < owl> hi netrunner 
21:57 < owl> daja77: here?
21:58 < rolla> tsa nope still it does not work
21:59 < tsa> uh?
21:59 < tsa> sounds strange.
22:00 < rolla> yeah
22:00 < rolla> collect: Cannot write ./dfh74KeD3l030863 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied
22:00 < rolla> that is what I get in my /var/log/mail file
22:00 < tsa> gid=101?
22:00 < rolla> ?
22:00 < tsa> what's that on your system?
22:01 < tsa> (smmsp gid is 25 afaik)
22:01 < rolla> nothing
22:01 < rolla> sorry
22:01 < rolla> it is smmsp
22:01 < tsa> hm.
22:01 < rolla> tsa it has to be 25?
22:02 < tsa> hm...Docementation/Developers/REGISTER mentions 18 for both uid and gid smmsp
22:02 < tsa> no, it hasn't, i was just wondering..
22:02 < rolla> okay
22:03 < rolla> are they both 18 on your system?
22:03 < rolla> sendmail must be a set-group-ID (default group: smmsp, recommended
22:03 < tsa> no, i have both of them with 25, but this is a custom-built sendmail
22:03 < rolla> gid: 25)
22:04 < rolla> same here
22:04 < tsa> better have a look at op.ps in the sendmail docs, all the required permissions are mentioned there..
22:04 < rolla> okay 
22:04 < rolla> I am looking at sendmail/SECURITY right now
22:05 < tsa> ok..
22:05 < rolla> thanks
22:08 < rolla> tsa it seem the perms /var/spool/mqueue
22:08 < rolla> are what are wrong
22:08 < tsa> root:root, 700
22:08 < rolla> if it is that it cannot write there
22:10 < rolla> thanks I got it fixed
22:11 < tsa> ;)
22:17 < jsaw> rxr: btw, the compiler optimization thing: on of the differences between -O2 and -O3 is -finline-functions IIRC. So for processors with small L1 Cache (e.g. P4), -O3 is most of the time slower than -O2.
22:20 < netrunner> hihi, esden holding a speech about rocklinx is not a dist
22:20 < owl> *g* a speech on CCC-camp?
22:21 < tsa> BTW.
22:21 < tsa> can anyone test koffice and stuff with python 2.3?
22:21 < jsaw> tsa: patch sent and received.
22:22 < tsa> ok.
22:22 < tsa> will ack as soon as it arrives here..
22:24 < tsa> ack'd.
22:24 < jsaw> novell buys ximian... huh?
22:27 < netrunner> owl: no, to some guy from netherlands :)
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22:38 < jsaw> brb
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22:47 < jose__> ehlo everbody !
22:47 < jose__> hm...., Mike1 is not here!, thats odd...
22:49 < rolla> yes he is not here as much as before
22:51 < SMP> hmmm
22:51 < SMP> jsaw: how serious are the problems with the nvidia drivers?
22:51 < jose__> a special reason ?, is he sick ?, fired ?, married ?
22:52 < rolla> he quiet with CR net
22:53 < rolla> quit I mean
22:53 < rolla> so he does not have stable internet access
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22:54 < jose__> hm..., so bad, and so good, maybe I can find a job in my company!, when he comes back you guys can tell him to call me!
22:54 < rolla> I shall try to remember
22:55 * jose__ works for the company, doesnt own it !
22:56 < jsaw> re
22:56 < jose__> when did he quit ?, long time ago ?
22:56 < rolla> 1-2 months maybe
22:56 < jsaw> SMP: what do you mean with serious?
22:57 < jsaw> SMP: the usual X lockups...
22:57 < jose__> I can trust you guys!, can't I ?
22:57 < rolla> jsaw: are you having trouble with nvidia drivers?
22:57 < rolla> yes
22:58 < jose__> ok, give him this link:
22:58 < jose__> http://www.hostarica.com/default.php?page=webpages/Careers
22:58 < daja77> mike will come back tomorrow afaik
23:00 < rolla> yeah I emailed him
23:01 < jsaw> rolla: well, don't know exactly if it's the nvidia driver, but I have X lockups (kbd+mouse gone). Killing X (logged in from another box) then causes severe problems (graphics+console gone, I also had fs corruption, and so on).
23:01 < SMP> jsaw: well I did not know there were any 'usual' problems
23:01 < rolla> suck
23:01 < SMP> I guess I will find out
23:01 < jsaw> SMP: read lkml
23:02 < jsaw> (I don't want to say, the nvidia programmers suck, no they do not. But it looks like, they can't keep the pace of kernel changes due to a lack of programmers in numbers)
23:03 < daja77> .oO mike told me to work never for hostarica ...
23:04 < daja77> anyway /me off again
23:04 < jsaw> cu daja77 
23:04 < jose__> hey daja77 
23:07 < jose__> ok, cool, so, cu, and i wish the best for Mike1
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23:21 < BL|play> bbl
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23:42 < rxr> re
23:43 < rxr> jsaw: I also always had problem with this nvidia binary crap - when I tried a a year ago in dRock-1.4/6 times ...
23:44 < rxr> SMP: any rock-net related news ?
23:45 < tsa> binary crap?
23:46 < rxr> binary only ...
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23:47 < SMP> rxr: no news :-|
23:48 < rxr> SMP: could you checking the current state, so I can do the C prog - and help with it ?
23:48 < rxr> I thought we want to get this into -rc1 for a real feature freeze ...
23:49 < SMP> it's second on my global todo
23:51 < SMP> fuck! I forgot my password for the Camp reg.
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23:55 < SMP> ripclaw: ! you alive?
23:57 < Freak> aaaaah i finally understood the coke-lite-ad
23:57 < Freak> :)
23:58 < Freak> btw guys you should definitely call the next release 9.0
23:59 < SMP> and why can't I use paste at the top level in KEditBookmarks - arrgh
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