--- Log opened Sun Sep 28 00:00:21 2003
00:01 < tcr> rxr: (lol) diffing them reveals that the only difference is an update from '%define release 1' to '%define release 2' in the .spec file (rpm "crap")
00:02 < rxr> nice people - maybe you coudl rant to them - that such post release updates are crap and irritating for security reasons .... ?!?!?!
00:05 < tcr> made a note
00:06 < tcr> will report it anytime soon
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00:47 < rxr> damn bdb*
00:47 < rxr> fluff
00:58 < Freak> http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL260/1464065/2791859/34027317.jpg
00:58 < Freak> http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL260/1464065/2791859/34027312.jpg
00:58 < Freak> http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL260/1464065/2791859/34027307.jpg
01:02 < rxr> ...
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01:22 < christ|an> rehi :)
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02:09 < daja77> re
02:10 < rxr> hi
02:10 < daja77> hi rxr :)
02:10 < daja77> have i missed sth today?
02:11 < daja77> wow 97 new mails on ml
02:11 < mnemoc> hi 
02:13 < daja77> hi mnemoc :)
02:13 * daja77 digging through ml
02:13 < mnemoc> hard job :)
02:14 < daja77> guess creating all that mail was harder :)
02:18 < daja77> btw when reading rxr writing about pr, guess i gained a new tester (victim) today
02:19 < rxr> hm?
02:20 < daja77> a friend who wants linux instead of windows
02:20 < rxr> hm - what is the connection to reading my writings ?
02:21 < daja77> you wrote sth to jvc about creating pr by convincing some ppl
02:21 < Freak> =)
02:21 < Freak> DAJA!!
02:21 < Freak> hi.
02:22 < daja77> erh hi Freak 
02:22 < Freak> ^_^
02:23 < daja77> :)
02:24 < daja77> rxr: wtf, win xp destroyed a nic?
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02:28 * daja77 is impressed about that huge changeset of today
02:28 < daja77> thx for that much work :)
02:29 < A-Tui> hola
02:30 * daja77 puzzled by christ|an 
02:30 < daja77> hi A-Tui 
02:33 < A-Tui> hola daja77
02:34 < daja77> mm would rev 1522 be a ggod rev to start a new build or are more important changes coming this night
02:34 < daja77> oh damn my typos
02:39 < rxr> nope - now I go to bed
02:39 < rxr> the rev should be mostly ok #
02:39 < daja77> good night rxr 
02:39 < rxr> but most patchs on the list (except gnome2 and a new rockplug will make it into the tree before -rc2 ...
02:40 < rxr> nah - not yet
02:40 < rxr> need to fix a apache problem first ...
02:40 < daja77> :)
02:41 * daja77 feeling a bit strange bein away so much time these days
02:43 < A-Tui> i installed a minimal target from a cd in a machine, but it can't update sources tree
02:44 < daja77> guess i need the night to download gnome 2.4
02:49 < rxr> there are days where I hate apache
02:49 < rxr> daja77: I do not apply the gnome24 patch yet
02:50 < daja77> ah k. well some downloading is in progress atm :)
02:51 * daja77 liked that gnome screenshot with ie on it :)
02:52 * mnemoc hates patches directly sent to rxr
02:52 < daja77> lol
02:53 < mnemoc> not lol, conflicts =(
02:53 * daja77 goes to bed now
02:54 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 
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02:56 < martman> do redhat guis work with rock? i mean is it the same layout so there wont be anyproblems?
02:57 < martman> anyone live?
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03:11 < rxr> ????
03:11 < rxr> yes we are alive
03:11 < rxr> but some people seem to hurry a bit ...
03:18 < mnemoc> he will not live too much
03:22 < rxr> n8 all
03:24 < A-Tui> it's now posible to update a 1.6 rock source?
03:24 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
03:25 < mnemoc> A-Tui: may be you should checkout rock2.0 and update from there
03:25 < mnemoc> bbl ;)
03:25 < A-Tui> mnemoc: i'm building 2.0 now
03:26 < A-Tui> but i have an old machine with 1.6
03:26 < A-Tui> and i want to update the ext-config files
03:27 < th> A-Tui: talking of drock-1.6?
03:27 < A-Tui> th mmm no a generic one
03:27 < th> there was no generic one
03:28 < th> only a 1.6.0-pre3
03:28 < A-Tui> yes that
03:28 < A-Tui> ROCK Linux 1.6.0pre3
03:28 < A-Tui> from VERSION
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03:32 < rolla> re
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04:58 < fake> hm
04:58 < fake> gevening;
05:15 < fake> *snor*
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08:21 < christ|an> godd morning
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09:09 < netrunner> paragui-python23.patch sent upstream.
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09:16 < link_> how can i pause a script a few seconds ?
09:19 < blindcoder> ^Z
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09:28 < netrunner> he now paused his irc client :)
09:46 < blindcoder> hmm... I have to remember this LART :)
09:46 < blindcoder> anyway, --> breakfast
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10:46 < rxr> 3re
10:51 < christ|an> godd moring rxr
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10:54 < rxr> moin christ|an 
10:55 < nookie> hi christ|an, rxr 
10:58 < christ|an> hi n0
10:59 < christ|an> hi nookie 
11:06 < Lorini> moin
11:07 < blindcoder> *yawn*
11:07 < blindcoder> moin all
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11:07 < th> morning
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11:18 < rxr> moin th
11:20 < rxr> Linux 2.6.0-test6
11:22 < th> hmm?
11:22 < rxr> released this night
11:23 < th> i disable linux26 stuff in my target
11:23 < th> i don't see a reason
11:23 < th> but a bit more important
11:23 < th> i sent you some mail
11:24 < th> about failures
11:24 < rxr> the line above was a general announcement not directed to you ...
11:24 < th> i see ;-)
11:24 < rxr> I think it is important that we test ROCK with 2.6 - and have the possibility to seelct one of the two kernel - depending on what the users needs for his environment
11:25 < th> ok. yes.
11:27 < rxr> fuer samba gibt es schon eine patch auf der RL liste
11:27 < th> ahjo
11:27 < th> cool
11:27 < th> koennte ich mal testen
11:29 < rxr> before I get into the patch-apply cycle I'm off getting rolls ...
11:29 < rxr> cu
11:29 < th> rolls
11:29 < th> hmm
11:29 < nookie> bye rxr 
11:31 < nookie> gtg
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12:02 * blindcoder --> lunch (sushi :)
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12:13 < v1r422> hi dennis
12:16 < dennis> hey v1r422 
12:25 < rxr> re
12:32 < ringo78> hi rxr :)
12:41 < rxr> hi ringo78 
12:49 < v1r422> dennis, how you doing?
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13:02 < martin__> hello all
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13:18 < th> moin SMP 
13:19 < SMP> hi th. back with ROCK?
13:19 < th> SMP: ack
13:19 < SMP> good ;)
13:19 < th> SMP: 4 fast machines building and building 
13:19 < daja77> moin
13:20 < SMP> th: at FHG? ;)
13:20 < th> SMP: interested in 5-xfsprogs.err?
13:20 < th> SMP: ack
13:20 * daja77 at fhg too
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13:22 < SMP> th: url? or mailto?
13:23 < th> SMP: mailto
13:23 < SMP> send it to any one of my addresses ;)
13:31 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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15:17 < praenti> hi
15:17 < daja77> hi praenti 
15:17 < mnemoc> rxr: i disagree the change of checksum of dbh... we must respect the files on mirrors or rename the file
15:18 < rxr> the file on the mirror will be propagated with the new content ...
15:18 < mnemoc> the file is already at the mirrors
15:18 < mnemoc> did you remove it?
15:18 < rxr> yes - my master is just fetching the new one - and the file will be updated on the mirrors ...
15:19 < mnemoc> ok :-\
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15:29 < mnemoc> btw, hi daja, rxr and praenti :)
15:30 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
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15:44 < th> /away
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16:13 < vectrax> hi
16:25 < christ|an> hi
16:25 < christ|an> has D-ROCK a jabber client on board? :) 
16:26 < christ|an> http://www.rocklinux.net/search/search.cgi?words=jabber+client gave me 404 error
16:27 < daja77> look into package list
16:28 < christ|an> yeah daja... i will view 1000 packages
16:28 < praenti> i have look if we have one. but a package named jabber is not present
16:29 < christ|an> yeah i have already checked that too..
16:29 < praenti> christ|an: can you give me some names of some jabber clients? perhaps we have one of them
16:29 < christ|an> and the search function gave me an error
16:29 < christ|an> well i have heared, that licq supports the jabber net. and gaim too.
16:30 < christ|an> these programmes are avaiable.
16:30 < praenti> ok. licq and gaim are in drock. perhaps one of these two has a jabber impelementation
16:31 < praenti> as i can remember, we have a package which can do jabber
16:31 < praenti> but i dont know the name at the moment
16:31 < christ|an> yeah licq and gaim :) 
16:32 < praenti> also kopete could be a candidate
16:33 < praenti> as i can see licq has no native support for jabber... and i dont know any plugin
16:33 < christ|an> at the moment i try to find out how i am able to use jabber :) 
16:33 < christ|an> oh okay.
16:33 < praenti> i would try gaim (this one is gnome based) and kopete (kde based)
16:34 < christ|an> alt + F2 = kopete 
16:34 < christ|an> result: nothing. only a process called "kopete" starts
16:36 < praenti> do you have kde up?
16:36 < praenti> i lokked just a minute ago, if both can do jabber. answer yes :-))
16:36 < christ|an> of course
16:36 < praenti> so can also use gaim
16:36 < praenti> ...you...
16:37 < praenti> thats strange. kopete should work without problems...
16:37 < praenti> have you an icon on the left of the clock?
16:38 < christ|an> left of the clock? :) 
16:38 < praenti> when kopete is running?
16:38 < praenti> yes
16:38 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$ kopete
16:38 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$
16:38 < praenti> i dont know if you see a window when you start kopete directly
16:38 < christ|an> and nothing happens  :)
16:38 < praenti> can you do a kopete --version?
16:39 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$ kopete --version
16:39 < christ|an> Qt: 3.1.2
16:39 < christ|an> KDE: 3.1.2
16:39 < christ|an> Kopete: 0.6.2
16:39 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$
16:39 < praenti> should work correctly...
16:40 < christ|an> :) oh rock ... :)
16:40 < praenti> is the shell the same user as your x-server?
16:40 < christ|an> yeah :) 
16:40 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$ pwd
16:40 < christ|an> /home/christian
16:40 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$
16:41 < praenti> normally you should see a window like this on http://kopete.kde.org/
16:42 < praenti> what does ps say if you start kopete. do youhave a kopete process running?
16:43 < christ|an> yes
16:43 < christ|an> i have a process running named kopete
16:43 < christ|an> strange
16:43 < praenti> kann you do a killall -9 kopete
16:44 < praenti> s/kann/can
16:44 < praenti> i hate typos
16:44 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$ pwd
16:44 < christ|an> /home/christian
16:44 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$ killall -9 kopete
16:44 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$
16:44 < praenti> now look if your process is died
16:44 < praenti> and try it a second time
16:45 < christ|an> bash-2.05b$ kopete
16:45 < christ|an> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
16:45 < christ|an> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
16:45 < praenti> have you a window now?
16:45 < christ|an> hmmm nothing happens
16:45 < praenti> hmm
16:45 < christ|an> only 2 new processes are generated
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16:54 < praenti> ok. i must go now. cu
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17:18 < SMP> christ|an: psi is much better than kopete in my opinion
17:19 < christ|an> SMP: hehe but it is not installed :) 
17:20 < SMP> you can always Build-Pkg it ...
17:20 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg :)
17:26 < christ|an> hmmm :) 
17:28 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg is better than Build-Pkg when using 'by hand'
17:32 < mnemoc> backups config, downloads files, etc....
18:02 < rxr> and it has a -dry-run options since a week
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18:27 < v1r422> hi, i have problems with the cron-daily used 81-scrollkeeper script
18:28 < v1r422> i says that "file * does not validate against file *"
18:29 < v1r422> has someone an idea ?
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18:34 < johnjj> question: in my drock2.0.0rc1 - the file 80-gconf has zero size - is this normal ?
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18:40 < fake> johnjj: no, known bug, fixed.
18:40 < fake> (iirc)
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18:40 < johnjj> hi, fake 
18:40 < johnjj> where ?
18:41 < johnjj> maybe its the reason for my error with scrollkeeper
18:42 < johnjj> where is the fix ?
18:44 < fake> in the source tree ;)
18:46 < johnjj> ? - i look at the mailinglist at a message pf rene, but not getting it 
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18:58 < johnjj> ok - got gconf running, but 81-scrollkeeper still warns with  ... does not validate against ....
18:59 < fake> that's ok, iirc
18:59 < johnjj> so, sorry - what is iirc ?????
19:00 < fake> if i remeber correctly
19:00 < johnjj> ok - but i cant start gnome2 !
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19:01 < johnjj> ihmo gnome stays and falls with his gconf-registries
19:19 < johnjj> found the error - all directories under /etc/opt/gnome2/gconf/ have wrong permissions - weird !
19:20 < johnjj> cu 
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19:41 < th> re
19:41 < daja77> wb th
19:42 < th> 5-auctex.err, 5-metamail.err rxr, hast du die schon angeguckt?
19:42 < th> oh
19:42 < th> should stick to english
19:42 < daja77> me?
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19:43 < th> daja77: no
19:43 < daja77> :)
19:43 < tcr> moin all
19:43 < daja77> moin tcr
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19:57 < th> can i switch url of checked out svn repository?
19:57 < th> for example switch from http url to svn url?
19:57 < th> (without checking all out again)
19:57 < fake> svn switch
19:57 < fake> ?
19:57 < th>   --relocate               : relocate via url-rewriting
19:57 < th> ?
19:57 < daja77> think so
19:58 < fake> no , just switch
19:58 < rxr> nope
19:58 < fake> iirc
19:58 < th> hmm
19:58 < rxr> switch --relocate will just rewrite this URL in the .svn files - which is fast
19:58 < rxr> and will work in this case
19:58 < th> ok
19:59 < th> so i do want --relocate
19:59 < rxr> without --relocate - a vanilla swtich - will create a _huge_ difference tree in memory and merge to the other location
19:59 < rxr> this is _very_ expensive
19:59 < rxr> th: yes
20:00 < fake> hm.
20:00 < martin__> gn8 all ...
20:00 < rxr> when you need a vanilla swithc when you jump between branches, tags and trunks ...
20:00 < rxr> hi martin__ 
20:00 < rxr> and cu martin__ 
20:00 < martin__> hi rxr
20:00 < rxr> martin__: I'll be at FH tomorrow (at least I plan to ...)
20:00 < martin__> rxr: *wow* :-)
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20:02 < martin__> rxr: we will talk tomorrow. gn8 ...
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20:20 < th> rxr: did you fix the nssdb issue?
20:22 < rxr> nope - my girlfriends parents visited us this afternoon
20:23 < rxr> and now I'm cidnapped to work on the homepage or Verena and print cards for her ...
20:23 < daja77> :)
20:27 < th> "... work on the homepage or Verena ..."
20:27 < th> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-isdn4k-utils.out -> 5-isdn4k-utils.err
20:27 < daja77> rofl
20:28 < th> daja77: hey, that's what HE wrote
20:28 < daja77> i know, but this is typo chan
20:29 < th> daja77: is there a minimum number of typos i need to "inject" here?
20:29 < daja77> yepp :)
20:29 < th> evil
20:30 < th> anyone interested in 5-isdn4k-utils.err?
20:30 < th> (rev 1518)
20:31 < daja77> guess i already looked at it
20:31 < daja77> libmisc problem?
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20:31 < th> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/../../../libpanel.a(p_delete.o)(.text+0x2fa): mo
20:31 < th> re undefined references to `_nc_panelhook' follow
20:31 < th> daja77: perhaps a libpanel problem?
20:32 < daja77> nc = ncurses?
20:32 < th> not sire
20:32 < th> ,oO(hey that was my typo)
20:32 < daja77> you see
20:32 < th> might be ncurses
20:34 < mnemoc> libpanel is from ncurses
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20:47 < th> does Create-ErrList change anything on my build dir?
20:47 < th> or is it read-only
20:49 < daja77> should do no harm
20:50 < th> ok
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21:38 < netrunne1> hm ... this is the problem while fixing problems that occur during a build: sometimes the bad code does not need to be fixed but deleted :/
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21:40 < netrunner> ah, just discovered that my build finished :)
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21:53 < rxr> re
21:58 < rxr> mnemoc: I know there are more patches pending
21:58 < rxr> mnemoc: but they all need a deeper review ... - I'll process them during the next days .... :-(
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22:32 < netrunner> hm ... when rescheduling a package - shouldn't depending packages also be rebuilt? like I just got mozilla rescheduled, but galeon still thinks there is the old built mozilla?
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23:13 < th> how can i reschedule a package for rebuild?
23:13 < th> just like Create-ErrList -newdelete does
23:13 < th> but without changing something in packages config
23:16 < th> hmm -fulldelete is neat
23:52 < daja77> -fulldelete?
23:58 < th> jo
23:58 < daja77> hmm
23:58 < th> Create-ErrList -fulldelete   seems to remove every package that had an error. thus it's rescheduled
23:59 < daja77> 980 builds total, 211 completed fine, 0 with errors.
23:59 < daja77> *yes*
23:59 < th> and Create-ErrList -fulldelete PKG1 PKG2 seems to remove only some
23:59 < th> daja77: revision?
23:59 < daja77> 1532
23:59 < th> you did not encounter mine-problems
23:59 < th> ?
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