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--- Log opened Wed Sep 10 00:00:43 2003 --- Day changed Wed Sep 10 2003 00:00 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-161.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:02 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:11 < owl> gnarf. re 00:12 < daja77> wb *beg* 00:12 < owl> beg??? sorry... i'm too tired to think 00:13 < daja77> vbeg without v 00:13 < owl> ah so.. 00:13 < owl> but why are you grinsing evil? 00:13 < owl> (god, my english is great...) 00:14 < daja77> just for fun 00:14 < owl> daja77: *kick* 00:14 * daja77 got kicked to bed 00:14 < daja77> cu 00:15 < owl> *g* bye, gn8 daja77 00:29 < esden> gn8 daja77 00:29 < esden> rxr: when do you plan to create the wiki svn tree? 00:32 < SMP> not until some time after 2.0 release, I hop 00:32 < SMP> hope 00:34 < rxr> yes after 2.0 00:37 < rxr> we also have to do some work to have some automatics arround this 00:37 < rxr> clifford mentioned to use an external database and a web interface for this 00:37 < rxr> I do not like this - and also do not want a web interface 00:39 < rxr> I also do not want to have some db attached shakily - I want all the meta information in subversion - best as properties ... 00:46 < rxr> SMP: what was with the cdrom device chmod thing? 00:47 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD950E036.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:48 < esden> rxr: good thanks for the info 00:48 < esden> very well we have sodipodi in rock 00:48 * -> esden running emerge ;) 00:49 < rxr> esden: oh I did not took a look on sodipodi for some months - could you update it when you are at it ? 00:55 < esden> rxr: sure 00:58 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213188098201.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 01:12 < rxr> me to bed - cu 01:15 < esden> n8 rxr 01:53 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-150.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:03 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 02:16 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02:49 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-216.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:10 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-150.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:21 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.35.20.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:41 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.180.152.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:00 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:17 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-004.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:17 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506B72.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:32 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:40 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-004.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:40 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-216.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:55 -!- acm_kiki [~kiki@200.72.215.250] has joined #rocklinux 06:08 < mnemoc> wb kiki 06:20 < acm_kiki> hallo mnemoc 06:46 < blindcoder> mornin' everyone 06:47 < mnemoc> moin bc 06:58 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-104.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:58 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-165.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:03 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td90918cc.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:08 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1, aszlig, snyke 08:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, snyke, mistik1 08:31 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1, aszlig, snyke 08:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, snyke, mistik1 08:35 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm83.gamma148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:21 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:24 < [anders]> moin 09:35 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm83.gamma148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 09:46 < esden> moin 09:59 < blindcoder> moin moin 10:10 < esden> hehe I have my lcd back online ... 10:10 < esden> besides the backlight ... that needs some resoldiering ;) 10:12 < daja77> moin 10:12 < esden> moin daja77 10:12 * -> esden plugging in soldiering iron ;) 10:13 < daja77> huhu esden :) 10:14 < daja77> iron man ... 10:16 < blindcoder> moin moin daja77 10:17 < daja77> moin blindy 10:18 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-182.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:26 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-165.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:27 < esden> ok ready 10:30 < blindcoder> esden: you should better go to uni and learn something :) 10:37 < esden> I have written papers for my talks tomorrow the whole night ... so I can now have some fun ;) 10:39 -!- nisma [~nisma@host185-96.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #rocklinux 10:39 < daja77> err fun alone, with yourself? 10:41 < esden> yup 10:41 < esden> that is possible ;-) 10:41 -!- cytrinox__ [~cytrinox@p213.54.147.147.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:44 < blindcoder> I don't want to even start thinking about that sentence 10:45 * daja77 neither 10:58 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.35.20.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:04 -!- nisma [~nisma@host185-96.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:05 < esden> waaaaahhhhh what is going on ... perl is compiling ... 11:05 * -> esden falls of the chair 11:05 < daja77> hehe 11:06 < esden> that is simply unpossible that it compiles 11:06 < esden> I have done nothing ... really nothing 11:14 < rxr> re 11:20 < esden> re rxr 11:20 < esden> why is nisma gone !!! >_< 11:27 < esden> ok make minitest yelds errors in numeric tests ... that is what has to have been expected ... 11:27 < esden> the conversion from numbers to strings is broken ... 11:27 < esden> it is for sure a bug in dietlibc libm 11:44 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 11:47 * blindcoder just got one good and one half-good piece of information 11:48 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E7A2CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4D205.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:14 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:18 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E7A2CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("bye bye") 12:22 < rxr> esden: you modifications for e.g. e2fsprogs do not work for the non-dietlibc case! 12:22 < rxr> and this pkg specific options in e.g. e2fsprogs and zlib are not really clean 12:22 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-182.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 12:23 -!- nisma [~nisma@host185-96.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #rocklinux 12:23 < rxr> could you make those pkg_*_pre.conf files? 12:24 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-182.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:56 < nisma> quit 12:56 -!- nisma [~nisma@host185-96.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has quit ("Leaving") 13:09 < owl> moin 13:09 < owl> god, is this school senseless!!! *SCREAM* 13:37 < blindcoder> ack 13:41 < jsaw_> re 13:41 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 13:56 -!- acm_kiki [~kiki@200.72.215.250] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:21 < rxr> hi jsaw 14:21 < rxr> Freak: you noticed that I have soem ppc isos out? 14:21 < Freak> nah 14:21 < Freak> but I was thinking about the thing.. 14:21 < Freak> because 14:22 < Freak> the thing is 14:22 < Freak> I want it to be adjusted to my machine. 14:22 < Freak> if I install something precompiled now I can just stick with debian. 14:23 < rxr> Freak: sure - but it is faw esier to build ROCK on ROCK then on some broken debian ... 14:24 < rxr> https://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/rock/ 14:24 < rxr> and I would have feedback to release the ISOs officially ... 14:28 < Freak> rxr: my debian aint broken ;P 14:28 < Freak> but lets not talk about it. 14:28 < Freak> I'll get them. 14:30 < rxr> Freak: you do not see it - but compiling rock would yield many broken applications (sed, awk, bash) that do corrupt things here and there. 14:30 < Freak> hum 14:31 < rxr> been there - done that ... 14:32 < jsaw> hi rxr 14:34 < rxr> Freak: it is even worser on SuSE where even the normal user notice that those fundametal programs got patched into a non-working state ... 14:34 < rxr> jsaw: hi 14:40 < Freak> rxr: what do you mean? 14:41 < esden> rxr: that is right that not all things work for non dietlibc systems ... some of them are still dirty hacks 14:41 < esden> it needs time so I have that patches clean 14:41 < esden> argh I missed nisma once more >_< 14:42 < esden> rxr: why should I do pkg_*_pre.conf files? 14:45 < rxr> because it is not clean to munch the normal package config files with dietlibc if's ... 14:45 < rxr> for e.g. e2fsprogs and libz ... 14:46 < rxr> esden: but I can also clean this if you like / prefer 14:46 < esden> so you prefere that I have half a ton of pkg_*_pre files in dietibc package directory ... that is much less clean if you ask me 14:47 < rxr> it is much cleaner because you do not have chaos in the normal files 14:47 < esden> I really prefere to have everything in one place in reusable code form and not that I have to create redundant code 14:48 < rxr> and btw if I read them correct they now are broken for a normal build ... 14:48 < esden> hurgh ... moment ... 14:48 < esden> ahh you mean the confopt stuff 14:48 < esden> right ... ok 14:48 < esden> that should be in the pre file 14:49 < esden> and same for zlib 14:49 * blindcoder whistles innocently 14:49 < esden> rxr: yes it is broken for a normal build ... now I see it ... I have not seen it before 14:50 < esden> sorry 14:50 * -> esden was blinded 14:50 -!- fake [~fake@pD950E8DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:50 < esden> hi fake 14:50 < fake> hi 14:51 * -> esden was faster *GG* 14:51 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4D205.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:51 < rxr> esden: and 4 more dietlibc/pkg_xyz_pre.conf files are not such a burden ... 14:51 < esden> yes yes ... sure 14:51 < daja77> hi fake 14:52 < blindcoder> hi fake 14:52 < fake> ah, blindcoder back from vacation 14:53 < blindcoder> fake: sure :-) since Saturday night 14:53 < blindcoder> Currently pushing the work of updating nethack, scmxx and SDL in front of me... 14:54 < daja77> *gg* blindcoder -> lazycoder 14:54 * daja77 hides 14:54 * blindcoder acks daja :-) 14:56 < blindcoder> btw. I've heard rumors of gnome 2.4 being released this evening... 14:58 < rolla> already done 14:59 < daja77> hi rolla 14:59 < blindcoder> oh 15:01 < rolla> :) 15:02 < rolla> https://arstechnica.com/reviews/003/software/gnome-2.4/gnome2.4-1.html 15:07 < daja77> cool that article is from one of the mdlug guys 15:16 < rxr> esden: can I expect this dietlibc improvements soon - or should I fix them ... ? 15:31 * blindcoder going home 15:35 < esden> rxr ... I will send the patches as soon as possible 15:36 < esden> rxr: will we update gnome before 2.0? 15:38 * daja77 hopes so 15:39 < esden> I have found some problems with the current gnome2 packages this night .. I played a bit with it .. and somehow is theming broken 15:40 < esden> the themes are not being found ... but it may be a problem because it is a box that was updated to rc1 and not a clean rc1 install 15:40 < esden> galeon is segfaulting so by the way in rc1 15:41 < daja77> hmm and epiphany? 15:41 < esden> have not tested 15:46 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD950EDF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:48 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD950EDF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 15:55 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td90918cc.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:56 -!- scoopexH [~marc@p5083266E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:02 < esden> ok ... reading that article about gnome 2.4 convinces me more and more that we _have_ to update 16:03 < esden> before 2.0 16:10 < jsaw> esden: I'm at it. 16:10 < jsaw> just extracted all source, that are still missing in gnome from garnome yesterday... 16:15 -!- cytrinox__ is now known as cytrinox 16:16 < rxr> svn is now down for maintenance 16:18 < esden> jsaw: very well 16:18 * -> esden tested epiphany now ... it is not crashing at least ;) 16:18 < esden> but somehow the toolbar was not on by default and the statusbar also 16:19 < esden> and I can not find the place where I can configure the size of the icons and the textonly/iconsonly option 16:19 < esden> we have a too old version of epiphany? 16:20 < esden> so that it is not containing so much HIGed yet? 16:21 < esden> so that it is not containing so much HIG work yet? 16:21 < rxr> esden: feel free to update 16:21 < rxr> btw I update sodipodi today 16:22 < esden> rxr: sodipodi is crashing when trying to import a graphic 16:22 < esden> that is why I have not sent an update yet 16:22 < esden> I will try it on my laptop in a moment to see if it has to do with my broken main machine 16:23 < esden> or not 16:25 < esden> ok in the older version it works perfectly ... now I update on my laptop 16:30 < rxr> ok - me dumping svn databases ... 16:35 < owl> rehi 16:36 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 < fake> owl: re 16:38 < fake> owl: how was religion? 16:38 < fake> *g* 16:44 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9EB6FDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:50 < daja77> *yeah* damn bug eliminated 16:51 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F3D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:51 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F0D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 16:51 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 16:55 < esden> rxr: the new sodipodi is crashing when you try to import an image ... 16:55 < esden> that is checked now 17:08 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 17:10 < daja77> hmm has anyone tested 2nd_stage_small with rc1 ? 17:10 < esden> yes it boots ... but that is all 17:11 < daja77> oh 17:11 < esden> I have tested 17:11 < daja77> so install doesn't work? 17:11 < esden> I have not tested that 17:11 < esden> I only checked if it boots 17:11 < daja77> hmm ic 17:11 < esden> because I remembered that it did not even boot the last time I checked 17:12 < owl> hi 17:12 < owl> oeh? wtf is that? 17:12 < owl> svn co svn://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/trunk 17:12 < owl> svn: Connection refused 17:12 < owl> svn: Can't connect to host 'schillernet.dyndns.org' 17:12 < esden> hmm anjuta is nice 17:12 < mnemoc> rxr is down :) 17:12 < esden> I will create some tool for rock with it I planned for a long time and see if it is usable ;) 17:13 < owl> ah. k. thx. 17:13 < owl> which tool for rock? 17:13 < esden> owl: read scrollback ;) 17:13 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-36.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 < esden> owl: that is a surprise ;) 17:13 < holyolli> moin 17:13 < owl> esden: nah. i won't 17:13 < daja77> owl: subversion is down for maintainance 17:13 < owl> k 17:13 < owl> (and when up again?) 17:13 < blindcoder> owl: as rxr said at 16:17 it is now down for upgrade to a new version 17:13 < esden> and I will have lot of offline time in poland 17:14 < esden> so I can do such things 17:15 * blindcoder ponders what he should do right now 17:15 < esden> play around with applications ;) 17:15 < blindcoder> a) watch anime 17:15 * -> esden currently switched his laptop to a gnome monster ;) 17:15 < blindcoder> b) work on ROCK 17:15 < blindcoder> c) go to the gym 17:16 < blindcoder> c) play some games 17:16 < esden> c1 17:16 < esden> ;) 17:16 < holyolli> blindcoder: oh...gym for geeks...? ;-) 17:16 < blindcoder> e) wear some of my cool new clothe and spend some money in the next pub 17:16 < blindcoder> f) drink a coffee 17:17 < blindcoder> g) drink some sake 17:17 < blindcoder> hm... too many choices 17:17 < daja77> blindcoder: b) :) 17:17 < owl> was i there on 16? i wasn't - so where should i know that from? 17:18 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm... that'll be hard cause I'm currently building ROCK for esden 17:18 * -> esden sees a real hill of things that he has to do for rock ... that really scares me 17:18 < blindcoder> and he won't be happy if I change something during his build :-) 17:18 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:18 < daja77> hehe ic 17:18 < esden> blindcoder: use an other tree ... 17:18 < blindcoder> esden: svn is down 17:18 < esden> ahh yes right 17:18 < blindcoder> and I currently have only my own tree next to your clean one 17:18 * -> esden forgot about that 17:18 < blindcoder> :) 17:19 < daja77> blindcoder: the backup svn should be online 17:19 < esden> yes the gsmp one or how it is called 17:19 < blindcoder> hm... I guess I have to chop down on choices 17:19 < daja77> yepp 17:19 < blindcoder> so I'll now have a coffee and then see again :-) 17:19 < blindcoder> brb 17:19 < daja77> cu 17:21 * daja77 testing 2nd stage small 17:21 < daja77> stone: comman not found *grml* 17:21 < daja77> command 17:23 < daja77> should add this to flyspray 17:24 < esden> stone is obviously too big for small 2nd stage 17:25 < daja77> O_o 17:25 < daja77> well then there shouldn't be a message, just type stone now 17:27 < daja77> am I blind, or is there no login button in flyspray 17:29 < daja77> ok i was blind 17:31 < daja77> oh nice login doesn't work 17:32 < rxr> reloading dbs ... 17:33 < daja77> any known problems with flyspray login? 17:34 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M258P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:35 < mnemoc> daja77: look below or logoff first :) 17:36 < daja77> i found it, it says login successful, but showing me the same crap like before when finished 17:36 < daja77> in short, i can't do anything there 17:36 < mnemoc> cookies? 17:36 < mnemoc> Logged in as - mnemoc 17:37 < daja77> ah cookies could not enabled, damn konqueror, trying with mozilla 17:39 < daja77> hehe, mozilla remembered login from last time, forgot that i used mozilla for that 17:39 < mnemoc> hehe 17:46 < daja77> ok adding task :) 17:57 < esden> god I have luck ... Yesterday as I wanted to go hunting it was also raining ... >_< 17:57 < daja77> sun shines here ;-) 18:00 < esden> 18 o'clock I am off for food 18:00 < holyolli> esden: happy mampfing ;-) 18:00 * daja77 too 18:08 * fake twiddling around with mysql 18:09 < rxr> daja77: konqueror works fine here ... 18:19 < rxr> svn up again 18:19 < rxr> test checkout running .. 18:20 < holyolli> seems to work... 18:22 -!- nisma [~nisma@host230-96.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #rocklinux 18:23 < rxr> hm - seems to be a bit faster 18:27 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802E1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802ACE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:39 < esden> re hi all 18:40 < esden> grrrr the newest anjuta crashes >_< 18:40 -!- scoopexH [~marc@p5083266E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:41 < nisma> hi esden 18:42 < esden> hi nisma 18:42 < esden> finally you are together here 18:43 < esden> I have run the make minitest 18:43 < nisma> and 18:43 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091f59.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 < esden> it yelds that test num is failing 18:44 < Freak> re *wiping his eyes* 18:44 < esden> the test number 9, 34, 44 and 45 18:44 < esden> with following errors: 18:44 < esden> not ok 9 # 10.009999999999999 18:45 < nisma> you must complete the test manually, 4 tests fails, because the dietlibc have one round error in printf G args. 18:45 < esden> (the code is : $a = 10.01; print $a eq "10.01") 18:45 < esden> and the others are simmilar 18:46 < esden> what do you mean that I have to complete the test manually? 18:46 < nisma> this is "normal". I have used one printf implementation from the net and the error are gone away, but the printf 18:47 < nisma> i mean, the minitest abort on math error and the ulterior tests does not complete. 18:48 < nisma> in the perl dir, you must go in the "t" subdirectory and execute ./perl xxx/*.t manually to be sure, that the restant code are error free 18:49 < nisma> there can be some nasty error with io / network that you don't test, because the tests abort on the first error (math). 18:50 < esden> yes I have now commented out the die that is being invoked when a test fails 18:50 < esden> that should also do the thing 18:50 < nisma> the rest compleet without errors ? 18:51 < esden> t/op/sprintf.........FAILED at test 0 18:51 < esden> for example 18:51 < esden> there are many more 18:52 < esden> I do not have Config.pm because miniperl crashes when I try to create it 18:52 < esden> that produces many more errors 18:53 < nisma> I had only the 4 math tests errors. 18:53 < nisma> I must tgz the source, and sending it to you, because i have made some adjustements in config.sh 18:54 < nisma> and then invoked ./Configure -der to propagate the config.sh in the subdirs. 18:54 < esden> ahh please do not do that ... please do that over the -D options of Configure 18:54 < esden> that is what I need 18:55 < nisma> I must make diff from the original sources to make this. 18:55 < nisma> I must download it from internet. 18:57 < nisma> For the math problem "printf("%G"), what you thing to do ? fix dietlibc or use annother source (.o) to resolv it. 18:57 < esden> please do so, you remember at least vague what definitions you have changed by hand 18:57 -!- trilluser [~lhang@cm85.omega162.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 18:57 < esden> we should fix that in dietlibc and send patch to fefe 18:57 < esden> that is what I think is the best 18:57 -!- trilluser [~lhang@cm85.omega162.maxonline.com.sg] has left #rocklinux () 18:58 < esden> but is more work then replacing the printf function 18:58 < nisma> one moment, pls. 19:00 < esden> k 19:05 < daja77> rxr: i still have 3.1.2 maybe it was broken there 19:06 * A-Tui is away: Satanás el Infierno es demasiado dulce 19:06 < daja77> :) 19:10 < nisma> re 19:11 < daja77> wb nisma 19:11 < nisma> what version of busybox you use 19:12 < nisma> esden: have you made a patch for modf ( not part of dietlibc, but needed by perl) 19:13 * blindcoder back 19:14 < esden> nisma: yes I have 19:15 < esden> nisma: I do not use busybox 19:19 < nisma> sorry: dietlibc 19:21 < esden> the latest one the 22 19:24 < nisma> i must finish annother thing, after that, i fix dietlibc and send the config to you. 19:25 < esden> perfect!! thanks nisma 19:25 < esden> I also have to do some other work >_< 19:29 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:23:09) 19:35 < esden> debug-perl5:[perl-5.8.0]# ./miniperl -Ilib t/comp/script.t 19:35 < esden> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 19:35 < esden> not good ... 19:35 < esden> *sigh* 19:36 < esden> many segfaults ... I hope that the printf fix will make it go 19:43 -!- dennis__ [~dennis@pD950E823.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:44 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-36.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:45 < Nebukadneza> is there rock for sparc? 19:45 < daja77> think so 19:45 < Nebukadneza> hum ... what about space? i need a minimalistic sys for apache and proftpd ... 19:46 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-36.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:47 < esden> not installable yet 19:47 < esden> @ Nebukadneza 19:48 < Nebukadneza> wha 19:48 < Nebukadneza> shit! 19:48 < Nebukadneza> hum 19:48 < esden> nobody is working on that port with high priority ... rxr is doing it when he is bored ;) 19:48 < Nebukadneza> lol 19:48 < Nebukadneza> okay 19:56 -!- christian__ [~christian@p508393FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9EB6FDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:09 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.147.147.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:10 -!- fake [~fake@pD950E8DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] The birds kept calling his name, thought Caw") 20:13 < rxr> Nebukadneza: what SPARC - old - or newer Ultra SPARC? 20:15 -!- christian_ [~christian@p508391EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:17 -!- dennis__ is now known as dennis 20:18 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.148.38.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 < blindcoder> uwacha... 20:20 < blindcoder> my mldonkey is eating up >256 MB of RAM ... 20:20 < holyolli_> blindcoder: did you read heise-news? on monday they'll shut down one of the bigger ed-servers 20:21 * holyolli_ is wondering how this will have an impact on the ed-performance... 20:21 < blindcoder> well, I'm on anime-servers which usually have lower people (~2000) 20:21 -!- holyolli_ is now known as holyolli 20:21 < holyolli> ah 20:21 < blindcoder> the biggest ones I know have around 50k to 500k 20:21 < blindcoder> (yes that's fifty and five hundred thousand) 20:21 < blindcoder> besides, I don't read heise 20:21 < holyolli> *g* 20:22 < blindcoder> they're talking too much crap 20:22 < holyolli> ack. even the magazina is getting worse and worse... 20:23 < blindcoder> if it's only silent-bob 20:24 < blindcoder> then it seems some people didn't get how ed is working 20:26 < blindcoder> it has a far greater impact that more and more people are moving to bittorrent 20:28 < holyolli> y? 20:29 < blindcoder> simple: less users, less sources 20:29 < blindcoder> but: one big server gone -> people connect to other servers 20:29 < blindcoder> it simply doesn't matter if several servers fail 20:29 < blindcoder> at least for anime, that is ^^ 20:30 < holyolli> hehe 20:30 < blindcoder> and the rest I don't really cre about 20:45 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M258P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:48 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M277P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:59 -!- fake [~fake@pD950E8DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:59 < fake> re 21:04 < esden> ha ... now anjuta should work 21:04 < esden> re fake 21:04 < esden> compiling once more ... 21:05 * -> esden continues writing slides for tomorow meanwhile 21:34 < netrunne1> re 21:34 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 21:34 < netrunner> does it work when I cat /var/spool/mail/andreas | procmail 21:35 < Nebukadneza> rxr: a old SPARCstation2 21:36 < rxr> Nebukadneza: oh - cool - just the thing that found a new place near my desk ... 21:37 < rxr> , too 21:37 < Nebukadneza> hehe 21:37 < Nebukadneza> i got it for 9Eur from somebody from the usenet *lol* 21:41 < Nebukadneza> rxr: what do you think wich distri is the best for a minimalistic ftp/http server? 21:42 < SMP> Nebukadneza: OpenBSD/sparc 21:43 < mnemoc> hi stefanp@pr.rocklinux.org =( 21:43 < Nebukadneza> bsd on sparc? 21:43 < Nebukadneza> hum 21:45 < rxr> Nebukadneza: ROCK too, when I found some time to setup the boot stuff ... - but hm - the S2 will not have a CD-ROM anway, or has yours' 21:45 < Nebukadneza> hope ... 21:45 < Nebukadneza> nope 21:45 < Nebukadneza> but i have a old extern scsi cd from sgi *G* 21:46 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091f59.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:47 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E1146D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:47 < mnemoc> where kernel modules not build by linux package should go? misc/ or the 'right' net/foo... ? 21:47 < tsa> hi all 21:47 < mnemoc> wb tsa 21:48 * netrunner catching up with inet after 1week no inet at home 21:50 < rxr> mnemoc: misc 21:50 < SMP> mnemoc: whereever you want - depending on the type of driver, but probably not under kernel/ 21:52 < tsa> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch bsd-games-2.14 | patch -p0 21:52 < tsa> tested. 21:54 < rxr> tsa: I reverted your dialog update - the new version sucks as hell 21:54 < tsa> hm...ok 21:54 < rxr> even leaves the terminal in a unuseful state after exit! 21:54 < tsa> ok, that's not too good. 21:56 < fake> Nebukadneza: did someone say SGI? 21:56 < Nebukadneza> jep 21:56 < Nebukadneza> :) 21:56 < rxr> tsa: bsd-games are at 2.14 ... 21:56 < Nebukadneza> and sun ... 21:57 < fake> Nebukadneza: just a CD-ROM or anything to connect it to from the same vendor? 21:58 < fake> rxr: mips32-eb static version of svn coming somewhen around the weekend 21:58 < Nebukadneza> lemme see ... i got a sgi monitor, a sgi mouse, a sgi keyboard ... no 2, a sgi scsi cddrive, and some AUI network adapters ... 2 crunched indys and a crunched indigo 21:58 < fake> rxr: mips32-el will have a longer delay... 21:59 < fake> Nebukadneza: echo $CRUNCHED 22:00 < rxr> Nebukadneza: maybe s.th. crunched you could donate? 22:00 < Nebukadneza> hehe 22:00 < rxr> fake: cool! 22:00 < fake> rxr: you are into PDAs? 22:00 < Nebukadneza> rxr: they are not mine ... not at all :) 22:01 < fake> rxr: i have that cassiopeia e-125 here and i damn can't get it to boot any kernel.. 22:01 < fake> rxr: mips vr4122 22:01 < fake> s,mips,nec, 22:01 < fake> of course it is mips ;) 22:01 < fake> it would be as fast as the challenge s mhz-wise *g* 22:02 < Nebukadneza> <-- loves anything else than x86 22:03 < rxr> fake: only occationally - I have a ARM powered PSION Revo here ... 22:03 < Nebukadneza> challenge -> kawaii 22:03 < rxr> Nebukadneza: you are not alone here ... 22:03 < Nebukadneza> huh? 22:03 < rxr> Nebukadneza: prefering everything nuz x86 ... 22:03 < Nebukadneza> ah 22:03 < Nebukadneza> ok 22:03 < Nebukadneza> hehe 22:03 < Nebukadneza> but the point is: 22:03 < rxr> s/nux/buz/ ... 22:04 * Nebukadneza got no money :( 22:04 < rxr> damn - anzway ... 22:04 < tsa> $ uname -m 22:04 < tsa> sun4u 22:04 < Nebukadneza> in holland there are 2 sgi origin 3200 for sell ... 10Usd each 22:04 < Nebukadneza> the got newer *G* 22:04 < tsa> how do you know? have an URL? 22:05 < Nebukadneza> no url 22:05 < Nebukadneza> but i can get the fone number 22:05 < tsa> hehe..no, thanks ;) 22:06 < SMP> holy fucking shit 22:06 < Nebukadneza> a brother of a friend of mine is ... dont know the word in english ... "spediteur" .. i think if i ... *G* 22:06 < Nebukadneza> huh? 22:07 < SMP> this linux on the s390 LPAR is unpacking linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2 sind this morning 22:07 < SMP> 'since this morning' 22:07 < tsa> just curious... you know anything about system specs and pricement? 22:07 < rxr> SMP: hae? 22:07 < Nebukadneza> tsa: @me? 22:07 < tsa> yes. 22:07 < Nebukadneza> if i want to i can ask ... 22:08 < SMP> ls -l build/default-2.0.0-rc2-s390-generic-expert/logs/build_target.log 22:08 < tsa> Nebukadneza: well, if you could get this information, just post a mail to the list...maybe someone is interested.. 22:08 < SMP> lrwxrwxrwx 1 scythe users 22 Sep 8 09:41 build/default-2.0.0-rc2-s390-generic-expert/logs/build_target.log -> build_target_14379.log 22:08 < SMP> $ tail -1 build/default-2.0.0-rc2-s390-generic-expert/logs/build_target.log 22:08 < SMP> Extracting the Linux Kernel Sources [2.4.22] ... 22:08 < Nebukadneza> i know that from a uncel of my mother ... he works in a serverpark anywhere by sindelfingen or something ... if anyone got such "crazy" new it is he! 22:08 < Nebukadneza> tsa: wtf? i want it *G* 22:08 < SMP> it's still running 22:09 < tsa> hehe 22:10 < SMP> ehm, of course it's also 22:10 < SMP> -rw-r--r-- 1 scythe users 7546 Sep 8 09:42 build/default-2.0.0-rc2-s390-generic-expert/logs/build_target_14379.log 22:10 < SMP> not just the symlink 22:11 < Nebukadneza> okay okay ... i would take a fuel or tezro too, but *G* 22:11 < Nebukadneza> thats a dream! 22:11 < SMP> hmm, something's not right - load 0.00, that bzip2 process doesn't seem to run at all 22:12 < fake> SMP: or it's infnitely nice ;) 22:13 < Nebukadneza> https://www.sgi.com/workstations/tezro/tech_specs.html wha ... this MUST be a dream! :) 22:14 < SMP> fake: no, not even IBM get infinity to fit into 31 bits ;) 22:14 < fake> SMP: *rofl* 22:14 < rxr> hehe - namesys is cool, from there 25$ answer thing: 22:14 < rxr> Your questions are answered by experienced Linux kernel programmers, so if you think the average experienced Linux kernel programmer can figure out your problem, whatever the problem is, ask us. We'll happily tell you how to compile a kernel, figure out what modules you have loaded, run fsck for you, whatever your business need is that a second person can help you spot a solution for, we'll help. 22:16 < fake> wow... and if you need a new driver, contact SCO? 22:16 < Nebukadneza> lol 22:16 < rxr> Nebukadneza: my 10 channel sound system is more advanced than the one in that SGI box ,-) 22:17 < rxr> oh - it is just an option ... 22:17 < Nebukadneza> a sgi is no box for sound ... graphics! 22:17 < SMP> rxr: but not half as leet ;) 22:18 < Nebukadneza> if you want good sound buy a G5 :) 22:18 < rxr> https://www.maudio.de/delta1010.htm 22:18 < rxr> ^- this one _is_ leet ... 22:19 < rxr> Nebukadneza: a G5 has not good sound - the DA convert sucks asses - and for multi-channel sound you need a external device - like the one above ... 22:19 < Nebukadneza> but for macs there are the best soundcards! 22:19 < rxr> but this G3 iBook is good enoguht for sound - and if I need s.th. Real an Athlon with the above card just rock ;) 22:20 < rxr> Nebukadneza: nope - any mac-able soundcard runs in Wintel boxes 22:20 < Nebukadneza> wintel? wtf? 22:20 < Nebukadneza> ah 22:20 < Nebukadneza> wintel 22:20 < Nebukadneza> *G* 22:20 < Nebukadneza> ok 22:21 < rxr> Nebukadneza: take a look at the above - that is one of the few leading multi-channel manufactures - the Delta 1010 is one of the advanced ones (ok - also alrady 2 years old ...) 22:21 < Nebukadneza> hm 22:21 < rxr> Nebukadneza: of course just as a "it works in them" - I, of course, run the card in ROCK GNU/Linux with GSMP ... 22:21 * Nebukadneza needs a acsess virus indigo 22:21 < Nebukadneza> :) 22:21 < Nebukadneza> i think a hardsynth is a better choose for producing trance/techno/etc. 22:23 < rxr> Nebukadneza: the topic was not abut synths - of course some synths fit onto the Deta 1010 - too sad most commercial PCI hard-synths do not run with Linux - but a selfmade DSP board is anyway more useable 22:23 < Nebukadneza> a selfmade dsp board? wtf? 22:23 < Nebukadneza> :) 22:24 < rxr> sure 22:24 < rxr> put 4 Motorola DSP onto a PCI board an of oyu go 22:25 < rxr> I need to create a new one - currently mine only has one DSP 56000 @33Mhz IIRC ... 22:25 < jsaw> re 22:25 < Nebukadneza> holy shit! 22:25 < rxr> hi jsaw 22:25 < jsaw> rxr: what about the xilinx with 4 powerpc cores? 22:26 < jsaw> (just out of curiosity) 22:26 < rxr> jsaw: have not taken a look recently - can be interesting ;) 22:26 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-36.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: the cure for the common client") 22:28 < jsaw> rxr: eg. https://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_prodcat_landingpage.jsp?title=Virtex-II+Pro+FPGAs 22:31 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 22:31 < jsaw> hi all btw 22:31 < rxr> ;-) hi jsaw 22:32 < rxr> jsaw: jups - when we play again with DSP we'll take a look at it 22:32 < jsaw> argl. mv matlab /dev/null... 22:33 < netrunner> nice: The perl on your system has serious bug in routine tell()! 22:33 < netrunner> (on that k6 build I mentioned on rlml) 22:33 < netrunner> n8 22:36 < rxr> jsaw: oh you have / use matlab ? 22:36 < rxr> (for Linux?) 22:36 < jsaw> rxr: yep, for Linux, yep. 22:36 < jsaw> I had to replace the java with 1.3.1 to get it to run on ROCK... 22:37 < jsaw> Now it's awfully slow. 22:47 < SMP> jsaw: did you use Sun's or have you tried Blackdown or IBM? 22:48 < jsaw> SMP: sun's 22:48 < SMP> yeah, that crashes. try the blackdown or IBM 1.4.1, they work fine for me 22:50 < jsaw> 1. it doesn't crash, it's only slower. 2. matlab came with java 1.0 or 1.1, 1.3 is the only one that still works and works with a symlink from libstdc++-libc6.2... to ...libc6.1... 22:50 < jsaw> ... 22:50 -!- Davitelj [Davitelj@212.62.44.198] has joined #rocklinux 22:51 < Davitelj> hi 22:51 < SMP> 1.1? gosh ... 22:51 < Davitelj> how to rsync rock linux isos 22:51 < Davitelj> ? 22:51 < Davitelj> what is the command line 22:51 < Davitelj> ? 22:51 < Davitelj> rene? 22:54 < rxr> Davitelj: yeah - hi 22:54 < Davitelj> hi 22:54 < rxr> Davitelj: why do you want to rsync ? have you an corrupted one? 22:54 < Davitelj> i've got old 2.00 camp version with bad boot loader 22:55 < rxr> Davitelj: you can find example commmands on the ML list - you can search in the ML ... 22:55 < Davitelj> ML=? 22:55 < rxr> Davitelj: and you want sync this defective ISO the the same -camp version? 22:55 < Davitelj> yes 22:55 < rxr> Davitelj: Mailing List 22:56 < rxr> Davitelj: e.g. 22:56 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net:80/lurker/message/20030617.183735.2bcba249.html 23:02 -!- Davitelj [Davitelj@212.62.44.198] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:02 < jsaw> cu a bit l8r again 23:04 -!- nisma [~nisma@host230-96.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:07 < rxr> cu jsaw 23:24 < fake> "Ich glaube nicht an die Existenz von Teppichen" 23:26 < rxr> ah ja 23:26 < fake> motd ;) 23:29 < rxr> me doign suspend tests on the iBook - su 23:29 < tsa> cu 23:29 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E1146D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 23:31 < rxr> ok - back 23:31 < rxr> needs to compile a bit more ... --- Log closed Thu Sep 11 00:00:15 2003