--- Log opened Tue Sep 30 00:00:57 2003
00:22 < rxr> re
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00:28 < fake> re.
00:28 < rxr> hi fake 
00:28 < fake> why doesn't my mutt notify me about new mail in other folders since my switch to Maildir ?
00:29 < fake> check_new=yes
00:30 < A-Tui> hola
00:33 * daja77 got a cold or sth
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00:37 < Lorini> huch
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00:41 < rxr> daja77: me to for the last 8 days or so ...
00:41 < rxr> but nearly hacked away ...
00:41 < daja77> hehe
00:41 < daja77> dunno if i can go to work tomorrow *argh*
00:42 < daja77> rtai stuff almost finished today
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00:44 < daja77> lol Don't like your neighbor? --> https://tips.fbi.gov/
00:54 * daja77 goes to bed and takes the cold with him
00:54 < daja77> happy night
00:55 * rxr filling daja daja77 into the form
00:55 < daja77> hm?
00:55 < rxr> Please describe your information:
00:55 < rxr> goes to bed far toooo early.
00:55 < daja77> lol
00:55 < rxr> n8 daja77 
00:55 < daja77> you are right
00:55 * daja77 hates bein sick
00:55 < Lorini> night
00:56 < Lorini> im so sorry :(
00:56 * daja77 embraces Lorini, coughs a bit and leaves
00:56 < Lorini> byebye
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01:10 < fake> sw33t
01:10 < fake> my IMAP SSL courier works like a charm ;)
01:16 < Lorini> still awake
01:20 < fake> still?
01:20 * fake getting something to eat... BK or Mac ?
01:20 < fake> ... or KFC
01:21 < fake> bbl
01:21 < rxr> cu 
01:22 < rxr> hm
01:23 < rxr> just taking a look into my colorful web stats
01:23 < rxr> september:340.28 GB
01:23 < rxr> where: 16 Sep 2003 125.89 GB
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01:23 < rxr> ?!?!
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01:35 < Lorini> good night everybody
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01:43 < rxr> hm - 960 packages now ...
01:43 < rxr> we will have far over 1000 soon ... :-(
01:43 < rxr> I need new RAM for the build server ...
01:44 < rxr> n8 - finally() ...
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06:45 < blindcoder> moin moin
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06:56 < netrunner> moin, too
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09:39 < hopelessOwl> moin
09:41 < blindcoder> moin moin
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10:05 < Mike1> moin
10:06 < hopelessOwl> hi Mike1 , clifford 
10:06 < Mike1> hi owly
10:06 < Mike1> clifford: awake?
10:06 < blindcoder> moin moin mikey :)
10:07 < Mike1> greetings blindy :)
10:14 < hopelessOwl> .oO(i haven't ever seen so many drunken people sitting in a office/company... )
10:16 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: company finally bankrupt and everyone killing the last alc-reserves?
10:17 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: c) company-members (the most of them) - visited oktoberfest yesterday
10:24 < hopelessOwl> shit, i have finished my school-work - and now i have to do this boring ado-crap again and will get depressed again. NO! NO! NO!!! * ARHG* *crying* 
10:24 < blindcoder> oh...
10:24 < hopelessOwl> hm?
10:25 < Mike1> mmm...
10:25 < Mike1> hmpf...
10:27 < blindcoder> I haven't been at oktoberfest and I won't go there
10:27 < blindcoder> But I can stay the next two days at home *WEE*
10:28 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: ack. won't go to oktoberfest, too.
10:28 < hopelessOwl> now my NIC is broken *har*
10:29 < Mike1> blindcoder: did you start ur jap classes?
10:29 < blindcoder> Mike1: today is the first lesson
10:29 < blindcoder> at 19:30, so in 9 hours
10:29 < Mike1> i know
10:29 < Mike1> just didn't know the time
10:29 < Mike1> :)
10:29 < Mike1> so siemens nightmare over?
10:29 < blindcoder> hehe, I will tell you tomorrow morning :)
10:29 < blindcoder> for now, yes.
10:30 < Mike1> hehe :)
10:30 < blindcoder> My boss will call me on Monday to tell me where I have to go now
10:30 < blindcoder> there are a few things, but nothing sure yet
10:30 < hopelessOwl> haeh=
10:30 < Mike1> i see
10:31 < blindcoder> maybe back to Siemens in another dopt, maybe somewhere completeely else, who knows :)
10:31 < Mike1> get them to transfer you to CR :)
10:32 < blindcoder> hehe, would be nice, I could torture you first-hand :)
10:33 < Mike1> mmh... well birthdays would be fun :)
10:35 < blindcoder> I just had bxday some 6 weeks ago...
10:35 < Mike1> as if i would forget...
10:36 < Mike1> remember i am 1 day older than you..
10:38 < blindcoder> yes, I know *grrr*
10:38 < Mike1> kiddie .. :P
10:39 < hopelessOwl> hehe
10:40 < blindcoder> grandpa .. :P
10:40 < Mike1> grrr
10:40 * Mike1 hugs owly
10:46 < hopelessOwl> *rehug*
10:46 < hopelessOwl> wtf is wrong now???
10:47 < hopelessOwl> insert new NIC -> windows doesn't boot again... 
10:47 < hopelessOwl> haeh??? *confused*
10:47 < Mike1> windows... hehehehe
10:48 < hopelessOwl> hmmm... it just appears a "scsi menu"
10:51 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini
10:52 < Mike1> Andi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:54 < Lorini> hey :)
10:54 < Mike1> gutten tag ! wie geht es dir?
10:56 < Lorini> sehr gut ;)
11:00 < blindcoder> moin lori
11:00 < Lorini> moin moin
11:01 < hopelessOwl> hrg. how to remove a resource conflict (pci network controller) with bios?
11:02 < hopelessOwl> (btw, phoenixBIOS 4.0 release 6.0 dell dimension xps t600r pc)
11:04 < rxr> re
11:04 < blindcoder> re rxr
11:04 < Mike1> moin rxr
11:04 < rxr> hi Mike1 
11:04 < rxr> greating over the big sea ...
11:05 < blindcoder> rxr: could you change $data to $datadir in hddtemp.conf last line?
11:05 * blindcoder --> lunch
11:06 < rxr> hehe disableding the relay for emails with .exe helps a lot against unwanted 160kB mails ...
11:06 < rxr> blindcoder: oh ;-)
11:06 < daja77> hi there
11:06 < rxr> blindcoder: done
11:06 < rxr> hi daja77 
11:06 < Lorini> huhu daja77
11:07 < Mike1> hi daja77
11:07 < daja77> hi rxr, Mike1, Lorini 
11:12 < hopelessOwl> i don't understand this world anymore! *jumping out of window*
11:13 < daja77> O_o
11:13 < hopelessOwl> insert new card -> resource conflict. remove new card, insert old card -> resource conflict. remove old card, insert new card -> works --> HAEH????
11:13 < daja77> hey that's windows no need to kill yourself
11:14 < hopelessOwl> no. it wasn't windows... windows didn't boot... 
11:14 < hopelessOwl> because of the resource conflict
11:14 < hopelessOwl> ... dell's logic ... ?
11:14 < daja77> could be
11:14 < hopelessOwl> strange... *headshake*
11:23 < netrunner> hopelessOwl: ever tried the 'reset bus configuration' in your bios? helps in those cases :)
11:25 < daja77> 980 builds total, 748 completed fine, 24 with errors
11:31 < hopelessOwl> netrunner: sure i did.
11:31 < hopelessOwl> but - now it works -> i don't care about it anymore
11:39 * blindcoder back
11:40 < netrunner> 984 builds total, 589 completed fine, 13 with errors. and still building.
11:40 < netrunner> maybe it is finished when I get back home? 
11:41 < daja77> don't think so
11:41 < netrunner> daja77: why? 
11:41 < daja77> too much packages left
11:42 < netrunner> daja77: I thought there are about 1k? 
11:42 < netrunner> ah, ok the completed is the # to look at :/
11:43 < daja77> :)
11:44 < netrunner> 938 packages total :/
11:45 < netrunner> *kick* bunzip2: Input file /R.work/download/blindcoder/xjdic23/ is a directory
11:45 < blindcoder> hrm?
11:45 < blindcoder> mom
11:46 < blindcoder> ehrm... mom, this'll take a bit longer...
11:49 < blindcoder> that was a change while I was on vacation... have to doublecheck that
11:51 < Mike1> ok i am off ..really need some sleep
11:51 < netrunner> hopelessOwl: [5] owl/openbox fails.
11:51 < netrunner> n8 Mike1 
11:51 < Mike1> good night all.
11:51 < Mike1> netrunner: take care :)
11:51 < netrunner> Mike1: I think I'll have lunch now :)
11:52 < blindcoder> n8 Mike1 
11:52 < Mike1> lol. enjoy it.
11:52 < blindcoder> hmm... that xjdic thing could never have compiled...
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11:56 < blindcoder> or the desc_* behaviour has changed...
12:04 < blindcoder> okay, have a fix here
12:06 < blindcoder> netrunner: fix is on the way
12:09 < hopelessOwl> netrunner: bad luck. 
12:09 < hopelessOwl> i won't fix it. 
12:10 < daja77> cu later
12:11 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: so it's ok to tell rene to kill that package?
12:13 < rxr> done - they are now in misc ...
12:14 < blindcoder> okay :)
12:15 < rxr> in the future people will only get an own repository if they have more then 4-5 packages - others will go into misc ...
12:15 < blindcoder> sounds reasonable...
12:15 * rxr bored of mv $pkg ; ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch ; patch -p1 < copy.patch
12:16 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: sure it is.
12:24 < netrunner> ts ... I want to find somebody who repairs my vacuum cleaner and find http://www.rheinneckarforum.de/sex.htm
12:44 < netrunner> rxr: ok, I'll submit some more packages for mine :)
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13:19 < fake> moin...
13:20 < Lorini> moin fake
13:21 < hopelessOwl> moin fake 
13:21 < fake> hi girsl 
13:21 < fake> *girls..
13:22 < Lorini> ...
13:24 < blindcoder> hi fakey
13:25 < fake> hi bc
13:26 < fake> rxr: please update the DNS cache of your mail-sending host...
13:26 < fake> rxr: for the svn-commit mails
13:29 < fake> (if possible)
13:50 < fake> make OPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES 
13:50 < fake> aeh
13:50 < fake> nevermind
14:14 * clifford just posted a "Proposal for ROCKNET" on the mailinglist. (fyi)
14:17 < fake> hi clifford
14:18 < clifford> hi fake, everyone.
14:25 * fake reading maildropfilter manpage
14:26 * blindcoder feeling like he's killing something.... shutting down screens, disconnecting from servers, deactivating applications, deleting his $HOME... *snif*
14:26 < fake> blindcoder: keep that backdoor ;)
14:27 * blindcoder whistles innocently
14:27 < clifford> blindcoder is killing something or killed by something??
14:27 < clifford> (makes a little different ;-)
14:27 < blindcoder> clifford: something of both... today's my last day at Siemens
14:28 < clifford> oh! are you going or heve been gone? *g*
14:28 < blindcoder> so I'm killed by ending contracts and have to kill my admin-machine
14:28 < blindcoder> I have to go cause the contracts runs out... now I have a few days off and will start a new job on monday
14:28 * clifford is faszinated by this this active-passive grammar thing..
14:29 < clifford> where is your new job?
14:29 < blindcoder> my boss is currently buying some wine to bid me farewell... should that worry me?
14:29 < hopelessOwl> ake BOOT_LDFLAGS="-static" bootstrap
14:29 < blindcoder> clifford:I don't know yet, my boss will call me on monday when it is all decided...
14:30 < blindcoder> I'm "working" for a company called IS 4 IT, which is more or less like a "Zeitarbeitsfirma", just not quite like that :)
14:30 < blindcoder> so I have a boss at IS4IT who will call me on monday, and one here at siemens who is currently shopping for some wine :)
14:33 < hopelessOwl> .oO(those guys must love blindcoder)
14:33 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: that's exactly what worries me...
14:34 < hopelessOwl> hihi ;p 
14:35 < clifford> For those not paying attention, SCO is the company locked in lawsuits with IBM and Red Hat over ownership rights to bits of code in Linux. SCO wants users to cough up $1,400 per processor to use the Linux OS, while Linux users want the company to return to the rather boring hole from where it came.
14:35 < clifford> [ http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/33098.html ]
14:37 < blindcoder> nette zusammenfassung :)
14:38 < clifford> blindcoder: this is an 'en-only' channel...  ;-)
14:39 < blindcoder> sorry, I couldn't translate that to english right now... *stands in a corner and fels guilty*
14:40 < clifford> what was the word you where looking for? "nice" or "summary"?  *g*
14:40 < blindcoder> summary
14:40 < blindcoder> oh, boss returned withb  the alcohol... bbl :-)
14:40 < clifford> have fun!  ;-)
14:41 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: enjoy it. bye
14:42 * hopelessOwl shot's microsoft developers for this crappy MSDN
14:51 < fake> man msdn ;)
14:53 < hopelessOwl> fake: *kick* ;p
15:12 < fake> SHOCK
15:12 < fake> *sterb*
15:12 < fake> hahaha
15:12 * fake sitting outside
15:12 < fake> a bird flew against a window with full speed and shocked me like mad
15:13 < fake> now it is lying on the floor, relaxing - and a stream of blood comes out of it's head.
15:13 < fake> muahaha.
15:13 < fake> (looks kinda silly)
15:14 < Lorini> is it dead?
15:15 < fake> i'm no doctor, but i'd say it's pretty dead.
15:15 < Lorini> :(
15:15 < fake> like lots of blood and stuff... 
15:15 < Lorini> yes
15:15 < Lorini> its ok
15:15 < Lorini> no details please..
15:15 < fake> ironically the blood is much too red - as if it were faked ;)
15:16 < fake> .oO( is my blood the same color? )
15:16 < Lorini> never seen your blood?
15:19 < fake> not that much at once
15:19 < clifford> fake: it simply depends where you are blooding.//
15:19 < fake> (well, not thaht much at once being as clear in thoughts as i am now ;)
15:19 < Lorini> clifford: really?
15:20 < fake> if you catch en ateria, it's blue ;)
15:20 < fake> .mailfilter(25): Missing )
15:20 < fake> hrmpf
15:20 < fake> it's there, damnit
15:21 < clifford> If you catch the liver it is almost black.
15:21 < daja77> re
15:21 < hopelessOwl> *puke*
15:21 < Lorini> mhm
15:21 < Lorini> interesting
15:21 < Lorini> re daja77
15:22 < hopelessOwl> wb daja77 
15:22 < daja77> thx re all
15:22 < clifford> hi daja77...
15:22 < daja77> O_o /me wondering what clifford is hiding after the ...
15:24 < fake> anyone using maildrop here?
15:25 < clifford> hmm.. eighter noone is reading my rocknet proposal or everyone thinks it's just fine...
15:25 < daja77> <- currently not reading ml
15:26 < clifford> why?
15:26 < daja77> i am at work, so i could only access it via webmailer
15:26 < clifford> http://www.clifford.at/priv/rocknet.txt
15:27 < daja77> thx
15:28 < clifford> or: http://www.rocklinux.net:80/lurker/message/20030930.121940.9fab0c15.html
15:28 < daja77> :)
15:28 * daja77 reading
15:32 < daja77> looks nice, but reminds a bit of /etc/sysconfig/network
15:36 < hopelessOwl> <-- off. bye
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15:46 < SMP> clifford: I don't like it ;-) I'll respond later ...
15:47 < clifford> SMP: ok. I expected already s.th. like that...  ;-)
15:58 < fake> wee. maildrop works ;)
16:02 < th> fake: yea. and it drops half of my mails...
16:05 < fake> th: thanks for telling me _now_
16:05 * fake just finished procmail -> maildrop conversion
16:05 < th> well it's it's job
16:05 < fake> ;P
16:05 < th> i want my spam dropped ;)
16:06 < fake> u play around with my blood pressure, boy
16:06 < daja77> hmm everybody is teasing fake without telling mw
16:06 < daja77> me
16:06 < Lorini> lol
16:19 -!- Esel [~capchaos@dialin-212-144-044-053.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:20 < daja77> hi Esel 
16:20 < Esel> Hi,  daja!
16:21 < Lorini> hi
16:21 < Esel> Hallo, Lorini!
16:21 < daja77> hope you brought some russian food for the chan
16:22 < Esel> daja77, true russian food is made by mom's hand actually :)
16:22 < Lorini> nice to see you, Esel
16:22 < Esel> My pleasure, Lorini.
16:22 < daja77> well i don't care who made, it would be enough if you would have brought some :)
16:23 < Lorini> greetings to your family
16:25 < netrunner> fake: why are you against procmail?
16:25 * Esel throws russian food into daja's mouth
16:26 < rxr> re
16:26 * daja77 eating
16:26 < daja77> :)
16:26 < daja77> hi rxr
16:26 < netrunner> Esel: isn't that called vodka?
16:26 < netrunner> hi rxr
16:26 * netrunner throws his boss over to daja77
16:26 < Esel> netrunner, "vodka" is no more than "little water" in EN. 
16:27 < daja77> netrunner: what should i do with your boss
16:27 < Esel> netrunner, but i guess daja wouldn't mind having some ;-)
16:28 < daja77> pah
16:28 < netrunner> daja77: eat him. whatever you want :) but no return!
16:28 < daja77> lol
16:29 * netrunner is getting hungry, if I shall call home for some food?
16:29 < daja77> netrunner: why not eating your boss yourself
16:32 < netrunner> daja77: I tried, but he tastes uhm, like when my brother cooks :)
16:32 < daja77> then just kill him :)
16:33 < netrunner> daja77: you know what I'll do? going home. now. (they already went to the beerfestival anyway)
16:35 < daja77> rofl
16:35 < daja77> <- hopes never having to work in munich
16:35 * Lorini wants back to munich
16:35 < daja77> haha!
16:35 * daja77 runs
16:36 < Lorini> ..
16:36 < daja77> otherwise she beats me agian ...
16:36 < Lorini> of course
16:36 < Lorini> you need it :)
16:37 < daja77> O_o
16:37 < Esel> daja77, enjoy being beaten by a woman, it won't happen twice the same ;-)
16:37 < Lorini> Esel: i can beat you, too...
16:37 < daja77> Esel liked bein beaten by owl ...
16:38 < Esel> Yeh, Owl had the special Springerstiefel-twist while beating.. 
16:38 < Lorini> too bad she's not here
16:43 * netrunner he takes a heavy rock and drops it on Lorini's left foot.
16:43 < Lorini> au?!
16:43 * netrunner giggles.
16:44 < netrunner> Lorini: was daja77's idea.
16:44 < Lorini> AHA
16:44 < netrunner> Lorini: I suggest kicking him.
16:44 < Lorini> daja?
16:44 < daja77> liar
16:44 < Lorini> some last words?
16:44 < daja77> i loved you all
16:44 < netrunner> daja77: don't try to escape :)
16:44 < Lorini> daja: nice words
16:45 < netrunner>  .o( my colleagues here are looking concerned why I am smiling at work :)
16:45 * daja77 fetching netrunner's harley and drives away
16:45 < Lorini> harley?
16:45 < Lorini> hum
16:45 * netrunner tells his dog that there's a big saussage in daja's pocket
16:45 < Lorini> lol
16:45 < netrunner> uhm, maybe not that big :)
16:46 < daja77> but i am faster
16:46 < Lorini> lol
16:46 * netrunner 's dog is clever and runs in the other direction, that they meet eachother at the other side of the big blue :)
16:47 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o clifford] by ChanServ
16:47 <@clifford> who wants to get kicked ?  ;-)
16:47 < netrunner> suddenly everybody falls silent :)
16:48 < netrunner> ok, home now. ┤cu later
16:48 < daja77> well if you kick us all, you are alone her :)
16:48 <@clifford> hm... but now I just feel like kicking someone...
16:48 -!- clifford was kicked from #rocklinux by clifford (clifford)
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16:49 < daja77> lol
16:50 < clifford> That reminds me to the IRC bot which kicked 20 useres in a few seconds for spamming on the channel and than kicked itself for producing too much traffic and so spamming the channel..  ;-)
16:50 < Lorini> lol
16:50 < daja77> hehehe
16:51 < clifford> really bad on IRCNet without Chanserv - because the bot kicked all ops before commiting suicide.
16:51 < daja77> ircnet sucks anyway
16:53 < clifford> yup. But #cngw is there. Almost everyone agrees that it should be moved - but because one half thinks it should go to silknet and the other half's opinnion is that it should better go to freenode, nothing happens at all.
16:53 < rxr> hi clifford 
16:53 < clifford> hi rxr.
16:53 < clifford> do you like my rocknet proposal?
16:53 < daja77> cngw?
16:54 < clifford> cngw = Chaos Nahe Gruppe Wien
16:54 < rxr> clifford: I just read it briefly - I need to compare it with SMP's code - and meditate a bit about it
16:54 < clifford> it is in no way related to SMPs code ..
16:54 < rxr> IIRC SMPs ideas have be more flexible - also stuff like wlan settings seem to be missing 
16:54 < rxr> but I was wuprised to see firewall functionallity in it ...
16:55 * clifford is patenting the word wuprised.
16:55 * rxr hm - typing wile phoning results in some typos :-(
16:55 * rxr is patenting typos wihle phoning mail-delivery companies ...
16:55 < daja77> are compressed patches detected automagically or do i have to perform some additional magic to get them working?
16:56 < rxr> daja77: I think they shoudl work
16:56 < daja77> applying fails atm
16:57 < clifford> apply_patchfiles() {
16:57 < clifford>         for x in $patchfiles; do
16:57 < clifford>                 echo "Apply patch $x ..."
16:57 < clifford>                 if [[ $x = *.bz2 ]] ; then
16:57 < clifford>                         bzcat $x | patch $patchopt
16:57 < clifford>                 else
16:57 < clifford>                         eval patch $patchopt < $x
16:57 < clifford>                 fi
16:57 < clifford>         done
16:57 < clifford> }
16:57 < daja77> ic, thx
16:57 < clifford> there is an eval missing for the 1st patch...
16:58 < clifford> ..but that shouldn't hurt since patchopt="-bfp1 -z .orig"
16:59 < clifford> rxr: could you eighter remove the eval for the 2nd patch or add it to the 1st?
16:59 < rxr> clifford: sure
17:00 < rxr> clifford: done
17:01 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
17:02 < mnemoc> re all
17:02 < daja77> no wonder that windows is used everywhere http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/co/15704/1.html
17:02 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
17:02 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
17:02 < mnemoc> clifford: did you read linux-extraversion patch?
17:05 * mnemoc obsessed ;-)
17:05 < mnemoc> my diff with the trunk is to fat :(
17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: yes yes - I'm on my way to review the bigger more intrusive patches ..
17:06 < daja77> d'oh the original patches add an extraversion, which causes lots of trouble *grmpf*
17:06 < mnemoc> =)
17:06 < mnemoc> yes?
17:06 < rxr> unfortunately I want to tag -rc2 and I think this stuff will destabelize a bit so this will be applied after -rc2 and a deeper review
17:06 < mnemoc> what troubles?
17:07 < mnemoc> revert perl update before tagging
17:07 < daja77> 980 builds total, 882 completed fine, 30 with errors.
17:07 < daja77> *sigh* guess i don't like rc2
17:07 < mnemoc> all of them because of me?
17:07 < daja77> no
17:08 < blindcoder> daja77: did xjdic23 build?
17:08 < daja77> no, but your patch isn't applied yet
17:08 < blindcoder> daja77: just wanted to verify at a third place...
17:08 < daja77> :)
17:09 < praenti> hi
17:09 < blindcoder> moin praenti 
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17:10 < blindcoder> captain on the bridge!
17:10 < jean_luc_picard> keep me informed
17:11 < clifford> mnemoc: lvs will go into the next 2.4 kernel afaik. Is it ok with you if we move ipvsadm to base then ?
17:15 < mnemoc> no problem :)
17:18 < mnemoc> i guess pkg should by renamed
17:25 < rxr> who wants to vix bsd-games and isdn4k-utils ?
17:26 < mnemoc> daja77 wants
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17:27 < mnemoc> cu 
17:28 < daja77> mnemoc: well after fixing rtai, ok
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17:54 < fake> *sigh*
17:54 < fake> damn isdn
17:54 * fake driving into the forrest again
17:54 < fake> bbl
18:00 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away
18:00 < clifford_away> cu.
18:00 < daja77> cu clifford_away 
18:30 < daja77> hmm seems that all our patches making it impossible to apply rtai patch :(
18:33 < rolla> daja77: did you read about the linux box that booted in 200ms?
18:33 < daja77> erh no ...
18:34 < rolla> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/30/003209&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=185&tid=190
18:35 < daja77> well kernel boot speed is ok for me, but sysv is lame
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18:42 < praenti> daja77: have you tried minit already?
18:42 < praenti> but i dont know how much dietlibc is need to use this
18:42 < daja77> nope, but i'd like to do so
18:43 < praenti> it comes also from fefe
18:43 < daja77> minit is linked against dietlibc, what did you expect
18:45 < daja77> d'oh patch conflicts are nasty, can i disable all rock patches for this?
18:49 -!- iBook [~martin@pD9E78F35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:50 < iBook> Hello ...
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18:50 < daja77> hi martin :))
18:58 < iBook> he he daja77, yes. hi
18:59 < daja77> hmm
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19:13 < netrunner> hm ... my laptop feels so slow ... but I think 66s for ncftp looks like normal speed.
19:14 < netrunner> It took grub ages to load the kernel, I wonder what that is.
19:14 < netrunner> maybe just the k6-2 desktop rocklinux on a p4 :)
19:14 < daja77> oh
19:15 < daja77> you are bizarre
19:15 < netrunner> daja77: I couldn't build for p4 on my build server. so I had to install a lower build on it, it is currently building itself a rocklinux :)
19:16 < daja77> well in such cases wise men optimize for pentium-mmx ...
19:21 < netrunner> daja77: why? I guess mmx hass less instructions than the k2, no?
19:22 < daja77> dunno, but it is compatible to all higher processor k6-2 not afaik
19:24 < netrunner> 984 builds total, 608/938 completed fine, 14 with errors.
19:24 < netrunner> I guess it will be ready tomorrow, right when I have to go to work.
19:26 < daja77> could take longer
19:28 < netrunner> daja77: normal generic takes about 36h, I started yesterday at 6am, so...
19:28 < netrunner> uh, perhaps that was 48 :)
19:28 < daja77> :))
19:29 < netrunner> we need to get that clusterbuild right. then I can speed up that baby.
19:34 * daja77 goin home
19:41 < netrunner> cu daja77 
19:48 < praenti> ok. i'm away now. gn8 to all creative people of ROCK :-)
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20:08 * netrunner introduces aalib
20:23 * netrunner watches pr0n in aa
20:24 < daja77> you are bizarre
20:24 < owl> *cough*
20:27 < rxr> re
20:27 < rolla> yawn
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20:28 < rxr> hi rolla 
20:28 < daja77> hi rolla
20:29 < rxr> I'm curious about the rock usage in the US - how many people do you know in your area using ROCK ?
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20:31 < netrunner> hm ... isn't it forbidden to have files in /usr/local ?
20:33 < rxr> ye
20:33 < rxr> s
20:33 * tcr just received a copy of the new 3.0-alpha release of bash which is still inofficial... 
20:34 < rxr> tcr: go on bug hunting and use it to run the ROCK build scripts ... ;-)
20:34 < tcr> haven't looked at it closely enough, but biggest extension is the integration of the bash debugger
20:34 < rolla> rxr I am the only one I know
20:35 < netrunner> is there a guide where to move such files? i have id3v2: usr/local/bin/id3v2
20:35 < tcr> will examine it probably at the weekend... Now I'm catching up with the 162 unread mails I received today
20:35 * tcr just got home an hour ago
20:39 < daja77> uff 93 new mails
20:40 < rolla> rxr you still here?
20:41 < iBook> hi rxr
20:43 < rxr> rolla: sure
20:43 < rxr> rolla: you should do some PR over there !
20:43 < rxr> hi martin
20:43 < daja77> hehe yeah @ the sco roadshow e.g.
20:50 < rxr> mnemoc: around ?
20:51 < rxr> /lib/*.{a,la} -> /usr/lib makes some trouble - mnemoc: to be discussed ...
21:00 < rxr> erhm - shit fuck damn 
21:00 < rxr> why are the search engines pulling all the isos out of my server
21:06 < th> rxr: {a,la} trouble on kdeadmin?
21:06 < rxr> th yes
21:06 < rxr> th are you a robots.txt expert ?
21:07 < th> not at all :-/
21:07 < rxr> hm - SMP awake ?
21:08 < SMP> jap
21:08 < rxr> my questions is if a Disallow: *.iso will be enough - or if I need to Disable a whole sub-dir (which would not be that nice since it is perfectly fine to cache / index the directory listings in the sub-dirs containing the ISO images ...
21:08 < rxr> hi SMP 
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21:11 < SMP> rxr: what url are we talking about?
21:12 < rxr> .iso images that are fetched by robots ...
21:13 < SMP> rxr: what URL are we talking about?
21:14 < iBook> okay, gn8 everyone and rxr
21:14 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/rock/stable/2.0.0-rc1/desktop/
21:15 < rxr> drock-2.0.0-rc1-rev1165-x86-pentium-mmx-cd1.iso
21:17 < SMP> hmm, your httpd serves them as text/plain
21:17 < th> .oO(oups)
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21:22 < rxr> ok - what is standard for them - octet-stream ?
21:22 < SMP> I'm not aware of any specific type, so application/octet-stream should be the best choice
21:26 < rxr> SMP: you verified the type with telnet ?
21:26 < SMP> yes
21:35 < jsaw_> re
21:35 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw
21:36 < jsaw> SMP, rxr: I was not aware that gnucash is officially gnome-1.4, so, of course, I also think it should stay that way.
21:38 * jsaw is curious to see abiword 2.0 + plugins in action
21:39 < SMP> Gnucash sucks a bit in an Unicode locale, just like all GTK 1 programs ...
21:41 < SMP> but it does all HBCI I need and I don't have to sell my soul to Matrica (Moneyplex)
21:42 < jsaw> does it work well?
21:44 < rxr> hi jsaw 
21:45 < jsaw> hi there
21:45 < rxr> SMP: ok mime-type corrected and tested (after cross-reading some pages about HTTP) ...
21:46 < SMP> jsaw: I can poll entries for my account and make transfers, that's all I need.
21:46 < SMP> getting the balance does not work (at least for my bank)
21:47 < jsaw> SMP: which one?
21:48 < SMP> the semi-automagic choice of the account for the contra-entry is still a secret for me, though
21:49 < SMP> jsaw: local Kreissparkasse
21:49 < jsaw> SMP: let's see how LBBW will handle it... I will switch to HBCI till the end of the year I hope
21:54 < SMP> rxr: I'm not entirely sure this will keep the bots from downloading all of the images (they should just close the connection when they see application/octet-stream, though)
21:59 < rolla> robots.txt?
22:01 < rxr> rolla: see above this was my firt question ...
22:01 * tcr is gonna sleep. gn8 all
22:01 < esden> hi all
22:01 < rolla> I missed that ;)
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22:03 < tsa> hi all.
22:04 < esden> hi tsa 
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22:07 < SMP> rxr: I have a few small fixes for samba pending. I'd like to see the pretty useless smb.conf in $docdir rather than ni /etc
22:07 < rxr> hi esden 
22:08 < SMP> also /etc/private is pretty stupid IMHO
22:08 < rxr> SMP: sure - send modifications over
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22:10 < SMP> if users don't know smb.conf well and need to use a template smb.conf, they should use swat instead ...
22:12 < tsa> LOL.
22:12 < tsa> fetchmaing mail from an exchange server via pop3:
22:12 < tsa> -ERR Eine Diskette auf dem Server ist voll und der Vorgang konnte nicht bearbeitet werden.
22:24 < daja77> hi esden
22:25 < esden> hi daja77 *hug*
22:26 < daja77> *rehug*
22:26 < esden> finally ... a decent connection ... that is nice ...
22:27 < esden> no more lagging 
22:27 * -> esden happy
22:30 < rxr> esden: baack at home ?
22:31 < esden> nearly ... /me at bitz
22:37 < rxr> ah so at least back in germany ...
22:37 < rxr> and visited regina on the way back ?
22:40 < esden> yes ... we called you ... Verena did not tell you?
22:41 < esden> ok ... I drive home now ... I will be back online l8er
22:41 < esden> cu guys
22:42 < daja77> cu esden 
22:44 < rxr> esden: hm - verena told me that regina phoned and wanted to call back - but must have missed that you have been in Berlin, too ...
22:44 < rxr> cu esden 
22:54 < tsa> rxr: what do you thik about renaming "infinity" to "xmms-infinity"?
22:55 < tsa> s/thik/think/
22:56 < rxr> puh - I do not care that much - the new name would be more obvious ...
22:56 < tsa> hm...ok...please rename it, then.
22:56 < daja77> rxr: can i disable all rock kernel patches when using rtai, there are conflicts _(
22:56 < daja77> :(
22:59 < rxr> if you need to - or merge them into a rtai-rock patch
23:00 < daja77> well in that case we would have to ship that modified patches again, you said they are to big
23:00 < rxr> tsa: done
23:01 < rxr> daja77: nope - in that case we would need a rtai patch homepage or just ftp space ...
23:01 < daja77> ack
23:01 < tsa> thx.
23:01 < daja77> so you would prefer a merged patch?
23:01 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/software/
23:01 < rxr> rtai would fit well
23:01 < rxr> it is up to you ...
23:01 < rxr> which patched would you need to disable ▀
23:01 < rxr> ? even ...
23:02 < daja77> all patches which modify Configue and Makefile, so almost all
23:02 < daja77> Configure
23:03 < daja77> the merged patch would have the advantage that i could disable rtai extraversion extension
23:04 < tsa> rxr: stange - i get a directory "infinity" containing a file "xmms-infinity.desc" ..
23:04 < tsa> rev 1571
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23:13 < daja77> rxr: ok so i'll prepare that stuff on thursday and ask you again about that upload stuff then
23:13 < A-Tui> hola
23:13 < daja77> hola A-Tui 
23:14 < rolla> re A-Tui `
23:14 * daja77 off, getting away from monitor
23:14 < A-Tui> i have some problems buiding a generic target
23:15 < daja77> you mean 33 build errors?
23:15 < A-Tui> daja77: i set stop on fait option :)
23:15 < A-Tui> fail
23:15 < daja77> well no good idea
23:16 < daja77> anyway cu later
23:16 < rxr> tsa: now
23:16 < A-Tui> ok daja77, bye
23:16 * rxr was away consuimg some evening meal
23:21 * rxr now crawling into bed - cu
23:22 < tsa> ok, thanks.
23:22 < jsaw> tsa: rxr renames the files in two steps
23:23 < jsaw> tsa: first the .conf/.desc files, then the directory.
23:26 < A-Tui> it's normal that the xfree built remove all under /usr/lib/X11?
23:29 < tsa> i see.
23:54 < fake> hi
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