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--- Log opened Thu Sep 25 00:00:27 2003 00:09 < esden> hi all 00:09 < fake> hi esden 00:10 < daja77> huhu esden *hug* 00:10 < Lorini> hi esden 00:11 < rxr> SMP: ! 00:11 < esden> hi fake,Lorini 00:11 < esden> hi daja77 *hug* 00:11 < rxr> hi esden 00:12 < esden> hi rxr 00:12 -!- ringo78 [ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 00:12 < daja77> ringo78! 00:12 < esden> hmm dietlibc seems to have a bug in building libcompat.so ... 00:12 < ringo78> hi daja77 ! 00:12 < daja77> long time no see, how are you? 00:13 < netrunner> hi esden! 00:13 * netrunner cutting his throat 00:13 < esden> if I start a program linked against libcompat.so I get an error saying that libcompat.so is not position independant ... does anyone of you have an idea what it means? 00:13 < esden> netrunner: ? 00:13 < ringo78> fine thx, trying other op. sys (linux not working atm) 00:13 < esden> hi sbtw ;) 00:13 < esden> hi ringo78 00:14 < ringo78> hi esden :) 00:14 < netrunner> esden: mine, hurts badly :( 00:14 < esden> ohh 00:14 < esden> I am sorry for you 00:15 < netrunner> esden: but I tried to call you several times ... found a hppa based workstation and I was told you'd know stuff about it? 00:15 < ringo78> what is the current version of stable rock (desktop) ? 00:16 < netrunner> now I bought a dvi->vga adapter and found that the dvi(-like looking) connector on that ws is wider than the plug I bought :( 00:16 < daja77> ringo78: 2.0.0rc1 00:16 < esden> netrunner: I got a linux kernel booting on a apollo machine ... that was all 00:17 < esden> netrunner: I am in poland at the moment and my cellphone is offline because I have to pay if someone calls me on that number ... 00:17 < ringo78> nice I am going to try this week :) 00:18 * netrunner feeds the wardialer with esdens nr 00:19 < daja77> maybe rc2 comes out soon 00:19 < ringo78> ok I have some spare cdr's 00:19 < netrunner> esden: ah. so I'll first try to get a picture out of it ... with hpux 00:20 < netrunner> aha ... what I thought to be dvi revealed itself as "35 PIN MOLEX "MicroCross" FEMALE" 00:21 < daja77> <- has a hp-ux too 00:22 < esden> I have a hp-ux box from the trash of my university ;-) 00:22 < daja77> hehe me too 00:22 < esden> I still had no time to start a port to it ... and that will be no fun ... that box has only 33MHz 00:23 < daja77> esden: hehe doin a port is the last item on my todo as well 00:24 -!- mnemoc [~chatzilla@200.75.4.109] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.34 [Mozilla rv:1.5a/20030718]") 00:25 < esden> I hope someone else will do that port ;-) 00:25 < esden> I still have alpha on my head ... 00:26 < daja77> well parts of it are added by rxr already 00:26 < esden> but dietlibc is killing all my free time at the moment ... :( 00:26 < esden> yes I know 00:26 < daja77> fefe the murderer ... 00:27 < netrunner> n8 00:27 < daja77> n8 netrunner 00:27 * netrunner trying to cure his throat :/ 00:28 < daja77> hehe drink some whiskey 00:28 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 00:28 < daja77> wb mnemoc 00:29 < mnemoc> hi daja77 :) 00:30 < esden> daja77: hehe yes something of that kind ;-) 00:31 < mnemoc> hi esden 00:32 < esden> wee I managed it to read all rlml mails!!! 00:32 < daja77> n8 you all 00:32 < esden> hi mnemoc 00:32 < esden> n8 daja77 00:32 < Lorini> nacht daja 00:34 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 00:34 < fake> lag.. 00:39 < fake> fsck 00:39 < esden> ... 00:40 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux () 00:40 < esden> 1% inconsistend disc (or how it is called ;) ) 00:40 < esden> s/nd/nt/ 00:41 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:42 < fake> re Lorini 00:42 < Lorini> re 00:43 < mnemoc> re lagged_fake 00:43 < mnemoc> :) 00:43 < mnemoc> re Lorini 00:44 < esden> ok ... I am off 00:44 < esden> good night everyone 00:44 < Lorini> good night 00:45 < fake> n8 00:47 < fake> hm... 00:48 * fake frustrated 00:49 < Lorini> try some chocolate 00:49 < fake> i don't like chocolate 00:49 < mnemoc> weird 00:58 < fake> ich leg mich jetz erstmal ins bett. 00:58 < fake> o_O 00:59 * fake moving to bed 00:59 < fake> brb 00:59 < Lorini> good night 00:59 < fake> no, no, not like that ;) 00:59 < fake> like i could sleep now. 00:59 < Lorini> :) 01:06 < fake> re. 01:07 * fake Subway to Sally - Rosen im Wasser 01:07 < Lorini> re.. 01:08 < Lorini> isnt it die rose im wasser? 01:09 < fake> not sure 01:09 < fake> i've got both ;) 01:09 < Lorini> lol 01:10 * Lorini subway to sally - grabrede mit knochenpolka 01:21 * fake 's frustration is direct proportional to the flow of time 01:31 * fake Eisregen - Zeit zu spielen 01:48 -!- ringo78 [ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("Lost terminal") 01:54 * fake off 01:54 -!- fake [~fake@pD950EF0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] Dr. Kavorkian is DYING to use BitchX. Aren't you?") 02:14 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026134.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 02:18 < mnemoc> linuxs or linuxes or just linux? =( 02:19 < mnemoc> linux machines :) 02:45 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.186.140.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:59 -!- Mike1 [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 03:00 < Mike1> Greetings 03:03 < mnemoc> wb Mike1 03:03 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:04 < Mike1> thanks Don mnemoc 03:46 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.186.140.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 03:46 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.154.198.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:41 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.154.198.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 04:41 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.11.181.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:04 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.11.181.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 05:05 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.118.55.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:45 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:47 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 06:48 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.118.55.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 07:10 < blindcoder> moin 07:11 < Mike1> moin blindy 07:11 < blindcoder> moin mikey :) 07:29 < blindcoder> okay, will do so on the weekend 08:17 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.27.177.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.171.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:05 -!- freed [Administra@pD9501BAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:05 < freed> hi all 09:07 < blindcoder> moin 09:10 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.27.177.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:12 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-3-213.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:12 < DeElsasser> moin 09:14 < blindcoder> moin moin 09:14 < DeElsasser> moin moin moin 09:15 < blindcoder> nah :) 09:35 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-3-213.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:37 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-3-213.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:42 -!- veninga [veninga@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has quit ("Leaving") 09:43 -!- iBook [~martin@141.64.23.132] has joined #rocklinux 09:49 -!- iBook [~martin@141.64.23.132] has quit ("bye bye") 10:46 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-3-213.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting") 10:50 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-082-082-080-241.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:01 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.147.130.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:04 < daja77> moin 11:06 < rxr> re 11:06 < daja77> moin rxr 11:07 < rxr> moin daja77 11:12 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-001.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:15 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB7C32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:15 < fake> moin 11:15 < daja77> huhu fake 11:19 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.171.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 11:33 < fake> instant server: 11:33 < fake> wget -O - https://www.bsdboys.net/FreeBSD4.6_dd.gz | gunzip -d -c | dd of=/dev/hda bs=32k 11:33 < fake> ;-) 11:39 < daja77> :) 11:47 < Lorini> good morning! 11:49 < daja77> goooood moooorrrrning Lorini 11:51 < fake> moin Lorini 11:51 < blindcoder> moin all :-) 11:52 < Lorini> what a wonderful day 11:52 -!- veninga [veninga@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:53 < blindcoder> ehm... well... I don't know if it's wonderful, but it's definately a day :) 11:54 < Lorini> *g* 11:55 * blindcoder is nervous... 11:56 < fake> and it's damn cold here 11:56 < fake> the wind is icy.. 11:56 < daja77> wimps! 11:56 * daja77 preparing to run 11:58 < blindcoder> fake: where are you? 11:58 < fake> damn. my instant-server doesn't work.... 11:58 < blindcoder> I'm in a nice climated Ex-Serverroom :) 11:58 < fake> blindcoder: why do you ask? 11:58 < blindcoder> fake: maybe because it's -o - and not -O - 11:58 < fake> i'm outside 11:59 < blindcoder> fake: hmm... Maybe I should order some warm coffee over to you :) 11:59 < fake> the manpage says -o would be fatal 11:59 < blindcoder> hrm? mom.... 11:59 < fake> i have warm coffee besides me :P 11:59 < fake> -o would be the logfile 11:59 < fake> -O is the actual data 12:00 < fake> and i don't want to write wget logs onto my hd block-wise ;) 12:00 < daja77> hehe 12:00 < fake> --output-document 12:00 < blindcoder> hmm... then something's definately screwed up here... 12:01 < blindcoder> hmm... that might explain why op61.torrent doesn't work... *GNARF* 12:01 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.163.6.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:01 * blindcoder stupid 12:01 * fake talking about wget 1.8.2 12:01 * blindcoder standing in dark corner as punishment 12:02 < daja77> pah dark corner so that no one can see you, no way 12:02 < Lorini> lol 12:03 < blindcoder> daja77: it was worth a try :-) 12:03 < daja77> :) 12:06 * blindcoder wonders... 12:08 < blindcoder> today I'll be told where I have to work starting at Oct 1st 12:09 < daja77> where? 12:09 < blindcoder> yes, where 12:09 < blindcoder> Siemens didn't negotiate a new contract so I'll be somewhere else 12:10 < daja77> good for you 12:11 < blindcoder> well, it _can_ get worse so I'm don't want to jinx it :/ 12:12 < fake> aaargh 12:12 * blindcoder now updating his own rock-tree to svn HEAD 12:12 < fake> bakaro! 12:12 < blindcoder> fake: ? 12:12 < daja77> well you should see this as a chance, really 12:13 < fake> the server didn't work because in rc.conf they say ifconfig_rl0... but the card is a vr0 ... *douh* 12:13 < blindcoder> besides, it's bakayarou 12:13 < fake> and i can read that, but the damn linux kernel is unable to write to the ufs 12:13 < fake> so i just would have to change 2 bytes... and it would work... 12:14 < blindcoder> fake: sed 's,ifconfig_rl0,vr0,g' /dev/hda ? 12:14 < fake> ifconfig_vr0, actually 12:14 < blindcoder> daja77: well, best case it's migrating 300 Windows to Linux 12:14 < fake> blindcoder: block device != character stream 12:14 < blindcoder> fake: or that... but can sed handle that? 12:14 < fake> nope 12:15 < fake> hexedit ;) 12:15 < blindcoder> gnarf, dd if=/dev/hda of=- conv=stat | sed 's,bla,blubb,g' >/muchspace/file 12:15 < blindcoder> you could also pipe it through bzip2 -9 if you want :-) 12:16 < fake> or do > /dev/hda ;) 12:16 * fake recreating server image 12:16 < blindcoder> hmm... never tried with blok devices, but I know that this would kill files... 12:17 < fake> *sigh*. 2 hrs hd nulling, 30min installation, 2hrs image creation, 4hrs upload, 1hr image writing... 12:17 < fake> and 5 minutes to see wether it worked or not 12:17 < daja77> hehe 12:18 < blindcoder> :-x 12:19 < blindcoder> hmm 12:19 < blindcoder> is it normal that bc depends on itself? 12:19 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.147.130.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 12:20 -!- iBook [~martin@141.64.23.132] has joined #rocklinux 12:20 < iBook> hello 12:23 -!- freed [Administra@pD9501BAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 12:26 < fake> how do i null a hard driver with 40 GB as fast as possible? 12:26 < fake> for (( i=0; i<320; i++ )); do echo -e "\0" | dd of=/dev/hda bs=128M conv=sync seek=${i}; done 12:26 < fake> anyone got a better idea? 12:29 < rxr> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disc/discX/disc 12:29 < daja77> *cough* you forgot a blocksize 12:30 < fake> rxr: thats slooooooooooow like hell 12:30 < Mike1> *yawn* 12:30 < rxr> fake: bs=1024 ? 12:31 < rxr> hi Mike1 12:31 < blindcoder> fake: take a strong magnet and pray :-) 12:31 < fake> rxr: 2048, because that would be the cache size of my hd. 12:31 < Mike1> greetings rxr 12:31 < fake> but the above method is faster by magnitudes 12:31 < fake> becuas conv=sync overwrites the rest of a block with \0 automagically 12:32 < daja77> moin Mike1 12:32 < Mike1> hi daja77 12:32 < fake> with conventional methods i get about 10MB/s 12:32 < fake> with the above i get 35MB/s 12:33 < rxr> fake: which OS ? 12:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: you should borrow him ur magnet :) 12:34 < fake> rxr: linux? 12:34 < blindcoder> Mike1: well, at least he will have random characters on it then :) 12:34 < blindcoder> fake: why do you want to null the disk? 12:34 < rxr> and maybe lose the wohle disk - due to missig servo info and so on .. 12:35 < rxr> fake: hm . 12:35 < fake> blindcoder: so i don't have to transfer 40GB over my 16kb/s upstream 12:35 < iBook> hi rxr, martin here 12:35 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD95069B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:35 < fake> i null a disc, partition & format it, install an OS, dd that through gzip and upload it. 12:35 < fake> so 40GB become ~170MB 12:36 < blindcoder> fake: oh, so you want to upload a complete hd-image? 12:36 < Mike1> greetings jsaw 12:36 < jsaw> re 12:36 < blindcoder> hmm.... okay, sounds reasonable 12:36 < jsaw> hi Mike1 12:55 < rxr> cu 12:55 * rxr off to ikea ... 13:01 -!- iBook [~martin@141.64.23.132] has left #rocklinux ("bye bye") 13:27 -!- Mike1 [~mike@ip228-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 13:34 * fake Wagner - Walkuerenritt 13:44 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-132.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:27 * fake bored 14:32 * blindcoder updating his packages, so much to do :) 14:34 * fake still frustrated at mozilla svg support 14:37 < blindcoder> why? 14:37 < blindcoder> doesn't work? 14:39 < fake> it's not supporting the svg+xml-mim-type 14:54 -!- clifford_away is now known as clifford 14:55 < fake> hi clifford! 14:58 < clifford> hi fake. 14:59 < blindcoder> moin clifford 15:00 < fake> hrmpf 15:01 < Nebukadneza> oh clifford ... hi 15:01 < fake> adobe svg plugin needs libgtksuperwin, which is no longer included with mozilla 1.4... hrmpf. 15:01 < Nebukadneza> eaten mushrooms again? *G* 15:20 < blindcoder> wow, my first ROCK patch in months :/ 15:38 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FA98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:38 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 15:39 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:44 * fake away 15:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-132.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 16:09 < esden> hi all 16:10 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit ("reboot") 16:12 < blindcoder> moin esden! *hug* 16:14 < esden> cu all ... brb 16:16 < blindcoder> hmpf 16:22 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 16:24 < mnemoc> nobody likes my extraversion patch?? =( 16:25 < blindcoder> whichb do you mean? 16:26 < mnemoc> on 17's morning i send a patch to really honor extraversion of linux2* 16:27 < mnemoc> (well tested) 16:27 < mnemoc> but nobody answer a thing :( 16:29 < blindcoder> haven't really looked into it since I'm not very well versed into the inner specs of hte linux-packages... 16:31 < mnemoc> it's pretty simple, in the beginig grab 'extraversion' from vanilla 16:31 < mnemoc> cleaning it after 16:31 < mnemoc> and then grab extraversion of every patch applied, cleaning it too 16:33 < mnemoc> and at the end it inject 'full' extraversion to Makefile creating linux24-benh-ctx17a-rsbac-uml-foo-var-rock =) 16:33 < mnemoc> linux-2.4.22-benh..... (fix) 16:36 < blindcoder> hrm... 16:36 < blindcoder> at least you'd know what you have patched into your kernel... 16:38 < mnemoc> i have a working machine with linux2.4.22-ctx17a-rsbac-rock :) 16:38 < mnemoc> the patch is _really_ simple... take a look =) 16:39 < mnemoc> well... not really 'working' but 'prompting login/pass' ;) 16:39 < mnemoc> i have to test rsbac/ctx compatibility 16:41 < mnemoc> (btw, the long line written before just included all the suffixes i remembered at that moment, nothing about compatibility) 16:41 < blindcoder> mhm 16:43 < mnemoc> nobody likes my patch =( 16:45 -!- mnemoc is now known as __mnemoc 16:46 < daja77> re 16:47 < daja77> .oO protected __mnemoc again 16:47 < Lorini> re 16:50 < blindcoder> re daja77, Lorini 16:51 < daja77> huhu blindy 16:51 < rxr> re 16:53 < daja77> re rxr 16:53 < blindcoder> re rxr 16:54 < daja77> rxr: i'd like to discuss some stuff for a multimedia target when you have some time for it 17:14 < __mnemoc> re daja77 :) 17:14 < __mnemoc> re rxr 17:14 * fake sitting in front of a windows NT 4machine, using IE 2.0 17:15 < fake> feeling nostalgic 17:15 < __mnemoc> fake: http 1.0?? at least get ie4sp1 :) 17:15 < __mnemoc> sorry 0.9 ;) 17:15 < fake> __mnemoc : i'm downloading netscape 7.1 right now 17:15 < rxr> daja77: oehm - not yet. Maybe later. 17:16 < daja77> yepp, as i said, _when_ you have time :) 17:16 < fake> iv ISDN -_- 17:17 < fake> over single channel ISDN that should say 17:17 * fake away again 17:18 < rxr> daja77: ;-) I have to sort the univerity plan for this semester 17:18 < esden> re hi all 17:18 < daja77> cu fake 17:18 < blindcoder> esden: *hug* 17:18 < rxr> theoretically it allready started monday ... 17:18 < rxr> and the TODO already is that long 17:18 < daja77> rxr: hehe should do that soon too :) 17:19 < daja77> hi esden 17:19 < __mnemoc> re esden 17:19 < esden> blindcoder: *hug* 17:19 < esden> hi daja77, __mnemoc 17:20 < esden> cu fake 17:20 < blindcoder> esden: I miss you *snif* 17:20 < esden> I miss you too ... we can meet on next tuesday or how it is spelled ;) 17:20 < daja77> really? 17:20 < esden> in the night ... 17:20 * daja77 hides 17:21 < Lorini> oh.. sweet 17:21 < Lorini> daja! 17:21 < esden> you have to show me what you have learned in the dance school ;) 17:21 < blindcoder> I have my first lesson next Tuesday... 17:21 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... then on wenesday 17:21 < blindcoder> Lorini: True love can only exist between men! :) 17:21 < daja77> Lorini! 17:21 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... not much to show... But okay :) 17:21 < esden> blindcoder: full ack ;) 17:21 < Lorini> blindcoder: of course.. 17:22 < esden> blindcoder: not much is more then nothing ... 17:22 < blindcoder> esden: Wednesday to dance lesson I'd say :) 18:30!! 17:22 < daja77> <- feels bein wathced by Lorini 17:22 < esden> blindcoder: !!! GRRRR 17:22 < Lorini> daja: sometimes you are right.. 17:22 < blindcoder> esden: What??? *cry* 17:22 < esden> please before the lesson ... that would be more usefull ;) 17:23 < daja77> O_o 17:23 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... okay... 17:00 @bitz 17:23 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... should be enough 17:23 < Lorini> i am big brother! ..uhm.. sister! 17:23 < blindcoder> esden: depends on how fast you learn :D 17:23 < daja77> uh 17:23 < blindcoder> Lorini-oneesama :D 17:24 < esden> uh oh ... maild from Mr. Blindy on RLML ... nice ;) 17:24 * -> esden reading 17:24 < blindcoder> esden: /mbe whistles innocently 17:24 < daja77> hehe blindy even writing to dasr .... 17:24 < esden> blindcoder: I ... I am unable to learn ... but that is an other thing ... 17:24 < blindcoder> daja77: yeah, I've been bored 17:24 * blindcoder taking out a clue-by-four 17:24 < blindcoder> You *will* learn 17:25 * blindcoder listening Aniverse Radio @work 17:25 < esden> blindcoder: I feel the input device on my head already 17:26 < blindcoder> MUAHAHA 17:26 * blindcoder --> brb 17:26 < esden> input device aka baseball bat ... 17:28 * blindcoder back 17:28 < blindcoder> hehe, hddtemp is nice :) 17:28 * daja77 wondering if any cluebat would work on esden 17:29 < blindcoder> daja77: only if it's well-shaped and Polish :D 17:29 < SMP> daja77: it would be too heavy for anyone to lift it ;> 17:29 * blindcoder runs 17:29 < daja77> rofl 17:33 < esden> you ave very nice to me guys, I very appreciate that 17:33 < blindcoder> We're trying hard :) 17:33 < daja77> we all lovbe you esden ... 17:36 < esden> yes I see it ... 17:36 < Lorini> what is "lovbe"? 17:36 < blindcoder> Lorini: love with a tpypo 17:36 < esden> that is a way daja feels for me ... ;) 17:36 < Lorini> esden: *gg* 17:36 < Lorini> nice 17:36 < blindcoder> hehe, hddtemp is really nice :) 17:36 < daja77> not only me .... 17:36 < esden> blindcoder: you are repeating yourself 17:37 < daja77> no he exaggerated 17:38 < blindcoder> esden: I'm currently tying to imtegrate it into my ledmeter 17:38 < Lorini> ok, i have to go now 17:38 < Lorini> see you tomorrow 17:38 < blindcoder> to say: LED on --> HD too hot 17:39 < daja77> cu Lorini 17:43 < esden> blindcoder: nice 17:43 < blindcoder> esden: I have a project I want to do you might be interested in :) 17:46 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:50 < fake> re 17:50 < blindcoder> or maybe not... 17:50 < blindcoder> rehi 17:51 < [n00b]Wib> back again with questions :) => i can see my ethernet devices on lspci, but not on ifconfig 17:53 < daja77> if you are still in maintainance shell we cannot help you 17:53 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 < [n00b]Wib> im logged in as root :) 17:54 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.53.88.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:54 < [n00b]Wib> (but that disk still gives that error, i'll live with it) 17:55 < daja77> well if your install is that fscked up as you described it here, from what do you think to continue 17:55 < [n00b]Wib> what you tell me now, i don't have to ask later 17:56 < [n00b]Wib> what i've tried: 17:56 < [n00b]Wib> run stone 17:56 < [n00b]Wib> go to kernel drivers and hardware config 17:56 < [n00b]Wib> checked "realtek semiconductor" 17:56 < [n00b]Wib> but then it gives an error 17:56 < daja77> well if your install would have worked fine the number of question would be lesser 17:56 < [n00b]Wib> true 17:57 < [n00b]Wib> but i'm still learning alot in the meanwhile 17:57 < [n00b]Wib> "can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.22/modules.dep (no such file or directory)" 17:58 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E229.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:58 < daja77> related to your hd errors, really you have no base to work on 17:58 < [n00b]Wib> alright then 18:01 < daja77> sorry 18:01 < esden> [n00b]Wib: to create modules.dep run depmod -a 18:02 < esden> if you still want to fight that dying machine ;) 18:02 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 18:03 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-be-13-2-dialup-270.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 18:03 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-be-13-2-dialup-270.freesurf.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 18:04 < daja77> esden: he is working from within maitainance shell, setting up networking there makes no sense 18:05 < esden> daja77: ack 18:11 < [n00b]Wib> will 2.0 be out during or after the weekend? 18:11 < [n00b]Wib> i mean: the next rev 18:12 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.163.6.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:15 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD95069B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:15 < __mnemoc> [n00b]Wib: did you hand rebuild your kernel? 18:17 < [n00b]Wib> rxr did that for me 18:18 < [n00b]Wib> well i mean the vmlinuz image 18:18 < __mnemoc> you need to install modules of that rebuild too 18:18 < __mnemoc> mmmm 18:18 < __mnemoc> ls /lib/modules 18:18 < [n00b]Wib> but no matter, ill just wait untill next release, there the installation will recognize my hardware, and i'll start all over 18:18 < __mnemoc> ok :) 18:22 < rxr> [n00b]Wib: hm - I have not decided if I include the huge qla1280 SCSI update into our official kernel - that would be a big to-be-maintained patch ... 18:23 * rxr shortly away ... 18:26 < [n00b]Wib> ic 18:28 < [n00b]Wib> once you have a working qla, do you need to have it maintained? of course there is still the matter of size... 18:29 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.145.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:29 < __mnemoc> [n00b]Wib: will you build your rock or you will only tune binary-distributed drocks? 18:30 < __mnemoc> because you can include that patch in your own-personal-target and build your rock with qla1280 support 18:31 < daja77> hehe with extension 18:31 * daja77 hides 18:32 < [n00b]Wib> mnemoc: ill build my own rock 18:32 < [n00b]Wib> if i can figure out how :) 18:33 < [n00b]Wib> but of course, i'd like to get my current binary working.. 18:33 < __mnemoc> daja77: linux2.4.22-qla1280-rock :) 18:33 < daja77> :) 18:33 < [n00b]Wib> :) 18:33 < __mnemoc> read in the handbook about targets 18:34 < daja77> why a new target for that? 18:34 < [n00b]Wib> now reading this one : https://www.linux-tutorial.info/cgi-bin/display.pl?3&0&2&0&3 18:36 < __mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbook.html <--- this is the handbook, but improving your linux knowledge is good :) 18:37 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909197e.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:37 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508022EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:37 < __mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/ moved :\ 18:37 < [n00b]Wib> somewhere this year i believe we have to do some linuxing at school, but i believe it'll be very basic, like installing debian orso 18:42 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-132.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:44 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:46 < esden> cu all 18:47 < daja77> cu esden 18:48 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.53.88.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:48 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802223.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:52 -!- __mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 18:52 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:55 < jsaw_> rxr: ping 18:58 -!- __mnemoc1 [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 18:59 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:06 < rxr> poing 19:07 < rxr> jsaw_: I'm going to reboot the iBook into a updated kernel - feel free to post your Q already 19:07 * rxr back in a minute (hopefully) 19:08 < jsaw_> rxr: I got a huge problem: docbook/dtd stuff will not do without /etc/postinstall.d 19:10 < jsaw_> me also back in a few secs 19:10 -!- __mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:16 -!- __mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:16 < rxr> re 19:16 < rxr> jsaw_: you mean the gnome scrollkeeper stuff? 19:16 < jsaw_> also 19:17 < jsaw_> generally additional dtd's seem not to be recursively detected by "xmlcatalog" 19:17 -!- __mnemoc1 is now known as mnemoc 19:18 < jsaw_> look into "docbookx412/buildDocBookCatalog" 19:18 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:18 < rxr> this is the file which downloads the files from sourceforge ? 19:18 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 19:19 < jsaw> nope. Just the file, that generates /etc/xml/catalog, /etc/xml/docbook. 19:19 < jsaw> And probably also responsible for the constant downloads of dtd by scrollkeeper. 19:20 < jsaw> (but I'm not sure, because I haven't installed my stuff) 19:20 < jsaw> s/)/yet)/ 19:24 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:27 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:35 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:44 < jsaw> rxr: next question: how do I sort priorities in only one repo? 19:51 < rxr> oehm - why? 19:52 < jsaw> rxr: because there are too many packages to be re-sorted by hand in gnome24 (I lost overview). 19:53 < daja77> the gnome effect ... 19:53 < jsaw> (I extracted the build order from garnome, but obviously did sth. wrong...) 19:55 < rxr> jsaw: hm I do not think the scripts have support for this - just resort all and sent only the gnome24 repository 19:56 < rxr> but for the sorting you need .cache files do you have those ? 19:56 < jsaw> $builddir/var/adm/cache/, or? 19:58 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD9530CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:58 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 20:03 < rxr> they utilize the package/$repository/$pkg/$pkg.cache file ... 20:04 < jsaw> yeah, yeah, I know. But I can copy them from var/adm/cache there, can't I? 20:04 < daja77> hmm the err count reduced to 30 now :) 20:06 < daja77> ah nice sshd lost its host keys after Emerge-Pkg 20:07 < rxr> sure 20:10 < daja77> no they are not lost, but they are not in /etc/ssh dir as default config expects and have different names :-( 20:10 < daja77> config was overwritten 20:11 < daja77> i just don't know why we changed this (having the keys lying around in /etc) 20:13 < daja77> ah configs are duplicate *sigh* 20:15 < daja77> *argl* 20:15 < daja77> the startup scripts expects the config in /etc/ssh but they are in /etc we must have moved that in the meantime 20:17 < daja77> ok fixed 20:19 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 < frikkalikka> hi guys 20:20 < frikkalikka> some troubles installing rock 20:21 < daja77> d'oh automatic dependency resolving shows strange results 20:21 < daja77> according to our script it depends dia depends on sendmail and isdn4k-utils O_o 20:22 < daja77> s/it depends// 20:24 < frikkalikka> why /scripts/Config cant see any file in /scripts/ ? 20:24 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:25 < frikkalikka> i've exported a new PATH with the path of scripts 20:25 < frikkalikka> but nothing changes 20:26 < daja77> hm? 20:27 < daja77> there is no need to set a path ... 20:28 < daja77> you start the scripts from which directory? 20:33 < frikkalikka> /root/tmp/rock____/scripts 20:33 < daja77> you should start the script from /root/tmp/rock____ 20:34 < frikkalikka> ok 20:34 < daja77> with ./scripts/Config 20:35 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.188.255.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 < frikkalikka> now it's working 20:35 < frikkalikka> :) 20:35 < frikkalikka> tnx 20:35 < daja77> :) 20:44 < [n00b]Wib> was everything in life this easy... 20:46 < [n00b]Wib> so im still getting that e2fsck error at boot 20:47 < [n00b]Wib> and when shutting down, it umounts the same disk twice, once as rw and once as ro 20:54 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.145.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 20:59 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909197e.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:03 < fake> ... 21:03 < fake> re 21:03 < jsaw> fake: https://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/ 21:03 < fake> jsaw: you're into svg? 21:04 < jsaw> fake: no, just stumbled over the freshmeat announcement, remembering your complaint 21:04 < jsaw> fake: but I maybe will create an svg rock theme - sooner or later 21:06 < frikkalikka> how can i find the packageslist?? 21:06 < frikkalikka> how can i find the packages list?? 21:07 < frikkalikka> ...where 21:07 < frikkalikka> ? 21:07 < jsaw> frikkalikka: of your config or all available? 21:09 < frikkalikka> all available 21:09 < jsaw> e.g. echo package/*/* 21:15 < fake> jsaw: the native svg renderer in mozilla is not really nice 21:15 < frikkalikka> oh sorry not the packages 21:15 < frikkalikka> mirrors list 21:17 < fake> frikkala: read scripts/Download ;) 21:17 < jsaw> fake: hmm... (btw, the gtksuperwin is still in the source ...) 21:17 < fake> jsaw: but not on my machine, unfortunately :P 21:18 < jsaw> fake: I know, it's not compiled, only in the mozilla sources. 21:28 < fake> hrmpf. 21:28 < fake> it's getting damn cold outsides... 21:29 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:47 < fake> /var/log/boredom: no space left on device 21:50 < Aard_> similar problem. no idea how to solve $problem. :( 21:50 < fake> Aard_: auch auf nix bock? 21:51 < Aard_> fake: noe. auf arbeit, am coden, aber gerade gedankenleere. 21:51 < Aard_> mach gerade zur ablenkung mal wieder ein paar bildchen -- https://bwachter.lart.info/public/pictures/DSCW0026.JPG 21:53 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:54 < fake> Aard_ is a windows user. 21:54 < Aard_> only @work 21:54 < fake> yeah yeah... 21:55 < fake> https://osnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=41732/ut=d9eb7c324a1d654a 21:55 < fake> hm, maybe we all should use thatr. 21:59 < fake> 430951 bytes transferred in 0.2 seconds (1.76 MBps) 21:59 < fake> muhaha. 22:03 * fake brb 22:05 < daja77> rofl @ Aard_ 22:06 < Aard_> daja77: ? 22:07 < daja77> that workspace with food and drinks ... 22:07 < daja77> reminds me of work a bit ... 22:07 < Aard_> it is work :) 22:07 < daja77> :) 22:08 < daja77> nice tft 22:09 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-132.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:11 < daja77> rotf /me got mail from fedora, they made rhymess in their announcement 22:11 < daja77> +l 22:11 < daja77> where fedora = redhat 22:12 < Aard_> uff. got the main loop working :) 22:13 < daja77> hehehe the only rh mirror in south america is in chile ... 22:16 < mnemoc> ./scripts/* are designed to run in that way, not in PATH 22:16 < mnemoc> oops 22:16 < mnemoc> damn scroll :| 22:17 < mnemoc> daja77: there are many rh mirrors here, not just one 22:17 < daja77> only one official 22:17 < daja77> which carries the beta 22:21 < Aard_> ..watching a bit `monty pythons sense of life'. maybe that will help 22:25 < mnemoc> anybody tracing the 'broke' on lvm? 22:32 < SMP> what broke? 22:33 < fake> that's cool. whenever you need to talk to SMP, just say the magic three letter 'lvm', and he'll be here. 22:35 < mnemoc> ++ sed -f conftest.s1 22:35 < mnemoc> sed: file conftest.s1 line 39: Unterminated `s' command 22:35 < mnemoc> on config.status 22:35 < mnemoc> it's dummy but have to be solved :-\ 22:36 < SMP> why the hell did it break? lvm just used to work 22:37 < mnemoc> don't know yet 22:37 < fake> .oO( then patch sed... *g* ) 22:37 < SMP> fake: *SIGH* 22:37 < fake> :P 22:38 < SMP> and then let's patch the c preprocessort so it automatically includes missing headers ... 22:38 < mnemoc> =\ 22:38 < rxr> .oO ( This C header inclusing is a bit miss-concept anyway ) 22:38 < rxr> s/bit/big/ 22:39 < fake> SMP: that's cool. how about self-completing makefiles, that guess $prefix ? 22:40 < SMP> right 22:41 < SMP> and then for ROCK 3.0 we rewrite everything scripts/* in LISP and have a self-correcting build system 22:41 < fake> no, in Java. 22:42 < daja77> hey! don't make me leave here 22:42 < fake> and we keep an online RMI server, where the corrected objects are persisted 22:42 < SMP> no, Java is ROCK 4.0 22:42 < fake> so all intelligence is equally distributed. 22:42 < fake> what's in store for 5.0 then? 22:42 < daja77> haha Rock 5 is python and rock 6 is ruby *screaming* 22:42 < fake> ah, let's do that in bash - hahaha 22:43 < SMP> we use the build output from 3.0 to train a genetic algorithm that automatically figures out how to transform the sources into that build output 22:43 < fake> javascript? 22:43 < fake> then we can give the rocklinux_.org_ a meaning - rocklinux.organism 22:44 < SMP> excatly! 22:44 < daja77> and i though only esden is drunk ... 22:44 < SMP> because ROCK 6.0 will pass the Turing test! 22:44 < fake> ... we will bring evidence to the substrate independence theory... 22:45 < fake> we can't plan the releases after rock 6.0 because rock will plan the by itself... 22:46 < fake> rxr's mew-autoapply-patch-script will replace a stable maintainer by then. 22:46 < SMP> no, there will be no releases past 6.0 22:46 < rxr> fake: btw - reminder: speach output pluging ;-) 22:46 < SMP> because ROCK 6.0 will negate all existence in the universe 22:47 < daja77> rocklinux 42 ... 22:47 < fake> because 6.0 will overtake the world and start a global thermonuclear war to hunt glibc writers ? ;)) 22:47 < daja77> and autoconf developers 22:47 < SMP> no, it think the Great GNU War is for 5.0 22:47 < fake> *rofl* 22:47 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.138.101.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:48 < fake> no wonder -when a system needs to learn building glibc optimized all by itself, it will get damn intelligent... 22:48 < SMP> but there's always a chance that BSD might win that war - so we will have to assimilate them before 22:48 < fake> first attempts with 2.1 *g* 22:49 < SMP> ;-> 22:49 < fake> rxr: i am currently pretty unmotivated to finish that... to be honest. 22:50 < daja77> :( 22:51 < fake> maybe i do it this weekend- if i'm in the mood 22:51 < fake> nobody needs that feature, and it's surely no 2.0 showstopper 22:52 < fake> mips gives me the creeps, it will surely not be perfect for 2.0 either. 22:53 < fake> the svn-static stuff is on my list, but i first need to get openssh to compile 22:53 < fake> therefore ssl should put its damn headers somewhere where the ssh config finds them 22:53 < fake> it was all in all pretty frustrating, so i stopped there. have to look into it... some day... 23:00 < daja77> fake: btw is it rioght that you ported rock to playstation? 23:01 < fake> who said that? 23:01 < daja77> dunno exactly 23:02 < fake> no. the online request for donations for a playstation linux kit (which i simply can't effort) is extremely succesfull - as was the one for the ps2 itself 23:03 < fake> (i got one from my boss for christmas - instead of money.) 23:03 < daja77> :) 23:04 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.188.255.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 23:07 < mnemoc> lvm broke is produced by rsbac :-\ 23:08 < daja77> oh you are not protected, even when i have broken packages of yours *ggg* 23:08 < mnemoc> :) 23:09 < mnemoc> rsbac add a second EXTRAVERSION line and lvm can't handle that 23:09 < daja77> well do we really need that extraversion stuff 23:10 < mnemoc> rsbac is guilty, not extraversion patch =) 23:10 < daja77> ic 23:10 < mnemoc> ifeq ($(CONFIG_RSBAC),y) 23:10 < mnemoc> EXTRAVERSION = -rsbac 23:11 < mnemoc> endif 23:11 < mnemoc> lvm's linuxversion detector don't understand it 23:11 < fake> ---> Skipping 'mail/postfix' (postfix-2.0.15,1) because 'devel/pcre' (pcre-4.3) failed 23:11 < fake> hrmpf. 23:12 < mnemoc> am i guilty of that too? 23:12 < fake> ---> because of mnemoc. 23:12 < fake> is the next line. haha. 23:12 < mnemoc> yes, yes, yes!!! i'm the one 23:13 < daja77> sendmüll is borken too 23:13 < SMP> I HATE SUBVERSION 23:13 < daja77> ah shared files only 23:14 < fake> SMP: you could always set up a cvs <-> svn gateway .... *g* 23:14 < A-Tui> hi, how can i get in the string "name: path/to/my/file" only the path to file? i tried this: echo ${string# *} but not run 23:14 < fake> .oO( but then you'd hate both ) 23:15 < SMP> fake: at least cvs doesn't get in my way by trying to be smart 23:15 < fake> echo $string | sed -e 's,^.*: ,,' 23:15 < fake> (gives problems if there is a ':' in the path/filename) 23:15 < fake> SMP: ;) 23:15 < SMP> use | cut -d: f2- 23:16 < fake> -_- 23:16 * fake was missing in the 'cut' and 'tr' lessons 23:16 < A-Tui> it's not possible to do with an asignment of the style ${something} 23:16 < A-Tui> i'm reading at the source of pkg-remove from the old rock-1.6 23:16 < SMP> I think it is 23:17 < SMP> let me try 23:17 < SMP> (*HATE* *HATE* *HATE*) 23:17 < fake> SMP: think pink! 23:18 < A-Tui> ${string% *} return "name:" 23:20 < SMP> A-Tui: ${foo#* } should do it 23:20 * fake Tito and Tarantula - After Dark 23:20 < A-Tui> SMP: let me see 23:20 < A-Tui> yes, runs thanks SMP 23:21 < A-Tui> i forgot the last blank 23:23 < jsaw> ${string#* } 23:24 * jsaw should go to be 23:24 < jsaw> <- too stupid to read, good night, cu 23:24 < SMP> ;) 23:24 < daja77> n8 jsaw 23:24 < A-Tui> yes thanks jsaw, i don't understand very well the ${%} and the ${#} assignments 23:24 < fake> n8 jsaw 23:24 < A-Tui> bye jsaw 23:25 < jsaw> A-Tui: "Eselsbruecke": # starts to delete from the beginning, % starts at the end. 23:25 < jsaw> A-Tui: think of # starting comments 23:26 < jsaw> A-Tui: #,% shortest match, ##,%% longest match 23:26 < A-Tui> aha 23:26 < jsaw> bye bye 23:26 < A-Tui> bye and tnx 23:41 < mnemoc> nice.. lvm building again 23:43 < mnemoc> damn rsbac :( 23:46 < rxr> mnemoc: I apply the patches tomorrow morning - I need sleep now ... 23:46 < rxr> cu 23:46 < fake> n8 rxr 23:46 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 23:50 < fake> Aard_: what's in the box with the sheeps on it? 23:55 < fake> Aard_: urgh... lotus notes R5... 23:55 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Fri Sep 26 00:00:45 2003