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--- Log opened Fri Sep 26 00:00:45 2003 00:07 < Aard_> fake: no, r6 :) 00:07 < fake> r6? 00:07 < fake> it's out? 00:07 < fake> i thought that is going to be groove... 00:07 < fake> (btw, lotus notes runs fine under WINE) 00:08 < Aard_> fake: we're currently at notes 6.0.2 CF2 (after 6.0.1 CF1-3), and approaching notes 6.5 in november 00:08 < fake> Aard_: where are you working? 00:08 < Aard_> fake: I know. the client. but the designerclient and the administratorclient tend to make problems 00:08 < Aard_> zentric. https://www.zentric.de 00:09 < fake> Aard_: i am glad i didn't make any contact with that. 00:09 < fake> (i am just now looking at the cool commodore stuff on your site - makes me feel nostalgic) 00:09 < Aard_> If I'm using notes I'm motly working with the administrator or designerclient. as every notes-administrator does... 00:10 < Aard_> hm. Maybe I'll make some pictures of my commodore-hw tomorrow ;) 00:12 < fake> i have most of that stuff lying around here somewhere... 00:12 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.175.64.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:12 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 00:14 < fake> so you market lotus domino / notes solutions? 00:16 * fake was a regulat "64'er"-reader 00:18 < Aard_> fake: yes, that's one of our most important services. nearly every bank uses notes, but does not have qualified personal to manage it. 00:27 < fake> and who or what is 'chuck' ? 00:28 < fake> "Booting on XL using machine vector XL from MILO" 00:28 < fake> MILO... mips? 00:30 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.138.101.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:30 < fake> https://bwachter.lart.info/public/fundsache.jpeg 00:30 < fake> *ROFL* 00:40 < fake> https://bwachter.lart.info/public/me_kjl_1.jpg 00:40 < fake> mir gefaellt das dezente blatt im hintergrund 00:42 < Aard_> fake: `fundsache' -- ich hab da mal ne ganze schachtel voll beim aufraeumen gefunden. ging dann im sommer beim camp drauf 00:43 < Aard_> `chuck' -- zum einen meine palme, zum anderen meine alpha xl 00:45 < fake> ah, alpha. 00:45 < fake> mkay ;) 00:45 < fake> have we met on the camp? 00:48 < Aard_> fake: I don't think so. 00:48 < Aard_> I didn't even know you were there 00:49 < fake> ... then i didn't know you were there. 00:49 < fake> did you visit the rock corner ? 00:49 < Aard_> I visited esden... 00:50 < fake> in his / netrunne1's van, or in the left bsd tent? 00:51 < Aard_> in his van 00:51 < fake> hm. 00:51 < fake> then you missed the whole show ;) 00:51 < fake> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/hacking/cccamp-2003/ 00:52 < fake> there are many many more pics, but those three are specifically of us 00:54 < fake> https://bwachter.lart.info/public/stone.jpg 00:54 < fake> that's nice 01:06 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.143.251.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:24 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.175.64.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:29 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:29 < fake> hi Lorini 01:29 < Lorini> hi 01:31 < daja77> huhu Lorini 01:31 < Lorini> huhu daja! 01:31 < Lorini> why do you welcome me in here? :( 01:32 < daja77> ahem why not ... 01:32 < fake> does anyone in here have the album 'fixed water' from 'sophia' ? 01:33 < Lorini> nope.. 01:33 * fake not in the mood for filesharing crap 01:34 < Aard_> n8 01:34 < daja77> n8 Aard_ 01:34 < fake> n8 Aard_ 01:34 < Lorini> n8 01:37 < fake> hm. 01:37 < fake> caffeine or <*beep*> ? 01:37 < Lorini> beep 01:38 < Lorini> beep cant be bad.. 01:38 < Lorini> whatever beep is 01:38 < daja77> beep show 01:38 < daja77> O_o 01:38 < Lorini> isnt it peep show? 01:38 < fake> beep is \8, iirc? 01:38 < fake> echo -e '\8' 01:39 < daja77> hehe, well you know i am from saxony ... 01:39 < Lorini> saxony... 01:39 < fake> hm, i forgot 01:39 < daja77> yes, we can't speak p or t, you know 01:40 < fake> echo -ne "\a" 01:40 < fake> but \a's ascii nr. is... 01:40 < fake> 07. *sigh*. 01:40 < fake> off by one. 01:41 < fake> echo -ne "\7" 01:41 < Lorini> bahnhof 01:41 < fake> Lorini: macht piep. 01:41 < fake> oder eben beep. 01:41 < daja77> never mind, he is just sleepy 01:42 < Lorini> ok 01:42 < fake> no, not yet. 01:42 * daja77 now off 01:42 < fake> but i'm working on it ;) 01:42 < fake> n8 daja77 01:42 < Lorini> night daja 02:10 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit (Excess Flood) 02:10 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:12 * fake Within Temptation - Mother Earth 02:12 < fake> and i want to hear sophia now 02:12 < fake> damn it. 02:19 < fake> ui 02:19 < fake> ice queen 02:19 < Lorini> mh 02:19 < Lorini> nice 02:19 < fake> ack 02:20 * netrunne1 is badly ill. and was just woken up by a friend who needs a lift from fuerholzen back to munich :/ 02:20 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 02:21 < Lorini> its so cold in here 02:21 < fake> netrunner: tell him/her to leave you alone? 02:22 < fake> Lorini: strange, in here all windows(tm) should be closed. 02:22 < Lorini> my window is closed 02:22 < rolla> re 02:23 < fake> hi rolla 02:23 < Lorini> my head is hot, everything else cold as ice 02:23 < fake> Lorini: then stop thinking about... whatever you think about. 02:23 < fake> ;) 02:24 < Lorini> hehe. i am a woman, i do not think 02:24 < fake> .oO( a female macho ? ) 02:24 < netrunner> fake: cannot do, comes from moldova and is (almost) family :( 02:25 < Lorini> macho? no 02:25 * netrunner throwing in some aspirin 02:25 < fake> netrunner: poor boy :( 02:25 < Lorini> netrunner: gute besserung (whatever that is in english) 02:25 < fake> bless you? 02:25 < Lorini> really? 02:25 < fake> not sure 02:25 < fake> rolla? 02:27 < Lorini> if netrunner lives in munich (or somewhere there..) he will understand me 02:28 < netrunner> you say 'bless you' when somebody sneezes ... mabye 'get well soon' (according to leo) 02:28 < netrunner> but thank's you two :) 02:28 < fake> hm, rolla would know it ... he knows a bit german ;) 02:29 < fake> get well soon sounds like an order from my boss 02:30 * netrunner gets some rest until they calll again, cu guys! 02:31 < fake> cu! 02:31 < netrunner> hm ... if those guys at work wonder why I write my 'can't come' mail at 2:30 am? :) 02:31 < Lorini> cu netrunner 02:36 < fake> ha ha! 02:36 < fake> o_O 02:41 < rolla> fake: 02:42 < fake> rolla: what does 'gute besserung' mean in english? 02:48 < rolla> ah 02:48 < rolla> mom 02:48 < rolla> well direct translation is good improvement 02:50 < rolla> do you want me to guess at what you really want it to say in english 02:51 < fake> ah, no, it's ok. nevermind ;) thanks 02:51 < rolla> sorry 02:51 < rolla> why did you want to know? 02:52 < fake> because netrunner is ill, and we wanted to tell him to get better... 02:52 < rolla> ach so 02:52 < rolla> so you wanted to say "hope you get better" 02:52 < rolla> is netrunner american? 02:53 < fake> no, he's from around munich, too, but we wanted to follow the channel language 02:53 < rolla> I see 02:53 < fake> so "hope you get better, netrunner" 02:53 < rolla> :) 02:57 < rolla> ttyl 03:07 * fake The 69 Eyes - Gothic Girl 03:14 * fake off 03:14 < fake> n8! 03:14 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB7C32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("BitchX: its everywhere you want to be") 04:09 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.183.91.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:27 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.24.122.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:27 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.143.251.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:45 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.183.91.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:51 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:09 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.24.122.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:14 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.31.226.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:21 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.191.179.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:32 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.170.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:39 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.191.179.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:39 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.191.179.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:42 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.31.226.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:38 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.23.226.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:58 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.191.179.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:20 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.172.89.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:24 -!- veninga [veninga@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:38 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.23.226.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:48 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091977.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:09 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.10.81.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:11 -!- zepp [~Zepp@82-41-122-123.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 08:22 -!- martin_ [~martin@141.64.23.132] has joined #rocklinux 08:22 -!- zepp [~Zepp@82-41-122-123.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ("Client exiting") 08:23 < martin_> moin 08:29 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.172.89.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:43 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091977.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 08:52 < blindcoder> moin 10:20 -!- clifford_away is now known as clifford 10:21 < daja77> moin clifford & blindcoder 10:21 < blindcoder> moin clifford 10:21 < blindcoder> moin daja77 10:21 < clifford> moin 10:22 < blindcoder> does anyone of you know Arclink, Easy Archive or web@find? 10:38 -!- martin_ [~martin@141.64.23.132] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:49 < esden> moin all ... 10:49 < esden> I WANT MY FIXED CONNECTION BACK!!! 10:50 < blindcoder> moin esdi :) 10:53 < esden> blindcoder: subscribe to the lcdproc mailinglist ... that will be interesting for you ... 10:53 < blindcoder> adress? 10:53 < esden> www.lcdproc.org .. 10:54 < blindcoder> have you had a loook at that site recently? 10:54 < blindcoder> they are still in software-patent-demonstration-mode 10:55 < esden> no I have not ... but there is a link to the real site ... as on all demonstration sites ;) 10:56 < blindcoder> any special thread currently going on? 10:57 < esden> yes self built usb to parallel connection for lcd's ;) 10:57 < blindcoder> hmhm nice 10:57 * blindcoder --> lunch 10:58 < esden> with, for example, amtel microcontrollers 10:58 < esden> bon apetitt 11:00 * -> esden off again 11:00 < esden> cu guys 11:05 -!- kasc__ [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-138.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:07 -!- kasc__ is now known as kasc 11:10 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-001.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:11 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ("Ich bin doch der Liebling der Götter..") 11:33 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:33 < rxr> hi 11:34 < daja77> hi rxr 11:40 -!- martin_ [~martin@141.64.23.132] has joined #rocklinux 11:42 < rxr> moin 11:46 < martin_> hi rxr 11:46 < martin_> it's all okay? 11:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 12:02 -!- freed [~lol@rou51-23.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:02 < freed> hi all 12:02 < martin_> hi freed :-) 12:02 < freed> ah martin 12:03 < freed> heute ncih als ibook hier? 12:03 < freed> lol 12:05 < martin_> rxr: what about OpenGL support for iBooks? 12:08 < martin_> cul .... 12:08 -!- martin_ [~martin@141.64.23.132] has left #rocklinux ("bye bye") 12:23 -!- freed [~lol@rou51-23.tfh-berlin.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 12:26 -!- freed [~lol@rou51-23.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:30 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 12:31 < scythe_> hi 12:31 < scythe_> jsaw: ping 12:53 -!- freed [~lol@rou51-23.tfh-berlin.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:01 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.31.84.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:05 < christ|an> rxr: mail 13:17 < Freak> bonjour 13:18 < rxr> hi Freak christ|an 13:18 < Freak> hi rxr 13:19 * blindcoder sleepy >_< 13:20 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.10.81.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 13:20 < christ|an> hi rxr 13:24 < scythe_> Q: what shall I do if im creating a pkg, and its url is a CGI, not a .tar.bz2 or such. How can i rename it after download to conform the ROCK scripts? 13:28 < rxr> scythe_: https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/trunk/package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.desc 13:28 < scythe_> thank you 13:30 < scythe_> wait a minute, i dont see the connection... 13:31 < scythe_> im downloadin a perl script with parameters, which is a .tar.gz, i need to rename it after download. 13:31 < rxr> you want to download the file to have another filename on the disk, right ? 13:31 < scythe_> yup 13:31 < rxr> the ! is doing it 13:31 < scythe_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 13:31 < rxr> I'm just adapting the Handbook because it is not yet documented in it ... 13:32 < scythe_> i think it wasnt in PKG-DESC-FORMAT either.... 13:32 < rxr> yes - it is not. 13:32 < scythe_> (it will be package/s390/s390-tools, the boot loader) 13:32 < blindcoder> rxr: sorry for interrupting, but what do you think about making scripts/Download a bit less verbose? 13:36 < rxr> scythe_: ;-)! 13:36 < rxr> blindcoder: propose a patch and start a discussion on the ML ... 13:37 < blindcoder> rxr: okay, will resend the patch with [RFC] in subject 13:38 < rxr> scythe_: how does you download tag look now ? 13:38 < scythe_> 1 pkg 13:38 < scythe_> :-) 13:39 < rxr> could you paste the [D] line so I can make sure we boths have benn talking about the same ? 13:39 < scythe_> the [d] line in s390-tools.desc? 13:41 < rxr> yes 13:41 < rxr> scythe_: https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse55.html#x80-15200018.2.6 13:41 < rxr> ^- updated 13:41 < scythe_> [D] 3737947327 s390-tools.tar.gz !https://oss.software.ibm.com/cgi-bin/linux390/download.pl?file=s390-tools-1.2.1-june2003.tar.gz&firstrun=no 13:42 < scythe_> it's because ibm get downloaders to read the GPL license before downloading 13:42 < scythe_> that's what the firstrun=yes does 13:42 < rxr> oehm - does no work for me 13:43 < scythe_> i couldn't paste it in 9wm, i typo-ed in 13:43 < rxr> two things: 13:44 < rxr> 1. you should also use the version in the downloaded fiel (1.2.1 here) 13:44 < scythe_> 1.: ok, corrected 13:44 < rxr> 2. if the page sends a redirect or so - curl as used in the ROCK scripts - will not follow the redirect 13:44 < scythe_> 2: it did download for me 13:45 < rxr> you would need to get this redirected URL - and if you do this you'll have a non-cgi URL you could use as it for the [D] tag 13:45 < scythe_> and the currect url is with first_run=nu 13:45 < scythe_> (no) i hate tzpos 13:45 < scythe_> ahhh 13:50 < scythe_> so: there's no redirect, or cgi-less url, and it downloaded for me 2 sec ago perfectly, i just had to correct cksum 13:50 < rxr> ok 13:55 < scythe_> one more thing, how can i get this package, to be automatically selected when i choose the architecture? 13:59 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:00 < blindcoder> [R] + s390 14:01 < blindcoder> [P] X --------- 800.000 14:01 < blindcoder> something like that 14:01 < scythe_> i did things like that... 14:01 < rxr> blindcoder: huh? why the many --------- 14:01 < rxr> blindcoder: not built in any stage ? 14:02 < scythe_> btw, y there isn't a [R] + x86 in x86/intel-rng's .desc, it always downloads for me on s390... jsaw could tell me y... 14:03 -!- martin__ [~martin@141.64.23.132] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 < rxr> scythe_: do you use Download -all or Download -required ? 14:03 < scythe_> -required, with minimalist template, with - linux26* and - intel-rng 14:04 < martin__> re 14:06 < martin__> hi rxr 14:11 < scythe_> it doesnt get into config/packages even if i add X s390-tools rule... but scripts/Download -package s390-tools works... 14:12 < blindcoder> rxr: I just wanted to point out the X 14:14 < rxr> hi martin__ 14:14 < rxr> scythe_: your architecture name is s390 ? 14:15 < martin__> rxr: what about opengl support at an ibook? 14:15 < scythe_> rxr: yes, and the zSeries will be s390x, as in the kernel 14:20 < rxr> martin__: working - you need to build some packages - or wait for my binaries ... 14:37 < scythe_> rxr: do U think i should create a target/bootdisk/s390 for making IPL tapes? there's of course no cdrom in these machines... 14:38 < rxr> scythe_: sure the ROCK Linux kit should be able to create the boot/loadable images needed 14:38 < rxr> scythe_: please send the patches in tiny chunks to the list - e.g. if you finished some packages or architecture definitoins, send them in 14:38 < rxr> it is much easier to review tiny modifications insteat one big "this patch does all" mail 14:40 < scythe_> rxr: i'll send it in in separate emails to the list. B1 mail for architectures, 1 for every package... But i need more time, the builds are going extremly slow... 14:45 < scythe_> i'll be back in 2 min, i just have to umount a part... 14:45 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has left #rocklinux ("Bback") 14:55 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 14:55 < scythe_> hi again 14:55 -!- martin__ [~martin@141.64.23.132] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:03 < scythe_> rxr: we talked about different kernels and patches a time ago, which are arch dependent. 15:04 < scythe_> rxr: what if i create this kernel patch-set as a package? it should also include the current kernel version 15:09 < rxr> if there are really many patches needed this is (currently) the way to go 15:09 < rxr> se package/powerpc/linux24benh for an exmaple 15:10 < rxr> (a special Macintosh hardware support kernel which is always ahead of the vanilla tree ...) 15:11 < scythe_> rxr: i saw that, it gave me the idea ;-) Another thing, what's with OCO modules? 15:13 < scythe_> rxr: as i see now, currently there is only 1 oco relevant, the 3590 tape driver module. It is not that important, can be freely downloaded, and not GPL, but free to use and distribute. 15:15 < rxr> as long as it possible to reditribute it - use the correct [L] tag and it is ok .. 15:15 * rxr shortly away ... 15:16 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:38 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801C19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:38 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FA98.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 15:38 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:47 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B233.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:49 < martin_> re again 15:50 < mnemoc> re martin_ 16:35 < rxr> re 16:37 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091978.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:39 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < mnemoc> re rxr 16:44 < mnemoc> i'll _try_ to add comments to new .patch files i send :( 16:46 < mnemoc> samba-3.0.0 16:57 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:57 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: thanks 17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - noticed samba, too 17:03 < rxr> would you update it - or should I ? 17:04 < mnemoc> i'm patching download to try direct if not at mirror 17:04 < mnemoc> you are free to do it *G* 17:07 < scythe_> I know this will sound rediculus, but my tar is falling asleep ;-) - eg tar process in build-pkg goes into sleep and waits forever. Any clues? 17:07 < mnemoc> reboot :) 17:07 < scythe_> mnemoc: arch: s390 17:08 < rxr> scythe_: SMP also noticed this on your (?) s390 17:08 < rxr> scythe_: he worked arround by using --with-compression-program or so 17:08 < scythe_> rxr: i noticed the same at home on hercules 17:08 < rxr> could you test if this works ? 17:08 < rxr> hercules is what ? 17:08 < scythe_> emulator 17:08 < rxr> emulator for ? 17:09 < scythe_> arch - hercules is a mainframe emulator on linux x86 and win32 17:09 < scythe_> it runs deb390 perfectly. 17:09 < SMP> hi 17:09 < scythe_> hi SMP 17:10 < rxr> so you notice the same problem when running ROCK Linux builds for x390 inside this jhercules ? 17:10 < rxr> hi SMP 17:10 < SMP> scythe_: I wanted to mail you because of this, but I though you'd figure it out on your own ;) 17:10 < scythe_> rxr: yes, and on the same version of debian 17:10 < scythe_> SMP: i did... 17:10 < SMP> good 17:10 < rxr> scythe_: please try variations like --with-compression-program=bzip2 17:11 < SMP> no no 17:11 < scythe_> SMP: and tar with all the same parameters works perfectly by hand 17:11 < rxr> or bunzip2 -c file | tar ? 17:11 < SMP> no, --with-compress-program is what is broken 17:11 < scythe_> i dont see what is the problem with the script (?), or maybe a buggy version of tar in debian? 17:11 < rxr> this is definetely a bug inside something of this debian 17:12 < scythe_> --with-compress-program works in a shell 17:12 < rxr> scythe_: yes buggy tar, libc or kernel 17:12 < scythe_> i think it's not the kernel. maybe libbz2-dev ? 17:12 < SMP> no. 17:12 < scythe_> or libbz2 i mean. 17:12 < scythe_> then? 17:13 < SMP> bzip2 does not use libbz2 17:13 < scythe_> i didn't know that. 17:13 < SMP> same as rsync doesn't use librsync ;) 17:14 < scythe_> what shall i do? change tar? 17:15 < SMP> no, modify Build-Pkg to use the short option (maybe 'y') instead of "--use-compress-program=bzip2" 17:15 < scythe_> ok 17:15 < SMP> the short one worked for me in a shell, the long one not 17:16 < scythe_> the long one worked for in a shell 17:16 < SMP> can you try the short one in a shell if you haven't yet? 17:16 < scythe_> i can, but th long worked for me too 17:16 < SMP> I don't have a working /usr/bin/ssh at the moment ;-) otherwise I'd take a look myself 17:18 < SMP> the way opensc installes its PAM stuff is completely broken - and that stupid /lib/*.a > /usr/lib/ sh*t only makes it worse 17:19 < scythe_> SMP: it worked prefectly with the long opt in a shell. besides, it could compres a .gz into a .bz2 and it is using the same --use-compress-program parameter.... 17:20 < SMP> I know for sure that I managed to create a hung tar myself. it's even in the irclog ;) 17:21 < scythe_> it looks like it hangs only in the build script, not in the shell. Using the same parameters works in a shell 17:21 < scythe_> Any suggestions? 17:22 < scythe_> I think this is not an architecture dependent problem, or is it... 17:24 < SMP> I'll be on apollo as soon as I won the fight with libtool for a working ssh binary 17:25 < netrunner> wow, my vim suddenly has .desc highlighting :) 17:25 < scythe_> U should use the make lightning_gun and kill the main_boss with -9 ;) 17:25 < scythe_> .... i mean for SMP.... 17:28 < netrunner> argl, shouldnt submit patches while having fever ... was already on the list :( 17:29 < netrunner> SMP: that apollo is parisc? 17:30 < scythe_> netrunner: s390, but u should tell if tar hangs on a parisc too... 17:31 < scythe_> netrunner: u thought on a pa710-715 or such? that was codenamed apollo 17:32 < rxr> netrunner: I added hppa hppa64 - but currently it fails to cross-compile 17:33 < rxr> netrunner: do you have the hppa box permanetly ? 17:33 < netrunner> scythe_: I have a hp B132L here which is parisc ... bought a dvi->vga adapter only to discover that this isn't a dvi out but evc :/ 17:33 < netrunner> rxr: yes. but yet not connected (fever/wrong adapter) 17:35 < netrunner> I discovered that hp is still updating the support site for that box, so must be something really expensive or cool :) 17:35 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:35 < scythe_> netrunner: i have access to a codenamed apollo hppa, and i installed deb on it. But it's only 50 mhz and works only in framebuffer mode in 1280x1024.... 17:35 < rxr> netrunner: bought - or a free for development ? 17:37 < netrunner> rxr: it's mine, ok? :) 17:37 < netrunner> rxr: I can do whatever I want with it, and that is certainly putting rock on it at some point. 17:39 < scythe_> netrunner: what is currently on it, hpux? 17:40 < netrunner> scythe_: yes. ... I must admit I haven't booted it yet, made no sense to me without monitor connected. first I have to get the right adapter 17:40 < scythe_> do u have a serial console? i think it shall work on it too... 17:41 < netrunner> scythe_: it has a serial port, yes. 17:42 < scythe_> netrunner: i meant do u have a console? a vt100 from dev for example... 17:43 < netrunner> scythe_: you mean local? I didn't power it on yet. 17:44 < scythe_> netrunner: i mean do u have a hardware console, a terminal a monitor like thingie with a keyboard plugged in it a serial cable out of it.... :-)) 17:45 < netrunner> scythe_: ah ... no. I always did this with a serial cable and minicom. 17:45 < scythe_> netrunner: that should work the same 17:45 < netrunner> scythe_: if it gives a console to serial by default ... 17:45 < scythe_> netrunner: if u've got luck, the firmware on the hppa will respond after ipling on the serial port too... 17:47 < scythe_> netrunner: the hpux can do that, but it will not be configured like that by default, but the firmware (bios) may respond, and u can give a tftp server to download a bootimage of linux - theoritically.... 17:47 < netrunner> scythe_: I'll try when I feel better. maybe I'll also find the right adapter for that evc thing. 17:48 * netrunner back to bed, head feels like beaten by a baseball bat :( 17:49 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-be-2-1-dialup-13.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:51 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-be-2-1-dialup-13.freesurf.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 17:56 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB7A80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:56 < fake> hi 17:57 < Lorini> hi 17:59 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD95069B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:02 < scythe_> rxr: there's a hercules pkg, and clifford is its maintainer 18:07 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E229.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:14 < mnemoc> rxr: svn corrupted 18:14 < mnemoc> svn: Berkeley DB error 18:14 < mnemoc> svn: Berkeley DB error while beginning Berkeley DB transaction for filesystem /home/svn/rock-linux/db: 18:14 < mnemoc> DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery 18:15 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 18:15 < rxr> mnemoc: fixed 18:17 < fake> huh? 18:17 < rxr> fake: yes ? 18:26 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B233.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:27 < fake> database errir _! 18:27 < fake> error ?! 18:30 < rxr> this was only a locking problem - the database was locked .... 18:30 < rxr> but subversion sees a locked db as error ... 18:34 < scythe_> can i disable pkgs and targets on a arch? 18:36 < rxr> not targets - but packages 18:36 < rxr> what do you want to disable ? 18:36 < scythe_> rxr: most of graphic packages will not compile 18:37 < scythe_> rxr: no vga card... 18:37 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux () 18:37 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 18:37 < scythe_> rxr: and drock will not have sense on this arch... 18:37 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508026BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 < rxr> scythe_: this does not matter it is a valid target 18:39 < rxr> scythe_: aeh? this is not the ROCK way 18:39 < scythe_> rxr: true, but nobody will try to compile it ;-) 18:39 < rxr> first the packages will (most probably) compile 18:40 < scythe_> rxr: the only xserver u can use is Xvnc 18:40 < mnemoc> [R] - s360 18:40 < rxr> second: one might want to run some fat simluation on such a big box and visulize stuff with gtk or qt 18:41 < rxr> the [R] tag is to flag whether a package will compile and so on - not if it is useful 18:41 < scythe_> rxr: i am currently using vnc on the big box - the problems are the other window managers 18:41 < rxr> you can recommend to use a server target for s390 or soem special package selection template 18:41 < scythe_> rxr: i've got no problems with standard x over tcp 18:42 < rxr> or ssh -X 18:42 < scythe_> that works too 18:42 < scythe_> i just dont think compiling packages that u can never use are sane 18:42 < rxr> or one might want to do DTP or CAD on such a memory intensive box ... 18:42 < scythe_> for example u can never use gpm on s390, but debian gives it as default 18:42 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508022EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:43 < scythe_> - no, the cpu is tooooo slow for that 18:43 < scythe_> but see framebuffer or vga or gpm or serial tools 18:43 < scythe_> u cant use any of those 18:44 < rxr> the only valid pkg for [R] - s390 I see so far is gpm 18:44 < scythe_> i dont know what packages do u have - i just saw all this in debian390 - i am still laughing 18:45 < mnemoc> remote access to s390 can have almost everything 18:45 < scythe_> no offense, just we should not make the same problem with mc for example 18:45 < scythe_> mnemoc: it good for remote, nothing for local 18:46 < mnemoc> but if you want it for remote you need it installed locally :) 18:46 < scythe_> u've got only a dump emulation, line mode terminal with a tape device for that... 18:47 < scythe_> the linux install for 390 does the same thing in the local part: setup networking 18:47 < rxr> scythe_: what is with mc ? 18:47 < scythe_> all of them (suse, redhat, debian does this) 18:47 < scythe_> midnight commander - like nc on DOS or FAR on Win32 18:48 < rxr> yes - but what is the problem with s390 ? 18:48 < scythe_> it's a must have file manager 18:48 < scythe_> u don't have an mc pkg? 18:48 < rxr> yes - we have 18:48 < rxr> 18:45 < scythe_> no offense, just we should not make the same problem with mc 18:48 < rxr> for example 18:48 < scythe_> than start using it ;-) 18:48 < rxr> ^- what did you wanted to say with it 18:48 < scythe_> oh, u mean that: 18:48 * rxr uses mc occationally ... 18:49 * scythe_ should shut up... 18:49 < scythe_> so: deb compiles all of the pkgs with the same config on all arch. 18:49 < scythe_> they compiled mc with gpm support on 390 18:49 < scythe_> when u simply start mc on a deb390 it seg faults 18:50 < rxr> ah I see ... (I hate gpm support in mc anyway ...) 18:50 < mnemoc> <rxr> the only valid pkg for [R] - s390 I see so far is gpm 18:50 < scythe_> u have to use -d to disable gpm support 18:50 < scythe_> i hate gpm at all 18:50 < rxr> anyway scythe_ if you want to narrow the package selection on s390 use a package selection template named s390 or so 18:51 < scythe_> mnemoc: all XFREE-s are valid for R - too, except Xvnc 18:51 < rxr> only flag pacakge with [R] - s390 if the package really does not compile 18:51 < rxr> scythe_: then you could not build the X applications since they need the X header files ... 18:51 < scythe_> rxr: the headers shoud be in a different pkg, no? 18:51 < mnemoc> if you don't _like_ a package in an arch do a template 18:52 < rxr> (maybe we should / could seperate the xfree86 pacakge into xfree86 and xfree86-header xfree86-libs and xfree86-bin ... 18:52 < mnemoc> nooooooooooooooooo..... =( 18:52 < scythe_> i like X, just no Xserver will compile without a graphic card (save Xvnc) 18:53 < rxr> but for ssh -X you need xauth - wich leaves you with all xfree packages (if we split them) or the whole xfree86 package (if we do not split it) 18:53 < rxr> vnc is not part of xfree86 - it is a seperate package ... 18:54 < mnemoc> rxr: better that multi package can be 'named regexp' support for filtering what is installed 18:54 < scythe_> ok, i'll not flag anything without testing if it compiles, i give my word :-) 18:54 < scythe_> i know, it just the only xserver that works on tihs arch. 18:56 < scythe_> speaking of flags, why isn't intel-rng [R] + x86? 19:00 < rxr> doen't now - it seems to compile on other arches too - it just takes random number out of the kernel and analyses them - and put's them back 19:01 < rxr> there might be other arches with built-in rng support in the next time - and the thing get's renamed s/intel-/linux-/ ;-) ? 19:01 < scythe_> it just compiles, or works too? 19:01 < scythe_> i'll test it on this box... 19:01 < rxr> it guess it will also work if you have a hardware-number-gernation char-device on the box - but most have not ... 19:04 < scythe_> like /dev/random and /dev/urandom? 19:08 < mnemoc> wow.. samba3.0.0 builds without modification of pkg config =) 19:39 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9E39798.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:59 -!- christ|an [~christian@pD95300AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:02 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:02 < frikkalikka> knock knock!! 20:03 < frikkalikka> having still some troubles installing ROCK 20:04 < frikkalikka> why can't scripts/Build-Target find /usr/bin/mktemp ? 20:06 < mnemoc> linuxver scripts gets confused when there are more than one ^EXTRAVERSION line, and patches like rsbac add a second making the sc 20:06 < mnemoc> oops 20:06 < mnemoc> frikkalikka: what do you think you are trying to do with that line? 20:08 < frikkalikka> ??? 20:09 < frikkalikka> mnemoc: what do u mean? 20:09 < mnemoc> <frikkalikka> why can't scripts/Build-Target find /usr/bin/mktemp ? <--- what is that? 20:09 < frikkalikka> mmmm 20:09 < frikkalikka> a question mark 20:09 < mnemoc> o_O 20:09 < mnemoc> scripts/Build-Target find /usr/bin/mktemp <--- that 20:10 < frikkalikka> maybe you code it differently 20:10 < frikkalikka> i just see a question mark 20:10 < mnemoc> what do you want to do 20:10 < frikkalikka> ooooh 20:11 < frikkalikka> i want to cross install rock 20:11 < frikkalikka> but the scripts/Build-Target stop executing immediately 20:11 < mnemoc> Build-Target is for compiling a config not for installing 20:12 < mnemoc> that line is NOT valid 20:12 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Build-Target [ -cfg <config> ] [ -job stage-package ] 20:12 < frikkalikka> yeah but i have to build before installing 20:12 < mnemoc> thats the only things you can do with that script 20:13 < mnemoc> of course you have to build but you can't with that line 20:13 < frikkalikka> mmmm 20:13 < frikkalikka> maybe i've understood 20:13 < frikkalikka> the misunderstanding 20:13 < mnemoc> first create a config: ./scripts/Config [ -cfg <config_name> ] 20:14 < frikkalikka> this is what i write on the keyboard 20:14 < mnemoc> if you don't give a config_name, it's named 'default' 20:14 * mnemoc waiting.... 20:14 < frikkalikka> $/scripts/Build-Target 20:15 < frikkalikka> and the output is 20:15 < frikkalikka> Paranoia Check: mktemp not found or too old 20:15 < mnemoc> you *need* to run Config first, and it is ./scripts not /scripts 20:15 < frikkalikka> i've run it 20:15 < mnemoc> ok 20:16 < frikkalikka> **** /Config and /Download 20:16 < mnemoc> you need to update your mktemp first 20:16 < frikkalikka> but i don't think it's too old 20:16 < mnemoc> but it is 20:17 < frikkalikka> ok 20:17 < frikkalikka> trying uploading 20:17 < frikkalikka> .... 20:17 * frikkalikka is away: I'm busy 20:17 < mnemoc> # mktemp -V 20:17 < mnemoc> mktemp version 1.5 20:18 < mnemoc> if you 'Download' you have last mktemp tarball at ./download/base/mktemp/mktemp-1.5.tar.bz2 20:19 < frikkalikka> :) 20:19 < mnemoc> so untar it and make all install 20:20 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA935F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < frikkalikka> i think i've misused /Dowload 20:23 < frikkalikka> some tar.bz2 files haven't been downloaded 20:23 < frikkalikka> i.e. mktemp 20:24 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Download -package mktemp 20:24 < frikkalikka> when i type -required 20:24 < mnemoc> -required depends of your config 20:24 < frikkalikka> where does the script go to read the list 20:24 < frikkalikka> ? 20:24 < frikkalikka> which file? 20:24 < mnemoc> config/<config_name>/packages 20:25 < mnemoc> ^X are downloaded, ^O not 20:25 < frikkalikka> ok 20:25 < frikkalikka> tnx 20:25 < mnemoc> np 20:27 < mnemoc> Robert Palmer dies??? =\ 20:32 < Freak> just heard that, too 20:54 < tcr> moin all 20:58 -!- LocalHero [~chatzilla@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 20:58 < LocalHero> Hi all 21:00 < mnemoc> moin tcr, LocalHero 21:01 < frikkalikka> ;) now it's working :) 21:02 < frikkalikka> my Build-Target and my stomach with a pizza inside 21:02 < frikkalikka> :P 21:06 < rxr> hi LocalHero 21:06 < rxr> hi tcr 21:06 < LocalHero> rxr, hi. Whazzup? 21:08 < rxr> oh - all well 21:08 < rxr> and on your side ? 21:09 < LocalHero> rxr, im fine, i have had 3 very hard weeks in school and now finaly its weekend and i have nothing to do :) 21:13 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091978.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:14 < tcr> hi mnemoc, rxr and LocalHero 21:14 < LocalHero> tcr, hi :) 21:15 < tcr> Delphi respectively Kylix seems to suck big ass 21:15 < rxr> LocalHero: hehe - so you want to continue the iso site prettify-ing ? 21:15 < rxr> tcr: hehe ;-) 21:15 < rxr> today's changelog is huge 21:15 < tcr> an IDE (or whatever delphi is called) should not get into the way of the programmer 21:15 < LocalHero> rxr,, well now when im finaly are free. Well, why not :) 21:16 < rxr> LocalHero: ;-) only if it is fun for you - it is not that urgent ;-) 21:16 < tcr> What's the fucking reason for _forcing_ me to use the mouse every 5 seconds? 21:16 < tcr> if I just do changes on the source code, the fucking programm ain't able to keep track on my changes 21:21 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.9.235.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:22 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe the pending extraversion patch can be written in such a way that duplicate EXTRAVER lines are prevented? This way we do not need the lvm patch ? 21:23 < LocalHero> rxr, I do think its fun :) 21:26 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:36 * fake drinking wine with owl ;) 21:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:39 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.31.84.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:42 < mnemoc> rxr: i don't know how to do that with sed :( 21:43 -!- Lur [~bob@ool-4351d2d3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < Lur> hi 21:44 < Lur> how do i format my rh9 hd 21:44 < mnemoc> fake: i have an extression, the first match has to be rewritten but the rest shall be removed. do you know how to do that with sed? 21:45 < mnemoc> s/extression/expression/ 21:45 < Lur> hi 21:45 < mnemoc> hi Lur 21:45 < Lur> how do i format my rh9 hd 21:45 < fake> mnemoc: brackets and referencing them with \1 ? 21:46 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M291P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:46 < nookie> gnah, damn isp 21:46 < tcr> Lur: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/discs/discX 21:46 < Lur> wow 21:46 < Lur> big command 21:46 < Lur> i want nothing left on it 21:46 < Lur> DEAD 21:46 < Lur> that will do it 21:47 < fake> Lur: c:\dos\format.exe 21:47 < Lur> im puttin 98 from a 8 gig hd to that 21:47 < Lur> um 21:47 < fake> ;) 21:47 < Lur> im talkin linux ere 21:47 < tcr> Why, what are you gonna do anyway 21:47 < Lur> put 98 on that hd (4 gig) and slack on the 8 gig 21:47 < Lur> im gettin a hand me down p2 21:48 < Lur> ill tourcher 98 on such a small amount of space 21:48 < tcr> And why do you want the data to be overwritten? 21:48 < fake> 98 should fit into < 300 MB 21:48 < Lur> oh 21:48 < Lur> well i wanna kill that hd 21:49 < fake> then burn it 21:49 < fake> or give it to a woman 21:49 < Lur> hmm an idea 21:49 < fake> *eg* 21:49 < tcr> or use an magnet 21:49 < Lur> ya i was gonna 21:49 < scythe_> shot it i tell you, shot it! 21:49 < fake> or two! 21:49 < Lur> but then i found out that will render it useless 21:50 < Lur> i need it to live another few years 21:51 * fake joins #slackware to ask them 21:51 < Lur> any idea 21:52 < scythe_> rather call 1-800-MICROSOFT 21:52 < Lur> AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1-800-MICROSOFT 21:52 < Lur> NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 21:52 < Lur> i was banned from a windows channel 21:52 < scythe_> 98's fdisk tool can delete unknown partitions. use it 21:52 < Lur> lol 21:53 < Lur> i might 21:53 -!- owl_ [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:53 < Lur> i just put a staple gun to a floppy 21:53 * fake wonders wether Lur i aware of what rocklinux is 21:53 < fake> is* 21:53 < Lur> nope 21:53 < Lur> no idea 21:53 < Lur> i like rock 21:53 < Lur> and i like linux 21:53 < scythe_> it's flintstone's distrib 21:53 < fake> .me begs for mercy 21:54 < scythe_> (the guys at #imp told me, i liked it) 21:54 -!- Lur [~bob@ool-4351d2d3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit () 21:54 * fake 3v1l 21:55 * scythe_ was beginning to enjoy this... 21:55 * owl_ will forward some calls fo lusers to scythe_ 21:55 < fake> hehe 21:55 < scythe_> thx owl 21:56 < fake> call for lusers? that's like a call for papers in the joint-routing protocol? 21:56 < owl_> *cough* calls from/by/whatever lusers... 21:57 < scythe_> "how can i install win31 onto a sparc?" 21:59 < LocalHero> scythe_ try dosbox.. dosbox.sourceforge.net 21:59 < fake> i could write a rolling rock article: how to install red hat 9 21:59 < rxr> mnemoc: there is a good book sed & awk 22:00 < scythe_> localhero: will dosbox work on non x86? - i am really interested in cross arch things 22:00 < owl_> *g* in a course there is a "how to use a mouse"... 22:00 < LocalHero> scythe_, hmm, i dont know if its a real emulator or just a fix thing, take a look at their homepage :) 22:00 < scythe_> localhero: i am running vmware on 2000, linux x86 in vmware, hercules in that linux and linux 390 in that hercules 22:01 < LocalHero> scythe_, hehe, sounds interesting :) 22:01 * SMP wonders what Aerosmith were thinking when they sung ``I love you 'cause your deuces are wild, girl´´ 22:01 < scythe_> localhero: and pose (!!!) is working in that hercules, finally i got the speed of a pda... 22:01 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:02 < LocalHero> scythe_, LOL 22:02 < fake> SMP: s/deuces/juices/ 22:02 < scythe_> localhero: yup, this is really useful ;-) 22:03 < SMP> fake: not really ;) 22:03 < LocalHero> scythe_, Sometimes you wounder. I played civilization 1 some days ago on my duron 1200mhz computer, i almost got the right framerate :)... Then you remember that when you played civ 1 the last time the computer was a 486 and the fps where actually higher. then you start to think about what good the evolution has brought us 22:04 < scythe_> localhero: civ3 ;-(((( 22:04 < scythe_> localhero: and freeciv :-)))) 22:06 < LocalHero> scythe_, freeciv is nice, we are actually playing one day turns right now. Very funny, it takes a while to get out of stoneage. I think that civ1 is the best thugh. I love it when a building is built on the screen. And there are no palace building thing in freeciv 22:08 < scythe_> localhero: i am playing medieval: total war nowdays. i like it almost i liked street rod... 22:18 < SMP> scythe_: any news on the tar prob.? 22:19 < scythe_> SMP: nope, i have other problems with the corporate proxy, sorry... 22:19 < scythe_> SMP: but i'll be on it as soon as i can 22:20 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M318P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 < SMP> scythe_: I didn't mean to push - take your time whenever you want 22:21 < scythe_> SMP: it's not pushing, i am getting fustrated about this tar ;-) 22:21 < SMP> anyone here know 'Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman-Something Stupid' - is it a Cha-Cha? ;) 22:21 * rxr fixing emacs for ppc .... 22:22 < tcr> I'm gonna sleep. gn8 all 22:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA935F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 22:27 < LocalHero> hmm, how can you do a division in bash and get the result like a float instead of an int? 22:27 < rxr> maybe not at all (just a guess) 22:28 < LocalHero> rxr,, hehe oki :) 22:29 < scythe_> rxr: usbutils would be R - 390 along with gpm, ok? 22:29 < scythe_> rxr: (i mean later...) 22:29 < rxr> hm - they do not compile ? 22:30 < scythe_> may they do - for what can u use them? 22:30 < LocalHero> Wow, my backup script realy rocks :) 22:31 < LocalHero> Im proud. I thought that i should learn bash so i started to make a backup script for server backups. Now its realy nice :) 22:31 < rxr> scythe_: I thought you did not wanted to disable compiling packages 22:32 < rxr> please create a s390 package selection template with the packages you want to disable - the R tag is for not compileable 22:32 < scythe_> rxr: ok, just telling about another useless package on the arch... 22:32 * rxr wonderland is just the matrix 22:33 < rxr> ok ok 22:33 < scythe_> rxr: as soon as i get on with f*cking tar 22:33 < rxr> ^- Ten without P 22:35 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M291P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:37 < scythe_> enough for today... be back as soon as possible 22:37 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has left #rocklinux () 22:43 < LocalHero> Got to go, cya all 22:44 -!- LocalHero [~chatzilla@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.34 [Mozilla rv:1.5a/20030718]") 22:45 * SMP using /usr/src/rock-src-1.5.20-stefanp .. scary 22:53 < SMP> hehe 22:54 < SMP> )$ ( echo from ; echo Arch ) | grep -Ff- /var/adm/packages/00-dirtree 22:54 < SMP> ROCK Linux Version and Architecture: 1.5.20-stefanp ia32 22:54 < SMP> Build [1] at 09/26/2002 from 04:48:15 to 04:48:15 CEST 22:54 < SMP> exactly one year old 22:59 < rxr> ou: 22:59 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 500 users 4505672 Apr 7 22:56 samba-2.2.8a.tar.bz2 22:59 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 500 users 9848974 Sep 26 2003 samba-3.0.0.tar.bz2 23:01 < rxr> and ooops2: the clock on the rs6k was not set :-( 23:01 < rxr> fixed 23:05 -!- johnp [icechat@213-0-136-221.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 < rxr> hi johnp 23:07 < daja77> re 23:08 < rxr> hi daja77 23:08 < daja77> hi rxr :) 23:09 < johnp> just looking - never seen this linux before 23:11 * fake brb 23:11 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB7A80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] Beavis & Butthead use BitchX. Huh-huh huh-huh huh-huh he said "Bitch".") 23:12 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:12 < fake> re *g* 23:12 < owl_> fake: *kick* 23:13 < fake> harf, now my leg hurts 23:13 -!- johnp [icechat@213-0-136-221.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has left #rocklinux () 23:14 < daja77> just a short glance i guess 23:26 -!- cd [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:26 -!- cd is now known as A-Tui 23:29 < rxr> jsaw_: I think you schedule GNOME 2.4 for post 2.0.0-rc2 ? 23:30 < daja77> rc2? 23:30 < rxr> yes, what is wrong with it ? 23:30 < daja77> nothing err counter decreased to 29 this morning 23:30 < Lorini> MAOAM 23:31 < Lorini> ui, sorry 23:31 < daja77> Lorini: haha! 23:31 < rxr> daja77: error counter of what exaclty ? 23:31 < daja77> broken packages 23:32 < owl_> .oO(is rpm one of them?) 23:32 < SMP> stupid xemacs d/l takes ages ... I want to go ... 23:32 < daja77> think so, but that doesn't bother me much 23:33 < jsaw_> rxr: I can send GNOME 2.4, but the build order is definitely broken. 23:33 < rxr> daja77: well - I thought this - which target ? 23:33 < owl_> hrm. k. thx... 8at least it failed here with current head ... some minutes ago. *sigh* 23:33 < daja77> generic 23:33 < rxr> jsaw_: does each package build when executed seperately ? 23:33 < daja77> owl_: but openbox fails ... 23:35 < jsaw_> rxr: around 150 of 161 are building fine 23:35 < owl_> daja77: duno. i'm even not subscribed to RLML anymore 23:35 < SMP> *1*6*1* ?! 23:36 < daja77> hmm but there is still an owl repo ... 23:36 * fake playing with nas 23:36 < owl_> not my business 23:37 < owl_> the fixes i sent once weren't applied... (and they wortekd) so. why should i spend any fruther time on this? 23:37 < SMP> rxr: are you really serious with package/gnome2/svn* ? 23:38 < daja77> owl_: do you really expect an anwser for that 23:38 < rxr> owl_: wow - disabling the NLS parts - a really _nice_ "fix" 23:38 < owl_> at least it works. 23:38 * SMP bbl 23:38 < owl_> but - as mentioned above - not my business anymore 23:39 < daja77> works not this is broken 23:39 < rxr> SMP: nope it should not be there ... 23:40 < owl_> ... 23:40 < daja77> owl_: you have a strange definition of "works" 23:40 < owl_> ... 23:40 < rxr> oh - cool - maybe I fixed x86_64 compilation a bit ... 23:40 < daja77> cool 23:43 < rxr> ok - me off reading a bit 23:44 < daja77> have fun 23:48 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:49 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:51 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:53 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sat Sep 27 00:00:03 2003