--- Log opened Sat Oct 11 00:00:15 2003
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00:58 < esden> hi all
00:59 < daja77> hi esden 
01:11 < fake> boy
01:11 < fake> i hate weekends
01:11 < fake> g'evening
01:12 * fake thinking about removing the winxp on his laptop finally...
01:12 < daja77> hi fake
01:12 < Aard> huhu
01:12 < daja77> huhu Aard 
01:14 < fake> that would mean no bios updates from sony anymore, and no camera...
01:14 < fake> hi Aard 
01:14 < fake> hi daja77 ;)
01:14 * fake decided...
01:14 < fake> backuping.
01:23 * Aard is trying to find ps/2-ram with ecc in his room
01:24 < fake> Aard: look in the sparc stations ;)
01:30 < Aard> fake: what sparc stations?
01:43 < fake> Aard: none lying around?
01:44 < Aard> fake: 2 sparcstation ipc
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01:45 < Aard> both using simm
01:45 < Aard> s
01:50 < fake> oh.
01:50 < fake> i thought sparcstation 5 and above
01:52 < Aard> a sparcstation 10 will arrive soon
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01:59 * daja77 making note in calender: Aard was here
02:00 < Aard> daja77: I'm always here ;)
02:00 < daja77> but silent
02:01 < Aard> currently way too much to do
02:01 < daja77> ic
02:08 < Aard> narf. unable to get my rs6k over memtest / debugprompt
02:08 < Aard> with non-ecc ram
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02:13 < daja77> memtest for powerpc?
02:14 * daja77 goin to bed
02:15 < daja77> night you all
02:15 < esden> n8 daja77 
02:15 < Aard> problem is that it wants ram with ecc
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02:30 < mnemoc> re hi
02:31 < fake> hi mnemoc 
02:34 < mnemoc> hi fake
02:43 * fake bored
03:45 < esden> mnemoc: I have already asked you but I can not remember the answer ... which packages were failing in bootdisc target in your build?
03:45 < esden> re sbtw
03:45 < esden> ;)
03:45 < fake> hi esden
03:45 < esden> hi fake 
03:46 < mnemoc> esden: kiss, gzip, tar (stage 1)
03:46 < mnemoc> after tar's failure i aborted
03:46 < esden> humm they are building here ...
03:47 < esden> only iproute2 is failing but that is an error introduced by dietlibc update ...
03:47 < mnemoc> doh :(
03:47 < esden> but I will fix it soon ... do not worry
03:47 < mnemoc> i worry because i can't build it here :(
03:48 < mnemoc> do you want a shell? ;)
03:48 * fake 'd like a beer
03:49 < esden> fake: then take one
03:50 < esden> mnemoc: no ... I will send the patches in and you try once more ... then we can reconsider that shell once more ;)
03:50 < mnemoc> ok, i'll wait
03:52 * fake watching mistery science theatre 3000 - the killer bees
03:52 < fake> (rofl)
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04:31 < fake>  /me takes a beer from esden
04:32 < esden> you pole ...
04:32 < fake> i learnt it from you ;)
04:32 < esden> :P
04:33 * -> esden watching a report about otaku and manga/anime on vox ... very interesting ;){
04:33 * fake lmao to this mst3k episode
04:34 < esden> ?
04:34 < fake> i could have imagined you can't remember mistery science theatre 3000 
04:35 < esden> I do remember it ...
04:35 < fake> hehe. wonder ;)
04:35 < esden> ahh mst3k is misery science theatre 300
04:35 < esden> 0
04:35 < fake> jep.
04:35 < esden> I did not realize it ...
04:36 < fake> get some sleep!
04:37 < fake> "a popstar afraid of a needle... come oooon..." *ROFL*
04:37 < esden> hehe
04:43 < fake> i'll throw myself away soon
05:17 < fake> this is so damn funny
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08:12 < owl> hi
08:20 < A-Tui> hi owl
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08:52 < netrunner> moin
08:53 < A-Tui> hi netrunner
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09:46 < blindcoder> moin moin
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15:47 < netrunner> hm ... anyone also experienced in a recent build that no packages are selected when using "full install"?
15:51 < tcr> moin all
15:51 * tcr is just preparing a new build
15:54 * netrunner reinstalls rock on his laptop. for some unknown reason disk access was sloooooow ... currently I suspect a bad partition table.
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16:45 < esden> hi all
16:46 < esden> does anyone of you know where /dev/initctl comes from?
16:46 < esden> it seems that it is not a kernel thingy
16:48 < esden> hmm ... ok that is sysvinit
16:48 < esden> but why is it not existant in dietlibc target ... grummel
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17:31 < owl> hi
17:31 < mnemoc> hi HappyNickCollision
17:32 < owl> .oO(better than THC)
17:32 < owl> how are you, mnemoc ?
17:32 < mnemoc> preatty good ;) and you?
17:32 < owl> quite well, thx ;)
17:33 < mnemoc> preaaty?? <--- wtf is that?
17:34 < mnemoc> how is your training?
17:34 < owl> mnemoc: like sh**. thx. but the horse-riding-training is getting better and better and better ;))))
17:36 < mnemoc> do you still have all your tooth?
17:39 < owl> mnemoc: sure ;P i'm _still_ riding only dressage... (no showjumping and/or military-riding, till now) ;)
17:42 < mnemoc> not yet
17:42 < owl> .oO( mnemoc is speechless? )
17:42 < owl> hm? speechlesss <- not yet?
17:44 < mnemoc> :(
17:44 < owl> hm?
17:44 < mnemoc> today is not a good day for my english :(
17:45 < mnemoc> i can flood you with talking about horses, but in spanish ;)
17:47 < owl> :P doesn't matter (your english)
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18:07 < owl> hi zen 
18:10 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,269409,00.html << WEE! it doesn't matter, if the terrestrical radioactivity is increasing. wow. i'm sooo amused
18:18 < esden> mv owl #politics
18:18 < esden> ;)
18:18 < owl> esden: nah, mv owl #allgemeinbildung
18:18 < owl> hi btw
18:20 < esden> hi owl 
18:20 < esden> humm .. politics is nothing one should know more then nothing about ;)
18:21 < owl> *cough* politics is something what might will change your life. e.g. (extreme form), if there would be anarchy, or dictatur or so...
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18:23 < esden> hmm ... I have you to inform me about a thing that might afect me in a hard way ... so I do not have to worry ;)
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18:25 < owl> esden: blllllllll :pppp 
18:25 < owl> hi trekkie3k 
18:25 < trekkie3k> hi
18:25 < esden> hi trekkie3k 
18:25 < esden> owl: *hug* :P
18:25 < trekkie3k> oO(bll ?)
18:25 < owl> esden: *kick* this is reserved for someone special ;p
18:26 < owl> trekkie3k: yes blll :p
18:26 < esden> owl: :P *hug*
18:26 * trekkie3k doesn't understand
18:26 < trekkie3k> :D
18:27 < owl> trekkie3k: don't mind
18:27 < esden> trekkie3k: there is nothing to be understood
18:27 < trekkie3k> k then ;)
18:27 < owl> esden: *kick* (for the *hug*)
18:28 < owl> and *kick* from true, too ;p
18:28 * netrunner is *knuddeling* esden heftigstly.
18:28 < trekkie3k> hehe
18:28 < mnemoc> o_O
18:28 < owl> omfg. *lol*
18:28 < owl> .oO( poor esden )
18:29 < esden> aaaargh HEEEEELP
18:29 < owl> hihi ;p
18:29 * netrunner frowns at esden
18:29 * -> esden dies (that means no more dietlibc patches :P )
18:29 < netrunner> what a relief
18:30 < esden> *wheep* netrunner you are mean
18:30 * -> esden hungry
18:30 < netrunner> esden: hey, you are dead!
18:30 < esden> hmm ... I think I cook something
18:30 * netrunner annoyed
18:30 < netrunner> esden: but eat it allone ;)
18:31 < netrunner> so, finished. cul8ter
18:33 < esden> good spagetti with pesto rosso
18:33 < esden> mnjam mnjam ;)
18:34 * mnemoc don't like pesto 
18:34 < esden> I love pesto
18:34 < esden> why don't you like it mnemoc 
18:34 < mnemoc> what happened to rene? did he dies?
18:35 < owl> pesto??? pest?
18:35 < mnemoc> pesto
18:36 < mnemoc> don't know, i prefer butter
18:36 < esden> owl: pesto ... I did not know that form of spagetti sauce for long time ... it is prette new for me ...
18:36 < esden> and I love it
18:36 < owl> butwhat is it?
18:37 < mnemoc> pesto=green sth, pesto rosso=res sth that tastes like green sth
18:37 < mnemoc> s/res/red/
18:38 < owl> O_o 
18:38 < owl> ok. thx
18:39 < esden> that is olive oil with lots of spice in it 
18:39 < esden> that is pesto
18:39 < owl> *wuerg*
18:40 < owl> thx... wuaeh
18:40 < esden> argh ... you really do not know what is good :P
18:42 < mnemoc> http://www.pesto.net/e_welcome.html <--- upper-left
18:42 < owl> i know ;p (what is good)
18:42 < mnemoc> isn't it like shit? ;)
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18:46 < esden> I do not talk with you philistines
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18:46 < mnemoc> :)
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19:04 * owl looks and reads the strange religion-sheets /me got at school ans laughs her ass off
19:05 < trekkie3k> hehe, yes, that's all sick stuff ;)
19:06 < owl> trekkie3k: sure, especially if you have to learn about the "sense of life" - just "roflig" -- 
19:06 < trekkie3k> hehehe :D
19:08 < owl> v.e. frankl means: "the sense of existence is not only to do _selbstverwirklichung_ and _selbsterfuellung_. [...]. if you're loving someone and/or if you're doing a service, you're "erfuellen" yourself. you can be only yourself, when you're forgetting yourself and don't see yourself" *ROTFL*
19:10 < trekkie3k> Wow, so I have to forget myself? That's *really* not easy!
19:10 < owl> trekkie3k: sure you have. you know. you're _not existent_ everything is just an illusion. *cough*
19:11 < trekkie3k> Listens like Serial Experiments Lain :D - If no one knows about you, you don't exist.
19:12 < owl> :p heh, there are no humans out there!
19:12 < owl> kewl. might i should go out and have a walk or so, because there is nobody. they're just fakes/illusions/programs? O_o
19:13 < trekkie3k> yep, somehow.. like this :D
19:16 < owl> muhahahahahaha. reading in a psychological "tagungsbericht": "sense is just a existent realit, which is not beweisbar, but which can just be seen and erfahren werden, if the person wants to see it" -> if you can tell yourself lies, you can see a sense in life. kewl to know.
19:16 < trekkie3k> oOo_OoO
19:17 < owl> trekkie3k: ?#
19:17 < trekkie3k> It's a mutant O_o
19:17 < owl> .oO( i want some of the drugs the guys got, too... might i will see the brown wooden-walls not as brown, but as pink or so. *rotfl*)
19:17 < owl> who is a mutant?
19:19 < trekkie3k> mutant - mutation ..don't understand?
19:19 < owl> i understand... but what exactly...? 
19:20 < trekkie3k> It's nothing specific
19:20 < owl> oki
19:22 < mnemoc> you need beers :|
19:22 < trekkie3k> ?
19:23 < owl> mnemoc: why beer?
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19:24 < owl> muhahahahahahahahahahahaha. when the people believed in god, they didn't ask as much as they do, when they don't believe in a god and so...
19:25 < mnemoc> much asking can lead you to don't believe
19:25 < trekkie3k> Not really surprising :)
19:25 < owl> mnemoc: sure. ;)
19:27 < owl> but it's fascinating, people who believe in a "higher person" are often more happy than non-believers. and if they feel sad or so, they're praying and stuff... and feel better and so... --> HOW TO: lie to yourselfe
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19:31 < blindcoder> *yawn* hi all
19:33 < owl> hi blindy
19:33 < blindcoder> MSSQL sucks
19:35 < mnemoc> mysql is worst ;)
19:35 < blindcoder> Well, I'm currently porting an app from My to MS
19:37 < owl> O_o mssql? you? blindy, have you fever?
19:38 < blindcoder> no
19:38 < blindcoder> project-specification...
19:38 < owl> sure???
19:38 < blindcoder> and as usual those change at the end of the project
19:38 < owl> i c
19:40 < blindcoder> Well, at least the SQL-Syntax is similar
19:40 < owl> jup
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21:13 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,269438,00.html
21:15 < iBook> owl: :-(
21:22 < owl> iBook: ???
21:22 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,269410,00.html
21:22 < owl> <-- knows the perfect idea for a new company: "schnapshersteller"
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21:31 < blindcoder> well, nothing like a night not remembered
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21:31 < owl> blindcoder: again?!?
21:33 < owl> .oO(i want money, money, money...) *gnarf*
21:33 < blindcoder> Nothing like a night not remembered.
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21:35 < blindcoder> Lain... haven't watched it in a looong time
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21:37 < [anders]> *grumble*
21:38 < blindcoder> *grumble* *mumble* *grmpf* *hmpf*
21:39 < owl> *grml**mumble**grumble**hrmpf**hypf**grpf**argl* :p
21:39 < blindcoder> owl: :PPPPPP
21:39 < owl> blindcoder: :ppppppppppppp
21:40 < trekkie3k> :D
21:40 < owl> hi [anders] btw, how are you?
21:40 < blindcoder> owl: nice tongue, but please don't show me if you don't intend to use it,.
21:40 < [anders]> owl: i'm fine thanks. you?
21:40 < owl> blindcoder: *har* might use it, but not with you or so *vbeg*
21:40 < blindcoder> :(
21:41 < owl> [anders]: good, thx.
21:41 < owl> (like every saturday, and wednesday (if not @ work) and often sunday)
21:41 < owl> blindcoder: don't look like that
21:42 < owl> .oO(i can't see men crying *vbeg*)
21:42 < blindcoder>  then look the other way
21:42 < owl> nah.
21:42 * owl kicks blindcoder till he is rofling on the floor
21:43 < blindcoder> break a leg
21:43 < owl> wuah. might you will "verklagen" /me?
21:44 < blindcoder> nah, just leave it that way until it kills me
21:44 < owl> no chance. a broken leg doesn't kill. it just "wachst schief zusammen"
21:44 < blindcoder> only if treated
21:45 < owl> s/wachst/waechst/ *looking innocently on /me's zeh*
21:45 < owl> blindcoder: *kick*
21:46 * [anders] thinks things have gotten very hostile in here... wonder if the mailing list is rubbing off on the IRC channel
21:47 * [anders] puts owl over the knee and give her a well deserved spanking for kicking off blindcoders leg
21:47 < daja77> O_o
21:48 < owl> [anders]: *kick* :p guess i'm even taller than you, so you would have to catch me first and so :p
21:48 < [anders]> owl: and how tall are you then?
21:48 < daja77> wtf is goin on here
21:48 < [anders]> daja77: just a little friendly banter...
21:48 < daja77> ok go on then
21:48 < [anders]> :)
21:49 < [anders]> owl: I'm 180 tall.. you beat that?
21:49 < owl> [anders]: 180, too. 
21:49 < daja77> owls are small and fat
21:49 * daja77 hides
21:49 < owl> daja77: *kick* fat - yes, small - no
21:50 < [anders]> owl: so I can quite probably manhandle you.. I do not think you are heavier than me, so I have an advantage there..
21:50 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... i don't think so
21:50 < daja77> huge owls scare me
21:51 < [anders]> owl: then we disagree until we can settle the issue in person. :)
21:51 < owl> daja77: *har* why?
21:51 < daja77> do not forget to make pics
21:51 < [anders]> daja77: *LOOOL*
21:53 < owl> daja77: huh?
21:53 < owl> why pics?
21:53 < [anders]> there is one type of owl that I'd have plenty of respect for.. 'Berg Uv' we call it in Sweden, about 70cm tall when it just sits there, and a wingspan of about 160-180 cm .. biiig owl..
21:54 < [anders]> owl: of you getting your ass spanked..
21:54 < [anders]> i guess daja77 would like to see that.. ;-)
21:54 < owl> [anders]: *har* will never happen
21:54 < daja77> exactly
21:54 < owl> daja77: *kick*
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21:55 < [anders]> owl: that is what you think.. ;-)
21:55 < daja77> well i would like to see [anders] beaten up by owl as well
21:55 < daja77> if there is enough violence in it it will be ok for me
21:56 < [anders]> daja77: I am sure owl and I can come to an agreement.. we could perhaps arrange for both sets of pictures for your extensive collection... ;-)
21:56 < daja77> hehehe
21:56 < [anders]> joke aside.. how is rock linux getting on..
21:57 < daja77> <- doin trunk build right now, let's see
21:57 < daja77> 992 builds total, 465 completed fine, 18 with errors
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21:58 < [anders]> humma.. /me is contemplating getting another 512MB RAM for the shuttle.. need more RAM.. running Xnap takes up half a gig.. :(
21:58 < daja77> Xnap?
21:58 < [anders]> daja77: a p2p program written in java.. http://xnap.sourceforge.net  iirc..
21:59 < daja77> think java is to blame
22:00 < [anders]> daja77: I think so too..
22:00 < owl> Aard: are you here?
22:00 < daja77> hehe he said he is always here ...
22:01 < Aard> owl: no
22:01 < mnemoc> what happened to rxr? did he dies?
22:01 < [anders]> mnemoc: no, he just took a vacation in the bitbucket.. ;-)
22:02 < [anders]> dunno actually.. I saw him a week or two ago.. spoke to him as well..
22:02 < [anders]> on here that is.
22:02 < daja77> he has to do lots of work to do i guess
22:02 < daja77> d'oh can't type
22:03 < mnemoc> so it's a rockless vacation and not a computerless vacation
22:03 < daja77> guess so
22:03 < daja77> a bit like me
22:04 < mnemoc> u still here
22:05 < daja77> a few moments yes, but haven't done a bit for rock for some days
22:09 < mnemoc> did u finish your rtai stuff?
22:10 < daja77> nope
22:11 < daja77> have to manually modifiy kernel patches, couldn't do this on friday, felt week
22:11 < daja77> and still bein sick a bit
22:17 < owl> daja77: get on well soon
22:18 < daja77> thx trying to :)
22:23 < mnemoc> can someone _share_ a bootdisk iso with me? :(
22:23 < daja77> d'oh removed mine
22:24 < mnemoc> or a tar.bz2 of builddir
22:25 < daja77> you could check out a rc1 and build this bootdisk and use that
22:25 < mnemoc> isn't too buggy?
22:26 < daja77> bootdisk was ok iirc
22:28 < mnemoc> whats rc1+fixes?
22:29 < daja77> powerpc fixes iirc
22:30 < mnemoc> checking out rc1 ;) ... i din't saw that 'option' ;)
22:31 < daja77> np
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22:32 < daja77> mnemoc: to be honest it is sort of sad to have to do this :)
22:33 < mnemoc> =(
22:33 < daja77> but it proves how good the rock modularity is :)
22:35 < mnemoc> we need a 'why rock is better that $foo' web page
22:36 < daja77> you want me back hehe
22:36 < mnemoc> =)
22:38 < mnemoc> i also want anyone to reply a post of mine :(
22:46 < daja77> guess i should read it before :)
22:47 < mnemoc> that's optional
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23:29 < [Birdie]> hello!
23:29 -!- owl [~knoppix@D7020.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:29 < [Birdie]> hi owl
23:29 < owl> hi [Birdie] 
23:29 < [Birdie]> do you know how to create a channel?
23:29 < owl> www.freenode.net
23:30 < [Birdie]> ok
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23:38 * netrunne1 now knows why his laptop went so slow, that hd doesn't like talking dma to my bios :(
23:38 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
23:39 < owl> huh? hi netrunner 
23:39 < netrunner> hi owl 
23:39 * owl eating coke-traubenzucker. someone else want one?
23:40 < owl> netrunner: maybe? or better: your notebook? *vbeg*
23:41 * netrunner *kicks* owl
23:41 * netrunner walks over to the tv
23:42 < owl> netrunner: hihi ;p *rekick*
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23:56 * fake kicks hannes
23:56 < owl> hi fake 
23:56 < owl> .oO(did he shoot some server?)
23:56 < fake> hi owl
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