--- Log opened Sam Nov 01 00:00:03 2003
00:01 < tcr> btw. Harald Schmidt... in some minutes..
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00:43 < AOU> wb pieass 
00:46 < pieass> re
00:46  * pieass downloaded 1,6GB @internet cafe
00:47 < AOU> pieass: *kick*
00:47 < pieass> ...and payed 3 EUR for 2 colas
00:47 < AOU> 2058 builds total, 455 completed fine, 43 with errors.
00:47 < AOU> gnarf
00:54 < pieass> i had taken an ip-address from the dhcp server, but then someone came and said, that the windows-computers are all fscked up, and i should take one ip-address from the "zettel"
00:55 < pieass> it's a saftladen
00:56 < AOU> *rofl*
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00:58 < AOU> hi elon 
00:58 < pieass> hi
00:58 < elon> hi all
01:04 < pieass> gn8 all
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01:13 < A-Tui> hola
01:14 < AOU> hi A-Tui 
01:15 < A-Tui> hi AOU
01:17 < Mike1> buenas noches Don Aitor :)
01:18 < A-Tui> hola Mike1, que tal todo?
01:18 < A-Tui> ops sorry, how are you?
01:18 < Mike1> todo muy bien gracias a Dios, y tu?
01:18 < A-Tui> did you try the scripts?
01:18 < A-Tui> Mike1: me fine thanks
01:18 < A-Tui> now having cofee :)
01:18 < Mike1> i didn't get anything!
01:19 < Mike1> A-Tui: where did you send that stuff?
01:19 < A-Tui> mmm at you mail on rocklinux
01:19 < Mike1> hehehe..oh i don't check that mail too often
01:20 < Mike1> A-Tui: see query for a more up to date mail
01:21 < Mike1> OK so tonight i am parting.. so be back later. :)
01:21 < A-Tui> ok Mike1
01:21 < A-Tui> see you later
01:22 < Mike1> OK got it all, well revie later tonight or tomorrow
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02:23 < mnemoc> passwd: Module is unknown
02:23 < mnemoc> aargh.... :(
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03:38 < daja77> re
03:41 < daja77> rxr: build started
03:41  * daja77 off to bed now, cu
03:45 < A-Tui> hola daja77
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08:24 < alex__> Hello
09:08 < alex__> Is it true that rock linux was the first source based distro of Linux?
09:08 < alex__> The info I have is contradictory.
09:39 < rxr> re
09:39 < rxr> alex__: yes - possible
09:40 < alex__> :)
09:40 < alex__> I think that it would look nice together with NetBSD on my machine. :)
09:43 < rxr> ;-) have fun
09:43 < alex__> :))
09:43 < alex__> It's 2340, I'll go to sleep. :) bye
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10:16 < netrunner> hm? my build has 58 errs already??
10:18 < netrunner> a lot of packages abort with "glib12 is not installed (in prefix usr)!"
10:20 < netrunner> to be more exact: 32 packages complained about this
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11:41 < AOU> moin
11:41 < AOU> 2058 builds total, 560 completed fine, 77 with errors.
11:41 < AOU> ^^^ wtf is _that_?
11:42 < blindcoder> if I should guess, it's the complete number of builds in your configuration
11:42 < AOU> blindcoder: *kick*
11:42 < AOU> i mean the many errors
11:42 < blindcoder> you pointed to the 2058 
11:43 < blindcoder> 09:24 < netrunner> a lot of packages abort with "glib12 is not installed (in prefix usr)!"
11:43 < AOU> *grmpf* i pointed to the above line
11:43 < blindcoder> that should be your answer then
11:43 < AOU> hrm. k.
11:43 < AOU> *fluch*
11:43 < blindcoder> must havet something to do with the gnome update
11:44 < AOU> hrmpf. 
11:44 < AOU> why updated it? in a pre-stable version??? 
11:44 < blindcoder> don't ask me
11:45 < AOU> even my fscking company knows what 'feature-freezes' are... but #rocklinux seems not to have learned... (even if the people saw what happend with rock-1.5, never released rock-1.6-stable... because of it was unstable caused by "i want to have the latest packages in this rock-version")
11:46  * AOU jumps out of the cellar-window
11:46 < AOU> d'ouh
11:46 < AOU> *headshaking*
11:48 < rxr> re
11:48 < AOU> hi rxr 
11:49 < rxr> AOU: I thought you have finally rm -rf rock-src and now you are complaining again ...
11:50 < AOU> rxr: nope. i didn't remove them... i updated them regularly... because i'm too lazy to download everything i might need by hand
11:51 < AOU> rxr: any argumentation available from your side, expect "wtf are you building rock again"?
11:53 < daja77> moin
11:53 < AOU> hi daja77 
11:54 < daja77> hi owl
11:59 < netrunner> rxr: have you read my comments from around 09:24?
11:59 < netrunner> moin rxr, daja77  btw
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11:08 < rxr> netrunner: nope not yet
11:08 < AOU> ttp://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/studium/0,1518,272191,00.html << without any comment
11:08 < rxr> AOU: my argument is that yes, the gnome24 update did cause some problems - but they will be fixed within some days
11:09 < rxr> and if you would help maybe sooner ...
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11:09 < rxr> netrunner: might / should be fixed in HEAD
11:11 < daja77> hmm do you think it is good to release rc2 with that many broken packages?
11:11 < AOU> .oO("no, of course not")
11:12 < daja77> AOU: to be honest I personally do not miss the gnome packages that much ^^
11:12 < AOU> daja77: /me not too... but i'm just scared if i see "xxx errors"
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11:13 < AOU> hi nookie !
11:13 < daja77> the only thing that is interesiting for me if showstopper packages are involved in this, but my build hasn't made that much progress to say sth about that
11:13 < daja77> hi nookie 
11:14 < netrunner> I cannot download download/base/alsa/alsa-oss-0.9.7.tar.bz2 :(
11:14 < netrunner> neither from original source nor from the leo.org mirror
11:16 < nookie> Heya daja77, AOU :)
11:16 < netrunner> (it is even outdated, current is 0.9.8)
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11:16 < AOU> true: *kick*
11:30 < blindcoder> love must be beautiful :P
11:31  * netrunner updated alsa in his tree and scheduled it into the current build. if it goes ok, there'll be a patch tonight.
11:33 < rxr> ok netrunner updating
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11:37 < AOU> blindcoder: sure ;p
11:38 < AOU> http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,272180,00.html << *rofl* read this, you will laugh your ass off
11:40 < AOU> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,272012,00.html << help
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11:44 < LocalHero> Hi all
11:51 < AOU> moin LocalHero 
11:51 < AOU> how are you?
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12:09 < Be-El> hi ppl
12:10 < AOU> hi blindcoder 
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12:13 < LocalHero> AOU, fine thanx and you?
12:14 < LocalHero> hmm, could people take a look at http://beta.hightech.nu and tell me if its better or worse
12:15 < AOU> LocalHero: hm. alive. thx
12:16 < AOU> better imho
12:16 < netrunner> LocalHero: looks nice, but an option to add user comments would be nice for each dir. shouldn't be that hard, no?
12:24 < LocalHero> netrunner, yupp, I will fix that l8er on :)
12:25 < Be-El> and a working 2.0-final would be nice ;-)
12:26 < Be-El> yesterdays svn update has introduced a nice loop in sourcing this crappy .conf files for gnome-24....
12:43 < LocalHero> Be-El,, hehe, i think so to :)
12:46 < Be-El> LocalHero: what do you think is the better solution in this case ? patching about 3-4 .conf files (until the next update breaks things again), or putting it all together in one single file (e.g. only gnome-24.conf) ?
12:52 < LocalHero> Be-El,, hmm, well, hmm, thats hard to say. Lets say that you stuff it all into a big file. Then users will have problem if they want to upgrade only one package
12:52 < LocalHero> Be-El, but my experience with gnome is that if you tuch a single content everything fails so i would prefere a single file :)
12:53 < Be-El> LocalHero: with several files you have to take care not to introduce source loops, as it has happened for gtk+...
12:53 < Be-El> gtk+.conf sourced gnome-24.conf, which sourced gtk+.conf.....
12:57 < LocalHero> Be-El, hmm, oki, then we might need a loop detection system?
12:58 < Be-El> yeap, something like that
12:58 < Be-El> perhabs some build function that does the sourcing and protocols which .conf file has been sourced so far
12:59 < Be-El> afaik the problem only affects gnome-24 'til now, since the whole gtk+, gconf and scrollkeeper stuff needs a special handling
13:01 < daja77> yep a bogon ray absorber ^^
13:01 < Mike1> mmmm..
13:02 < Be-El> a clean and superior solution would be similar to the postsysfiles handling.....certain packages may register handlers for setting up certain stuff, e.g. prefix pathes
13:02 < Be-El> the .conf files just include the handler to their configuration and add their own stuff
13:03 < Be-El> hi mike1
13:04 < daja77> hi Mike1 :)
13:05 < Be-El> or everyone who commits a patch that fails has to pay a beer at the next cccamp ;-)
13:05 < Mike1> moin folks
13:05 < daja77> Be-El: congress not camp ^^
13:05 < Be-El> daja77: oops...you're right...
13:06 < daja77> :)
13:06 < Be-El> for the camp these people have to sponsor some bbq stuff ;-)
13:07 < daja77> bbq was forbidden iirc
13:07 < Be-El> .oO ( thanks god i haven't attended there.... )
13:09 < daja77> :)
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13:46 < cytrinox> moin
13:46 < mnemox> moin
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13:54 < LocalHero> rxr, could you add .iso files for the rc1 aswell?
13:57 < LocalHero> Anybody have any nice isos newer than rc1?
14:01 < daja77> not yet ^^
14:05 < LocalHero> got to go, cya all
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14:05 < Be-El> re
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17:03 < AOU> remoin
17:03 < Be-El> re owl
17:04 < AOU> thx
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17:17 < blindcoder> hi
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17:17 < Be-El> re blindcoder 
17:22 < mnemox> grep ifconfig /var/adm/flists/* ?
17:23 < mnemox> re all :)
17:23 < blindcoder> d'ouh
17:23 < Be-El> mnemox: net-tools....hi btw
17:24 < blindcoder> just found in a .bash_history: cat /var/log/messages | reboot
17:24 < mnemox> o_O
17:24 < netrunner> blindcoder: you are bizarr
17:24 < blindcoder> netrunner: not me... just found it in one
17:33 < nookie> I need a name for my server
17:33 < netrunner> blindcoder: go away from my .bash_history
17:33 < nookie> Tell me one
17:34 < blindcoder> nookie: crazyhorse
17:34 < nookie> Hmm
17:34 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... no it wasn't yours...
17:35 < AOU> nookie: thor
17:35 < blindcoder> nookie: hades and olymp as redundant servers
17:35 < AOU> hi blindy
17:35 < AOU> hi linDude 
17:35 < blindcoder> hi owly
17:35 < nookie> blindcoder: Hmm
17:36 < nookie> That's good
17:36 < nookie> My Router is called "Zeus" :)
17:39 < blindcoder> c
17:39 < blindcoder> oops
17:40 < rxr> re
17:42 < nookie> hmm
17:42 < nookie> I call the server "hercules" :)
17:42 < Be-El> call it hephaistos, if it is a production server ;-)
17:44 < rxr> netrunner: your patch miss the patch - but ALSA is already updated anyway ...
17:44 < rxr> cu
17:45 < blindcoder> that was fast :)
17:45 < mnemox> rxr: when will you commit jimmy's patches?
17:55 < mnemox> he run away :(
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18:15 < rxr> mnemox: hi
18:15 < rxr> I'll review them soon
18:17 < AOU> WTF?!!! why is there a broken modutils??? what a crap!
18:28 < blindcoder> oh, it broke more than once here, usually due to defunct custom kernel configs
18:29 < AOU> hrmpf. hrmpf. hrmpf.
18:29 < AOU> .oO(pre-stable)
18:30 < AOU> <laughing ironically>
18:31 < blindcoder> you needn't use it, do you?
18:32 < AOU> i don't... but i wanted to have a look at it. to have something i can laugh about
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18:33 < AOU> hi mnemoc 
18:34 < mnemoc> hi $owl
18:39 < rxr> re
18:41 < rxr> AOU: if you want to get lovely words from us you should not offend us all the time
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19:24 < mnemoc> which is the official scope of $var in while read var; do; foo; done; ?
19:27 < blindcoder> until done
19:28 < mnemoc> so, no uset is need
19:28 < mnemoc> needed
19:28 < blindcoder> it isn't
19:28 < tcr> moin all
19:28 < mnemoc> moin tcr
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19:52 < AOU> hi ringo !!!!
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20:13 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
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20:13 [ _spectre_ ] [ BL|away ] [ Freak  ] [ mistik1  ] [ ringo  ] [ snyke    ] 
20:13 [ Aard      ] [ clifford] [ hannes ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rolla  ] [ tcr      ] 
20:13 [ AOU       ] [ cytrinox] [ kasc   ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr    ] [ trekkie3k] 
20:13 [ aszlig    ] [ daja77  ] [ linDude] [ netrunner] [ scoopex] 
20:13 [ blindcoder] [ esden   ] [ Mike1  ] [ nookie   ] [ SMP    ] 
20:13 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal]
20:13 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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20:19 < rxr> any votes for an exim user-id ?
20:21 < mnemoc> we need a better/smart way to auto-add things to /etc/passwd
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20:25 < rxr> ok - so I use 30
20:26 < mnemoc> i did something for /etc/inittab (install_init stuff)... the installer creates a file at /etc/.inittab/ and sysfiles generated inittab using what is found at /etc/.inittab/*
20:27 < mnemoc> maybe we can use such method to add stuff to 'all' sysfiles
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20:30 < mnemoc> gotta go :( ... please think about it
20:30 < mnemoc> bbl
20:36 < rxr>  - updated nautilus (2.4.1) and gnome-vfs (2.4.1) in the hope this reduces 
20:36 < rxr>    the ongoing seg-faults ...
20:36 < rxr> oops sorry
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22:23 < fake> hi
22:23 < AOU> hi fake ! *waves*
22:23 < fake> who is AOU ?
22:24 < AOU> <-- owl
22:24 < fake> ah, hi owl
22:24 < AOU> (aka: asshole of universe)
22:31 < rxr> hi fake
22:34 < fake> hi rene
23:21 < rxr> re
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23:56 < netrunne1> self-enlightenment is the first step to the truth :)
23:59 -!- You're now known as netrunner
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