--- Log opened Wed Sep 24 00:00:09 2003
00:03 < __mnemoc> re all :)
00:04 < esden> hi __mnemoc 
00:05 < __mnemoc> hi esden, hi lorini
00:05 < rxr> hi esden 
00:05 < __mnemoc> hi rex
00:05 < esden> well well a ups with a halflife of 245 years or so ... very nice
00:06 < esden> hi rxr 
00:06 < rxr> this crap damn windows - after it messed up itself it also messed up the sis900 network chip and it doesn't work anymore in linux
00:06 < rxr> I get crazy
00:06 < esden> have you tryed to update the firmware ?
00:06 < __mnemoc> how?
00:07 < rxr> nope
00:07 * -> esden loves modem connections ... $%&%^*#@
00:07 < rxr> I just booted windows XP (the first time for eight months) and called M$ for the reg number
00:07 < rxr> I rebooted since Verena wanted to use "her" laptop - and wanted to reboot into crap-os
00:08 < rxr> it freezes on boot now ...
00:08 < esden> sik
00:08 < rxr> only the safe-mode without network is functional
00:08 < esden> my condolences for the dead nic
00:08 < rxr> and yes I have a valid M$ license for this XP - a academic one form the Uni - so it shoul't be a self-destruction code from M$ ...
00:10 < rxr> and all this because I wanted to track why the f*cled IE does not render a commercial page of mine correctly - the IE for Mac (which I of course have a license for due to my iBook) does render it perfectly - but the Mac IE is magnitudes better then the Win IE anyway (the mac-team at M$ must have rewritten that beast 100% ...)
00:11 < esden> rxr the mac and win ie groups are very very big enemies you know?
00:14 < rxr> heared s.th. like that - but I do not care.
00:15 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ("Ich bin doch der Liebling der G÷tter..")
00:15 < rxr> we need to convince more dau users to use ROCK Linux (or another one) - so I do not need to boot a damned Windows just to verify some .html file does render correctly in this buggy▓ browser
00:17 < esden> ACK
00:17 < __mnemoc> rxr: you can use rdesktop and ask for a account somewhere
00:18 < rxr> __mnemoc: you seem to volunteer?
00:19 < __mnemoc> by int'l bw is pathetic :-\
00:19 < __mnemoc> s/by/my/
00:20 < __mnemoc> do u really want it?
00:22 < rxr> ;-) If this damn XP does not want to coem back, maybe ...
00:23 < esden> rxr: use vmware/wine to rum ie for test purposes ...
00:23 < __mnemoc> rxr: no problem
00:23 < esden> s/rum/run/
00:23 < __mnemoc> esden: does it run on wine?
00:23 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux
00:23 < esden> yes it does and that faster,better(more stable) then on native win
00:24 < __mnemoc> i'll have to try it
00:24 < esden> but it is pretty much work to get it running afaik
00:25 < rxr> this damn windows#
00:25 < esden> iirc fake had it running on wine some time ago
00:25 < rxr> after power-unplug the laptop the nic shows up in linux again (no EEPROM ERROR read FFFF ...)
00:25 < rxr> but doing ifconfig eth0 ... freezes the linux box now, too
00:25 < rxr> this get's boring ...
00:31 < __mnemoc> power-unplug it again :)
00:31 -!- __mnemoc is now known as mnemoc
00:33 < rxr> yes already did this ...
00:33 < rxr> a short power-off does not help anyway - I tried this first - only some multi minute un-plug helped ...
00:34 < fake> re
00:34 < esden> hi fake 
00:35 < esden> fake: scrollback?
00:35 * fake reading
00:35 < mnemoc> try pci-unpluging the nic
00:35 < mnemoc> mmm... laptop
00:35 < mnemoc> sorry =(
00:36 < fake> ie under wine, yes
00:36 < fake> works, but a damn lot of work for a damn ugly browser
00:37 < fake> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hde
00:37 < fake> ... 
00:37 < fake> oops.
00:38 < esden> fake: good so I remembered that correctly
00:38 < esden> good
00:39 < daja77> re
00:39 < mnemoc> fake: that would be a *great* mini-howto :)
00:39 < esden> huhu daja77 *hug*
00:40 < Lorini> hi daja
00:40 < rxr> ah - yes I really should thow this into wine ;-)
00:40 < rxr> thanks 
00:41 < daja77> huhu Lorini 
00:41 * -> esden is being ignored by daja77 ;-(
00:41 < Lorini> *g*
00:41 < daja77> hi esden!!! *rehug*
00:41 < esden> yes I knw he preferes women
00:42 < daja77> indeed i was blind
00:42 < daja77> esden: but no women is like you ...
00:42 < Lorini> lol
00:42 < esden> yes I know I am so small that I get easily overseen
00:42 < fake> mnemoc: it's in the wine-app-db
00:42 < Freak> AND what about meeeee???
00:42 < esden> daja77: thank you for that compliment ;)
00:43 < fake> Freak: shut up
00:43 < Freak> fake you stink
00:43 < fake> Freak: yep.
00:43 < esden> ohh I see two that really love eachother ;)
00:43 * fake loves you all
00:43 < daja77> hi Freak!
00:43 < esden> fake: wou mutate to michel jackson o_O
00:44 < esden> ?
00:44 < daja77> no to erich mielke ...
00:44 < Freak> sure I love fake, I'm just not so sure about fake
00:44 < Lorini> hi Freak..
00:44 < fake> you are all talking complete nonsense.
00:44 < fake> (me included)
00:44 < esden> fake: so you do
00:44 < daja77> yes and=
00:44 < daja77> ?
00:44 < esden> yes ...
00:45 < daja77> <- born nonsense talker
00:45 < fake> i just wanted to clarify that
00:45 < fake> <- bourne nonsense coder
00:45 < daja77> btw how is speech output plugin doin?
00:46 < esden> <- born nonsense liver
00:46 < fake> daja77: no idea
00:46 < daja77> i knew esden would top us 
00:46 < esden> *G*
00:47 < Freak> omigod they're about to release the guy they took into custody for killing ana lindh
00:48 < fake> so what?
00:48 < Freak> fake: don't you be so negative
00:49 < Freak> or at least don't bother _me_
00:49 < fake> Freak: do they care about each and every shot iraqi ?
00:49 < Freak> uhm no
00:49 < Freak> do you?
00:49 < Lorini> fake is right..
00:49 < Freak> fake is an idealist.
00:49 < fake> Freak: i find it more disturbing than one politically motivated 'classic' murder
00:51 < fake> damn, the guy who killed her didn't tell all people he did it for peace and global wealth!
00:51 * fake shuts up
00:51 < Freak> I don't trust selfappointed idealists.
00:51 < fake> ?
00:52 < Freak> selbsternannt
00:52 < fake> don't you have ideals?
00:52 < Freak> yes I do
00:52 < fake> so you don't trust yourself?
00:53 < Freak> but I'm not going to despair over $number people being killed each day.
00:53 < esden> humm humm ... /me feels now once more like in #politics ...
00:53 < Freak> yes that's #rocklinux :)
00:54 < esden> sigh
00:54 < Freak> its more like #social_ethics sometimes :)
00:54 < fake> yeah, i got it...
00:55 < esden> humm ... the rlml is pretty active ... it will be a hard time to read that all when I have a better connection ...
00:56 < daja77> hehe have fun
00:56 < esden> sigh
00:56 * daja77 gives esden a cookie
00:56 < Lorini> ey. and what about me?
00:57 < daja77> ehm
00:57 * daja77 gives another cookie to Lorini and runs
00:57 < Lorini> why are you running? ... ok now i know why *g*
00:58 < daja77> !decide coffee sleep
00:59 < Lorini> coffee
00:59 < daja77> 00:59 < JMoTux> The obvious choice is: coffee
00:59 < daja77> hmn
00:59 < Lorini> i am not tired yet, so go and get some coffee :)
01:00 < Freak> haha :)
01:00 < daja77> hehe and you go to work for me, ok?
01:00 < Lorini> of course
01:00 < daja77> that would be interesting to watch ...
01:00 < Lorini> *g*
01:00 < esden> humm ... some people are really too stupid for quoting ;-)
01:01 < daja77> esden: *cough* you are still wondering about that
01:01 < daja77> go and read usenet and get wise :)
01:01 < mnemoc> daja77: hi!
01:01 < Freak> how and where should I apply for an administration-related where no knowledge is needed? :)
01:02 < daja77> Freak: microsoft, unterschlei▀heim
01:02 < Freak> stfu! =)
01:02 < daja77> hi mnemoc :)
01:02 < daja77> hm?
01:03 < daja77> at least you could be destructive there
01:04 < Freak> yea well but google knows me so I'd need a secret identity
01:05 < fake> if you are bored: http://x-dis.rapidnetworks.de/
01:06 < fake> it's fun just typing anything in watch pictures of the real world out there
01:06 < fake> and*
01:07 < esden> grr another 30 mails to read
01:07 < esden> but i have read enough for today
01:07 < daja77> esden: read faster :P
01:07 < esden> good night everyone
01:07 < daja77> n8 esden 
01:07 * -> esden smacks daja77 
01:07 < Lorini> night
01:07 < fake> esden: stop
01:07 < esden> fake: ?
01:07 < fake> esden: did you know apollo ist listed as open relay?
01:07 < Freak> fake: it wants cookies. I don't want cookies.
01:07 < esden> oups
01:08 < fake> Freak: that link was for everyone but for you. 
01:08 < esden> fake: can you please change that?
01:08 < daja77> esden: you bastard!
01:08 < Freak> fake: you make me really sad.
01:08 < fake> in the header, look for Content-Target: -Freak
01:08 < fake> esden: no, i'm not gonna touch exim
01:08 < esden> i do not want to do that over that fscking connection ...
01:08 < fake> esden: you broke it, you fix it *g*
01:09 < esden> I will fix it but first next week
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01:09 < fake> esden: n/p
01:09 < esden> kk
01:09 < fake> it's open since long
01:09 < esden> ok I have to go to bed
01:09 < fake> so one or two weeks won't hurt
01:09 < fake> sleep well, good boy.
01:09 < fake> *patpat*
01:09 < esden> kk
01:09 < esden> *G* rrrrrrr
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01:09 * -> esden -> off
01:10 * daja77 kicks esden to bed
01:10 < daja77> :)
01:11 < Freak> fake: http://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/fuerdich.jpg
01:11 < fake> ah, today i have a browser open.
01:12 < fake> o_O ###
01:12 < Freak> hehehehe
01:12 < fake> meine zehennaegel kringeln sich grade auf! gaaa!
01:12 < daja77> fscking slow
01:12 < Freak> suck my d...slmodem, daja.
01:13 < Freak> ;)
01:15 < daja77> *grmpf* rtai ml is misused by lusers ...
01:16 < Freak> fake: my pleasure ;)
01:16 < fake> Freak: you are bizarre. 
01:16 * Freak needs chocolate ice cream. brb. anyone want some?
01:16 < Freak> fake: and you're fake.
01:16 < daja77> me!
01:16 * fake doesn't want anything from Freak
01:16 < fake> daja77: no! it's poisoned!
01:17 * Freak gives to everyone.
01:17 < Freak> who likes.
01:17 < daja77> yummie
01:17 < Freak> so I'll brb.
01:18 < daja77> fake: too late, i'm dying ... :)
01:18 < fake> lucky daja
01:18 < daja77> hehe
01:19 < daja77> <- hates the fact of not bein tired
01:20 < Freak> daja77: what color?
01:20 < Freak> HAHA
01:20 < Freak> but nevermind
01:20 < daja77> ha!
01:20 < Freak> hey it's the good lidl-brand
01:20 < Freak> yummie
01:20 < Freak> with little chocolate pieces in it yano
01:21 < daja77> yano?
01:21 < fake> daja77: i'd know how to help... a friend with weed... ;)
01:21 < Freak> ya know
01:21 < Freak> yano
01:21 < daja77> ic
01:21 < daja77> fake: rofl
01:21 < Freak> weed makes you tired?
01:21 < Freak> maybe I should start smoking..
01:22 < Freak> or baking cookies..
01:22 < fake> *sabber*
01:22 < fake> die waffeln aufm chaoscamp... *schmwaerm*
01:22 < daja77> fake: junkie!
01:22 < Freak> weed woffles??
01:22 < daja77> :)
01:22 < Freak> waffles
01:22 < fake> Freak: yes, you could buy them at the ganz normalen waffelstand
01:23 < Freak> haha
01:23 < Freak> ye olde wafflestand
01:23 < fake> and they actually even tasted great!
01:23 < fake> (not that i ate any of them, of course, as they are illegal.)
01:23 < daja77> s/any/many
01:23 < Freak> of course.
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01:26 * fake REM - It's the end of the world as we know it
01:26 < daja77> hey have that too
01:26 < Lorini> REM?
01:26 < daja77> yes that song
01:26 < Freak> gimme
01:26 < fake> sec...
01:27 < daja77> .oO gimme ten seconds to think about it for a minute ...
01:27 < Freak> daja77 :)
01:28 < mnemoc> with 10 seconds u can download it from edonkey :)
01:28 * fake uploading
01:31 < daja77> fake: the rocklinux video?
01:31 < rxr> hm - strange the sis900 driver calims to use IRQ 11 - but it is not listed in /proc/interrupts ...
01:32 < fake> who wanted music?
01:32 * Freak  
01:34 * Freak downloading
01:38 < mnemoc> damn edonkey 16h to download a single mp3????
01:38 * daja77 having trouble with defective files from gnutella
01:38 < fake> mnemoc: what do you need?
01:39 < mnemoc> "it's the end of the world" ;)
01:41 < Freak> heh
01:43 < daja77> ah now i know which guy esden meant when talking about borken quoting
01:44 < Freak> not me!!!! :)
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01:44 < daja77> no not you
01:46 < Freak> but I'll try to be the one you talk about next time.
01:46 < Freak> *next time you complain about someone.
01:46 * Freak afk;brb
01:46 < daja77> ok np
01:47 < fake> who is the most freaky person in this channel?
01:47 * daja77 complaining about Freak while he is away
01:47 < Lorini> daja
01:47 < daja77> hmm hard to say ... wait ... it is Freak!!!
01:47 < daja77> Lorini: ?
01:48 < Lorini> daja77: i was answering fake
01:48 < Lorini> *run*
01:48 * daja77 kicks Lorini 
01:48 * daja77 faster :P
01:49 < fake> daja77 is damn fast... 
01:49 < Lorini> hehe
01:49 < fake> but he cheats.
01:49 < daja77> but i do not fake :P
01:53 < Freak> hey Lorini, are you questioning my freakyness?!!!!11
01:53 < rxr> n8 *
01:53 < Freak> nn rxr
01:53 < daja77> n8 rxr 
01:54 * Freak is tired.
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01:55 < Freak> I'm going to bed.
01:55 < daja77> n8 Freak 
01:55 < Freak> your freakyness is leaving you.
01:55 < fake> n8 freak
01:55 < Freak> nitenite daja77, fake, Lorini, esden, *
01:56 < Lorini> night
02:17 * daja77 off to bed
02:20 < mnemoc> cu daja77 
02:20 < fake> night speedy gonzales!
02:25 * fake Thomas D - Wish
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02:50 < mnemoc> G* ppl can't do anything right?
02:50 < mnemoc> A wildcard entry in a zone affects DNS responses for that zone. 
02:50 < mnemoc> For existing applications that conform to the Internet standards 
02:50 < mnemoc> as the world knows them, application developers should consider 
02:50 < mnemoc> taking a more "Microsoft" approach and let us redefine the standard,
02:50 < mnemoc> thus making it your own fault for not anticipating the unplanned
02:50 < mnemoc> oops
02:50 < mnemoc> me neither
02:50 < mnemoc> VERSIONS AFFECTED : <openssh-3.7.1_p2
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03:20 * fake off
03:20 < fake> bye
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05:30 < Mike1> moin
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07:00 < blindcoder> moin
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07:04 < Mike1> hi blindy
07:08 < blindcoder> moin mikey
07:08 < blindcoder> want to kill some ProFTPd-Devs with me?
07:11 < Mike1> sounds like a lot of fun.. count me in
07:11 < Mike1> what did they do to you ?
07:11 < blindcoder> they had a remote-root-exploit in their code
07:11 < Mike1> grrr 
07:11 < blindcoder> patched all versions 1.2.7 - 1.2.9rc2
07:11 < Mike1> which version?>
07:11 < Mike1> mm..
07:12 < blindcoder> uploaded the new tar.gz to their servers and gave them new PGP-Signatures
07:13 < blindcoder> so every proftpd-1.2.[789]* now has new checksums and all...
07:18 < Mike1> you found the bug?
07:18 < blindcoder> no, just read the article at symlink
07:18 < Mike1> okis
07:28 * blindcoder --> breakfast
07:39 * blindcoder back
07:42 < Mike1> wb blindy
07:55 < blindcoder> thx
07:55 < Mike1> what are you doing?
07:56 < Mike1> btw only 6 more days left to leave hell.. how do you feel?
08:06 < blindcoder> I feel like going around with a shotgun
08:06 < blindcoder> killing every "I-am-an-admin"-human that I happen to see
08:06 < Mike1> thank god i am on ur side :)
08:08 < blindcoder> Well, our "IT-Security"-people want us to deactivate the high-priority-security-vulnerability HTTP TRACE on our Apache Intranet-Webservers
08:09 < blindcoder> now, I just found out that some of the more active Intranet-Apaches run on a 4.5 year-old APache!
08:09 < blindcoder> Apache V1.2b10
08:09 < blindcoder> I don't even want to check if that's a beta-version or not...
08:09 < Mike1> hehehe
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08:22 < netrunner> moin
08:24 < blindcoder> moin moin
08:25 < netrunner> moinmoinmoin :)
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08:38 < jsaw_> re
08:38 < jsaw_> hi all
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08:51 < fake> moin
08:52 < blindcoder> moin moin
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10:28 < fake> hi clifford !
10:29 < [anders]> moin zusammen
10:29 < clifford> moin.
10:30 * [anders] just started compiling a rather large project with the -Wbad-function-cast flag switched on.. *sigh*
10:30 < [anders]> only 83 thousand new warnings... ahem...
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11:32 < Lorini> moin everybody
11:37 < fake> morgen Lorini 
11:42 < Lorini> hi fake
11:43 < rxr> ddddddre
11:49 < Freak> sttttttuttttttter?
12:00 < blindcoder> *burps* hi hi and rehi
12:00 < Lorini> hi blindcoder
12:02 < blindcoder> hi there :)
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13:52 < bwolf_> hi folk
14:01 < rxr> hi bwolf_ 
14:08 < daja77> re
14:10 < bwolf_> hi daja
14:10 < Lorini> hi daja :)
14:10 < daja77> hey bwolf_ long time no see :)
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14:15 < bwolf_> hi Lorini
14:15 < Lorini> hi bwolf_ 
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14:23 < martin_> hi all
14:23 < daja77> rxr: you here?
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14:51 < rxr> hi daja77 
14:52 < daja77> oh hi rxr
14:52 * daja77 happy
14:52 < rxr> ;-)
14:52 < daja77> you have a minute for me?
14:53 < rxr> sure
15:00 < fake> re
15:01 < martin_> ohh, hi rxr. I'm sorry for missing at the demonstration.
15:01 < rolla> re
15:01 < rxr> martin_: *klatsch*
15:01 < martin_> rxr: *aua*
15:02 < martin_> rxr: I have forget the date. (Hmm, is date the right word? :-)
15:03 < rxr> yes - date day whatever - AND YOU WERE MISSING!
15:03 < jvc> rxr: hi
15:03 < rxr> http://gsmp.rocklinux-consulting.de/rene/photos/ffii-demo-2003/gallery.html
15:04 < daja77> someone said they decided with a 2/3 majority for software patents :(
15:04 < martin_> rxr: I have look to the gallery. how many people were there?
15:04 < rolla> rxr there are some typos on that page
15:06 < rxr> :-(
15:06 < rolla> just thought you would want to know
15:07 < rolla> abaut
15:07 < rxr> yes sure
15:08 < rolla> I am gald to see some eurpoeans are standing up against the insanity
15:09 * martin_ will be back in some minutes ...
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15:09 < rxr> and you were not standing up against this insanity ???
15:10 < rolla> ?
15:10 < [anders]> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_822534.html <- hehehehehe
15:10 < rxr> "you are glad to see some europeans are standing up" <- you included or not?
15:11 < rolla> well I am american after all
15:11 < rolla> we started the mess
15:12 < rxr> ah - I missed that you are in US ;-)
15:12 < rolla> I thought everyone here knew that
15:12 < rolla> :)
15:12 < rxr> nope - at lest I missed this
15:12 < rxr> nice to see that - I hope you push ROCK Linux over there?
15:12 < rolla> I do
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15:13 < daja77> http://brevets-logiciels.info/wiki/wakka.php?wiki=VoteDu24Septembre2003
15:13 < rolla> you can thank or blame th_ for me being here
15:13 < daja77> rolla: explain
15:14 < rolla> he found me in #vim and kept talking about rocklinux ;)
15:14 < daja77> hehe :)
15:16 < daja77> 361 voix POUR / 187 CONTRE *puke*
15:19 * daja77 seeking new job as ms application programmer , dammit
15:19 < rolla> ?
15:20 < rolla> EU Parliament Approves Software Patents
15:20 < rolla> welcome to hell
15:20 < daja77> me just bein sarcastic, don't worry
15:20 < daja77> thank you very much
15:22 < [anders]> rolla: u got an url for that?
15:23 < [anders]> I don't speak french so the url daja77 posted is a bit useless for me.
15:23 < rolla> yeah that is the only link I have :(
15:23 < rolla> but slashdot also has a article about it
15:24 < rolla> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/24/1253227&mode=thread&tid=155&tid=185&tid=99
15:24 < daja77> [anders]: well in short: 361 votes pro / 187 votes contra
15:24 < rolla> I think near the top is a translation from french
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15:30 < jsaw> I guess this is also interesting: "Massive victory for Open Source campaign", http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=79769&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=155&mode=thread&cid=7042805
15:32 < daja77> oh nice a two line story
15:33 < jsaw> you don't see the full thread?
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15:34 < daja77> yepp, strange i was appointed to rate the comments
15:34 < martin_> re
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15:37 < Lorini> re
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16:08 < daja77> hehe timeout time
16:08 < blindcoder> timeout?
16:09 < rolla> ?
16:09 < daja77> hmm maybe i should have said disconnect time
16:09 < blindcoder> hm
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16:09 < [n00b]Wib> hi
16:10 < Lorini> its hot in here..
16:10 < daja77> Lorini: huh??!
16:10 < [n00b]Wib> i finally got those ls-colors at work :)
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16:10 < blindcoder> is it the weather? or is it you?
16:10 < Lorini> lol
16:10 < Lorini> not me :)
16:12 < daja77> not? damn
16:13 < Lorini> oh, maybe.. lets talk about it :)
16:13 < [n00b]Wib> when i press ctrl-d at startup, it reboots. anyone?
16:14 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: what's the problem with that?
16:14 < [n00b]Wib> it says "type admin pass for maintenance or ctrl-d for normal startup"
16:14 < [n00b]Wib> of course, there are no other users then root
16:15 < daja77> guess some of your filesystems are corrupted
16:15 < daja77> type in root passwd and fix them
16:15 < [n00b]Wib> guess too :)
16:15 < daja77> after that press ctrl-d
16:15 < [n00b]Wib> also, when i give root passwd im not *really* root
16:16 < [n00b]Wib> when i do "login" and type root, i *do* get those ls-colors i was searching for
16:16 < daja77> erh you are but in a maintainance shell
16:16 < [n00b]Wib> ah
16:16 < [n00b]Wib> i c
16:16 < [n00b]Wib> didn't see the difference
16:16 < daja77> no this is only for fixing the filesystems
16:17 < [n00b]Wib> i get this error at startup:
16:17 < [n00b]Wib> "filesystem  error=0 failed (returncode 8)
16:17 < [n00b]Wib> "please repair the broken disks manually"
16:18 < daja77> yes and for doin this you get that shell for nothing else
16:18 < [n00b]Wib> Q: how to repair it :)
16:19 < daja77> what filesystem?
16:19 < [n00b]Wib> A: bother people on rocklinux
16:19 < [n00b]Wib> how do i know which filesystem?
16:19 < daja77> A: read the manuals for filesystems :)
16:19 < [n00b]Wib> aargh
16:20 < daja77> it is that which you have chosen on install
16:20 < [n00b]Wib> well, it was  whole mess, the install
16:20 < [n00b]Wib> i had to manually change host1 to host0
16:20 < daja77> then do it again
16:20 < daja77> O_o
16:20 < [n00b]Wib> then i had to set it to rw instead of ro
16:21 < [n00b]Wib> but i can write files and everything now
16:21 < [n00b]Wib> perhaps my swap file is readonly (not handy :) )
16:22 < daja77> i read some of your horror stories just don't know what the hell went wrong with install ...
16:22 < [n00b]Wib> hehehe :)
16:23 < [n00b]Wib> in the meanwhile, is there a new iso online yet?
16:23 < [n00b]Wib> with the new and improved scsi-kernel :)
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16:23 < daja77> which iso you used?
16:23 < [n00b]Wib> rev 1136  i think
16:23 < [n00b]Wib> ill check
16:24 < daja77> rc1?!
16:24 < [n00b]Wib> drock-2.0.0-rc1-rev1165-x86-pentium-mmx-cd1.iso
16:24 < [n00b]Wib> yes, rc1
16:24 < [n00b]Wib> so rev 1165
16:24 < daja77> no newer isos out there afaik
16:25 < [n00b]Wib> damn, i was hoping of a final, or at least rc4 ;)
16:25 < daja77> rc2 will be out soon, this week i hope
16:25 < [n00b]Wib> woohoow
16:25 < [n00b]Wib> perhaps i'll install from zero
16:26 < [n00b]Wib> (not that i'm that much from zero now)
16:26 < daja77> i would suggest sth like that :)
16:26 < [n00b]Wib> this week, that's only 4 more days
16:26 < [n00b]Wib> okay, in the meanwhile ill optimise my ls-colors :D
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16:27 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: cfdisk will tell which fs is on the partition
16:27 < daja77> so you could check and fix them
16:27 < daja77> maybe it boots up normal then
16:27 < [n00b]Wib> seems normaal
16:28 < [n00b]Wib> 2 discs, both primary, one is bootable
16:28 < [n00b]Wib> 1 linux ext3 and one linux swap
16:28 < daja77> so run a e2fsck -f $part
16:29 < daja77> *yes* http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-24.09.03-000/
16:30 < [n00b]Wib> that e2fsck just gives me some basic commandline parameters i can use 
16:31 < daja77> well $part must be the name of the partition
16:31 < [n00b]Wib> that link is german, but i spose there won't be a software patent law then
16:31 < daja77> yes the most critical parts dropped out
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16:33 < fake> daja77: phew.
16:33 < fake> Das richte sich vor allem an die Open-Source-Szene, da dieser Bereich nun in seiner Gesamtheit "nicht mehr behindert wird".
16:33 < fake> ...
16:33 < daja77> :)
16:35 < [n00b]Wib> it seems something is wrong with my swapfile
16:35 < [n00b]Wib> "couldn't find ext2 superblock"
16:35 < daja77> swapfile?!
16:35 < [n00b]Wib> swappartition
16:35 < fake> o_O
16:35 < daja77> argl you don't need to repair the swap partition
16:35 < [n00b]Wib> windows user, remember :)
16:36 < daja77> only the others
16:36 < [n00b]Wib> only have one other, that checks out ok
16:38 < [n00b]Wib> any other ideas?
16:38 * blindcoder wonders what happens when an ErrorDocument 404 /404.htm doesn't exist...
16:40 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: just fix this partition and do ctrl-d afterwards
16:40 < daja77> we'll see if it works then
16:40 < [n00b]Wib> rebooting
16:41 < [n00b]Wib> it did say something about recovering from journal or something
16:41 < daja77> yepp
16:42 < [n00b]Wib> => /dev/scsi/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 is mounted.   e2fsck: cannot continue, aborting.
16:43 < [n00b]Wib> followed by that returncode 8
16:43 < daja77> *sigh* what did you really do
16:43 < [n00b]Wib> i typed in
16:43 < [n00b]Wib> e2fsck -f /dev/discs/disc0/part0
16:44 < [n00b]Wib> then typed "reboot"
16:44 < daja77> omg why
16:44 < daja77> *hmpf*
16:44 < [n00b]Wib> ... that's how i reboot
16:45 < daja77> well you rebooted with no repair done at all
16:45 < [n00b]Wib> euhm
16:45 < [n00b]Wib> how do i repair *feels stupid*
16:46 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm... the command seems correct to me, too...
16:47 < daja77> blindcoder: not in maintainance shell
16:47 < [n00b]Wib> logged in as root
16:47 < fake> ah, it was mounted...
16:47 < [n00b]Wib> yes, mounted
16:47 < daja77> umount it
16:48 < blindcoder> well... / has the stupid habit of being mounted and being unable to umount it... at this point I'd throw in my ROCK DVD and boot from that
16:48 < [n00b]Wib> that rock cd has no support for my scsidisk... ohwell, i can always modprobe i spose
16:49 < blindcoder> hmm
16:49 < daja77> ok please slow
16:49 < [n00b]Wib> i did
16:49 < [n00b]Wib> "umount /"
16:49 < fake> ...
16:50 < daja77> it worked?
16:50 < [n00b]Wib> it worked
16:50 * blindcoder putting on his flame-, stone- and general-pain-proof armor and prepares to ask a question:
16:50 < fake> . . . 
16:50 < [n00b]Wib> no errors given
16:50 < daja77> good then redo the fsck
16:50 < [n00b]Wib> k
16:51 < blindcoder> "Does anyone know a good Windows-program to access a Firewire-Video-Camera?"
16:51 < [n00b]Wib> i know a guy who knows
16:51 < [n00b]Wib> hang on
16:51 < blindcoder> ehm...
16:51 < blindcoder> good and free :(
16:51 < blindcoder> :)
16:52 < [n00b]Wib> (t)
16:52 < blindcoder> (t)?
16:52 < [n00b]Wib> msn code for *on the phone*
16:52 * blindcoder cries
16:53 < [n00b]Wib> he's not picking up
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16:53 < blindcoder> well, thanks anyway :)
16:53 < A-Tui> hola
16:54 < daja77> hola A-Tui 
16:54 < A-Tui> hi daja77
16:54 < [n00b]Wib> blindcoder: you can contact him on p_i_x_a_r@hotmail.com  beware though: he's very passionate about this kinda stuff
16:55 < daja77> hotmail ...
16:55 < [n00b]Wib> but i don't know if he checks that hotmail
16:55 < [n00b]Wib> else icq?
16:55 < blindcoder> hotmail doesn't accept mail from me...
16:55 < daja77> blindcoder: rofl how you managed that?
16:55 < blindcoder> daja77: I'm on dial-up...
16:55 < daja77> ic
16:55 < [n00b]Wib> 82971811
16:56 < [n00b]Wib> but when i see him, i'll ask
16:56 < blindcoder> thanks I'll try
16:56 < daja77> [n00b]Wib: really this is a public chan with logs you should put in private phone numbers here
16:56 < daja77> s/should/should not
16:56 < [n00b]Wib> alright
16:56 < [n00b]Wib> but its an icq number
16:57 < daja77> anyway, queries exists
16:57 < [n00b]Wib> alright, ill keep it in mind
16:57 < blindcoder> daja77: well, doesn't matter... I accidently posted cliffords snail mail address and phone number here because of EUSER
16:57 < blindcoder> luckily, he doesn't seem to know yet :)
16:57 < daja77> blindcoder: clifford's snail mail address is on his hp as well, so what?
16:58 < blindcoder> hmm
16:58 < [n00b]Wib> ok, i did that e2fsck
16:58 < [n00b]Wib> now ctrld-d?
16:58 < daja77> yes
16:59 * blindcoder streamripping some Aniverse Radio
17:01 < [n00b]Wib> :'( same error
17:02 < daja77> hmm any errors found during the check?
17:07 < [n00b]Wib> no
17:08 < [n00b]Wib> i think i get that error at startup just because it is already mounted
17:08 < daja77> i could not make any out of this
17:08 < [n00b]Wib> if i remove the check from booting, i got no prob
17:09 < daja77> O_o
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17:13 < [n00b]Wib> maybe rxr can help when he's back
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19:12 < daja77> re
19:15 * A-Tui is away: Pelos largos, caras enfermas...
19:15 < daja77> hmm ...
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20:15 < jsaw_>  /me disappears in the wonderland of overheated nerve-cells
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20:17 < daja77> O_o
20:27 < daja77> .oO svn 0.30 is on the way
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20:58 < netrunne1> daja77: yipee :)
20:58 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
20:58 * netrunner is back having a bad aching throat
21:23 < daja77> ?
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22:02 < martin_> gn8
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22:19 < fake> re
22:23 * fake imaging server...
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23:00 < rxr> 5re
23:00 < daja77> wb rxr
23:00 < daja77> thx for demonstration and congratz you have won
23:07 < rxr> won - no we won only some points
23:07 < rxr> but lost a big deal
23:09 < daja77> ?
23:09 < rxr> I only heared they signed the damn paper today ...
23:10 < rxr> daja77: did I missed s.th.
23:10 < daja77> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-24.09.03-000/
23:13 < rxr> well this article does not sound that bad
23:14 < daja77> ack :)
23:23 * fake bored
23:24 < fake> any oracle knowledge in here?
23:24 < Lorini> me
23:24 < daja77> rofl
23:24 < Lorini> pf
23:24 < fake> how can i do a plain-text export of structure and / or data?
23:25 < fake> the damn exp fscks up the files with binary stuff...
23:25 < daja77> ask Lorini ...
23:25 < Lorini> *g*
23:28 < fake> Oracle-to-MySQL
23:28 < fake> order single product $39.85 
23:28 < fake> :P
23:28 < fake> von wegen
23:28 < daja77> rotflmao
23:29 < snyke> rofl
23:29 < snyke> poseidon sucks
23:29 < snyke> just executing make: load average: 33.93, 19.43, 8.34
23:29 < snyke> (make to create aliases and access dbs)
23:30 < daja77> fake: who is so stupid to convert from horrible to mysql?
23:30 < fake> *PRUST*
23:30 < fake> http://www-level3.experts-exchange.com/Databases/Q_20741421.html
23:30 < fake> daja77: a customer.
23:31 < daja77> *click*
23:33 < daja77> hehe what a dumbass
23:33 < Lorini> dumbass
23:33 < daja77> ?
23:34 * fake dumbass
23:34 < daja77> hey this self denying is boring
23:34 < rxr> why is my TODO growing so quickly ....
23:34 < rxr> maybe I shoudl do a rm -f TODO ?
23:35 < daja77> erh no!
23:35 < rxr> or forget one > in the next echo "item" >> TODO execution ?
23:36 < daja77> rxr: is this a call for help?
23:39 < fake> so ein scheiss...
23:40 < daja77> fake: just to be sure, your customer wants to switch from oracle to mysql?
23:40 < fake> yes.
23:40 < daja77> you made my day
23:41 < fake> daja77: the decision is right.
23:41 < daja77> ???!
23:41 < fake> some other company coded an app that needs a database
23:41 < daja77> mysql is no database
23:41 < daja77> it is a joke
23:41 < fake> and because that company had startuphypeionitis, they tought they get a million customers per year.
23:42 < fake> so they startetd implementing a bunch of features, backed by oracle.
23:42 < fake> most of the features never got finished.
23:42 < fake> the company is gone, what's left is a half-way-working app.
23:42 < fake> which uses about 5% of what the database was intended to serve.
23:43 < daja77> use postgres ...
23:43 < fake> daja77: my word.
23:43 < daja77> ok good that we understand each other in this point
23:43 < fake> daja77: but we're gonna try mysql for now.
23:43 < daja77> urgs
23:43 < fake> the application is easily adopted.
23:44 < fake> so if mysql starts to suck, we switch to postgres.
23:44 < daja77> yeah but it is still mysql
23:44 < daja77> hmm 
23:44 < fake> hell, they didn't even use triggers in their layout...
23:44 < fake> a few foreign keys, that's all
23:44 < daja77> i don't trust mysql that's all
23:45 < daja77> + if the app is already running on postgres it is easier to adopt new features
23:45 < daja77> but it is not my business, so ...
23:46 < fake> this app will never see any more features.
23:46 < daja77> hehe sounds good :)
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23:49 * fake going for a cigarette
23:49 < fake> that ssh dd gzip takes ages...
23:50 < daja77> cu fake
23:50 < Lorini> mh cigarette
23:51 < daja77> O_o you smoke?
23:51 < Lorini> not really
23:51 < Lorini> i did
23:51 < Lorini> and sometimes i still do ;)
23:52 < daja77> hehe like clifford who calls himself an event smoker
23:52 < Lorini> *g*
23:53 < fake> hm
23:53 < fake> too lazy do go downwarfs
23:53 < fake> wards...
23:53 < fake> *openingwindow*
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