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--- Log opened Sat Sep 27 00:00:03 2003 00:01 < nookie_> Good Night. 00:10 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M318P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 00:17 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-055.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:29 -!- gila [~gila@cc16711-a.delfz1.gr.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 01:33 < fake> re 01:50 < fake> *sigh* 02:03 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.9.235.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:03 < jsaw_> what's wrong fake? 02:03 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 02:25 < fake> hm... 02:26 < fake> it's friday night and i'm in front of my pc working... 02:26 < fake> what could be wrong? 02:28 < jsaw> *condoled sigh* 02:33 < fake> thanks - i think i'll just try to get some rest 02:33 < fake> up since 7:00 - after 2.5 hrs of sleep 02:33 < fake> running around whole day -_- 02:34 < Lorini> hehe 02:34 < jsaw> me 2, still got the flu -> so really should be in bed... 02:34 < Lorini> good night 02:34 < jsaw> cu fake , cu Lorini 02:34 < Lorini> cu jsaw 03:13 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:18 * fake Eisregen - Zeit zu spielen 03:37 < fake> tststs 03:38 < fake> tsssss 03:38 < fake> zzzzz.... 03:48 * fake gets some sleep 03:48 < fake> n8. 08:29 < [anders]> moin... and afk.. 09:34 -!- johnp [icechat@213-0-199-45.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:35 -!- johnp [icechat@213-0-199-45.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has quit (Client Quit) 09:56 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 09:56 < scythe_> mornin' 10:00 -!- johnp [icechat@213-0-199-118.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:07 < rxr> moin scythe_ 10:08 * scythe_ is recompiling tar while drinkin' coffee 10:39 -!- johnp [icechat@213-0-199-118.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:42 < scythe_> (ncompress's cksum is not valid, the url of usbutils changed...) 11:04 < daja77> moin 11:04 < scythe_> hi 11:11 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-138.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:17 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-197.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:20 < Lorini> moin moin moin 11:21 < daja77> huhu Lorini 11:22 < Lorini> huhu daja 11:24 < rxr> jsaw: gnome2 should then be removed? 11:26 < jsaw> re 11:26 < jsaw> rxr: well, yes, I think we can remove it. 11:27 < jsaw> I compiled with "- gnome2", and none of the pkgs outside gnome24 failed. 11:30 < rxr> jsaw: do you want me to add it now - or after -rc2? 11:32 < jsaw> rxr: hard to tell. To sort the gnome24 stuff, I need a fresh dep_db. But a reference build will take some time... and finally resorting will take some more time. 11:32 < jsaw> maybe first rc2 is easier. 11:33 < daja77> rxr: do you tag this today? 11:34 -!- ram [~ram@195.252.80.153] has joined #rocklinux 11:34 -!- ram is now known as rammi 11:34 < rammi> hi! 11:35 < jsaw> hello 11:37 -!- rammi [~ram@195.252.80.153] has quit (Client Quit) 11:39 * jsaw goes to DRF open-day (air show) with his daughter in a few minutes 11:39 < daja77> have fun 11:41 < jsaw> she's so funny... one her most often used words is 'schrauber' ('copter') 11:41 < jsaw> and runs to the balcony whenever one is passing by 11:42 < daja77> :) 11:42 < jsaw> (me lives nearby a hospital, so...) 11:42 * daja77 did too 11:42 < rxr> jsaw: much fun - and greating to your wife and dougther ... ;-) 11:42 < jsaw> thanks! 11:42 * rxr lives near a airport - but it is only used rarely and closed last year ;-) 11:42 < daja77> hehe 11:42 < rxr> an ariport even ... 11:43 < rxr> erm - next year 11:43 < jsaw> I just say "flightgear" 11:43 * daja77 lives at the B95 with trucks and stuff ... 11:43 < rxr> I'm not yet fully awake ... 11:43 < jsaw> :) 11:44 < jsaw> daja77: ever flew with a heli 11:44 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.0.0-rc2-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert: 11:44 < rxr> 760 builds total, 102 completed fine, 0 with errors. 11:44 < daja77> nope 11:44 < rxr> daja77: I'll tag -rc2 tomorrow night - I guess 11:45 < daja77> rxr: if you tag today i could start a new generic build with it 11:45 < rxr> we need a new rockplug first 11:45 < daja77> ah k. 11:45 < daja77> kde fixed? 11:45 < rxr> and maybe cliff has a new mine until then 11:45 < rxr> daja77: what is / was broken in KDE 11:45 < rxr> (ah I need to update koffice ...) 11:45 * rxr showering ... 11:45 < daja77> kdeadmin and kdeartwork 11:46 < rxr> hm - in what way? 11:46 < jsaw> cu you tonight 11:47 < scythe_> bye jsaw 11:47 < daja77> there was a build error with kuser 11:47 < jsaw> rxr: maybe you find some time to do isapnp before I'm back... then we can discuss and finish the overall layout finally. 11:48 < jsaw> rxr: anyway, we do it tonight and tomorrow night... in whatever order 11:48 < jsaw> <-- off now 11:49 < daja77> cu jsaw 11:51 < rxr> cu jsaw 11:52 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-060.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:52 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091ab2.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:18 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9EB70D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:43 < scythe_> rxr: good news, the recompiled tar works 12:52 < rxr> scythe_: good 12:57 < scythe_> now find(?) hangs... 13:22 < scythe_> i've got 5 unkillabla find processes now... it hangs in stat D - "uninterruptable, probably waiting for IO" 13:26 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has left #rocklinux ("have to reipl") 13:38 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 13:38 < scythe_> re 13:41 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.137.101.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:14 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has left #rocklinux ("goin home, cu") 14:23 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M271P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 < th> hi 15:05 < th> is python still broken in rc1+fixes? 15:05 < th> at least i can't make it compile 15:08 < th> (revision 1518) 15:15 < netrunne1> kasc/paragui does not build (doesn't find python2.3/Python.h) -> patch created and scheduled for rebuild. 15:15 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 15:16 < netrunner> th: python compiles ... what's the problem? 15:16 < th> so i'm doing something wrong 15:17 < netrunner> == 03:50:55 =[5]=> Building base/python [2.3 2.0.0-rc2]. 15:17 < netrunner> == 09/27/03 03:53:38 =[5]=> Finished building package python. 15:18 < th> aehm 15:18 < th> that's the trunc 15:18 < th> i'm trying to compile rc1+fixes 15:18 < th> should i bette switch to the trunc? 15:19 < netrunner> I am at 1501 ... what is your problem with python? 15:21 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.172.60.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:25 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.44.31.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:28 -!- [n00b]Wib [wibra@D577C5AD.kabel.telenet.be] has quit () 15:30 < th> netrunner: it did not compile 15:30 < th> netrunner: i'm afraid i've no output 15:30 < th> (any more) 15:30 < th> it told me: 15:31 < th> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: python: command not found 15:38 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F42D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:38 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801C19.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 15:39 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:39 < netrunner> th: the ?-python.err file would be really helpful in this case, maybe you retry building python? 15:40 < th> of course i will 15:40 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.137.101.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:40 < th> with revision 1518 again 15:41 < th> and there are the xfree86 problems again 15:41 < th> perhaps unsync mirrors.. 15:41 < th> checking leo 15:42 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.172.60.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:42 < th> yea that seems to be the problem. there is a mangl.tar.bz2 at leo.org but Download tries to get a mangl.tar.Z 15:43 < th> can you confirm this? 15:46 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.44.31.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 15:51 < th> ftp.nluug.nl has .Z files too 15:51 < th> but .bz2 files too 15:51 < th> hmm 15:52 < th> is there a way to make ./scripts/Download download these bz2 files instead of the .Z? 15:54 < th> ok. i changed the mirror and got the files 15:57 < netrunner> th: I use mirror none most of the time, since after a svn up the latest files are not yet on the mirrors. 15:58 < th> i liked the cvs up more cause it did implicitly what svn status does 16:00 < th> ok... activating some space for local mirroring... 16:00 < th> lvcreate -- logical volume "/dev/vg00/lv03" successfully created 16:04 < th> netrunner: ahh my xfree download problem is on the ML already 16:05 < th> and fixed 16:39 < fake> mornin' 16:44 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:53 < rxr> re 16:53 < th> hi rxr 16:53 < mnemoc> moin RL community 16:54 < rxr> moin mnemoc ;-) 16:54 < mnemoc> :) 16:54 * rxr is going to order a new scanner now 16:55 < rxr> will be the 4th scanner on my desk 16:55 < rxr> and I already gave one to my father ... 16:55 < mnemoc> why do u need 4 scanners? 16:55 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/oss/avision/ 16:55 < rxr> this one is payed by a bank in .ve ... 16:56 < mnemoc> so you need a fourth different model 16:58 < th> rxr: do you remember the patch clifford sent to fix the problem of downloading mangl.Z instead of mangl.bz2 from a mirror? 17:01 < th> rxr: did you apply it to trunc only? 17:02 < th> s/trunc/trunk/ 17:05 < SMP> hi folks 17:06 < rxr> th: yes it is applied to trunk - what do you mean with "only" ? 17:06 < rxr> hi SMP 17:06 * netrunner discovers a huge discrepancy between his dirty trunk and the clean trunk :) 17:07 < th> rxr: i checked out rc1+fixes. is it in there too? 17:07 < th> hi SMP 17:07 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - the ADF unit just hangs up - where my code works fine for all the other scanner models and ADF (automatic-document-feeder) units ... 17:07 < rxr> mnemoc: the bank has > 200 of this scanners and so they want the problem fixed ... 17:07 < rxr> th: nope -rc1 is weeks in the past - trunk is much much much more recent 17:08 < rxr> I scheduled to tag -rc2 sunday night 17:08 < rxr> but IIRC the problem with .Z files is not present in -rc1 ... 17:09 < rxr> we got .Z support past -rc1 ... 17:13 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 17:14 < christian_> Where am i able to find the mysql libs in D-Rock beta 6? (mysqlclient) 17:18 < th> rxr: the problem is present in head of tag "2.0.0-rc1+fixes" 17:18 < th> rxr: i thought development is on that tag 17:21 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit ("https://irssi.org/scripts/scripts/quitmsg.pl") 17:22 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 17:43 < rxr> aehm - tag (usually) is a static label 17:44 < rxr> the development is normally done in trunk 17:44 < rxr> and brachnes - with a special aim might be done in branches 17:44 < th> rxr: well. i don't know subversion but. cvs tags where branchable 17:45 < th> ok. so there is no "feature-freeze"-branch 17:45 < th> i thought 2.0.0-rc1+fixes would be a branch to reach rc2 17:46 < owl_> moin 17:46 < th> rxr: so i should really switch to trunk for testing 17:46 < th> hi owl 17:46 < owl_> hi th 17:46 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.54.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:49 < rxr> th yes 17:49 < rxr> trunk for testing 17:49 < rxr> in CVS tags are static 17:50 < rxr> of course you could reset them many times 17:50 < rxr> in SVN branches and tags are just cheap copies - and so can be totally dynamic 17:51 < rxr> so if we would have more man-power (err ok and woman) we could branch a week before the release into tags/$ver or branch/$ver - to apply last minute changes 17:51 < owl_> https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,267530,00.html << omfg 17:51 < rxr> but since we are a bit limitted I prefer to finalize inside trunk and just to one static label 17:53 < th> rxr: ok. 17:55 < daja77> https://www.kajoshaj.com/images/screens/slackware-with-ie.png 17:58 < netrunner> this crappy kdebase is now building over an hour. 18:00 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E247.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:01 < Lorini> reee 18:04 < mnemoc> re Lorini 18:07 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M277P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:07 -!- mistik1_ [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-13-1-dialup-180.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 18:09 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD95069B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:10 < fake> hi Lorini 18:17 < Lorini> hi mnemoc, fake 18:20 -!- owl_ is now known as owl 18:21 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:21 -!- mistik1_ is now known as mistik1 18:21 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M271P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:27 < owl> .oO(god, am i stoned or what?) 18:27 < mnemoc> ? 18:28 < owl> mnemoc: i'm having a "speaking and laughing all the day"-flash today... 18:29 < mnemoc> ic 18:32 < owl> wtf is "kde-support"? 18:33 < owl> or what is it needed for? or isn't it existent anymore or or or 18:33 < owl> ? 18:34 < owl> *headshake* *confused* 18:36 < owl> *hypf* 18:38 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508024C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:49 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508026BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:00 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091ab2.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:01 -!- ChickenBoy [~michi@pD9E3300C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 < ChickenBoy> Hi! Got a bootdisk problem... 19:02 * netrunne1 not. 19:02 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 19:02 < ChickenBoy> Though I haven't SCSI, Linuy sais that it can't mount the root vfs 19:02 < ChickenBoy> or was it root fs 19:02 < ChickenBoy> ? 19:02 < netrunner> ChickenBoy: do you boot from cd or disk? 19:03 < ChickenBoy> from floppy 19:03 < ChickenBoy> 2.0-rc1 19:03 < netrunner> ugh ... never tried that one :) 19:03 < ChickenBoy> k, I'll try other images 19:04 < netrunner> ChickenBoy: how old are your bootdisks? how far does he get? 19:06 < ChickenBoy> There aren't any errors while loading the disks into the ramdisk, but some seconds after the kernel booted, it gives me that root error and says that I have to change the boot parameters. I did so, edited the batch file, but it doesn't change anything. 19:08 < netrunner> hm .. unfortunately I have no floppy drives here, so I cannot reproduce this. do you have a chance to boot from hd or cd? 19:09 < ChickenBoy> My system can boot from CD but doesn't want to take the 2.0-rc1 generic ISO Image 19:10 < rxr> ChickenBoy: how old is the system that it does not want to boot the cd ? 19:10 < daja77> burn error? 19:10 < netrunner> hi daja77,rxr :) 19:10 < daja77> hi netrunner :) 19:10 < ChickenBoy> daja: The filesystem on the CD seems to be ok. 19:11 < ChickenBoy> rxr: It's the ALDI System from December 2001, if ya no what I mean ^^ 19:11 < ChickenBoy> rxr: It can boot from CD 19:11 < daja77> aldi pc with scsi? 19:12 < ChickenBoy> daja: k, you don't know it ^^ It's mainstream: P4, 256MB SDRAM, 80 GB HDD, no SCSI!!! <- It's mainstream ;-) 19:13 < rxr> -rc1 or -beta6 19:13 < ChickenBoy> rxr: rc1 19:13 < rxr> ChickenBoy: do you have DSL or similar and could test if the -beta6 CD1 boots on your box ? 19:14 < ChickenBoy> I'll try the desktop bootdisks from the FTP server. I'll be back soon. 19:14 -!- comrad_ [~imac@dsl-213-023-051-159.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:14 < comrad_> hossa! 19:14 < ChickenBoy> Yeah, I got DSL 19:14 < daja77> moin comrad_ 19:14 < comrad_> moin daja77 19:14 < Lorini> hi comrad.. 19:14 < daja77> :) 19:14 < ChickenBoy> rxr: But I'll test the new images first 19:14 < comrad_> wohooo a chickenboy around! 19:14 < comrad_> hi lorinigirl 19:14 -!- ChickenBoy [~michi@pD9E3300C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 19:15 < comrad_> i came to buy lorini from you, daja77 19:15 < daja77> O_o 19:15 < daja77> i get rich ... 19:15 < comrad_> here is your zucchini as we concluded 19:15 * rxr wondering what's going on here ... 19:15 * daja77 too 19:16 < rxr> christian_: "But I'll test the new images first" <- what do you mean? 19:16 < daja77> he quitted 19:16 * comrad_ passes the zucchini to daja77 19:16 < daja77> he saidf that he'll grab desktop isos and will try with them 19:16 < daja77> nah not that cheap 19:17 < daja77> btw rofl, p4 256mb ram, what a crap config 19:17 < comrad_> why crao? 19:17 < comrad_> why crap? 19:18 < daja77> not enough ram for such a machine 19:18 < comrad_> damn it 19:21 < daja77> well aldi, 'nuff said 19:23 < netrunner> aldi sells a nice tv on monday ... 19:23 < daja77> define nice 19:24 < netrunner> looked good to me. 159 EUR, 55cm diag, and the usual stuff. 19:25 < daja77> hmm 19:25 < netrunner> just to be curious, what is paragui for? (I just fixed it, but still wonder what for :) 19:26 < rxr> [T] ParaGUI is a cross-platform high-level application framework and GUI 19:26 < rxr> [T] (graphical user interface) library. It can be compiled on various 19:26 < rxr> [T] platforms (Linux, Win32, BeOS, MacOS, ...) 19:30 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9E39798.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:31 < netrunner> rxr: ah :) 19:37 < netrunner> paragui patch commited. for whoever needs it :) 19:37 < fake> hm 19:38 < fake> can anyone give me a hint why this table is not 100% high?? 19:38 < fake> www.f4k3.net 19:38 < fake> i think i'll loose my remaining sanity soon 19:42 < fake> argh 19:42 < fake> a table inside a <center> never gets hihger than it needs? 19:42 < fake> gecko is bizarre 19:46 < netrunner> fake: isn't center deprecated anyway? 19:48 < fake> netrunner: i think center is one of te first tags i used ;) 19:48 -!- comrad_ [~imac@dsl-213-023-051-159.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 19:50 < netrunner> fake: Dieses Element ist jedoch als deprecated eingestuft. Es ist mittlerweile eigentlich überflüssig und sollte nur noch in begründeten Ausnahmefällen (z.B. Abwärtskompatibilität zu Netscape 1.1) benutzt werden. 19:50 < netrunner> fake: (from selfhtml.teamone.de) 19:51 < fake> i c 19:51 < fake> thanks, good to know ;) 19:51 < netrunner> I guess nowadays one uses <div align="center"> ... but that doesn't help (jsut tried) 19:51 < fake> html is frontend work... nothing i care about usually... ;) 19:54 < netrunner> fake: that align= thing is also deprecated as I just read ... you use css for that ;) 19:54 < netrunner> fake: why would you want to make a table 100% height? 19:54 < fake> netrunner: for adaptive alignment 19:57 -!- ChickenBoy [~michi@pD9E3300C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 -!- ChickenBoy is now known as troubleshooter 19:58 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M277P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 19:58 < owl> omfg. chicken is coming... *cough* 19:59 < troubleshooter> I took the floppy images from the rocklinux ftp server (2.0-rc1/desktop) and I get the following error msg: "kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k bmfmt-247c, errorno=8" 19:59 < troubleshooter> What's wrong? 20:03 < netrunner> fake: add style="height:100%" to the table tag. 20:03 < netrunner> troubleshooter: he stops after that message= 20:03 < netrunner> ? 20:04 < troubleshooter> netrunner: No, he repeats the message again and again 20:04 < fake> binfmt-247c ? 20:04 < troubleshooter> netrunner: and stops continuing the start the kernel 20:04 < fake> or bmfmt-247c ? 20:04 < troubleshooter> there is a typo in bmfmt, but I don't know where. 20:05 < troubleshooter> I can't read my note :-( 20:05 < fake> binftm is much more likely, though i don't know which bin format that would be 20:05 < fake> binfmt * 20:06 < owl> *rofl* "handschrift - nein, hieroglyphen" 20:06 * fake compiling crosscompiler for symbian phones... hopefully 20:06 < troubleshooter> owl: yeah, you're right ^^ 20:07 * owl is starring at fake with opened mouth and is completely shocked now 20:07 < troubleshooter> Am I allowed to talk in German or is this an "English only" channel? ^^ 20:07 < troubleshooter> s/an/s 20:07 < troubleshooter> s/an/a 20:08 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-mu-13-1-dialup-180.freesurf.ch] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20:08 < owl> normally engl. only 20:08 < troubleshooter> owl: k 20:09 < troubleshooter> Has anyone tried the floppy bootdisks? And if so, which version works? 20:09 < owl> <-- now finally off for having dinner and so. bye 20:09 < troubleshooter> Lass es dir schmecken, owl ^^ 20:10 < owl> thx ;) (und nein, ich futtere keine haehnchen... ) 20:10 < owl> [detached] 20:10 * fake never used bootdisks in a floppy-like manifestation 20:12 * troubleshooter just wants to install RockLinux 20:13 < troubleshooter> Does every ISO Image has a "Bootsektor"? 20:13 < troubleshooter> I mean the RockLinux ISO Images 20:14 < troubleshooter> I downloaded a "generic" image 20:14 < rxr> the CD1 normally is bootable 20:14 < rxr> which imags did you download and wha hardware are you using? 20:17 < troubleshooter> rxr: I downloaded the 2.0-rc1 generic image and I'm using a P4X1800Mhz with 256MB SDRAM, A CD-RW, DVD and a 80 GB HD. 20:17 < troubleshooter> rxr: Usually, the BIOS boots from CDs 20:17 < rxr> troubleshooter: are you the one who was here an hour ago ? 20:17 < troubleshooter> rxr: I put in the MS Windows XP CD some minutes ago and it worked 20:18 -!- troubleshooter is now known as ChickenBoy 20:18 < ChickenBoy> rxr: Yes, I am 20:18 < rxr> ah ok 20:18 < rxr> could you do me two favours ? 20:18 < ChickenBoy> rxr: But I think that my other nick fits better 20:18 -!- ChickenBoy is now known as troubleshooter 20:18 < netrunner> ah, startrek generations :) 20:19 < fake> where? 20:19 < netrunner> sat1 20:19 < rxr> troubleshooter: could you download desktop/drock-2.0.0-rc1-rev1165-x86-pentium-mmx-cd1.iso 20:19 < rxr> and see if this one boots on your system? 20:19 -!- cd [~Aitor@42.Red-80-24-236.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 < rxr> and if this also fails test: 20:20 < netrunner> fake: did you try the style trick for your table? 20:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-beta6/desktop/drock-2.0.0-beta6-rev625-ppc_cd1.iso 20:20 < troubleshooter> rxr: Yes, I'll download that desktop Image 20:20 < rxr> this would be a big help 20:20 < fake> netrunner: no 20:20 < troubleshooter> rxr: But PPC? 20:20 < rxr> someone a few days ago mentioned after -beta6 the ISO stopped to be bootable for him# 20:20 < troubleshooter> rxr: I got a i386 20:20 < fake> netrunner: it's just a temp down site. 20:20 < troubleshooter> rxr: x86 I mean 20:20 < rxr> troubleshooter: oh - sorry wrong cut'n paste 20:21 < netrunner> fake: it works on mozilla. 20:21 < rxr> drock-2.0.0-beta6-rev625-x86_cd1.iso 20:21 < rxr> so if something after -beta6 made the ISOs incompatible for some BIOSes I need to track this down ... :-( 20:22 < fake> netrunner: ok, the i'll stop using align and center ;) 20:22 < rxr> WoW: 332.17 GB this months on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de 20:22 < troubleshooter> rxr: Is that thing pre-compiled? 20:22 < rxr> ohem - yes this fat ISO images are precompiled 20:23 < troubleshooter> rxr: But I want to let it be compiled by my system... 20:23 -!- cd [~Aitor@42.Red-80-24-236.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:23 < troubleshooter> rxr: That's why I want to get RockLinux 20:24 * fake off 20:24 < fake> cya 20:24 < troubleshooter> cya 20:24 < rxr> troubleshooter: ah ok - you could compile ROCK on any distribution - but most are that crippled that you will get some minor problems here and there (broken bash, sed, tar or gcc ....) 20:24 < netrunner> troubleshooter: do you have a running system that meets the prerequisites for building rock? then you don't need bootdisks. 20:24 < rxr> troubleshooter: mom 20:24 < troubleshooter> cya@fake I mean ^^ 20:25 < troubleshooter> I got a LFS system next to me 20:25 < troubleshooter> Do I need to reboot if I want to install RockLinux or can I chroot? 20:25 < netrunner> troubleshooter: you basically need devfs and recent versions of the tools rxr mentioned. 20:25 < rxr> troubleshooter: we have a Handbook at: 20:25 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/ 20:25 < rxr> it should be of help to get an overview and how to build it ... 20:26 < troubleshooter> rxr: k, time to RTFM ^^ 20:26 -!- troubleshooter is now known as trouble[away] 20:27 < rxr> there is also a link to the handbook on the ROCK Linux homepage - so it should be easy to find 20:28 -!- ram_ [~ram@195.252.80.38] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 -!- cd [~Aitor@42.Red-80-24-236.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 -!- ram_ is now known as rammi 20:36 -!- cd [~Aitor@42.Red-80-24-236.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:38 -!- trouble[away] [~michi@pD9E3300C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:40 < rxr> ANNOUNCE: svn.rocklinux-consulting.de 20:40 < rxr> to be used as: https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/ 20:40 < rxr> the old one is still up for the next months as transition periond 20:41 < rxr> the read-only mirror will be renamed svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de soon 20:42 -!- christ|an [~christian@p508393A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < rxr> hi christ|an 20:44 < christ|an> hi rxr 20:44 < christ|an> :) 20:44 < christ|an> how are you? 20:47 -!- rammi [~ram@195.252.80.38] has quit ("leaving") 20:52 < Lorini> good night! 21:03 < netrunner> note to self: next time you disable that time consuming kde stuff please. 21:04 < jsaw_> re 21:04 < jsaw_> netrunner: hehe 21:05 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 21:05 < rxr> hi jsaw 21:05 < rxr> your doughter enjoyed the copters ? 21:06 < jsaw> she was a bit confused... too many people, too many stuff to look at... 21:08 < jsaw> she was speaking the whole evening about, though 21:09 < rxr> ;-) *g* 21:11 < rxr> jsaw: I think SMP wanted to express that it did not compile for him ... 21:12 < rxr> (gnucash) 21:12 < jsaw> yeah. I just can't remember that it failed here. Probably it did... 21:31 < jsaw> ich liebe es geradezu lebensformen auszumachen... 21:37 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-zh-21-2-dialup-211.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:38 < netrunner> jsaw: you killer :) 21:41 < mnemoc> rxr: what is the svn command to change repo.? 21:43 < rxr> svn switch ? 21:45 < mnemoc> yes... that... thanks ;) 21:46 < mnemoc> does the new site support svn://? 21:49 < jsaw> nc1701d *boom* 21:49 < jsaw> i still love this scene... 21:51 < rxr> mnemoc: you mean svn.rocklinux-consulting.de ? 21:51 < mnemoc> yep 21:51 < rxr> yes - it is the same server - just a nice name for the sercice 21:51 < rxr> service even 21:51 < rxr> also https:// and svn:// urls are the same now ... 21:51 < mnemoc> ic 21:51 < rxr> but the old one will still exist for some months ... 21:52 < rxr> you can use switch --relocate - it is the same server so no need for a complex merge ... 21:53 < mnemoc> :-\ i'll use it when switching my two other copies of the trunk... the first already started :( 21:55 < rxr> you are the first users - feel free to report bugs 21:56 < rxr> I'll announce it officially when gsmp.tfh-berlin.de got switched to the new subversion this night - and is available under the name svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de ... 22:02 < rxr> 760 builds total, 259 completed fine, 1 with errors. 22:02 < rxr> might someone want to fix bsd-games? 22:02 -!- link_ [~link_@pop-zh-21-2-dialup-211.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:06 -!- ringo78 [ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 22:13 < rxr> hm - cool QSC does not seem to reconnect my DSL line anymore 22:13 < rxr> how pleasant 22:18 < netrunner> rxr: so you're offline? 22:20 < rxr> nah - you see me here, don't you? 22:21 < rxr> they do just seem to disabled the foreced reconntect every now and then ... 22:25 < netrunner> rxr: but the reconnect comes from your side, no? so they block your login? 22:26 < rxr> I just wanted to mention that I'm happy that they do not seem to to some forced reconnects every now and then 22:27 < rxr> everything is working perfectly - and I have the same IP address for weeks (which is good for the services running on the line ...) 22:30 < netrunner> rxr: ah, they disabled the forced _dis_connect 8) 22:32 < rxr> well re or dis ... 22:38 -!- acasha [shd-sw@ALimoges-102-1-1-223.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 22:43 < rxr> hi acasha 22:50 < Freak> test 1 2 3 22:52 < rxr> pong 1 2 3 22:52 < rxr> yes - currently it is that silent here .-( 22:53 < mnemoc> because i _fear_ to ask about extraversion pathc ;) 22:53 < mnemoc> and download patch 22:58 < rxr> I hate massive updates 22:58 < rxr> yes ;-) They will be reviewed .. 22:59 -!- christ|an [~christian@p508393A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:59 < mnemoc> geoege did it... he is guilty, not me o:) 23:00 < rxr> nope - I ment my server - I just rm -f two files I need ... 23:00 -!- christ|an [~christian@p508393A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:01 < mnemoc> bad thing :( 23:01 < rxr> yes 23:05 < netrunner> this is the point where the raid stops helping. /me already thinks about how to implement incremental backup at home. 23:05 < rxr> I need to subversion my homepage sites 23:05 < rxr> does someone accidently has gsmp.tfh-berlin.de or gsmp.tf- 23:05 < rxr> h-berlin.de/gsmp in the browser cache ? 23:05 < jsaw> my cold still drags me down, so: cat me > /dev/bed 23:05 < jsaw> rxr: try google 23:05 < jsaw> cu guys 23:08 < mnemoc> n8 jsaw 23:09 < rxr> cu jsaw 23:11 < rxr> I need to create more backups ... 23:11 < mnemoc> https://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:jybrs6jh3FYJ:gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/gsmp+site:gsmp.tfh-berlin.de+gsmp&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 23:12 < mnemoc> google is a goood friend :) 23:13 < rxr> thaks - but I still have that file 23:13 < rxr> I only miss /index-new.html and /gsmp/index-new.html 23:13 < rxr> ... 23:14 < rxr> could you get those out of google ? I failed ... :-( 23:14 < mnemoc> https://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:jybrs6jh3FYJ:gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/gsmp/index-new.html+site:gsmp.tfh-berlin.de+rene&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 23:15 < mnemoc> querystring is your friend too :) 23:15 < rxr> I tried to modify it - but it did not worked out ... 23:15 -!- acasha [shd-sw@ALimoges-102-1-1-223.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit () 23:20 < rxr> mnemoc: have you tried the link above ? 23:20 < rxr> doesn't work here 23:23 < mnemoc> worked the first time :( 23:23 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB046.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 < mnemoc> jybrs6jh3FYJ <--- this seems to be the 'url' :( 23:24 < mnemoc> damn google :( 23:26 < rxr> jups 23:36 < rxr> .oO my httpd is seg-faulting - that is not that good ... 23:38 < mnemoc> you are having a *great* day rxr o_O 23:38 < rxr> yeah ... 23:39 < rxr> hm - could be due to the mod_svn got overwritten during apache running (of course svn was disabled - just the mod_svn not ... 23:39 < rxr> ) 23:39 < rxr> hm - apache log file got > 80 MB already ... 23:41 < mnemoc> tcr: different checksum for same version? /me hates that 23:42 < mnemoc> i didn't notice that because of the download patch that tries mirrors first :-| 23:44 < tcr> mnemoc, I guess they're having a "make dist" target which caused the new cksum 23:46 < tcr> As I don't really care, I don't feel like running diff -Ru against the old and the new version :) 23:46 < mnemoc> :) 23:47 < mnemoc> but we should prefer mirrored tar's checksum or add a -something to new one 23:47 < rxr> mnemoc: what are you both discussing ? 23:48 < mnemoc> read ML ;) 23:48 < mnemoc> dbh-1.0.15 changed the checksum 23:49 < rxr> always diff them 23:49 < mnemoc> brb --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 00:00:21 2003