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06:17 < cchamilt> HIllO!
06:18 < cchamilt> Anyone have problems building curl?
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11:02 < A-Tui> hi
11:10 < rxr> re
11:12 < A-Tui> Is posible build python and paraguy at the same target?
11:17 < rxr> A-Tui: what do you exactly mean?
11:18 < A-Tui> well in muy build i have errors on paraguy and python becouse they have shared files
11:21 < rxr> ah
11:22 < rxr> in my desktop target they both build fine without shared files
11:22 < rxr> which files are shared in your build?
11:22 < A-Tui> Found shared files with other packages:
11:22 < A-Tui> usr/lib/python2.2/paragui.pyc: paragui python
11:22 < A-Tui> usr/lib/python2.2/paragui.pyo: paragui python
11:23 < A-Tui> the stage 5 for paraguy and python it's ok
11:23 < A-Tui> but the 9 fials
11:23 < A-Tui> fails
11:27 < rxr> ah - my desktop builds do not do a rebuild ...
11:29 < A-Tui> aha
11:29 < A-Tui> that's the problem, the rebuild
11:35 < A-Tui> rxr: is this check maden by the paranoia check option?
11:45 < cytrinox`> moin
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12:02 < rxr> moin cytrinox` 
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12:05 < rxr> hi zenlunatic 
12:13 < zenlunatic> Good morn.
12:18 < rxr> oh - we can update to gcc-3.3.2 ;-)!
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12:29 < rxr> hi martin_ 
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12:30 < martin_> hi rxr!
12:32 < starlord> how can i get kernel compile acpi?
12:34 < rxr> you mean inside ROCK Linux's linux* packages ?
12:35 < starlord> yep,but i think forgot to add CONFIG_ACPI to ./scripts/Config....
12:35 < starlord> it doesnt compile it on by default?
12:37 < rxr> only the desktop target enables it ...
12:37 < rxr> maybe it should be the default for x86 since many new laptops needs it ...
12:37 < rxr> but it would enlarge the bootdisk kernel quite a lot ... :-(((
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12:43 < starlord> hmm,if i choose "Perform normal kernel configuration including modules",does it use config settings i just typed?
12:45 < rxr> yes
12:45 < rxr> (IIRC)
12:47 < rxr> your manually settings will always be used
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13:27 * daja77 waves from the back
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13:30 < rxr> hi daja77 
13:30 < daja77> hi rxr :)
13:31 < daja77> <- occupied with rl stuff today, maybe i can rejoin tomorrow, afaik there is still a lot of work to do
13:38 < rxr> hi daja77 ;-)!
13:39 < rxr> I thnk I'm a bit more arround here again.
13:39 < daja77> that's cool, the chan was boring without you :)
13:39 < rxr> oh :-(
13:39 < rxr> but real-life was quite interesting with me ;-)
13:40 < daja77> that's great
13:40 < rxr> and I finally found the time to do intial next-generation GSMP work ... ;-)
13:40 < daja77> to be honest i was more occupied with rl the last days 
13:40 < daja77> the only thing i don't know if i can continue rtrock work, since my contract was cut by 50% :(
13:42 < daja77> there are trying to get more money to pay me, so we will see
13:43 < rxr> ah
13:43 < rxr> I'm shortly off buying some food - and back soon
13:44 < daja77> oki /me off too, cu
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13:59 < starlord> why does linux-drm is being compiled as module for 2.4.21, i also have 2.4.22 which i'm using and wanting it to compile...
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15:31 < starlord> anyone awake?
15:44 < mnemoc> yep
15:45 < starlord> and knows something about how to compile linux-drm
15:45 < starlord> ?
15:47 < mnemoc> never used that package?? isn't as any other normal rock package?
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15:48 < starlord> hmm,when i do ./scripts/Build-Pkg linux24 or ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg linux24,it should install it(kernel config and files) under /usr/src,because linux-drm needs kernel config
15:48 < starlord> now i have only 2.4.21 kernel config but i dont use that.
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15:49 < starlord> is it possible to get kernel config somewhere generated by Emerge-Pkg?
15:51 < mnemoc> creating a proper config and telling Emerge-Pkg to use it
15:51 < mnemoc> ./script/Config
15:53 < starlord> hmm,i mean the kernel config .config, i have edited proper(and needed) values to ./scripts/Config but when i do Emerge-Pkg it unpackages sources and makes patches to it compiles,installs and removes the build package,what it should do(maybe option ./scripts/Config) to leave build directory and install kernel files like they are normally under /usr/src
15:54 < starlord> because it removes build directory i cant compile linux-drm to my currently in use kernel version,only the version that is under /usr/src/linux
15:58 < mnemoc> linux24-src package leaves the files at /usr/src, and linux24-header add the files to /usr/include/linux
15:59 < mnemoc> 'emerge' them (3) and then try to do it with linux-drm
16:03 < starlord> hmm,isnt header files downloaded only if glibc is build with it?
16:03 < starlord> err,i mean /usr/include/linux should contain header files that glibc is compiled against
16:04 < mnemoc> good point :)
16:04 < mnemoc> don't emerge -header ;)
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16:47 < starlord> hmm,i guess there isnt package for pppoe?
16:48 < mnemoc> pppoe is a kernelmodule+ppp package
16:51 < A-Tui> hi
16:51 < starlord> that isn't made by roaringpenguin.com?
16:51 < starlord> meaning rp-pppoe
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16:54 < mnemoc> nope
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17:07 < netrunne1> rp-pppoe = userspace, pppoe.o = kernelspace
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17:07 < netrunner> re btw :)
17:07 < mnemoc> then we have 'it'
17:07 < netrunner> we have the latter
17:08 < netrunner> and it works, since you see me here :)
17:09 < mnemoc> ppp = userspace and we have it ;)
17:09 < starlord> netrunner:you know good sites how to configure ppp for pppoe?
17:11 < netrunner> starlord: it is trivial. shall I create one for you? :)
17:12 < mnemoc> starlord: change the device ;)
17:12 < starlord> netrunner:ok
17:12 < netrunner> mnemoc: ppp uses the kernel pppoe driver, rp-pppoe uses an userspace pppoe driver.
17:13 < starlord> i have everything else setted up,except those /etc/ppp files, i have never really used pppoe stuff,only standard eth or dialup
17:13 < mnemoc> oh... now i understand what you meaned :(
17:13 < netrunner> starlord: query ...
17:14 < mnemoc> i undestood that rp-pppoe=userspace+pppoe.o :(
17:16 < netrunner> mnemoc: rp-pppoe is completely standalone. it has it's own scripts like adsl-up and adsl-down ... the green chamaeleon uses it as default iirc
17:19 < netrunner> ugh ... now while pasting to starlord I noticed that I also use the rp-pppoe.so :/
17:19 < starlord> hmm
17:20 < netrunner> I obviously have to rewrite my comments ... ppp then _can_ be used with either the rp-pppoe userspace driver or with the kernel driver.
17:20 < starlord> ah that plugin? so ppp comes pppoe driver itself
17:20 < netrunner> thinking more back, I remember one has to apply a patch before building pppd that it can use the kernel driver.
17:21 < netrunner> starlord: maybe they got integrated? it is years back since I compiled pppd with pppoe the last time by hand :)
17:21 < starlord> well it doesnt matter for me which one to use,all i need is to get it to working,but i can't test this till monday
17:22 < netrunner> starlord: do you have rock on that box?
17:22 < starlord> yep
17:22 < netrunner> then my config should work. you can grep rp-pppoe.so /var/adm/flists/ppp to get your location for the driver, other things as in query.
17:23 < starlord> this box,on week's i have homepna which is pppoe and weekends i have dsl(doesnt need pppoe like some needs)
17:23 < starlord> plugin was right,i have it too
17:23 < starlord> in same place
17:23 < netrunner> you just have to call pppd eth? where eth? is the nic connected to your modem.
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17:24 < netrunner> hm, startrek on tv? *tuning*
17:24 < starlord> netrunner:thanks,i'll thank you more on monday,or curse you to deepest hole in hell :)
17:25 < starlord> hopefully it works,i just found some docs about this,but they do something with /etc/ppp/peers/... is this for somekind of stats?
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17:26 < ArschDerWelt> hi
17:26 < netrunner> starlord: I could supply you with my cellphone nr, but I do not know if you would like to make such an expense ;)
17:27 < ArschDerWelt> .oO(finnland -> germany could be a bit expensive)
17:27 < starlord> no need,i can here from school
17:27 < starlord> blah,i can get here from school also
17:28 < netrunner> ArschDerWelt: there are countrys I call regularly that are more expensive :)
17:28 < netrunner> ArschDerWelt: they are where your nick comes from ;)
17:29 < ArschDerWelt> germany?
17:30 < netrunner> no, am arsch der welt :)
17:30 < ArschDerWelt> as in "nick is german" or as in "Arsch"
17:30 < ArschDerWelt> ?
17:30 < ArschDerWelt> ah so. so where?
17:30 < netrunner> moldova
17:30 < netrunner> (eg)
17:31 < ArschDerWelt> O_o why calling into this country?
17:31 < netrunner> familiar reasons
17:31 < ArschDerWelt> hmm. k.
17:34 < starlord> netrunner:is there a debug mode for pppd? so i can see where it hangs on monday?
17:34 < ArschDerWelt> ARGH!!!
17:34 < ArschDerWelt> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,270401,00.html
17:36 < netrunner> starlord: put debug in the options file
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17:54 < netrunner> 5D2
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19:27 < rxr> re
19:34 < netrunner> hi rxr 
19:37 < mnemoc> hi rxr
19:38 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
19:38 < rxr> hi netrunner 
19:39 < tcr> None of you has experience with delphi?
19:41 < rxr> tcr: years in the past ...
19:45 < tcr> rxr: I have a class `TTest' with `blah: Integer' and `procedure SetBlah(Value: Integer)', whereby this procedure does nothing more than a simple `blah := value;'. In `TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);' I have a `MyTest.SetBlah(5);' (where MyTest is in the `var' block of the `implementation' part of my unit)
19:45 < tcr> But when I run this I get a SIGSEV, no idea why
19:48 < rxr> hm - what about s.th. like a backtrace inside soem debugger?
19:49 < tcr> The sigsev is caused by the `blah := value;' line
19:58 < rxr> hm
19:58 < rxr> mis-generated code ... ?!
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20:03 < fake> gevening...
20:05 < ArschDerWelt> hi fake !
20:09 < rxr> hi hannes 
20:10 < tcr> Wuha
20:10 < tcr> This might something within libpthread
20:10 < tcr> +be
20:32 < netrunner> hm ... another upstream patch accepted, rocklinux heals the world :)
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21:06 < HappyCoder0815> Hello everybody
21:06 < HappyCoder0815> I
21:07 < HappyCoder0815> I have got a problem with RockLinux 2.0.0 rc1 generic binary isos
21:07 < HappyCoder0815> The first cd is not booting
21:07 < tcr> Hello
21:08 < tcr> How do you mean?
21:08 < HappyCoder0815> I have just downloaded the 3 generic isos
21:08 < tcr> Also, look into the archives... there're some known issues with booting and rc1.
21:09 < HappyCoder0815> burn them with Nero, but they didnt start
21:09 < tcr> HappyCoder0815, That's a pity... rene is gonna release rc2 in the next hours/days where the bootdisks should be definitively fixed
21:09 < tcr> HappyCoder0815, Well, with Nero.. Sure you it (Nero) made the first cd bootable?
21:09 < tcr> s,you,,
21:11 < HappyCoder0815> Nero make older versions (1.6.0) bootable, how can I check it?
21:13 < tcr> You have to explicitely enable it
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21:14 < tcr> IIRC there's a "target" (like data cd, audio cd, etc) for bootable cds
21:14 < tcr> There you have to specify the image to boot from in a dialog
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21:16 < HappyCoder0815> But the file i ve got is a iso. And when I choose Recorder-->Burn Image there is no option for enable booting
21:16 < mnemoc> i coudn't boot from rc2 isos (burned with nero) but i could from bootdisk-rc3 iso burned with nero
21:18 < HappyCoder0815> Is there a download location for a bootdisk iso?
21:18 < mnemoc> my home-pc ;) with iproute2 broken
21:18 < mnemoc> do you want it? 
21:19 < HappyCoder0815> yes it will be great! So I can install the generic isos
21:20 < mnemoc> ftp://ftp.cbs.cl/incoming/amery/test_cd1.iso.bz2 no warranties
21:22 < HappyCoder0815> just starting the download thx
21:22 < mnemoc> btw, i'm at Chile so bw can be 'narrow'
21:23 < HappyCoder0815> no prob
21:24 < HappyCoder0815> for witch processor do you have compiled it?
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21:35 < mnemoc> p-mmx
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21:45 < martin_> re
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21:48 < dennis> lo
21:52 < ArschDerWelt> hi dennis 
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22:40 < ArschDerWelt> sshi trekkie3k 
22:40 < trekkie3k> ihss owl
22:41 < ArschDerWelt> aeh where do you know from, that i am owl?
22:41 < ArschDerWelt> O_o *confused*
22:42 < trekkie3k> hostmask
22:42 < ArschDerWelt> ah. k. hrm.
22:42 < tcr> from your nick *scnr* ;)
22:42 < trekkie3k> hehe
22:43 < ArschDerWelt> tcr: *kick* ;p
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23:05 * netrunner just drunk 1l vine
23:06 * netrunner feels a little dizzy :)
23:10 * netrunner feels alone here :/
23:18 < ArschDerWelt> netrunner: hm. i suggest: buy a hamster or so. 
23:24 < mnemoc> i think you need to eat two hamsters to replace 1l wine, 1 can only replace a couple of beers
23:35 < daja77> re
23:36 < mnemoc> re daja77 
23:36 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
23:38 < daja77> netrunner: what happened to you
23:39 < rxr> re
23:39 < daja77> wb rxr
23:42 < rxr> just a nightly visit on my home server
23:42 < rxr> more work will be done tomorrow
23:43 < rxr> cu - and much fun with hamsters netrunner 
23:43 < daja77> cu rxr and good night
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23:45 < ArschDerWelt> mnemoc: not eating hamster, but hamster for not feeling alone ;p
23:46 < ArschDerWelt> .oO(btw, wtf does everybody wants to eat hamster?)
23:46 < daja77> maybe they are hungry
23:47 < ArschDerWelt> hmmm.. but every time i'm mentioning the word "hamster" they're going to eat it *cries*
23:47 < daja77> because it is your hamster
23:47 < mnemoc> hamster are tasty
23:48 < ArschDerWelt> http://mitglied.lycos.de/thenull//misc/private/pic_0142.jpg << mine, btw ;p
23:49 < ArschDerWelt> daja77: *kick*
23:49 < ArschDerWelt> mnemoc: *kick*
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23:51 < mnemoc> cat http://mitglied.lycos.de/thenull//misc/private/pic_0142.jpg >> /dev/grill
23:51 < daja77> daily owl kick
23:52 < mnemoc> she kicks tcr first
23:52 < ArschDerWelt> nah, my bf ;p
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23:55 < daja77> nice rat pic
23:56 < ArschDerWelt> rat?
23:56 < daja77> grey sth
23:56 < ArschDerWelt> "wildfarbener dsungarischer zwerghamster"
23:58 < mnemoc> here that's called 'laucha' phonetic: a:cat u:bumerang ch:chile
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