--- Log opened Sat Aug 09 00:00:38 2003
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00:45 < mnemoc> re
00:45 < mnemoc> rolla: ping?
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01:45 < tcr> re all
01:48 * tcr watching some anime on Vox
01:48 < hopelessOwl> which anime?
01:49 < tcr> lodoss war or something
01:49 < hopelessOwl> hm. what is it about?
01:50 < tcr> Look at the video text
01:51 < tcr> based on D&D stuff...
01:51 < hopelessOwl> tcr: no tv in this room and too lazy to get up
01:51 < hopelessOwl> d&d?
01:52 < tcr> dungeons and dragons
01:53 < hopelessOwl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. k. thx
01:53 < tcr> with dwarfs, elfs and so on
01:53 < hopelessOwl> *g*
02:01 * hopelessOwl is sleeping. gn8
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02:01 < Mike1> hallo.
02:02 < hopelessOwl> hi Mike1 !!!! :)
02:02 < Mike1> hopelessOwly !!!
02:02 < Mike1> hopelessOwly guess who has finally conection again?
02:02 < hopelessOwl> Mike1: might you? ;)
02:03 < Mike1> YES!!!
02:03 < Mike1> YES YES YES!!
02:03 * Mike1 jumping around
02:03 < hopelessOwl> *gnarf* i wanted to go to bed, and you are apearing, Mike1  ;p not nice
02:03 < Mike1> ah well that kind of things make me intersting
02:03 < Mike1> :P
02:03 < hopelessOwl> hoeh?
02:04 < Mike1> hopelessOwl: don't worry
02:04 < hopelessOwl> Mike1: :ppp
02:05 < Mike1> i feel so happy that i will have to hug you
02:05 * Mike1 gives owl a bear hug
02:05 < hopelessOwl> *rehug*
02:05 < tcr> hi Mike1
02:05 < Mike1> hi tcry, i am finally back :)
02:05 < hopelessOwl> .oO(might tcr is neidisch/eifersuechtig now)
02:06 * tcr too
02:06 < tcr> Just got back some hours ago from malta
02:06 < Mike1> tcr: how was it?
02:07 < tcr> I'm atm watching tv, will tell you later (``tomorrow'')
02:08 < Mike1> ok
02:08 < hopelessOwl> .oO(watching TV is evil)
02:09 < Mike1> TV is the devil
02:09 < Mike1> :P
02:10 < Mike1> ah well folks now that i have conection here i need to fix the mess of wires and stuff 
02:10 < Mike1> i will be back later
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02:27 < tcr> hopelessOwl: still here?
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02:37 < hopelessOwl> tcr: nah... 
02:37 < hopelessOwl> now really off
02:37 < hopelessOwl> gn8
02:43 < mnemoc> which is the name of the php's handler?
02:45 < tcr> Bad point of time to ask that
02:45 < mnemoc> :(
02:47 < tcr> And not many peopl in here are able of php anyway, I think
02:47 < tcr> it's almost 3am here
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02:49 < mnemoc> you 'think' it's almost 3am?
02:49 < mnemoc> that's not good
02:51 < mnemoc> brb
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03:24 < Nebukadnezea> h , i'm hungry !!
03:25 < mnemoc> me too... bye ;)
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09:06 < hopelessOwl> 7WI!
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09:20 < n00kie_> hopelessOwl: o_O?
09:21 < starlord> i'm having some locale problems,anyone care to help me?
09:22 < n00kie_> We try to help :)
09:24 < starlord> i have export LC_ALL='fi_FI@euro' and export LANG='en' shouldnt this enable it that i have finnish keyboard and english system language?
09:24 < starlord> in /etc/profile.d/locale file
09:24 < hopelessOwl> n00kie_: aehmm... my blanket (? decke) spoke
09:25 < n00kie_> hopelessOwl: Ah. 
09:27 < n00kie_> starlord: Moment
09:28 < n00kie_> Try export LANG='en_EN'
09:32 < starlord> i modified locale file but it doesnt take effect until i reboot,shouldnt it work if i just relogin to console?
09:34 < n00kie_> try "init1"
09:35 < n00kie_> if it doesn't works, reboot the machine and see, if you have english system language
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09:36 < hopelessOwl> *g* n00kie_ the luser-help... :p
09:37 < hopelessOwl> why not pointing him to google.com?
09:37 < n00kie_> I'm not that evil
09:37 < blindcoder> moin
09:37 < n00kie_> Hi Blindy :)
09:37 < hopelessOwl> *g* /me != evil ;p 
09:38 < hopelessOwl> hi blindy
09:38 < n00kie_> hopelessOwl: Well, everything other than n00kie is evil. (-;
09:38 < blindcoder> is it just me or is rock mailing list silent at the moment?
09:39 < hopelessOwl> n00kie_: haha. who is now evil, eh? ;p
09:39 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: dunno. still downloading minimal-target-iso *sigh*
09:40 < blindcoder> hm
09:40 < hopelessOwl> hm?
09:41 < blindcoder> nothintg
09:41 < n00kie_> blindcoder: I'm wondering too
09:43 < blindcoder> maybe because everyone iscurrently at CCCamp
09:43 * hopelessOwl hopes that minimal-2.0-beta6-x86-i386_cd1.iso is bootable?
09:44 < blindcoder> okay, now make a decisinon...
09:45 < blindcoder> compiling libtiff libungif gtk+22 and gpsdrive on the laptop
09:45 < blindcoder> or try to reinstall it again...
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09:46 < starlord> hmm,this is so wierd,i get mixed result,few english and finnish messages
09:46 * hopelessOwl wonders how long a reboot of machine takes for starlord - might he is booting into windoze? *vbeg*
09:46 < starlord> no,i rebooted 4 times
09:47 < hopelessOwl> starlord: but this problem is afaik Connecting to iso.rocklinux.de on port 21. Attempt 1 of 3...
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.5 Server (Rock linux Mirror) [oggy.lunds.lu.se]
09:47 < hopelessOwl> USER anonymous
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password.
09:47 < hopelessOwl> PASS *****
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply.
09:47 < hopelessOwl> SYST
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 215 UNIX Type: L8
09:47 < hopelessOwl> Server Type: UNIX (standard)
09:47 < hopelessOwl> PWD
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 257 "/" is current directory.
09:47 < hopelessOwl> TYPE A
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 200 Type set to A.
09:47 < hopelessOwl> PASV
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,61).
09:47 < hopelessOwl> LIST
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
09:47 < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
09:47 < blindcoder> owl?
09:47 < hopelessOwl> Transferred 328 bytes in 0,06 seconds (5,25 KB/s)
09:47 < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,48 seconds
09:47 < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> PWD
09:48 < blindcoder> ehm...
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock" is current directory.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> PASV
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,62).
09:48 < hopelessOwl> LIST
09:48 < starlord> ah,yes,i downloaded those packages from windows machine,i didnt have currently anyother linux in this machine
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> Transferred 128 bytes in 0,03 seconds (4,17 KB/s)
09:48 < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,51 seconds
09:48 < starlord> err,isos i mean
09:48 < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock/stable
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> PWD
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock/stable" is current directory.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> PASV
09:48 < blindcoder> starlord: not every pprogram has i18n support
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,63).
09:48 < hopelessOwl> LIST
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> Transferred 327 bytes in 0,06 seconds (5,32 KB/s)
09:48 < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,56 seconds
09:48 < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6
09:48 < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
09:48 < hopelessOwl> PWD
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6" is current directory.
09:49 < hopelessOwl> PASV
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,64).
09:49 < hopelessOwl> LIST
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
09:49 < hopelessOwl> Transferred 255 bytes in 0,05 seconds (4,98 KB/s)
09:49 < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,54 seconds
09:49 < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6/minimal
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
09:49 < blindcoder> starlord: those that don't usually speak english
09:49 < hopelessOwl> PWD
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6/minimal" is current directory.
09:49 < hopelessOwl> PASV
09:49 < starlord> yep,but i had similar problems when i updated RH8 to RH9 at work,and i somehow got it managed to work,i need english system other than keyboard mappings
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,65).
09:49 < hopelessOwl> LIST
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
09:49 < hopelessOwl> Transferred 187 bytes in 0,03 seconds (6,09 KB/s)
09:49 < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,52 seconds
09:49 < hopelessOwl> TYPE I
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 200 Type set to I.
09:49 < hopelessOwl> PASV
09:49 < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,66).
09:50 < blindcoder> starlord: export LANG="en_US" ?
09:50 < starlord> yep
09:50 < starlord> didnt work
09:50 < hopelessOwl> RETR minimal-2.0-beta6-x86-i386_cd1.iso
09:50 < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for minimal-2.0-beta6-x86-i386_cd1.iso (266502144 bytes).
09:50 < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
09:50 < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
09:50 < blindcoder> starlord: export LOCALE="C" ?
09:50 < starlord> owl:what is this?
09:50 < hopelessOwl> ABOR
09:50 < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
09:50 < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
09:50 < hopelessOwl> 451 Transfer aborted.  Broken pipe
09:50 < hopelessOwl> 226 Abort successful
09:50 < hopelessOwl> Failed [Aborted by user]
09:50 < blindcoder> starlord: seems like she is unable using a mouse :D
09:50 < hopelessOwl> sorry... if this was postet into the channel...
09:50 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: *cough* sorry... notebook... mouse... windows... 
09:50 < hopelessOwl> starlord: what is  what?
09:50 < starlord> that log you pasted to here
09:51 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: nah!!! it was not my bad influence... i'm just lying in the bed... - problems with touchpad....
09:51 < hopelessOwl> starlord: sorry... sorry... sorry... 
09:51 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: bed? with this temperatures? weirdo...
09:51 < starlord> will try that LOCALE="C"
09:52 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: nah. cellar. and . :p not your business :ppppppppp
09:52 < starlord> hmm,but somereason when i put it in /etc/profile.d/locale it doesnt work, i also have to put it in ~/.profile
09:53 < blindcoder> okay, booting with i386 bootdisk-target doesn't work either >_<
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09:55 < hopelessOwl> .oO(4 times again... *cough*)
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09:58 < starlord> bah,LC_ALL will do the trick
10:01 < hopelessOwl> asked the almighty google.com?
10:02 < starlord> hmm,i put export LC_ALL to profile.d/locale but locale cmd still gets fi_FI@euro
10:03 < hopelessOwl> .oO(thought you want fi_Fi ???)
10:03 < starlord> no i want otherwise english system except my keyboard mapping to finnish
10:04 < starlord> which now works
10:04 < hopelessOwl> hmmm. 
10:05 < starlord> but if i add new user,it has to edit/create ~/.profile file and put export LC_ALL='en_EN' otherwise it doesnt work, i have it on profile.d/locale but it has no effect
10:07 < starlord> and why does ./Build-Pkg libidl10 issuses cmd Build-Tools -9 -cfg default?
10:09 < hopelessOwl> issueses ???
10:10 < starlord> ah,executes
10:10 < starlord> bad english
10:12 < starlord> i have lots of not installed depencies by other progs,any easy way to check what needs to be installed and what not?
10:15 < hopelessOwl> aehm... moment... you're building the not resolved dependcy-packages? 
10:17 < starlord> hmm,for example svn needs libaprutil but i dont know which package has it,so i need found out that what packages needs to be installed so that all of my already packages should work,meaning no depencies
10:18 < starlord> err,already packages should be already installed packages
10:20 < hopelessOwl> aehm... google.... and freshmeat... 
10:20 < blindcoder> aprutil is in apache2
10:21 < starlord> yep i know,but isnt there a script that read'
10:21 < starlord> ups,moment
10:21 < starlord> yep i know,but isnt there a script that reads package cache files and parses out [DEP] lines and see if they are installed or not,and if not,installs them?
10:21 < blindcoder> Emerge-Package
10:22 < starlord> crap,i have always used Build-Pkg,will switch to that
10:22 < starlord> does it also generate those gem files or is it only on ISO building....?
10:24 < blindcoder> no gem files IIRC
10:24 < blindcoder> it installs into currently running system
10:24 < starlord> yep,Emerge-Pkg only issues Download and Build-Pkg at the end of script so it basically sames as Build-Pkg except does depency checks
10:25 < starlord> at least i got that impression from looking source
10:25 < blindcoder> yes, that's what it does
10:33 * hopelessOwl now installing rock-minimal on this notebook
10:33 < hopelessOwl> bbl
10:33 < blindcoder> have fun
10:37 < n00kie_> Have Fun, owl. :)
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10:42 < blindcoder> compiling on a 133 MHz machine sucks >_<
10:42 < gt3> compiling sux
10:42 < blindcoder> but at least the touchpad works again
10:43 < blindcoder> gt3: then tell me where I can still get glibc22 and gcc2 compiled binaries for a few gnome2 packages
10:45 < blindcoder> also, libtiff libjpeg libungif and gpsdrive
10:49 < gt3> libido
10:50 < blindcoder> ?
11:25 < starlord> hmm,Emerge-Pkg does only check depencies of package i'm about to install,how do i check if i have not installed packages that my already installed packages needs?
11:28 < blindcoder> building them again?
11:30 < starlord> argggg,no other way?
11:32 < blindcoder> don't think so
11:35 < starlord> and how do i make iso of my currently running system,do i have to make a target for it,or anyother way?
11:36 < blindcoder> cchamil wrote a Create-Target script which creates a target of currently installed system (by using /var/adm information)
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11:37 < netrunner> moin
11:37 < starlord> but its not in the svn
11:37 < blindcoder> moin netrunner 
11:38 < blindcoder> starlord: it should be on the mail-archives of the last 2-3 weeks
11:38 < blindcoder> netrunner: moin moin
11:38 < starlord> ok,checking
11:39 < blindcoder> netrunner: how's the camp going?
11:50 < blindcoder> he's about as responsive as esden... clearly too much close contact...
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12:14 < fake> moun
12:15 < blindcoder> moin moin
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12:19 < blindcoder> compiling gtk+22 on a 133 MHz machine takes ages >_<
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12:23 < netrunner> blindcoder: fine :) 
12:23 * netrunner is just annoyed of a guy having it's incoming dir writeonly
12:24 < blindcoder> netrunner: hrm... that's bad :-)
12:24 * blindcoder currently ponders whether he should eat something or not
12:44 < blindcoder> ah, finally make install is running (after 2 hours)
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15:34 < blindcoder> WEE! Finally I have an install-shell on my laptop!
15:34 < blindcoder> now all i need is a diet-libc mine...
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16:00 < blindcoder> anyone here?
16:00 < blindcoder> okay *MUAHAHAHA*
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16:04 < blindcoder>                                                                    
16:04 < blindcoder> finally my laptop is installing ^^
16:05 < hopelessOwl> rehi
16:05 < hopelessOwl> don't remind me about installing notebooks
16:06 < hopelessOwl> wtf is a "intel centrino" what to choose in the kernel?
16:06 < blindcoder> well, I use the drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso to xboot the laptop
16:06 < blindcoder> then copy a dietlibc-static built mine
16:06 < blindcoder> and install the system from the "normal" laptop_cd1.ise
16:07 < hopelessOwl> i c.
16:07 < blindcoder> and it is finally installing now!
16:07 < hopelessOwl> hehe. congrats
16:07 < blindcoder> If it will work... we'll see...
16:07 < hopelessOwl> at least it is already installed here... but not able to get a usable kernel... 
16:07 < blindcoder> best is, the drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso is smaller than 9 MB :-)
16:08 < hopelessOwl> O_o
16:08 < blindcoder> yes, it's really only the BOOT-CD
16:08 < blindcoder> then you have two other DATA-CDs :-)
16:08 < blindcoder> so downloading and writing was done in a flash
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16:09 < hopelessOwl> hi capchaos 
16:10 < capchaos> Hi, Owl!
16:10 < blindcoder> hi cappy!
16:10 < hopelessOwl> http://tuxmobil.org/centrino.html
16:10 < capchaos> blindy! 
16:10 < hopelessOwl> *headshot*
16:12 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: sucks.
16:14 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: yeah
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16:21 < snyke> blindcoder: 
16:21 < snyke> are you here?
16:25 < blindcoder> snyke: yes
16:27 < snyke> look: 
16:27 < snyke> http://de.php.net/
16:28 < snyke> that's why http://www.php.net/ points currently to http://static.php.net/ :D
16:28 < blindcoder> MUAHAHAHAHA
16:28 < blindcoder> 403 Forbidden
16:28 < blindcoder> on static :D
16:28 < blindcoder> BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
16:29 < snyke> I just saw static blinking short while looking on php.net
16:29 < blindcoder> MUAHAHHAA
16:29 < blindcoder> good work, boy :D
16:30 < snyke> or
16:30 < snyke> no idea what's up with them
16:30 < blindcoder> I suppose they updating the PHP-Version and it had a bug
16:33 * blindcoder --> Anime
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18:35 < Mike1> moin all
18:36 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 
18:36 < Mike1> good day blindy
18:37 < blindcoder> it's almost evening here ^^
18:38 < Mike1> blindy ah well.. i just woke up
18:39 * blindcoder currently fighting with kernel and pcmcia on laptop
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18:40 < Mike1> have fun blindy
18:40 < blindcoder> thanks >_<
18:41 < blindcoder> even installing this machine was a PITA
18:44 < tcr> hi Mike1, blindcoder
18:44 < blindcoder> hi tcr
18:45 < Mike1> hello tcr
18:45 < tcr> blindcoder: do you know lodossos war (or something like that)?
18:45 < blindcoder> and I'm running out of SWAP again
18:45 < blindcoder> tcr: Record of Lodoss War
18:45 < tcr> blindcoder: it's some anime that came this night on vox
18:45 < blindcoder> i don't have a TV
18:46 < tcr> It _came_ ;)
18:46 < blindcoder> ok ok *hides(
18:46 < tcr> Just watched part one and two of three being broadcasted (I was too tired after the second one to continue watching)
18:47 < blindcoder> I haven't seen it yet
18:47 < tcr> Oh well, I have no plan how they cutted that together
18:47 < tcr> One time it's about this, then about that 
18:48 < tcr> But context got lost
18:48 < blindcoder> hmm... usually vox is said to be quite reliable about how they stream it...
18:48 < tcr> Maybe vox shuffled some episodes wrongly or whatever
18:48 < tcr> Hmm. Ok I might have been just too tired to follow it
18:49 < blindcoder> hehe
19:00 < tcr> Mike1: About my vacations: They were more or less crappy. Mean reason was the heat (40C in shade and that at morning), it was to terribly unbearable that you couldn't do anything until evening. But, where I was accommodated, was quite far away from the two main cities, so that the bus connection was the utter fuck (after 9pm direct buses didn't leave anymore, I would have to take taxis which were fucking expensive). Another reason was the host f
19:00 < tcr> amily I was in, they shouted always at eachother even when I was directly close to them (my presence didn't disturb them in anyway). Not speak about the food I got... barf barf barf! Eh, and at last, the activities I paid for consisted actually totally of party, party, party (over the day at the beach and at night in one of the several discos) -- Well, I'm absolutely not really the kind of person who likes party.
19:04 < Mike1> i know, poor tcr
19:04 < Mike1> so next year u better come to cr :)
19:05 < tcr> I hope my parents let me
19:05 < Mike1> me too
19:05 < tcr> They only let me go to malta this year because it was a language trip, you know..
19:05 < Mike1> ah yeah
19:06 < tcr> Ah I forgot something:
19:06 < Mike1> wut?
19:06 < tcr> I haven't mentioned the fireworks! Everyday fireworks
19:06 < tcr> Well that sounds nice, but listen:
19:06 < tcr> Not normal fireworks, no, something that makes noise as if a bomb fell down
19:07 < tcr> everyday!
19:07 < tcr> You're woken up by those at 8am, and go sleeping with them at 11pm
19:07 < tcr> At this wednesday they shut 'em up from 7pm to 11:30pm
19:08 < tcr> A wonder that I'm still able to hear anything
19:10 < tcr> Astounded, wha?
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19:18 < tcr> Hey cool Enterprise on Sat1
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