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--- Log opened Thu Sep 04 00:00:10 2003
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00:45 < rammi> hi.. guys
00:45 < daja77> hi rammi 
00:47 < rammi> whats up?
00:49 < daja77> not much i fear
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00:51 < rammi> :)
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02:00 < [n00kie]> rolla: Are you there?
02:13 < rxr> re
02:30 < mnemoc> re
02:32 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
02:33 < mnemoc> hi rxr 
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02:36 < mnemoc> rxr: seems diff's regexps does not consider '.' as perl does.
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02:37 < rxr> hi nisma 
02:37 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
02:37 < nisma> hi rxr
02:37 < mnemoc> apropos Create-Diff patch for skiping svn's conflict files
02:38 < mnemoc> *.mine and *.r[1-9][0-9]* files
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02:39 < rxr> ah
02:39 < rxr> you mean the patch needs a patch?
02:39 < mnemoc> i relly don't know why that expression works... but works :)
02:40 < mnemoc> do YOU think it needs? :-)
02:41 < rxr> ah - no. I just wondered what you meant with "02:36 < mnemoc> rxr: seems diff's regexps does not consider '.' as perl does."
02:42 < mnemoc> .* match everything or just names starting with a dot
02:43 < mnemoc> in that context it seem to see it as a \..*
02:43 < mnemoc> but in [0-9]* works just like sed
02:43 < mnemoc> i'm confused :|
02:44 < rxr> jups - most shell whatever tools take this shell pathname expansion from shells as standard for filesystem matching
02:49 < mnemoc> so the dots don't need escaping and the patch is fine ;)
02:52 < rxr> hoem - I have not tested - but I think so ...
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03:00 < _spectre> okay, I'd say dvdrip works fine after installing Gtk-Perl which in turn needed the path /opt/gnome2/bin added for gtk-config to be found and I had to add /opt/gnome/lib/gtk to /etc/ld.so.conf
03:00 < _spectre> then I just installed Gtk using cpan 
03:03 < _spectre> I had no trouble making a two cd avi from a dvd - it just doesn't run in mplayer, the latter runs a little buggy on my build anyway
03:04 < _spectre> no probems playing the result using xine, though
03:17 < rxr> nice
03:20 < rxr> ok - I go to bed now ...
03:23 < rxr> cu
03:33 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
03:35 < _spectre> yo n8 auch
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03:35 < spectre|zZZ> https://desk3d.sourceforge.net/download.php <- this is kinda fun 
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04:27 < nisma> in
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04:39 < anca21^^^> Hello.
04:42 < anca21^^^> What do you think about Arch Linux?
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09:28 < esden> good morning everyone!
09:29 < esden> I hate applications that use glibc internal variables >_<
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10:39 < netrunner> moin
11:40 < daja77> moin
11:41 < SMP> anyone here have a 1.5/1.6 xfree86 package?
11:53 < owl> moin
11:53 < owl> why a 1.5 xfree-package? 
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11:55 < SMP> owl: because 1 2 3
11:57 < owl> ??? 
11:58 < daja77> guess he just wants to say that he has good reasons, otherwise he wouldn't ask
11:58 < owl> hmm... 
11:58 < owl> binary? src? pkg-desc?
11:59 < SMP> binary
11:59 < owl> 1.6-pre3-binary would be ok for you?
12:00 < SMP> I guess
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12:00 < huebi> Moin
12:01 < SMP> heh, speaking of 1.5/1.6 - Huebi arrives right on time ;)
12:01 < owl> *g* yes, and he has not a crappy-connection like /me has
12:03 < owl> hi huebi, btw
12:03 < huebi> in the next months I should have time for a 1.6.0 release.
12:03 < huebi> hi owl
12:03 * huebi wech- essen in der Kantine
12:03 < SMP> oh please not
12:03 < owl> ah - what- release?!!!
12:04 < SMP> nobody needs 1.6 anymore
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12:42 < owl> "FREISTAAT BAYERN"
12:42 < owl> Bayern gehört zu den ältesten Staaten Europas, mit
12:42 < owl> einer eigenständigen Geschichte und einer seit
12:42 < owl> Jahrhunderten gewachsenen christlichen Kultur.
12:43 < daja77> *cough*
12:43 < owl> wonderful.. (www.bayernpartei.de - almost as great as PBC)
12:44 < owl> the most beatiful joke written down in the "wahlprogramm" - "bayern soll ein eigener staat werden"
12:45 < daja77> i support this idea ...
12:45 < owl> daja77: *kick*
12:46 < daja77> hehe
12:46 < owl> *grml* ;p
12:47 < daja77> don't worry, be happy *sing*
12:48 * SMP would not mind if Bavaria left the Federation
12:48 < SMP> they can even take Saxony with them
12:48 < daja77> ha! 
12:49 < daja77> never
12:49 < daja77> you can be happy to be a freistaat :P
12:50 < owl> why?
12:51 < daja77> cos thuringia was not supposed to be one
12:51 < owl> hmm
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12:58 < huebi> re
13:01 < daja77> wb huebi 
13:01 < huebi> hi daja77 
13:03 < daja77> :)
13:14 < esden> re hi all
13:14 < daja77> moin esden :)
13:14 < esden> strange ... why is util-linux once more broken ... >_<
13:14 < daja77> to give you a headache ...
13:15 < esden> I fixed it already in stage 3 yesterday ... and now it is once more broken in stage 9 o_O
13:15 < SMP> by the way - what's the deal here:
13:15 < esden> daja77: you may be right
13:15 < SMP> (ahh, forget it)
13:16 < esden> SMP: ?
13:16 < esden> what's the deal where?
13:17 < SMP> I said forget it
13:17 < esden> ok
13:21 * daja77 still waiting for downloads to finish to build rc2
13:23 * -> esden waiting for vim to finish build under dietlibc so I have an editor for debugging ;)
13:23 < daja77> hehe
13:25 < esden> only as a note it is compiling out of the box under dietlibc ... I do not have to patch or tweak anything to make it work!
13:25 < esden> that is what I call good software ;)
13:26 < daja77> ack
13:26 < daja77> Ge0rG just told me that mobilix has lost again
13:26 < Ge0rG> ,oO( https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-04.09.03-000/ )
13:27 < esden> mobilix ?
13:27 * daja77 hasn't opened any webbrowser yet
13:27 < esden> ahh ok
13:28 < daja77> that website about mobile linux
13:33 < nisma> there exists a small editor, vi compatible and other emu modes, named e3 and only 9k in size
13:34 < nisma> it's written in asm, but one c-lang port exist for other cpu as x86 compatible.
13:37 < esden> nisma: what do you want to say with it?
13:37 < daja77> guess to replace vim with it
13:38 < esden> sure one can replace vim with it ... but I like the features of vim ... currently I am only getting everything possible to work with dietlibc so I do not look on size ...
13:38 < daja77> :)
13:38 < esden> but the time will come to make a package selection template that will make it _small_
13:39 < esden> but I want as many as possible packages working under dietlibc
13:39 < esden> that is the gole of the dietlibc target
13:39 < daja77> hehe /me waiting for a freebsd package template which loads 10gb or more on hd
13:49 < daja77> hmm new rfc packages
13:57 < rxr> re
13:58 < daja77> wb rxr
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14:16 < esden> hi rxr 
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14:24 < mnemoc> re
14:25 < mnemoc> hi esden, daja77, rxr, all
14:25 < esden> hi mnemoc 
14:25 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
14:26 < esden> ok once more fixed util-linux
14:26 < daja77> :)
14:30 < esden> ok ... I have to create another three patches and then I will send all that stuff to the mailinglist
14:30 < esden> that will be 20 patches ...
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14:33 < daja77> esden patch master
14:37 < esden> ok ... these are 21 patches
14:37 < daja77> make it 23 :)
14:38 < esden> that would take some more hours because the things I have to fix now need bit more time ...
14:38 < esden> and I want to get these patches out finally
14:38 < esden> otherwise they will never get applyed
14:38 < daja77> i was just kidding
14:38 < esden> but I could make it 23 ... 
14:38 < esden> I have enough to patch here ;)
14:39 * daja77 hopes that he can continue to work on rock soon
14:40 < esden> ok I check the current tree out to test if all patches apply
14:40 < esden> and then start dietlibc and bootdisk target builds ...
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14:45 * daja77 off to ltag orga meeting, cu
14:45 < mnemoc> esden: i just noticed jocelyn still as PR on the gallery...
14:47 < esden> mnemoc: o_O
14:47 < spectre> so that's the name of the girl on my rocklinux shirt ? :)
14:49 < rolla> spectre: nope
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14:50 < spectre> who's the girl on the banners then ?
14:50 < scythe_> hi
14:50 < spectre> hi scythe_
14:51 < spectre> shice, die bude braucht nen make clean vor nem make breakfast
14:52 < rolla> spectre: I believe it was Clifford's old gf
14:52 < scythe_> I just wanted to ask, anybody who did rockporting here?
14:53 < spectre> okay, so if I ever see him, I'll wear something else ;)
14:54 < scythe_> Because i'd like to start a new port, and looking for help...
14:56 < rxr> scythe_: I do SPARC and PowerPC ...
14:56 < scythe_> Then you can probablz help me
14:56 < rxr> scythe_: what arch would you like to port too?
14:57 < scythe_> Do u know anybody with spare time and willing to help create rocklinux for zseries?
14:57 < scythe_> rxr: zseries
14:57 < rxr> oehm - scythe_ are you working in a company - or just for fun?
14:58 < spectre> moin rxr - PPC sollte auf ner Aix funzen oder ?
14:58 < mnemoc> rxr: r u looking for sponsors? ;)
14:58 < dennis> ;-)
14:58 < scythe_> rxr: both / the company i work for is not using linux for commercial means, but willing to
14:58 < rxr> spectre: depends on what the hardware of the AIX box is ..
14:58 < scythe_> rxr: and we dont like suse
14:59 < mnemoc> scythe_: you will love rock :)
14:59 < scythe_> rxr: and debian doesn't have a *true* 64bit port
15:00 < spectre> rxr: okay, no idea atm, I don't have the thing here
15:00 < rxr> scythe_: I would like to help with this ...
15:00 < scythe_> so we could give out an ifl, some mbits of bandwidth and some gbytes of ess for developers
15:01 < scythe_> thats great
15:03 < scythe_> how does a new port of rock starts?
15:03 < rxr> either cross-building the basics - or compiling on another existing dist
15:04 < rxr> I prefer cross-building ... - and in ROCK 2.1 we plan to support cross-compiling of most packages (not only the base bootstrap)
15:04 < scythe_> i prefer cross compiling too
15:04 < scythe_> because the g5 cpus are a bit slow comparing to p4-s.
15:05 < scythe_> i've already cross-compiled the kernels on i686
15:07 < rxr> scythe_: could you mail me some detail (rene@rocklinux.org) - and I guess the zSeries has some virtual machine whatever support to get remove access to such a virtual CPU/IO domain ...
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15:08 < rxr> scythe_: or would you like to try it yourself - and just ask if you get stuck?
15:08 < scythe_> i'll email you all you need
15:08 < scythe_> and i can give you access to 3 running lpars over ssh, but the vm support is problematic
15:09 < scythe_> because we dont have vm software, and it would cost us $$$ - and many...
15:09 < scythe_> i am currently emailing with our ibm rep about snipl
15:09 < scythe_> the linux remote control software that they develop
15:10 < scythe_> as soon as i get it, we can start...
15:10 < rxr> so a ssh access would be non-root only ?
15:10 < scythe_> i can give you root if needed
15:10 < scythe_> as i said, these are non-production lpars.
15:11 < SMP> I have a Linux VM (with root) as well - but it's slow and lacks discspace
15:11 < scythe_> SMP: do u know what hardware is it?
15:11 < rxr> currently the ROCK sandbox requres root right for e.g. the chroot syscall ..
15:12 < scythe_> rxr: no problem, im sysadmin of these lpars
15:12 < rxr> scythe_: I have to leave for at least a few minutes - it would be nice if you could drop me some information in a mail ;-)
15:13 < SMP> scythe_: it's the IBM LCDS. I/you could look up the exact specs on their pages - but the problem is of course that they have a *ton* of VM guests
15:13 < scythe_> rxr: i will: rene@rocklinux.org
15:14 < scythe_> smp: i know that, u interested in porting too?
15:14 < SMP> at least I have remote access to some kind of VM interface to reboot / IPL - so it's at least good for that
15:14 < SMP> scythe_: I got the VM for exactly this purpose
15:15 < scythe_> smp: i will cc rene's mail to you too.
15:15 < scythe_> smp: we shall use snipl instead of vm here... we'll need to...
15:16 < scythe_> i just hope our ibm rep will soon get the needed libs for snipl
15:18 < SMP> scythe_: please use stefanp-exp-1062940681.7cda7c@cabal1.com
15:19 < scythe_> nice mail address :-) where did the user@domain.com thing gone? :-)
15:20 < SMP> my TMDA would challenge you on that address
15:21 < scythe_> ah. so where are you currently in the porting process in the ibm lcds?
15:21 < SMP> virtually nowhere
15:22 < scythe_> than we join in time... will an smp user acc be good?
15:22 < SMP> I'd prefer stefanp as a username
15:23 < scythe_> all right, no problem
15:27 < scythe_> i hope u are sitting at a box with ssh client
15:29 < scythe_> is it quicker than lcds?
15:33 < esden> ok dietlibc patches sent out ...
15:37 < esden>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
15:37 < esden> sh: /usr/local/sbin/minimalist.pl: Permission denied
15:37 < esden> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 126
15:38 < esden> what is going on?
15:41 < scythe_> esden: i met with these today too... (twice)
15:43 < esden> clifford messed it up
15:43 < esden> resending
15:55 < esden> ok ... resent
16:01 < huebi> scythe_: I think I can organise a Hitachi HDS Pilot 15S for porting.
16:04 < esden> ok ... bchat is now also back online
16:04 < esden> hi huebi 
16:05 < scythe_> huebi: sorry, i don't know it
16:05 < scythe_> huebi: is it a clone of s390?
16:10 < esden> argh I forgot the [PATCH] tag in my email >_<
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16:31 < rxr> esden: no problem
16:32 < esden> I tryed to do everything as good as possible ... and then such crap slips in ... I hate that >_<
16:33 < esden> rxr: I hope you will like my patches ... I tryed to split that stuff in small chunks as much as possible so that it is "eatable" and that you can follow what I have done ...
16:33 < esden> I hope there is no bug somewhere ...
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16:34 < rxr> esden: yes - verry well!
16:34 < rxr> esden: I think if you should implement the functions you had to work arround in some packages into the dietlibc
16:34 < rxr> do we would not need to patch them all
16:34 < rxr> s/do/so/
16:35 < rxr> I guess perl is seg-faulting because some function behave differently
16:35 < esden> rxr: yes that is also my guess
16:35 < rxr> take a look at my kiss patch - it also segfaulted because some function where used with gnu extensions to allocate the buffer
16:35 < rxr> unfortunately dietlibc does not support this and return NULL
16:35 < rxr> which will make the next access go .... BANG ...
16:36 < esden> I will take a look
16:36 < esden> I have not looked deep in perl yet ... but that is my next task 
16:37 < esden> I only got it to compile somehow without looking at consequences
16:37 < esden> so that is probably also a problem
16:37 < SMP> /old_root/dev busy when entering 2nd stage - is that a known problem?
16:37 < esden> but before I really start hacking perl I want to cleanup here and there
16:40 < rxr> could you rename the conent of dietlibc_static_dynamic (or what it name was) to static dynamic (remove the trailing ally) ?
16:40 < rxr> SMP: no
16:42 < esden> rxr: you mean diet_dynamic_static should be known as static_dynamic?
16:43 < esden> ahh I know
16:43 < rxr> no that name is ok - just the content (dynamically statically) should be shorter
16:43 < esden> yes I will ... that was a thing I wanted to change while cleaning up
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16:50 < SMP> and module loading does not seem to work
16:50 < SMP> Using /lib/modules/net/pcnet32.o
16:50 < SMP> Symbol version prefix 'smp_'
16:51 < SMP> but it does not get loaded
16:53 < mnemoc> version prefix 'mnemoc_' works :)
16:53 < SMP> ;)
16:54 < esden> rxr: ok I changed what you requested ... I will send the patch with others that I create today ;)
16:55 < SMP> is there a need to save space in the initrd?
16:56 < esden> SMP: I think yes ... otherwise one would need 30GB ram in a box to install rock ;)
17:02 < mnemoc> iirc initrd should 'work' on 386 boxes with... 8MB of ram?
17:03 < scythe_> i am going home. I've sent the mail to You - rxr and SMP. Bye.
17:03 < mnemoc> bye scythe_ ... good luck
17:03 < esden> cu scythe_ 
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17:07 < holyolli> moin
17:07 < esden> hi holyolli 
17:07 < holyolli> hi esden
17:09 < fake> morning
17:09 < esden> hi fake 
17:10 < holyolli> hi fake
17:10 * fake looking for an eye-toy camera driver
17:12 < fake> unfortunately there is a game called 'driver'
17:16 < esden> you mean called eye-toy ...
17:25 < rolla> yawn
17:26 < esden> hi rolla 
17:28 < rolla> hallo esden
17:50 < esden> ha ... that is nice, it is really good idea to read manpages ;)
17:50 < esden> -idirafter is a nice option ;)
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18:06 < esden> lol ... I am fixing util-linux the third time
18:06 < mnemoc> it's time to do the job well
18:07 < esden> I do it everytime well ... the problem this time is that I got the include paths finally correct and now util-linux is compiling all parts of itself (cfdisk for example) and I have to fix that new parts 
18:08 < esden> that were not compiled before
18:08 < esden> nice, now it works
18:08 < mnemoc> go for the fourth :)
18:08 < esden> I wait for it ;)
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18:23 < esden> :q
18:24 < esden> ups wrong window
18:24 < mnemoc> :)
18:28 < rxr> esden: ha - at least this not only happening on my side ...
18:30 < esden> rxr: yes ... such things happen also to the best ;)
18:30 < rxr> esden: erhm ...
18:30 < esden> lol
18:31 < rxr> today is 100kB SPAM day ...
18:31 < rxr> erhm virus I meant
18:32 < mnemoc> mozilla junk's detector works preatty good :)
18:33 < rxr> mnemoc: but mozilla is damn slow and does not work nicely i ssh
18:34 < rxr> I can also filter it in exim - or in XEmacs/Mew - I just wanted to mention that today this sorbig f or how it was named is quite active again ...
18:35 -!- cytrinox_ is now known as cytrinox
18:37 * -> esden making ravioli
18:37 * holyolli just had some spring rolls....
18:38 < esden> weeehoo grub fixed
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18:39 < esden> ok ... I have dialog too ... now I could make a test install of dietlibc target to see what binarys are working at real ;)
18:39 < esden> I will use the kernel from rc1 ... 
18:50 < esden> hmm ... I have already 5 patches for dietlibc laying around here ...
19:18 < rxr> maybe we should rate gentoo on freshmeat with a low rate ?
19:21 < esden> rxr: already gave them a 1 ... I am really sad that they do not have 0 in the rating at fm ...
19:21 < esden> ;)
19:23 < esden> rxr: I do not want to bug you, _really_, but when do you plan to apply/reject my dietlibc patches?
19:23 < esden> I am only curious
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19:33 < nisma> names *
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19:34 < esden> humpf
19:40 < esden> good curl fixed
19:55 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E7B95B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:55 < martin> hello
19:55 < esden> hi martin 
19:56 < martin> hi esden
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20:00 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
20:00 < rxr> esden: I apply it (I think as it is) tonight ...
20:01 < esden> good thanks
20:02 < esden> when I have dump fixed I will send another bunch of patches
20:09 < esden> aarad would be usable in the moment ...
20:11 < martin> hi rxr
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20:16 * martin is away: I'm busy
20:36 * martin is back (gone 00:20:32)
20:37 < esden> martin: your clock is wrong
20:37 < martin> esden: martin@Julia:~$ date
20:37 < martin> Thu Sep  4 20:37:19 CEST 2003
20:37 < martin> Hmm, I don't know
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20:41 < esden> ahh ok ... that is not the time you left but the time you were away ... (auto away messaging sux anyways ;) )
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20:44 < tcr> moin all
20:44 < esden> hi tcr 
20:46 < tcr> moin mr dietclib
20:47 < esden> hehe
21:19 < esden> urgh ... dump is really nasty ... >_<
21:24 < tcr> God, I'm fucking tired...
21:26 < tcr> I've got a really nasty timetable... Almost no time left for hacking 
21:27 < esden> my condolances tcr 
21:29 < tcr> I'm afraid that won't help in any way, but thanks anyway
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21:33 < tcr> moin cbq
21:41 < esden> argh argh argh I hate gnu extinations
21:42 < SMP> gnu extinctions?
21:43 < esden> argh argh kill all people using that crap ... and even in the manpage it says : "The timelocal() function is equivalent to the POSIX standard function mktime(3).  There is no reason to ever use it."
21:43 < esden> how ill one can be and use timelocal then?
21:45 < fake> why is this function there at all?
21:48 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-191.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux
21:48 < holyolli> re
21:50 < tcr> esden: Why don't you set CFLAGS to -std=C99 and some other options (maybe) ?
21:50 < tcr> Then try to compile the programm you know if they don't use gnu extensions, if they do write to the maintainer
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21:55 < esden> fake: because it is glibc ... 
21:57 < esden> the dump patch will go upstream for sure ... the guys there really do not know what they are doing >_<
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21:59 < tcr> esden: _All_ patches should go to upstream, really :)
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22:00 < esden> wooooooooow that function is _naaaaasty_ ROFL ... guys try "man rcmd" if you do not know it yet 
22:06 < esden> tcr: yes I know
22:06 < esden> and many patches will go upstream
22:06 < esden> but for that I have to reserve extra time
22:07 < daja77> re
22:07 < esden> re daja77 *hug*
22:07 < daja77> esden: *rehug*
22:07 * daja77 back from fixing afs at my parent's
22:08 < esden> afs?
22:08 < daja77> yepp i experimented with it 2 years ago there ...
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22:10 < tcr> esden: I fair that too less patches really go upstream. I think that's mostly because many patches are _trivial_ (like adapting some install paths in makefiles), but they should be fixed maybe-no-so-trivial that they can go upstream and will vanish after some time
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22:10 < tcr> s,fair,fear,
22:11 < esden> argh ... /me taking a big baseball bat and hitting clifford
22:11 < tcr> *g*
22:12 < tcr> Whateva..
22:12 < daja77> Ge0rG: you here?
22:12 < esden> --enable-rmt is set on by default ... he does not need to enable it extra in dump.conf >_<
22:12 < ruddur> hi, all
22:12 < Ge0rG> daja77: nope ;)
22:12 < esden> I have to disable that and he prevents me from that ... I hate that
22:12 < daja77> hey ruddur :)
22:12 < tcr> I'm gonna sleep, gn9 all
22:12 * -> esden hitting clifford some more times
22:12 < daja77> Ge0rG: why does euirc tells me that I am banned on your chan?
22:12 < tcr> gn8 even
22:13 < Ge0rG> daja77: are you guest?
22:13 < daja77> yes wanted to change back, but tells me i can't while bein banned
22:13 < Ge0rG> daja77: thats correct
22:13 < daja77> hm?
22:13 < tcr> I call that a deadlock
22:14 < daja77> yeah cos i can talk as gest but am banned by real nick
22:15 < tcr> I wouldn't care anyway :) But, fuck, I wanted to sleep, didn't I? 
22:15 < ruddur> question i change font in default.vcfont and the problem is there is only the first console vc/1 with the font changed how to correct this
22:15 < Ge0rG> daja77: you have to part the channel, get your nick back and join
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22:16 < daja77> yeah id o but it sucks
22:17 < Ge0rG> daja77: correct
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22:25 < Freak> rxr?
22:25 < daja77> hey Freak 
22:25 < Freak> hey daja77
22:25 < daja77> :)
22:26 < Freak> how is everything?
22:26 < daja77> fine
22:28 < daja77> the qustion is, how is clifford now that esden has finished
22:29 < Freak> finished what?
22:29 < daja77> beating him
22:29 < esden> daja77: he is still alive ... he is 4.5 hours away so I could not hit him in real >_<
22:29 < Freak> =)
22:29 < fake> rhit ?
22:30 < daja77> :)
22:30 < daja77> hehe, hi fake 
22:30 < fake> hiho daja77 
22:30 < Freak> hey fake
22:30 < esden> fake: yes ... I have implemented that in glibc ;)
22:30 < daja77> lol
22:31 < esden> and I will send it upstream ... the guys of glibc love such bloated crappy monster functions
22:31 < Freak> hum
22:32 < esden> hi Freak sbtw ;)
22:32 < daja77> we should send esden upstream
22:32 < Freak> somethings on the table preventing me from seeing the lower right corner of my tv screen..
22:32 < Freak> but I dont wanna get up and remove it....
22:32 < Freak> hey esden :)
22:32 < esden> Freak: you lazy ass 
22:32 < Freak> yea i know (:
22:33 < fake> Freak: i know exactly how you feel
22:33 < Freak> but its so warm in my bed
22:33 < fake> *stretchyawn*
22:33 < Freak> =)
22:33 * fake eating pizza
22:33 < Freak> i had one already
22:33 < Freak> =)+
22:33 < Freak> uhm typing while lying in bed is tricky
22:34 * -> esden had ravioli today
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22:34 < Freak> ok, I'll remove that silly thing now. its really annoying.
22:34 < tfing> hi there
22:34 < esden> hi tfing 
22:35 < Freak> *shiver* its sooooo fn cold
22:41 < esden> :q
22:41 < esden> argh ... sorry wrong window
22:41 < daja77> hehe
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22:58 < owl> remoin
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23:01 < daja77> *aaaargh*
23:01 < owl> daja77: ?
23:02 < daja77> second download oif wxPython crap
23:02 < daja77> pollutes my bandwith
23:02 < owl> hm. not good
23:03 < daja77> ack
23:03 < fake> hi owl
23:07 < esden> huhu owl 
23:07 < esden> urgh ... I think the guys frop dump never tryed to compile it without rmt ...
23:08 < esden> the option --without-rmt exists in configure but does nothing ... *sigh*
23:08 < daja77> hehehe
23:08 < esden> or nearly nothing
23:08 < owl> hi fake 
23:08 < esden> not enough at least ... it is not disabling rmt fully
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23:10 < daja77> btw what is rmt, *havetoaskstupid*
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23:10 < daja77> :)
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23:11 < esden> rmt stands for remote in that case
23:11 < esden> and allowes in case of dump to make remote backups
23:11 < daja77> ah k.
23:11 < esden> and it uses that monster function called rcmd ... so I want to disable that
23:13 < ruddur> it's possible to change the font for all console
23:14 < daja77> ?
23:14 < ruddur> i change the font in default.vcfont 
23:15 < ruddur> but there is only the first console 
23:15 < ruddur> with this font
23:16 < daja77> hmm dunno
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23:17 < esden> wooohooo I got dump to compile
23:18 < esden> now restore needs some strokes and hits
23:19 * daja77 votes for esden as mr universe
23:23 < esden> o_O
23:24 < daja77> better you than schwarzenegger again
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23:24 < esden> and how do you come to such an idea?
23:25 < owl> https://www.hedrik.de/index.php?cat=8 << "sco baut vor"
23:25 < daja77> hmm dunno, out of boredom i guess
23:27 < esden> aha ... ok ... sounds so ... 
23:27 < esden> but if you are bored daja77 you are free to test my dietlibc patches and get perl running under dietlibc ;)
23:27 < esden> then you are not bored anymore ;)
23:28 < daja77> bored and tired and *still* waiting for downloads to finsh before i can build rc2 >_<
23:29 < esden> rc2 is released? o_O 
23:29 < esden> have I missed something?
23:30 < daja77> nah pre rc2
23:32 < esden> you mean a svn checkout ... ok
23:33 < daja77> yes
23:33 < daja77> have no other name for it
23:34 < esden> svn snapshot?
23:37 < daja77> svn_HEAD :)
23:37 < daja77> svn:HEAD
23:37 < daja77> d'oh
23:38 < esden> yes that is the best name for that 
23:55 < fake> bye
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