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--- Log opened Sun Oct 05 00:00:27 2003 03:52 -!- esden_ [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:52 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 03:52 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Tue Sep 2 17:34:51 2003] 03:52 (Users #rocklinux) 03:52 [ [anders]] [ clifford_away] [ esden_] [ kasc ] [ owl ] [ tfing ] 03:52 [ A-Tui ] [ cytrinox`- ] [ fake ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla] [ th ] 03:52 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ Freak ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ true ] 03:52 [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ jsaw ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ vectrax] 03:52 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 24 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 24 normal] 03:52 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 03:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 25 secs 03:53 -!- praenti [mo1032@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:56 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 < fake> *yawn* 04:02 < fake> uh 04:02 < fake> 4 am 04:06 < fake> and the whole #rocklinux is asleep... 04:06 < fake> what a shame ;) 04:06 < fake> well almost all of #rocklinux 04:07 < fake> a small, unimportant individual saves image ;) 04:07 < fake> the image, even 04:07 < tfing> o_O 04:07 < esden> hi fake 04:07 < fake> *lol* i sure know how to wake you up 04:07 < esden> I am also awake 04:08 < fake> *coffeeslurp* what are you two at? 04:08 < esden> but I drive hannes home now and then drive to munich and get some sleep ;) 04:08 < fake> greetz to hannes 04:08 < esden> fake: would you mind to give me also a cup of coffee? 04:08 < esden> it would be usefull ;) 04:09 < fake> esden: that's the last one, but i think theres a fresh can in production already *g* 04:09 < esden> hehe ;) 04:09 -!- hannes [~hannes@eperm.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:09 < esden> I can come by with hannes ... 04:09 < fake> hi hannes! 04:09 * fake at holli 04:09 < esden> ;) 04:09 < esden> ohh ... ok 04:09 < hannes> hi fake! 04:09 < esden> I do not know where that is ;) 04:09 < fake> playing around with obsd 04:09 < hannes> ahjo... ;) 04:09 < esden> ok ... I leave now ... cu 04:10 < fake> ... no portupgrade :`-( 04:10 < hannes> uuh, you leave esden? 04:10 < fake> esden: nye 04:10 < fake> s,n,b, 04:10 < fake> .oO(esdeb) 04:10 * esden is not deb ;) 04:10 -!- cytrinox`- is now known as cytrinox 04:10 < fake> s,b,pp, *g* 04:10 < hannes> dpkg -i esden.deb 04:10 < hannes> baah... 04:10 < esden> fake: :P 04:11 < fake> dpkg-reconfigure esden 04:11 < esden> apt-get --purge remove esden 04:12 < esden> [detatch] 04:12 * fake *waves* 04:12 < hannes> bye fake... 04:12 < fake> baba 04:16 < fake> join #openbsd 04:16 < fake> narf... 04:16 < fake> maybe i should sleep sometimes. 04:18 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 04:18 -!- chmodman [~chmod@65-73-5-66.nrp4.mon.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:18 < chmodman> hello 04:18 < fake> hi 04:20 < chmodman> Anyone know of a good website that indexes files posted on newsgroups? 04:21 * fake absolute usenet lamer 04:21 < fake> i guess google/dejanews don't ? 04:22 < chmodman> I once stumbled on a website thqat did a great job showing what recent files were posted, its much better than google does it... but i cant find the site anyumore 04:23 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.47.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:23 < fake> sorry, i can't help you there -_- 04:23 < chmodman> np, thx though 04:28 < chmodman> https://www.newzsearch.com/ this it is :P 04:43 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.38.121.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:17 -!- chmodman [~chmod@65-73-5-66.nrp4.mon.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit ("Leaving") 05:43 < esden_> re hi all 05:44 -!- esden [~esden@eperm.net] has quit ("leaving") 05:45 -!- You're now known as esden 06:04 < esden> n8 06:59 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E26A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:08 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506B71.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:52 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FDBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 10:53 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-157.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:09 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091a55.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:06 < rxr> re 12:10 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 12:30 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 12:31 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:42 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD900570B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 < rxr> hi trekkie3k 13:02 < trekkie3k> hi 13:05 < rxr> jsaw_: are you "on-line"? 13:14 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-243.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:24 < esden> hi all 13:26 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 13:27 < rxr> hi all 13:28 < blindcoder> rxr: did ncurses build in stage nine over there? 13:28 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-080-073.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < tfing> rxr: at complains when there is no atd running 13:29 < rxr> tfing: ok 13:30 < rxr> blindcoder: the last time yes - but my last build is already a few days old - I start a new one soon ... 13:30 < rxr> cu - me away 13:30 < blindcoder> okay, cu 13:39 < jsaw_> rxr: here I am 13:39 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 13:58 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M309P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:28 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M309P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 14:28 < th> re 14:34 < SMP> *yawn* 14:34 < th> moin SMP 14:54 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 15:05 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-157.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:21 < th> rxr: 1583 added rc2 tag. does that mean 1582 became rc2 without change>? 15:51 < rxr> re 15:51 < rxr> nope 15:52 < rxr> this means I want to apply more patches - but I might merge some changes back ... 15:52 < rxr> jsaw: should I inject the gnome24 packages into HEAD and rm -rf gnome2 ? 16:01 < th> rxr: so 1583 is not the final rc2? 16:16 < owl> moin 16:17 < owl> wuah. this keyboard ist fscking strange 16:21 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 16:24 -!- hopelessOwl [~owl@D05b8.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:02 < mnemoc> re all :) 17:08 < rxr> hi mnemoc 17:14 < mnemoc> hi rxr 17:15 < mnemoc> are you building a reference of rc2? 17:22 -!- owl_ [~owl@D05b8.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:22 -!- hopelessOwl [~owl@D05b8.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:22 -!- owl_ is now known as hopelessOwl 17:46 -!- _spectre_ [ciexwvu@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:48 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091a55.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:53 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.2.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.47.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:18 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 18:18 < scythe_> hi 18:19 < netrunner> ho 18:21 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:24 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has quit (""Just checked in ;-)"") 18:27 -!- pihkal [~clifford@62.46.0.92] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.2.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:34 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.2.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:42 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802CCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:47 -!- pihkal [~clifford@62.46.0.92] has quit ("Client exiting") 18:47 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-157.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 < rxr> hi Nebukadneza 18:48 < Nebukadneza> ohaio 18:48 < hopelessOwl> hi Nebukadneza 18:49 < Nebukadneza> hopelessOwl: ah hi ;) 18:49 < Nebukadneza> and ... what about clampx? *G* 18:51 < hopelessOwl> hmm... just at "8" or so 18:51 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802298.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:52 < hopelessOwl> but we're continueing now, again. cya 18:59 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 19:44 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA94B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:58 < tcr> moin all 20:09 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 20:17 < tcr> Hmm, forrest gump on tv 21:00 < hopelessOwl> rehi 21:00 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.vry.sgsnet.se] has quit ("leaving") 21:10 * hopelessOwl np: terminal choice - collective suicide *sigh* 21:40 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 21:40 < hopelessOwl> hi blindy 21:46 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009243.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 < hopelessOwl> hi dreamind 21:50 < dreamind> hi hopelessOwl 21:50 < blindcoder> hi there 21:57 < dreamind> hi blindcoder 21:58 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uiver7r.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 < zenlunatic> what package/ports system does rock use? 21:58 < hopelessOwl> hi zenlunatic 21:58 < zenlunatic> Hello. 21:59 < zenlunatic> How does rock differ from ports in freebsd? 21:59 < blindcoder> ehm... well... completely 22:00 < zenlunatic> Oh. Not too much info on the site about the package/ports manager. 22:01 < blindcoder> In the simplest case a ROCK "package" consists of one .desc file 22:02 < tcr> zenlunatic: the fundamental concept is similiar, but the implementation differs 22:03 < zenlunatic> What language is it written in? 22:03 < tcr> Shell, that means bash 22:04 < zenlunatic> Understood. 22:04 < zenlunatic> .desc is a bash script? 22:04 < blindcoder> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/package/blindcoder/irssi/irssi.desc 22:04 < blindcoder> Here's an example 22:06 < zenlunatic> Looks like a .ebuild for Gentoo. 22:07 < blindcoder> never saw one of them 22:07 * tcr neither 22:08 < tcr> zenlunatic, but it's likely that ebuilds are essentially the same as the .desc + .conf files 22:11 < zenlunatic> https://gentoo.kems.net/gentoo-portage/net-irc/irssi/irssi-0.8.6-r4.ebuild 22:11 -!- jp [icechat@217-124-40-54.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:11 -!- jp [icechat@217-124-40-54.dialup.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has left #rocklinux () 22:13 < blindcoder> hmm... it has also the deps within the .ebuild file, so a part of our .cache file is within there... 22:13 < blindcoder> well, it's about the same 22:14 < blindcoder> buah, I can hardly keep my eyes open anymore >_< 22:14 < zenlunatic> Gentoo has something called USE variables where you can set universal compile options like USE -gtk to build stuff without GTK support (stuff that has two options, like fluxbox with gnome and not kde support). does rock have this/ 22:16 < SMP> zenlunatic: not in general. some packages offer individual config switches of this kind 22:19 < tcr> Well 22:21 < tcr> zenlunatic, it's right that a real infrastructure is missing for that kind of stuff, but it's possible to determine global flags to GNU configure (so you may be off with using --without-gtk and alike) 22:22 < SMP> it can be switched off reliably by not compiling gtk in the first place ;) 22:23 < zenlunatic> You guys could use Gentoo code. 22:24 < SMP> fundamental misunderstanding #1 when comparing ROCK and Gentoo: ROCK is not a 'source distribution' 22:25 < tcr> ack 22:26 < SMP> and I should have used 'misconception' in place of 'misunderstanding' 22:27 < tcr> zenlunatic, the thing you're mentioning is a very nifty feature but it's only a part of a bigger picture for a distribution build kit 22:41 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-157.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:51 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uiver7r.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit (Client Quit) 22:52 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA94B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 23:03 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uiver7r.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 23:32 < daja77> re 23:36 < daja77> rxr: you here 23:36 < daja77> ? 23:42 < Freak> hi da 23:42 < Freak> daja77 23:42 < Freak> (no nick completion here) 23:43 < daja77> hey Freak, what's up 23:43 < Freak> (that sucks if you're accustomed to it :) 23:43 < Freak> not much, watching "unbreakable" 23:43 < Freak> one of my favourite movies 23:43 < daja77> sounds like a coke bottle 23:44 < Freak> heh 23:44 < Freak> they had this slogan "unkaputtbar" for bonaqua once 23:44 < Freak> dont you know that movie? 23:44 < daja77> no 23:44 < Freak> you should see it 23:44 < daja77> *makingnote* 23:45 < Freak> and since you're already doing so: get "high fidelity", "grosse point blank" and "signs" as well. 23:46 < daja77> signs, no way 23:46 < Freak> why? 23:46 < Freak> noone ever understands that movie :) 23:46 < daja77> well ... 23:47 < Freak> its like with magnolia. noone understands why it rains frogs in the end. 23:47 < daja77> hmm dunno that 23:47 < Freak> thats why everybody keeps saying "geee this is weird!" 23:47 < Freak> but it isnt 23:48 < Freak> its perfectly easy :) 23:48 < daja77> it is freaky? 23:48 < Freak> its "sometimes something unbelieveable has to happen to clean up all the mess in one's life" 23:49 < Freak> you may s/unbelieveable/freaky 23:49 < daja77> like me getting mail from the woman I love 23:50 < Freak> probably :) --- Log closed Mon Oct 06 00:00:45 2003