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03:52 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
03:52 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Tue Sep  2 17:34:51 2003]
03:52 (Users #rocklinux)
03:52 [ [anders]] [ clifford_away] [ esden_] [ kasc     ] [ owl  ] [ tfing  ] 
03:52 [ A-Tui   ] [ cytrinox`-   ] [ fake  ] [ mistik1  ] [ rolla] [ th     ] 
03:52 [ Aard    ] [ daja77       ] [ Freak ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr  ] [ true   ] 
03:52 [ aszlig  ] [ esden        ] [ jsaw  ] [ netrunner] [ SMP  ] [ vectrax] 
03:52 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 24 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 24 normal]
03:52 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug  4 00:11:35 2003
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04:02 < fake> *yawn*
04:02 < fake> uh
04:02 < fake> 4 am
04:06 < fake> and the whole #rocklinux is asleep...
04:06 < fake> what a shame ;)
04:06 < fake> well almost all of #rocklinux
04:07 < fake> a small, unimportant individual saves image ;)
04:07 < fake> the image, even
04:07 < tfing> o_O
04:07 < esden> hi fake 
04:07 < fake> *lol* i sure know how to wake you up
04:07 < esden> I am also awake
04:08 < fake> *coffeeslurp* what are you two at?
04:08 < esden> but I drive hannes home now and then drive to munich and get some sleep ;)
04:08 < fake> greetz to hannes
04:08 < esden> fake: would you mind to give me also a cup of coffee?
04:08 < esden> it would be usefull ;)
04:09 < fake> esden: that's the last one, but i think theres a fresh can in production already *g*
04:09 < esden> hehe ;)
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04:09 < esden> I can come by with hannes ... 
04:09 < fake> hi hannes!
04:09 * fake at holli
04:09 < esden> ;)
04:09 < esden> ohh ... ok
04:09 < hannes> hi fake!
04:09 < esden> I do not know where that is ;)
04:09 < fake> playing around with obsd
04:09 < hannes> ahjo... ;)
04:09 < esden> ok ... I leave now ... cu 
04:10 < fake> ... no portupgrade :`-(
04:10 < hannes> uuh, you leave esden?
04:10 < fake> esden: nye
04:10 < fake> s,n,b,
04:10 < fake> .oO(esdeb)
04:10 * esden is not deb ;)
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04:10 < fake> s,b,pp, *g*
04:10 < hannes> dpkg -i esden.deb
04:10 < hannes> baah...
04:10 < esden> fake: :P
04:11 < fake> dpkg-reconfigure esden 
04:11 < esden> apt-get --purge remove esden
04:12 < esden> [detatch]
04:12 * fake *waves*
04:12 < hannes> bye fake...
04:12 < fake> baba
04:16 < fake> join #openbsd
04:16 < fake> narf...
04:16 < fake> maybe i should sleep sometimes.
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04:18 < chmodman> hello
04:18 < fake> hi
04:20 < chmodman> Anyone know of a good website that indexes files posted on newsgroups?
04:21 * fake absolute usenet lamer
04:21 < fake> i guess google/dejanews don't ?
04:22 < chmodman> I once stumbled on a website thqat did a great job showing what recent files were posted, its much better than google does it... but i cant find the site anyumore
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04:23 < fake> sorry, i can't help you there -_-
04:23 < chmodman> np, thx though
04:28 < chmodman> http://www.newzsearch.com/  this it is :P
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05:43 < esden_> re hi all
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06:04 < esden> n8
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08:52 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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12:06 < rxr> re
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12:57 < rxr> hi trekkie3k 
13:02 < trekkie3k> hi
13:05 < rxr> jsaw_: are you "on-line"?
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13:24 < esden> hi all
13:26 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
13:27 < rxr> hi all
13:28 < blindcoder> rxr: did ncurses build in stage nine over there?
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13:28 < tfing> rxr: at complains when there is no atd running
13:29 < rxr> tfing: ok
13:30 < rxr> blindcoder: the last time yes - but my last build is already a few days old - I start a new one soon ...
13:30 < rxr> cu - me away
13:30 < blindcoder> okay, cu
13:39 < jsaw_> rxr: here I am
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14:28 < th> re
14:34 < SMP> *yawn*
14:34 < th> moin SMP 
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15:21 < th> rxr: 1583 added rc2 tag. does that mean 1582 became rc2 without change>?
15:51 < rxr> re
15:51 < rxr> nope
15:52 < rxr> this means I want to apply more patches - but I might merge some changes back ...
15:52 < rxr> jsaw: should I inject the gnome24 packages into HEAD and rm -rf gnome2  ?
16:01 < th> rxr: so 1583 is not the final rc2?
16:16 < owl> moin
16:17 < owl> wuah. this keyboard ist fscking strange
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17:02 < mnemoc> re all :)
17:08 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
17:14 < mnemoc> hi rxr
17:15 < mnemoc> are you building a reference of rc2?
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18:18 < scythe_> hi
18:19 < netrunner> ho
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18:48 < rxr> hi Nebukadneza 
18:48 < Nebukadneza> ohaio
18:48 < hopelessOwl> hi Nebukadneza 
18:49 < Nebukadneza> hopelessOwl: ah hi ;)
18:49 < Nebukadneza> and ... what about clampx? *G*
18:51 < hopelessOwl> hmm... just at "8" or so
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18:52 < hopelessOwl> but we're continueing now, again. cya
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19:58 < tcr> moin all
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20:17 < tcr> Hmm, forrest gump on tv
21:00 < hopelessOwl> rehi
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21:10 * hopelessOwl np: terminal choice - collective suicide *sigh*
21:40 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
21:40 < hopelessOwl> hi blindy
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21:50 < hopelessOwl> hi dreamind 
21:50 < dreamind> hi hopelessOwl
21:50 < blindcoder> hi there
21:57 < dreamind> hi blindcoder
21:58 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uiver7r.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux
21:58 < zenlunatic> what package/ports system does rock use?
21:58 < hopelessOwl> hi zenlunatic 
21:58 < zenlunatic> Hello.
21:59 < zenlunatic> How does rock differ from ports in freebsd?
21:59 < blindcoder> ehm... well... completely
22:00 < zenlunatic> Oh. Not too much info on the site about the package/ports manager.
22:01 < blindcoder> In the simplest case a ROCK "package" consists of one .desc file
22:02 < tcr> zenlunatic: the fundamental concept is similiar, but the implementation differs
22:03 < zenlunatic> What language is it written in?
22:03 < tcr> Shell, that means bash
22:04 < zenlunatic> Understood.
22:04 < zenlunatic> .desc is a bash script?
22:04 < blindcoder> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/package/blindcoder/irssi/irssi.desc
22:04 < blindcoder> Here's an example
22:06 < zenlunatic> Looks like a .ebuild for Gentoo.
22:07 < blindcoder> never saw one of them
22:07 * tcr neither
22:08 < tcr> zenlunatic, but it's likely that ebuilds are essentially the same as the .desc + .conf files 
22:11 < zenlunatic> http://gentoo.kems.net/gentoo-portage/net-irc/irssi/irssi-0.8.6-r4.ebuild
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22:13 < blindcoder> hmm... it has also the deps within the .ebuild file, so a part of our .cache file is within there...
22:13 < blindcoder> well, it's about the same
22:14 < blindcoder> buah, I can hardly keep my eyes open anymore >_<
22:14 < zenlunatic> Gentoo has something called USE variables where you can set universal compile options like USE -gtk to build stuff without GTK support (stuff that has two options, like fluxbox with gnome and not kde support). does rock have this/
22:16 < SMP> zenlunatic: not in general. some packages offer individual config switches of this kind
22:19 < tcr> Well
22:21 < tcr> zenlunatic, it's right that a real infrastructure is missing for that kind of stuff, but it's possible to determine global flags to GNU configure (so you may be off with using --without-gtk and alike)
22:22 < SMP> it can be switched off reliably by not compiling gtk in the first place ;)
22:23 < zenlunatic> You guys could use Gentoo code.
22:24 < SMP> fundamental misunderstanding #1 when comparing ROCK and Gentoo: ROCK is not a 'source distribution'
22:25 < tcr> ack
22:26 < SMP> and I should have used 'misconception' in place of 'misunderstanding'
22:27 < tcr> zenlunatic, the thing you're mentioning is a very nifty feature but it's only a part of a bigger picture for a distribution build kit
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23:32 < daja77> re
23:36 < daja77> rxr: you here
23:36 < daja77> ?
23:42 < Freak> hi da
23:42 < Freak> daja77
23:42 < Freak> (no nick completion here)
23:43 < daja77> hey Freak, what's up
23:43 < Freak> (that sucks if you're accustomed to it :)
23:43 < Freak> not much, watching "unbreakable"
23:43 < Freak> one of my favourite movies
23:43 < daja77> sounds like a coke bottle
23:44 < Freak> heh
23:44 < Freak> they had this slogan "unkaputtbar" for bonaqua once
23:44 < Freak> dont you know that movie?
23:44 < daja77> no
23:44 < Freak> you should see it
23:44 < daja77> *makingnote*
23:45 < Freak> and since you're already doing so: get "high fidelity", "grosse point blank" and "signs" as well.
23:46 < daja77> signs, no way
23:46 < Freak> why?
23:46 < Freak> noone ever understands that movie :)
23:46 < daja77> well ...
23:47 < Freak> its like with magnolia. noone understands why it rains frogs in the end.
23:47 < daja77> hmm dunno that
23:47 < Freak> thats why everybody keeps saying "geee this is weird!"
23:47 < Freak> but it isnt
23:48 < Freak> its perfectly easy :)
23:48 < daja77> it is freaky?
23:48 < Freak> its "sometimes something unbelieveable has to happen to clean up all the mess in one's life"
23:49 < Freak> you may s/unbelieveable/freaky
23:49 < daja77> like me getting mail from the woman I love
23:50 < Freak> probably :)
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