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01:07 < daja77> nobody here?
01:12 < cytrinox_> doch
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01:15 < link_> jemand n 1on1 ut insta? mit server?
01:18 < daja77> hugh?
01:18 < daja77> huh, sorry
01:20 < daja77> could you please repeat your question?
01:22 < link_> sorry, i ment another irc-server
01:23 < link_> this was a '/amsg' message..
01:23 < daja77> hehe, which language was that?
01:29 < link_> denglish
01:29 < link_> germenglish
01:31 < daja77> hehe ;-)
01:31 < link_> it's the question: does anyone want to play a one-on-one unreal tournament - instagib game? please only the ones who have a server..
01:31 * daja77 thought this could have been swiss german
01:31 < link_> no, in swissgerman it would be like this:
01:32 < link_> will irgendoeber e 1on1 gayme? nummae diae mit server!
01:32 < daja77> rofl
01:33 < link_> ;)
01:33 * daja77 not trained in swiss german ...
01:35 * daja77 goes to bed
01:35 < link_> doesn't matter.. if everyone would speak swissgerman, no secretagent could use it as secure-language anymore... 
01:35 < daja77> cu
01:36 < daja77> yepp
01:36 < link_> have a nice sleep daja =)
01:36 < daja77> <- speaker of standard german :)
01:36 < link_> that's good also =)
01:36 < daja77> <- speaker of saxonian germ :^)
01:37 < link_> there are definatly more german than swissgerman speakers
01:37 < daja77> german
01:37 < link_> i prefer the bayrish one =)
01:37 < daja77> hehe
01:37 < link_> jo geh mai .. 
01:37 * daja77 from saxony ...
01:37 < link_> pfiati gott
01:38 < SMP> almost anything is ok as long as it's not Schäbisch
01:38 < daja77> lol
01:38 < daja77> ack
01:38 < link_> yeah?
01:38 < SMP> make me want to kill the speaker instantly
01:38 < daja77> rofl
01:38 < link_> *g*
01:39 < link_> i hoal no moa a bia und ess mai schweins hoxxn ..
01:39 < SMP> schwoans ?
01:39 < daja77> at this time, urgs
01:39 < daja77> SMP: scheins
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01:39 < daja77> schweins
01:39 < tsa> hi all.
01:39 < daja77> hi tsa
01:39 < link_> schwoans hoaxn .. stimmt, buascht ...!
01:40 < daja77> oh my, all joining, when i am about to go
01:40 < link_> hi tsa
01:40 < SMP> tsa: do you speak Schäbisch?
01:40 < daja77> .oO
01:40 < tsa> no.
01:40 < link_> thank god ,)
01:40 < SMP> that's good. I'd have to kill you otherwise ;>
01:40 < daja77> so SMP has no reason to kill you
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01:41 < link_> *g*
01:41 < tsa> hehe
01:41 < SMP> I should go. cu
01:41 < daja77> me too
01:41 < daja77> cu 
01:41 < tsa> cu SMP, daja77
01:42 < tsa> damn, i hate xfree.
01:44 < [CTG]Wibra> !seen rxr
01:45 < link_> bye daja77
01:45 < link_> =)
01:45 < link_> bye SMP
01:45 < [CTG]Wibra> anybody else any experience with qla12160 (scsi) drivers ?
01:45 < link_> hmm, i'm searching some nice pix for my shortcuts on the desktop ..
01:46 < link_> no [CTG]Wibra sorry
01:46 < [CTG]Wibra> to be expected :)
01:47 < link_> don't care about me, i'm a newbie =)
01:47 < [CTG]Wibra> could anyone compile a driver for me ?
01:47 < [CTG]Wibra> i'm still in install fase of rocklinux :(
01:48 < link_> i don't even have rocklinux..
01:48 < link_> installed..
01:48 < [CTG]Wibra> :) so what you're doing here then
01:49 < link_> donno ,)
01:49 < link_> hangin' around a littl bit ?
01:49 < [CTG]Wibra> "goe bezig" they would say in my region
01:49 < link_> what does that mean ?
01:50 < [CTG]Wibra> i can't translate right away, thinking
01:50 < [CTG]Wibra> it means something like putting you're thumb up, giving a wink and smiling, in a very ironic way
01:51 < link_> i wanted to use rocklinux some time ago .. but then i saw another distro, wich has a great portage system, like freebsd =) and i love freebsd.. if i could play games  on freebsd , i'd be really happy, but , that's live, nothings easy =p
01:51 < link_> -v+f
01:51 < [CTG]Wibra> or easier v=f
01:51 < [CTG]Wibra> you would make a bad programmer :p
01:52 < [CTG]Wibra> just play linuxgames :)
01:52 < link_> yeah ,) the compiler had more problems with me, than i with him ..
01:53 < link_> or 'me with him' ? hmm
01:53 < link_> i hate my english ..
01:54 < [CTG]Wibra> the first was correct
01:54 < [CTG]Wibra> think logical and you find the answer
01:54 < [CTG]Wibra> "than i with him" is short for "than i have with him"
01:54 < [CTG]Wibra> eh voila
01:54 < [CTG]Wibra> simple comme bonjour
01:54 < [CTG]Wibra> oder bist du germanisch
01:55 < link_> schon wieder einer der alle sprachen kann.. ai ai ai
01:55 < link_> wieviel gibts da noch ?
01:55 < [CTG]Wibra> meinen deutsch is nicht so gut :D
01:55 < [CTG]Wibra> (thats about all i can say)
01:56 < link_> *g*
01:56 < [CTG]Wibra> niederlandich
01:56 < [CTG]Wibra> fransosisch
01:56 < [CTG]Wibra> how you say english in german
01:56 < [CTG]Wibra> "anglosisch" :)
01:57 < link_> englisch ?
01:57 < [CTG]Wibra> no way?
01:57 < link_> yeah
01:57 < [CTG]Wibra> i thought it was some illogical word
01:57 < link_> just put the damn 'c' there ,)
01:57 < [CTG]Wibra> like the french word for german
01:57 < [CTG]Wibra> "allemand"
01:57 < link_> Franzoesisch
01:58 < link_> *g*
01:58 < [CTG]Wibra> well, i always cheated on my german tests
01:58 < [CTG]Wibra> datif, genitif, .... the hell with it
01:58 < [CTG]Wibra> ich du er/sie/es
01:59 < link_> genitifwhat? *g* i never learned this shite ,D
01:59 < [CTG]Wibra> well, that's because it's natural to you i guess
01:59 < [CTG]Wibra> its like, you can say "mein" but also "meines"
02:00 < [CTG]Wibra> in english, all there is, is "mine"
02:00 < link_> hm, it also can be yours ... =P
02:00 < [CTG]Wibra> thats what i said, it's mine
02:00 < [CTG]Wibra> :p
02:00 < link_> *laughts*
02:01 < link_> i understood =)
02:01 < [CTG]Wibra> :)
02:02 < [CTG]Wibra> all in all, german shouldn't be so hard for a belgian, but i just don't have it in me i guess
02:02 < [CTG]Wibra> or had bad teacher for it
02:02 < link_> belgian ?
02:02 < [CTG]Wibra> ich bin aus flandern, in belgien
02:02 < link_> *g*
02:02 < link_> flandern =)
02:02 < [CTG]Wibra> not correct?
02:03 < link_> flandern hoert sich witzig an
02:03 < link_> aber gut =)
02:03 < [CTG]Wibra> witzig?
02:03 < link_> funny
02:03 < [CTG]Wibra> ah :)
02:03 < link_> i have to go ..
02:03 < [CTG]Wibra> okelidokeli
02:03 < link_> someone pocke on the window
02:03 < [CTG]Wibra> poke back
02:04 < link_> damn unemployers *lol*
02:04 < link_> always want mone7
02:04 < link_> y
02:04 < [CTG]Wibra> :)
02:04 < link_> *laugts*
02:04 < link_> bye
02:04 < [CTG]Wibra> bye
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03:01 < [CTG]Wibra> :cry: rxr's not here
03:01 < [CTG]Wibra> ohwell, tomorow's an other day
03:04 < [CTG]Wibra> the sun will shine.. tomorrow
03:05 < [CTG]Wibra> tomorrow tomorrow, i love you, tomorrow
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03:31 < Pyro> re
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05:12 < [CTG]Wibra> wb
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06:50 < rxr> re
06:50 < rxr> damn
06:51 < acm_kiki> hi all
06:51 < acm_kiki> rxr, how was the nfs server today?
06:51 < Freak> good morning
06:53 < Freak> rxr: I had no time to install rock yet, I think I might have some time tonight or tomorrow, I'll notify you of my experiences then, ok?
06:54 < acm_kiki> Freak, what time is? here are 00.50 or something like that
06:55 < Freak> its +6hrs
06:55 < rxr> Freak: nice
06:56 < rxr> hm - I wonder why my server rebooted around 0:00 ...
06:56 < rxr> 0:11 to be precise ...
06:57 < rxr> strange
06:57 < Freak> Sa Sep 13 06:56:11 CEST 2003
06:57 < Freak> that is the _exact_ local time :)
06:57 < Freak> (just updated it from a timeserver)
06:58 < rxr> "just upated" - no ntpd running?
06:58 < Freak> well actually yes but it doesnt update by itself
07:01 < rxr> ?
07:01 < rxr> Freak: www.rocklinux-consulting.de as some more content ...
07:01 < rxr> but sill far form finished ...
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08:26 < Freak> rxr: ?
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08:26 < x2z> hi
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08:36 < rxr> Freak: yes
08:36 < rxr> a Freak sorry - to early in the morning
08:36 < rxr> a I mismathced you ... - sorry
08:37 < rxr> oO(all those nicks starting with Fr and beeing so short ...)
08:41 < Freak> rxr: :)) I almost thought you wanted to tell me somthing with this website :)
08:43 < rxr> nope ...
08:43 < rxr> but this might be ineresting:
08:43 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/oss/macosd/
08:44 < Freak> yup already saw that one
08:46 < Freak> I'll check back on it later tho.
08:47 < rxr> It will get configuration possiblities, evkeyd support (the author spoke to be ...) and anti-aliased fotns as well as pseudo-transparency soon ...
08:51 < Freak> *justsawthesite* oh nice!
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10:26 < blindcoder> AARRGGHH
10:26 < blindcoder> PARENTS!
10:30 * rxr just testing mailman in thy
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12:47 < daja77> moin
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13:08 < blindcoder> finally a working dosemu again
13:08 < blindcoder> they broke it somewhere between 1.1.4.0 and 1.1.5.0
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13:45 < rxr> hm - quite silent today ...
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13:49 < rxr> hehe:
13:49 < rxr> +  Reiser4 is more than twice as fast for both reads and writes as
13:49 < rxr> +  ReiserFS.  That means it is four times as fast as NTFS by Microsoft.
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14:24 < owl> moin
14:34 < rxr> moin owl 
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14:41 < owl> hi rxr , [CTG]Wibra 
14:41 < [CTG]Wibra> morning
14:42 < [CTG]Wibra> *yawn*
14:42 * owl hits the yawning [CTG]Wibra with a book
14:43 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: at linuxhq is a 2.3 version of the vicious qla1280 driver. but i don't have a c-compiler :(
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14:44 < jsaw> re
14:44 < jsaw> hi all
14:44 < owl> moin jsaw 
14:44 < jsaw> tach owl
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15:00 < jtracy> does anyone know how to configure the WPC11 ver. 4 wireless card from Linksys on Redhat so that the OS recognizes the device
15:03 < jtracy> Ok then does anyone know what the Best Wireless Card is for RedHat 9.0.  What card can I toss in and have the OS pick it up without having to do much configuring
15:03 < rxr> hi jsaw 
15:03 < jsaw> hi rxr
15:04 < rxr> jsaw: erhm - sorry we are no RedHat support forum ...
15:05 < jsaw> oh, really, sorry.
15:05 < jtracy> that ok, do you know where I should go to get this info
15:05 < rxr> jtracy: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
15:05 < rxr> jsaw: I meant jtracy ...
15:05 < jtracy> thank you
15:05 < rxr> or:
15:05 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/support.html
15:08 < rxr> jsaw: ;-)
15:08 < rxr> jsaw: I face-lifted and updated the regression tester a bit:
15:08 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/
15:08 < rxr> it now does diagnostic guessing on the buld error log ;-)
15:11 < jsaw> looks good!
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15:40 < rxr> hi tcr 
15:41 < tcr> moin rxr
15:43 < rxr> tcr: the regression tester has just finished it's facelift - and includes diagnostigs in the error list:
15:43 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/
15:44 < tcr> looks good
15:45 < tcr> I'll take a closer look later
15:45 < tcr> I've been configuring my system for the last 2 hours, and now it's time for gvim (which will take another 2hours I guess)
15:46 < tcr> rxr: I wonder why xchat sources gnome-2.conf and gets installed in /opt/gnome2/* that's why... Do you think that's right?
15:53 < rxr> I think this is the way it should be ...
15:55 < tcr> Hmm, Ok
15:56 < rxr> where should an application utilizing the gnome2 framework installed be?
15:56 < jsaw> tcr: xchat is officially part of gnome-desktop
15:56 < jsaw> so is gnomemeeting, which is currently in kasc's repo.
15:58 < tcr> It doesn't matter much anyway, since deinstallation is fairly simple with the flists
15:58 < jsaw> would somebody mind if I remove the version number extensions on the package names in the gnome-repository?
15:58 < rxr> jsaw: when introduced it was meant to support multiple gnome versions in the tree ...
15:59 < rxr> like gnome22 and gnome24 ...
15:59 < rxr> during the transition period ...
15:59 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr:  *insert whining here*
15:59 < rxr> yeah - hi
15:59 < [CTG]Wibra> :)
16:00 < jsaw> well, then at least this way, example: libgda08 -> libgda22 and libgda24
16:00 < jsaw> for gnome-2.2 and gnome-2.4 resp.
16:00 < jsaw> ?
16:00 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I do not have much time today - I wanted to do some baic organization here and there and am of to a birthday party at my girlfirnd's sister ...
16:01 < rxr> jsaw: ?
16:01 < [CTG]Wibra> roger. see you an other time
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16:02 < jsaw> rxr: having a package like libgda08 won't tell me, if it relates to gnome-2.2 or 2.4. At least the version extension should be according to the gnome version.
16:02 < jsaw> IMO
16:03 < rxr> no, IMO not. A package should always reflect the version number this single package is at ...
16:04 < jsaw> but then you have to update the directory name always the version changes... come on!
16:04 < tcr> Hmm. Ok, this shows us that we need another namespace way for Build-Pkg & co
16:04 < tcr> something like ./scripts/Build-Pkg gnome2.2/libgda
16:04 < jsaw> well, that's for 2.1/discussion
16:05 < jsaw> I guess...
16:05 < tcr> Yes, it's matter for the "multiple versions of one pkg" issue :)
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16:06 < rxr> jsaw: yes
16:06 < rxr> this is 2.1
16:07 < jsaw> but, how to handle it NOW. Again the example of libgda08. If I update, the package will be called libgda090-0.90.0-whatever.gem...
16:07 < jsaw> libgda24-0.90.0 is far better IMO
16:08 < rxr> jsaw: then do it so
16:08 < tcr> but it's ambigous(sp?)
16:08 < tcr> gnome{2.4,2.2}_libgda maybe?
16:09 < rxr> we do not want this special characters in the package name ...
16:09 < tcr> no underscore ??
16:09 < mnemoc> no dots :)
16:09 < tcr> Hmpf
16:10 < rxr> no {} () <> ?!"'°^'`=/<|
16:10 < tcr> gnome{2.4,2.2}_libgda <- {x,y} as in braces expansion of sh
16:10 < rxr> no :;#üöäÜÖÄ@?ø
16:10 < mnemoc> hi all :)
16:11 < rxr> tcr: ah ...
16:11 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
16:11 < rxr> tcr: also noack - the real package name should at least be first - and the gnome make the name unecessarily long ...
16:14 < mnemoc> gnome22/libgda08 gnome24/libgda ?
16:15 < jsaw> maybe that's even better, rxr?
16:16 < jsaw> we're going to remove the 08 anyway, sooner or later... an there will be no gnome26 the next 6 month...
16:16 < rxr> jsaw: jups - do it this way then ...
16:17 < jsaw> okay, so I'll create package/gnome24 with "raw" names.
16:17 < jsaw> Installation directory? /opt/gnome-2.4?
16:18 < rxr> IMHO /opt/gnome24
16:18 < jsaw> k.
16:18 * jsaw is now going to revise 173 packages...
16:18 < jsaw> *sweat*
16:19 < rxr> yeah! Much fun.
16:20 < rxr> I also did some looped vim sessions over the former sourceforge repository - and after I did all this - and fixed tons and tons of errors most of them got wiped out ...
16:20 < rxr> *sniff*
16:20 < mnemoc> rxr: you 'forgot' to apply/post lvs & keepalived patch :(
16:21 < rxr> mnemoc: Committed revision 1391.
16:21 < mnemoc> :) thanks
16:22 < tcr> rxr: (having yet no time to read through the website) what exactly is rock-consulting? 
16:25 < mnemoc> rxr: you should use tables instead of divs, in ie6 the content is below the menu, and in mozilla 1.5 the last modified under it :(
16:26 < mnemoc> (aprops regtest page)
16:28 < tcr> mnemoc, best would be you reply to his mail. It's more likely it won't get lost
16:28 < mnemoc> good point :)
16:28 < mnemoc> wiith or without screenshots?
16:31 < tcr> Depends on how big they are. If they're big, better upload them somewhere
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16:53 < owl> remoin
17:00 * daja77 waves and vanishes again
17:03 < owl> O_o hi dennis *rewave*
17:03 < owl> aeh. sorry. daja77 
17:03 < daja77> <- involved in much rl activity this weekend
17:04 < owl> daja77: why?
17:04 < daja77> cos some people want to go out with me
17:04 < owl> O_o who? 
17:04 < owl> <-- not "neugierig"
17:05 < daja77> rofl
17:05 < owl> :p
17:05 < daja77> a friend, my sister ...
17:05 < owl> omfg. and what about your - maybe soon - gf?
17:05 < daja77> still away
17:06 < owl> hm. shit. when will she be back?
17:06 < daja77> dunno
17:06 < daja77> <- will find this out
17:06 < owl> *har* good luck
17:06 < daja77> hehe thx
17:06 * owl offers daja77 lemon-tea
17:07 < daja77> oh thx
17:07 * daja77 just had earl grey
17:07 < owl> hm. don't know it... /me likes lemon, peach, apple... ;)
17:08 < daja77> earl grey = black tea with bergamote oil
17:08 < owl> omfg. sounds very "bitter" or so
17:08 < daja77> well not if put cugar and milk in it
17:09 < owl> hm... milk & tea - wuah. 
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17:09 < owl> O_o this song is strange... (/me playing: system of a down - aerials)
17:09 < owl> hi christ|an 
17:09 < daja77> nah it is good, if you use brands from england
17:10 < christ|an> hi owl :)
17:10 < owl> hmmm. k.
17:10 < daja77> so off now
17:10 < daja77> cu
17:10 < owl> baba, daja77. have fun
17:10 < daja77> thx
17:19 < jsaw> cu l8r, bye bye
17:21 < owl> bye jsaw 
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17:38 * |-|4XX0r changes to leet :)
17:38 * |-|4XX0r changed to leet :)
17:40 < owl> omfg. 
17:40 < mnemoc> mmm...
17:41 < acm_kiki> HI mnemoc
17:42 < owl> hi mnemoc 
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19:41 < rxr> is google dead, for you, too?
19:42 < tcr> nope
19:43 < rxr> does it answer to pings? or just html?
19:43 < rxr> which IP address ?
19:47 < tcr> 216.239.59.99
19:47 < tcr> I can normally use it
19:50 < rxr> tcr: bei mir ist der letze host via traceroute:
19:50 < rxr> 13  google.Dublin.cw.net (208.175.245.94)  48.777 ms  48.181 ms  48.488 ms
19:50 < rxr> wo ist der bei dir?
19:52 < rxr> sorry for the LANG=de
19:52 < rxr> I'm in a hurry
19:52 < rxr> hm - from the uni it is routed totally differently ...
19:52 * rxr away - cu tonight or tomorrow ...
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20:04 < tcr> rxr: sorry I was away
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23:19 < tcr> Huh? We don't have cscope as a package?
23:22 * Freak announces he is ABOUT TO ROCK HIS POWERBOOK
23:23 < mnemoc> grep -h "\[M\]" package/*/*/*.desc | sort -u <--- nice check
23:23 < Freak> weeeeee even booting from cd holding C pressed works..
23:24 < mnemoc> there are 17 ways to write rene rebe :)
23:24 < Freak> lol? ;)
23:24 < mnemoc> :\
23:26 < Freak> rxr: how does the "sleep-light" blink when some action is performed?! it never did this before.. is this a new feature in 2.4.22(-ben2)?
23:34 < Freak> that is irritating :)
23:37 < Freak> ROCKing is fun somehow :)
23:47 < Nebukadneza> hi
23:47 < Nebukadneza> anyone here knows kino?
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23:55 < Freak> stone needs auto-eject of discs.
23:55 < Freak> on slotin-powerbooks particularly :)
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