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--- Log opened Sat Oct 25 00:00:54 2003 00:01 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M328P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 01:30 -!- snyke is now known as testsnyke 01:30 -!- testsnyke is now known as snyke 04:01 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: _spectre_, rxr 04:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr, _spectre_ 04:01 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802C25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E212.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F41B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- __mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-7104.bb.online.no] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- praenti [mo1032@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm83.gamma148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- vectrax [~vectrax@p15091744.pureserver.info] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:01 -!- th [~th@ns0.hbsn.de] has quit (Killed by gerrold.freenode.net ()) 04:02 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E212.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F41B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802C25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- __mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm83.gamma148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 04:03 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, rolla, trekkie3k, blindcoder, true 04:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: trekkie3k, netrunner, blindcoder, true, rolla 04:07 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Freak, Aard, aszlig 04:07 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, Aard, Freak 04:07 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Freak, _spectre_, Aard, rxr, aszlig 04:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, Freak, Aard, rxr, _spectre_ 04:08 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: daja77, cchamilt, mistik1 04:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cchamilt, mistik1, daja77 04:10 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [anders], __mnemoc, SMP 04:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: __mnemoc, [anders], SMP 04:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla, true, blindcoder, netrunner, trekkie3k, cytrinox`-, snyke 04:17 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: nookie, Nebukadneza, Mike1 04:18 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, rolla, trekkie3k, blindcoder, true 04:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: trekkie3k, netrunner, blindcoder, true, rolla 04:18 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M328P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:18 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-148.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:18 -!- Mike1 [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 < rolla> re 05:08 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox`- 05:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox`- 07:21 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-039.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:24 -!- Pyro [~mike@master.linux.edu] has joined #rocklinux 07:24 < Pyro> re 07:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-148.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:31 -!- Pyro [~mike@master.linux.edu] has quit ("leaving") 07:53 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M299P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:07 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M328P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:31 < cchamilt> relo anybody? 08:31 < cchamilt> Just an announcement - casetronic miniITX cases 2699R do not fit daughter boards well. 08:33 < cchamilt> I have a Hauppauge bttv card that is big, had to cut a screw off the back plate of it and file some of the top corner of the board off to fit. 10:52 -!- ceduardo [~ceduardo@216.184.111.13] has joined #rocklinux 10:52 -!- ceduardo [~ceduardo@216.184.111.13] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") 10:57 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.149.120.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:12 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-039.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:18 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.188.153.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:51 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:52 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD9005737.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:09 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802C25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:10 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091bfe.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:40 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox` 12:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox` 13:29 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F198.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:30 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F41B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 13:30 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 13:35 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M299P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 13:51 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E212.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:53 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:53 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has quit (Client Quit) 13:58 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091bfe.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:12 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 < frikkalikka> ok (it's driving me crazy) 14:13 < frikkalikka> i'm cross-building 14:18 < frikkalikka> i've crossed-compiled a very minimal rocklinux system 14:19 < frikkalikka> to have the vmlinux fit in a floppy disk 14:19 < frikkalikka> cp vmlinux /dev/fd0 14:19 < frikkalikka> rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/ram0 14:20 < frikkalikka> cause i get empty disk on primary master 14:21 < frikkalikka> but nothing happends when i boot the pc 14:21 < frikkalikka> (5x86 32M Ram ) 14:21 < frikkalikka> why????? 14:28 -!- daddel9__ [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:28 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:31 < frikkalikka> ???? 14:34 < frikkalikka> tnx for considering me 14:34 -!- frikkalikka [~xxxxxxxxx@62-101-126-217.fastres.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 14:47 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:47 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:52 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:53 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:13 < rxr> re 15:22 < __mnemoc> hi rxr 15:22 < rxr> hi __mnemoc 15:26 < __mnemoc> 'the' mount problem is getting me crazy :-\ the same cdrw works in 5 boxes but not in the ONE i need :( 15:27 < rxr> oh - strange 15:27 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M299P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:28 < __mnemoc> btw, does kiss get to fat adding realine support? 15:29 < __mnemoc> i can't live without filename completition o_O 15:31 < rxr> hehe - would be nice - try it ... 15:31 < rxr> ... 15:31 < __mnemoc> last thing, considering there will be no new kiss release... 15:32 < __mnemoc> can we add to the mirror a not 'double-compressed' tarball? 15:33 < rxr> on the mirror will be the official release - whatever the kiss people put into it ... 15:33 < __mnemoc> ok 15:57 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508028DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:03 -!- nookie_ [~n00kie@M292P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:08 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M299P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:39 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAFDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:23 < tcr> moin all 17:23 < __mnemoc> moin tcr 17:25 < rxr> hi tcr 17:36 < netrunner> good day. 17:36 < rxr> hi netrunner 17:38 < netrunner> hi rxr 17:38 < blindcoder> netrunner: (from esden) next weekend there is a Apeiron-meeting scheduled, probably sunday 17:39 < netrunner> blindcoder: thx. got it via mail. But I do not know If this weekend or next was ment. 17:41 < __mnemoc> windowsupdate is down =) 18:07 < nookie_> Hola __mnemoc, blindy :) 18:07 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 < A-Tui> hi 18:09 < nookie_> Hola A-Tui 18:10 < A-Tui> hola nookie_ 18:10 < A-Tui> how are you? 18:10 < nookie_> Muy bien, gracias, y usted? :) 18:10 < A-Tui> ehhh buen espaņol 18:10 < A-Tui> yo tambien gracias 18:11 < A-Tui> aunque mejor decir "tu" en lugar de "usted" :) 18:11 < A-Tui> "usted" is a very formal word 18:11 < nookie_> damn 18:11 < nookie_> ;) 18:12 < A-Tui> "usted" is used when you are talking a old person or a person who you don't know 18:14 < nookie_> ah 18:14 < nookie_> so I should say 18:15 < nookie_> "y tu"? 18:15 < A-Tui> tú 18:15 < A-Tui> :) 18:16 < A-Tui> nookie_: but was a good spanish :) 18:16 < nookie_> Thanks :) 18:20 < __mnemoc> argentinian ppl said 'vos' instead of 'tu' 18:21 < A-Tui> yes __mnemoc, in Argentina spanish is some different 18:22 < __mnemoc> they 'morfan' instead of 'comen' ... lunfardo is weird 18:23 < A-Tui> morfan? 18:23 < __mnemoc> morfar=comer 18:24 < A-Tui> ahhh i don't know that :) 18:24 < __mnemoc> take a look: https://www.elportaldeltango.com.ar/dicciona.htm 18:25 < __mnemoc> thay have a whole language... not just an 'slang' 18:26 < A-Tui> mmm well, for me is very difficult understand a south spanish yet so an argentinian ... :) 18:28 < __mnemoc> do you pronounce the last 'd' of madriD? 18:31 < tcr> Yau 18:31 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a8d.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:33 < A-Tui> yes __mnemoc 18:34 < A-Tui> the official pronounce is with the ' d' 18:34 < A-Tui> but in the south people don't do it 18:38 < __mnemoc> we (chilean) do it too... but we can distinguish between b/v or s/c/z o_O 18:40 < A-Tui> hehe, well where i live (Burgos, the main city from Castilla) we talk "Castellano" 18:42 < __mnemoc> :) i think all 'south-american' ppl said castellano too 18:43 < A-Tui> yes, that are the origin for spanish 18:52 < cchamilt> What is the deal with ch? 18:53 < cchamilt> Why does it appear as another letter in my spanish dictionary? 18:54 < A-Tui> another letter? 18:54 < cchamilt> Yep. My dictionary goes A B C CH D ... 18:54 < A-Tui> mm then is wrong 18:55 < A-Tui> ch are two letters 18:55 < A-Tui> c-h 18:55 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:55 < fake> nabend 18:55 < A-Tui> in the abc... there is not the ch 18:55 < cchamilt> Yeah, that is what I think. But it is running off the premise that spanish letters only make one sound I think. 18:55 < cchamilt> Hey fake 18:56 < fake> hi chris! 18:56 < A-Tui> hi fake 18:56 < A-Tui> cchamilt: it could be, but official are two letters 18:57 < cchamilt> Are the any letter combinations that make more than one sound? 18:57 < A-Tui> mmm let me thing 18:57 < A-Tui> 'll' 18:57 < cchamilt> ll is also separate. 18:58 < A-Tui> for example, "lluvia" <--- rain 18:58 < cchamilt> Though that is obvious too. 18:58 < cchamilt> llama heh. 18:58 < A-Tui> how do you pronounce them? 18:59 < cchamilt> lama, but I knew from tour shows on tv they say yama. 18:59 < A-Tui> yes, the second one 18:59 < A-Tui> and in spanish are different y an ll 18:59 < cchamilt> Me llamo ... 19:00 < A-Tui> other could be the combinations between g and u 19:00 < A-Tui> guerra 19:00 < A-Tui> guarida 19:00 < cchamilt> Oh yeah, that is interesting. 19:00 < A-Tui> in the first the u don't sound 19:01 < A-Tui> and in the second yes 19:01 * fake away again 19:01 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has quit ("[BX] I'm off like a prom dress...") 19:01 < A-Tui> gema 19:01 < cchamilt> Hmm, might be outside language influence though. 19:01 < A-Tui> the ge without an intermediate u sounds like j 19:02 < cchamilt> Is that in all 'dialects' of spanish? 19:02 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:02 < A-Tui> cchamilt: no 19:02 < A-Tui> only in "castellano" 19:02 < cchamilt> heh 19:02 < A-Tui> others languages are very different from castellano 19:02 < A-Tui> for exaplo, euskera 19:03 < A-Tui> or galician 19:03 < cchamilt> Hmm. 19:03 < cchamilt> Is there any country outside of spain that speaks a 'clean' spanish? 19:03 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 19:03 < A-Tui> mmmm in south america but a few words and expresions 19:04 < cchamilt> ie. French canadians speak an almost better than france french (I have heard). 19:04 < A-Tui> cchamilt: yes, the same that american people and spanish 19:04 < cchamilt> Americans have a cleaner accent, though we have simplified some spellings of English. 19:05 < cchamilt> Interesting. 19:05 < A-Tui> spanish have too much exceptions 19:05 < A-Tui> and irregular verbs 19:05 < tcr> Never say that to a frenchman, cchamilt 19:06 < A-Tui> tcr: :) 19:06 < cchamilt> I wish I was good at languages. I am two college classes away from a degree in Spanish. That me llamo is about as good as I am now. 19:06 < cchamilt> hey tcr how are things? 19:07 < cchamilt> apache + ldap + glibc2.3 works. 19:07 < A-Tui> cchamilt: where are yoy from? 19:07 < cchamilt> Ohio, USA 19:07 < cchamilt> I speak a slow clean English. 19:08 < tcr> cchamilt: Still fighting with getting known to delphi. My Matrix-console emulator thingy (don't know how it's called... you know the thing in the movie where the letters fade down on the screen) is almost finished. 19:08 < A-Tui> but you can speak very clean with an UK people true? 19:08 < cchamilt> Hmm. Well, the few English I have met yes. 19:09 < tcr> cchamilt, I am quite good at languages, if it's about things like grokking syntax, grammatic and keeping vocabulary in mind... but when it's going to be about pronunciation, I'm lost 19:09 < A-Tui> other languages in Spain have nothing similar to spanish 19:10 < tcr> That's why I selected Latin and Old greek... no need for pronunciation :) 19:10 < A-Tui> :) 19:10 < A-Tui> mmm spanish have no special pronunciacion 19:11 < A-Tui> words sounds like they are wrote (with a fewer exceptions sure) 19:11 < tcr> A-Tui, for instance, can't speak the quirky 'r' tone, as in terror 19:11 < A-Tui> mmmm the rr 19:11 < A-Tui> can you speak "rojo 19:11 < A-Tui> rojo" 19:11 < tcr> I never had spanish, selected french instead 19:12 < cchamilt> Puerto ricans like twirling r's I remember. 19:12 < tcr> Just know that r tone from classmates 19:12 < A-Tui> cchamilt: yes good example, is a similar sound 19:12 < cchamilt> Never could twirl them myself. I start going hock. 19:13 < tcr> Heh 19:13 < cchamilt> It is sexy coming from girls though. 19:14 < cchamilt> Spanish class ruled sometimes... 19:14 < A-Tui> :) 19:16 < cchamilt> Does anyone know how to upgrade glibc correctly? 19:16 < A-Tui> what's happening cchamilt? 19:17 < cchamilt> My 2.3 is missing headers and obvious 'morphed' itself. 19:17 < A-Tui> headers form glibc? 19:17 < cchamilt> This happened going from 2.1 to 2.2 before. I also noticed that a chrooted build on 2.2 making 2.3 can do this. 19:17 < cchamilt> Yep. 19:18 < cchamilt> It is a weird thing. 19:18 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a8d.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:18 < cchamilt> When I brought rock up to 2.2 I ended up copying all the headers across from the old system to the new. 19:18 < A-Tui> you can't pass headers dirs by hand? 19:19 < cchamilt> Then I built a new build from that host. 19:19 < cchamilt> I am more curious as to why this happens in rock. 19:19 < cchamilt> Clifford promised to look into it when 2.2 was done, and I know he thinks it is fixed for 2.3. However, it ist. 19:20 < cchamilt> isn't. 19:21 < cchamilt> I am just wondering if anyone has figured it out, cause I dont think our cross-compiler thing works. 19:22 < cchamilt> I have no idea why glibc does not install correctly in these situations. I have no experience playing with glibc2.3, but I may have to investigate. 19:23 < A-Tui> good luck cchamilt :) 19:23 < cchamilt> heh, thanks. 19:56 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F198.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:57 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801203.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:58 < cchamilt> from what 19:58 < cchamilt> I can tell, debian just kinda went with fixing the headers up. 19:59 < cchamilt> Not actually solving this weird problem. 20:00 < cchamilt> What is interesting is I have two problems: 1. is that netdb.h legacy headers are missing. 2. the glibc23 cannot rebuild the glibc23 - it does not create some build stub that sed is looking for. 20:20 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD9005737.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:22 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005737.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:34 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508028DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:54 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAFDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:24 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 21:36 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9E4D9EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:40 -!- dh3hao [ident@p50895A81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:41 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9E4D9EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 21:45 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:45 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:53 -!- dh3hao [ident@p50895A81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-im.org") 21:57 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAFDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAFDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:52 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M369P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:57 < __mnemoc> cchamilt: do you have some kind of live-rock-cd iso? --- Log closed Sun Oct 26 00:00:12 2003