--- Log opened Thu Sep 11 00:00:15 2003
00:24 < fake> *rofl* motd: "Ach, sie sagten Teppich? Ich verstand 'Buddah'"
00:29 < daja77> hi fake what funny things you are reading
00:30 < fake> daja77: hi
00:31 < daja77> :)
00:32 < fake> http://www.newaeon.de/newaeon/index.php?act=view_location&location_id=7222
00:35 < daja77> hmm
00:35 < fake> http://www.orldtra.de/
00:35 < fake> was fuer eine kacke
00:39 < daja77> ahem where do you get such strange pages
00:39 < fake> google?
00:40 < daja77> oh yeah :)
00:56 < daja77> well i shouldn't have wasted my time helping suse luser, instead of working on rock
00:56 < daja77> anyway, I go to bed now
00:56 < daja77> cu
00:56 < fake> n8!
00:56 < daja77> sounds like an order ...
00:58 < fake> http://images33.zyn.de/ic/07/54/02273778689.png
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01:14 < fake> n8
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02:03 < Pyro> hi all
02:03 < Pyro> ping cchamilt
02:42 * Freak just threw out his chip/pcwelt-volumes since '97
02:43 < Freak> at least 90.000kilos of paper.
02:43 < Freak> *sweat*
02:45 < Ge0rG> you could've sold them on ebay ;)
02:48 < Freak> noone buys that shit.
02:48 < Freak> that was why I kept them so long.
02:48 < Freak> I was going to sell them on some fleamarket
02:49 < Freak> but.. instead they just turned my room into a garbage can
02:49 < Freak> now I finally got rid of them.
02:50 * Ge0rG has one or two "happy computer" volumes from '89
02:51 < Freak> geee I couldn't even read then ;)
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07:06 < holyolli> moin
07:13 < blindcoder> moin
07:13 < holyolli> huhu blindcoder
07:15 < __mnemoc> moin holyolli, blindcoder 
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07:15 < holyolli> hi mnemoc
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07:25 * holyolli is going to school...cu l8ter
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09:44 * netrunner now pirated the company's proxy :)
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09:44 < DeElsasser> moin
09:49 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:49 < blindcoder> netrunner: took you long enough :-)
09:49 < blindcoder> netrunner: hi btw :-)
09:54 < netrunner> blindcoder: yeah, I had no internet since I updated to rock last week :/
09:54 < netrunner> blindcoder: now I am tweaking all the services I want to work as I expect.
09:56 < netrunner> most annoying problem seems to be that empty dirs (for logfiles) are not packed into the gems and I need to create them by hand.
09:58 < blindcoder> hrm... sucks
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10:20 < esden> morning *
10:20 < blindcoder> moin moin
10:21 < nisma> hi
10:27 < esden> hi nisma 
10:27 < esden> ok /me off for uni
10:27 < esden> cu l8er
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10:54 < netrunner> hm ... what is esden doing at the uni, did I miss something?
10:55 < blindcoder> netrunner: stealing bandwidth
10:55 < blindcoder> illegally breathing air
10:56 < blindcoder> building my world-domination machine
10:56 < blindcoder> or something like that :)
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11:19 < daja77> moin
11:40 < netrunner> hi daja77 
11:42 < daja77> moin netrunner 
11:48 < blindcoder> ah, it's so funny to come back to work and see that all the old errors are still not fixed
11:54 < daja77> hehe, how?, you have not been there ...
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11:58 * daja77 now off, lunch
12:01 < blindcoder> daja77: well, I've beenat work 3 weeks ago, and I'm at work now...
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12:10 < dennis> owl: ping
12:42 < blindcoder> graphical administration tools suck
12:43 < daja77> blindcoder: please tell this to esden ;-)
12:44 < blindcoder> daja77: why?
12:45 < daja77> hmm can't tell you, just think you should say it to him ^^
12:45 < blindcoder> ehm...
12:45 < blindcoder> do I WANT to know why?
12:45 < daja77> no
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12:45 < blindcoder> okay... good.
12:46 < blindcoder> then I won't ask
12:46 < daja77> hehe
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14:27 < owl> dennis: pong
14:27 < owl> moin all
14:27 < blindcoder> moin moin
14:32 < owl> hi blindy
14:32 < owl> .oO(mephisto is funny, btw *g*)
15:04 * blindcoder going home
15:04 < owl> bye blindcoder 
15:10 < __mnemoc> re all
15:12 < owl> hi __mnemoc 
15:16 < __mnemoc> hi happyowl
15:16 < owl> __mnemoc: *kick* ;p
15:24 < owl> <-- off for learning.bbl
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16:13 * [anders] is a) shocked, b) pissed off and c) sad...
16:18 < [anders]> Sweden, and Europe, has lost a valuable politician today.. Anna Lindh will be missed and the world will be a worse place without her. I might not have agreed with her on various things, but she had my respect.
16:24 < Freak> [anders]: I didn't even know her before this happened but I felt very sad when I heard this first, too. and of course now that she died.
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16:27 < [anders]> Freak: what makes me angry is that she was a very prominent politician in the EMU debate in Sweden, and the secret police deemed there being 'no increased threat' against her, and ordinary police was not told she had been attached until they saw it on the news more than three hours later...
16:28 < Freak> omg. :|
16:29 < Freak> when they had it in the news today, they said swedish polititians didn't have bodyguards so they would be close to the people. that makes it even more sad.
16:29 < [anders]> Yes, parallels can be drawn with 1986, when Olof Palme was assassinated. (Incidentally, Anna Lindh was attacked less than 500m away from where Palme was shot dead)
16:30 < [anders]> Freak: bodyguards should not be needed most of the time, but this was 4 days before the whole country goes to vote on a very politically charged subject..
16:31 < [anders]> Sweden has a very open society, you can actually talk to politicians if you meet them on the streets. That makes it easier everybody, but there is still no reason to be stupid about it.. It makes me so angry..
16:35 < Nebukadneza> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)" ... was kann ich da machen?
16:35 < Nebukadneza> ups
16:35 < Nebukadneza> sorry
16:35 < Nebukadneza> wrong channel
16:41 < Freak> [anders]: what particularly makes me sad.. when I heard it first, I was shocked. but then they said she was not in a lifethreat tho it was serious.
16:44 < esden> fsck ... I have to go to uni tomorrow too ... >_<
16:44 < esden> hi all so by the way ;)
16:48 < esden> ok ... /me off home
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16:58 < __mnemoc> rxr: will rl-consulting have a flist search engine? ;)
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17:25 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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17:51 < daja77> re
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18:25 < drz> hi
18:25 < drz> has anybody here succesfully created a usb memory stick distro (16mb or smaller)
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18:26 < holyolli> moin
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18:45 < esden> hi ho my friends
18:46 < daja77> hiho esden 
18:46 < holyolli> huhu esden
18:46 < esden> drz: not yet but you can create one easily with ROCK ;)
18:46 < daja77> esden: would bootdisk fit into that category?
18:47 < esden> daja77: humm I do not know how big is stage2 (the big one)
18:47 < daja77> dunno
18:47 < esden> but on the basis of that one could create such a small usb stick distro
18:48 * daja77 wants to create such a distro for use on multimedia cdroms
18:49 < rxr> the normal stage2 is 50MB
18:49 < rxr> (decompressed)
18:49 < daja77> ouch
18:49 < esden> ouch
18:50 < holyolli> and and me got a 1.5 install down to 36meg...
18:50 < holyolli> tsa even... =)
18:50 < esden> rxr: and compressed?
18:50 < esden> one could put it in compressed form on the usb stick
18:53 < rxr> erhm 19MB or so ...
18:54 < rxr> one could also work on it a bit to make it fit ...
18:54 < daja77> what makes it so huge?
18:56 < esden> daja77: glibc ;)
18:57 < daja77> hehe thought of that too
18:58 < rxr> kernel modules mostly ...
18:59 < rxr> oopf /etc/services is huge - 600kB
19:00 < daja77> hmm ok guess there is a good chance to reduce it, cos not that much modules are needed on multimedia stuff
19:07 < drz> hmmm
19:07 < drz> need to run bye
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19:08 < esden> *headshake*
19:11 * -> esden testing the cvs version of dietlibc 
19:11 < rxr> rehi all btw.
19:11 < esden> rehi rxr ;)
19:11 < esden> *hug* 
19:11 < esden> *gg*
19:11 * -> esden is really in good mood today
19:12 < rxr> esden: just phoned with regina or so?
19:12 * daja77 hugs esden 
19:13 < esden> no yesterday ... but I will call her today do not worry 
19:13 < esden> ;)
19:18 < esden> ./miniperl -Ilib configpm configpm.tmp
19:18 < esden> sh mv-if-diff configpm.tmp lib/Config.pm
19:18 < esden> weeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
19:19 < esden> *jumparound*
19:19 < esden> it works it works it works !!!
19:19 < esden> weeeeeeehoooooo
19:19 < esden> I need to party!!!
19:19 < esden> weeeeehooooo
19:19 < esden> chakkkaaaa
19:19 < daja77> esden: let's go out ;-)
19:20 < esden> rxr: we have to party when I am in berlin ;)
19:20 < daja77> rock release party?
19:21 < esden> no ... perl compiles on dietlibc party ;)
19:21 < rxr> esden: *;-)*
19:22 < esden> that is sooooooooo cool
19:22 * -> esden writes fefe an email 
19:22 < daja77> esden: yeah to release 0.23
19:30 < esden> daja77: ack
19:30 < esden> or at least create cvs snapshots 
19:31 < daja77> nah he once said he release when he likes to, or too much people got on his nerves to do so
19:32 < esden> so I go on his nerves ;)
19:32 < daja77> yepp ;-)
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19:40 < fake> hi
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19:41 < daja77> hehe
19:41 < daja77> hi fake 
19:41 < esden> hi fake !
19:41 < Freak> hi daja77, fake, everyone :)
19:42 < esden> hi Freak 
19:42 < Freak> esden! my favourite rocker!
19:42 < Freak> uhm besides all you other guys ;)
19:43 < daja77> :(
19:43 < esden> hehe ... thank you very much Freak 
19:43 < Freak> all of you are my favourite rockers!!
19:43 < Freak> really!
19:44 < Freak> daja77: you too!
19:44 < daja77> hehe
19:45 < esden> it is compiling compiling ...
19:45 < Freak> ... and compiling again
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19:48 < esden> ok ... another error occuring ... 
19:48 < esden> but that is not that fscking segfault ...
19:51 < fake> stone via 9600 baud serial terminal... yuck ;)
19:53 < Freak> hahahaha :)
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19:57 * fake wants some of clifford's 'mozartkugeln'
19:57 < rxr> so - just fixed a bug in my LISP based mail reader ...
19:57 < Freak> hehe
19:57 < rxr> first real LISP contacn *brrrr*
19:58 < daja77> hehe
20:01 < esden> rxr: and how did you like it?
20:01 < rxr> it is not worser than C ...
20:02 < rxr> esden: I hope you know that I do not like C (especially the way many hobbists rape it) very much ...
20:02 < daja77> worse, there is no word worser
20:02 < rxr> daja77: thanks
20:02 < daja77> np
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20:03 < esden> rxr: humm ... *no comment* ;)
20:06 * daja77 just found a horrible package
20:07 < daja77> it is written in C, perl and java
20:07 * daja77 chokes
20:07 < Freak> hehe :)
20:12 < fake> daja77: there is
20:12 < fake> daja77: worst, esden, fake
20:12 < fake> ;)
20:12 < daja77> hm?
20:12 < fake> bad -> worse -> worst -> esden -> fake
20:13 < daja77> hehe, ok got it
20:13 < esden> hmm ... and what is beyond fake?
20:14 < fake> fake is the worst ... hehe
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20:15 < esden> and in the other direction? good -> better -> ???
20:15 < rxr> daja77: what is so bad of using different tools
20:15 < daja77> in one program
20:15 < rxr> daja77: the next toolchain of GSMP will also utilize Perl for some automated module code checking code ...
20:16 < fake> good -> better -> best -> mips *g*
20:16 < rxr> and bison for some parser jobs ...
20:16 < daja77> bison is c too
20:16 < daja77> but java
20:16 < fake> java is not evil
20:16 < rxr> even multiple bison generated parsers in one program where we need to use sed on the generated code to make multiple instances useable in one application ...
20:16 < daja77> but worse, hehe
20:17 < fake> pwd
20:17 < fake> >_<
20:17 < daja77> hehe
20:17 < Freak> boy.. anna lindh has two sons.
20:17 < rxr> bison uses a format descriptoin language and this is not C - only the output is ...
20:18 < Freak> this is so sad.
20:18 < Freak> I wonder what sweden is going to vote like now
20:19 < Freak> and they still dont have the guy who stabbed her
20:19 * fake off for some social interaction
20:19 < fake> bye
20:19 < Freak> cu
20:19 < esden> uh oh ... social interaction and fake
20:19 < fake> esden: non-sexual :P
20:19 < esden> have fun fake 
20:19 * blindcoder back from training
20:19 < esden> fake: I was not thinking of that
20:19 < esden> lol
20:19 < fake> aye, having fun as ordered!
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20:19 < esden> *GG*
20:19 < esden> rofl
20:20 < esden> re blindcoder !!!
20:20 < esden> *hug*
20:20 < blindcoder> esden: *rehug* you finally noticed me again after two days! WEE!
20:20 < esden> o_O
20:20 < esden> we missed each other all the time ...
20:20 < blindcoder> ehm... not really
20:20 < blindcoder> you talked, I hi'd you continued to talk *snif*
20:21 < esden> then I was probably in a discussion that absorbed all my concentration ... sorry
20:21 * blindcoder kicks esden
20:21 < blindcoder> ah, now I feel better :)
20:22 < esden> ouch ... that hurts!
20:22 < esden> thank you rrrrrrrrr
20:23 < blindcoder> rarr!
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20:24 * blindcoder preparing for billiard
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20:37 < rammi> hi.
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21:17 < daja77> rxr: btw i know bison ;-) studying compiler construction has its benefits 
21:18 < A-Tui> hola daja77
21:18 < daja77> hola A-Tui 
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21:54 * blindcoder back
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22:11 < rxr> re
22:12 < daja77> wb rxr
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22:33 < rxr> hi martin_ 
22:33 < martin_> hello rxr
22:33 < martin_> hi all
22:35 < martin_> rxr: What's up?
22:35 < rxr> martin_: hm?
22:35 < rxr> martin_: what's up with what?
22:36 < martin_> rxr: is not like 'wie geht's?' ?
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22:37 < rxr> martin_: nice screenshot ... - I need to package karamba ...
22:38 < rxr> martin_: do you know about the plastik theme I packaged?
22:39 < martin_> rxr: plastik theme? no, I don't
22:39 < martin_> know
22:39 < rxr> try it ...
22:40 < martin_> where i can find it?
22:42 < martin_> rxr: Ups, Oliver is sending signed mails with diff-files. *wonder*
22:43 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/powerpc/pkgs/
22:45 < rxr> esden: are you around?
22:48 < rxr> martin_: do you mind if I use the screenshot on www.rocklinux-consulting.de ?
22:48 < rxr> martin_: is this the default superkaramba configuraton or hand-crafted?
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22:49 < Pyro> yo.
22:50 < martin_> rxr: the topbar is changes by me.
22:50 < rxr> hi Pyro 
22:50 < martin_> rxr: hmm, yes, the screenshot is free 
22:53 < Pyro> martin_: nice wall papers
22:53 < Pyro> rxr: hello
22:54 < martin_> Pyro: thanks. There are also gimp-files, when anyone change some thinks
22:54 < Pyro> sounds good.
22:54 < esden> re hi all
22:54 < esden> rxr: ?
22:55 < rxr> committing fat .cache file patch ...
22:55 < Pyro> esden.
22:55 < esden> Pyro.
22:57 < esden> hmm ... fefe is slow in answering e-mails ... >_<
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23:12 < martin_> rxr: plastik look very nice, thanks
23:14 < rxr> martin_: good
23:15 < rxr> martin_: which karamba are you using? this one: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/
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23:20 < owl> remoin
23:21 < martin__> re
23:21 < martin__> rxr: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7743
23:21 < martin__> rxr: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=karamba
23:22 < martin__> rxr: but, this version is for 1280 pixel.
23:23 < Pyro> owl: hi, may the dark side be with you.
23:24 < owl> hi Pyro - Mike1? ;)
23:24 < Pyro> who else?
23:24 < owl> dunno 
23:24 < daja77> hi Pyro 
23:25 < owl> how are you, Miguel?
23:25 < Pyro> owl: unfortunately alive, and you ?
23:25 < Pyro> hi daja77
23:26 < owl> Pyro: hm. alive too... (more or less... if you can call this status being "alive" after about 7 hours of learning)
23:26 < esden> owl: what are you learning?
23:26 < Pyro> owl: i've been there before, believe me you will survive
23:27 < rxr> martin__: uhm - you ripped out the girl out of the theme ...
23:28 < owl> esden: for my final exams which are in may... 
23:29 < Pyro> may.. 
23:29 < owl> yes - may.
23:29 < Pyro> owl there is plenty of time..
23:29 < owl> have to read 19 books and writing a collection of crap out of those books... and then really have to learn...
23:30 < Pyro> lots of fun on your nightmare 
23:30 < owl> yes... but i want to have _better_ marks - not good...
23:30 < owl> hoeh?
23:30 < Pyro> i mean learning :)
23:30 < owl> ah so. *g* thx ;p
23:30 < martin__> rxr: He he. Sadly, it is not in the package. You have mail.
23:30 < owl> (but - it is quite ok... i missed it a bit)
23:43 < rxr> martin__: complain at the author ...
23:46 -!- [CTG]Wibra [wibra@D5E0A798.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #rocklinux
23:46 < [CTG]Wibra> can i ask newb questions about rocklinux here?
23:46 < martin__> rxr: why complain?
23:46 < rxr> about the missing picture
23:46 < martin__> [CTG]Wibra: yes ...
23:47 < martin__> rxr: lol
23:48 < [CTG]Wibra> thank you. i've been trying to get it to work on a scsi-only system, with a non-partitioned scsi-hd. It didn't work. Is it me or rocklinux?
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23:48 < rxr> wow - I communicate with a woman in .ve which is admin - and using OS/2 and using 400 (!!!!) HP scanners with my SANE/Avision backend
23:48 * rxr is impressed
23:48 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: you need to 
23:48 < rxr> be more specific about "does not work" ...
23:48 < [CTG]Wibra> ok
23:48 < Freak> what is .ve?
23:48 < __mnemoc> 400 scanners???
23:48 < __mnemoc> venezuela
23:48 < Freak> venez.. ok
23:49 < __mnemoc> at the north shore of south america
23:50 < Freak> yes I know :)
23:50 < rxr> __mnemoc: in the last mail I asked here what company that is ...
23:51 < [CTG]Wibra> the bootloader just doesnt work. my scsi bios recognises the bootable cd, it starts it, but it hangs at the first line
23:51 < rxr> __mnemoc: http://www.telcel.net.ve/
23:52 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: oh - that is an early does not work ...
23:52 < [CTG]Wibra> :)
23:52 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: this is some syslinux / isolinux issue - damn
23:52 < Pyro> cu all
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23:52 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: how old is the machine? (e.g. CPU type?)
23:52 < [CTG]Wibra> p2-400 
23:53 < [CTG]Wibra> dell mobo
23:53 < [CTG]Wibra> scsi adapter is qlogic 12160
23:54 < [CTG]Wibra> anyways, i tried it with an ide drive in the meanwhile
23:54 < [CTG]Wibra> it runs
23:54 < [CTG]Wibra> i load the scsi module, but seeing no 12160, i selected 1280
23:54 < [CTG]Wibra> when i run stone, it doesn't find a harddrive
23:55 -!- martin__ is now known as martin_
23:55 < rxr> was the 12i60 module loaded correctly? 
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23:55 < rxr> are devices listed in /proc/scsi/scsi ?
23:55 < [CTG]Wibra> hang on
23:57 < [CTG]Wibra> ... i was trying the scsi setup again so have to reinstall ide and modify bios and such
23:59 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I'n just phoning - might take some time until I respond again - I hope you have some free minutes ...
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