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--- Day changed Sat Sep 20 2003
00:00 < rxr> daja77: what are you argh-ing ?
00:01 < daja77> <- updated too early
00:01 < daja77> don't worry
00:01 < mnemoc> he is not happy with my achievement :(
00:02 < daja77> mnemoc: hehe i can tell you more in some minutes
00:03 < daja77> wee architechture hppa
00:03 < daja77> cool i should really activate my hp box
00:06 < tcr> mnemoc, gasgui depends on libdialog.a which might be dependant on a libcurses.a
00:07 < daja77> tatam, mine still fails :(
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00:07 < mnemoc> did you rebuild ncurses?
00:08 < daja77> oh
00:08 < daja77> <- dumbass
00:08 < daja77> sorry
00:08 < mnemoc> rxr: libtool patch is needed to build _at least_ shadow
00:10 < daja77> what is the name of that package exactly
00:10 < rxr> mnemoc: yes? what tricks do the shadow people do?
00:10 < mnemoc> libtool runs ranlib on 'postinstall'
00:11 < daja77> ok found it
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00:17 < daja77> *hmpf* ncurses rebuild failed
00:19 < daja77> mnemoc: want the errors in query?
00:21 * rxr off - cu
00:21 < daja77> cu rxr
00:28 < daja77> guess we will fix that tomorrow
00:28 < daja77> <- off soon
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00:31 < daja77> cu
00:34 < mnemoc> daja77: send them
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01:05 < fake> hi.
01:05 < mnemoc> hi fake 
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01:37 < netrunne1> hi
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10:30 < netrunner> moin
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11:16 < netrunner> while scripts/Update-System: samba hangs in configure: checking statvfs64 function (SVR4)... 
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12:38 < holyolli> moin
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12:58 < daja77> moin
12:59 < holyolli_> moin daja77
12:59 < daja77> moin holyolli_ 
13:00 < daja77> <- breakfast, cu later
13:00 < holyolli_> guten hunger!
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13:15 < rammi> hi
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14:35 < fake_> hm
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14:36 < fake> better.
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15:05 < netrunner> hm ... not that much action today, everybody at the beerfestival?
15:06 * fake surely not!
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15:13 < fake> bye
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15:45 < daja77> re
15:57 < Freak> http://www.nzz.ch/2003/09/20/al/page-newzzDKTI1FLO-12.html
15:57 < daja77> moin Freak 
15:59 < daja77> ha! who said they won afghanistan
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16:16 < Freak> yup. and again: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/09/19/iraq.italy.ap/index.html
16:22 < daja77> hmmm
16:25 < Freak> hmmm?
16:25 < netrunner> hm.
16:25 < Freak> hmhm.+
16:27 < daja77> :)
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16:42 < mnemoc> daja77: /me at stage 9 of my minimal :)
16:43 < mnemoc> 192 builds total, 129 completed fine, 0 with errors.
16:45 < daja77> 192 total, and 129 final, how that
16:45 < daja77> <- killed his borken build
16:45 < netrunner> mnemoc: jsut for interest, how big is the / of minimal?
16:45 < mnemoc> 9-gcc33... 
16:46 < mnemoc> # grep "^X" config/base/packages | wc -l
16:46 < mnemoc>      69
16:46 < mnemoc> oops... the root ... wait
16:48 < mnemoc> 130M    total
16:48 < mnemoc> includes gcc w/java 
16:49 < mnemoc> # du -csh bin boot command etc home lib mnt root sbin var | tr '\n' '\t'
16:49 < mnemoc> 2.7M    bin     5.1M    boot    6.5K    command 1.5M    etc     512     home    26M     lib     512     mnt     4.5K    root    3.9M    sbin    92M     var  131M     total 
16:49 < mnemoc> var is fat
16:55 < mnemoc> daja77: e2fsprogs and libtools patches are not already at the trunk, but they are available on the ml
16:59 < daja77> applied and build started
17:01 < mnemoc> i'll patch ncurses to 755 libs and to create libcurses.a, but this is 'just for fun'
17:02 < daja77> hmm guess i don't need that patch?
17:03 < mnemoc> guess that too
17:03 < daja77> *sigh*
17:03 < mnemoc> go for it!!
17:04 < daja77> hm?
17:04 < daja77> go for what
17:04 < mnemoc> go for your new build ;)
17:04 < daja77> yepp already doin
17:04 < daja77> :)
17:08 < mnemoc> (rxr doesn't trust my extraversion patch :'( )
17:15 * daja77 gives mnemoc a cookie
17:16 < mnemoc> thanks :(
17:16 < daja77> hmm still not smiling
17:18 < mnemoc> i'll smile when i see the 4 pending patches on the trunk ;)
17:19 < daja77> *sigh* then i keep the rest of the cookies for myself
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17:20 < mnemoc> i need a cup of tea.... brb
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18:39 < blindcoder> hi
18:39 < blindcoder> anyone got an idea where a firewire-cable could get lost?
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18:47 < daja77> hmm everywhere
18:48 < blindcoder> damn...
18:48 < blindcoder> because I need it right now and can't find it anymore >_<
18:48 < daja77> :)
18:48 < blindcoder> I need to download the recording of the Demo in Munich from yesterday >_<
18:55 < netrunne1> blindcoder: you've been there?
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18:56 < blindcoder> netrunner: yes
18:56 < blindcoder> fake also
19:00 < netrunner> damn ... didn't make it :( how was it?
19:02 < mnemoc> SMP: my english can be bad, but i'm not the stupid you like to show me as
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19:12 < blindcoder> netrunner: not bad, SPD and Gruene had some political talk, and a small companies suit also had a little bit to say
19:12 < blindcoder> 300-400 people estimated
19:13 < SMP> mnemoc: I know. it just appears to me we're having this discussion because some people don't know ...
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19:14 < mnemoc> SMP: ok :) .... i'm proud to anounce i'm finishing stage 9 of my minimal :)
19:15 < mnemoc> libtool and e2fsprogs patch are needed to achieve that
19:15 < mnemoc> i hope pacakges not in my minimal don't need to get patched
19:16 < SMP> as I already explained, I don't like this solution
19:16 < SMP> but I'm way too tired right now
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20:33 < tcr> moin all
21:06 < mnemoc> moin tcr
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21:30 < __mnemoc> is plex86 dead?
21:37 < daja77> .oO got mail from sourceforge: As you may have noticed, CVS is visibly having growing pains. ...
21:40 < __mnemoc> we noticed that :)
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21:42 < __mnemoc> wtf is this verisgn's sitefinder? how did it set my mozilla to use it????
21:47 < rxr> re
21:47 < __mnemoc> how can be everything resovled to 64.94.110.11????
21:48 < rxr> __mnemoc: DNS <- wildcard
21:50 < __mnemoc> but but but.... is that sth. legal??? they own the root servers?
21:50 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/0034210&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=95&tid=98&tid=99
21:50 < rxr> this thing generated lots of press - and also got already to the courts ...
21:51 < rxr> set it to 127.0.0.2 in your hosts.conf
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21:58 < __mnemoc> -> Creating isofs.txt file ..
21:58 * __mnemoc happy :)
22:00 < __mnemoc> 192 builds total, 192 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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22:05 < daja77> weee build reached stage 5 again
22:07 < __mnemoc> you are welcome daja77 :)
22:07 < tcr> __mnemoc, is ncurses/libs_are_x.patch really necessary? Couldn't that be done in $premake? (or wouldn't the flist_wrapper catch it then?)
22:08 < __mnemoc> not necesary but clean
22:09 < daja77> __mnemoc: thx
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22:09 < __mnemoc> what do u want to do on premake?
22:09 < daja77> rxr: erh could there be a mistake in your mail, concerning rc network script description??
22:09 < daja77> -?
22:10 < rxr> daja77: hm ?
22:10 < rxr> what error ?
22:10 < tcr> __mnemoc, well something like chmod a+x /usr/lib/lib[n]curses*.so
22:10 < rxr> __mnemoc: the patch is now applied - I do not know what user error it was the last two times to not make it shop up in svn:HEAD ....
22:10 < daja77> you said use: /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start or  rc /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
22:10 < __mnemoc> tcr: aaa... postmake :)
22:11 < rxr> yes, and ?
22:11 < daja77> wondering if the second should have been rc network start
22:11 < rxr> no - I do not think so ...
22:11 < daja77> why
22:11 < rxr> oh - this works, too. Nice never tried this ...
22:12 < daja77> :)
22:12 < __mnemoc> tcr: ncurses installs lib{ncurses,form,menu,panel}.so 
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22:14 < tcr> __mnemoc, oh yeah of course.. silly me
22:14 < __mnemoc> chmod a+x lib{ncurses,form,menu,panel}.so
22:14 < __mnemoc> thats simple, do you see it cleaner?
22:16 < tcr> __mnemoc, if that's really what your patch would result in, then I strongly advocate it. Patches are predestined to get dated quicklier than such a $postmake
22:18 < __mnemoc> this MAkefile uses install_data for everything diffenret than .so, and install_lib just for .so. i choose to patch it considering 1) i like clean .conf files :) and 2) they can add new libs making the .conf obsolete
22:19 < __mnemoc> but patching arbitrarily pacakges is not good either 
22:20 < __mnemoc> opinions? :(
22:21 < tcr> __mnemoc, that's right. Hmm. is it possible to pass INSTALL_LIB to make?
22:22 < __mnemoc> i think so, do you want to tesT? ;)
22:25 < __mnemoc> ok ok... i'll do it :(
22:26 < tcr> are you busy?
22:26 < __mnemoc> yes :(
22:27 < tcr> Ok, I'll do that then, but now I go on toilet first
22:27 < daja77> do you really have to announce this ...
22:29 < tcr> your point?
22:30 < daja77> well forget it
22:30 < tcr> Maybe I should even mention that I have a very bad diarrhea with suspicion to salmonella
22:31 < tcr> I don't feel funny about any comment on this, ok?
22:31 < __mnemoc> o_O
22:31 < daja77> i did not make any funny comment in the last few minutes
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22:57 < tcr> __mnemoc, Pff.. I haven't seen that this patch was against the configure script
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23:06 < __mnemoc> tcr: do you feel better?
23:07 < tcr> Well, yes.. don't have fever etc anymore
23:10 < __mnemoc> good.. let's rock! ;) 
23:18 < tcr> __mnemoc, could you run the test build? I don't have a build chroot
23:19 < __mnemoc> ok i'll test sending INSTALL_LIB to make install
23:19 < tcr> __mnemoc, I'll tell you what you have to change, mom
23:22 < tcr> __mnemoc, you have to add to $makeopt the following: 'INSTALL_LIB=$(INSTALL) -m 755'
23:22 < tcr> screwed wordorder
23:23 < __mnemoc> makeopt? isn't maikeinsopt (or something like this)?
23:23 < tcr> ack
23:24 < __mnemoc> var_append makeinstopt ' ' 'INSTALL_LIB=$(INSTALL) -m 755' and libs_are_x.patch disabled...
23:25 < tcr> yes, I guess that should work
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23:49 * daja77 happy to run build in screen, otherwise i'd have killed it :)
23:50 < Freak> =)
23:50 < Freak> its always a good idea to run such things either on console or on screen or even on a non-worked-at-box ;)
23:50 < daja77> <- accidently quitted xterm ...
23:50 < Freak> would you make me a screenshot?
23:51 * __mnemoc happy to run build in screen on putty on an RDP session :)
23:51 < daja77> Freak: from the build?
23:51 < Freak> (no that has nothing to do with you quitting xterm, I'm just curious)
23:51 < Freak> no .. just.. to see what you see
23:51 * Freak likes screenshooting :)
23:51 < Freak> and screenshotwatching too
23:52 < Freak> heres my latest http://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20030920_22.53.30.png
23:52 < Freak> and the one before that, only showing osx (but actually running inside linux, too) http://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/MacOS%20X/20030920_22.42.17.png
23:54 < Freak> actually I still think osx is pretty.
23:54 < Freak> its just totally useless ;)
23:54 < Freak> to me.
23:55 < rxr> Freak: the screenshot is ROCK or Debian?
23:55 < Freak> I fear it's debian.
23:55 < Freak> :)
23:55 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/build-rock.jpg
23:56 < tcr> Well macosx is said to JustWork
23:56 < Freak> 404
23:56 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-chat.jpg
23:57 < Freak> tcr: but it's plain useless to me.
23:57 < Freak> and the windowmanager is crap
23:57 < tcr> Well
23:57 < daja77> s/build-rock/build-screen
23:57 < daja77> sorry
23:59 < daja77> two of my 6 workspaces
23:59 < daja77> :)
23:59 < Freak> hum
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