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--- Log opened Tue Oct 14 00:00:37 2003
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02:54 < esden> humm ... to get rocklinux usable in uml I need to invest pretty much of work >_<
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02:55 < esden> humm ... to get rocklinux usable in uml I need to invest pretty much of work >_<
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03:05 < SMP> esden: why?
03:08 < mnemoc> esden: i have a patch for that
03:08 < esden> because I need _one_ disc for installation in uml
03:08 < esden> and we have that multidisc system
03:09 < esden> and I have not tryed to (but I do not think that is possible) boot from an iso
03:09 < esden> or have I missed something?
03:09 < SMP> boot from iso?
03:10 < esden> yes a installcd
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03:10 < esden> I would like to install in the uml like from a normal _DVD_ or so
03:10 < SMP> just loop-mount the guest's filesystems, install onto it, then boot them in uml
03:11 < esden> yes ... that is also a solution ... but that is not really something I would describe as clean
03:11 < esden> or nice
03:12 < SMP> well booting an uml with basically a 2nd-stage fs image should do it
03:13 < esden> it is bootable? o_O
03:14 < SMP> it is supposed to be the root fs for the install, so that would mean 'yes'
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03:18 < esden> yes you are right ... but it would be nice if the bootdisc target would also (by demand) create a big image for booting an installation in uml. Don't you think?
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03:19 < SMP> esden: I agree
03:21 < th> nacht leute...
03:22 < esden> n8 th 
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03:52 < esden> my god ... I am so terribly stupid that it is not possible to be even more stupid
03:53 < __mnemoc> full ack
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03:59 < esden> thanks __mnemoc 
04:01 < esden> hmm nice ncurses is now building cleanly in generic build 
04:01 < __mnemoc> how? removing rm?
04:01 < esden> no the patch from dimitar
04:03 < __mnemoc> will rene came back?
04:10 < esden> some day for sure
04:10 < esden> he has bit of personal things that prevent him from working on rock at the moment
04:13 < __mnemoc> can't you get write access ;)
04:17 < esden> I do not want one ;)
04:21 < __mnemoc> esden: yesterday i couldn't read your explenation about why i can't -I/usr/dietlibc/include all dietlibc progs. can you repeat it?
04:21 < __mnemoc> pleeeeease
04:22 < __mnemoc> we had a 'power failure'? all the night
04:37 < esden> ohh that is bad
04:38 < esden> you can use it but it may provide unexpected problems
04:38 < esden> when there is an other library like glibc installed
04:38 < esden> it would search in glibc before dietlibc that would provide errors
04:39 < esden> you should test it deeply
04:40 < __mnemoc> after i added it kiss compiles but gzip and tar falled because errno
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04:40 < mnmoec> mmm
04:40 -!- mnmoec is now known as mnemoc
04:41 < esden> it may fix the problem for a moment but later you should fix it correctly
04:41 < esden> I really can not understand your problems ... it is all working perfectly here
04:41 < esden> I can send you my dietlibc patches
04:41 < mnemoc> ok
04:42 < esden> but they are not yet 100% that is why I do not send them to the mailinglist
04:42 < mnemoc> 100% tested or 100% usables?
04:45 < esden> 100% tested 
04:45 < esden> and also not 100% usable
04:46 < esden> that are runtime problems
04:46 < esden> still a lot of them
04:46 < esden> and some missing packages
04:46 < esden> and still to be fixed iproute2 
04:46 < mnemoc> can you run a bootdisk?
04:46 < esden> yes
04:46 < mnemoc> that's good enough for me today :)
04:47 < esden> with some more tweaks because of the failing iproute2
04:47 < mnemoc> is iproute2 called always or just when you ask for network installation?
04:49 < esden> no when the discs are created ip is being copied ...
04:49 < esden> and that makes the bootdisc creation fail
04:49 < esden> but it is easy to fix
04:49 < esden> simply remove that from the bootdisc creation scripts 
04:50 < mnemoc> a.a... ok... i tought runtime-errors ;)
04:50 < mnemoc> kernel-panic and it's friends
04:51 < esden> nono that is not happening
04:55 < mnemoc> i'm waiting for the patches :)
04:56 < esden> email addr?
04:57 < esden> ahh good uml installing!!!
04:57 < esden> weeho!
05:08 < mnemoc> patchset received... thanks :)
05:12 < esden> de nada
05:13 < esden> I hope it helps
05:13 < esden> there are also some other fixes ... so do not be shocked
05:28 < mnemoc> ;)
05:32 < esden> ok now stone should install in the right directory ... *sigh*
07:02 < esden> what? what is xfree doing in console only installation?!
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07:55 < Mike1> moin all.
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08:21 < Mike1> nookie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:54 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:56 < mnemoc> moin 
09:57 < Mike1> moin Blindy und Ale :)
09:58 < mnemoc> :)
09:58 < Mike1> Ale que rayos haces levantadoa  esta hora?
09:59 < Mike1> Ale que rayos haces levantado a esta hora?*
10:01 < mnemoc> no se :-\
10:01 < blindcoder> moin mike!
10:01 < mnemoc> y usted?
10:02 < Mike1> adivina..
10:02 < Mike1> blindcoder: Wie geht es dir mein freund?
10:02 < mnemoc> coding? ;)
10:02 < Mike1> mnemoc: yes..
10:05 < blindcoder> Mike1: oh well, I'm alive, and on paid extra-vacation, so I guess I can't complain
10:05 < Mike1> blindcoder: nice :), how about ur Jap classes?
10:06 < blindcoder> third lesson today, going quite well
10:06 < Mike1> glad to hear :)
10:06 < Mike1> so tell us something in jap :)
10:07 < blindcoder> We haven't learned much yet...
10:07 < Mike1> ah i see
10:07 < blindcoder> Hajimemashite. Schieder Benjamin desu. Douzo yoroshiku. (formal introduction)
10:07 < Mike1> blindcoder: i guess the basics.. :) how do i say "hi" and "how are you" ?
10:08 < Mike1> hehe nice
10:09 < blindcoder> Name suffixes -san and -sensei and greetings according to time of day (Ohayo, Konnichi wa, Konban wa)
10:09 < Mike1> what a pain..
10:09 < Mike1> but i guess is fun
10:10 < blindcoder> it's funny at the very least :)
10:15 < Mike1> hehe
10:15 < Mike1> ask mnemoc to teach you spanish :)
10:17 < blindcoder> nah, one language at a time :)
10:24 < Mike1> okis :) 
10:25 * Mike1 .o0( I wonder if you would say the same if it was one of this gorgeous hispanic girls the one to teach you...)
10:26 < blindcoder> definately no
10:27 < blindcoder> (no == the answer)
10:27 < Mike1> haha i knew it :)
10:33 < blindcoder> damn stupid parents
10:33 < blindcoder> anyone knows what a .DCX file is?
10:34 < blindcoder> brb
10:39 < blindcoder> back
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11:39 < daja77> moin
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11:44 < Mike1> hi daja77
11:45 < daja77> hi Miguel
11:46 < Mike1> daja77: query
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11:46 < Mike1> [anders]: hallo
11:46 < [anders]> lo Mike1
11:46 < Mike1> [anders]: great to see you :)
11:47 < [anders]> heh.. good to see you too.
11:47 < [anders]> I am not feeling very well though..
11:47 < [anders]> on antibiotics again.
11:47 < Mike1> huh? why?
11:47 < Mike1> dying?
11:50 < [anders]> nah.. bad cold again
11:50 < [anders]> so been given antibiotics to sort out the infection
11:50 < Mike1> oh man... i'm very sorry to hear that
11:51 < [anders]> Not to worry too much.. I hope it just sort itself out.. Bit hard sleeping at the moment though..
11:52 < Mike1> i can imagine.. colds hit you just as hard as they hit me.. 
11:56 < [anders]> yeh..
11:56 < [anders]> hepp.. just got mentioned on Sky News.. :)
11:57 < [anders]> sent them a comment about the football game between England and Turkey, and they just read it up.. :)
11:58 < Mike1> cool! :)
11:59 < Mike1> can i have ur autograph? *g*
11:59 < [anders]> *lol*
11:59 < Mike1> well something had to be good in all that antibiotics hell don't you think?
12:00 < [anders]> yeh.. at the moment I feel woozy and tired.. had a hard time sleeping last night as the throat was so sore.
12:01 < daja77> [anders]: hi, /me is a bit sick too :)
12:01 < Mike1> this time of the year many people gets sick
12:02 < daja77> this is why you are missing here :))
12:02 < daja77> s/why/because of
12:02 < Mike1> daja77: how do you mean?
12:04 < daja77> you, from a sunshine nation :))
12:04 < Mike1> lol :)
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12:37 < jsaw_> re
12:48 * Mike1 happy using his new 52x cd wr :)
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14:10 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
14:21 < netrunne1> hihihi
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14:29 < nookie> Mike1! :)
14:39 < rolla> re
14:44 < rolla> https://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7564044%255E1702,00.html
14:44 < rolla> crazy
14:49 < Mike1> rolla: 
14:52 < rolla> Mike1: 
15:03 < esden> hi all
15:03 < rolla> re esden
15:03 < esden> blindcoder: mail sent
15:05 < Mike1> hello esden
15:07 < mnemoc> esden: same error :( ... can be because of X gcc33?
15:08 * Mike1 enjoying Bit Torrent
15:08 < mnemoc> a game?
15:08 < Mike1> LOL no
15:09 < blindcoder> esden: thanks
15:09 < mnemoc> sounds like one ;)
15:09 < Mike1> think of it as a really advanced peer to peer program
15:09 < blindcoder> esden: I'll be mounting apollo_new together during today or tomorrow.
15:09 < Mike1> mnemoc: www.btfaq.com <- that will help you understand :)
15:11 < mnemoc> bit-torrent.org was not friendly
15:12 < blindcoder> esden: did you forget one? I have 00-10 and 12, no 11
15:13 < Mike1> guess not :)
15:15 < esden> ?
15:15 < Mike1> MPET!
15:16 < esden> no you have all
15:16 < esden> I had to remove that patch
15:16 < esden> hi Mike1 !
15:16 < esden> mnemoc: yes can be
15:17 < esden> blindcoder: good
15:17 < esden> blindcoder: I have a ready build here
15:17 < esden> blindcoder: so you have not to build that by yourself
15:17 < esden> blindcoder: we need only minimal for installation, I have it here
15:19 < daja77> re
15:21 < esden> hi daja77 
15:21 < daja77> hey esden :)
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15:24 < Mike1> pf
15:26 < daja77> Mike1: don't make jokes about Lorini's name :-ppp
15:29 < esden> o_O
15:29 < Lorini> hi
15:29 < esden> hi Lorini 
15:30 < Mike1> hi Lorini
15:30 * Mike1 hist daja77
15:30 < Mike1> anyways i am off to bed now.
15:31 < Mike1> cu later
15:31 < esden> n8 Mike1 
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15:34 < esden> what is a .DCX file?
15:34 < esden> blindcoder says that everyone knows that ... I do not
15:36 < mnemoc> https://www.telcomfax.com/support/tfcug/mgrDCX_File.html
15:39 < blindcoder> esden I don't know either...
15:39 < mnemoc> google knows
15:40 < blindcoder> esden: so I don't need to build that dietlibc thing myself?
15:40 < esden> I have both here
15:41 < esden> the generic build for apollo
15:41 < esden> and dietlibc build for your laptop
15:41 < blindcoder> esden: okay. So take them with you tomorrow :)
15:41 < blindcoder> apollo == P3
15:41 < esden> urm ... ok ...
15:41 < esden> I restart the build with the right optimalisation ...
15:41 * -> esden stupid
15:41 < blindcoder> Okay, /me building it here :)
15:43 * -> esden building here too :P
15:43 < esden> we can then compare them 
15:43 < esden> if one fails or is bad we can use the other one
15:43 < blindcoder> generic build?
15:44 < esden> generic with minimalistic template
15:44 < esden> and p3 optimalisation
15:44 < daja77> oh
15:45 < esden> ok ... I am off for uni
15:45 < blindcoder> X sendmail
15:46 < mnemoc> esden: same error without -I, and same error with it :(
15:46 < esden> mnemoc: try a usable gcc namely gcc-3
15:47 < mnemoc> i just start one with that _deprecated_ compiler
15:50 * mnemoc leaving... cu ppl
15:50 < esden> blindcoder: X sendmail X vim X php X apache X subversion the others can be added through Emerge-Pkg ;)
15:50 < esden> ok ... but for now I am off
15:50 < esden> cu
15:54 < rolla> mod_perl is going to drive me nuts
15:55 < daja77> hehe rolla coming with a curse
15:55 < daja77> welcome rolla
15:55 < rolla> thanks I guess
15:55 < daja77> :)
15:55 < esden> hmm ... I will have to build php by myself ... >_<
15:55 < esden> and I will need inn ... *sigh*
15:56 < daja77> mkpkg will be your friend
15:56 < esden> yes I know
15:56 < daja77> :))
15:57 < blindcoder> php hand build? innd? why?
15:58 < rolla> :(
15:59 < mnemoc> rolla: mod_perl+apache2?
15:59 < rolla> yes
15:59 < rolla> but on solaris 7
15:59 < mnemoc> ufff
15:59 < rolla> Cannot load /usr/lib/mod_perl.so into server: ld.so.1: /opt/apache2/bin/httpd: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/mod_perl.so: symbol __muldi3: referenced symbol not found
15:59 < rolla> :)
15:59 < daja77> why such an old sloaris
15:59 < rolla> cause daja77. Just cause
16:00 < daja77> hehe
16:00 < daja77> poor rolla 
16:00 < rolla> and now prod websites are down till I get it fixed
16:00 < daja77> *cough* sounds like self caused problems, but what do i know
16:01 < rolla> very true what do you know
16:01 < rolla> damn project
16:01 * daja77 gives rolla a cookie ... and a beer
16:01 < rolla> thanks
16:02 < daja77> np :)
16:13 < daja77> 16:12 < safedin> !daja77
16:13 < daja77> 16:12 < JMoTux> <daja77>You should all be using Rock Linux...</daja77>
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16:38 < esden> blindcoder: we need the same version of php with the same modules as on old apollo to get bchat running ...
16:38 < blindcoder> hmm... we'll see...
16:38 < esden> and inn is needed because I want to create a news server for rocklinux ... but that needs discussion with the leading of bingo first
16:39 < blindcoder> why not use the inn we already have?
16:39 < esden> that is why I need to talk to the leading if I can do that on the already running inn ... 
16:40 < esden> because we need a connector to the mailinglists
16:40 < blindcoder> as soon as Hannes set it up
16:40 < esden> blindcoder: that will never happen ;)
16:41 < esden> that is why I consider setting it up by myself ... then I have all freedom I can have
16:41 < esden> and we can bind news.rocklinux.org on apollo and set up a uml for it ... that would make it a extra machine
16:42 < esden> I think that is cleaner then setting it up on the running inn ...
16:44 < blindcoder> well, if it ran on the ekisting innd it would be less to have to care for
16:45 < esden> yes that is right
16:46 < esden> but if I saw it correctly till now the mailinglist connector is pretty intrusive and I do not want to crash the main inn by accident
16:46 < esden> and the main inn is pretty complex ... that would mean that I need to learn much more then on the simple setup for rocklinux purposes
16:46 < blindcoder> hmmm
16:47 < blindcoder> first we should have the machine running, then we'll see
16:47 < esden> full ack
16:48 < blindcoder> then we'll have to check on hard-disk-usage per UML
16:48 < esden> yes that is correct too
16:48 < blindcoder> I'm not very keen on wasting 3 GB for a 200 MB MySQL
16:48 < esden> I think we will use one filesystem image file for all uml and a shadow file 
16:49 < blindcoder> mhm
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16:49 < blindcoder> and we have to think about access to the machine
16:49 < esden> I do not want to run every service in one uml!
16:49 < esden> blindcoder: yes that is right too
16:50 < esden> I have made thoughts about that
16:50 < esden> it is doable ;)
16:50 < blindcoder> I've been... encouraged to limit root-access to two people. You and me.
16:50 < esden> blindcoder: yes that is ok 
16:50 < blindcoder> and we need one UML for shell-server
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16:52 < esden> blindcoder: yes that will be there for sure
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16:54 < blindcoder> okay, second We-want-a-IP-Address-mail sent
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16:58 < esden> ??? explain ...
17:00 < esden> ok ... umld will be our friend ...
17:03 < blindcoder> umld?
17:03 < blindcoder> bchat.sql dump: 18 MB >_<
17:04 < esden> ?
17:04 < esden> umld is a webinterface for managing uml hosts
17:04 < blindcoder> i c
17:04 < esden> I think that will make it easier to manage the machines
17:04 < blindcoder> yes
17:06 < tcr> moin all
17:06 < esden> hi tcr 
17:07 < tcr> cchamilt, there? (if I don't answer immediately, wait a bit as I'm currently reading mails)
17:07 < tcr> moin esden
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17:23 < nookie_> gn8? o_O
17:23 < nookie_> err, sorry
17:23 < tcr> hi [anders]
17:24 < nookie_> Hi tcr 
17:24 < tcr> hi nookie
17:34 < blindcoder> esden: we can use current php and apache
17:34 < blindcoder> esden: see bchat.homeip.net
17:46 < blindcoder> esden: PING
17:46 < esden> humm
17:46 < esden> is it your box?
17:46 < esden> it seems to work ... yes
17:47 < esden> I was sure that it is not ... at least fake convinced me of that ... 
17:47 < esden> strange
17:47 < blindcoder> esden: where did the stats go!??!?
17:47 < blindcoder> bchat.bingo-ev.de/stats/mars_1.html
17:47 < blindcoder> ??
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17:48 < blindcoder> there's a whole year of stats missing!
17:48 < blindcoder> well, it works like a charm here...
17:50 < esden> good ok
17:50 < blindcoder> esden: where are the stats?!
17:50 < blindcoder> did someone do a find / -name '*log' -exec rm -f {} \; or what?
17:50 < esden> what you are looking for exactly
17:51 < esden> how are that stats generated ... I do not know that 
17:51 < blindcoder> see https://bchat.bingo-ev.de/stats/mars_1.html
17:51 < blindcoder> last image
17:51 < esden> yes I have seen that
17:51 < blindcoder> and there are about 12 months missing
17:52 < esden> if I do not know what data is needed for generation of them then I can not answer you the question
17:52 < esden> I have dumped the logs of bchat some time ago
17:52 < blindcoder> so, did anyone delete everything that ended in .log?
17:52 < esden> and removed them from the mysql
17:52 < esden> the dump has to lay around somewhere
17:52 < esden> ahh that log
17:52 < blindcoder> the file /usr/local/mrtg/htdocs/bchat/mars_1.log is needed
17:53 < esden> not that I know of ...
17:53 < esden> I have not removed that
17:53 < esden> perhups fake or netcrow or someone to free some space on the disc
17:54 < esden> but do not worry ... I have a backup of apollo on tape at home .. perhups it is there
17:54 < esden> in the original form
17:55 < blindcoder> I'll write a mail to chatmastur
17:55 < blindcoder> s/ur/er/
17:55 < esden> ok
17:57 < esden> :Q
18:01 < esden> re
18:03 < blindcoder> that was fast
18:04 < esden> 4 minutes are enough
18:04 < blindcoder> hehe
18:06 < blindcoder> hrm...
18:06 < blindcoder> sed: can't read /usr/src/trunk/src.glibc23.1066154713.2612.1238624237/glibc-2.3.2/objdir/tcb-offsets.h.dT: No such file or directory
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18:09 < esden> blindcoder: which stage?
18:09 < blindcoder> 1
18:10 < esden> it works here ...
18:16 < blindcoder> svn HEAD?
18:17 < blindcoder> okay, I'll leave it at that
18:18 < blindcoder> my clock is off 13 minutes >_<
18:19 < esden> o_O
18:19 < esden> yes svn head
18:19 < blindcoder> hmm... strange
18:20 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:56:42)
18:20 < esden> +dimitar sys lib patch
18:20 < esden> and the dietlibc patches of mine ...
18:20 < esden> re A-Tui 
18:21 < A-Tui> re esden
18:22 < blindcoder> doesn't apply here
18:23 < blindcoder> three hunks failed
18:23 < blindcoder> ah, I'll have lunch now
18:23 < blindcoder> bbl
18:23 < blindcoder> s/lunch/dinner/
18:27 < esden> bon apetitt
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18:50 * -> esden home
18:50 < rolla> re
19:21 < esden> re
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19:45 < daja77> re
19:52 < tcr> hey daja77, wassup
19:53 < daja77> <- sick and fallen in love :)
19:55 < daja77> and you?
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20:00 < tcr> daja77, feeling under-demanded in most subjects at school, having very spare time (as usual) and currently reading various stuff
20:00 < daja77> hehe, sounds a bit like me back in school :)
20:04 * daja77 has no time for reading atm :(
20:05 < tcr> I have no time for hacking. And too less time for reading actually too (my todo stacks/queues are moving skywards)
20:06 < daja77> :)
20:06 < tcr> daja77, you attended the Oberstufe of a Gymnasium, I guess?
20:06 < daja77> sure
20:06 < daja77> boring as hell
20:07 < tcr> (that's another topic)
20:07 < tcr> so you know how fucking your timetable can get?
20:07 < daja77> yep
20:07 < daja77> hmm yes
20:08 < tcr> mine wouldn't that crappy if I weren't someone having such a time-consuming "hobby" like the FLOSS world
20:08 < tcr> wouldn't be
20:08 < daja77> FLOSS?
20:08 < tcr> Free/Libre/OpenSource Software
20:08 < daja77> hehe
20:10 < daja77> unfortunately i got known to floss stuff at university and not before
20:11 < tcr> Well it has some deficiencies ;)
20:11 < daja77> it wasn't that popular at that time :)
20:11 < tcr> but floss is, generally, a very good mean for Selbstenfaltung
20:12 < daja77> indeed
20:12 < tcr> (in fact Selbstentfaltung is one of the strongest principles between floos)
20:12 < tcr> s,between,within,
20:13 * tcr looks around and beholds the typo ghost!
20:14 * daja77 putting down his mask
20:15 < daja77> d'oh spam on ml
20:15 < tcr> one of the mentioned deficiencies is that my verbal means of communication aren't very minted
20:15 < daja77> meet ppl!
20:16 < tcr> Heh ;) Hell not that krass
20:16 < daja77> and talk to them, it is easy :)
20:16 < daja77> lol
20:18 < tcr> Especially I have the problem that my "mental dictionary" is somewhat mixed with the english language (there are things I do know the english term for only)
20:19 < daja77> you are bizarre!
20:19 < tcr> Why?
20:19 < daja77> just a fact, dunno why
20:20 < tcr> Well, I think you're right ;)
20:20 < daja77> :)
20:21 < tcr> Can't await the first meeting with you :P 
20:23 < daja77> you come to 20c3?
20:24 < tcr> No, don't think I'll get the permissions
20:24 < daja77> what a pity, even Mike is there
20:29 < tcr> Parents suck
20:29 < daja77> :(
20:32 < mnemoc> tcr: how old are you?
20:34 < tcr> 2^4
20:35 < daja77> ah that deficits you mean
20:35 < mnemoc> doh :/ i thought you were older
20:36 < tcr> I think so, too ;)
20:36 < mnemoc> :)
20:36 < mnemoc> your parents not
20:37 < tcr> no, my mum thinks I'm still 13
20:37 < daja77> O_o
20:37 < daja77> are you that small?
20:38 < tcr> No that's "just" the mother-instinct I guess
20:38 < daja77> hmm
20:38 < mnemoc> i vote for that too
20:42 * daja77 preparing sth for dinner
20:42 < daja77> cu later
20:42 < tcr> Mahlzeit!
20:43 < daja77> thx :)
20:48 < mnemoc> esden: ?
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20:53 < mnemoc> do you know what is gcc's '-idirafter' for?
20:56 < tcr> Yes, as I just read it up in the manpage :)
20:57 < mnemoc> i found it
20:57 < mnemoc> Include DIRectory AFTER
21:12 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
21:13 < mnemoc> wb bc
21:15 < blindcoder> thx
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21:32 < daja77> re
21:32 < blindcoder> strange...
21:32 < blindcoder> ah. there it us
21:32 < blindcoder> is
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23:15 < cytrinox`-> gn8
23:15 < daja77> n8 cytrinox`- 
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