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--- Log opened Mit Okt 29 00:00:09 2003 08:30 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802DD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:30 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 08:30 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003] 08:30 [Users #rocklinux] 08:30 [ _spectre_] [ aszlig ] [ cytrinox`-] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] 08:30 [ Aard ] [ blindcoder] [ daja77 ] [ Mike1 ] [ rolla ] [ snyke] 08:30 [ alanw ] [ cchamilt_ ] [ esden ] [ mistik1] [ rxr ] [ true ] 08:30 [ AOU ] [ clifford ] [ Freak ] [ mnemoc ] [ scoopex ] 08:30 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 23 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal] 08:30 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 08:30 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 1 secs 08:31 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 08:37 < netrunner> moin 08:37 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a05.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 08:37 < cchamilt_> hello 08:38 < cchamilt_> My kde panels just died. 08:38 * netrunner hates monday morning. today is monday isn't it? 08:38 < netrunner> cchamilt_: burry them and switch do xfce :) 08:38 < cchamilt_> not where I am. 08:38 < cchamilt_> isnt that a cde clone? 08:39 < cchamilt_> I have never seen a working cde system, though I have used quite a few solaris boxes... 08:42 < netrunner> cchamilt_: fortunately most solaris boxes also have fvwm2 :) 08:44 < cchamilt_> no, sorry that was a joke hard to follow. I meant cde might be OK on linux, but sun has never had it set it up right. 08:46 < netrunner> ah, that's to early today :) 08:47 < cchamilt_> fvwm2 is not that bad. I remember hacking on getting earthsim and snow working together. 08:48 < cchamilt_> All your options at the right click of a mouse. 09:05 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has joined #rocklinux 09:06 < scythe_> good morning 09:07 < Mike1> hello scythe_ und netrunner 09:08 < scythe_> open rock, ey? 09:10 < cchamilt_> hello scythe and ? what are you asking about rock? 09:11 < scythe_> hi - just read clifford's email about the name change 09:12 < cchamilt_> interesting. need to be able to read mail. 09:12 < cchamilt_> my email server is dead right now 09:13 < scythe_> clifford wrote about future plans of rock 09:14 < netrunner> please not yet another open something. that name tastes like old chewing gum. 09:14 < netrunner> why not 'The ROCK Machine' 09:14 < scythe_> he wrote that maybe a name change will be needed, when the porting of rock will be started to hurd and openbsd 09:15 < netrunner> or call it a 'ROCK box' as in black box ... put your config in and your dist comes out. 09:15 < cchamilt_> I am in favor of losing the 'rock' myself. 09:15 < scythe_> and *anything* sounds better than "YetAnotherLinux" 09:15 < netrunner> cchamilt_: rock is cool. 09:15 * netrunner needs to go to uni 09:16 < cchamilt_> yep, except it has no way of making a good logo. and makes me think of lame glam rock&roll. 09:17 < cchamilt_> we are the bon jovi of linuxes. 09:17 < scythe_> cchamilt: i like the name, but accept the need for a better logo 09:17 < scythe_> and dont think bon jovi, think queen and black sabbath ;-) 09:18 < cchamilt_> i am a cowboy and on a steel horse i ride. 09:18 < scythe_> steel penguin 09:18 < cchamilt_> do we ride or wrangle penguins? 09:19 < scythe_> let's forget this cowboy thing, shall we? :-) 09:19 < cchamilt_> i am a penguinboy. 09:20 < cchamilt_> ok, but rock as in referring to rock&roll is very cliche and past 'pop' influence. Nowadays music is always subclassified. 09:21 < cchamilt_> and even 'alternative linux' would be lame. 09:21 < scythe_> may be true. let start thiniking of car types ;-) 09:21 < cchamilt_> edsel 09:22 < cchamilt_> sorry i just love being a jerk when there is a chance. 09:22 < cchamilt_> suv linux. 09:22 < cchamilt_> diesel linux 09:23 < scythe_> i like porsches... 09:23 < cchamilt_> sports utility linuc 09:23 < cchamilt_> i like brewnix 09:23 < scythe_> suspensor? 09:24 < cchamilt_> explain suspensr please 09:24 < scythe_> call it "not yet another linux, but a distro build kit, and open"... 09:25 < cchamilt_> pick-nix 09:25 < scythe_> suspensor - i dont know the proper word, in hungarian it is called suspensor - a shielding for your balls :)) 09:25 < cchamilt_> nyalbddk&o 09:26 < cchamilt_> the joque strappe 09:26 < scythe_> (brain storming can be fun) 09:28 < cchamilt_> I really hope we can drop rock. Or at least not be 'open rock' as if there was a 'closed rock' 09:28 < cchamilt_> clifford seems to have problems naming things. 09:29 < scythe_> it's not the name that matters - the PR managers will do that. 09:29 < cchamilt_> yes and we have many of those... 09:30 < scythe_> at the marketing diversion, dont we? 09:30 < cchamilt_> jocelyn and i spent hours trying to come up with a way to 'market' rock. it was not good. 09:31 < cchamilt_> marketing diversions might help :) 09:31 < scythe_> marketing4linux is suse's own package i think... 09:31 < scythe_> :)) 09:32 < cchamilt_> We could slip cds of rock into peoples bags while they look at the bunnies. We tried that around 1.5 here in Singapore. Nothing came from it. 09:33 < scythe_> give free beer with rock 09:33 < cchamilt_> People don't understand free and no commitment. They think there is no one willing to give things away and actually promote them. 09:33 < scythe_> maybe rock really in need of a better name and logo 09:34 < scythe_> but i still think that rock is too complicated for a newbie linux user 09:34 < cchamilt_> free beer in singapore is even more confusing. Hardly anyone realizes that it is free in Singapore when someone hires breworks(a local microbrewer). 09:35 < cchamilt_> well that can be fixed. I mean a binary version is as easy as debian right now. 09:35 < scythe_> -dont take that free berr thing serious, the idea came from "married with children"... 09:35 < scythe_> and a gui setup would also help 09:35 < scythe_> like yast2 or in uhu-linux 09:35 < cchamilt_> Yes, but just pointing out that people are always suspicious of 'free' 09:36 < cchamilt_> they dont realize were all happy commies 09:37 < scythe_> than start asking money for binary releases - that should make us millions :))) 09:37 < cchamilt_> Do you think xdialod would be enough of graphics? I was thinking of porting stone to html and then load gecko as the installer. 09:37 < cchamilt_> xdialogue that is 09:38 < scythe_> i dont know much about guis 09:38 < scythe_> i saw only yast2 but i dont know it 09:38 < cchamilt_> mscsoftware used to have a webmin based installer that was pretty good. 09:38 < cchamilt_> html means remote installs are possible. 09:39 < scythe_> important: remote installs need to be possible 09:39 < cchamilt_> Why and when that would be needed, I dont know. However it seems like a selling point we can state. 09:39 < scythe_> for zseries - you can not install from local 09:39 < scythe_> everything you have locally is a dumb terminal 09:39 < cchamilt_> well rock always supports serial consoles now by being dialog based. 09:40 < scythe_> no serial port on zseires 09:40 < scythe_> only tcpip is good 09:40 < scythe_> this is the way suse , redhat and debian installs to z 09:40 < daja77> moin 09:40 < scythe_> hi daja77 09:41 < scythe_> so remote installs must bu possible 09:41 < SMP> morning 09:41 < scythe_> (bu=be) 09:41 < daja77> hi scythe & cchamilt_ 09:41 < SMP> hi scythe_ 09:41 * scythe_ hi SMP 09:41 < cchamilt_> hi daja and smp 09:41 < daja77> hi SMP 09:42 < cchamilt_> Well how does it do console over tcp - do they run telnet on their install cds? 09:42 < scythe_> no cds either - only tapes:) and yes, telnet. 09:42 < Mike1> moin SMP 09:42 < daja77> hey Mike1 09:42 < Mike1> daja77: ! 09:42 < Mike1> :) 09:43 < cchamilt_> interesting... we could make a telnet serving bootdisk pretty easily. 09:43 < scythe_> im planning it 09:43 < scythe_> will be needed for at least z 09:43 * SMP used to boot his SGI with telnetd as init ;-O 09:43 < cchamilt_> dhcp based network I assume. 09:43 * Mike1 planning to go parting tonight.. are you comming? 09:44 < scythe_> not a must, but can be 09:44 < scythe_> (i mean 4 dhcp) 09:44 < daja77> Mike1: I was at a party yesterday ^^ 09:45 < cchamilt_> hmm sounds really doable. dhcp and telnet - otherwise I am not sure how to setup the network for the boot disk. 09:45 < Mike1> another one won't hurt.. 09:45 < scythe_> on the dump term you can answer questions 09:45 < scythe_> dumb 09:45 < scythe_> i can send u deb's setup scripts 09:45 < cchamilt_> terminal doesn't support curses? 09:46 < scythe_> or download from debian.org/s390/bootdisk 09:46 < daja77> maybe but yesterday's party featured someone special ^^ 09:46 < SMP> dumb term? the zSeries I saw hat an OS/2 box built in :) 09:46 < cchamilt_> nah no nope got plenty of theoretical work for myself now. sorry :) 09:46 < scythe_> no curses: *line* based really dumb terminal 09:46 < scythe_> SMP: that's not an OS/2 box, trhat's th4e SE 09:47 < scythe_> SE means Support Elemnt, that is the BIOS setup for z 09:47 < scythe_> and that runs the dumb term in a window 09:47 < cchamilt_> what a beast. 09:47 < SMP> a window on the OS/2? 09:47 < scythe_> yes, that's correct 09:48 < scythe_> it's is called HMC - Harware Management Console 09:48 < scythe_> and it can only give a line based dumb terminal 09:48 < cchamilt_> anyway, I guess we could make a flat cli based install as well, but telnet does sound good. For dhcp and telnet, all you need is to modify linuxrc.sh to launch them with error checking. 09:48 < SMP> ah, I only remember a GUI to mess with VMs and DASDs and whatnot 09:49 < scythe_> thats HMC main function - defining Hardware Configuration for lpars 09:49 < scythe_> Lpars as Logical Partitions, for running multiple oses on 1 or more CPU's simultan. 09:50 < scythe_> VM's needs another stand alone software 09:51 < scythe_> on 1 box u can run 15 lpars and u can run virtually an unlimited number of VM's in one lpar running VM software 09:51 < scythe_> thalia ISP does this 09:51 < SMP> Tlia 09:51 < SMP> eh 09:51 < SMP> Telia 09:51 < scythe_> sorry 09:57 < scythe_> btw SMP: sorry for delaying the 390 port, but i have more work - not connected with linux - that i can do, so i have little time - but im doing it as i can. The good news that apollo is now runnig on it's dedicated ifl (linux cpu), so the builds are much faster now... 10:04 < scythe_> another question: anybody planning to create an evms package? 10:05 < SMP> hey, no sweat :) 10:05 < SMP> scythe_: cchamilt has one 10:05 < cchamilt_> it is waiting on me sending the patch to rxr, i have no email... 10:06 < scythe_> cchamilt: v2? 10:06 < cchamilt_> yep 10:06 < cchamilt_> against 2.4.22 with dm patches etc applying 10:06 < cchamilt_> bootdisk mods included so it is seemless. 10:07 < scythe_> cchamilt: i just installed it a week ago on z and found much better than lvm, so thank you for the work 10:07 < cchamilt_> yep rxr is going to die - adding it means adding glib to the bootdisk 10:08 < scythe_> :)) 10:09 < scythe_> i also had an idea for a new target (or whatever): ha for high avability: heartbeat, evms and such 10:10 < cchamilt_> yes, that would be good. I think mnemoc has been heading that way. he has keepalived and virtual server stuff. 10:11 < scythe_> will consult him in the future than 10:13 < scythe_> other pkgs i didnt found: cacti, 9wm, x3270 10:13 < SMP> send patches ;) 10:14 < cchamilt_> brb, icecream 10:14 < scythe_> SMP: beware, will do :) 10:15 < scythe_> (under which subdir will they go?) 10:16 < AOU> moin 10:16 < scythe_> hi 10:17 < cchamilt_> make a scythe one ? 10:17 < scythe_> SMP: now gcc3 doesn't build, providing the error that glibc did: all processes sleep. 10:18 < cchamilt_> hi ow 10:25 < AOU> hi cchamilt_ , scythe_ 10:26 < daja77> moin AOU 10:32 < AOU> hi daja77 10:34 < Mike1> Abend Eule! 10:37 * daja77 off now, cu all 10:41 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-42-43.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-42-43.reverse.qsc.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 10:47 < scythe_> ah, rxr, are u considering upgrading scripts/Download on svn, or does this process need a special event (eg the release of the next rc or such)? 10:49 < cchamilt_> brewnix will rulenix! 10:50 < scythe_> ms showed longhorn in LA. everybody loved it... sad 10:50 < cchamilt_> sorry i think i had too much icecream 10:53 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.42.75.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:54 < scythe_> dietlibc build segfaults... 10:57 < AOU> aaaaah. icecream. cchamilt_ - don't you want to send some icecream over to germany? *vbeg* 10:58 * cchamilt_ hands over icecream 11:00 < AOU> kewl. thx :) 11:00 * AOU is now doped with icecream *har* 11:01 < cchamilt_> Im coming off my high already. 11:01 < AOU> hmmm. is this a bad or a good fact? 11:02 < cchamilt_> good i guess for discussions sake. though i am going a little too low i think. 11:03 < AOU> hm. k. 11:08 < cchamilt_> yeah, i got perl5 working again. damn thing was confused over my glibc. 11:14 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.174.80.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 11:23 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900574A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:27 < AOU> hi trekkie3k 11:28 < trekkie3k> hi aouwl ;) 11:31 < blindcoder> moin 11:32 < Mike1> moin blindy 11:32 < AOU> aouwl? ohohoh. trekkie3k seems to need glasses 11:32 < AOU> hi blindy, Mike1 11:32 < Mike1> AOU: and untill now you greet me back.. 11:32 < blindcoder> hmm... where's esden when you need him? *grmpf* 11:33 < Mike1> blindcoder: at uni taking care of his thesis.. 11:33 < AOU> Mike1: oh... sorry... i didn't see you :-((( 11:34 < blindcoder> yeah... thought so >_< 11:36 < AOU> Mike1: how are you? 11:36 < Mike1> getting better from cold, and you ? 11:37 < AOU> hm. alive. thx. 11:44 < scythe_> SMP: still here? 12:37 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p5080104C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F988.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 12:38 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 13:01 < SMP> scythe_: yes 13:02 < scythe_> SMP: remember the ls | tr sleep bug? 13:03 < SMP> yep 13:03 < SMP> figured it out? 13:03 < scythe_> now looks like that ls got a bug 13:03 < SMP> huh 13:03 < scythe_> it fall asleep without redirecting the output 13:04 < scythe_> and only at build-pkd -this_is_2nd_run thing 13:04 < scythe_> pkg that is 13:05 < scythe_> i wrote "ls /" in build-pkg line 4, the first time it runs, than the 2nd time it is falling asleep 13:05 < scythe_> no | tr, no $vars, just ls / 13:07 < SMP> uh-uh 13:08 < scythe_> yup 13:18 < scythe_> and the only place where ls is called during -this_is_the_2nd run is at the patchfiles variable 13:21 < scythe_> and i found that if you list an empty directory, that works even at the second run... only non-empty dirs mean a problem ;-) 13:22 < SMP> I don't believe this to be a problem of /bin/ls 13:22 < SMP> can you strace the invocation to ls ? 13:23 < scythe_> im on it 13:24 < scythe_> the worrying is that empty dir listings work 13:25 < SMP> maybe because they don't produce any output 13:26 < scythe_> maybe 13:30 < scythe_> strace: lstat /etc/mtab, than sigprocmask, then sigsuspend, which looks strange: "rt_sigsuspend([]" and no closing )... 13:30 < scythe_> and that's it 13:31 < SMP> the syscall is not returning 13:31 < scythe_> yes 13:31 < scythe_> but i dont know y. glibc? 13:32 -!- hannes [~hannes@eperm.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:34 < scythe_> and anyway, why is it calling sigsuspend, what signal is it waiting for? 13:35 -!- AOU [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit "reconnect" 13:35 -!- AOU [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:36 < clifford> scythe_: can you reproduce the bug in a normal shell when you set LD_PRELOAD to the flist wrapper and FLWRAPPER_WLOG/FLWRAPPER_RLOG to writeable files? 13:36 < AOU> re 13:36 < scythe_> clifford: i'll try 13:37 < clifford> ..and is your build system NPLT based (like e.g. RH 9) ? 13:37 < Mike1> Abend clifford 13:37 < scythe_> clifford: debian 13:38 < clifford> Hi Mike1. It's lunchtime in vienna... ;-) 13:38 < clifford> sid oder woody ? 13:38 < Mike1> hehehe clifford well happyt meals them.. time for breakfast here :) 13:38 < scythe_> woody 3.0r1 on 390 13:39 < AOU> debian causes nothing but problems while compiling rock? O_o 13:39 < clifford> Mike1: please don't use the term "happy meal" - It reminds me to sun networking hardware... ;-) 13:40 < clifford> AOU: Seams like it does. 13:40 < Mike1> clifford: hehehe okis. 13:40 < Mike1> anyways folks i will take off now.. cu later. 13:40 < clifford> cu. 13:41 < Mike1> clifford: i'm starting to get some extra time.. hope there is vacancy for an old school team member to come back.. 13:44 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.62.140] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 13:49 < SMP> clifford: concerning the name change - what do you think of 'ROCK Operating Foundation' (or just short 'ROCK')? 13:50 < SMP> a rock makes a good place to build something on ;) 13:51 < clifford> the problem with "rock" is that you can't get any domains for it. 13:52 < SMP> the problem with !rock is, we have everything already named by that theme ;) 13:55 < scythe_> clifford: you were right, flwrapper with ld_preload kills ls in a single shell too... 13:57 < clifford> I'm afk for some time now (buying sth to eat). 13:57 < clifford> you might want to try running ltrace over it to see in which overloaded function (if any) the problem resists. 14:13 < scythe_> ? 14:19 < scythe_> okay, im just migrating from fl_frapper to strace for now... maybe a later time i'll go after this error 14:44 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-089.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:49 -!- hannes [~hannes@eperm.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 15:45 -!- scythe_ [firewall-u@cerberus.dunaferr.hu] has quit "will B back" 15:48 < rolla> re 15:59 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p508171D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:17 < daja77> hi rolla 16:17 < daja77> away 16:17 < daja77> damn 16:20 < cchamilt_> clifford:? 16:23 < cchamilt_> If rock wants to change its name to brewnix it can have the domains .org/.net/.com for it. It was going to be my marketing brand for selling my 'custom' linux services. 16:24 < daja77> brewnix??! 16:25 < rolla> hallo daja77 16:26 < rolla> Finishing build. 16:26 < rolla> -> Creating package database ... 16:26 < rolla> -> Creating isofs.txt file .. 16:26 < daja77> hehe 16:40 < daja77> blindcoder: you here? 16:49 < blindcoder> daja77: more or less 17:18 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a94.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:35 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivek0i.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < daja77> ic 17:44 < daja77> blindcoder: just noticed chksum err in hddtemp 17:46 < rolla> yawn 17:47 * daja77 grins at rolla 17:47 < rolla> == 09:49:19 =[1]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-rc1]. 17:47 < rolla> daja77: does linux26 build for you? 17:47 < daja77> dunno just started :) 17:48 < rolla> oh let me know if yours does 17:48 < rolla> mine failed 17:48 < daja77> will do 18:01 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-089.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 18:02 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-053-044.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:07 < cytrinox`> moin 18:36 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-030.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:45 < rolla> asqwertzuipoü+##äölkj-.,mnbßÖL_:;'*ÜÜQ°^!"§$%&/(/// 18:45 < rolla> crap 18:47 < rolla> finally got this damn keyboard worked out 18:47 < rolla> how do you germans use unix with the / being above the 7? 18:48 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-030.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 18:48 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-030.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:54 -!- linDude [~muhu@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-053-044.arcor-ip.net] has quit No route to host 19:11 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivek0i.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 19:12 < rxr_> re 19:13 < rxr_> rolla: this works quite ok - or we use the us layout ... 19:22 < rolla> ah 19:22 < rolla> then how do you use german chars? 19:37 -!- irch_46 [~irch_46@irchive.it.hiit.fi] has joined #rocklinux 19:38 < cchamilt_> rxr_:Single line change for cracklib 19:38 < cchamilt_> rxr_: cp -f cracklib/packer.h /usr/include after the lib copy 19:39 < cchamilt_> This lets php build against cracklib 19:40 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABE11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: irch_46, cytrinox` 19:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: irch_46, cytrinox` 19:45 -!- irch_46 [~irch_46@irchive.it.hiit.fi] has quit Client Quit 19:49 < tcr> ../cxx/cxx_app.cpp:260: exception handling disabled, use -fexceptions to enable 19:49 < tcr> make: *** [cxx_app.lo] Error 1 19:49 < tcr> --- BUILD ERROR --- 19:49 < tcr> when building bdb3.3 19:49 < tcr> with gcc 3.2.3 19:50 < tcr> Anyone a clue? 19:54 < cchamilt_> That is a new one... No clue. 19:58 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uivenp0.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 < tcr> cchamilt_, hmm.. building it by hand (in src.bdb*/R.src/bd*/ 20:14 < tcr> is successfull 20:26 < tcr> cchamilt_, found out what's caused that 20:27 < tcr> cchamilt_, in anyway 'Disable exceptiona nd rtti in C++' got enabled. 20:27 < cchamilt_> what was it? 20:27 < cchamilt_> OK 20:29 < AOU> remoin 20:30 < cchamilt_> hi aou 20:33 -!- starlord [~starlord@fj68.netikka.fi] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 -!- starlord [~starlord@fj68.netikka.fi] has left #rocklinux [] 20:55 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p508171D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ":x" 20:59 < tcr> Ok, found a bug in the config process 20:59 < tcr> that's responsible for an automatically setting of 'Disable exceptions [...]' 20:59 < tcr> Gonna send an email to the ml 21:04 < rolla> cool 21:36 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD90056E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:40 < rolla> grrr my boot build failed 21:42 < rolla> anyone about? 21:44 < tcr> rolla: I built one succesfully yesterday 21:44 < rolla> hmm 21:45 < tcr> Are you using a recent svn checkout? 21:45 < tcr> Mine were two or three days old 21:51 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900574A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 22:10 < rxr_> re 22:10 < daja77> re 22:10 < daja77> hey rxr :) 22:13 < daja77> rxr_: /me was at a fedora talk yesterday, that project is a mess, I am glad I choose rock :) 22:14 < tcr> moin rxr 'nd daja77. 22:14 < tcr> daja77, what's fedora? 22:14 < daja77> hi tcr 22:14 < daja77> rh community project 22:18 < daja77> they aim towards an automatic build system, but in fact they build all their packages _manually_ !!! 22:22 < tcr> ./popt -I../zlib -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstric 22:22 < tcr> t-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-char-subscripts -c poptALL.c -MT poptALL. 22:22 < tcr> lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/poptALL.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/poptALL.lo 22:22 < tcr> poptALL.c: In function `rpmcliInit': 22:22 < tcr> poptALL.c:338: syntax error before ';' token 22:22 < tcr> make[3]: *** [poptALL.lo] Error 1 22:23 < tcr> make[3]: Leaving directory `/R.src/rpm-4.1/lib' 22:23 < daja77> no comment .. 22:23 < rxr_> cchamilt_: I did the cracklib modifications and cleaned it up 22:23 < rxr_> commit after a test 22:24 < tcr> Is that known, rxr_? 22:24 < rxr_> tcr: I do not think so 22:24 < rxr_> do you use gcc33 ? 22:25 < tcr> 3.2.3 22:25 < tcr> I can't find anything wrong on line 338 (and around) in that file 22:31 -!- ThePcktMstr [~zen@user-2ivepc6.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:34 < daja77> tcr: optimization bug? 22:35 < tcr> It's reproducible at least. 22:35 < tcr> daja77, Do you think? I'm using pIII opts 22:36 < daja77> on which hw? 22:38 < tcr> athlon xp 22:39 < daja77> *cough* this will _not_ work 22:40 < daja77> pentium3 optimization even failed when i did it on a pentium4 22:40 < tcr> why that? 22:41 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uivenp0.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 22:41 < tcr> What do you mean with "not working"? Not building, or not woking on a pIII machine? 22:41 < daja77> cos the penmtium3 optimized gcc is executed on your athlon and producing crap 22:43 < tcr> Oh, I thought the things in tools.native will be used 22:44 < daja77> afaik you would need a real cross build for that 22:44 < tcr> or tools.cross 22:44 < tcr> Ok. I thought that's just necessary for really different architectures 22:46 < tcr> daja77, Apparantly, you're right. I had a different idea what the things in tools.{cross,native} are there for 22:59 -!- pieass [~pieass@dialin-212-144-083-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:04 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit "leaving" 23:08 < rxr_> huh? esden what's up ? 23:08 < daja77> ahem think he can't hear you :)) 23:08 < pieass> right 23:08 < rxr_> daja77: yes obviously ... 23:09 < rxr_> SMP: is a 2.4.22-ipsec patch of any need for you? 23:09 < daja77> esden said sth recently of bein off from rock for a while 23:11 < rxr_> hm - maybe the uni stuff fills too much time over there ... 23:11 < rxr_> but I guess this is just some kind of update or so on some server (or simillar ...) 23:12 < daja77> might be true :) 23:18 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 23:33 -!- hannes [~hannes@eperm.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:35 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABE11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 23:37 < rxr_> ok - cu and good night 23:37 < pieass> gn8 23:38 < daja77> n8 rxr 23:54 < daja77> gn8 you all 23:54 < pieass> gn8 --- Log closed Don Okt 30 00:00:28 2003