--- Log opened Mon Sep 01 00:00:31 2003
00:03 < rxr> for the next days:
00:03 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/rockplug.html
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00:05 < esden> rxr: *klick*
00:07 < esden> rxr: very nice ... that is what I wanted... at least for the beginning ;)
00:12 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/rocknet.html
00:12 < rxr> now we have more rocknet homepage then code :-(
00:13 < esden> rxr: that is bad ... why is smp not sending the stuff he has?
00:13 < esden> IIRC he said that he has done some work ...
00:13 < rxr> too busy it seems
00:14 < rxr> I'll checking the first tarballs I have since months tomorrow and start coding myself ...
00:14 < esden> hmm ... ok it is understandable if he is too busy
00:14 < esden> yes I think that would be the best
00:15 < esden> but you also could ask him to send you the newest stuff he has
00:15 < rxr> I asked so often
00:15 < esden> even if it is messy and not ready
00:15 < esden> ahh ok
00:15 < rxr> SMP: maybe you listen? ;-)
00:16 < rxr> I would be really really happy if I could get some plain tarball to continue the work ... ,)
00:19 < esden> and what do you have currently?
00:20 < rxr> his first RAD prototype
00:20 < rxr> I said he already streamlined it ..
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00:23 < esden> RAD?
00:25 < rxr> rapid application development
00:26 < rxr> technology study or however you call cut'n paste ;-)
00:26 < esden> RAD prototype for rocknet? is it not written in sh?
00:26 < rxr> yep, sh, asci tag files, and maybe a tiny C helper application
00:29 < esden> hmm ... that will be not so trivial to get rocklinux to compile in cygwin ... 
00:30 < esden> but I really like the idea to get cygwin target in rocklinux
00:30 < esden> that would also be a test for rocklinux framework flexibility
00:30 < rxr> not bad:
00:30 < rxr> 1804 builds total, 1767 completed fine, 37 with errors.
00:30 < rxr> reference build ...
00:30 < esden> but I have to take a deeper look in it and have a more instant access to a windows box ... :/
00:31 < rxr> now I do a final -newdelete build of this reference thing and start fixing it ...
00:31 < esden> rxr: that really sounds nice
00:33 < rxr> hm - do I go to bed now ...
00:34 < esden> dunno rxr ... that is a decision you have to make
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00:53 < esden> ohhh baaaaad
00:54 < esden> I can not make a base installation only with the first iso of drock-rc1
00:54 < esden> rxr: I thought you already have made something with that problem ...
00:54 < esden> linux24, lilo and many other base packages are on the second cd ...
00:54 < esden> >_<
01:00 < rxr> yes - that is still a todo or flyspray item
01:00 < rxr> I'll try to do this for -rc2
01:01 < esden> that is ok ...
01:01 < esden> it was not an attack or so
01:01 < esden> I only was shocked because I was nearly sure you have done it already
01:03 < esden> rxr: you know what would be nice ?
01:03 < esden> providing a bootonly cd/floppy that allow you to install everything from internet
01:03 < rxr> esden:  I know
01:03 < esden> so that you do not have to download the iso's
01:04 < rxr> but I'm also only human ...
01:04 < esden> rxr: it was only an idea
01:04 < esden> I will take a look at that how much work it would be
01:04 < esden> and try to make it possible
01:05 < rxr> esden: you do not need to to so - alpha patches or dietlibc would be nicer - I already know the Create-ISO script and know what I need there ....
01:06 < esden> rxr: you will get them ... for sure ... 
01:06 < esden> first one's will go to mailinglist tomorrow I promise
01:06 < rxr> ok - but I do not know if I want to apply big dietlibc - change eerything - patches before -rc2
01:07 < rxr> maybe I'll tag -rc2 tomorrow or the day after so I do not destabelize it with the then ongoing dietlibc and rocknet stuff ...
01:07 < rxr> hm - damn static generation fo the .org site ...
01:08 < esden> no you will get small patches
01:09 < esden> I will split the dietlibc changes in small steps so that it is overseeable what changed and what is being affected
01:10 < daja77> gn8 you all
01:11 < esden> n8 daja77 
01:13 < esden> wee busybox compiles under dietlibc ;)
01:13 < esden> now we have busybox in dietlibctarget
01:13 < esden> thanks olaf ;)
01:22 * rxr spamming the auth system of freshmeat.net
01:22 < rxr> maybe I get the highest vitality for yesterday (or they kick my ass ...)
01:23 < mnemoc> vitality is a preaty ambigous concept :|
01:24 < rxr> as long as we are in the top 20 ;-)
01:25 < rxr> maybe we are in the top 10 in some weeks ...
01:25 < rxr> doing a rock release every 8 days .... *g*
01:26 < mnemoc> why need to increase popularity :)
01:28 < rxr> s/why/we/
01:28 < mnemoc> :)
01:28 < mnemoc> yes
01:31 < esden> rxr: ???
01:32 < rxr> esden: ?
01:34 < mnemoc> ?^?
01:36 < rxr> hm - anyway - need sleep - cu
01:37 < esden> rxr: could you please approve me in freshmeat system?
01:37 < esden> so I can add you to my friends? ;)
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02:30 < rxr> cool
02:30 < rxr> gsmp.tfh-berlin.de:
02:30 < rxr> May 2003 32.18 GB
02:31 < rxr> Jun 2003 104.10 GB
02:31 < rxr> Jul 2003 189.29 GB
02:31 < mnemoc> WOW
02:31 < rxr> Aug 2003 204.87 GB
02:31 < rxr> today: Sep 2003 589.88 MB
02:32 < rxr> I think iso.rocklinux.de as equal numbers ...
02:33 < rxr> currently it is flooding with "5473.10 kBit/s
02:33 < rxr> " on that box ...
02:33 < rxr> I hope my uni likes this ...
02:34 < rxr> ok - my finally off to bed ... - cu
02:34 < mnemoc> cu
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03:02 * -> esden printed out the rl-handbook for offline reading ;)
03:02 < esden> I hope rxr has nothing against it ...
03:06 < mnemoc> it's patented :
03:06 < mnemoc> :|
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03:09 < esden> it is under a "strange" license ;)
03:09 < esden> but I printed it only for my own use ... so it should be no problem
03:10 < mnemoc> if he approve you in freshmeat means he has no problems ;)
03:22 * -> esden testing network installation now
03:22 < esden> still there is no right directory selection in networkinstall in stone
03:22 < esden> I have to change that ...
03:22 < esden> mnemoc: hehe ... good point
03:24 < esden> mnemoc: but you could approve me ;)
03:25 < mnemoc> w8
03:25 < esden> hmm ... the network install error handling should also be improoved ...
03:26 < mnemoc> done
03:29 * -> esden testing fm instant messaging ;)
03:36 < mnemoc> mm
03:37 < mnemoc> how does that works?
03:39 < esden> dunno ... I sent you an instant message ...
03:40 < esden> you may answer ... I hope at least you can ;)
03:44 < mnemoc> where should i see your 'call'?
03:45 < esden> dunno ... send me simply an instant message ...
03:45 < mnemoc> sent
03:47 < mnemoc> new mail (3) :)
03:48 < esden> I got it
03:48 < esden> now I replyed ;)
03:49 < mnemoc> i was waiting somekind of popup 
03:49 < esden> I hoped that it will work that way .. but that would need some active component in the site like an open http connection, java script or even worse java applet
03:49 < esden> all that would suck
03:50 < mnemoc> using html refresh should be enought
03:50 < mnemoc> and javascript :)
03:51 < esden> *puke*
03:51 < esden> yes ... would be enough
03:51 < esden> I think open http connection is the most clean solution for something like that ... but dunno if it is really a solution for a site as big as fm
03:52 < esden> ohh
03:52 < esden> it is working automatically ...
03:52 < esden> o_O
03:52 < esden> I have not refreshed the site by hand and now the new mail is blinking
03:52 < esden> humm ... but I have no new mail o_O
03:53 < esden> that is all strange ...
03:53 < esden> ok ... /me -> :-Q
03:53 < esden> brb
03:54 < mnemoc> :)
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03:59 < esden> re
04:00 < esden> hehe rock installed from net
04:00 < esden> nice
04:00 < fake> on cygwin?
04:01 < esden> no .. sadly that will need bit more work
04:02 < fake> why?
04:02 < esden> I installed it on one of the shiny new 2.4 Ghz bitz boxes ;)
04:02 < mnemoc> i want to split mine in libgem+mine, and create a drawf (libcurl+libgem) for install and updates
04:02 < esden> because not even the dialog needed for scripts/Config is compiling correctly
04:03 < esden> mnemoc: write to the mailinglist or directly to clifford ...
04:03 < mnemoc> 2.1 or 2.0?
04:03 < fake> that would be rocket ?
04:04 < esden> humm ... can be 
04:04 < fake> there's a fr in flyspray somewhere
04:04 < fake> or rfc
04:04 < esden> ahh and hi fake sbtw ;)
04:05 < esden> fake: dunno if there is an issue about that
04:07 < esden> but the search does not spit anything out ...
04:07 < mnemoc> i like dwarf more :)
04:07 < fake> it's in the todo for 2.1 that crossed the ml some time ago (before devmeeting)
04:07 < fake> dwarf is kewl
04:07 < fake> hi esden
04:08 * fake worked through his stack ;)
04:10 < thorus> ich verzieh mich dann auch mal... gn8
04:10 < esden> gn8 thorus 
04:10 < thorus> sry, amsg.. in english: i go ;)
04:11 < fake> bye
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04:13 < esden> o_O
04:26 < esden> hmm rockplug fscks around >_<
04:42 < jsaw> wtf have I done wrong this time...
04:53 < esden> dunno ... I have to take a closer look ... it is not loading modules like it should ...
04:54 < esden> but now I have to leave
04:54 < esden> cu tomorrow
04:54 < esden> n8
04:54 < jsaw> n8 esden
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06:33 [ Aard     ] [ daja77  ] [ jsaw     ] [ owl      ] [ snyke        ] 
06:33 [ alanw    ] [ esden   ] [ mistik1  ] [ praenti  ] [ th           ] 
06:33 [ aszlig   ] [ Freak   ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr      ] [ thorus`zzZZzz] 
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07:39 * mistik1  goes to bed now, even geeks must sleep sometime
07:40 < mistik1>  g`night all
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08:05 < _NULL_> moin
09:18 -!- dev0 [tobias@pD9EE313E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
09:20 < _NULL_> hi dev0
09:24 < dev0> hi
09:24 < dev0> the rocklinux HP confused me...
09:30 < _NULL_> y?
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10:13 < daja77> lol the lusers are shameless
10:13 < daja77> moin all
10:13 < netrunner> moin, too
10:13 < praenti> moin
10:15 < daja77> one of them pasted his crappy src code to rtai ml, wants to have comments why it doesn't work, first thing i spotted was a missing # for preprocessor include ...
10:16 < praenti> ??? perhaps this person should first learn programming
10:16 < praenti> nene
10:16 < daja77> yeah perhaps
10:17 < daja77> oh no this guy is doin commercial programming
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10:26 * netrunner finished update of build with 60 errs and creates isos now.
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10:29 < hopelessOwl> moin
10:33 * netrunner tuning to wise guys 'jetzt ist sommer' since it is damn cold here.
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10:34 < hopelessOwl> hi netrunner , DeElsasser , fake 
10:35 < hopelessOwl> netrunner: alsamixer MUTE
10:38 < daja77> wb DeElsasser 
10:39 < DeElsasser> hi daja77
10:39 < daja77> how was your vacation?
10:39 < netrunner> hopelessOwl: alsamixer@owl LOUD
10:40 < hopelessOwl> netrunner: *kick* not nice.
10:41 < DeElsasser> daja77: finished ;-(
10:41 < daja77> but fun
10:41 < daja77> hmm ic
10:41 < hopelessOwl> hi daja77 
10:41 < hopelessOwl> daja77: this song is fun?
10:42 < hopelessOwl> *shivers* it's fscking cold in here. *ARGHL*
10:42 < DeElsasser> daja77: schön la Bretagne...
10:42 < daja77> hopelessOwl: teasing you is fun ...
10:42 < daja77> DeElsasser: i know ;-)
10:43 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick*
10:43 < DeElsasser> is here a postgresql specialist?
10:43 * daja77 once was
10:44 < DeElsasser> it's not a problem with postgre himself but with libpq++
10:56 < DeElsasser> daja77: why 'was'? No more database needed?
10:56 < daja77> no need atm
10:56 < DeElsasser> atm?
10:58 < hopelessOwl> at the moment
10:59 < DeElsasser> hi Owl, hopeless...
10:59 < DeElsasser> nobody to kill today?
11:00 < hopelessOwl> DeElsasser: hm. let me guess... yes... you *har*
11:00 < DeElsasser> http://gborg.postgresql.org/project/libpqpp/bugs/bugupdate.php?410
11:01 < DeElsasser> can somebody say me what to do with all that...
11:02 < DeElsasser> is there a solution, or it's on comming?
11:08 * DeElsasser must go, see you afternoon
11:47 < th> hi there
11:49 < hopelessOwl> hi th 
11:50 < th> hi owl
11:54 < fake> hi th
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12:13 < netrunner> hm ... shall I be concerned when my packages.db contains only dirtree?
12:22 < netrunner> ifenslave does not get it's package name right, I get ifenslave-0.gem
12:23 < netrunner> (instead of ifenslave-2.4.22.gem)
12:28 < SMP> th: hi!
12:30 < fake> SMP: hi!
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12:44 < thorus> moin
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13:31 * netrunner manually zusammenfummels his package.db
13:37 * hopelessOwl waiting ungeduldig for her breakfast (pizza)
13:48 < netrunner> argl, there is a > missing in my scripts/functions create_package_db() ??
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14:19 < netrunner> hrmpf, rene broke the create_package_db
14:20 * netrunner likes svn log  and svn diff  to find out the guilty
14:26 < hopelessOwl> n what rev?
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14:29 < hopelessOwl> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!
14:30 < DeElsasser> BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBRGH!!!!!!!!!!!
14:30 < daja77> hehe
14:30 < hopelessOwl> how stupid can people be???????? 
14:30 < daja77> open set
14:30 < hopelessOwl> " pizzaservice bekommt es nicht gebacken mir 'ne verdammte pizza zu liefern... 3 telefonate, 1 onlinebestellung, 1 std. --> immer noch keine pizza da!"
14:30 * hopelessOwl exploeds
14:31 < hopelessOwl> s/exploeds/explodes
14:31 < daja77> they don't like you ...
14:31 < hopelessOwl> yes... seems so...
14:31 < hopelessOwl> might the pizza will arrive tomorrow *grml*
14:31 < daja77> they delivered to me instead ...
14:31 < DeElsasser> kill they ;-))
14:32 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick* send it by snailmail back to munich, please
14:32 * daja77 eating owl's pizza
14:32 < hopelessOwl> DeElsasser: i will
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14:33 < hopelessOwl> hi Iets 
14:34 < Iets> howdie :)
14:35 * DeElsasser find old sausages and can give some to Owl...
14:35 < hopelessOwl> DeElsasser: hehe. you're evil :p
14:38 * netrunner just read that an old friend is now working for ms as the responsible guy for contact with government
14:43 < daja77> netrunner: erhm are you still friends?
14:45 < esden> good morning everyone
14:45 < esden> argh ... the downoad is still running >_<
14:45 < netrunner> daja77: went for pizza with his wife and daughter some years ago ... no contact since then.
14:45 < netrunner> esden: even without l? *g*
14:47 < esden> netrunner: yes even without l ;)
14:50 * fake getting something to eat
14:50 < daja77> fake: give sth to owl ;-)
14:51 < fake> narf
14:51 < fake> chinaman is closed already
14:51 < daja77> huh at this time?
14:51 < daja77> hmm i could get chinese food here ...
14:51 < esden> morning fake, daja77 ...
14:51 < daja77> huhu esden 
14:52 < Iets> just a random question
14:52 < Iets> what is the best windowmanager for a slow pc ?
14:52 < daja77> blackbox
14:52 < Iets> slow as in Pentium 2 233
14:52 < fake> windowmaker
14:52 < daja77> nah
14:52 < fake> or twm...
14:52 < daja77> lol
14:52 < DeElsasser> windows3.1
14:52 < esden> nah ... not wm
14:52 < esden> fluxbox ;)
14:53 < daja77> ack
14:53 < Iets> hmmmmz
14:53 < esden> fluxbox is more usable then blackbox
14:53 < daja77> any blackbox derivate
14:53 < fake> Pentium2 233 is not slow...
14:53 < esden> and on 233 it is very usable
14:53 < esden> I used it on my pentium 233 laptop for a long time
14:53 < Iets> fake: too slow for my likings
14:53 < fake> 386 is slow
14:53 < Iets> lol
14:53 < fake> m86k is sloooow...
14:53 < daja77> .oO my granny runs kde on a pentium 133
14:53 < Iets> :D
14:53 < esden> fake: 8080 is slow ;)
14:54 < daja77> my packet calculator is slow >_<
14:54 < daja77> pocket
14:54 < Iets> k, fluxbox it will be...
14:54 < esden> Iets: full ack
14:54 < esden> hmm ... it seems I still have not packaged fluxbox for rock >_<
14:54 < esden> GRRR ... stupid me
14:55 * daja77 waiting for owl saying openbox
14:55 < esden> ROFL
14:56 < DeElsasser> owl find something to eat?
14:56 < daja77> if esden would tell the truth he'd admit using metacity ...
14:57 < daja77> DeElsasser: keep your old sausages, we can have fresh ones here every day :P
14:59 < daja77> *aaargh* /me hates no rtfm'ing people
14:59 < DeElsasser> rtfm?
15:00 < daja77> read the _fine_ manual
15:00 < esden> hmm galeon is segfaulting ...
15:01 * -> esden not using metacity
15:01 * daja77 just tried some nice games fro kasc repo
15:01 < esden> currently I use windowmaker
15:02 < DeElsasser> woaw: xfree86 41Mo
15:04 * daja77 just looking at code he must have written when bein on dope
15:06 < netrunner> Iets: wmx
15:07 < Iets> lol
15:07 < Iets> wasn't expecting any answers anymore ;)
15:08 < daja77> Iets: ask dreamind when he is around ;-)
15:08 < netrunner> Iets: I started reading from esdens answer :)
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15:08 < holyolli> moin
15:09 < hopelessOwl> hi holyolli 
15:09 < holyolli> hi hopelessOwl
15:10 < hopelessOwl> wow. my pizza was delivered after about 1 1/2 to 2 hours! (but i got it for free because of this *g*)
15:11 < daja77> free and cold?
15:12 < hopelessOwl> daja77: free and warm 
15:12 < hopelessOwl> (and a drink additional - for free) ;)
15:13 < daja77> enjoy!
15:13 < hopelessOwl> daja77: already did. thx ;)
15:14 < Aard> hopelessOwl: please route it to me...
15:15 < hopelessOwl> Aard: the output of the rest of the pizza? O_o 
15:16 < daja77> output, urgs
15:16 < hopelessOwl> *vbeg*
15:17 < hopelessOwl> *sigh* still 4:30 hours till i see my boyfriend *cries*
15:19 < daja77> still 4 weeks till i see my gf, so stop crying
15:20 < hopelessOwl> daja77 && gf? O_o since when?
15:20 * holyolli didn't see his gf for 5 months and when i came back she went to vacation 2 days later... =)
15:20 < daja77> poor holyolli 
15:20 < DeElsasser> owl: 4 weeks
15:21 * DeElsasser see his wife every day...
15:21 < holyolli> daja77: it was ok - i anyway didn't had that much time
15:21 * hopelessOwl sees her bf every day
15:23 < jsaw_> re
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15:23 < hopelessOwl> hi jsaw 
15:23 < jsaw> hi owl
15:24 < DeElsasser> hi jsaw
15:25 < jsaw> hi DeElsasser 
15:25 < DeElsasser> thx for scribus
15:25 < jsaw> bug in XFree86 font libs 4.3.0-4.3.99.11...
15:26 < daja77> wow that is a long period
15:26 < jsaw> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/dab-01.09.03-000/
15:27 < hopelessOwl> alsamixer@annette: MUTE
15:27 < daja77> anette?
15:27 < jsaw> wrong channel?
15:28 < hopelessOwl> nah...
15:28 < hopelessOwl> annette = my co-worker... she's talking the whole day... and if not talking, then listening to awful, painful music - called britpop
15:29 < daja77> hehe
15:29 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick* not funny :p
15:30 < netrunner> svn: The REPORT request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1855: Opening and ending tag mismatch: D:creationdate line 0 and D:crea
15:30 < daja77> ahem #svn is the door next ;-)
15:31 < jsaw> netrunner: retry, seems like broken connection
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15:39 * netrunner throws his svn binarys at daja77 
15:40 < netrunner> jsaw: yes, continues :)
15:40 < jsaw> dsl...
15:40 < daja77> netrunner: you can keep them :P
15:40 < daja77> violent guy ...
15:43 < esden> ahh nice ... now the display is also configured correctly ;)
15:47 < netrunner> a2ps needs xfree86 which needs gnome-print10  ... ... whicht needs world-domination
15:48 < daja77> lol
15:49 < daja77> a2ps needs gnomeprint, the end is nigh
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15:50 < esden> that is the egg chicken problem ... as it seems
15:51 < daja77> this is the bloat problem i guess
15:51 < DeElsasser> xfree86 needs gnome-print10? I think so
15:51 < netrunner> the chicken was before ... I ate it :)
15:51 < DeElsasser> xfree86 needs gnome-print10? I not think so
15:52 * netrunner getting hungry
15:54 < daja77> netrunner: get owl's pizza
15:57 < hopelessOwl> *har* a frutti-di-mare? nah... but i can recommend you a pizzaservice :p
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16:05 < schrd_> hi
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16:05 < daja77> hi schrd :)
16:06 < schrd> router target builds a bootable cd which installs everything into /dev/ramX?
16:07 < daja77> yes
16:07 < schrd> hmm.
16:07 < schrd> can i put config data into this bootcd?
16:08 * daja77 hasn't tried router yet ...
16:09 < DeElsasser> cu all: ferien vorbei: muss arbeiten...
16:09 < daja77> cu DeElsasser 
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16:16 < schrd> .oO(building kernel with devfs)
16:18 < esden> eight minutes for glibc compile ... nice
16:18 < schrd> wow
16:19 < esden> and 30 seconds for dietlibc
16:19 < netrunner> schrd: don't worry, we've all been through this.
16:19 < schrd> netrunner: i just want to upgrade my router
16:19 < esden> I want this box at home *cry*
16:19 < schrd> currently it is a stripped down debian something between woody and potato
16:20 < netrunner> esden: 1:54 here :)
16:20 < netrunner> esden: I mean glibc
16:20 * schrd 'd be happy if everybody would use my compiler, so i could use distcc ;o)
16:21 < esden> netrunner: what processor do you have once more?
16:21 < esden> schrd: your compiler?
16:21 < schrd> woody gcc (aka gcc 2.95.4 debian)
16:22 < netrunner> esden: I have 2 AMD Athlon(tm) with (real) 2000.097 MHz
16:22 < esden> urg ... yuck
16:22 < schrd> there are hundreds of idle hosts in the university network
16:22 < esden> hmm this here is a p4 2.4 GHz
16:22 < schrd> all at least athlon 800
16:22 < esden> but I do not use tempfs as you do netrunner 
16:22 < esden> but I could try it ...
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16:24 < netrunner> esden: that makes it. without it I se my hdd led shining brighter than the sun :)
16:24 < esden> hmm ... I can not ... it has not enough ram ... only 256MB
16:28 * netrunner considers downgrading the ram of the for sale pc in favour of his server :)
16:29 < schrd> hehe
16:30 < schrd> waiting ages for AFS to compile...
16:30 < netrunner> schrd: oh, what do you do with afs?
16:31 < schrd> our university provides afs service
16:31 < schrd> so i need a client ;-)
16:32 < netrunner> schrd: that is truly a reason
16:32 < schrd> this very useful.
16:33 < schrd> afs kicks ass
16:33 < daja77> hehe so we have found someone who builds openafs packages for rock?
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16:34 < schrd> daja77: forget it ;-)
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16:35 * schrd is glad to have some debian people who provided ready-to-use make-kpkg packages
16:35 < daja77> *hmpf* so i have to do in a free minute
16:36 * schrd will stick to debian for his workstation
16:36 < schrd> rock only for the router
16:37 < daja77> drock isn't that bad ;-)
16:37 < netrunner> daja77: so you build them? 
16:37 < schrd> well, i had some bad experiences with gentoo
16:37 < schrd> so i think source distributions is not the right thing for my workstation
16:38 < daja77> rock is no src distribution!
16:38 < daja77> netrunner: in a free minute ...
16:38 < esden> and rock is _NOT_ gentoo!!!!!
16:38 < daja77> hehe, right
16:38 < schrd> ;-)
16:39 < esden> excuse me for this count of exclamation marks
16:39 < esden> but it is going on my nerves when people compare ROCK to gentoo 
16:39 < schrd> well, i had some strange experiences with upgrades. and i definitely do not want to have a dejavu
16:39 < schrd> i am quite happy with debian on the desktop.
16:40 < schrd> even though it's shipping stale software
16:41 < daja77> esden: you mean compare as in http://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse2.html#x8-70002.2
16:41 < netrunner> argl, how shall I make diffs when I cannot update my trees to the same level? rene seems to be committing a lot currently
16:42 < esden> daja77: erm ... that comparison is ok
16:42 < esden> but schrd is putting rock on the same "level" with gentoo
16:42 < schrd> sorry for comparing. but i don't see a huge difference yet, compared to gentoo.
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16:42 < hopelessOwl> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,263330,00.html
16:42 < esden> and gentoo is only a subset of rock
16:42 < esden> a very small subset
16:42 < esden> o_O ... /me slowly feels like in a #politics channel ... 
16:43 < esden> thanks owl ;)
16:44 < hopelessOwl> esden: why?
16:44 < hopelessOwl> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,263841,00.html
16:48 < daja77> *gna* damn kde killed keyboard repeat
16:49 < esden> daja77: so do not use that crap ;)
16:49 * daja77 kicks esden 
16:49 < esden> daja77: :P
16:50 * daja77 gets used kicking esden 
16:51 < esden> daja77: you are training that too often I think ...
16:51 < daja77> so they get better
16:52 < schrd> *g*
16:52 * hopelessOwl np: vnv nation - futureperfet 09
16:52 * schrd is going down for devfs kernel
16:52 < daja77> vnv nation sounds like a bus company
16:52 < hopelessOwl> muhahahahahahaha. not really
16:53 < hopelessOwl> http://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/jobundberuf/0,1518,263883,00.html
16:53 < daja77> spiegel spam ...
16:53 * daja77 hides
16:54 < esden> daja77: ack ;)
16:54 * hopelessOwl hits daja77 with a spiegel-magazine :p
16:54 * daja77 grabs the magazine and reads it, without paying it
16:54 * -> esden is asking himself who is opening the links owl post's :>
16:54 < holyolli_> http://www.rd350lc.de/spass/Frauen.jpg <-- SCNR ;-)
16:54 -!- holyolli_ is now known as holyolli
16:55 < hopelessOwl> holyolli: *kick*
16:57 < daja77> rofl
16:57 < esden> holyolli: how true ... the comic ;)
16:57 * holyolli is sure that owl even didn't read the text before complaining....
16:58 < daja77> from another planet i knew it
16:58 < hopelessOwl> holyolli: i did... "gruppen-aufs-klo-rennen usw"
16:59 < daja77> reading and understanding is not the same ...
16:59 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick* 
16:59 * daja77 directing that kick to esden 
17:00 < rxr> re
17:00 < hopelessOwl> *har*
17:00 < daja77> wb rxr
17:00 < holyolli> hi rxr
17:01 < esden> re rxr 
17:01 < esden> rxr: slept well?
17:02 * -> esden still reading the comic ... so I do not think that she read it really ...
17:02 < schrd> .oO(booting kde)
17:02 < esden> she only saw the first two lines and that is it ...
17:02 < esden> *headshake*
17:02 < hopelessOwl> nope... 
17:02 < rxr> esden: i'l already up since 11 o'clock ...
17:02 < daja77> esden: she is from another planet, so you never know
17:03 < daja77> but wise enough to stay away from the chan ;-)
17:04 < esden> humm humm ... now I am sure that owl is not from this world
17:05 < hopelessOwl> *har* sure
17:05 < esden> rxr: aha ok
17:05 < hopelessOwl> <-- and is speaking alientisch
17:05 < daja77> O_o
17:05 < esden> hopelessOwl: we know that already
17:06 < esden> hopelessOwl: that is why you are mixing german and english all the time ;)
17:06 * daja77 hits himself with a cluestick
17:06 < esden> daja77: ???
17:06 * -> esden takes the stick from daja ... 
17:06 < esden> be nice daja ... you may hurt you or even someone else with that
17:07 < esden> I will take care of it
17:07 < daja77> hmm thx
17:07 < daja77> >_<
17:07 * -> esden takes the stick and hits daja and owl with it ;)
17:08 < esden> hmm ... ok it works
17:08 * -> esden hides the stick 
17:08 < daja77> and i have trusted you
17:08 < hopelessOwl> esden: argh!
17:08 < esden> it really works ...
17:08 < esden> ok ... I get some food
17:08 * -> esden brb
17:08 * daja77 notes that his nonsense rate increased since esden is here ...
17:09 * hopelessOwl waits for the fscking work to end for today...
17:12 < rxr> hopelessOwl: you could just go home - that would be a quick end ...
17:13 < hopelessOwl> rxr: nah. then i wouldn't have 11 hours... 
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17:39 * schrd is too stupid to build router-target
17:40 < schrd> it just downloads syslinux. nothing else
17:40 < netrunner> rxr: you broke scripts/functions:create_package_db()
17:40 * netrunner tries for hours to update his difference trees to create a patch :(
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17:57 < esden> ok ... I am off 
17:57 < esden> cu l8er
17:57 < holyolli_> cu esden
17:58 < netrunner> cu esden
18:32 < rxr> netrunner: I broke it - but already fixed it. Do you have the HEAD ?
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18:33 < tsa> hi
18:35 < rxr> schrd: works here - are you sure you do this correctly - and e.g. read the Handbook ?
18:35 < schrd> rxr: it now works as well.
18:36 < schrd> just started from scratch.
18:36 < schrd> no idea what was wrong.
18:36 < schrd> but now it seems to have stopped building the kernel.
18:36 < schrd> /storage/cache/schrd/tmp/rock-src-2.0.0-rc1/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 903: /tmp/sh-np-927894588: Interrupted system call
18:37 < rxr> schrd: bash might be too old
18:37 < schrd> this is a ordinary debian stale^Wwoody bash
18:37 < rxr> whare source-tree are you using? A tarball (e.g. 2.0.0-rc1) or subversion:HEAD ?
18:37 < rxr> bash --version
18:37 < schrd> 2.0.0-rc1
18:38 < schrd> 2.05b.0(1)
18:38 < rxr> svn::HEAD has many updates ...
18:38 < schrd> i have no subversion, and it is a pain to build on debian ;-)
18:38 < rxr> hm - bash version seems to be ok - but I only saw this Interrupted system call with broken bash version
18:39 < schrd> well actually the build script still is in shell foreground
18:39 < schrd> should I interrupt it?
18:40 < rxr> nope - when it is still building ...
18:40 < rxr> have you installed a devfs enabled kernel?
18:40 < schrd> there is no CPU load
18:40 < schrd> yes
18:40 < rxr> oh - no CPU load is not a good sign ...
18:41 < schrd> 2.4.21preempt
18:42 < schrd> what should i do?
18:42 < schrd> interrupt an restart?
18:44 < rxr> I would try get into the details why there was some "interrupted systemcall" debug message - and why the build got cancelled ...
18:44 < schrd> how could i help?
18:46 < schrd> would /proc/$pid/cmdline help?
18:46 < rxr> no - reading the logs, tracing commands and so on ...
18:47 < rxr> could you enable XTRACE in the rock linux configuration - and just rebuild - this should give us some information where it stops or stalls ...
18:48 < schrd> complete rebuild?
18:49 < rxr> no wipe - just restart to continue with this package
18:52 < schrd> hmm, now it builds linux24 instead of linux24-src
18:52 < schrd> strange
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18:59 < nisma> names
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19:01 < netrunner> rxr: according to svn log  and svn diff it was your last modification that broke the create_packate_db.
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19:27 < tsa> package/tsa/ctwm/ctwm.conf
19:27 < tsa> hook_add postinstall 3 "register_wm ctwm CTWM /$prefix/bin/ctwmb"
19:27 < tsa> someone please remove that "b" character..
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19:30 < esden> re hi all
19:31 < netrunner> hi esden 
19:35 < Freak> http://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20030901_19.16.05.jpg  ---  muh new theme - howcha like it, huh, huh?
19:40 < daja77> hehe
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20:10 < tcr> moin all
20:10 < tcr> netrunner: ping
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20:22 < rxr> re
20:22 < rxr> tsa: ok - done in some seconds
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20:23 < nisma>  /MSG NickServ HELP
20:24 < rxr> holyolli__: oh you have a qsc DSL line ?
20:24 < tsa> rxr: thanks.
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20:26 < netrunner> tcr: pong
20:28 < nisma> !* on
20:29 < esden> hi nisma 
20:29 < esden> nisma: I have not got your mail ...
20:29 < nisma> hi,
20:29 < esden> or I am blind that is also possible ;)
20:29 < tcr> netrunner: (referring to your `value of -X too large for field of ...' problem:)
20:30 < tcr> netrunner: Can you reproduce those with any pkg?
20:31 < nisma> I have recived some spam or error replies from nerds.rocklinux.org, i send it now again.
20:31 < esden> nisma: you can also send it to esden@esden.net ...
20:31 < netrunner> tcr: I had it with the packages reported, and they fail again if I retry them.
20:32 < tcr> netrunner: Even if you just Build-Pkg them?
20:33 < tcr> netrunner: See, my point is if you easily reproduce those you should try to build it without optimization (or with i386)
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20:35 < esden> here a flamewar question : what is the best console music player?
20:36 * schrd likes mp3blaster although it has some flaws
20:36 < schrd> mpg123 and /bin/bash in doubt
20:37 < esden> thanks schrd 
20:37 < tsa> hm..
20:37 < tsa> looks like "mr makefile" packages the same stuff over and over again..
20:37 < tsa> *sigh*
20:40 < tcr> netrunner: Lost?
20:44 < esden> tsa: ?
20:44 < tsa> esden: joerg schilling.
20:45 < tsa> esden: lots of shared files between cdrtools and an star package i was preparing..
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20:50 < nisma> esden: have your got the email ?
20:52 < netrunner> tcr: I'll do it in a few minutes ... am busy currently.
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20:53 < esden> tsa: ough
20:56 < esden> nisma: I got it ... will take a look on it when I finished messing around with dev version of fluxbox ;-)
20:57 < netrunner> hm ... what license shall I put sw that gives source to download but states nowhere under which license?
20:57 < tcr> nowhere? Not even within the source?
20:58 < tsa> ask author.
20:58 < xnp> Anybody have seen demian ?, i need that funny guy!
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21:00 < tcr> xnp: No, he hasn't been here for decades.
21:00 < tcr> netrunner: Your problem seems to be related to gcc 3.2 and -O2 -march=k6 and -fomit-frame-pointers
21:01 < xnp> tcr where can i find this mister hacker ?
21:01 < daja77> esden: mplayer ;-)
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21:02 < Freak> <daja77> hehe --- more input. please.
21:02 < tcr> xnp: Wait for Mike1, he may be able to tell you more
21:02 < daja77> Freak: nice theme
21:03 < tcr> heyha freak
21:03 < Freak> tcr!
21:03 < Freak> daja77: thankee, I need that these days :)
21:04 < daja77> nice rain today
21:04 < netrunner> tcr: I just looked at my last k6 builds and saw the same messages at the same packages. there it was gcc 3.2.3 too
21:05 < tcr> netrunner: Well, I just took use of g00gl3 ;)
21:06 < netrunner> tcr: maybe I misgoogled, but I didn't find it any compiler related things, only one that said leave out the CFLAGS
21:07 < tcr> You musn't be that specific then! Try 'too large for field'
21:10 < rxr> netrunner: does "-fno-branch-count-reg" help ?
21:11 < rxr> anyway I try this out myself then I have time ...
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21:12 < tcr> Polite he is
21:13 < daja77> jose, 'nuff said
21:13 < netrunner> tcr: just read about it
21:15 < tcr> daja77: No, not for me... What jerk is that?
21:15 < tcr> netrunner: read as in did read?
21:15 < tcr> or do you mean you're just reading it? :)
21:17 < daja77> tcr: jose the guy from cr, that Mike can't stand
21:17 < netrunner> tcr: well, since I am not analphabetic I can read faster than 1 line per hour :)
21:17 < daja77> huh, really?
21:17 * daja77 hides
21:20 < netrunner> anybody has packages for djb software?
21:21 < tcr> IIRC, the license doesn't allow redistribution... I may err though
21:25 < rxr> netrunner: there where some patches to add it on the list - IIRC - but not applied deu to the license ...
21:28 < esden> mr hacker ... ROFL
21:29 < esden> that sounds really funny
21:30 < rxr> Whoho: 10.99% (Rank 14)
21:30 < rxr> ROCK Liinux vitality on freshmeat ,)
21:31 < rxr> with -rc2 this week and -rc3 next week I guess it will do some jups ;-)
21:31 < esden> rxr: for sure
21:33 < jsaw> re
21:33 < jsaw> hello
21:34 < daja77> d'oh i am really late with my isos
21:35 < tcr> rxr: I can only read out of it that either the release schedule of most projects simple sucks or that they don't care for regularly updating it except for milestone versions
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21:41 < tcr> bwinf as in BundesWettbewerk für Informatik?
21:42 < netrunner> tcr: aeh ... if you talked to me between 21:23 and now, could you repeat it? (I home my success report came through)
21:44 < netrunner> can I put a var_append configprefix " " 'CFLAGS="-fno-branch-count-reg"' into the .conf to test?
21:44 < netrunner> tcr: I put the mentioned line into the .conf of lame and it builds in stage 9.
21:47 < tcr> what line?
21:47 < tcr> -fno-branch-count-req was rxr's idea
21:48 < tcr> reg even
21:50 < netrunner> oh, completely overread him, :) damn 3 letter nicks
21:56 < tcr> Not damn! Only nicks <= 4 letters rule :P
21:57 -!- netrunner is now known as net
21:57 < jsaw> nick js
21:57 -!- jsaw is now known as js
21:57 < daja77> net without runner, ts
21:57 < net> tcr: wl, only wrds <= 4 letr too.
21:57 -!- net is now known as nt
21:57 -!- nt is now known as netrunner
21:57 -!- js is now known as jsaw
21:57 < netrunner> baeh, nt :(
21:58 * daja77 points and laughs at netrunner 
21:58 * netrunner cleans his irclog by 1 line
21:58 < netrunner> daja77: hey, I am already place 29 in the ircstats :)
21:58 < tcr> you talk too much!
21:58 < daja77> hehe dunno what's my status
21:59 < tcr> Dummschwaller #1 :P
21:59 < daja77> tcr: we all do
21:59 < daja77> no this is esden
22:00 < netrunner> daja77: place 7
22:00 < netrunner> well esden has 6000 lines more than anybody else, he seems to be talking to himself a lot :)
22:00 * daja77 talks too much
22:00 < tcr> jsaw: I assume you send those patches to mainstream?
22:00 < daja77> netrunner: yes...yes he does
22:01 < tcr> daja77: Definitvely! Just swallow and keep your mouth shut, damn bitch!
22:01 < daja77> tcr: i have always some words for you :P
22:01 < jsaw> tcr: mainstream? you mean to the orig authors? no not yet, currently at it.
22:02 < Freak> there are chanstats for #rock? where?
22:02 < daja77> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/esden/ircstat/
22:02 < Freak> I guess I knew that before... I forgot anyways :)
22:02 < Freak> tnx Da
22:02 < Freak> daja77
22:02 < daja77> haha Freak is too drunk to use tab
22:03 < Freak> right.
22:03 < Freak> as uschwal
22:03 < tcr> jsaw: I wonder that freetype1.diff works
22:04 < Freak> weee I'm only sixteenth?!
22:04 < tcr> Freak: conclusion: You suck
22:06 < Freak> yea but mine's bigger.
22:06 < jsaw> tcr: why not? don't forget macro expansion. Let's put it as a layman: [.] is a (functional) delimiter. ## removes this status.
22:07 < tcr> jsaw: No, I'm talking about the effects of your change
22:07 < tcr> #define macro(bar) (foo.bar)
22:07 < jsaw> tcr: and what's the problem with it?
22:07 < tcr> I wonder that bar in foo.bar gets replacee
22:07 < tcr> replaced
22:08 < tcr> mom let me test it
22:08 < jsaw> yes, every token in a macro is replaced (and . servers here as a delimiter, so that field is recognized)
22:08 < jsaw> s/servers/serves/
22:08 < tcr> Ah, thought that, wasn't sure though
22:09 < jsaw> it wasn't. indeed. 
22:09 < jsaw> But, I tested all compilers with a small test program.
22:09 < tcr> it wasn't what?
22:10 < jsaw> ... wait resetting brain...
22:10 < jsaw> I wanted to say: "I wasn't sure also, but [next line]"
22:13 < tcr> netrunner: still there?
22:14 < netrunner> tcr: yes, some seconds :)
22:14 < netrunner> gf just found a video on my server ... it is named "partnermassage.mpg" ... now she calls for me to llearn from the video :/
22:16 < tcr> should I wait some second or do you have some second?
22:16 < tcr> second_s_ silly me
22:16 < netrunner> tcr: :) well, I guess I'll be back in an hour latest .)
22:17 < tcr> could have some seconds for me please _now_ ?
22:17 < tcr> How exactly did you solve the optimization issue?
22:19 < tcr> jsaw: Well, I'd have used a wrapper: 
22:20 < tcr> #define X_macro(_tmp, foo) (_tmp##foo)
22:20 < tcr> #define macro(foo) (X_macro(blah., foo))
22:21 < tcr> Anyway, you're right with the tokenizing
22:22 < jsaw> ..and, the patch is the shortest possible...
22:22 < Freak> esden, may I see your gruftistats-conf-file?
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23:04 < nisma> \whois nisma
23:04 < nisma> \whois nisma
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23:05 < netrunner> tcr: if you read what I say to you, I put var_append configprefix " " 'CFLAGS="-fno-branch-count-reg"' into the lame.conf
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23:07 < tcr> netrunner: yeah figured that out ;) see mail
23:08 < tcr> Anyway I'm going sleeping. Gn8 all
23:08 < netrunner> n8 tcr
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23:24 < rxr> netrunner: I replied on the ML ...
23:24 < tsa> hm...i see a problem here
23:25 < tsa> rxr: awake?
23:26 < netrunner> rxr: yes, I read :) don't like comments?
23:29 < rxr> netrunner: why should I not liek comments ?
23:29 < rxr> tsa: yes
23:29 < tsa> ah, ok.
23:29 < tsa> in stage 5, syslinux fails for me because it needs nasm
23:30 < rxr> tsa: ok - I'll fix it
23:30 < tsa> please make nasm "125.000" and both packages build ok.
23:30 < esden> Freak: ping
23:30 < esden> re sbtw
23:31 < Freak> esden: pong
23:32 < rxr> tsa: I would move syslinux back
23:32 < netrunner> rxr: my optimization issue comes from gcc. it is woraroundable by adding -fno-branch-count-reg as you suggested. you might know a clean way to do it, since I simply put it into the .conf
23:32 < esden> Freak: yes you can see it ... 
23:32 < esden> one moment
23:32 < rxr> tsa: maybe nasm has other depencencies not fullfilled at this early point ... ?
23:32 < Freak> esden: great
23:32 < tsa> rxr: no.
23:32 < jsaw> rxr: got some time now?
23:32 < Freak> rxr: how's things with the ppc build?
23:33 < rxr> netrunner: I now that it is a workarround ...
23:33 < rxr> I could put it into the k6 optimization setting until it is fixed - so not in every package ...
23:33 < schrd> grmpf, building gcc takes _ages_
23:33 < tsa> rxr: with syslinux at "126.300" and nasm at "125.000" both packages build fine for me.
23:33 < rxr> jsaw: hm - better later - are you awake the wohle night?
23:34 < esden> Freak: http://www.esden.net/rocklinux/gruft-rocklinux.conf
23:34 < jsaw> rxr: :-) _most_ probably
23:34 < tsa> anyway, moving syslinux back a little bit should be safe, too.
23:35 < rxr> tsa: committed
23:35 < tsa> ok.
23:35 < tsa> no pkg failures so far, btw.
23:35 < tsa> (p3-optimised, but with several packages disabled)
23:36 < snyke> esden!
23:36 < snyke> *hugs*
23:38 < tsa> whoa! xmms is still alive.
23:38 < tsa> 1.2.8-pre1
23:38 < rxr> netrunner: committed - could you test it out ?
23:40 < rxr> tsa: maybe we update so we could get rid of the external alsa plugin ... ;-)
23:40 < tsa>  ALSA:
23:40 < tsa> * New output plugin.
23:41 < tsa> rxr: no - better stay with 1.2.7 until a stable version is released.
23:41 < tsa> bugs.xmms.org has entries like "segfault on startup" for 1.2.8-pre1
23:42 < tsa> BTW.
23:43 < tsa> did you fix the xfree bug?
23:43 < tsa> (xfs buffer overflow)
23:45 < rxr> netrunner: still alive?
23:45 < netrunner> rxr: yes, just found out that webmin has a broken standard conf
23:46 < rxr> tsa: erhm - which xfs buffer overflow bug? Should I be aware of it ?
23:46 < netrunner> rxr: in /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf root=/R.build/server-blablabla
23:46 < rxr> netrunner: should in on-the-fly fix it - or do you want a patch
23:47 < tsa> rxr: 
23:48 < tsa> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/dab-01.09.03-000/
23:48 < netrunner> rxr: for webmin? feel free to do it :)
23:48 < netrunner> rxr: have you changed something ... the config name does not get prepended to the buildid any more, i mean to build/<name>
23:49 < esden> snyke: ???
23:50 < rxr> netrunner: could you retest webmin now ...
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23:50 < rxr> netrunner: config name prepended - hae no I did not changed this  (I think)
23:51 < snyke> esden: was just a "hi"
23:51 < rxr> cool: SiS driver: Add RENDER hardware acceleration
23:52 < esden> then hi snyke ;)
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23:58 < netrunner> obviously the applied daemontools patch I just wanted to have a look at freaked the build scripts :)
23:59 < tsa> hehe
23:59 < Freak> ah, esden, thankee!
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