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--- Log opened Wed Sep 24 00:00:09 2003 00:03 < __mnemoc> re all :) 00:04 < esden> hi __mnemoc 00:05 < __mnemoc> hi esden, hi lorini 00:05 < rxr> hi esden 00:05 < __mnemoc> hi rex 00:05 < esden> well well a ups with a halflife of 245 years or so ... very nice 00:06 < esden> hi rxr 00:06 < rxr> this crap damn windows - after it messed up itself it also messed up the sis900 network chip and it doesn't work anymore in linux 00:06 < rxr> I get crazy 00:06 < esden> have you tryed to update the firmware ? 00:06 < __mnemoc> how? 00:07 < rxr> nope 00:07 * -> esden loves modem connections ... $%&%^*#@ 00:07 < rxr> I just booted windows XP (the first time for eight months) and called M$ for the reg number 00:07 < rxr> I rebooted since Verena wanted to use "her" laptop - and wanted to reboot into crap-os 00:08 < rxr> it freezes on boot now ... 00:08 < esden> sik 00:08 < rxr> only the safe-mode without network is functional 00:08 < esden> my condolences for the dead nic 00:08 < rxr> and yes I have a valid M$ license for this XP - a academic one form the Uni - so it shoul't be a self-destruction code from M$ ... 00:10 < rxr> and all this because I wanted to track why the f*cled IE does not render a commercial page of mine correctly - the IE for Mac (which I of course have a license for due to my iBook) does render it perfectly - but the Mac IE is magnitudes better then the Win IE anyway (the mac-team at M$ must have rewritten that beast 100% ...) 00:11 < esden> rxr the mac and win ie groups are very very big enemies you know? 00:14 < rxr> heared s.th. like that - but I do not care. 00:15 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ("Ich bin doch der Liebling der Götter..") 00:15 < rxr> we need to convince more dau users to use ROCK Linux (or another one) - so I do not need to boot a damned Windows just to verify some .html file does render correctly in this buggy² browser 00:17 < esden> ACK 00:17 < __mnemoc> rxr: you can use rdesktop and ask for a account somewhere 00:18 < rxr> __mnemoc: you seem to volunteer? 00:19 < __mnemoc> by int'l bw is pathetic :-\ 00:19 < __mnemoc> s/by/my/ 00:20 < __mnemoc> do u really want it? 00:22 < rxr> ;-) If this damn XP does not want to coem back, maybe ... 00:23 < esden> rxr: use vmware/wine to rum ie for test purposes ... 00:23 < __mnemoc> rxr: no problem 00:23 < esden> s/rum/run/ 00:23 < __mnemoc> esden: does it run on wine? 00:23 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:23 < esden> yes it does and that faster,better(more stable) then on native win 00:24 < __mnemoc> i'll have to try it 00:24 < esden> but it is pretty much work to get it running afaik 00:25 < rxr> this damn windows# 00:25 < esden> iirc fake had it running on wine some time ago 00:25 < rxr> after power-unplug the laptop the nic shows up in linux again (no EEPROM ERROR read FFFF ...) 00:25 < rxr> but doing ifconfig eth0 ... freezes the linux box now, too 00:25 < rxr> this get's boring ... 00:31 < __mnemoc> power-unplug it again :) 00:31 -!- __mnemoc is now known as mnemoc 00:33 < rxr> yes already did this ... 00:33 < rxr> a short power-off does not help anyway - I tried this first - only some multi minute un-plug helped ... 00:34 < fake> re 00:34 < esden> hi fake 00:35 < esden> fake: scrollback? 00:35 * fake reading 00:35 < mnemoc> try pci-unpluging the nic 00:35 < mnemoc> mmm... laptop 00:35 < mnemoc> sorry =( 00:36 < fake> ie under wine, yes 00:36 < fake> works, but a damn lot of work for a damn ugly browser 00:37 < fake> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hde 00:37 < fake> ... 00:37 < fake> oops. 00:38 < esden> fake: good so I remembered that correctly 00:38 < esden> good 00:39 < daja77> re 00:39 < mnemoc> fake: that would be a *great* mini-howto :) 00:39 < esden> huhu daja77 *hug* 00:40 < Lorini> hi daja 00:40 < rxr> ah - yes I really should thow this into wine ;-) 00:40 < rxr> thanks 00:41 < daja77> huhu Lorini 00:41 * -> esden is being ignored by daja77 ;-( 00:41 < Lorini> *g* 00:41 < daja77> hi esden!!! *rehug* 00:41 < esden> yes I knw he preferes women 00:42 < daja77> indeed i was blind 00:42 < daja77> esden: but no women is like you ... 00:42 < Lorini> lol 00:42 < esden> yes I know I am so small that I get easily overseen 00:42 < fake> mnemoc: it's in the wine-app-db 00:42 < Freak> AND what about meeeee??? 00:42 < esden> daja77: thank you for that compliment ;) 00:43 < fake> Freak: shut up 00:43 < Freak> fake you stink 00:43 < fake> Freak: yep. 00:43 < esden> ohh I see two that really love eachother ;) 00:43 * fake loves you all 00:43 < daja77> hi Freak! 00:43 < esden> fake: wou mutate to michel jackson o_O 00:44 < esden> ? 00:44 < daja77> no to erich mielke ... 00:44 < Freak> sure I love fake, I'm just not so sure about fake 00:44 < Lorini> hi Freak.. 00:44 < fake> you are all talking complete nonsense. 00:44 < fake> (me included) 00:44 < esden> fake: so you do 00:44 < daja77> yes and= 00:44 < daja77> ? 00:44 < esden> yes ... 00:45 < daja77> <- born nonsense talker 00:45 < fake> i just wanted to clarify that 00:45 < fake> <- bourne nonsense coder 00:45 < daja77> btw how is speech output plugin doin? 00:46 < esden> <- born nonsense liver 00:46 < fake> daja77: no idea 00:46 < daja77> i knew esden would top us 00:46 < esden> *G* 00:47 < Freak> omigod they're about to release the guy they took into custody for killing ana lindh 00:48 < fake> so what? 00:48 < Freak> fake: don't you be so negative 00:49 < Freak> or at least don't bother _me_ 00:49 < fake> Freak: do they care about each and every shot iraqi ? 00:49 < Freak> uhm no 00:49 < Freak> do you? 00:49 < Lorini> fake is right.. 00:49 < Freak> fake is an idealist. 00:49 < fake> Freak: i find it more disturbing than one politically motivated 'classic' murder 00:51 < fake> damn, the guy who killed her didn't tell all people he did it for peace and global wealth! 00:51 * fake shuts up 00:51 < Freak> I don't trust selfappointed idealists. 00:51 < fake> ? 00:52 < Freak> selbsternannt 00:52 < fake> don't you have ideals? 00:52 < Freak> yes I do 00:52 < fake> so you don't trust yourself? 00:53 < Freak> but I'm not going to despair over $number people being killed each day. 00:53 < esden> humm humm ... /me feels now once more like in #politics ... 00:53 < Freak> yes that's #rocklinux :) 00:54 < esden> sigh 00:54 < Freak> its more like #social_ethics sometimes :) 00:54 < fake> yeah, i got it... 00:55 < esden> humm ... the rlml is pretty active ... it will be a hard time to read that all when I have a better connection ... 00:56 < daja77> hehe have fun 00:56 < esden> sigh 00:56 * daja77 gives esden a cookie 00:56 < Lorini> ey. and what about me? 00:57 < daja77> ehm 00:57 * daja77 gives another cookie to Lorini and runs 00:57 < Lorini> why are you running? ... ok now i know why *g* 00:58 < daja77> !decide coffee sleep 00:59 < Lorini> coffee 00:59 < daja77> 00:59 < JMoTux> The obvious choice is: coffee 00:59 < daja77> hmn 00:59 < Lorini> i am not tired yet, so go and get some coffee :) 01:00 < Freak> haha :) 01:00 < daja77> hehe and you go to work for me, ok? 01:00 < Lorini> of course 01:00 < daja77> that would be interesting to watch ... 01:00 < Lorini> *g* 01:00 < esden> humm ... some people are really too stupid for quoting ;-) 01:01 < daja77> esden: *cough* you are still wondering about that 01:01 < daja77> go and read usenet and get wise :) 01:01 < mnemoc> daja77: hi! 01:01 < Freak> how and where should I apply for an administration-related where no knowledge is needed? :) 01:02 < daja77> Freak: microsoft, unterschleißheim 01:02 < Freak> stfu! =) 01:02 < daja77> hi mnemoc :) 01:02 < daja77> hm? 01:03 < daja77> at least you could be destructive there 01:04 < Freak> yea well but google knows me so I'd need a secret identity 01:05 < fake> if you are bored: https://x-dis.rapidnetworks.de/ 01:06 < fake> it's fun just typing anything in watch pictures of the real world out there 01:06 < fake> and* 01:07 < esden> grr another 30 mails to read 01:07 < esden> but i have read enough for today 01:07 < daja77> esden: read faster :P 01:07 < esden> good night everyone 01:07 < daja77> n8 esden 01:07 * -> esden smacks daja77 01:07 < Lorini> night 01:07 < fake> esden: stop 01:07 < esden> fake: ? 01:07 < fake> esden: did you know apollo ist listed as open relay? 01:07 < Freak> fake: it wants cookies. I don't want cookies. 01:07 < esden> oups 01:08 < fake> Freak: that link was for everyone but for you. 01:08 < esden> fake: can you please change that? 01:08 < daja77> esden: you bastard! 01:08 < Freak> fake: you make me really sad. 01:08 < fake> in the header, look for Content-Target: -Freak 01:08 < fake> esden: no, i'm not gonna touch exim 01:08 < esden> i do not want to do that over that fscking connection ... 01:08 < fake> esden: you broke it, you fix it *g* 01:09 < esden> I will fix it but first next week 01:09 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.173.239.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:09 < fake> esden: n/p 01:09 < esden> kk 01:09 < fake> it's open since long 01:09 < esden> ok I have to go to bed 01:09 < fake> so one or two weeks won't hurt 01:09 < fake> sleep well, good boy. 01:09 < fake> *patpat* 01:09 < esden> kk 01:09 < esden> *G* rrrrrrr 01:09 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.221.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:09 * -> esden -> off 01:10 * daja77 kicks esden to bed 01:10 < daja77> :) 01:11 < Freak> fake: https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/fuerdich.jpg 01:11 < fake> ah, today i have a browser open. 01:12 < fake> o_O ### 01:12 < Freak> hehehehe 01:12 < fake> meine zehennaegel kringeln sich grade auf! gaaa! 01:12 < daja77> fscking slow 01:12 < Freak> suck my d...slmodem, daja. 01:13 < Freak> ;) 01:15 < daja77> *grmpf* rtai ml is misused by lusers ... 01:16 < Freak> fake: my pleasure ;) 01:16 < fake> Freak: you are bizarre. 01:16 * Freak needs chocolate ice cream. brb. anyone want some? 01:16 < Freak> fake: and you're fake. 01:16 < daja77> me! 01:16 * fake doesn't want anything from Freak 01:16 < fake> daja77: no! it's poisoned! 01:17 * Freak gives to everyone. 01:17 < Freak> who likes. 01:17 < daja77> yummie 01:17 < Freak> so I'll brb. 01:18 < daja77> fake: too late, i'm dying ... :) 01:18 < fake> lucky daja 01:18 < daja77> hehe 01:19 < daja77> <- hates the fact of not bein tired 01:20 < Freak> daja77: what color? 01:20 < Freak> HAHA 01:20 < Freak> but nevermind 01:20 < daja77> ha! 01:20 < Freak> hey it's the good lidl-brand 01:20 < Freak> yummie 01:20 < Freak> with little chocolate pieces in it yano 01:21 < daja77> yano? 01:21 < fake> daja77: i'd know how to help... a friend with weed... ;) 01:21 < Freak> ya know 01:21 < Freak> yano 01:21 < daja77> ic 01:21 < daja77> fake: rofl 01:21 < Freak> weed makes you tired? 01:21 < Freak> maybe I should start smoking.. 01:22 < Freak> or baking cookies.. 01:22 < fake> *sabber* 01:22 < fake> die waffeln aufm chaoscamp... *schmwaerm* 01:22 < daja77> fake: junkie! 01:22 < Freak> weed woffles?? 01:22 < daja77> :) 01:22 < Freak> waffles 01:22 < fake> Freak: yes, you could buy them at the ganz normalen waffelstand 01:23 < Freak> haha 01:23 < Freak> ye olde wafflestand 01:23 < fake> and they actually even tasted great! 01:23 < fake> (not that i ate any of them, of course, as they are illegal.) 01:23 < daja77> s/any/many 01:23 < Freak> of course. 01:25 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.8.37.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:26 * fake REM - It's the end of the world as we know it 01:26 < daja77> hey have that too 01:26 < Lorini> REM? 01:26 < daja77> yes that song 01:26 < Freak> gimme 01:26 < fake> sec... 01:27 < daja77> .oO gimme ten seconds to think about it for a minute ... 01:27 < Freak> daja77 :) 01:28 < mnemoc> with 10 seconds u can download it from edonkey :) 01:28 * fake uploading 01:31 < daja77> fake: the rocklinux video? 01:31 < rxr> hm - strange the sis900 driver calims to use IRQ 11 - but it is not listed in /proc/interrupts ... 01:32 < fake> who wanted music? 01:32 * Freak 01:34 * Freak downloading 01:38 < mnemoc> damn edonkey 16h to download a single mp3???? 01:38 * daja77 having trouble with defective files from gnutella 01:38 < fake> mnemoc: what do you need? 01:39 < mnemoc> "it's the end of the world" ;) 01:41 < Freak> heh 01:43 < daja77> ah now i know which guy esden meant when talking about borken quoting 01:44 < Freak> not me!!!! :) 01:44 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.221.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:44 < daja77> no not you 01:46 < Freak> but I'll try to be the one you talk about next time. 01:46 < Freak> *next time you complain about someone. 01:46 * Freak afk;brb 01:46 < daja77> ok np 01:47 < fake> who is the most freaky person in this channel? 01:47 * daja77 complaining about Freak while he is away 01:47 < Lorini> daja 01:47 < daja77> hmm hard to say ... wait ... it is Freak!!! 01:47 < daja77> Lorini: ? 01:48 < Lorini> daja77: i was answering fake 01:48 < Lorini> *run* 01:48 * daja77 kicks Lorini 01:48 * daja77 faster :P 01:49 < fake> daja77 is damn fast... 01:49 < Lorini> hehe 01:49 < fake> but he cheats. 01:49 < daja77> but i do not fake :P 01:53 < Freak> hey Lorini, are you questioning my freakyness?!!!!11 01:53 < rxr> n8 * 01:53 < Freak> nn rxr 01:53 < daja77> n8 rxr 01:54 * Freak is tired. 01:54 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9530656.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:55 < Freak> I'm going to bed. 01:55 < daja77> n8 Freak 01:55 < Freak> your freakyness is leaving you. 01:55 < fake> n8 freak 01:55 < Freak> nitenite daja77, fake, Lorini, esden, * 01:56 < Lorini> night 02:17 * daja77 off to bed 02:20 < mnemoc> cu daja77 02:20 < fake> night speedy gonzales! 02:25 * fake Thomas D - Wish 02:25 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530656.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:50 < mnemoc> G* ppl can't do anything right? 02:50 < mnemoc> A wildcard entry in a zone affects DNS responses for that zone. 02:50 < mnemoc> For existing applications that conform to the Internet standards 02:50 < mnemoc> as the world knows them, application developers should consider 02:50 < mnemoc> taking a more "Microsoft" approach and let us redefine the standard, 02:50 < mnemoc> thus making it your own fault for not anticipating the unplanned 02:50 < mnemoc> oops 02:50 < mnemoc> me neither 02:50 < mnemoc> VERSIONS AFFECTED : <openssh-3.7.1_p2 02:57 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.136.177.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:15 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.8.37.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:20 * fake off 03:20 < fake> bye 03:20 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D464.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] The name's X. BitchX.") 03:29 -!- mistik1_ is now known as mistik1 05:30 -!- Mike1 [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 05:30 < Mike1> moin 06:41 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.141.140.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:43 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.136.177.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:00 < blindcoder> moin 07:02 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:04 < Mike1> hi blindy 07:08 < blindcoder> moin mikey 07:08 < blindcoder> want to kill some ProFTPd-Devs with me? 07:11 < Mike1> sounds like a lot of fun.. count me in 07:11 < Mike1> what did they do to you ? 07:11 < blindcoder> they had a remote-root-exploit in their code 07:11 < Mike1> grrr 07:11 < blindcoder> patched all versions 1.2.7 - 1.2.9rc2 07:11 < Mike1> which version?> 07:11 < Mike1> mm.. 07:12 < blindcoder> uploaded the new tar.gz to their servers and gave them new PGP-Signatures 07:13 < blindcoder> so every proftpd-1.2.[789]* now has new checksums and all... 07:18 < Mike1> you found the bug? 07:18 < blindcoder> no, just read the article at symlink 07:18 < Mike1> okis 07:28 * blindcoder --> breakfast 07:39 * blindcoder back 07:42 < Mike1> wb blindy 07:55 < blindcoder> thx 07:55 < Mike1> what are you doing? 07:56 < Mike1> btw only 6 more days left to leave hell.. how do you feel? 08:06 < blindcoder> I feel like going around with a shotgun 08:06 < blindcoder> killing every "I-am-an-admin"-human that I happen to see 08:06 < Mike1> thank god i am on ur side :) 08:08 < blindcoder> Well, our "IT-Security"-people want us to deactivate the high-priority-security-vulnerability HTTP TRACE on our Apache Intranet-Webservers 08:09 < blindcoder> now, I just found out that some of the more active Intranet-Apaches run on a 4.5 year-old APache! 08:09 < blindcoder> Apache V1.2b10 08:09 < blindcoder> I don't even want to check if that's a beta-version or not... 08:09 < Mike1> hehehe 08:10 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td90918c8.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:18 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.55.162.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:20 -!- Mike1 [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 08:22 < netrunner> moin 08:24 < blindcoder> moin moin 08:25 < netrunner> moinmoinmoin :) 08:37 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.141.140.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:38 < jsaw_> re 08:38 < jsaw_> hi all 08:38 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 08:51 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EF0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:51 < fake> moin 08:52 < blindcoder> moin moin 09:00 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.55.162.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:00 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.21.17.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:32 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders] 09:45 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.49.190.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:04 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.21.17.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:05 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:28 < fake> hi clifford ! 10:29 < [anders]> moin zusammen 10:29 < clifford> moin. 10:30 * [anders] just started compiling a rather large project with the -Wbad-function-cast flag switched on.. *sigh* 10:30 < [anders]> only 83 thousand new warnings... ahem... 10:32 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td90918c8.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:06 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 11:07 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-127.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:08 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-082-082-080-241.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:32 < Lorini> moin everybody 11:37 < fake> morgen Lorini 11:42 < Lorini> hi fake 11:43 < rxr> ddddddre 11:49 < Freak> sttttttuttttttter? 12:00 < blindcoder> *burps* hi hi and rehi 12:00 < Lorini> hi blindcoder 12:02 < blindcoder> hi there :) 12:49 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.163.184.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:55 -!- Aard_ [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:55 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:01 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.49.190.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:50 -!- bwolf_ [~bwolf@p508B2FA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 < bwolf_> hi folk 14:01 < rxr> hi bwolf_ 14:08 < daja77> re 14:10 < bwolf_> hi daja 14:10 < Lorini> hi daja :) 14:10 < daja77> hey bwolf_ long time no see :) 14:14 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7A18D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:15 < bwolf_> hi Lorini 14:15 < Lorini> hi bwolf_ 14:15 -!- bwolf_ is now known as wolf 14:23 < martin_> hi all 14:23 < daja77> rxr: you here? 14:24 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:25 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.163.184.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:51 < rxr> hi daja77 14:52 < daja77> oh hi rxr 14:52 * daja77 happy 14:52 < rxr> ;-) 14:52 < daja77> you have a minute for me? 14:53 < rxr> sure 15:00 < fake> re 15:01 < martin_> ohh, hi rxr. I'm sorry for missing at the demonstration. 15:01 < rolla> re 15:01 < rxr> martin_: *klatsch* 15:01 < martin_> rxr: *aua* 15:02 < martin_> rxr: I have forget the date. (Hmm, is date the right word? :-) 15:03 < rxr> yes - date day whatever - AND YOU WERE MISSING! 15:03 < jvc> rxr: hi 15:03 < rxr> https://gsmp.rocklinux-consulting.de/rene/photos/ffii-demo-2003/gallery.html 15:04 < daja77> someone said they decided with a 2/3 majority for software patents :( 15:04 < martin_> rxr: I have look to the gallery. how many people were there? 15:04 < rolla> rxr there are some typos on that page 15:06 < rxr> :-( 15:06 < rolla> just thought you would want to know 15:07 < rolla> abaut 15:07 < rxr> yes sure 15:08 < rolla> I am gald to see some eurpoeans are standing up against the insanity 15:09 * martin_ will be back in some minutes ... 15:09 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7A18D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("bye bye") 15:09 < rxr> and you were not standing up against this insanity ??? 15:10 < rolla> ? 15:10 < [anders]> https://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_822534.html <- hehehehehe 15:10 < rxr> "you are glad to see some europeans are standing up" <- you included or not? 15:11 < rolla> well I am american after all 15:11 < rolla> we started the mess 15:12 < rxr> ah - I missed that you are in US ;-) 15:12 < rolla> I thought everyone here knew that 15:12 < rolla> :) 15:12 < rxr> nope - at lest I missed this 15:12 < rxr> nice to see that - I hope you push ROCK Linux over there? 15:12 < rolla> I do 15:13 -!- wolf [~bwolf@p508B2FA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:13 < daja77> https://brevets-logiciels.info/wiki/wakka.php?wiki=VoteDu24Septembre2003 15:13 < rolla> you can thank or blame th_ for me being here 15:13 < daja77> rolla: explain 15:14 < rolla> he found me in #vim and kept talking about rocklinux ;) 15:14 < daja77> hehe :) 15:16 < daja77> 361 voix POUR / 187 CONTRE *puke* 15:19 * daja77 seeking new job as ms application programmer , dammit 15:19 < rolla> ? 15:20 < rolla> EU Parliament Approves Software Patents 15:20 < rolla> welcome to hell 15:20 < daja77> me just bein sarcastic, don't worry 15:20 < daja77> thank you very much 15:22 < [anders]> rolla: u got an url for that? 15:23 < [anders]> I don't speak french so the url daja77 posted is a bit useless for me. 15:23 < rolla> yeah that is the only link I have :( 15:23 < rolla> but slashdot also has a article about it 15:24 < rolla> https://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/24/1253227&mode=thread&tid=155&tid=185&tid=99 15:24 < daja77> [anders]: well in short: 361 votes pro / 187 votes contra 15:24 < rolla> I think near the top is a translation from french 15:25 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-10-1-dialup-199.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-10-1-dialup-199.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:30 < jsaw> I guess this is also interesting: "Massive victory for Open Source campaign", https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=79769&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=155&mode=thread&cid=7042805 15:32 < daja77> oh nice a two line story 15:33 < jsaw> you don't see the full thread? 15:34 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7A18D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:34 < daja77> yepp, strange i was appointed to rate the comments 15:34 < martin_> re 15:37 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:37 < Lorini> re 15:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F5A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 15:38 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 16:04 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091a29.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:05 -!- mnemoc_ [~chatzilla@200.75.4.109] has joined #rocklinux 16:06 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 16:07 -!- mnemoc [~chatzilla@200.75.4.109] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:08 < daja77> hehe timeout time 16:08 < blindcoder> timeout? 16:09 < rolla> ? 16:09 < daja77> hmm maybe i should have said disconnect time 16:09 < blindcoder> hm 16:09 -!- [n00b]Wib [wibra@D577C5AD.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #rocklinux 16:09 < [n00b]Wib> hi 16:10 < Lorini> its hot in here.. 16:10 < daja77> Lorini: huh??! 16:10 < [n00b]Wib> i finally got those ls-colors at work :) 16:10 -!- mnemoc [~chatzilla@200.75.4.109] has joined #rocklinux 16:10 < blindcoder> is it the weather? or is it you? 16:10 < Lorini> lol 16:10 < Lorini> not me :) 16:12 < daja77> not? damn 16:13 < Lorini> oh, maybe.. lets talk about it :) 16:13 < [n00b]Wib> when i press ctrl-d at startup, it reboots. anyone? 16:14 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: what's the problem with that? 16:14 < [n00b]Wib> it says "type admin pass for maintenance or ctrl-d for normal startup" 16:14 < [n00b]Wib> of course, there are no other users then root 16:15 < daja77> guess some of your filesystems are corrupted 16:15 < daja77> type in root passwd and fix them 16:15 < [n00b]Wib> guess too :) 16:15 < daja77> after that press ctrl-d 16:15 < [n00b]Wib> also, when i give root passwd im not *really* root 16:16 < [n00b]Wib> when i do "login" and type root, i *do* get those ls-colors i was searching for 16:16 < daja77> erh you are but in a maintainance shell 16:16 < [n00b]Wib> ah 16:16 < [n00b]Wib> i c 16:16 < [n00b]Wib> didn't see the difference 16:16 < daja77> no this is only for fixing the filesystems 16:17 < [n00b]Wib> i get this error at startup: 16:17 < [n00b]Wib> "filesystem error=0 failed (returncode 8) 16:17 < [n00b]Wib> "please repair the broken disks manually" 16:18 < daja77> yes and for doin this you get that shell for nothing else 16:18 < [n00b]Wib> Q: how to repair it :) 16:19 < daja77> what filesystem? 16:19 < [n00b]Wib> A: bother people on rocklinux 16:19 < [n00b]Wib> how do i know which filesystem? 16:19 < daja77> A: read the manuals for filesystems :) 16:19 < [n00b]Wib> aargh 16:20 < daja77> it is that which you have chosen on install 16:20 < [n00b]Wib> well, it was whole mess, the install 16:20 < [n00b]Wib> i had to manually change host1 to host0 16:20 < daja77> then do it again 16:20 < daja77> O_o 16:20 < [n00b]Wib> then i had to set it to rw instead of ro 16:21 < [n00b]Wib> but i can write files and everything now 16:21 < [n00b]Wib> perhaps my swap file is readonly (not handy :) ) 16:22 < daja77> i read some of your horror stories just don't know what the hell went wrong with install ... 16:22 < [n00b]Wib> hehehe :) 16:23 < [n00b]Wib> in the meanwhile, is there a new iso online yet? 16:23 < [n00b]Wib> with the new and improved scsi-kernel :) 16:23 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091a29.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:23 < daja77> which iso you used? 16:23 < [n00b]Wib> rev 1136 i think 16:23 < [n00b]Wib> ill check 16:24 < daja77> rc1?! 16:24 < [n00b]Wib> drock-2.0.0-rc1-rev1165-x86-pentium-mmx-cd1.iso 16:24 < [n00b]Wib> yes, rc1 16:24 < [n00b]Wib> so rev 1165 16:24 < daja77> no newer isos out there afaik 16:25 < [n00b]Wib> damn, i was hoping of a final, or at least rc4 ;) 16:25 < daja77> rc2 will be out soon, this week i hope 16:25 < [n00b]Wib> woohoow 16:25 < [n00b]Wib> perhaps i'll install from zero 16:26 < [n00b]Wib> (not that i'm that much from zero now) 16:26 < daja77> i would suggest sth like that :) 16:26 < [n00b]Wib> this week, that's only 4 more days 16:26 < [n00b]Wib> okay, in the meanwhile ill optimise my ls-colors :D 16:26 -!- wolf [~bwolf@p508B39D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: cfdisk will tell which fs is on the partition 16:27 < daja77> so you could check and fix them 16:27 < daja77> maybe it boots up normal then 16:27 < [n00b]Wib> seems normaal 16:28 < [n00b]Wib> 2 discs, both primary, one is bootable 16:28 < [n00b]Wib> 1 linux ext3 and one linux swap 16:28 < daja77> so run a e2fsck -f $part 16:29 < daja77> *yes* https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-24.09.03-000/ 16:30 < [n00b]Wib> that e2fsck just gives me some basic commandline parameters i can use 16:31 < daja77> well $part must be the name of the partition 16:31 < [n00b]Wib> that link is german, but i spose there won't be a software patent law then 16:31 < daja77> yes the most critical parts dropped out 16:31 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091f06.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:33 < fake> daja77: phew. 16:33 < fake> Das richte sich vor allem an die Open-Source-Szene, da dieser Bereich nun in seiner Gesamtheit "nicht mehr behindert wird". 16:33 < fake> ... 16:33 < daja77> :) 16:35 < [n00b]Wib> it seems something is wrong with my swapfile 16:35 < [n00b]Wib> "couldn't find ext2 superblock" 16:35 < daja77> swapfile?! 16:35 < [n00b]Wib> swappartition 16:35 < fake> o_O 16:35 < daja77> argl you don't need to repair the swap partition 16:35 < [n00b]Wib> windows user, remember :) 16:36 < daja77> only the others 16:36 < [n00b]Wib> only have one other, that checks out ok 16:38 < [n00b]Wib> any other ideas? 16:38 * blindcoder wonders what happens when an ErrorDocument 404 /404.htm doesn't exist... 16:40 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: just fix this partition and do ctrl-d afterwards 16:40 < daja77> we'll see if it works then 16:40 < [n00b]Wib> rebooting 16:41 < [n00b]Wib> it did say something about recovering from journal or something 16:41 < daja77> yepp 16:42 < [n00b]Wib> => /dev/scsi/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 is mounted. e2fsck: cannot continue, aborting. 16:43 < [n00b]Wib> followed by that returncode 8 16:43 < daja77> *sigh* what did you really do 16:43 < [n00b]Wib> i typed in 16:43 < [n00b]Wib> e2fsck -f /dev/discs/disc0/part0 16:44 < [n00b]Wib> then typed "reboot" 16:44 < daja77> omg why 16:44 < daja77> *hmpf* 16:44 < [n00b]Wib> ... that's how i reboot 16:45 < daja77> well you rebooted with no repair done at all 16:45 < [n00b]Wib> euhm 16:45 < [n00b]Wib> how do i repair *feels stupid* 16:46 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm... the command seems correct to me, too... 16:47 < daja77> blindcoder: not in maintainance shell 16:47 < [n00b]Wib> logged in as root 16:47 < fake> ah, it was mounted... 16:47 < [n00b]Wib> yes, mounted 16:47 < daja77> umount it 16:48 < blindcoder> well... / has the stupid habit of being mounted and being unable to umount it... at this point I'd throw in my ROCK DVD and boot from that 16:48 < [n00b]Wib> that rock cd has no support for my scsidisk... ohwell, i can always modprobe i spose 16:49 < blindcoder> hmm 16:49 < daja77> ok please slow 16:49 < [n00b]Wib> i did 16:49 < [n00b]Wib> "umount /" 16:49 < fake> ... 16:50 < daja77> it worked? 16:50 < [n00b]Wib> it worked 16:50 * blindcoder putting on his flame-, stone- and general-pain-proof armor and prepares to ask a question: 16:50 < fake> . . . 16:50 < [n00b]Wib> no errors given 16:50 < daja77> good then redo the fsck 16:50 < [n00b]Wib> k 16:51 < blindcoder> "Does anyone know a good Windows-program to access a Firewire-Video-Camera?" 16:51 < [n00b]Wib> i know a guy who knows 16:51 < [n00b]Wib> hang on 16:51 < blindcoder> ehm... 16:51 < blindcoder> good and free :( 16:51 < blindcoder> :) 16:52 < [n00b]Wib> (t) 16:52 < blindcoder> (t)? 16:52 < [n00b]Wib> msn code for *on the phone* 16:52 * blindcoder cries 16:53 < [n00b]Wib> he's not picking up 16:53 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 16:53 < blindcoder> well, thanks anyway :) 16:53 < A-Tui> hola 16:54 < daja77> hola A-Tui 16:54 < A-Tui> hi daja77 16:54 < [n00b]Wib> blindcoder: you can contact him on p_i_x_a_r@hotmail.com beware though: he's very passionate about this kinda stuff 16:55 < daja77> hotmail ... 16:55 < [n00b]Wib> but i don't know if he checks that hotmail 16:55 < [n00b]Wib> else icq? 16:55 < blindcoder> hotmail doesn't accept mail from me... 16:55 < daja77> blindcoder: rofl how you managed that? 16:55 < blindcoder> daja77: I'm on dial-up... 16:55 < daja77> ic 16:55 < [n00b]Wib> 82971811 16:56 < [n00b]Wib> but when i see him, i'll ask 16:56 < blindcoder> thanks I'll try 16:56 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: really this is a public chan with logs you should put in private phone numbers here 16:56 < daja77> s/should/should not 16:56 < [n00b]Wib> alright 16:56 < [n00b]Wib> but its an icq number 16:57 < daja77> anyway, queries exists 16:57 < [n00b]Wib> alright, ill keep it in mind 16:57 < blindcoder> daja77: well, doesn't matter... I accidently posted cliffords snail mail address and phone number here because of EUSER 16:57 < blindcoder> luckily, he doesn't seem to know yet :) 16:57 < daja77> blindcoder: clifford's snail mail address is on his hp as well, so what? 16:58 < blindcoder> hmm 16:58 < [n00b]Wib> ok, i did that e2fsck 16:58 < [n00b]Wib> now ctrld-d? 16:58 < daja77> yes 16:59 * blindcoder streamripping some Aniverse Radio 17:01 < [n00b]Wib> :'( same error 17:02 < daja77> hmm any errors found during the check? 17:07 < [n00b]Wib> no 17:08 < [n00b]Wib> i think i get that error at startup just because it is already mounted 17:08 < daja77> i could not make any out of this 17:08 < [n00b]Wib> if i remove the check from booting, i got no prob 17:09 < daja77> O_o 17:09 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950E745.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 < [n00b]Wib> maybe rxr can help when he's back 17:57 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD95069B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:59 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EF0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for Windows CE today!") 18:10 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-115.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:13 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506982.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:20 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950E745.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:36 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802223.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:52 -!- bwolf_ [~bwolf@p508B162F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:54 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802335.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:57 -!- wolf [~bwolf@p508B39D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:12 < daja77> re 19:15 * A-Tui is away: Pelos largos, caras enfermas... 19:15 < daja77> hmm ... 19:37 -!- bwolf_ [~bwolf@p508B162F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:42 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:04 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:49:22) 20:07 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530656.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:15 < jsaw_> /me disappears in the wonderland of overheated nerve-cells 20:15 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD95069B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (""struck down by a flu"") 20:17 < daja77> O_o 20:27 < daja77> .oO svn 0.30 is on the way 20:35 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091f06.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:48 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:52 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:58 < netrunne1> daja77: yipee :) 20:58 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 20:58 * netrunner is back having a bad aching throat 21:23 < daja77> ? 21:44 -!- RaphaelL [~raphael@213.162.66.71] has joined #rocklinux 21:47 -!- RaphaelL [~raphael@213.162.66.71] has quit (Client Quit) 22:02 < martin_> gn8 22:06 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7A18D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("bye bye") 22:19 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EF0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:19 < fake> re 22:23 * fake imaging server... 22:30 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-115.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:54 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026134.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:00 < rxr> 5re 23:00 < daja77> wb rxr 23:00 < daja77> thx for demonstration and congratz you have won 23:07 < rxr> won - no we won only some points 23:07 < rxr> but lost a big deal 23:09 < daja77> ? 23:09 < rxr> I only heared they signed the damn paper today ... 23:10 < rxr> daja77: did I missed s.th. 23:10 < daja77> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-24.09.03-000/ 23:13 < rxr> well this article does not sound that bad 23:14 < daja77> ack :) 23:23 * fake bored 23:24 < fake> any oracle knowledge in here? 23:24 < Lorini> me 23:24 < daja77> rofl 23:24 < Lorini> pf 23:24 < fake> how can i do a plain-text export of structure and / or data? 23:25 < fake> the damn exp fscks up the files with binary stuff... 23:25 < daja77> ask Lorini ... 23:25 < Lorini> *g* 23:28 < fake> Oracle-to-MySQL 23:28 < fake> order single product $39.85 23:28 < fake> :P 23:28 < fake> von wegen 23:28 < daja77> rotflmao 23:29 < snyke> rofl 23:29 < snyke> poseidon sucks 23:29 < snyke> just executing make: load average: 33.93, 19.43, 8.34 23:29 < snyke> (make to create aliases and access dbs) 23:30 < daja77> fake: who is so stupid to convert from horrible to mysql? 23:30 < fake> *PRUST* 23:30 < fake> https://www-level3.experts-exchange.com/Databases/Q_20741421.html 23:30 < fake> daja77: a customer. 23:31 < daja77> *click* 23:33 < daja77> hehe what a dumbass 23:33 < Lorini> dumbass 23:33 < daja77> ? 23:34 * fake dumbass 23:34 < daja77> hey this self denying is boring 23:34 < rxr> why is my TODO growing so quickly .... 23:34 < rxr> maybe I shoudl do a rm -f TODO ? 23:35 < daja77> erh no! 23:35 < rxr> or forget one > in the next echo "item" >> TODO execution ? 23:36 < daja77> rxr: is this a call for help? 23:39 < fake> so ein scheiss... 23:40 < daja77> fake: just to be sure, your customer wants to switch from oracle to mysql? 23:40 < fake> yes. 23:40 < daja77> you made my day 23:41 < fake> daja77: the decision is right. 23:41 < daja77> ???! 23:41 < fake> some other company coded an app that needs a database 23:41 < daja77> mysql is no database 23:41 < daja77> it is a joke 23:41 < fake> and because that company had startuphypeionitis, they tought they get a million customers per year. 23:42 < fake> so they startetd implementing a bunch of features, backed by oracle. 23:42 < fake> most of the features never got finished. 23:42 < fake> the company is gone, what's left is a half-way-working app. 23:42 < fake> which uses about 5% of what the database was intended to serve. 23:43 < daja77> use postgres ... 23:43 < fake> daja77: my word. 23:43 < daja77> ok good that we understand each other in this point 23:43 < fake> daja77: but we're gonna try mysql for now. 23:43 < daja77> urgs 23:43 < fake> the application is easily adopted. 23:44 < fake> so if mysql starts to suck, we switch to postgres. 23:44 < daja77> yeah but it is still mysql 23:44 < daja77> hmm 23:44 < fake> hell, they didn't even use triggers in their layout... 23:44 < fake> a few foreign keys, that's all 23:44 < daja77> i don't trust mysql that's all 23:45 < daja77> + if the app is already running on postgres it is easier to adopt new features 23:45 < daja77> but it is not my business, so ... 23:46 < fake> this app will never see any more features. 23:46 < daja77> hehe sounds good :) 23:48 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 23:49 * fake going for a cigarette 23:49 < fake> that ssh dd gzip takes ages... 23:50 < daja77> cu fake 23:50 < Lorini> mh cigarette 23:51 < daja77> O_o you smoke? 23:51 < Lorini> not really 23:51 < Lorini> i did 23:51 < Lorini> and sometimes i still do ;) 23:52 < daja77> hehe like clifford who calls himself an event smoker 23:52 < Lorini> *g* 23:53 < fake> hm 23:53 < fake> too lazy do go downwarfs 23:53 < fake> wards... 23:53 < fake> *openingwindow* --- Log closed Thu Sep 25 00:00:27 2003