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00:13 < rxr> re
00:15 < rxr> btw. has someone experience with ipsec, especially with e.g. FreeS/WAN and/or Checkpoint ?
00:15 < SMP> lots. only OpenBSD and Linux 2.6 / 2.4-ipsec with isakmpd
00:16 < SMP> i.e. I avoid FreeS/WAN like the plague
00:16 < rxr> I tried it today for the first time (to be able to have internet access at the university ...=
00:16 < rxr> )
00:17 < rxr> I first hat to debug several segfault mostly due to miss-use of va_list in the pluto daemon ...
00:17 < rxr> FreeS/WAN looks quite bloated ...
00:19 < SMP> just stay away from FreeS/WAN, esp. pluto, and racoon as well ;)
00:20 < rxr> well I guess I try some more days with FreeSWAN since I read that it should work together with the Checkpoint (crap?)
00:20 < SMP> interoperability is usually not a problem
00:20 < rxr> or do you know if isakmpd is compatible to Checkpoint products ?
00:20 < SMP> unless you are doing NAT-T, for example
00:21 * daja77 off to bed
00:21 < daja77> cu
00:21 < rxr> cu daja77 
00:21 < rxr> SMP: is the some isakmpd homepage - a quick google does not reviel it (here)
00:23 < SMP> no, it's the OpenBSD isakmpd - from their CVS
00:23 < SMP> but that is a minor problem
00:23 < SMP> the bigger problem would be a kernel with ipsec support
00:24 < SMP> you can use 2.6 with ipsec built in or the backport to 2.4.21
00:24 < rxr> hm - on PowerPC (iBook) - the best kernel is 2.4.22-benh2 - so I guess I might have to do some porting work ... .-(
00:25 < SMP> urgh
00:25 < SMP> 2.4.22 already has the crypto-api - might make things easier, might make things harder
00:25 < rxr> but maybe only some minor changes - the freeswan stuff applied out-of-the-box - just some tiny fuzzy messages ...
00:26 < SMP> I suggest you keep trying with FreeS/chwein - until it works or you're frustrated enough for some real work ;->
00:28 < rxr> well - I'm allready frustated enoght - I wated nearly the whole day at university with this *crap*
00:29 < SMP> back in 10
00:30 * rxr off to bed soon ...
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00:33 < rxr> cu
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00:48 < SMP> re
01:00 < jsaw> leaving also, cu soon
01:00 < jsaw> s/also/too/, harr harr
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04:15 < rolla> re
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04:45 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 
04:45 < mnemoc> hullo rolla
04:49 < mnemoc> my anyone has undefined __guard in readline?
04:49 < mnemoc> s/my/does/
04:50 < SMP> looks like some stack-protection thing?
04:51 < mnemoc> i think so
04:51 < mnemoc> now i have a broken bash at stage 5 :(
04:55 < mnemoc> mmm... my other build (bootdisk) doesn't have libreadline.so to replace the broken :'(
04:59 < mnemoc> SMP: do you know/have time to fix that? i only realize the problem when i build bash with 'system readline'
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05:06 < SMP> I can't help with that, sorry
05:06 < SMP> I'm still pissed off because scripts/Config killed my 28-line pkgsel
05:10 < __mnemoc> after a similar 'case' i decided to create lot of targets ;)
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07:40 < Mike1> moin all
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08:56 * netrunner refused to drive to uni today, all roads blocked by accidents.
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09:59 < blindcoder> moin
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10:31 < netrunner> hi blindcoder, how's the wheather in in?
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10:35 < blindcoder> clouds, with occasional sunshine
10:35 < starlord> bah,it's snowing here,blindcoder where you from?
10:35 < blindcoder> Bavaria
10:35 < starlord> and where's that?
10:35 < blindcoder> .de
10:36 < starlord> ah,ofcourse :)
10:36 < starlord> -3 degrees in here :) look's like real winter is coming
10:37 < blindcoder> Well, it's not like it's warm here or something....
10:37 < blindcoder> I'm currently looking for new winter-tires....
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10:38 < Mike1> re...
10:38 < blindcoder> moin Mike1 
10:38 < Mike1> hi blindy!
10:38 < starlord> blindcoder:i thought in there it doesnt get snow that much or at all....
10:39 < blindcoder> well... not in recent years... not that much anymore...
10:46 < cannibal> moin
10:46 < blindcoder> moin moin
10:46 < netrunner> blindcoder: here in muc there's been the complete traffic chaos this morning. even the mvv shut down their main line from east to west for an emergency ...
10:46 < Mike1> Good day cannibal
10:46 * netrunner stayed at home :)
10:46 < blindcoder> netrunner: Yet Another Suicide?
10:46 < blindcoder> netrunner: lazy student *kick*
10:47 < cannibal> hi Miguel
10:47 < cannibal> hi blindy
10:47 < cannibal> netrunner: huh? when?
10:48 < netrunner> blindcoder: Yet Another Suicide Tool -> YAST :)
10:48 < blindcoder> *lol*
10:48 < netrunner> cannibal: today.
10:48 < cannibal> .oO(snow in munich, btw)
10:48 < cannibal> hehe. no problems with tram line 20/21
10:48 < blindcoder> sweet
10:49 < cannibal> sweet? the snow or what?
10:50 < blindcoder> the fact that there is snov
10:50 < blindcoder> s/v/w/
10:50 < cannibal> ah so... yes :)
10:51 < cannibal> .oO(and this large, black SUN-cup is wonderful :)))
10:53 * blindcoder doing some work on LVP
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11:01 < netrunner> ADVISE: Do not eat yellow snow!
11:01 < blindcoder> ADVISE: Do not eat white snow either!
11:02 < cannibal> haeh?
11:02 < starlord> yellow snow,those taste so good, why not?
11:05 < netrunner> starlord: shall I produce you some? ;)
11:05 < starlord> nope :)
11:06 < starlord> send me some brown snow,i havent had time to taste that....
11:09 < starlord> and these damm "enviroment rules" in here,if i wanted to produce it my self i'd be in jail if they catch me
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11:21 < starlord> damm these friday's last school hours are so boring...
11:23 < daja77> re
11:28 < netrunner> daja77: hi! interested in my homemade yellow snow? ;)
11:28 < daja77> erhm no not really
11:28 < blindcoder> hi daja77 
11:29 < daja77> hi blindcoder :)
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11:32 < blindcod1r> damn telekom >_<
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11:32 < daja77> rofl now that you mention it
11:32 < blindcoder> but at least my getmynickback-script works flawlessly :)
11:33 < daja77> a friend had some trouble with his 0700 phone number, so he called the hotline, they asked him about the area code?! he said 0700 and they asked which town this is
11:33 < blindcoder> ehm.... okay....
11:34 < daja77> yep :)
11:34 < Mike1> hi daja77
11:44 * netrunner brewed himself christmas tea and fetched some spekulatius (apparently from last year)
11:44 < netrunner> to strengthen that feeling /me loads ut2003 ...
11:44 * daja77 saw the first snowflakes today
11:44 < daja77> hi Miguel :)
11:44 < netrunner> damn, I should one time buy a soundcard for my build server
11:44 < blindcoder> hmm...
11:45 < blindcoder> looks like GLUT_RGBA doesn't work here >_<
11:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: [X] send me your getmynickbackscript
11:45 < blindcoder> netrunner: using irssi?
11:45 * daja77 did some glut programming in the year 2000
11:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: yes. andreas@waterworld.dyndns.org
11:46 < blindcoder> daja77: I use it for LVP
11:46 < netrunner> hm ... I should create an alias for netrunner :)
11:47 < daja77> blindcoder: i think i will have a look at lvp this we, think i can use it for multimedia target :)
11:47 < blindcoder> netrunner: sent
11:47 < blindcoder> daja77: good luck in understanding them ;)
11:47 < daja77> your code? well i am used to crap so ...
11:48 < blindcoder> grep 'comments || documentation' lvp/* | wc -l
11:48 < blindcoder>        0
11:48 < blindcoder> daja77: oh, then you should be fine :)
11:48 < daja77> :)
11:48 < blindcoder> just tell me when you start so I can hide :)
11:48 < daja77> hehe
11:56 < blindcoder> but take care, I'm quite sure taht the LVP-binary leaks memory all over the place...
11:57 < daja77> okis :)
11:59 < netrunner> Now keeping netrunner on [freenode]
12:03 < blindcoder> :)
12:04 < daja77> poor freenode ...
12:04 < Mike1> *grin*
12:05 < blindcoder> netrunner: remember to /save to keep the settings
12:05 * blindcoder --> lunch
12:07 * netrunner throws yellow snowballs to daja77
12:09 < netrunner> omg, www.mediamarkt.de does not respond, but www.ichbindochnichtbloed.de instantly forwards to shop.mediamarkt.de :/
12:09 * daja77 blocks netrunner's attack with a hair dryer
12:11 * daja77 now having lunch at grandma's
12:11 < daja77> cu
12:13 < netrunner> daja77: say hello from #rocklinux :)
12:17 * blindcoder back
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12:26 < frikkalikka> hi u all
12:27 < frikkalikka> help me if u can.......
12:27 < cannibal> hi frikkalikka 
12:27 < frikkalikka> (i'm feeling doooooown)
12:27 < frikkalikka> :)
12:27 < frikkalikka> hi
12:27 < frikkalikka> cannibal
12:27 < frikkalikka> !
12:27 < frikkalikka> this is my problem
12:28 < cannibal> ?
12:28 < frikkalikka> i can't get a minimal kernel image that fit in a fd0h1440  
12:28 < frikkalikka> the smallest i've got is 1,8 M
12:29 < frikkalikka> but i think i can't do better
12:29 < frikkalikka> (i'm cross-building)
12:30 < frikkalikka> isn't it possible to have something <= 1,4 ?
12:31 < frikkalikka> i need it
12:32 < frikkalikka> otherwise do u know a way to boot a system from floppy using a vmlinuz written on more than one diskette
12:32 < frikkalikka> ?
12:35 < frikkalikka> have i frozen u with theese questions?
12:37 < netrunner> it is possible.
12:37 < netrunner> use 2.2.x :)
12:38 < frikkalikka> will it be less than 1.4?
12:39 < frikkalikka> ok
12:41 < cannibal> someone knows where sending sms is free (sms to germany?)
12:42 < netrunner> cannibal: there are tools that list free sms services. 
12:43 < cannibal> netrunner: where?
12:43 < blindcoder> TINSTAAFL
12:45 < cannibal> *gnarf*
12:54 < netrunner> cannibal: look in the ct shareware archives, I think there was one
12:57 < cannibal> hm. k. thx
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13:23 < frikkalikka> i'm gonna see what will happend 
13:23 < frikkalikka> tnx for support :)
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13:29 < netrunner> hm ... if he took me serious? 
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14:31 < rolla> re
14:31 < Mike1> hi rolla
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14:40 < Mike1> hej [anders]!
14:40 < [anders]> lo Mike1 
14:40 < [anders]> have now moved the server.. it is on wireless now. :)
14:41 < Mike1> [anders]: awesome! :)
14:41 < [anders]> try to get to it. :)
14:42 < Mike1> trying :)
14:42 < Mike1> err forgot hostname :)
14:43 < [anders]> lenin.trudheim.com
14:44 < [anders]> looks like it is working.. :)
14:44 < [anders]> and the box is now upstairs. :)
14:44 < [anders]> the AP and DSL router is downstairs.
14:44 < [anders]> so there is much less noise downstairs.
14:45 < Mike1> hehe.. but then again downstairs looks geekless...
14:46 < [anders]> Nah.. Good that most of the stuff is moved to the 'office'
14:46 < [anders]> Means I can tinker with it with a little bit of space around me.
14:46 < [anders]> and the wireless part means I can move things around.
14:47 < Mike1> yeah thats a possitive part
14:48 < [anders]> wifi isn't fast, but faster than the DSL link.. :)
14:48 < [anders]> enough for me. ;-)
14:49 < Mike1> someday i hope to visit you and maybe we can go for a quake game over ur wireless :)
14:49 < [anders]> hehe
14:50 * Mike1 seriously focused on his Kernel internals learning
14:50 < Mike1> but i am taking a little brake now :)
14:51 < [anders]> :)
14:51 < [anders]> got to go take a shower.. then get ready to go to the bank.
14:52 < [anders]> damn, where has today gone..
14:52 < Mike1> hehe
14:52 < Mike1> day just begging for me.. envy me! :)
15:15 < netrunner> argl, gf started 'cleaning up' ... (in other words throwing away everything she does not recognize useful)
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15:44 < Mike1> Aitor!
15:44 < Mike1> :)
15:44 < A-Tui> hi Mike1!!!!
15:44 < A-Tui> how are you?
15:47 < Mike1> I'm great thanks and you ?
15:47 < Mike1> its quite nice to see you here ;)
15:49 < A-Tui> Mike1: me too good :)
15:49 < A-Tui> i'm a little ill, here starts the cold yet
15:50 < Mike1> I'm the middle of the fscking cold so i understand the feeling
15:51 < A-Tui> Mike1: hehe don't you like cold?
15:52 < Mike1> ah :) you mean as in weather.. i ment cold as in been sick with a cold..
15:52 < rolla> how cold is it Mike1 ?
15:52 < Mike1> es= gripe.
15:53 < Mike1> rolla: weather is hot atm.. but in a few hours i asume it will be raining and at night it will be quite windy.. weather been crazy lately..
15:53 < A-Tui> Mike1: i'm with "gripe" at this moment :)
15:53 < A-Tui> Mike1: too much wet it's illness too
15:54 < Mike1> tell me about it I'm taking atibiotics.. :(.. my eyes won't stop crying..
15:54 < Mike1> damn [anders] you passed me the cold over IRC!!!
15:55 < A-Tui> hehe
15:55 < A-Tui> in my city we are in alert about snow this week end :(
15:55 * Mike1 considering to pass the cold to daja77
15:59 < Mike1> A-Tui: perhaps is good time to consider vacations in CR?
16:00 * Mike1 having LAN party next weekend, everyone invited
16:00 < A-Tui> Mike1: that will be wonderfull but i think my boss don't think the same
16:01 < Mike1> oh :(
16:03 < A-Tui> Mike1: Work is my chain :)
16:03 < Mike1> so is mine...
16:03 < A-Tui> everybody.... i think
16:03 < Mike1> _BUT_.. I love my work :)
16:04 < A-Tui> :)
16:04 < Mike1> its been quite a while since i don't even troubleshoot a win box :)
16:05 < Mike1> years without running it for myself :)
16:05 < A-Tui> hehe, i must use it for the class
16:06 < Mike1> ph34r :)
16:07 < A-Tui> well time to luch, see you later, bye :)
16:07 * A-Tui is away: comiendo
16:08 < Mike1> enjoy your meal :)
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17:09 * rolla does a little dance
17:11 < daja77> Mike1: hey that's unfair i am having a cold for three weeks now
17:11 * daja77 likes to see rolla dancing
17:11 < rolla> sorry 
17:11 < Mike1> daja77: so dance the chicken with rolla :)
17:11 < rolla> I have my car parts coming in
17:11 < Mike1> rolla: cool! what parts?
17:12 < rolla> new shocks and struts and springs
17:12 < daja77> the bmw sign :p
17:12 < rolla> had to wait for them to be shipped from de
17:12 < daja77> O_o
17:13 < daja77> no bmw car parts in the usa
17:13 < rolla> the best are german made
17:13 < rolla> bilsteins and H&R
17:13 < daja77> ic
17:13 < rolla> :)
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17:14 < Mike1> :)
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17:15 < daja77> Mike1: you missed armijn yesterday ...
17:16 < Mike1> daja77: he was here? :(
17:17 < rolla> Mike1: what port is cups
17:21 < Mike1> i think its 631
17:22 < rolla> thanks
17:23 < Mike1> bitte.
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17:36 < daja77> Mike1: yes a few minutes
17:40 < Mike1> daja77: sux :(
17:53 * A-Tui is back (gone 01:45:23)
17:53 < A-Tui> re
17:53 < Mike1> 2 horas para almorzar.. ni verguenza te da!
17:54 < A-Tui> :)
17:54 < Mike1> :P
17:54 < A-Tui> el cafe y esas cosas, ya sabes :)
17:54 < A-Tui> y la típica siesta!
17:55 < Mike1> lazy ass!
17:55 < A-Tui> ehh the "siesta" is health :)
17:55 < Mike1> lazyness..
17:55 < A-Tui> btw, how is "siesta" in english
17:57 < Mike1> mm.. i would call it break.. but there most be a better word
18:00 < rolla> grrr
18:02 < Mike1> rolla: ?
18:02 < rolla> php sucks
18:02 < A-Tui> :)
18:02 < Mike1> 0_o! take that back!!
18:02 < rolla> no
18:02 < Mike1> what problem are you having?
18:02 < rolla> I hate having to install
18:02 < rolla> it
18:03 < Mike1> what do you need to instal it for?
18:03 < rolla> ;)
18:04 < Mike1> I always install it, but only because i _NEED_ it, not just for installing it
18:16 * rajiv is back (gone 08:56:07)
18:17 < Mike1> welcome back rajiv
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19:26 < blindcoder> well, php DOES suck. But having to code my web-apps in C sucks even more, so I have to deal :)
20:00 < rolla> they need to get php to be apache2 ready
20:02 < cchamilt> rehu
20:03 < cchamilt> rolla:Why isnt php apache2 ready?
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20:11 < jsaw> re
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21:13 < rolla> php sucks hard
21:13 < rolla> awful docs
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21:55 < tcr> moin all
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21:59 < rolla> re tcr
22:03 < tcr> hi rolla
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22:16 < rolla> what mailserver do you use tcr?
22:17 < tcr> You mean software?
22:17 < rolla> yes
22:17 < tcr> None, I'm using an extern mailserver
22:17 < rolla> oh
22:18 < tcr> You know, I hate configuring and administrating, so I'm pretty fine with this :)
22:19 < rolla> :)
22:22 < tcr> http://www.hackles.org/strips/cartoon343.png
22:23 < rolla> :)
22:38 < daja77> re
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23:04 < Pyro> re
23:04 < Pyro> rolla: ?
23:04 < daja77> hey Pyro 
23:05 < Pyro> hi daja77 
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23:17 < daja77> Pyro: getting back to cr times?
23:30 < Pyro> daja77: no.. gettign back to 24/7 times...
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