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--- Log opened Tue Sep 16 00:00:45 2003 00:03 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: any progress? 00:08 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: yes - with different things .... 00:08 < rxr> how long do you plan to stay awake ? 00:09 * Pyro realizes he has never seen [CTG]Wibra .. 00:09 < Pyro> hi rxr 00:09 < rxr> hi Pyro 00:09 * daja77 goes to bed now 00:09 < rxr> Pyro: how is the live in CR ? 00:09 < Pyro> rxr: latest rock iso available? 00:09 < rxr> n8 daja77 00:10 < fake> n8 daja 00:10 < rxr> Pyro: jups - rc1 for x86 and -rc1+fixes for powerpc 00:10 < Pyro> rxr: doing fine, had to change work schedule so now i am doing night shift.. 00:10 < Pyro> rxr: location? 00:10 < rxr> but the powerpc one is not yet official - and I think I'll update it before I announce it ... 00:10 < rxr> Pyro: the usual ... 00:10 < Pyro> rxr: also waiting for a good friend to come visit next year ;) 00:10 < Pyro> rxr: ok 00:16 * fake Goethes Erben - Abseits des Lichtes 00:25 < fake> "und in der blutlache spiegelte sich erneut meine eigene angst.. und wieder..." 00:26 < rxr> Pyro: yes - we are looking forward to visit cr, too 00:26 < Pyro> rxr: you already know that the doors of my house are open for you and Verena when ever you wish to come. 00:34 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: will you stay up some more hours? 00:37 < rxr> Pyro: do you still plan to come to the chaos communication congres over this december? 00:38 < Pyro> rxr: yes i do. 00:38 < Pyro> i was hoping you would save me a place @ the rock booth.. 00:38 < fake> no, it's for members only! 00:38 < fake> ;-) j/k 00:38 < Pyro> thank you. 00:39 * fake curious - meeting the first costaricanianesian in his life 00:39 < rxr> we just wanted to offer you a place to sleep in our flat if you need one - maybe you can stay over new years eve? 00:40 < Pyro> rxr: sounds great, thanks i will take the offer :) 00:40 < Pyro> fake: costaricanianesian where did you get that word from? 00:40 < Pyro> :) 00:40 < fake> Pyro: neologism 00:40 < Pyro> fake: costarrican is easier i think :) 00:41 < rxr> Pyro: ;-) Will Rebecka come with you? 00:42 < Pyro> rxr: i don't think so, she just started a new job, and its really sure that won't let her have one week holidays by then.. 00:43 * fake off 00:43 < fake> cu 00:43 < owl> <- sleeping. gn8 00:43 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DEC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("BitchX: roqz yer nutz!") 00:44 < Pyro> n8 owl 00:44 < owl> gn8 Pyro 00:44 < Pyro> hironic i just woke up.. 00:44 < Pyro> ironic even 00:49 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009210.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:50 < dreamind> Hi 00:51 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:52 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: yes staying up 00:53 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: imagine the honor rxr, being the first to get a 2.4.2x to work on my config :D 01:11 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 01:13 < Pyro> Hola Aitor.. 01:16 < A-Tui> hola Pyro 01:16 < Pyro> how are you ? 01:16 < A-Tui> i send a patch for i18n but i used a bad email :( 01:16 < Pyro> what do you mean? 01:16 < A-Tui> i have another mail register :) 01:17 < Pyro> i see 01:17 < A-Tui> tonigth i will send again with the good one 01:17 < Pyro> A-Tui: you do know that i left the rock linux core team right? 01:18 < A-Tui> daja77: told me the other day 01:18 < Pyro> please submit your patche for i18n directly to the list 01:18 < Pyro> patches 01:19 < A-Tui> ok, then you are not in Rock? 01:19 < Pyro> not at the moment 01:20 < Pyro> i do feel a lot of sympathy for rock.. i have been around for many years.. so i will try to submit little contributions again in the future 01:20 < A-Tui> Pyro: fine :) 01:20 < A-Tui> and how are you in general? yo got married true? 01:20 < Pyro> if rxr takes such contribs of course.. 01:20 < A-Tui> you 01:21 < Pyro> doing ok, not ,arried yet 01:21 < A-Tui> ahh ok 01:24 < Pyro> ls 01:24 < Pyro> grr :) 01:25 < A-Tui> :) 01:33 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: If you get SCSI timeouts this usually means that IRQ routing setup is 01:33 < [CTG]Wibra> > wrong 01:35 < Pyro> ping rxr 01:36 < [CTG]Wibra> ping? 01:36 * [CTG]Wibra slaps rxr around a bit with a large trout 01:36 < Pyro> rxr: when was minimal target removed? 01:37 < Pyro> i don't see any nothe to this in the changelogs.. 01:37 < Pyro> note* 01:38 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 01:39 < Pyro> [CTG]Wibra: you new to rock? 01:39 < [CTG]Wibra> very new 01:39 * Pyro making some coffee... 01:39 < [CTG]Wibra> :) 01:39 < [CTG]Wibra> i can't get it to install 01:39 < Pyro> [CTG]Wibra: how do you like it so faR? 01:40 < Pyro> maybe you want to tell about ur problem on the instalation 01:40 < [CTG]Wibra> so i am not particularly liking it :) but hey, rxr is commiting himself to fixing it, so i don't give up yet 01:40 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: now my girlfriends is sleeping - so the driver get's merged now .. 01:41 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr, you can explain better perhaps :) 01:41 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: buz hey it is not ROCK Linux but the vanilla kernel in general - see e.g. Gentoo fails the same ... 01:41 < [CTG]Wibra> what's the "vanilla" kernel? the name for 2.4? 01:43 < Pyro> [CTG]Wibra: vainilla kenel = standard kernel from kernel.org woth no modifications. 01:43 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 01:43 < Pyro> rxr: what happened to minimal target? 01:43 < rxr> it is a genral expression for a unmodified e.g. software package 01:43 < [CTG]Wibra> ic, as in "the standard flavor" 01:43 < rxr> Pyro: since it was only a package selection we now have package selection templates 01:43 < rxr> minimal and minimal+xfree 01:43 < rxr> ;-) 01:44 < [CTG]Wibra> does kernel hacking involves the assembler language? 01:45 < Pyro> i see.. just was confused as i saw no comments of its removal on the changelog. 01:47 < Pyro> rxr: can use this "templates" to build only the minimal package selection? 01:47 < Pyro> or does this apply only for instalation? 01:47 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: for Linux only in rare cases 01:47 < rxr> Pyro: nope - during build time 01:47 < SMP> [CTG]Wibra: not necessarily, but good programmers check the compiler output for their code 01:47 < rxr> the selection templates can be applied to any target 01:48 < Pyro> rxr: how do i apply them? 01:48 < rxr> Pyro: you select the in the Config 01:48 < Pyro> checking... 01:48 < [CTG]Wibra> thank god. i guess you'd all have fucked up brains and talking shit like mov [bx],ax 01:49 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: to be hones I read more SPARC and PowerPC assembly ... 01:49 < Pyro> rxr: and where are this templates stored? 01:50 < rxr> misc/pkgsel/ 01:50 < [CTG]Wibra> i just keep myself to basic school debugging :) (i386) 01:51 < Pyro> rxr: looks fine. thanks. 02:09 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok - now I merged the stuff - and now I need to get it compile ... 02:09 < [CTG]Wibra> suppose i got/get the adapter to work, how will i know it did? 02:11 < [CTG]Wibra> i did a cat /proc/scsi/scsi after removing my scsicdrom, and i see my seagate appearing (but also my idedrive :( ) 02:11 < rxr> hm - thing compiled 02:11 < rxr> the IDE CDROM is ok - we have to use an part of the Linux kernel that does SCSI emulation for IDE devices 02:12 < rxr> this is the only way to burn CDs with a IDE CD-Writer with Linux 2.4 02:12 < [CTG]Wibra> ic, but the ide is just a dvdrom 02:12 < rxr> with Linux 2.6 it is possible to use IDE-CD-Writers driectly 02:12 < [CTG]Wibra> or linux does this for all cdroms, just in case they have write capabilities? 02:13 < rxr> yes - the IDE<->SCSI emulation in Linux is not very good implemented this is why we limit it's use the CD-ROMs only 02:13 < rxr> your IDE disks will be used directly over IDE - this is faster and more reliable ... 02:13 < [CTG]Wibra> ic ic 02:13 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: nope - our default kernel does this for all CD-ROMs ... 02:13 < [CTG]Wibra> anyways, when running stone now, it does give me more options 02:13 < rxr> ok - so you removed a SCSI CD and your disk turn up ? 02:14 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 02:14 < rxr> how many discs have you connected to the SCSI bus ? 02:14 < [CTG]Wibra> 1 02:14 < rxr> btw I could send a new module over ... 02:15 < [CTG]Wibra> another new module? 02:15 < rxr> yes - the one I just merged together ... 02:15 < [CTG]Wibra> ah 02:15 < rxr> maybe it does perform even better ... 02:15 < [CTG]Wibra> i thought you merged a kernel 02:15 < rxr> _maybe_ 02:15 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 02:15 < [CTG]Wibra> why not 02:15 < [CTG]Wibra> wurtel at pandora dot be 02:15 < rxr> yes - I merged this module modification in the current kernel (this patch was for a really old mangled RedHat kernel ...) 02:16 < [CTG]Wibra> i don't know what exactly that is, but thx anyway ;) 02:17 < rxr> sent 02:17 < [CTG]Wibra> received 02:20 < rxr> do you test it this night ? 02:20 < [CTG]Wibra> yesyes 02:20 < [CTG]Wibra> rebooting 02:21 < [CTG]Wibra> already insmodded, didn't know how to un-insmod 02:21 < rxr> rmmod 02:21 < [CTG]Wibra> now with scsi cdrom back connected 02:21 < [CTG]Wibra> :( scsi bios is whining 02:22 < rxr> whining ? 02:22 < [CTG]Wibra> np, i'll get this fixed in a jiffy 02:25 < rxr> erhm - what is the exact problem? 02:25 < [CTG]Wibra> just something about auto-manual configuration 02:25 < [CTG]Wibra> already fixed 02:26 < rxr> hm 02:26 < [CTG]Wibra> insmod gives: 02:26 < [CTG]Wibra> "can't handle sections of type 905969725" 02:26 < [CTG]Wibra> md5sum? 02:27 < rxr> e215c64fc1bc8a628671bd90e696f454 qla1280.o 02:27 < [CTG]Wibra> okay, again bad one :) 02:27 < rxr> yes - damn floppies ... 02:28 < rxr> I have a Zip for years now - that is way better 02:28 < [CTG]Wibra> idd, plus floppydrive has seen better years 02:28 < [CTG]Wibra> have zipdrive too, but only one :) 02:29 < [CTG]Wibra> never really used it :( 02:29 < [CTG]Wibra> i bought it with my dell, i thought it was gonna break through. it never did 02:29 < [CTG]Wibra> formatting disk... 02:30 < [CTG]Wibra> :( i got the exact same md5sum as last time 02:31 < rxr> recopy onto the floppy 02:31 < rxr> or reformat it low-level 02:32 < [CTG]Wibra> i formatted floppy, copied onto floppy 02:32 < [CTG]Wibra> finding other floppy 02:33 < rxr> you could copy it say 4 times under a different name onto the floopy 02:33 < rxr> one is likely to survive ... 02:33 < [CTG]Wibra> :) 02:34 < [CTG]Wibra> exact same md5sum 02:34 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009210.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 02:34 < [CTG]Wibra> on other floppy... kinda suspicious 02:35 < [CTG]Wibra> not? 02:35 < rxr> cytrinox`: hm - maybe the mail -- oO - maybe you mail application is too ... 02:35 < [CTG]Wibra> outlook express :) 02:36 < [CTG]Wibra> why you keep calling me cytronix? 02:37 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: because my nifty chat program has auto-completion - and when I typo too fast I do not look on the name it completede ... 02:37 < rxr> sorry 02:37 < [CTG]Wibra> np 02:37 < [CTG]Wibra> i know its me 02:37 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I resent the file tagged as binary data - I hope your mail application makes s.th. better out of it ... 02:37 < [CTG]Wibra> this file you sent me has a better size 02:37 < [CTG]Wibra> also 90k, like the others 02:37 < [CTG]Wibra> the other one was 155k 02:38 < [CTG]Wibra> md5sum checks out ok this time, insmodding 02:39 < rxr> the last one was sent quoted printable - and with mime type text - M$ software has special problems with quoted printable encodings - and maybe the mime type did the rest ... 02:39 < rxr> sorry 02:40 < [CTG]Wibra> keeping my fingers crossed 02:40 < [CTG]Wibra> YUESS 02:40 < [CTG]Wibra> woohoooooooo 02:40 < [CTG]Wibra> cdrom AND disk 02:40 < [CTG]Wibra> tytytytytytytyty 02:41 < rxr> NICE! 02:43 < rxr> ok - now you can install ROCK Linux finally ? 02:43 < [CTG]Wibra> yep 02:43 < [CTG]Wibra> just partitioned my disk 02:45 < [CTG]Wibra> installing... 02:46 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I made a change to the partitionizer today - the new one lists the anayzed content typo of the filesystem in the menu - like e.g. Windows VFAT, Linux Swap, or ReierFS and so on 02:46 < rxr> hm - it comes to my mind that your system will not bootup due to the defeact SCSI code in the kernel 02:47 < rxr> you would need to put the module into your system, too 02:47 < [CTG]Wibra> *gulp* 02:47 < [CTG]Wibra> i forgot something 02:47 < [CTG]Wibra> creating filesystem 02:47 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: we will work this out here 02:47 < [CTG]Wibra> ext2 or 3 ? 02:47 < rxr> what you want - I would prefer ext3 ... 02:48 < rxr> (or ReiserFS ...) 02:48 < [CTG]Wibra> hmm, i need to manualle create different partitions for the swap and so on? 02:48 < [CTG]Wibra> if i remember well, my last linux used 3 different partitions 02:49 < [CTG]Wibra> forgive me these less-important questions, i can easily get this info elsewhere 02:50 < rxr> you only need two partitions - one for the swap - and one for the normal files 02:50 < [CTG]Wibra> on a 9gig disk, primarly server apps, what config would you take 02:50 < [CTG]Wibra> 8-1? 02:50 < [CTG]Wibra> total ram is still unsure, will lie between 128 and 284 02:51 < [CTG]Wibra> 384 02:51 < rxr> 128 or 256 MB swap-space 02:51 < rxr> the rest a ext3 filesystem 02:52 < [CTG]Wibra> i thought installed ram*2 for ideal swapspace 02:52 < [CTG]Wibra> will take 256 02:52 < rxr> well "ideal" depends on the workload 02:52 < rxr> on normal systems the swap is rarly used - and only wasted space 02:52 < rxr> for embedded systems you'll not have swap at all 02:52 < SMP> well, lots of swap on a workstation is mainly useful for swsusp these days 02:53 < [CTG]Wibra> swsusp? 02:53 < rxr> and when a server is constantly swapping you need to upgrade yoru RAM 02:53 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: suspend to disk 02:53 < [CTG]Wibra> ah 02:53 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: from our ROCK Linux handbook: 02:53 < rxr> Partitioning the hard drive is a matter of taste. It is a good practice to have a partition with a basic bootable Linux system - and a working bootloader (which is great if you need something to fall back on). That can be very convenient for performing maintenance tasks. Some people like a small /boot partition for their kernels or need this due to and odd ?1024 cylinder limitation? in older PC BIOSes, a partition for swap space and a 02:54 < [CTG]Wibra> well, it will mainly be just a router, and then some extra's. so i guess i don't need 1Gb of swap 02:54 < [CTG]Wibra> and of course you're right what you said about a swapping server 02:54 < rxr> I would use 128 or 256 ... 02:54 < [CTG]Wibra> 297,16 :) 02:55 < rxr> and for the first tests learning I recommend only one partition the '/' 02:55 < rxr> btw the Handbook is here: 02:55 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbook.html 02:55 < [CTG]Wibra> will have it handy 02:56 < rxr> the install process is not yet well documented in the book - it is on the top of my TODO for some days now :-( 02:57 < [CTG]Wibra> :) perhaps in a way i could help 02:57 < [CTG]Wibra> i'm a noob myself but hey, i could give it a try 02:59 < [CTG]Wibra> does the swap file need to be primary? 02:59 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: well those sections in the book are not that filled to if you have an addition feel free to send the lines per mail 02:59 < rxr> rene@rocklinux.org 03:00 < [CTG]Wibra> alright, i'll see if i can come up with something 03:00 < rxr> it is (normally) a swap partition - and it does not need to be a primary partition 03:00 < [CTG]Wibra> i'll quote you on the "and when a server is constantly swapping you need to upgrade yoru RAM" 03:00 < [CTG]Wibra> without the typo ;) 03:02 < [CTG]Wibra> buh :( still stuck at stone 03:02 < A-Tui> bye all 03:02 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:02 < [CTG]Wibra> i got "part1 currently not mounted" 03:02 < [CTG]Wibra> i choose "create filesystem" 03:02 < [CTG]Wibra> ext3 03:03 < [CTG]Wibra> then "mount device scsi/... on directory" 03:03 < [CTG]Wibra> i type in "mnt/target" 03:03 < rxr> nope! just type in '/' 03:03 < rxr> why do you think you need to enter mnt/target ????? 03:04 < [CTG]Wibra> ah. because theres a "mnt/source" too, and i already saw the "target" directory in the mnt dir 03:04 < rxr> ... 03:04 < [CTG]Wibra> and "source" being my bootinstall 03:05 < rxr> doesn't the -rc1 isntall already show the example '/' and '/home' in the top of the menu ? 03:05 < [CTG]Wibra> nope 03:06 < [CTG]Wibra> you should perhaps include a failsafe for users like me, who just go ahead and try to install without a partition :) 03:06 < [CTG]Wibra> otherwise you get "no disk space" errors all over the screen 03:06 < [CTG]Wibra> :) 03:06 < [CTG]Wibra> then again, n00b's won't go using rock i think 03:12 < rxr> hm 03:12 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 746143 Sep 16 03:11 qla1280-ver-rxr.patch 03:12 < rxr> oO - this one is fat 03:13 < rolla> re 03:16 < rxr> hi rolla 03:18 < rolla> hallo rolla 03:24 < rolla> grr 03:24 < [CTG]Wibra> frustrated? 03:24 < rolla> yeah 03:24 < [CTG]Wibra> because nobody says hello? 03:25 < rolla> no cause I said hello to myself ;) 03:25 < [CTG]Wibra> well 03:25 < [CTG]Wibra> what i said 03:25 < rolla> be == beilgum? 03:25 < Pyro> hi rolla 03:25 < rolla> hallo Pyro 03:25 < [CTG]Wibra> "nobody" said hello :p 03:26 < [CTG]Wibra> idd, be = belgium 03:26 < Pyro> [CTG]Wibra: pardon? 03:26 < rolla> if I could spell 03:26 < [CTG]Wibra> not to you pyro 03:26 < rolla> mistik1: 03:26 < rolla> MIke 03:36 < [CTG]Wibra> After the package extraction the STONE utility will lead you through a number of questions like the root password, keyboard mapping, language, hardware, network and offer you the possibility to setup your favorite boot loader. 03:36 < [CTG]Wibra> => it didn't 03:40 < rxr> hm - what packaged did you selected? full workstation - or did you modified it manually ? 03:40 < [CTG]Wibra> server 03:40 < [CTG]Wibra> after the last package, it did gave an error "not enough space for the here document" or something 03:41 < rxr> I meant the STONE utility will ask you whether to install all (workstation) or minimal base system 03:41 < rxr> and then you can modify the package selectio by performing manual single selection 03:41 < rxr> what have you choosen during this ? 03:42 < [CTG]Wibra> yes, i chose minimal 03:42 < [CTG]Wibra> no modifications 03:42 < rxr> hm 03:42 < rxr> but this should work - strange 03:43 < rxr> what "not enough space for the here document" error do you mean ? 03:43 < [CTG]Wibra> something with a temp folder? 03:43 < [CTG]Wibra> didn't pay much attention to it, didn't seem important 03:43 < [CTG]Wibra> and then it asked me to umount/reboot of shutdown 03:44 < rxr> strange 03:44 < rxr> what does "df" output ? 03:44 < [CTG]Wibra> hang on, trying to get my scsidisk to boot :) 03:45 < rxr> erhm - this installation will not be bootable! 03:45 < [CTG]Wibra> no but at least my bios should detect my scsibios 03:45 < rxr> the bootloader is configured in STONE (which does not seem to be run on your box) - and the correctly working SCSI driver module for your card is missing inside the system 03:46 < [CTG]Wibra> :( as long as my scsiadapter isn't detected by my bios i will never be able to boot from it 03:47 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 03:47 < [CTG]Wibra> that works 03:47 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: what problems are with the detection= 03:48 < [CTG]Wibra> no prob, it didn't list my adapter, but it did list my scsi-disk in bios, so that's fixed 03:48 < [CTG]Wibra> so, how do i go about booting? 03:48 < [CTG]Wibra> using a bootdisk every time? 03:49 < [CTG]Wibra> for now i'll use the installation cdrom, ok? 03:49 < rxr> cytrinox`: nope you could cp the module into the system 03:50 < rxr> but this will not work in this special case, because due to my stupiditiy my official -rc1 build used 2.4.21 for the bootdisk and 2.4.22 for the system (don't ask I must have slept) 03:50 < [CTG]Wibra> but it's normal that i don't even see the slightest sign of linux when booting? my bios just lists "no OS found" 03:50 < rxr> so you get a module for 2.4.22 from me tomorrow (or so - it is already compiling but I modified some things ...) 03:51 < [CTG]Wibra> i think it should at least find the linux-variant of msdos.sys, and then crashing 03:51 < rxr> but the next problem is that it is a module and so not present during boot - this is what a initrd (inital ramdisk) is normally for - but this module misses the information to be added to a ramdisk automatically - I just added those and this is why I recompile the module ... 03:51 < rxr> so my updated module should work in 2.4.22 and be able to put into the initial ramdisk by the STONE utility ... 03:52 < [CTG]Wibra> i understand (i really do ;) ) 03:53 < rxr> ok ;-)O 03:53 < rxr> I need some sleeop now - cu tomorrow 03:53 < [CTG]Wibra> so with the driver compiled in it, my bios will detect an os? 03:54 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 03:54 < [CTG]Wibra> oh ok, nn8 03:54 < rxr> n8 mnemoc and [CTG]Wibra 03:55 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: oehm - does the BIOS detect s.th. before it executes the master boot recored - hm - I do not remeber about this detail - we'll see ... ;-) 03:55 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 03:55 < mnemoc> rxr: go to sleep :) 03:55 < [CTG]Wibra> :) yes, so you're fit to help me tomorow :) 05:02 < Pyro> mnemoc: 05:06 < mnemoc> Pyro: 05:11 < Pyro> coding again huh? 05:12 < mnemoc> yeap :) 05:13 < mnemoc> how is the new biz going? 05:15 < Pyro> doing good :) 05:15 < mnemoc> great ;) 06:47 < blindcoder> moin moin 06:47 < Pyro> moin blindy 06:53 < blindcoder> moin Pyro ^^ 06:54 < Freak> mornings guys 06:55 < Pyro> hi freaky :) 06:55 < blindcoder> moin gal :D 06:55 < Pyro> gal?? 06:57 * blindcoder hides 06:58 * Freak doesnt feel adressed. 07:02 < blindcoder> ah, nothin like a good fserver to get anime :-) 07:04 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M264P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:05 < Freak> blindcoder: give me. 07:05 < Freak> :) 07:06 < Pyro> hi n00kie 07:07 < blindcoder> Freak: it wouldn't be useful, cause it's episode 24 07:09 < Freak> hmmmm 07:09 < Freak> do you speak japanese? 07:10 < Freak> and what series is it you're downloading? 07:11 * Freak be watching Star Trek VIII 07:12 < blindcoder> DNAngel, english sub 07:12 < Freak> hmmm 07:12 < n00kie> Hi Pyro 07:13 < n00kie> Bye guys, school. :/ 07:18 < Freak> duh! 184euro for the star trek I-X moviebox :((( 07:19 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091988.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:19 < Freak> weeee, its only about 100eur at amazon.uk 07:45 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.184.146.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:02 < Freak> https://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/slashdot/tshirts/62d1/zoom/ 08:12 -!- pengo [xtofu@p464-tnt2.mel.ihug.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 08:35 < netrunner> hm ... ssl over ssh over http ... 08:37 < blindcoder> netrunner: you transconnect too much :) 08:38 < netrunner> blindcoder: now that it works I consider using it for surfing anonymously in the company 08:38 * netrunner wonders if they track keepalive connections 08:56 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091988.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:18 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9E39FB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:21 < Pyro> hi christ|an 09:23 < blindcoder> *yawn* 09:24 < Pyro> blindcoder: want some coffee? 09:28 < blindcoder> anything but that... the coffee here is decaf'ed 09:30 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:31 < [anders]> moin 09:33 < Pyro> hello [anders] 09:33 < [anders]> lo Pyro 09:33 < [anders]> *yawn* 09:33 < [anders]> kittens kept me awake for part of the night.. 09:33 < [anders]> "What goes thump in the dark" like.. 09:37 < blindcoder> moin [anders], want some dogs? :) 09:38 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9E390C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:39 < [anders]> blindcoder: no thanks.. 09:39 < [anders]> three kittens is more than enough.. 09:39 < blindcoder> hehe 09:43 < Pyro> [anders]: maybe blindcoder wants one? 09:43 < [anders]> Pyro: that is an interesting question.. :) 09:46 < Pyro> hehe 09:52 < blindcoder> nah, I just don't get along with cats... or they with me, depends :) 09:53 < Pyro> hehe 09:53 < blindcoder> I could however get along with a cute catgirl :D 09:53 * Pyro read blindy's comment and suddenly the word "pussycat" came to his mind.. 09:53 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9E39FB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:54 < blindcoder> hmm... I wonder what this mirror would do to him... 10:11 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F348.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:11 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FF39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 10:11 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 10:48 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M348P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:02 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M264P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:13 < daja77> moin 11:13 < Pyro> moin daja77 11:13 < daja77> hey still here :) 11:16 < Pyro> yes.. i am off work in 40 minutes.. 11:29 < Freak> https://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0309/isabel2_terra_big.jpg 11:35 < daja77> cool picture 11:37 < blindcoder> Pyro: lazy bum :)R 11:38 < blindcoder> nice pic, would make a great background :-) 11:43 < daja77> bbl, cu 11:48 < Freak> blindcoder: ack. 11:49 < Freak> 7mb animated gif of jupiter surface: https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/archive/PIA02863.gif 11:49 < daja77> https://home.manuelm.org/~manuelm/webklitsche/ 11:52 < Freak> hehehe 11:52 < Freak> "(erstellt mit Word 2000)" 11:52 < daja77> nice joke :) 11:56 -!- pengo [xtofu@p464-tnt2.mel.ihug.com.au] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:01 -!- [anders] [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 12:32 < rxr> re 12:33 < blindcoder> echo " Kill stupid VeriSign site..." 12:33 < blindcoder> $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -t nat -p tcp -d 64.94.110.11 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:2 12:34 < blindcoder> oops... sorry... EUSER2STUPID 13:09 -!- DirtyGamer [~carsten@213.70.35.59] has joined #rocklinux 13:10 < DirtyGamer> Hello! 13:11 < DirtyGamer> Hi! 13:11 < blindcoder> hi 13:11 < DirtyGamer> Do you know how in installing RockLinux? 13:12 < DirtyGamer> do you have know how in installing RockLinux 13:13 < DirtyGamer> Is there anybody out there? 13:13 < blindcoder> a bit, yes 13:13 < blindcoder> where's the problem? 13:14 < DirtyGamer> I tried to install dRock 1.6.0 precompiled ISOs! 13:14 < DirtyGamer> Installation works great! 13:14 < blindcoder> mhm 13:14 < DirtyGamer> But after reboot Kernel says Kernel Panic I have no root! I want to scream! 13:15 < blindcoder> hmm, where is your root-fs? 13:16 < DirtyGamer> "/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 13:16 < DirtyGamer> "/part2 13:17 < blindcoder> is your scsi-driver statically in your kernel? 13:17 < DirtyGamer> I donīt know! 13:17 < blindcoder> have you tried giving root=/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 as a kernel parameter? 13:18 < DirtyGamer> no 13:18 < blindcoder> then try 13:19 < DirtyGamer> one moment 13:22 < DirtyGamer> do you speak german? 13:24 < blindcoder> sure 13:25 < rxr> DirtyGamer: erhm - why have you installed dRock-1.6.0 - it is _very_ old 13:25 < rxr> and there is dRock (aka ROCK Linux - Desktop target) 2.0.0-rc1 on the servers ? 13:26 < [CTG]Wibra> well, because 2.0 is rc1, and 1.6 is final. (i think). i doubted myself too 13:26 < DirtyGamer> I canīt boot from 2.0 Iso! 13:26 < [CTG]Wibra> ah 13:26 < [CTG]Wibra> btw, hello people :) 13:27 < rxr> DirtyGamer: oh - how new is your hardware? 13:27 < rxr> hi [CTG]Wibra 13:27 < DirtyGamer> I want to build my rock linux! And to build it I need an functionary Installation! 13:27 < DirtyGamer> Hi all! 13:27 < DirtyGamer> Itīs a P3 500 Mhz 13:28 < [CTG]Wibra> why won't it boot? 13:28 < DirtyGamer> I donīt know! 13:29 < [CTG]Wibra> other cd's (like win98) do boot? or just this one cd? 13:29 < DirtyGamer> only this one cd! 13:29 < [CTG]Wibra> which program did you use to write the cd? 13:29 < DirtyGamer> boot cd of 1.6.0 works perfect 13:31 < [CTG]Wibra> and besides not booting, the 2.0 cd is readable? (could be that it's just a bad write) 13:32 < DirtyGamer> its readable 13:33 < rxr> hm - we experiensed such problems since we swiched to isolinux for the CD - but normally this problems only happen with much oder hardware (<233Mhz MMX boxes ...) 13:33 < rxr> older even 13:33 < rxr> what does your BIOS say about the CD? Is this a SCSI CD-ROM ? 13:34 < [CTG]Wibra> rxr: lol 13:34 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: why "lol"? 13:35 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: btw. has your installation finished? 13:35 < [CTG]Wibra> "scsi cdrom" now why in the world would that give problems :) 13:36 < [CTG]Wibra> it finished yesterday before you went to bed 13:36 < [CTG]Wibra> but it's the booting .... 13:37 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: yes I now - but there was this space left problem - and the STONE setup tool was not showen to enter the root password and other hardware stuff, did it? 13:37 < [CTG]Wibra> nope 13:42 < [CTG]Wibra> now i did something else after the "start installation" on stone, i did a "back" and then it didn't install anything, but continued with the things like "root passwd" and keyb language 13:48 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 < owl> moin 13:53 < blindcoder> moin moin 13:55 < DirtyGamer> moin 13:56 < [CTG]Wibra> "insmod 8139too failed" 13:58 < rxr> you hgave a 8139 ? 13:58 < rxr> maybe yours is the 8139cp ? 13:58 < rxr> btw, is this your card: 13:58 < rxr> https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3430790545&category=31494 14:08 < [CTG]Wibra> no it is not 14:08 < [CTG]Wibra> i have a qla12160 14:10 < [CTG]Wibra> i have two standard pci ethernet cards with realtek chipset 14:11 < [CTG]Wibra> ok, it boots, now lilo was written on mbr 14:11 < [CTG]Wibra> but of course "unable to mount root fs" 14:12 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok - you get a new kernel image in a few seconds 14:12 < rxr> it has compiled this scsi driver in 14:13 < [CTG]Wibra> somewhere in the line of my bootup sequence i should load that driver. seems pretty easy to me, if i knew the linuxvariant of autoexec 14:13 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 14:16 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/bzImage 14:17 < rxr> nope you can not load it because the kernel cannot any SCSI device and so no config on your harddisk 14:17 < rxr> you would need an inital ramdisc with this driver ... 14:17 < rxr> plase the file as: 14:17 < rxr> /boot/vmlinuz 14:17 < rxr> into your just installed system 14:18 -!- DirtyGamer [~carsten@213.70.35.59] has quit () 14:19 < [CTG]Wibra> its's 1,67Mb how do i get it on a floppy? 14:19 < [CTG]Wibra> winzipping? 14:19 < rxr> no it is already compressed 14:19 < [CTG]Wibra> :( 14:20 < blindcoder> split is your friend 14:20 < [CTG]Wibra> hmm 14:21 < rxr> ok 14:21 < rxr> there are now the files 14:21 < rxr> xaa and xab 14:21 < rxr> the first is 1400000 bytes in size - the other has the rest 14:21 < rxr> copy them onto your linux system 14:21 < rxr> and then do "cat xaa xab > bzImage" 14:24 < rxr> 23a8ba43f4eedb9a10bb88a613b4e4f7 bzImage 14:24 < rxr> 8167debf31fb9092d41b4aee4c7900a2 xaa 14:24 < rxr> 999158ae8a540eec393dd8725071bff0 xab 14:24 < [CTG]Wibra> :) good thinking 14:31 < rxr> and, success ? 14:31 < [CTG]Wibra> euhm 14:32 < [CTG]Wibra> place it as "boot/vmlinuz" on my disk i spose, not the ramdisk 14:32 < [CTG]Wibra> ? 14:34 < rxr> yes - on the distk 14:34 < rxr> btw I did more work on the driver - and made an optimization configurable 14:35 < rxr> you could have a new image wich does Memory Mapped IO ... - which should be significatly faster ... 14:35 < [CTG]Wibra> euhm, this may sound stupid, but how i get it to the disk in stead of the ramdisk? 14:36 < [CTG]Wibra> i am now in 2nd stage 14:36 < [CTG]Wibra> with my driver loaded 14:36 < rxr> wow - there was quite much work done on the driver in linux 2.6 ... 14:37 < rxr> run stone 14:37 < rxr> mount your '/' parition 14:37 < rxr> quite stone 14:37 < rxr> cd /mnt/target/boot 14:37 < rxr> <place your new kernel here> 14:39 < [CTG]Wibra> i placed the bzimage there 14:39 < [CTG]Wibra> and renamed it to vmlinuz 14:39 < [CTG]Wibra> but there is already a file like that, and it didn't protect 14:39 < [CTG]Wibra> protest 14:40 < rxr> the minmal rm might be silent by default 14:40 < rxr> could you check that you did not mis-typed s.th. and that vmlinuz is now the new kernel ? 14:40 < [CTG]Wibra> no it still has a different md5sum 14:41 < rxr> christian_: what did you exactly type ? 14:41 < [CTG]Wibra> "rename bzImage vmlinuz" 14:42 < rxr> hm - have you checked the md5sum ob bzImage before ? 14:42 < [CTG]Wibra> yes, the bzimage has correct checksum 14:42 < [CTG]Wibra> the vmlinuz not 14:43 < [CTG]Wibra> i'll rename it in another dir, and then copy 14:44 < [CTG]Wibra> ? it doesnt do anything 14:44 < [CTG]Wibra> in /tmp, i do the rename command 14:44 < [CTG]Wibra> i ls, and there is still the same file 14:46 < rxr> normally rename is "mv" in linux 14:46 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 14:46 < rxr> I never used rename ... 14:47 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 14:47 < [CTG]Wibra> the vmlinuz is in place 14:50 < rxr> ok ;-)! 14:50 < [CTG]Wibra> now? reboot? 14:52 < rxr> umount /mnt/target 14:52 < rxr> shutdown 14:53 < blindcoder> did you run 'lilo'? or do you use grub? 14:53 < [CTG]Wibra> lilo was run with stone 14:53 < rxr> oh - 14:53 < [CTG]Wibra> (thus the lilo is in the mbr) 14:53 < rxr> then you would have to rerun lilo inside the /mnt/target :-( 14:54 < rxr> but you can try first - but maybe your box will not boot yet :-( 14:55 < [CTG]Wibra> :) it didn't 14:55 < rxr> did not boot 14:55 < rxr> ? 14:55 < [CTG]Wibra> ohwell, a boot more or less, i'm used to it 14:55 < blindcoder> WEE, esden's build is finally in stage 9 :) 14:55 < [CTG]Wibra> "unable to mount root fs on 00:00" 14:56 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok - sorry 14:56 < [CTG]Wibra> vfs: cannot open root device "scsi...." please append a correct root= boot option 14:56 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: reboot the install cd 14:56 < rxr> use stone to mount '/' 14:56 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 14:56 < rxr> quite stone 14:56 < rxr> chroot /mnt/target 14:56 < rxr> lilo 14:56 < rxr> ah no - not lilo 14:56 < rxr> mount /dev 14:57 < rxr> mount /proc 14:57 < rxr> lilo 14:57 < rxr> ;-) 14:59 < [CTG]Wibra> is there a way to "softboot" linux? so not restarting bios, but just shutdown and restart kernel? 15:00 < [CTG]Wibra> i thought i once had that option onder dos, but don't know for sure 15:01 < rxr> people work on that - the project name is kexec 15:01 < rxr> but I do not know if it is already in a working state ... 15:02 < [CTG]Wibra> grmbl, sometimes insmod works, sometimes not. _another_ reboot 15:03 < rxr> hm - with what kind of error is the insmod failing ? 15:03 < blindcoder> think of it of a "seamless integration of windows-users into linux" :) 15:03 < [CTG]Wibra> no error, it just sits there 15:03 < rxr> and does not finish? 15:03 < [CTG]Wibra> idd 15:04 < [CTG]Wibra> it takes a while to insmod, but not *that* long 15:07 < [CTG]Wibra> sitting there... i'll give it a 2 minutes 15:09 < rxr> hm? 15:10 * blindcoder going home 15:10 < owl> bye blindy 15:12 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: does it work now ? 15:12 < rxr> btw: me just quickly reboót my iBook to test a new kernel ... 15:12 < [CTG]Wibra> k 15:14 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.54.110.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:17 < [CTG]Wibra> voila, alldone 15:20 < [CTG]Wibra> kernel panic :) 15:20 < [CTG]Wibra> it booted and recognized my adapter and the connected device 15:20 < rxr> re 15:21 < rxr> and where was the kernel panic ? 15:21 < [CTG]Wibra> then suddenly: unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference at virtual adress 000000c 15:21 < [CTG]Wibra> kernel panic: attempted to kill init 15:21 < rxr> oh my :-( 15:24 < rxr> a1you have some stack trace output after the oops ? 15:24 < [CTG]Wibra> yes, but rebooting once more (maybe it was just bad luck ;) ) 15:26 < [CTG]Wibra> yes, stack trace output 15:26 < [CTG]Wibra> i have to copy all that? 15:26 < [CTG]Wibra> 24 adresses 15:26 < rxr> hm - yes it is time consuming to do this by hand ... 15:27 < [CTG]Wibra> ill try and scan my screen :) 15:27 < rxr> scan ? 15:28 < [CTG]Wibra> with a scanner :) 15:28 < rxr> hm ... 15:31 < rxr> any progres ? 15:34 < [CTG]Wibra> scanner didn't work on its side, have to put screen on scanner 15:35 < rxr> well forget this 15:36 < [CTG]Wibra> the screen glares :) 15:36 < rxr> we need to check if my recent modifications on the driver broke it - or if I need to fix s.th. for the compiled into the kernel case ... 15:38 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/qla1280/qla1280.o-2003-09-16-1536 15:38 < rxr> ^- could you test this module inside the bootdisk ? 15:38 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 15:44 < [CTG]Wibra> checksum? 15:44 < [CTG]Wibra> 8407....dd48a 15:45 < rxr> 8407df8afbc1889a0003eedb403dd48a qla1280.o-2003-09-16-1536 15:45 < [CTG]Wibra> k 15:45 < [CTG]Wibra> kernel version mismatch 15:45 < rxr> ah - shit 15:45 < [CTG]Wibra> forgot i got 2.4.21 :) 15:46 < rxr> damn - yes your bootdisk has the older kernel 2.4.21 ... 15:46 < rxr> what does happen when you insmod -f (to force it's load ? 15:46 < rxr> ) 15:47 < [CTG]Wibra> ...waiting 15:47 < [CTG]Wibra> the previous worked if i unplugged my scsicd 15:48 < [CTG]Wibra> "module loaded" 15:48 < [CTG]Wibra> (with warnings of course) 15:49 < rxr> and do you have all devices listedn in /proc/scsi/scsi ? 15:49 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 15:50 < rxr> so it seems to work ok ? 15:50 < [CTG]Wibra> (i disconnected my scsicd) 15:50 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 15:50 < [CTG]Wibra> it works 15:50 < rxr> why did you disconnected your scsi cd - you once wrote it works with my laterst driver? 15:50 < [CTG]Wibra> well yes, but suddenly the last two times i tried, it didn't anymore 15:51 < rxr> oh - you did not told that ... :-( 15:51 < [CTG]Wibra> but no prob, booting with that kernel thing did load them 15:51 < rxr> hm - but when this module still works (to some degree) I need the trace information ... 15:51 < [CTG]Wibra> it's just that it might work, but it takes too long 15:52 < [CTG]Wibra> with just my disk connected, it's a reasonable amount of time 15:52 < [CTG]Wibra> like 1,5 minutes 15:52 < rxr> 1.5 minutes to scan the SCSI bus ?# 15:52 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 15:53 < [CTG]Wibra> but when i used that boot thing, it was more like 15 seconds 15:53 < rxr> oh - that does not sound correct - does it take an equivalent ammount of time under RedHat or Windows ? 15:53 < [CTG]Wibra> no, when the driver is in the boot proces, it all goes ok (windows, redhat, rock), it's just the insmod proces that takes so long 15:53 < rxr> hm 15:54 < rxr> ok - can you try to reboot into your installed system - and when it fails again write the wohle oops into an email (without typos ....) ? 15:54 < [CTG]Wibra> one thing different about this latest driver of you, is that it doenst correctly give the revision number of my seagate 15:54 < [CTG]Wibra> it should say rev005 , but it says rev000 15:54 < [CTG]Wibra> okay, ill boot and type the whole oops 15:55 < rxr> thanks 15:55 < [CTG]Wibra> why is it better to umount before shutdown? 15:56 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M348P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 15:56 < rxr> well - the shutdown should do this ... - I just wanted to make sure it is umounted ... 15:56 < [CTG]Wibra> why is that necessary? to write any buffered data? 15:56 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:59 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: it oopsed the same way ? 15:59 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 15:59 < [CTG]Wibra> writing everyting down 16:10 < [CTG]Wibra> written, double checking everything now 16:15 < [CTG]Wibra> sent 16:15 < [CTG]Wibra> afk 16:19 < rxr> ok 16:25 < rxr> hm - the anaylis reveals that the ide-scsi emulation driver crashes 16:25 < rxr> not the qla1280 one ... 16:25 < rxr> could you boot into the CD 16:25 < rxr> load the working module 16:26 < rxr> I need some info form the etc/lilo.conf in your system 16:26 < rxr> I think the config is wrong 16:26 < rxr> (but yet the ide-scsi module should not crash - but I already wrote the ide-scsi module is far from optimal ... 16:57 < daja77> hmm i thought that .Z fix is already included in svn:head 16:58 < [CTG]Wibra> alright 16:59 < daja77> still get tons of error for .Z files 17:00 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:01 < holyolli> moin 17:01 < owl> hi daja77, pilot (aka holyolli ) 17:01 < daja77> i holyolli, owl 17:23 < rxr> re 17:24 < daja77> wb rxr 17:24 < rxr> my brother phoned and well this took some time ... 17:24 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: have you mounted your '/' ? 17:25 < [CTG]Wibra> pff, i can't get the module to load 17:25 < [CTG]Wibra> now trying 3d time 17:25 < [CTG]Wibra> i guess that 2.4.21-2.4.22 difference is doing it 17:26 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: use the old working one from the last mails .... 17:26 < [CTG]Wibra> k 17:29 < daja77> damn new openssh exploit 17:29 < rxr> hm 17:31 * rxr updating 17:31 * daja77 trying to emerge new version, can send patch if it works 17:32 < rxr> I'm already updating it ... 17:33 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: module loaded? 17:34 < daja77> rxr: ok 17:36 < [CTG]Wibra> insmodding 17:37 < [CTG]Wibra> loaded 17:37 < [CTG]Wibra> in 20 secs or so 17:37 < rxr> ok so mount root to /mnt/target 17:38 < rxr> cd /mnt/target/etc 17:38 < rxr> and "cat lilo.conf" 17:39 < [CTG]Wibra> no shuch file or directory 17:39 < [CTG]Wibra> (when cding) 17:40 < rxr> erhm you have mounted your '/' in stone or so ? 17:40 < [CTG]Wibra> yes 17:40 < rxr> cd /mnt/target ? 17:41 < [CTG]Wibra> under target: cdrom0, cdrom1 and floppy0 17:42 < rxr> have you already chrooted into your installed system? 17:42 < rxr> or what did you do after mounting it in stone ? 17:42 < [CTG]Wibra> chroot /mnt/target/ 17:42 < holyolli> re 17:42 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ah! ok 17:42 < rxr> cat /etc/lilo.conf 17:42 < rxr> ;-) 17:43 < [CTG]Wibra> "<rxr> ok so mount root to /mnt/target" 17:43 < rxr> yeah - mount - no chroot - but a chroot is also ok and valid / perfect ... 17:44 < [CTG]Wibra> cat output: 17:44 < [CTG]Wibra> boot=dev/scsi/.../disc 17:44 < [CTG]Wibra> delay=40 17:44 < [CTG]Wibra> lba32 17:45 < rxr> cat is boot exactly ? 17:45 < [CTG]Wibra> image=/boot/vmlinuz, label=rock, append ="root=/dev/.../lun0/part1" read only 17:45 < holyolli> does anybody has some hints about updating a fu**ed up 1.5 install? without reinstalling the whole machine? 17:45 < rxr> and this root is also of interest to me 17:45 < [CTG]Wibra> image=/boot/memtest86.bin label=memtest optional 17:47 < rxr> ok - I need the first boot= and the apend root= of the vmlinuz image ;-)! 17:48 < [CTG]Wibra> euh... how :) 17:53 < rxr> I mean the textual form you post them here, just the few lines ... 17:53 < rxr> daja77: update committed 17:54 < [CTG]Wibra> yes, but i didn't understand you quite 17:54 < [CTG]Wibra> you need the "boot= of the vmlinuz image"... how, what ? 17:57 < rxr> I need the first boot= line 17:57 < rxr> and the root= line of the vmlinuz image 17:58 < [CTG]Wibra> okay, so i did "cat vmlinuz" .... definitely not good :) 17:58 < [CTG]Wibra> rebooting :) 17:58 < rxr> no! 17:58 < rxr> why do you reboot 17:58 < rxr> reset 17:58 < rxr> resets the terminal ... 17:59 < [CTG]Wibra> because i couldn't read anything 17:59 < rxr> reset 17:59 < [CTG]Wibra> every letter was some fucked up ascii shit 17:59 < [CTG]Wibra> ic 17:59 < rxr> yes 17:59 < rxr> reset 17:59 < [CTG]Wibra> well, for next time :) 17:59 < rxr> you could save half of your reboots .... 17:59 < [CTG]Wibra> idd 18:00 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 18:00 < [CTG]Wibra> insmodding (again) 18:00 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:02 < [CTG]Wibra> grrrr, its taking long again 18:02 < [CTG]Wibra> no response from keyboard 18:02 < [CTG]Wibra> okay it loaded 18:03 < [CTG]Wibra> mounted / 18:03 < [CTG]Wibra> now, tell me exactly what to do :) 18:04 < rxr> hm 18:11 < rxr> I posted this into the M$ feedback: 18:11 < rxr> I was courious to see what your web-service would say to my ROCK Linux PowerPC system. 18:11 < rxr> I was quite disapointed to see that it does neither detect the OS automatically nor was my Operating System present in the "Select your opwerating system" chooser. 18:11 < rxr> Additionally on the "checkos.asp" page only a note for Apply systems is listed. Maybe you could add a note that in general Linux systems are secure - maybe this is the reason you run it on www.microsoft.com ? 18:11 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: ok - chrooted? 18:12 < [CTG]Wibra> no 18:12 < [CTG]Wibra> wanted to be safe :) 18:12 < rxr> ok - so chroot 18:12 < rxr> and grep root= /etc/lilo.conf 18:12 < rxr> and grep boot= /etc/lilo.conf 18:14 < [CTG]Wibra> boot=/dev/scsi/host1/bus1/target0/lun0/disc 18:15 < [CTG]Wibra> append="root=dev/idem/part1" 18:15 < [CTG]Wibra> idem is that whole crap 18:15 < rxr> dev/idem/part1 ??? 18:16 < [CTG]Wibra> *sigh* append="root=/dev/scsi/host1/bus1/target0/lun0/part1" 18:16 < [CTG]Wibra> didn't feel like typing :) 18:17 < rxr> and an ls /dev/scsi/host1/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 shows it exists ? 18:18 < [CTG]Wibra> fk 18:18 < [CTG]Wibra> the /dev/scsi does not exist 18:18 < [CTG]Wibra> i noticed it is impossible to start a sentence in mirc with "/dev" :) 18:18 < rxr> mount /dev 18:19 < [CTG]Wibra> part1: no such file of directory 18:19 < [CTG]Wibra> i used to think i knew what mount was, now i'm getting all mixed up. 18:20 < rxr> ok - slowly: 18:20 < rxr> you did 18:20 < [CTG]Wibra> part1 exists sorry 18:20 < rxr> ah ok 18:20 < rxr> hm 18:21 < [CTG]Wibra> i wanted to cd to it, but now i see its a file 18:21 < rxr> please do: mount /proc 18:21 < rxr> and run "stone" and install grub instead of lilo 18:21 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 18:21 < rxr> with grub we can change parameters on-the-fly .. 18:21 < [CTG]Wibra> i don't have to "uninstall" lilo i spose, grub overwrites the mbr? 18:22 < rxr> yes 18:22 < [CTG]Wibra> okay 18:22 < [CTG]Wibra> root= dev/scsi/.../part1 18:23 < [CTG]Wibra> boot drive: hd0,0 18:23 < [CTG]Wibra> created menu and installed in mbr 18:23 < [CTG]Wibra> reboot or edit the device.map ? 18:24 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Read error: 1.732050808 (Excessive square root of 3)") 18:24 < rxr> reboot 18:24 < rxr> ah no moment 18:25 < [CTG]Wibra> just in time :ā) 18:26 < rxr> I wanted to give you a new kernel without ide-scsi support ... 18:30 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9E390C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:30 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/qla1280/ 18:30 < rxr> ^- xaa and xab 18:31 < rxr> or: bzImage-2003-09-16-1829 18:31 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.54.110.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:31 < rxr> 021fa2b17f34028cd65a171b9f351143 xaa 18:31 < rxr> df40f036290d28e97c4ef5861ce3930c xab 18:31 < rxr> a7e52744e4e20ea6a46f834de690b2fb bzImage-2003-09-16-1829 18:31 < rxr> replace your vmlinuz again ... 18:32 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:32 < [CTG]Wibra> k 18:35 < [CTG]Wibra> mcopy: command not found 18:35 < rxr> hm ? 18:36 < [CTG]Wibra> have to mount disk in stead of mtools 18:39 < rxr> yes - you normally should mount devices - I did not even knew that mtools are on the bootdisk (now on the to be removed list ...) 18:39 < rxr> (wasted space) 18:40 < [CTG]Wibra> :( they were so hany 18:40 < [CTG]Wibra> handy 18:41 < [CTG]Wibra> okay 18:42 < [CTG]Wibra> vmlinuz is overwritten (didn't ask for confirmation, but md5sum checks out ok) 18:42 < [CTG]Wibra> now reboot? :) 18:42 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802D22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:48 < [CTG]Wibra> okay 18:48 < [CTG]Wibra> it got further this time, but still oopsed 18:49 < [CTG]Wibra> initrd: going to re-mount root now. 18:49 < [CTG]Wibra> vfs: cannot open root device "scsi/host1/../part1" or 00:00 18:50 < [CTG]Wibra> please append a correct root= boot option 18:50 < [CTG]Wibra> kernel panic: unable to mount root fs 18:52 < rxr> ah - ok 18:52 < rxr> you need to change root= from host1 to host0 18:52 < rxr> since now the ide-cdrom is not accessed as SCSI anymore (with this kernel) 18:52 * rxr is now swimming 18:52 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I hope others are here to help you 18:52 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 18:52 < rxr> I'm back in some hours 18:54 < [CTG]Wibra> it worked, i have a prompt! 18:54 * [CTG]Wibra is off for some r&r 19:05 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909191e.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:05 -!- [CTG]Wibra [wibra@D5E0A798.kabel.telenet.be] has left #rocklinux () 19:06 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M272P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:19 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M272P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 19:20 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M272P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:31 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M272P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 19:32 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M272P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 < nookie> rxr: Are you there? 19:41 < daja77> 18:52 * rxr is now swimming 19:42 < nookie> ah 19:42 < nookie> thank you danial 19:42 < daja77> np 19:42 < nookie> daniel 19:42 < nookie> :) 19:43 < daja77> in arabic it is indeed danial 19:43 < nookie> Hehe 19:43 < nookie> In "hebraeisch" it still get's write "daniel" :) 19:44 < daja77> well there is no e and no o in arabic ... 19:46 < nookie> they write backwards too... 19:48 < daja77> yepp from right to left 19:48 < daja77> except for numbers, there are left to write cos the come from india 19:48 < nookie> right 19:48 < nookie> the chinese people write from up to down 19:49 < daja77> heard sth like that 19:49 < daja77> <- never learned chinese 19:51 < nookie> Hehe. 19:51 < nookie> Damn, I need a bigger HD. 19:52 < daja77> hehe no room for movies ... 19:53 < nookie> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 19:53 < nookie> 7.3G 6.1G 932M 87% /home 19:53 < nookie> hehe 19:53 < daja77> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 19:53 < daja77> 66G 41G 22G 66% /scratch 19:54 < nookie> What contains your /scratch partition? 19:54 < daja77> needs some cleanup i guess 19:54 < daja77> several rock builds 19:54 < nookie> Ah. 19:54 < nookie> Most of them (all ;-)) are in my /home/Dev/Rock directory. 19:54 < nookie> /home/n00kie/Dev/Rock 19:54 < daja77> :) 19:55 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.30.120.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 < nookie> :) 19:56 * nookie np: DJ Hixxy - Set you Free (Remix) 19:56 * daja77 np: Johnny Cash- Hurt 19:56 < nookie> Johnny Cash? 19:57 < daja77> yepp, i have the video 19:57 < daja77> wanna have? 19:57 < nookie> I don't know him 19:57 < nookie> Don't know him :-) 19:57 < nookie> What does he makes for music? 19:57 < daja77> only 9mb video 19:57 < nookie> well, okay 19:57 < nookie> I can look at it :) 19:58 < daja77> wget https://207.36.117.143/video/cash_h_new.mov 19:58 < daja77> popular us musician who died some days ago 19:59 < nookie> ah 19:59 < nookie> Ahh 19:59 < nookie> now I know him again 19:59 < daja77> :) 19:59 < nookie> Is he the one with the burning ring of fire? 19:59 < daja77> dunno 19:59 < nookie> if so, I know him :) 20:01 < nookie> Hmm. 20:01 < nookie> Download aborted. :/ 20:01 < daja77> this site gets a lot of traffic 20:01 < daja77> you can continue downloads with wget 20:01 < nookie> Yes. 20:01 < nookie> But I don't enabled the option. 20:02 < nookie> Should've download it with -c 20:02 < nookie> :( 20:02 < daja77> wget -c 20:02 < nookie> yea 20:02 < daja77> just redo 20:02 < nookie> Well, let's try 20:03 < nookie> If I'm right I read, that the download has to get started with the -c option 20:07 < daja77> in the second try yes 20:07 < daja77> otherwise it grabs the file again from the beginning 20:10 < nookie> I get connection timeout when connecting to the server 20:10 < nookie> Well 20:10 < nookie> I'll download the video somewhere other :) 20:10 < nookie> thank you very much for that, daniel 20:10 < daja77> hmm can have it from me via isdn ... 20:12 < nookie> No, thank you 20:12 < nookie> Don't want to make you "Stress" :-) 20:12 < daja77> it is no 20:18 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABFE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < tcr> moin all 20:31 < daja77> moin tcr 20:34 < owl> moin 20:34 < tcr> Hmm, that's actually quite cool. the open version of Borland's Kylix is released under the GPL, that makes my heart swing (well, a bit at least ;)) 20:36 < tcr> Anyone having practical experience with cd-writing under 2.6? 20:37 < daja77> rofl, yeah that mean kylix belongs to us ... 20:38 < tcr> what's so funny? That fact will save me time and effort 20:41 * tcr eating Nudelsalat + H?hnchenfilet :P 20:41 < daja77> well i don't know if they knew what they were doin 20:41 < owl> *ARGH* "SYSTEMSTOERUNG" fscking vodafone! 20:42 < daja77> O_o 20:42 < owl> daja77: hm? 20:42 < tcr> daja77, hmm I think they've hided everything interesting in some library, though linking with gpl is a thing for itself, you know.. 20:42 < daja77> which vodafone service you are using 20:42 < owl> daja77: "vodafone-quickcheck" (online) 20:43 < daja77> you need that for what? 20:43 < owl> (kontostand-quickchat) 20:43 < owl> check 20:43 < owl> to see my kontostand 20:43 < owl> or better: how much money i needed 20:43 < daja77> ic 20:43 < tcr> for purchasing new makeup and so on? 20:44 < owl> tcr: *rofl* vodafone is selling makeup? KEWL! 20:44 < tcr> owl: no "how much money i needed" ... "for purchasing ..." 20:45 < daja77> nah guess how much she wasted for telephoning 20:46 < owl> yes... or better: writing sms and gprs 20:46 < daja77> rofl 20:46 < owl> <-- not phoning much because of hating phoneing 20:46 < owl> why are you rofling? 20:46 < daja77> sms is imo the worst form of communication 20:47 < owl> .oO(server is up again... and i'm not having toooo much money wasted) 20:47 < tcr> Btw. do you know that t-offline were about ``purchasing'' the right to exclusively use the letter 'T' as a capital? 20:47 < daja77> yes i know 20:47 < owl> yes, but if you're sitting in the bus or so, and there is no pc with inet there and no bf is sitting near my side... 20:47 < daja77> erh you could read a book then 20:48 < tcr> I usually print articles and essays and read them while sitting in the bus 20:48 < owl> *har* so you 're not allowed to write "T-elefon" or so? what should i do, if i have to split up words while analog writing? have i to pay for that? 20:48 < daja77> www.t-error.de ... 20:49 < owl> tcr: i normally listening to music and wirting sms... or sitting in bus, hacking on notebook, listening to music (+/- writing sms) 20:49 < tcr> Unfortunately my "patrone" (damn, fucking! I can't remember/keep in mind the english word) of my printer is empty, so I cant do that at the moment.... result: I have still about 10 articles to read, and the stack is getting more and more :/ 20:49 < owl> haha. wasted too much money on cigarettes and so? *vbeg* 20:50 < tcr> owl: Yeah, I read that in a satyrical comment which listed all nouns beginning with a T-, like T-shirt for instance 20:50 < tcr> owl: I neither smoke nor do I drink any alcohol 20:50 < owl> O_o ok 20:51 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530402.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 < rolla> grrr 20:54 < daja77> hehe hi rolla 20:54 < rolla> re daja77 20:54 < daja77> :) 20:54 < rolla> I hate it when my favorite site is slashdotted 20:54 < daja77> which is? 20:55 < rolla> https://www.insecure.org 20:55 < daja77> hehe 20:55 < daja77> updating openssh? 20:56 < rolla> nmap 20:56 < daja77> yeah it is nmap home 20:56 < rolla> ailed: Connection timed out. 20:56 < rolla> Retrying. 20:57 * daja77 currently updating openssh on his and granny's machine 20:57 < rolla> yeah another hole 20:58 < owl> hi rolla 20:58 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909191e.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:59 < owl> someone already has information about 20c3? (like: will there be busses, trains...?) 20:59 < daja77> no, there is some time 'til that 21:00 < owl> yeah... but when will normally the stuff be published? 21:00 < daja77> dunno 21:00 < daja77> guess in november 21:00 < owl> hm. k. thx 21:02 < rxr> re 21:06 < daja77> argl this laptop sucks 21:07 < daja77> bootsector invalid, after rock install *hmpf* 21:08 < rxr> it is not digitally signed by M$ ? 21:08 < rxr> *g* 21:09 < daja77> hehe 21:10 < tcr> "I think that when we put all the numbers together, we can estimate that there are a minimum of 30 billion Windows system crashes a year." 21:10 < tcr> ... "Thirty billion is the same as the estimated number of Earth-like planets in the Milky Way." 21:10 < tcr> Heh (https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp) 21:11 < daja77> .asp ... 21:11 < tcr> daja77, oh well, just the 'pcmag' should make you ponder ;) 21:12 < tcr> anyway, that article is short and quite funny 21:19 < jvc> does anybody know if the boot target should work? I have problems with mainly curses and terminfo 21:20 < tcr> jvc: I assume it ought to work, if it does is another question ;) 21:21 < jvc> in my situation it does not work, lots of problems compiling 21:21 < jvc> include files end up in wrong locations 21:22 < jvc> after moving the include file from /include/ncurses to /usr/include/ncurses most pkgs compile except for dump, but I hope I dont need that 21:23 * daja77 remembering esden working on dump ... 21:23 < jvc> by creating 2nd stage there are files missing for a bunch of terminfo files for instance usr/share/terminfo/v/vt100 21:24 < owl> better on dump than dumb 21:24 < rxr> jvc: oh - this /include stuff should already be fixed 21:25 < tcr> Wasn't there some issues with the bootdisk target lately? 21:25 < tcr> Ah. 21:25 < daja77> rxr: is there a special reason why i get all your mails twice? 21:25 < rxr> daja77: ehrm - haeh? 21:25 < jvc> the problems are with the bootdisk target 21:26 < daja77> rxr: for some strange reasons i got a bunch of your mails i already had 21:26 < jvc> and I updated via svn yesterday 21:26 < tcr> daja77, Only mails being a reply to a mail of you? 21:27 < daja77> no, rlml mails + commit mails 21:29 < daja77> hmm could be a local problem at my provider ... 21:29 < daja77> strange things happening today 21:30 < tcr> jvc: Yeah, it needs some thought why exactly new bugs cropp up when a different should actually be fixed.. 21:30 < tcr> .. and how to prevent it etc 21:31 < jvc> tcr: thats always nice to have, but is someone aware of the problems? 21:31 < tcr> jvc, well rxr just told you that the /include stuff should be fixed 21:32 < tcr> jvc: and for the remaining problems just write up a mail. It's generally better as mails are not as flushyflushy 21:32 < tcr> flushy 21:33 < tcr> damn 21:33 < tcr> some shortcuts don't work >:( 21:33 < jvc> tcr: I know, I just wanted to check if this is a known problem 21:34 < rxr> tcr: I'm not aware of more problems 21:34 < rxr> I built a install disk before the prefix='' commit and all was fine 21:34 < rxr> I'm going to rebuild now ... 21:35 < daja77> argl that vienna mirror sucks 21:36 < daja77> a plain 404 would be enoug *sigh* 21:36 < blindcoder> daja77: an a plain 404 you can't place banner-ads, can you? 21:37 < tcr> rxr: I didn't want to blame you :) It's just that rock is, from its nature, too complex and as a result too weak against slight modification of the environment (I mean, even small divergences can emerge to bigger problems) 21:37 < nookie> Mail out, now go to bed. 21:37 < nookie> Good night. 21:37 < tcr> gn8 nookie 21:38 < daja77> blindcoder: perhasp no, but i don't care, it just sucks that curl downloads a html file and the script gets puzzled by this crap 21:38 < blindcoder> daja77: well, unfortunately $BIGCOMPANY doesn't care about you or me 21:38 < daja77> ahem this is a university, no? 21:39 < blindcoder> hmm... then maybe it's "admins" who have too much time at their hands 21:39 < blindcoder> but I still laugh about VeriSign DDoS'ing themselves :D 21:39 < daja77> :) 21:40 < blindcoder> and the quick help people offered them: 21:40 < blindcoder> patches for bind and djbdns 21:40 < blindcoder> small commands that help: 21:40 < blindcoder> echo " Kill stupid VeriSign site..." 21:40 < blindcoder> $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -t nat -p tcp -d 64.94.110.11 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:2 21:40 < blindcoder> *whistle* 21:41 < blindcoder> and voila, took some DoS off of VeriSign :) 21:41 < blindcoder> (I love phrasing it that way :D) 21:42 < daja77> heeh, yes 21:47 < blindcoder> but what if they sue me now for stealing them traffic? After all, they have ads on that page... so my "help" will lead to gazillions of dollars in lost revenue... WAAAAAH 21:47 * blindcoder runs and hides in a dark corner where they won't find me 21:47 < blindcoder> (dark corner also known as my bed :-) 21:47 < blindcoder> good night, everyone! 21:50 < daja77> n8 blindcoder 21:50 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:53 < rxr> hi jvc 21:53 < rxr> erhm jsaw_ 21:54 < jvc> rxr: hi 21:54 < rxr> ;-) hi jvc - irrsi needs a better completation ;-) 21:54 < daja77> esden posted a link to a perl plugin which improves it ... 21:55 < jvc> rxr: ok, any results from your bootdisk build 21:59 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530402.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:04 < daja77> why are cksum errors not mentioned in src/Download-Errors? 22:08 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, jsaw, rolla, daja77, praenti, Freak, jvc, nookie, blindcoder, jsaw_, (+11 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nookie, snyke, aszlig, jsaw_, tcr, true, owl, jvc, Aard, Freak (+1 more) 22:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 22:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti, SMP, scythe_ 22:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, mnemoc, daja77 22:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: netrunne1, Nebukadneza 22:14 < daja77> hmm interesting 22:14 < daja77> Emerge-Pkg openssh shows me this 22:14 < daja77> == 20:14:03 =[9]=> Building base/openssh [3.7p1 2.0.0-rc2]. 22:14 < daja77> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: [: =: unary operator expected 22:14 < daja77> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 22:14 < daja77> seems to build anyway 22:22 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:22 < tcr> daja77, take a look at the last changesets on openssh. It's very likely that it got corrupted by one of them 22:24 < daja77> what do you want to tell me 22:27 < rxr> tcr: I do not think it is the last change - it is more liketly a config variable quoting or so .. 22:27 < daja77> yepp i think so 22:40 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABFE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:52 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4DDE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:52 < fake> hm, where has NickServ gone? 22:54 -!- [CTG]Wibra [wibra@D5E0A798.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #rocklinux 22:55 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508926F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:55 < ripclaw> helo 22:56 < ripclaw> any updates for rock ssh already? 22:59 < rxr> ripclaw: YES ;-) 23:00 < rxr> ripclaw: hi ,) 23:00 < ripclaw> rxr hi 23:00 < ripclaw> rxr pls check the servers installed binary stuff, too. i keep mailing clifford about certain machines, and he 23:01 < ripclaw> still runs way out of date versions of all kind of security relevant shxx, rxr 23:01 * ripclaw just updated the binar stuff on my 1.5.12 machiners 23:01 < rxr> my servers are updated 23:02 < ripclaw> rxr can i call you 23:02 < rxr> my main server even runs a jailed exim since a few days ... 23:02 < ripclaw> cool ! 23:02 < rxr> ripclaw: sure! please the static number ;-) 23:02 < ripclaw> rxr i only have mobile phone of you 23:03 < fake> hi ripclaw ! 23:05 < fake> narf... 23:05 < fake> i hate slow solaris boxen 23:06 < daja77> hi ripclaw & fake 23:06 < fake> (slow because some marketing drones don't know anything about database growth) 23:06 < ripclaw> hi all 23:06 < fake> hi daja77 23:06 < Pyro> rippy 23:07 < daja77> Pyro° 23:07 < daja77> will he ever be Mike1 again ... 23:08 < Pyro> not in a near time.. 23:08 < daja77> hehe you robot 23:09 * Pyro grabs his water pistol and shoots daja77 23:10 < daja77> [RHSA-2003:269-01] Updated KDE packages fix security issues 23:10 < daja77> nice ... 23:10 * daja77 grabs the gun from Pyro and shoots back 23:11 * daja77 now getting bigadmin newsletter from sun, wtf 23:13 < mnemoc> re 23:13 * ripclaw going for food soon 23:13 < daja77> enjoy! 23:15 * Pyro off for breakfast 23:15 < Pyro> cu later 23:15 * ripclaw is away: for food 23:16 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508926F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[x]chat") 23:16 < mnemoc> anybody objects if i allow kernel names like linux2.6.0-test6-benh69-ctx17-rsbac-rock ? 23:18 < [CTG]Wibra> benh69-ctx17-rsbac? 23:18 < [CTG]Wibra> no objection, just curious 23:19 < daja77> sounds horrible ... 23:20 < mnemoc> yes, but tells the true and respect the authors 23:20 < [CTG]Wibra> as u suggestion: name it rock-revxxx and mention somewhere else what the revision/autors are 23:20 < fake> linux-someversionwithmanypatches-by-me ? 23:21 < fake> linux-like-you-care ? 23:21 < mnemoc> depending the patches you add to it 23:21 < fake> linux-shut-up-and-just-boot-me 23:21 < [CTG]Wibra> linux-aard-aswlig-blindcoder-cytronix-........-version2.02 23:22 < rxr> linux-scsi-qla1280-4-[CTG]Wibra ;-) ?! 23:22 < mnemoc> :) 23:22 < Aard> [CTG]Wibra: hm? 23:22 < mnemoc> brb :-\ 23:23 < [CTG]Wibra> was just illustrating that everyone helping with the code should be mentioned in this way. don't know if you are a user or a coder 23:23 < fake> o/~ he's a user baby - so why don't you kill him ? o/~ 23:24 < mnemoc> i was just talking about appending extraversions :-\ 23:24 < fake> *g* 23:24 < [CTG]Wibra> lol fake 23:24 < fake> mnemoc: you are a well of inspiration 23:24 < daja77> hi Aard :) 23:24 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - ok - go for it ... 23:24 < mnemoc> thanks :) 23:24 < mnemoc> brb 23:24 < fake> mnemoc must be a muse ;) 23:25 < daja77> linux26-this-will-never-work-with-your-machine ;-) 23:25 < mnemoc> i have too much hear in my legs :( 23:25 < fake> o_O 23:25 < [CTG]Wibra> linux2.60-perhaps-windows-is-better-for-now 23:25 < daja77> rotfl 23:25 < fake> linux26-sponsored-by-sco ? 23:26 < Aard> hi and bbl :) 23:26 < daja77> fake: forget it, this will be precompiled binary ... 23:26 < fake> daja77: and you'll have to pay to get the header files. 23:27 < [CTG]Wibra> pff, finally have rock installed. onto typing commands like "man ls" and "man bash" :( 23:27 < daja77> this will be the: don't-touch-touch-it-there-are three-lines-of-original-unix-code-included-linux 23:28 < daja77> hehe yeah paying sco for saving us, from the pain of using free software 23:29 < fake> [ samba included in openserver ... ] 23:29 < daja77> yepp, most samba develeopers, had to shut up on this ... 23:29 < [CTG]Wibra> were do i find the config file which sets my keyboard language? 23:31 < rxr> [CTG]Wibra: I would recommend to run stone 23:31 < rxr> you can set it there 23:31 < rxr> most STONE / ROCK Linux specific config files are in /etc/conf ... 23:31 < [CTG]Wibra> ok 23:31 < [CTG]Wibra> as a future linux user i should know were i can manually set it, no? 23:32 < [CTG]Wibra> eek! no vi present 23:32 * daja77 'll see if he can fix that laptop manually 23:32 < [CTG]Wibra> whats the standard editor for rock? 23:32 < daja77> vim ... 23:32 < [CTG]Wibra> thx 23:33 < [CTG]Wibra> vim: command not found 23:33 < fake> nvi 23:33 < daja77> then your install is broken 23:33 < fake> export EDITOR=nvi 23:33 < daja77> *cough* 23:33 < fake> rm /usr/bin/vi && ln -s /usr/bin/nvi /usr/bin/vi 23:34 < fake> daja77: no vim in minimal target, i.e. 23:34 < daja77> oh really 23:34 < [CTG]Wibra> :p ;) 23:34 < daja77> <- hasn't used minimal so far 23:35 < fake> (read: generic target with minimal package selection template... *huff,huff*) 23:35 < daja77> :p i know 23:35 * daja77 will trying rock full bloat install on his laptop with 6gb hd ... 23:35 < [CTG]Wibra> didn't want anything grafical, so chose the minimal one 23:35 < fake> well, i was confused. suddenly my build id changed... 23:36 < [CTG]Wibra> hm; is this normal? "read-only filesystem" 23:36 < fake> where? 23:37 < [CTG]Wibra> when creating link (ln) or wehn just opening (or trying to) nvi 23:37 < fake> (at least better than a write only filesystem *frins*) 23:37 < netrunne1> [CTG]Wibra: mount -o remount,rw / 23:37 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 23:37 < daja77> hey netrunner is back 23:37 < fake> why is it mounted ro ? 23:37 < netrunner> daja77: much to work :) need money for zaurus 760 23:38 < daja77> netrunner: hehe, btw is your server back online? 23:38 * fake declares this e100 as "x.x dead as can be" 23:38 < netrunner> daja77: yeah, should be. but no ssl this time since i use 443 for transconnect. 23:39 < daja77> don't need ssl 23:39 < [CTG]Wibra> all my discs are rw 23:39 < [CTG]Wibra> or seem to be 23:39 * netrunner takes a lot of hw from his company ... stuff they declare crap like 5 isdn routers, 2 isdn telefones, a hp unix workstation 23:39 -!- [CTG]Wibra is now known as [n00b]Wibra 23:40 < fake> is there _anything_ top-like on solaris 8 BESIDES prstat (which is not there) ? 23:40 < jsaw_> re 23:40 < fake> omfg 23:40 < fake> solaris 7 ... 23:40 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 23:40 < fake> netrunner: hp workstation? which one? 23:41 < daja77> <- has a 710 23:41 < fake> <- has some apollo 23:42 < rxr> hi jsaw 23:42 < netrunner> fake: uhm ... 23:43 < jsaw> hi rxr 23:44 < netrunner> fake: it says HP VISUALIZE 81352 23:44 * fake wants 23:44 < jsaw> rxr: fresh build: tcsh and wdiff try to link termcap, mine tries curses (which is build, but as libncurses)... 23:45 < rxr> jsaw: install or generic? 23:45 < jsaw> rxr: generic 23:45 < jsaw> rxr: mostly default settings 23:45 < rxr> ok - momemnt 23:45 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-64.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 23:45 < netrunner> fake: ya know what I have there? tell me something! :) 23:46 * netrunner just saw a dvi connector ... but has 2 free pci slots, maybe I'll request my matrox mga from esden back 23:48 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-170-64.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:48 < rene> re 23:48 -!- rene is now known as rxr 23:48 < rxr> my screen was in some way freaked ... 23:48 < rxr> jsaw: could you propose patches for the problems you got ? 23:49 * netrunner -> bed 23:50 < daja77> hmm this is really frightening me, grub says all went fine with the install, but mbr is invalid afterwards 23:50 < daja77> had this problem before beta6 and now again 23:51 < jsaw> rxr: sorry, no. I'm too busy finishing stuff for my boss. Maybe late this night... 23:51 < mnemoc> https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/14/2247230 <-- :-( 23:53 < daja77> oh my that was predictable 23:53 < rxr> jsaw: yeah sure - I did not meant immidiately ... 23:57 < daja77> hmm is this a bad sign when the chrooted part can't be umounted? 23:58 < rxr> daja77: usually user error 23:58 < rxr> a bash still in it - or dev and proc moutned 23:58 < rxr> or daemon running (gpm ?) 23:58 < Freak> daja77: yup. 23:58 < daja77> nope 23:58 < Freak> daja77: I always thought it was just a question of time. 23:58 < Freak> of course they have not taken action yet. 23:59 < rxr> Freak: just a matter of time 23:59 < daja77> ah ic, yepp i mounted devfs in chroot, had to ... --- Log closed Wed Sep 17 00:00:03 2003