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--- Log opened Wed Sep 03 00:02:55 2003 00:06 < rxr> re daja77 00:07 * rxr getting s.th. to eat ... 00:08 < rxr> cu 00:08 < daja77> happy meal 00:11 -!- safedin [~safedin@nic-29-c98-17.twmi.rr.com] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:13 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95306F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:36 -!- nisma [~root@host152-115.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has quit () 00:39 < tsa> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch bsd-games-2.14 | patch -p0 00:47 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D74E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:47 < fake> gevenin' 00:47 * daja77 waves in fake's direction 00:53 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506985.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:56 < rxr> re 00:57 < daja77> rxr: quick poll, uploading rc1 images tomorrow, or building rc2 images instead 01:00 < rxr> daja77: rc1 images - rc2 is some days away ... 01:00 < daja77> ok 01:02 < daja77> sorry for the delay 01:02 < rxr> Maybe we should confuse the world less - and save some bandhwidth and provide desktop and minimal + a server target when one is ready 01:03 < daja77> maybe we should call it desktop, this is confusing some people 01:03 < rxr> tsa: all performed 01:03 < daja77> thinking it is suse or so 01:03 < rxr> we already call it desktop ... 01:04 < daja77> hmm 01:04 < tsa> rxr: thx. 01:04 * daja77 played with a suse for someone today ... 01:05 < tsa> wrong date in changelog, btw ;) 01:05 < rxr> tsa: oh - will fix it with the next commit 01:10 < tsa> ok 01:10 < tsa> Note that icecast 1 is deprecated and unsupported, and may possibly induce nausea in small children, hair loss in men, and estrogen fluctuations in women. 01:10 < tsa> lol 01:12 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95306F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:27 < daja77> *argl* linux magazin only mentioning the debian booth in their linuxtag review 01:30 < rxr> daja77: hey - debian is the only project that was on this strange Debian Tag in Karlsruhe ... 01:31 < daja77> oh yeah forgot that ... 01:32 < fake> was there any other distro? 01:32 < fake> didn't notice any... 01:32 < fake> ;) 01:32 * daja77 now burning rock cd set 01:33 < daja77> fake: there was only debian, ueberdistro 01:33 < daja77> :) 01:33 < rxr> yes I also only noticed rock ... 01:33 < rxr> so with the fix I applied X starts again ... 01:34 < daja77> you did what? you "ketzer" 01:34 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 01:34 < daja77> hey A-Tui :) 01:35 < daja77> rxr: hehe /me noticed gentoo, having to share a booth with xine ... 01:45 < A-Tui> hola daja77 01:46 < tsa> n8 01:46 < mnemoc> re 01:46 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E11E5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 01:47 < mnemoc> rxr: ping 01:47 < rxr> pong 01:47 < esden> re hi all 01:47 < esden> fscking dfn 01:48 < esden> they are playing all the time around 01:49 < mnemoc> what did you decide about boehm's patch? by default it doesn't affect any other package 01:50 < mnemoc> i have to rediff the gcc3-use_system_gc.diff but everything else is well tested 01:50 < mnemoc> if you prefer you can comment java related line in config.in file 01:50 < mnemoc> until i finish testing it with gcc3 01:51 < rxr> the only thing I aksed is: You wrote that documentation is disabled - for all gcc packgaes or so? 01:51 < mnemoc> i answered that :) 01:51 < mnemoc> i disable doc in boehm-gc 01:51 < mnemoc> not in gcc... 01:52 < daja77> mnemoc: are we friends now :) 01:52 < rxr> ah ok - then I'll apply but today's mornign 01:52 < mnemoc> let me ask fm :) 01:52 < rxr> I wannt to find the bed earlier tonight ... 01:53 * daja77 too 01:53 < daja77> a friend of mine defends his diploma at 9 01:53 < esden> rxr: you asked about the driver patches for XFree ... I would say not to add them ... 01:53 < mnemoc> daja77: yes we are friends :) 01:54 < daja77> hehe 01:54 < esden> we always say that we add only patches that are really needed ... and these driver updates are not really needed and make XFree not the standard released one 01:54 < esden> rxr: you know what I mean? 01:55 < mnemoc> rxr: great... should i send you the rediff against gcc3-use_system_gc.diff already sent or a new one? 01:55 < esden> I could not answer earlier because of the crashed connection >_< 01:55 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-185.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:56 < esden> daja77: you have got mail at fm ;) 01:56 < rxr> mnemoc: please send an incremental one - which I can just apply when the first one got applied. 01:56 < rxr> esden: I already decided not to apply them ... 01:57 < mnemoc> ok :) ... try to sleep tonight ;) 01:57 < rxr> but thanks for the suggestion ... 01:57 < esden> rxr: you asked so I answer ... 01:57 < esden> de nada 01:58 < daja77> esden: :) 02:03 < daja77> ok cd set ready 02:03 < esden> *sigh* I really would like to submit my dietlibc patches but I still wait for bootdisc target to finish compile ... >_< 02:03 < esden> I really need a faster box ... 02:04 < daja77> we all need a faster box i guess 02:05 < mnemoc> mike don't 02:06 < daja77> hm? 02:06 < daja77> O_o ruddur is logged in .. 02:06 < mnemoc> mike don't need a faster box... he has a 4xXeon blah blah blah 02:07 < daja77> .oO i feel the power of envy 02:07 < mnemoc> does 'owr' mutt supports Maildirs? 02:09 < daja77> bed time 02:09 < daja77> cu tomorrow 02:12 < mnemoc> sleep well daja friend :) 02:35 < rxr> n8 all 02:39 < esden> n8 rxr 02:44 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:11 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-185.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 03:15 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.146.155.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:52 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M304P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:52 < mnemoc> hi n00kie 03:57 < esden> weeee I got XV running on my laptop !!! 03:57 < esden> *jumparound* 03:57 < mnemoc> congrats 04:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M311P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:13 < esden> I really start to hate that lots of good drivers are not included by default in packages like XFree and linux kernel 04:13 < mnemoc> can rockplug be extended to xf86? 04:14 < esden> o_O 04:14 < esden> what do you mean? 04:15 < mnemoc> would be nice to get xf86 exactly configurated to use the right driver :) 04:15 < mnemoc> or you mean drivers only available as patches? 04:16 < esden> no ... we have to take care that all that external drivers are included in rocklinux 04:16 < esden> ok I am adding ati.2 driver addition to my TODO 04:16 < mnemoc> :) 04:17 < esden> wlan_ng is also waiting for inclusion ... *sigh* 04:18 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:21 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 05:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:02 < jsaw> re 05:02 < jsaw> mnemoc: ping 05:03 < mnemoc> pong 05:03 < jsaw> hello 05:04 < mnemoc> hullo 05:04 < jsaw> Do IIRC, that your also doing a gcc33 build? 05:05 < mnemoc> yes but i'm quite slow 05:05 < mnemoc> gcc33+boehm+stackprotector 05:05 < mnemoc> and i had some problems with boehm 05:06 < mnemoc> i just re-restart my build 05:06 < jsaw> I'll be extremely busy the next days, so I might not be able to check my patches that are still lying around until the end of next week... 05:06 < jsaw> shall I send you the rest of the untested? 05:06 < mnemoc> sure 05:06 < mnemoc> mail the to amery@bsp.cl 05:08 < jsaw> okay. 05:09 < jsaw> btw, stack protector. 05:10 < jsaw> One of the libs, that didn't compile due to stack-protector was pam. There I could solve the problem by exchanging the direct call to ld to gcc in the linking stage. 05:11 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D74E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:12 < mnemoc> good trick :) 05:12 < jsaw> Maybe you find out, what options gcc passes to ld... 05:12 < jsaw> (I gave up on doing this with xfree...) 05:12 < esden> re jsaw 05:13 < jsaw> horrible config, ya know... 05:13 < jsaw> hi esden 05:13 < mnemoc> can you add that to the mail? 05:13 < jsaw> what? 05:13 < jsaw> the pam thing is already in the trunk 05:14 < jsaw> pic-and-linker.patch 05:16 < mnemoc> ok 05:16 < esden> argh ... can somebody send my a board+processor+ram that is faster then what I have? ... a simple bootdisc build takes ages ... >_< 05:18 < jsaw> another point here is, those programs, that do linking with ld directly leave traces of symbols in libs. But no lib should have symbols with the default build. 05:20 * jsaw also wants a faster computer, maybe a cluster with 1024 nodes or so? Well 512 would actually be enough. (Opteron,G5,whatever) 05:28 < esden> I would be happy to have a single processor Athlon XP 2GHz or so 05:28 < esden> that would be a nice improovement 05:33 < mnemoc> i need a faster HD :( 05:34 < jsaw> Actually, I don't need anything faster. But more stable hw would be nice... 05:35 < jsaw> (which means, no IBM disks, no nvidia card, better cooling etc etc) 05:43 < esden> I can not complain abaut stability here ... 05:48 < esden> ahh ... nice glibc is now installing ... 05:48 < esden> so it goes slowly forward 06:06 < jsaw> okay guys, I'm damned tired, cu l8r. 06:08 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:21 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D669.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:12 -!- scoopex [~marc@td909193a.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:27 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.8.93.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:40 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:40 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 08:00 -!- Demian [~demian@163.178.136.230] has joined #rocklinux 08:01 < Demian> hi 08:02 -!- Demian [~demian@163.178.136.230] has left #rocklinux () 08:10 < esden> that will be interesting ... updating my laptop from beta4 to rc1 with selecting new packages in stone ... 08:56 < n00kie_> https://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/25/1910248.shtml?tid=16 08:56 < n00kie_> ^- :) 09:00 < esden> hmm ... if he gets elected who will maintain the kernel??? 09:03 < esden> if he applys for governor I apply for linux kernel maintainer ;) 09:03 < esden> what do you think n00kie_ ? 09:06 -!- scoopex [~marc@td909193a.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:08 < n00kie_> esden: Would be cool. :) 09:08 < n00kie_> Would make us much more popular 09:10 < n00kie_> After you maintain it 09:10 < n00kie_> The kernel wouldn't work :P 09:12 < n00kie_> Just kidding :) 09:13 * n00kie_ hopes that esden doesn't hates him now 09:15 < n00kie_> https://hackles.org/strips/cartoon328.png 09:33 < esden> n00kie_: sure I hate you now ;) 09:33 < esden> but it would make rock much more popular 09:33 < esden> but I do not really want that ... 09:34 < esden> then we have all kind of gentoo style users here ... and that is not nice 09:38 -!- heLL_b0y [Evolution@219.95.186.125] has joined #rocklinux 09:39 < heLL_b0y> can rocklinux run server? 09:39 < esden> why not? o_O 09:39 < esden> a hello would be nice sbtw heLL_b0y ;) 09:39 < heLL_b0y> helo! 09:39 < esden> hi heLL_b0y 09:39 < heLL_b0y> sorry for that :D 09:39 < heLL_b0y> :) 09:39 < heLL_b0y> hi esden 09:40 < heLL_b0y> can rocklinux run server? 09:40 < esden> sure rock can be run on a server ... 09:40 < heLL_b0y> icic 09:40 < heLL_b0y> i mean irc server or web server? 09:40 < heLL_b0y> can ? 09:41 < esden> yes 09:41 < heLL_b0y> ic 09:41 < heLL_b0y> any linux also can run it ? 09:43 < esden> what do you mean with that? I do not really understand... 09:43 < esden> run what? 09:43 < heLL_b0y> i mean any linux can run those serveR? 09:44 < esden> yes on nearly any linux installation you can run a irc or web server 09:44 < esden> if the size of the disc is allowing that and the box has a NIC 09:45 < heLL_b0y> oic 09:45 < heLL_b0y> :D 09:45 < heLL_b0y> thanks ur help .. 09:46 < heLL_b0y> i trying using rock linux 09:46 < esden> have fun 09:46 < heLL_b0y> :) 09:46 < heLL_b0y> thanks 09:49 < esden> you are from malaysia? 09:50 < heLL_b0y> how u noe 09:51 < esden> I searched the owner of your ip address 09:51 -!- heLL_b0y [Evolution@219.95.186.125] has left #rocklinux () 09:51 < esden> ;) 09:51 < esden> humm 09:51 < esden> I scared him ;) 11:05 -!- Thiekal_DragonHa [sysopt@69-144-112-157.client.bresnan.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:05 -!- Thiekal_DragonHa [sysopt@69-144-112-157.client.bresnan.net] has quit () 11:27 < daja77> moin 11:28 < esden> moin daja77 11:28 < daja77> moin esden :) 11:29 < daja77> that malaysian guy was strange :) 11:30 < esden> hehe yes he was strange ;) 11:31 < daja77> *lol* new spam in my inbox: Get Larger Lips 11:31 < esden> ROFL!!! 11:33 < daja77> :) 11:35 < esden> the question is what lips ;) 11:35 < esden> humm ... that was nasty ;) 11:35 < daja77> the mail is from: females journal ... 11:36 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-009.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:38 < owl> moin 11:39 < daja77> huhu owl 11:40 < owl> hi daja77 ;) 11:40 < daja77> owl: want bigger lips 11:40 < owl> hoeh? 11:44 < esden> hi owl 11:44 < esden> you for sure want bigger lips ... don't you? 11:46 < owl> hoeh? 11:47 < esden> lol ... you already have big lips ... you can not talk as it seems ... ROFL ;) 11:48 < daja77> owl: /me got spam mails promising me i could get larger lips, should I forward 11:48 < owl> nah, thx 11:50 * owl kicks and greets esden , btw 11:52 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:53 < esden> re n00kie 11:57 < daja77> n00kie muted today 12:02 < esden> hmm ... that goes slowly ... now I have the 4th dietlibc related patch chunk 12:03 < esden> and still in stage 1 ... 12:03 < daja77> lemme guess, you need a faster box ... 12:03 < esden> daja77: good guess ;) 12:03 < daja77> ;) 12:05 * daja77 now off to work 12:05 < daja77> cu 12:05 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M304P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:06 < esden> cu daja77 12:07 < ruddur> hi, all 12:08 < ruddur> it's not possible to mount / in xfs in istallation 12:08 < ruddur> normal or not 12:08 < ruddur> in 2.0.0rc1 12:09 < esden> hi ruddur 12:09 < n00kie> esden | then we have all kind of gentoo style users here ... and that is not nice <- Sure, I really don't want that :-) 12:09 < n00kie> re esden, daja77 :) 12:10 < n00kie> ah, bye daja77 12:18 < ruddur> what's the best ip for a network install of rocklinux 12:19 < esden> ahh good 2nd stage reached 12:19 < esden> ruddur: depends on your network layout you are installing in ... 12:20 < ruddur> i would test this install option 12:20 < ruddur> i have the cd's but 12:20 < ruddur> for fun 12:21 < ruddur> i have enter base url in the install 12:24 < esden> 6 patch chunks ... the amount is growing and growing 12:24 < esden> now comes the nasty gcc3.conf patch ... 12:28 < rxr> n00kie: I like more users more then discussing where to dring beer and the other private problems in ingolstadt ... 12:28 < rxr> at leat this is #rocklinux not #beer@ingolstadt 12:36 < esden> rxr: Are you in bad mood or so? 12:38 < rxr> no I just do not like this "new or beginner users are ugly" mood we have in this channel since a few months now already 12:38 < rxr> I'm perfectly happy otherwise - thanks 12:40 < esden> rxr: that is not about new users ... that is about going on my nerves users ... 12:40 < rxr> if people do not want to see new users - just go to a #rocklinux-devel or so channel 12:40 < esden> ok ok ... 12:41 < rxr> esden: maybe you also got to someones nerves years aog? :-) 12:45 < esden> yes one single time in #linux or so asking a question for which I have not found a solution searching the net for one week two times instead giving up after questioning once and not getting even from one person "sorry I have no idea" ... after I asked twice someone attacked me that I should not ask multiple times because if I do not get an answer then nobody knows an answer ... after that I never did it again 12:55 < esden> and yes I want more users of rock ... that is not that ... 12:56 < esden> but I would like that they are not "stupid" ... but one can not controle that ... I know 12:56 < esden> the future will show 13:01 < rxr> stuipd user can we educated to be less stupid ... 13:01 < rxr> and when eveyone rant here each new user then we will also loose nre technically skilled users 13:01 < esden> who is ranting any user here? 13:04 < esden> I have never thrown a user away ... or said somthing ala fefe "go dying, somewhere else" ... 13:04 < esden> so do not start to panic please 13:05 < ruddur> oh yes 13:05 < esden> I have also not seen anyone do so 13:05 < esden> ruddur: ? 13:05 < ruddur> no joke 13:06 < esden> o_O ... *shocked* ... 13:06 < ruddur> xfs is not integred in kernel 13:06 < esden> ruddur: please do not scare me that hard please ;) 13:07 < ruddur> my english is very little 13:07 < ruddur> it's possible i have little error syntax 13:07 < esden> ruddur: it's ok 13:08 < ruddur> thanks 13:08 < esden> we will try to use the best error correction we have ;) 13:08 < ruddur> ok 13:08 < ruddur> i go to eat 13:08 < esden> humm ... now I have to stop me writing a very nasty comment ... :D 13:09 < esden> have fun ruddur 13:09 < ruddur> see you later 13:09 < ruddur> thanks 13:12 < esden> hmm ... gcc3 c++ seems to be fixable ... but I will postpone that for later 13:23 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-009.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:08 < daja77> re 14:08 < mnemoc> re 14:09 < daja77> hey mnemoc 14:09 < esden> wb mnemoc 14:09 < mnemoc> hi daja77,esden 14:12 < esden> wb daja77 14:13 < daja77> thx esden 14:13 * daja77 now killing cvs at work 14:16 < mnemoc> what will u use as replacement? 14:17 < daja77> subversion 14:19 < daja77> and yes I want a central repository in this environment 14:19 < mnemoc> :) 14:21 < mnemoc> i find svn quite unstable but that's just an opinion :) ... it's much better than cvs, so good luck ;-) 14:21 < daja77> thx 14:21 < mnemoc> tortoisesvn is a nice client for win32 14:25 -!- spectre|zZZZ [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:26 < spectre|zZZZ> re 14:26 -!- spectre|zZZZ is now known as _spectre 14:27 < daja77> guess i will start with 0.28.2 :) 14:44 < esden> hehehehe ... I fixed util-linux without patching tons of headers into dietlibc include directory ;) 14:44 * -> esden happy 14:45 < daja77> how? 14:46 < esden> I played a bit with cmd_wrapper and -I gcc option ;) 14:46 < daja77> :) 14:47 < esden> I had that idea in sleep yesterday night ;) 14:47 < daja77> in sleep or in bath tube, both are inspiring 14:49 < esden> full ack 14:50 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4D573.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:55 < rolla> yawn 14:56 < esden> morning rxr 14:56 < esden> argh 14:56 < esden> morning rolla 14:56 < daja77> hi rolla 14:56 < rolla> morning 14:56 < daja77> esden: we should hack irssi tab completion at 20c3 14:56 < rolla> why? 14:56 < daja77> cos it sucks 14:57 < rolla> ? 14:57 < esden> daja77: YES WE HAVE TO! 14:57 < rolla> I love tab completion 14:58 < daja77> rolla: we all love tab completion but irssi tab completion is borken 14:59 < rolla> ? how so 15:00 < daja77> the wrong nick is expanded often 15:00 < rolla> what version do you have ? 15:00 < daja77> 0.8.6 15:00 < rolla> cause I never have that problem 15:00 >>> [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] requested CTCP VERSION from #rocklinux: 15:00 < daja77> ahem *cough* 15:01 < rolla> odd same as me 15:01 < rolla> brb 15:01 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 15:01 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 15:01 -!- rolla_ [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 15:01 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 < daja77> oh my ... what the hell is he doin 15:02 < jsaw> re 15:02 < jsaw> hi all 15:02 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:02 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 15:03 < daja77> wb rolla 15:03 < rolla> thanks 15:03 < rolla> had to take ccare of my clones 15:03 < daja77> :) 15:03 < rolla> today is a great day 15:03 < daja77> why? 15:04 < rolla> Johnny depp says he refuses to come back to america until poltical climate changes 15:04 * rolla is so happy 15:04 < daja77> lol 15:04 < rolla> says he loves france 15:04 < daja77> yeah 15:04 < rolla> my feelings he should stay there 15:05 < rolla> He is an awful actor anyway 15:05 < rolla> I am just waiting for alec baldwin to leave now 15:05 < daja77> hmm there was one movie i liked ... 15:05 < daja77> hehehe 15:06 < rolla> daja77: there is no movie of his that is good unless he dies in the first 5 mintues of it 15:06 < daja77> nah 15:06 < rolla> without speaking 15:06 < daja77> hehe only knows the german voice, anyway 15:06 < daja77> -s 15:07 < rolla> well it is not his 15:07 < daja77> yepp 15:11 < rolla> daja77: is all well with apache now? 15:11 < ruddur> little question 15:11 < daja77> yes, I am about installing subversion now 15:11 < rolla> cool 15:11 < rolla> what is your question ruddur ? 15:11 < ruddur> what's microcode script 15:11 < esden> ruddur: test 15:11 < esden> uhmm 15:11 < esden> humm 15:11 < ruddur> important 15:12 < esden> sorry raddur I had to test ... 15:13 < rolla> esden: what ever happened to th? 15:13 < daja77> rolla: he was here some days ago 15:14 < rolla> I have no seen him in some time 15:14 < daja77> guess you were not here at that time 15:14 < rolla> nope :( 15:18 < esden> daja77: that may help us https://irssi.org/scripts/scripts/niq.pl 15:18 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-14-94.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 15:19 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-14-94.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Client Quit) 15:19 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-14-94.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 15:20 < DeElsasser> hi all 15:20 < esden> hi DeElsasser 15:22 < DeElsasser> hi esden 15:22 < daja77> moin DeElsasser 15:22 < DeElsasser> moin moin daja77 15:23 < daja77> esden: cool :) 15:35 < mnemoc> Can't locate auto/Irssi/statusbar_i.al in @INC (@INC contains: 15:35 < mnemoc> :( 15:35 < mnemoc> where does that come from? 15:36 < daja77> hahaha now i know why subversion compiles so fast, cos compile is aborted by an error 15:37 < mnemoc> hahaha 15:37 < daja77> :) 15:45 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-14-94.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:47 < esden> 13 patch chunks for dietlibc stuff ... nice 15:49 < esden> rxr will be happy about that patch flood ... I really would not like to be in his place ... 15:50 < daja77> esden: enjoy your last hours on this planet :) 15:50 < esden> I do ... hacking on dietlibc stuff 15:51 < esden> the terrible thing is: I do very intensive testing of what I change ... but I still have the feeling that some bug may slip through my fingers ... I REALLY hate that 15:52 * daja77 gives a cookie to esden 15:52 < esden> thanks daja77 15:53 < mnemoc> esden needs a massage 15:53 < daja77> hehe that's your job :P 15:53 < mnemoc> o_O 15:55 < esden> ohh yes I really need a massage ... 15:56 < mnemoc> from reg... or from me? ;) 15:56 < daja77> mnemoc: from you 15:56 * daja77 hides 15:56 < mnemoc> :( 15:56 < mnemoc> i shall run away.... bye 15:57 < daja77> stay! 15:57 < esden> mnemoc: you may guess ;) 15:57 < mnemoc> =) 16:04 * daja77 wants a massage too 16:43 * daja77 uploading rc1 generic isos 16:43 < daja77> brb 17:16 < daja77> re 17:24 < esden> ok ... enough patching for the last 24 hours ... 17:24 < esden> now I watch a film ... and go to bed after that ... 17:24 < esden> cu all 17:25 < daja77> cu esden 17:25 < daja77> have fun 17:25 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:26 < jsaw> cu l8r 17:26 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:26 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 17:26 < Ge0rG> hiho# 17:28 < daja77> Ge0rG: hehe guess you have to bring Alita to the Linuxtag in Chemnitz next year ;) 17:30 < Ge0rG> daja77: she is the one with the car ;) 17:31 < daja77> oh so she has to bring you :) 17:31 < daja77> hmm have to talk about that with her ... 17:48 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802E31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:48 < netrunner> re 17:48 < daja77> wb netrunner 17:48 < daja77> *argl* why must that cvs2svn script be in python 18:00 < mnemoc> python sucks 18:01 < daja77> knew that already ... 18:02 < mnemoc> why they invent such thing having perl? 18:03 < daja77> python was invented as a teaching language, why ppl started using it for real stuff i don't know 18:04 < mnemoc> why not haskell? or even prolog :) 18:04 < netrunner> daja77: same with ocaml :) 18:04 < daja77> you want a haskell program for converting cvs 2 svn, you are bizarre 18:06 < mnemoc> i should add haskell to my bizarre repo :) 18:06 < daja77> yeah 18:06 < daja77> hugs ... 18:19 < ruddur> in console where is the default color file location : the prompt is red beurk 18:21 -!- nisma [~nisma@host3-28.pool21345.interbusiness.it] has joined #rocklinux 18:21 < dennis> ruddur: search a bit in /etc 18:22 < ruddur> oh yes 18:28 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E79858.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:29 < martin_> hello 18:33 < dennis> hi martin_ 18:33 < martin_> hi dennis 18:44 < dennis> https://www.tshirthell.com <-- best shirts i've ever seen ;-) 18:58 < daja77> d'oh python script dies while converting *arrgl* 19:03 * daja77 goin home now cu 19:15 < netrunner> hm ... shall I do the step, shutdown my server and plug the new hd with rock in? 19:16 < netrunner> cowards! good night. 19:16 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802E31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("leaving") 19:53 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M275P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:59 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9E39A92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:05 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9E39A92.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 20:18 < daja77> re 20:20 < dennis> wb daja77 20:21 < daja77> thx 20:23 < martin_> rxr: is the OSD modul v0.2 ready? 20:25 -!- Marti [~mafa@195.202.133.48] has joined #rocklinux 20:26 < Marti> hi all, i need some help with my webserver, i installed apache webserver, also the test site is ok, but only the test site, i uploaded some stats, but cant see them 20:27 < Marti> chmod is set 20:28 < SMP> what does the error_log say? 20:28 < Marti> where can i find it :-/ i am new to linux, its my first time , but when i start the webserver, no error comes 20:28 < Marti> https://195.202.133.48 20:29 < Marti> this is the test site 20:29 < Marti> it works 20:30 < Marti> i created a folder for juni stats, but when i want to go to https://195.202.133.48/juni it doent work :( 20:30 < Marti> there is also no you dont have permission to access this ite or something like this, only page not found :-/ 20:30 < martin_> is there a 404 or 403 error message in your browser? 20:32 < Marti> no error 20:32 < Marti> ie exploere 20:32 < Marti> :-/ 20:33 < martin_> but there must be a message? "page not found" or like this? 20:33 < Marti> the site is not avaliable atm :( 20:34 < Marti> technical probs,.. and this kinfd of message, i should check my i net config .... 20:34 < Marti> but no error, like normal, when a page isnt found 20:37 < SMP> please ask in a SuSE forum or channel. this is off-topic here and we don't even know SuSE. 20:38 < Marti> k ;) thx anyway for your help 20:57 * martin_ is away ... 20:57 * martin_ is away: I'm busy 21:12 -!- nisma [~nisma@host3-28.pool21345.interbusiness.it] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:24 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508028ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:24 < netrunner> hi, anybody used raidtools with devfs? 21:25 < SMP> sure 21:29 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-191.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:29 < holyolli> moin 21:30 < daja77> huhu holyolli 21:31 < dennis> hi holyolli 21:33 < netrunner> SMP: i can start the raid, but cannot mount /dev/md/0 to /raid, he has problems with the superblock. 21:33 < netrunner> SMP: any idea? 21:34 < daja77> hey netrunner, good to see 21:34 < daja77> you 21:34 < netrunner> I found something about booting with devfs=nomount ... does that generally disable devfs? 21:35 < netrunner> daja77: nice to see you too, since that means I am now connected by a RockLinux powered server :) 21:35 < SMP> netrunner: no, it just disables automagic mounting on /dev by the kernel - but the ROCK init script will do it then 21:35 < daja77> cool we missed waterworld some minutes ago 21:36 < SMP> netrunner: what exactly do you do and what error message do you get? 21:41 < netrunner> mount: Falscher Dateisystemtyp, ungültige Optionen, der 21:41 < netrunner> »Superblock« von /dev/md/0 ist beschädigt oder es sind 21:41 < netrunner> zu viele Dateisysteme eingehängt 21:42 < SMP> well either md/0 is not active or you did not mkfs it 21:42 < SMP> did you run mkfs on it? 21:42 < netrunner> SMP: yes, a year ago. 21:42 < netrunner> SMP: I can mount the partitions alone, they are ok. 21:42 < SMP> does it appear in /proc/mdstat ? 21:44 < netrunner> md0 : active raid1 ide/host2/bus0/target1/lun0/part1[1] ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part1[0] 21:44 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9E39A92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:45 < SMP> netrunner: hmm. do you get any dmesg output when you try to use it? 21:46 < netrunner> Filesystem on 09:00 cannot be mounted because it is bigger than the device 21:46 < SMP> ugh 21:46 < netrunner> (before he says reiserfs: found format "3.6" with standard journal) 21:47 < SMP> look for the size of the individual partitions and md/0 in /proc/partitions 21:48 < netrunner> SMP: they are the same. 21:48 < netrunner> SMP: do you actually use it? do you have devfs=nomount or not? 21:49 < SMP> I don't use swraid anymore, but I helped setup a machine with it not so long ago 21:50 < SMP> it ran ROCK and did not use devfs=nomount (which has nothing whatsoever to do with the problem) 21:52 < netrunner> SMP: well in this link a guy says it solved his problem https://lists.insecure.org/linux-kernel/2001/Feb/0726.html 21:52 < netrunner> ugh, I see from the link it is 2 years old :) 21:53 < SMP> and it is not related to your problem anyway 21:53 < netrunner> SMP: If you insist I believe you :) 21:54 < netrunner> SMP: I can mount the partitions from the discs alone. so they are ok. 21:55 < SMP> when you created that raid, did you create it and then mkfs it, or did you create the raid from an existing fs? 21:57 < netrunner> SMP: the raid worked before. the thing I changed is the disk with the os, from a 1.6G redhat 7.3 to a 3.6G with RockLinux 21:57 < netrunner> SMP: and I guess I created the raid first, makes more sense ... but is long ago. 21:58 < SMP> ok, can you unplug one of the discs so you have a backup? 22:00 < netrunner> SMP: Yes, but I suddenly feel cold in awaiting your idea :) 22:01 < SMP> well the idea is to run the reiserfs resizing tool 22:02 < SMP> which will shrink the fs to whatever size the kernel thinks the device has 22:03 -!- Marti [~mafa@195.202.133.48] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:04 < netrunner> SMP: I won't fiddle with a raid that worked with redhat but not with rock. the problem has to be the kernel, the tools or devfs. 22:04 < SMP> or the filesystem 22:04 < netrunner> SMP: I can use the raid when putting back the old os. so what's the point with resizing fs' 22:04 < netrunner> SMP: no. I can mount /dev/discs/disc1/part1 without problems. they are _ok_ 22:04 < SMP> what kernel versions were you running / are you running? 22:05 < netrunner> 2.4.22-rock 22:05 < netrunner> (the mentioned disk is part of the raid btw) 22:05 < SMP> and on RedHat? 22:06 < netrunner> 2.4.18-17 22:07 < netrunner> I think I've even had a higher kernel before, but switched back to the redhat supplied. 22:07 < SMP> ok, you can either sit and cry or try running resize_reiserfs to find out that the kernel thinks about the size of the raid 22:07 < netrunner> SMP: would resize_reiserfs work without changing? 22:09 < SMP> my idea is that maybe the filesystem includes the raid superblock (at the end of the device) - of course that superblock is not visible on the raid, only on the partitions themselves, which is why the raid is smaller by one block 22:09 < SMP> without changing what? 22:11 < martin_> gn8 22:11 < netrunner> SMP: how do you explain your theory that a problem in the raid occurs by just booting another kernel? (which is the only change I did that concerns the raid) 22:11 < netrunner> SMP: I believe it cannot be a problem in the fs. I can still mount it as /dev/md0 when I boot the old redhat. 22:12 < SMP> there is no fucking problem in the raid in my theory 22:13 < SMP> maybe the old kernel doesn't check for an oversized fs, whatever 22:13 < _spectre> hm, I tried the software raid stuff for quite a while trying to create 4 raid5 arrays using 3 different discs - eventually things failed - kernel panic included 22:13 < SMP> maybe it is an error in the new kernel - then you can find out about it by trying resize_reiserfs 22:14 < _spectre> I was using 2.4.18 and one drive was on a PDC20276 (promise fasttrak) 22:14 < SMP> gah, promise crap 22:15 < _spectre> strangely it works fine using it to run drives single 22:15 < _spectre> I've used it for over a year now, having a 100+ Gig movie partition on one disc attached to the controller 22:15 < _spectre> never ever a problem 22:16 < _spectre> only when I try raid 22:16 < _spectre> I could mkraid the first two, sometimes even three arrays, then I ended up with a kernel panic 22:16 < netrunner> SMP: ok, I did it and resize_reiserfs sais: /dev/discs/disc2/part1 already is of the needed size. Nothing to be done 22:16 < SMP> cool 22:17 < SMP> looks like a kernel bug 22:17 < _spectre> SMP: have You ever been able to really set up & use a software raid ? 22:18 < SMP> _spectre: yes. there's nothing special about it 22:18 < netrunner> _spectre: I did it. and it worked fine. until I gave it to rocklinux. 22:19 < SMP> other than that XFS on LVM on sw-RAID5 exploded like hell 22:19 < netrunner> _spectre: but that's unfair, I am still a friend of the idea that it is devfs related 22:19 < _spectre> reading the howto it sounds as if it should work ok, I could not get it to run okay, so after trying around for about a week I just left it 22:19 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E79858.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("bye bye") 22:19 < _spectre> aha, well I tried it on drock-1.6.1 22:20 < SMP> netrunner: try the new kernel on the old RedHat (!) with devfs=nomount 22:20 < _spectre> right now I'm trying to make dvdrip run on drock-2.0beta7 22:21 < _spectre> if You're still trying/needing fixing for that package I could summarize for You what I did ? (- but I still need to test a few things) 22:21 < _spectre> There isn't a bugtracking system for rocklinux by any chance, is there ? 22:22 < ruddur> question i have configured font in /etc/default.vcfont but is only in the vc/1 how for the rest of vc 22:22 < SMP> _spectre: https://www.rocklinux.net/flyspray/ 22:22 < _spectre> ah, thx :-) 22:23 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-191.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: Hrm... I wonder if I paid this month's electr...EOF From client") 22:24 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.19.79.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:24 < _spectre> so, if I have a bug and the fix, too should I write both in there ? 22:24 < SMP> _spectre: no, send it to the mailing list 22:24 < netrunner> SMP: I'll do so later when my gf has finished watching the movie (the lvm already works :) 22:26 < _spectre> okay 22:33 < _spectre> *dvdrippin* =) 22:33 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.8.93.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 22:43 < _spectre> SMP: I cannot register as a new user on flyspray as I'm not receiving the confirmation email 22:45 < SMP> *shrug* give it some time ... I am not in charge of flyspray or the machine it is hosted on, so I can't say anything about this 22:46 < _spectre> okay, we'll see 22:50 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9E39A92.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:51 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@adsl-80-236-133-119.wanadoo.be] has joined #rocklinux 22:51 < blokkie> hi 22:52 < blokkie> how do I get imlib2_loaders seen by enlightenment ? 23:04 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-009.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:26 < ruddur> when i define setfont in default.vcfont there is only vc/1 with the new font 23:26 < blokkie> hi mistik1 23:26 < ruddur> how to modify for this affect all vc 23:49 -!- javisiu [~javier@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #RockLinux 23:49 -!- javisiu [~javier@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Client Quit) --- Log closed Thu Sep 04 00:00:10 2003