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--- Log opened Sat Sep 20 00:00:04 2003 --- Day changed Sat Sep 20 2003 00:00 < rxr> daja77: what are you argh-ing ? 00:01 < daja77> <- updated too early 00:01 < daja77> don't worry 00:01 < mnemoc> he is not happy with my achievement :( 00:02 < daja77> mnemoc: hehe i can tell you more in some minutes 00:03 < daja77> wee architechture hppa 00:03 < daja77> cool i should really activate my hp box 00:06 < tcr> mnemoc, gasgui depends on libdialog.a which might be dependant on a libcurses.a 00:07 < daja77> tatam, mine still fails :( 00:07 -!- cytrinox` is now known as cytrinox 00:07 < mnemoc> did you rebuild ncurses? 00:08 < daja77> oh 00:08 < daja77> <- dumbass 00:08 < daja77> sorry 00:08 < mnemoc> rxr: libtool patch is needed to build _at least_ shadow 00:10 < daja77> what is the name of that package exactly 00:10 < rxr> mnemoc: yes? what tricks do the shadow people do? 00:10 < mnemoc> libtool runs ranlib on 'postinstall' 00:11 < daja77> ok found it 00:11 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009025.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:12 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-zh-12-2-dialup-196.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 00:14 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.13.27.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 < daja77> *hmpf* ncurses rebuild failed 00:19 < daja77> mnemoc: want the errors in query? 00:21 * rxr off - cu 00:21 < daja77> cu rxr 00:28 < daja77> guess we will fix that tomorrow 00:28 < daja77> <- off soon 00:31 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.34.56.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 00:31 < daja77> cu 00:34 < mnemoc> daja77: send them 01:03 -!- kiki_ [~kiki@200.72.82.167] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:05 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:05 < fake> hi. 01:05 < mnemoc> hi fake 01:16 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9673.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:37 < netrunne1> hi 01:37 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 01:55 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E7AAC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("bye bye") 01:58 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-142.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 02:09 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009025.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 03:50 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-zh-12-2-dialup-196.freesurf.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:41 -!- fake_ [~fake@pD9EB7644.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:59 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:15 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox` 06:19 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.47.27.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:32 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F60D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 08:32 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F60D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:36 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FEDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F60D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 09:37 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 09:45 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091960.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:45 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839382.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:21 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M301P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:23 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-109.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:30 < netrunner> moin 10:42 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-082-082-080-031.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:51 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M301P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 10:56 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-109.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:13 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:16 < netrunner> while scripts/Update-System: samba hangs in configure: checking statvfs64 function (SVR4)... 11:17 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:18 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:29 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839382.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 11:30 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839382.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:38 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:38 < holyolli> moin 12:42 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839382.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 12:52 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:52 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 12:58 < daja77> moin 12:59 < holyolli_> moin daja77 12:59 < daja77> moin holyolli_ 13:00 < daja77> <- breakfast, cu later 13:00 < holyolli_> guten hunger! 13:00 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:00 -!- holyolli_ is now known as holyolli 13:04 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:14 -!- rammi [~ram@195.252.80.82] has joined #rocklinux 13:15 < rammi> hi 13:20 -!- rammi [~ram@195.252.80.82] has quit ("Client exiting") 13:32 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-3-2-dialup-93.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9E4DA83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD9522A08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:34 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:35 < fake_> hm 14:35 -!- fake_ is now known as fake 14:36 < fake> better. 14:45 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-228.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("X-Chat: its everywhere you want to be") 15:05 < netrunner> hm ... not that much action today, everybody at the beerfestival? 15:06 * fake surely not! 15:13 * fake off 15:13 < fake> bye 15:13 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB7644.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("BitchX: now Y2K compatible!") 15:15 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.184.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.47.27.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:44 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9E4DA83.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:45 < daja77> re 15:57 < Freak> https://www.nzz.ch/2003/09/20/al/page-newzzDKTI1FLO-12.html 15:57 < daja77> moin Freak 15:59 < daja77> ha! who said they won afghanistan 16:04 -!- cytrinox` is now known as cytrinox 16:08 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.7.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:16 < Freak> yup. and again: https://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/09/19/iraq.italy.ap/index.html 16:22 < daja77> hmmm 16:25 < Freak> hmmm? 16:25 < netrunner> hm. 16:25 < Freak> hmhm.+ 16:27 < daja77> :) 16:28 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.184.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:29 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.7.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:38 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.7.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:41 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-3-2-dialup-93.freesurf.ch] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:42 < mnemoc> daja77: /me at stage 9 of my minimal :) 16:43 < mnemoc> 192 builds total, 129 completed fine, 0 with errors. 16:45 < daja77> 192 total, and 129 final, how that 16:45 < daja77> <- killed his borken build 16:45 < netrunner> mnemoc: jsut for interest, how big is the / of minimal? 16:45 < mnemoc> 9-gcc33... 16:46 < mnemoc> # grep "^X" config/base/packages | wc -l 16:46 < mnemoc> 69 16:46 < mnemoc> oops... the root ... wait 16:48 < mnemoc> 130M total 16:48 < mnemoc> includes gcc w/java 16:49 < mnemoc> # du -csh bin boot command etc home lib mnt root sbin var | tr '\n' '\t' 16:49 < mnemoc> 2.7M bin 5.1M boot 6.5K command 1.5M etc 512 home 26M lib 512 mnt 4.5K root 3.9M sbin 92M var 131M total 16:49 < mnemoc> var is fat 16:55 < mnemoc> daja77: e2fsprogs and libtools patches are not already at the trunk, but they are available on the ml 16:59 < daja77> applied and build started 17:01 < mnemoc> i'll patch ncurses to 755 libs and to create libcurses.a, but this is 'just for fun' 17:02 < daja77> hmm guess i don't need that patch? 17:03 < mnemoc> guess that too 17:03 < daja77> *sigh* 17:03 < mnemoc> go for it!! 17:04 < daja77> hm? 17:04 < daja77> go for what 17:04 < mnemoc> go for your new build ;) 17:04 < daja77> yepp already doin 17:04 < daja77> :) 17:08 < mnemoc> (rxr doesn't trust my extraversion patch :'( ) 17:15 * daja77 gives mnemoc a cookie 17:16 < mnemoc> thanks :( 17:16 < daja77> hmm still not smiling 17:18 < mnemoc> i'll smile when i see the 4 pending patches on the trunk ;) 17:19 < daja77> *sigh* then i keep the rest of the cookies for myself 17:19 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.18.166.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 < mnemoc> i need a cup of tea.... brb 17:36 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.7.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:45 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839382.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:30 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD9522A08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x") 18:33 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802DA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802E2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:39 < blindcoder> hi 18:39 < blindcoder> anyone got an idea where a firewire-cable could get lost? 18:40 -!- oliver [~oliver@pD9587B1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:47 < daja77> hmm everywhere 18:48 < blindcoder> damn... 18:48 < blindcoder> because I need it right now and can't find it anymore >_< 18:48 < daja77> :) 18:48 < blindcoder> I need to download the recording of the Demo in Munich from yesterday >_< 18:55 < netrunne1> blindcoder: you've been there? 18:55 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 18:56 < blindcoder> netrunner: yes 18:56 < blindcoder> fake also 19:00 < netrunner> damn ... didn't make it :( how was it? 19:02 < mnemoc> SMP: my english can be bad, but i'm not the stupid you like to show me as 19:09 -!- oliver [~oliver@pD9587B1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:12 < blindcoder> netrunner: not bad, SPD and Gruene had some political talk, and a small companies suit also had a little bit to say 19:12 < blindcoder> 300-400 people estimated 19:13 < SMP> mnemoc: I know. it just appears to me we're having this discussion because some people don't know ... 19:13 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:14 < mnemoc> SMP: ok :) .... i'm proud to anounce i'm finishing stage 9 of my minimal :) 19:15 < mnemoc> libtool and e2fsprogs patch are needed to achieve that 19:15 < mnemoc> i hope pacakges not in my minimal don't need to get patched 19:16 < SMP> as I already explained, I don't like this solution 19:16 < SMP> but I'm way too tired right now 19:16 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-8-2-dialup-208.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-8-2-dialup-208.freesurf.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 19:49 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839382.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:50 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M343P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:54 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M343P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 19:55 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M343P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M343P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 19:59 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M343P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M343P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 20:28 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA95FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < tcr> moin all 21:06 < mnemoc> moin tcr 21:12 -!- mnemoc is now known as __mnemoc 21:15 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD9522CFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:30 < __mnemoc> is plex86 dead? 21:37 < daja77> .oO got mail from sourceforge: As you may have noticed, CVS is visibly having growing pains. ... 21:40 < __mnemoc> we noticed that :) 21:40 -!- christ|an [~christian@p50839523.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 < __mnemoc> wtf is this verisgn's sitefinder? how did it set my mozilla to use it???? 21:47 < rxr> re 21:47 < __mnemoc> how can be everything resovled to 64.94.110.11???? 21:48 < rxr> __mnemoc: DNS <- wildcard 21:50 < __mnemoc> but but but.... is that sth. legal??? they own the root servers? 21:50 < rxr> https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/0034210&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=95&tid=98&tid=99 21:50 < rxr> this thing generated lots of press - and also got already to the courts ... 21:51 < rxr> set it to 127.0.0.2 in your hosts.conf 21:55 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD95069BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 < __mnemoc> -> Creating isofs.txt file .. 21:58 * __mnemoc happy :) 22:00 < __mnemoc> 192 builds total, 192 completed fine, 0 with errors. 22:05 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091960.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:05 < daja77> weee build reached stage 5 again 22:07 < __mnemoc> you are welcome daja77 :) 22:07 < tcr> __mnemoc, is ncurses/libs_are_x.patch really necessary? Couldn't that be done in $premake? (or wouldn't the flist_wrapper catch it then?) 22:08 < __mnemoc> not necesary but clean 22:09 < daja77> __mnemoc: thx 22:09 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@pD9522CFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x") 22:09 < __mnemoc> what do u want to do on premake? 22:09 < daja77> rxr: erh could there be a mistake in your mail, concerning rc network script description?? 22:09 < daja77> -? 22:10 < rxr> daja77: hm ? 22:10 < rxr> what error ? 22:10 < tcr> __mnemoc, well something like chmod a+x /usr/lib/lib[n]curses*.so 22:10 < rxr> __mnemoc: the patch is now applied - I do not know what user error it was the last two times to not make it shop up in svn:HEAD .... 22:10 < daja77> you said use: /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start or rc /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start 22:10 < __mnemoc> tcr: aaa... postmake :) 22:11 < rxr> yes, and ? 22:11 < daja77> wondering if the second should have been rc network start 22:11 < rxr> no - I do not think so ... 22:11 < daja77> why 22:11 < rxr> oh - this works, too. Nice never tried this ... 22:12 < daja77> :) 22:12 < __mnemoc> tcr: ncurses installs lib{ncurses,form,menu,panel}.so 22:13 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E287.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:14 < tcr> __mnemoc, oh yeah of course.. silly me 22:14 < __mnemoc> chmod a+x lib{ncurses,form,menu,panel}.so 22:14 < __mnemoc> thats simple, do you see it cleaner? 22:16 < tcr> __mnemoc, if that's really what your patch would result in, then I strongly advocate it. Patches are predestined to get dated quicklier than such a $postmake 22:18 < __mnemoc> this MAkefile uses install_data for everything diffenret than .so, and install_lib just for .so. i choose to patch it considering 1) i like clean .conf files :) and 2) they can add new libs making the .conf obsolete 22:19 < __mnemoc> but patching arbitrarily pacakges is not good either 22:20 < __mnemoc> opinions? :( 22:21 < tcr> __mnemoc, that's right. Hmm. is it possible to pass INSTALL_LIB to make? 22:22 < __mnemoc> i think so, do you want to tesT? ;) 22:25 < __mnemoc> ok ok... i'll do it :( 22:26 < tcr> are you busy? 22:26 < __mnemoc> yes :( 22:27 < tcr> Ok, I'll do that then, but now I go on toilet first 22:27 < daja77> do you really have to announce this ... 22:29 < tcr> your point? 22:30 < daja77> well forget it 22:30 < tcr> Maybe I should even mention that I have a very bad diarrhea with suspicion to salmonella 22:31 < tcr> I don't feel funny about any comment on this, ok? 22:31 < __mnemoc> o_O 22:31 < daja77> i did not make any funny comment in the last few minutes 22:47 -!- rammi [~ram@195.252.80.101] has joined #rocklinux 22:57 < tcr> __mnemoc, Pff.. I haven't seen that this patch was against the configure script 23:02 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009025.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 < __mnemoc> tcr: do you feel better? 23:07 < tcr> Well, yes.. don't have fever etc anymore 23:10 < __mnemoc> good.. let's rock! ;) 23:18 < tcr> __mnemoc, could you run the test build? I don't have a build chroot 23:19 < __mnemoc> ok i'll test sending INSTALL_LIB to make install 23:19 < tcr> __mnemoc, I'll tell you what you have to change, mom 23:22 < tcr> __mnemoc, you have to add to $makeopt the following: 'INSTALL_LIB=$(INSTALL) -m 755' 23:22 < tcr> screwed wordorder 23:23 < __mnemoc> makeopt? isn't maikeinsopt (or something like this)? 23:23 < tcr> ack 23:24 < __mnemoc> var_append makeinstopt ' ' 'INSTALL_LIB=$(INSTALL) -m 755' and libs_are_x.patch disabled... 23:25 < tcr> yes, I guess that should work 23:25 -!- rammi [~ram@195.252.80.101] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:26 * __mnemoc hates Re-Re-Re-Re-running configuration: loop 23:33 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:35 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:49 * daja77 happy to run build in screen, otherwise i'd have killed it :) 23:50 < Freak> =) 23:50 < Freak> its always a good idea to run such things either on console or on screen or even on a non-worked-at-box ;) 23:50 < daja77> <- accidently quitted xterm ... 23:50 < Freak> would you make me a screenshot? 23:51 * __mnemoc happy to run build in screen on putty on an RDP session :) 23:51 < daja77> Freak: from the build? 23:51 < Freak> (no that has nothing to do with you quitting xterm, I'm just curious) 23:51 < Freak> no .. just.. to see what you see 23:51 * Freak likes screenshooting :) 23:51 < Freak> and screenshotwatching too 23:52 < Freak> heres my latest https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20030920_22.53.30.png 23:52 < Freak> and the one before that, only showing osx (but actually running inside linux, too) https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/MacOS%20X/20030920_22.42.17.png 23:54 < Freak> actually I still think osx is pretty. 23:54 < Freak> its just totally useless ;) 23:54 < Freak> to me. 23:55 < rxr> Freak: the screenshot is ROCK or Debian? 23:55 < Freak> I fear it's debian. 23:55 < Freak> :) 23:55 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/build-rock.jpg 23:56 < tcr> Well macosx is said to JustWork 23:56 < Freak> 404 23:56 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-chat.jpg 23:57 < Freak> tcr: but it's plain useless to me. 23:57 < Freak> and the windowmanager is crap 23:57 < tcr> Well 23:57 < daja77> s/build-rock/build-screen 23:57 < daja77> sorry 23:59 < daja77> two of my 6 workspaces 23:59 < daja77> :) 23:59 < Freak> hum --- Log closed Sun Sep 21 00:00:15 2003