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--- Log opened Sam Nov 01 00:00:03 2003 00:01 < tcr> btw. Harald Schmidt... in some minutes.. 00:02 -!- pieass [~pieass@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:8000:0:d44e:67c8] has quit Client Quit 00:42 -!- pieass [~pieass@dialin-212-144-083-100.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:43 < AOU> wb pieass 00:46 < pieass> re 00:46 * pieass downloaded 1,6GB @internet cafe 00:47 < AOU> pieass: *kick* 00:47 < pieass> ...and payed 3 EUR for 2 colas 00:47 < AOU> 2058 builds total, 455 completed fine, 43 with errors. 00:47 < AOU> gnarf 00:54 < pieass> i had taken an ip-address from the dhcp server, but then someone came and said, that the windows-computers are all fscked up, and i should take one ip-address from the "zettel" 00:55 < pieass> it's a saftladen 00:56 < AOU> *rofl* 00:58 -!- elon [~afgh@dialin-145-254-059-219.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:58 < AOU> hi elon 00:58 < pieass> hi 00:58 < elon> hi all 01:04 < pieass> gn8 all 01:04 -!- pieass [~pieass@dialin-212-144-083-100.arcor-ip.net] has quit "leaving" 01:10 -!- elon [~afgh@dialin-145-254-059-219.arcor-ip.net] has quit 01:12 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 01:13 < A-Tui> hola 01:14 < AOU> hi A-Tui 01:15 < A-Tui> hi AOU 01:17 < Mike1> buenas noches Don Aitor :) 01:18 < A-Tui> hola Mike1, que tal todo? 01:18 < A-Tui> ops sorry, how are you? 01:18 < Mike1> todo muy bien gracias a Dios, y tu? 01:18 < A-Tui> did you try the scripts? 01:18 < A-Tui> Mike1: me fine thanks 01:18 < A-Tui> now having cofee :) 01:18 < Mike1> i didn't get anything! 01:19 < Mike1> A-Tui: where did you send that stuff? 01:19 < A-Tui> mmm at you mail on rocklinux 01:19 < Mike1> hehehe..oh i don't check that mail too often 01:20 < Mike1> A-Tui: see query for a more up to date mail 01:21 < Mike1> OK so tonight i am parting.. so be back later. :) 01:21 < A-Tui> ok Mike1 01:21 < A-Tui> see you later 01:22 < Mike1> OK got it all, well revie later tonight or tomorrow 01:36 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivel3h.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:40 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9024.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Leaving" 01:54 -!- AOU [~owl@D7084.d.pppool.de] has quit "gnu8" 02:14 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivel3h.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:14 -!- __mnemoc is now known as mnemoc 02:23 < mnemoc> passwd: Module is unknown 02:23 < mnemoc> aargh.... :( 02:35 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005712.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:37 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD950289D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:41 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091c9c.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 03:21 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950EA29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:23 -!- dennis [dennis@pD950EA29.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux [] 03:38 < daja77> re 03:41 < daja77> rxr: build started 03:41 * daja77 off to bed now, cu 03:45 < A-Tui> hola daja77 04:33 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-213.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:39 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-147.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:54 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD950289D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 04:55 -!- _spectre_ [ctipneea@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:59 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 05:24 -!- spectre [kyqcwsle@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:24 -!- spectre [kyqcwsle@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Client Quit 05:55 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox 05:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox 05:58 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.101.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit "Client exiting" 06:02 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.101.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:56 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-154.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:16 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-060.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 08:24 -!- alex__ [~alex@4.5.70.172] has joined #rocklinux 08:24 < alex__> Hello 09:08 < alex__> Is it true that rock linux was the first source based distro of Linux? 09:08 < alex__> The info I have is contradictory. 09:39 < rxr> re 09:39 < rxr> alex__: yes - possible 09:40 < alex__> :) 09:40 < alex__> I think that it would look nice together with NetBSD on my machine. :) 09:43 < rxr> ;-) have fun 09:43 < alex__> :)) 09:43 < alex__> It's 2340, I'll go to sleep. :) bye 09:44 -!- alex__ [~alex@4.5.70.172] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 10:16 < netrunner> hm? my build has 58 errs already?? 10:18 < netrunner> a lot of packages abort with "glib12 is not installed (in prefix usr)!" 10:20 < netrunner> to be more exact: 32 packages complained about this 11:00 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: snyke 11:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: snyke 11:40 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, blindcoder, true, Mike1, Nebukadneza2 11:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, Nebukadneza2, Mike1, rolla, true 11:41 -!- AOU [~owl@D030a.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:41 < AOU> moin 11:41 < AOU> 2058 builds total, 560 completed fine, 77 with errors. 11:41 < AOU> ^^^ wtf is _that_? 11:42 < blindcoder> if I should guess, it's the complete number of builds in your configuration 11:42 < AOU> blindcoder: *kick* 11:42 < AOU> i mean the many errors 11:42 < blindcoder> you pointed to the 2058 11:43 < blindcoder> 09:24 < netrunner> a lot of packages abort with "glib12 is not installed (in prefix usr)!" 11:43 < AOU> *grmpf* i pointed to the above line 11:43 < blindcoder> that should be your answer then 11:43 < AOU> hrm. k. 11:43 < AOU> *fluch* 11:43 < blindcoder> must havet something to do with the gnome update 11:44 < AOU> hrmpf. 11:44 < AOU> why updated it? in a pre-stable version??? 11:44 < blindcoder> don't ask me 11:45 < AOU> even my fscking company knows what 'feature-freezes' are... but #rocklinux seems not to have learned... (even if the people saw what happend with rock-1.5, never released rock-1.6-stable... because of it was unstable caused by "i want to have the latest packages in this rock-version") 11:46 * AOU jumps out of the cellar-window 11:46 < AOU> d'ouh 11:46 < AOU> *headshaking* 11:48 < rxr> re 11:48 < AOU> hi rxr 11:49 < rxr> AOU: I thought you have finally rm -rf rock-src and now you are complaining again ... 11:50 < AOU> rxr: nope. i didn't remove them... i updated them regularly... because i'm too lazy to download everything i might need by hand 11:51 < AOU> rxr: any argumentation available from your side, expect "wtf are you building rock again"? 11:53 < daja77> moin 11:53 < AOU> hi daja77 11:54 < daja77> hi owl 11:59 < netrunner> rxr: have you read my comments from around 09:24? 11:59 < netrunner> moin rxr, daja77 btw 11:06 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm150.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit "ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030331]" 11:08 < rxr> netrunner: nope not yet 11:08 < AOU> ttp://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/studium/0,1518,272191,00.html << without any comment 11:08 < rxr> AOU: my argument is that yes, the gnome24 update did cause some problems - but they will be fixed within some days 11:09 < rxr> and if you would help maybe sooner ... 11:09 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091b97.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:09 < rxr> netrunner: might / should be fixed in HEAD 11:11 < daja77> hmm do you think it is good to release rc2 with that many broken packages? 11:11 < AOU> .oO("no, of course not") 11:12 < daja77> AOU: to be honest I personally do not miss the gnome packages that much ^^ 11:12 < AOU> daja77: /me not too... but i'm just scared if i see "xxx errors" 11:13 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M364P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:13 < AOU> hi nookie ! 11:13 < daja77> the only thing that is interesiting for me if showstopper packages are involved in this, but my build hasn't made that much progress to say sth about that 11:13 < daja77> hi nookie 11:14 < netrunner> I cannot download download/base/alsa/alsa-oss-0.9.7.tar.bz2 :( 11:14 < netrunner> neither from original source nor from the leo.org mirror 11:16 < nookie> Heya daja77, AOU :) 11:16 < netrunner> (it is even outdated, current is 0.9.8) 11:16 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has quit "Lost terminal" 11:16 < AOU> true: *kick* 11:30 < blindcoder> love must be beautiful :P 11:31 * netrunner updated alsa in his tree and scheduled it into the current build. if it goes ok, there'll be a patch tonight. 11:33 < rxr> ok netrunner updating 11:34 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-154.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 11:37 < AOU> blindcoder: sure ;p 11:38 < AOU> https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,272180,00.html << *rofl* read this, you will laugh your ass off 11:40 < AOU> https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,272012,00.html << help 11:44 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 11:44 < LocalHero> Hi all 11:51 < AOU> moin LocalHero 11:51 < AOU> how are you? 11:52 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-125.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:09 -!- Be-El [be-el@p5082B3B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:09 < Be-El> hi ppl 12:10 < AOU> hi blindcoder 12:10 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M364P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "leaving" 12:10 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F753.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "shut down for fsck" 12:13 < LocalHero> AOU, fine thanx and you? 12:14 < LocalHero> hmm, could people take a look at https://beta.hightech.nu and tell me if its better or worse 12:15 < AOU> LocalHero: hm. alive. thx 12:16 < AOU> better imho 12:16 < netrunner> LocalHero: looks nice, but an option to add user comments would be nice for each dir. shouldn't be that hard, no? 12:24 < LocalHero> netrunner, yupp, I will fix that l8er on :) 12:25 < Be-El> and a working 2.0-final would be nice ;-) 12:26 < Be-El> yesterdays svn update has introduced a nice loop in sourcing this crappy .conf files for gnome-24.... 12:43 < LocalHero> Be-El,, hehe, i think so to :) 12:46 < Be-El> LocalHero: what do you think is the better solution in this case ? patching about 3-4 .conf files (until the next update breaks things again), or putting it all together in one single file (e.g. only gnome-24.conf) ? 12:52 < LocalHero> Be-El,, hmm, well, hmm, thats hard to say. Lets say that you stuff it all into a big file. Then users will have problem if they want to upgrade only one package 12:52 < LocalHero> Be-El, but my experience with gnome is that if you tuch a single content everything fails so i would prefere a single file :) 12:53 < Be-El> LocalHero: with several files you have to take care not to introduce source loops, as it has happened for gtk+... 12:53 < Be-El> gtk+.conf sourced gnome-24.conf, which sourced gtk+.conf..... 12:57 < LocalHero> Be-El, hmm, oki, then we might need a loop detection system? 12:58 < Be-El> yeap, something like that 12:58 < Be-El> perhabs some build function that does the sourcing and protocols which .conf file has been sourced so far 12:59 < Be-El> afaik the problem only affects gnome-24 'til now, since the whole gtk+, gconf and scrollkeeper stuff needs a special handling 13:01 < daja77> yep a bogon ray absorber ^^ 13:01 < Mike1> mmmm.. 13:02 < Be-El> a clean and superior solution would be similar to the postsysfiles handling.....certain packages may register handlers for setting up certain stuff, e.g. prefix pathes 13:02 < Be-El> the .conf files just include the handler to their configuration and add their own stuff 13:03 < Be-El> hi mike1 13:04 < daja77> hi Mike1 :) 13:05 < Be-El> or everyone who commits a patch that fails has to pay a beer at the next cccamp ;-) 13:05 < Mike1> moin folks 13:05 < daja77> Be-El: congress not camp ^^ 13:05 < Be-El> daja77: oops...you're right... 13:06 < daja77> :) 13:06 < Be-El> for the camp these people have to sponsor some bbq stuff ;-) 13:07 < daja77> bbq was forbidden iirc 13:07 < Be-El> .oO ( thanks god i haven't attended there.... ) 13:09 < daja77> :) 13:16 -!- AOU_ [~owl@D72a8.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:18 -!- AOU_ [~owl@D72a8.d.pppool.de] has quit Client Quit 13:26 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD950289D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:38 -!- AOU [~owl@D030a.d.pppool.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 13:39 -!- mnemoc is now known as mnemox 13:46 < cytrinox> moin 13:46 < mnemox> moin 13:48 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F676.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < LocalHero> rxr, could you add .iso files for the rc1 aswell? 13:57 < LocalHero> Anybody have any nice isos newer than rc1? 14:01 < daja77> not yet ^^ 14:05 < LocalHero> got to go, cya all 14:05 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit 14:05 < Be-El> re 14:07 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.101.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 14:37 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 14:54 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit 15:08 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.173.7.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:28 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M364P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:36 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-125.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 15:45 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F676.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "quit for badblocks(8)" 16:21 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M364P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "leaving" 16:29 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M364P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:03 -!- AOU [~owl@D72a8.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:03 < AOU> remoin 17:03 < Be-El> re owl 17:04 < AOU> thx 17:17 -!- blindcoder [~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:17 < blindcoder> hi 17:17 -!- linDude [~muhu@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:17 < Be-El> re blindcoder 17:22 < mnemox> grep ifconfig /var/adm/flists/* ? 17:23 < mnemox> re all :) 17:23 < blindcoder> d'ouh 17:23 < Be-El> mnemox: net-tools....hi btw 17:24 < blindcoder> just found in a .bash_history: cat /var/log/messages | reboot 17:24 < mnemox> o_O 17:24 < netrunner> blindcoder: you are bizarr 17:24 < blindcoder> netrunner: not me... just found it in one 17:33 < nookie> I need a name for my server 17:33 < netrunner> blindcoder: go away from my .bash_history 17:33 < nookie> Tell me one 17:34 < blindcoder> nookie: crazyhorse 17:34 < nookie> Hmm 17:34 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... no it wasn't yours... 17:35 < AOU> nookie: thor 17:35 < blindcoder> nookie: hades and olymp as redundant servers 17:35 < AOU> hi blindy 17:35 < AOU> hi linDude 17:35 < blindcoder> hi owly 17:35 < nookie> blindcoder: Hmm 17:36 < nookie> That's good 17:36 < nookie> My Router is called "Zeus" :) 17:39 < blindcoder> c 17:39 < blindcoder> oops 17:40 < rxr> re 17:42 < nookie> hmm 17:42 < nookie> I call the server "hercules" :) 17:42 < Be-El> call it hephaistos, if it is a production server ;-) 17:44 < rxr> netrunner: your patch miss the patch - but ALSA is already updated anyway ... 17:44 < rxr> cu 17:45 < blindcoder> that was fast :) 17:45 < mnemox> rxr: when will you commit jimmy's patches? 17:55 < mnemox> he run away :( 18:00 -!- Be-El is now known as BL|away 18:06 -!- _spectre_ [ihzggt@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:15 < rxr> mnemox: hi 18:15 < rxr> I'll review them soon 18:17 < AOU> WTF?!!! why is there a broken modutils??? what a crap! 18:28 < blindcoder> oh, it broke more than once here, usually due to defunct custom kernel configs 18:29 < AOU> hrmpf. hrmpf. hrmpf. 18:29 < AOU> .oO(pre-stable) 18:30 < AOU> <laughing ironically> 18:31 < blindcoder> you needn't use it, do you? 18:32 < AOU> i don't... but i wanted to have a look at it. to have something i can laugh about 18:33 -!- mnemox is now known as mnemoc 18:33 < AOU> hi mnemoc 18:34 < mnemoc> hi $owl 18:39 < rxr> re 18:41 < rxr> AOU: if you want to get lovely words from us you should not offend us all the time 19:24 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAC6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:24 < mnemoc> which is the official scope of $var in while read var; do; foo; done; ? 19:27 < blindcoder> until done 19:28 < mnemoc> so, no uset is need 19:28 < mnemoc> needed 19:28 < blindcoder> it isn't 19:28 < tcr> moin all 19:28 < mnemoc> moin tcr 19:46 -!- ringo [~mooooh@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:52 < AOU> hi ringo !!!! 20:13 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802B62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:13 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 20:13 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 20:13 [Users #rocklinux] 20:13 [ _spectre_ ] [ BL|away ] [ Freak ] [ mistik1 ] [ ringo ] [ snyke ] 20:13 [ Aard ] [ clifford] [ hannes ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tcr ] 20:13 [ AOU ] [ cytrinox] [ kasc ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ trekkie3k] 20:13 [ aszlig ] [ daja77 ] [ linDude] [ netrunner] [ scoopex] 20:13 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ Mike1 ] [ nookie ] [ SMP ] 20:13 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 20:13 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 20:13 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 20:19 < rxr> any votes for an exim user-id ? 20:21 < mnemoc> we need a better/smart way to auto-add things to /etc/passwd 20:21 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802707.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:25 < rxr> ok - so I use 30 20:26 < mnemoc> i did something for /etc/inittab (install_init stuff)... the installer creates a file at /etc/.inittab/ and sysfiles generated inittab using what is found at /etc/.inittab/* 20:27 < mnemoc> maybe we can use such method to add stuff to 'all' sysfiles 20:29 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M364P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 20:30 < mnemoc> gotta go :( ... please think about it 20:30 < mnemoc> bbl 20:36 < rxr> - updated nautilus (2.4.1) and gnome-vfs (2.4.1) in the hope this reduces 20:36 < rxr> the ongoing seg-faults ... 20:36 < rxr> oops sorry 20:53 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAC6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Leaving" 21:01 -!- BL|away [be-el@p5082B3B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 22:23 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 < fake> hi 22:23 < AOU> hi fake ! *waves* 22:23 < fake> who is AOU ? 22:24 < AOU> <-- owl 22:24 < fake> ah, hi owl 22:24 < AOU> (aka: asshole of universe) 22:31 < rxr> hi fake 22:34 < fake> hi rene 23:21 < rxr> re 23:39 -!- AOU [~owl@D72a8.d.pppool.de] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 23:56 < netrunne1> self-enlightenment is the first step to the truth :) 23:59 -!- You're now known as netrunner --- Log closed Son Nov 02 00:00:09 2003