--- Log opened Mon Nov 03 00:00:28 2003
00:09 < rxr> in the case s.o. wants to fix build errors:
00:09 < rxr> rror logs from reference-2.0.0-rc3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-reference-expert:
00:09 < rxr>  [5] tsa/yp-tools                        [5] base/sendmail
00:09 < rxr>  [5] tsa/metamail                        [5] rene/auctex
00:09 < rxr>  [5] gnome24/gtkdoc                      [5] gnome24/libglade
00:09 < rxr>  [5] gnome24/libgnome                    [5] base/isdn4k-utils
00:09 < rxr> 2058 builds total, 491 completed fine, 8 with errors.
00:09 < rxr> much fun and good night ...
00:09 < rxr> ah - btw. new regresion tester output  at:
00:10 < rxr> the usual place: http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/
00:15 < rxr> n8
00:31 < netrunner> n8 rxr
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01:04 < netrunner> hm, I already burned cds speed=24 over the local net ... now with the burning pc building rock at the same time ... ;)
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05:15 < Mike1> moin
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08:04 < daja77> moin Mike1 
08:04 < Mike1> moin daja77
08:05 < Mike1> how did you knwo i am awake? i haven't aid a word :P
08:05 < daja77> you said sth 3h ago :)
08:05 < Mike1> lol :)
08:05 < Mike1> perhaps i did
08:05 < daja77> 05:14 < Mike1> moin
08:05 < daja77> yep
08:06 < Mike1> how are you ?
08:06 < daja77> fine
08:06 < daja77> and you?
08:07  * daja77 has to go to university now, cu
08:07 < Mike1> doing good too thanks.
08:07 < clifford> cu daja
08:07 < daja77> oki
08:07 < Mike1> cu
08:07 < Mike1> clifford: moin :)
08:07 < clifford> moin.  ;-)
08:14 < netrunner> moin
08:15 < netrunner> 855 builds total, 498 completed fine, 14 with errors.
08:15 < netrunner> (current status)
08:18 < rxr> re
08:18 < rxr> hi clifford !
08:19 < clifford> hi netrunner, rxr.
08:19 < netrunner> hi clifford, rxr
08:20 < rxr> clifford: any rocknet news?
08:22 < rxr> hehe ;-) Avision in Taiwan is trying to install ROCK Linux ;-)
08:22 < rxr> "I am installing Rock linux , its installation is a little bit different from
08:22 < rxr> Red Hat or Slackware .
08:22 < rxr> "
08:24 < clifford> rxr: it's liggering on my laptop half-finished..  ;-)
08:33 < rxr> could you send me the current state, sometime today?
08:42 < clifford> yup. will do later when I boot up my laptop.
09:14 < rxr> ok - thanks
09:20 < daja77> rxr: cool :)
09:22 < daja77> re btw
09:38 < rxr> rehi daja77 
09:39 < daja77> build is still running, i guess you prefer tested isos?
09:39 < daja77> re rxr, d'oh I forget myself these times
09:41  * daja77 missed a lecture that's why I am hanging around here again
09:53 < rxr> daja77: yes - please _tested_ ISOs!!!
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09:58 < AOU> moin
10:00 < rxr> moin AOU 
10:02 < daja77> rxr: ok, of course this means that it will take a bit longer :)
10:02  * daja77 off for breakfast now, cu later
10:03 < cchamilt> rxr:?
10:04 < AOU> hi rxr 
10:08 < rxr> daja77: yes - but wasting GB of traffic for an untested ISO - and even more when users download and try it is much worser
10:08 < rxr> cchamilt: yes?
10:14 < cchamilt> rxr: Did you get my patches?
10:15 < cchamilt> Not sure if things are going out of my mail server.
10:21 < cchamilt> I did the little hack to have x86 isolinux lilo's ramdisk target be acpi=off and then have an acpi target for those notebooks that need it.  If you are interested I could send an updated bootdisk.patch
10:24 < cchamilt> exim and apache patches were well tested as pkg_*.conf target overwrites and everything else accept kerberos-izing mozilla was tested.
10:26 < rxr> cchamilt: I replied to your mail
10:26 < rxr> 1 1/2 days ago or so
10:27 < cchamilt> shoot it might have got lost in my mail system mess ups.
10:35 < cchamilt> OK, found it. Only one reply to complaints - $root awareness is only necessary for things buildinf before stage 2.  Also the only large patch is the mozilla diffs in heimdal, it is from bugzilla.  Not sure how to get it downloadable.
10:39 < cchamilt> acpi is still a big problem for old systems and more importantly servers.  I hope they fixed it, but manually adding acpi=off has been a crap solution for most distros for more than a year.
10:40 < cchamilt> most smp servers do not pay attention to acpi pci interrupt mapping if I understand the problem.
10:44 < cchamilt> OK, I have the correct bootdisk patch
10:55 < rxr> cchamilt: for cross builds and jailing full root awareness is a must
10:55 < rxr> we do not want to introduce new pacakge that are not written cleanly
10:56 < rxr> and any package should be prefix aware - we have enough old packages to clean up ....
10:56 < rxr> I think I wrote that a scond boot options with acpi=off is ok ...
10:57 < cchamilt> rxr:And so I carry this burden eh :P
10:57 < cchamilt> Yeah, the boodisk patch includes raidtools, evmvs, and noacpi lilo option.
11:00 < daja77> re
11:01 < daja77> rxr: sure, I feel better with tested isos too
11:04 < rxr> cchamilt: you know that we use isolinux for the CD images?
11:05 < cchamilt> yes this is changes to isolinux.cfg
11:05 < cchamilt> all it is a lilo wrapper
11:09 < rxr> the regression test site now includes the subversion revision - when available for the specifc regression tester run (only for the ones in the last 1 1/2 months ...
11:09 < daja77> :)
11:12 < rxr> )
11:32 < cchamilt> How do you make init calls work with &?
11:38 < cchamilt> fmpackage.sh did the bad [T] parsing.
12:04 < netrunner> re
12:06 < cchamilt> rxr: krb5-admin will need post install work - wrapping `` around the start call.  Still dont know how to solve that.
12:09 < cchamilt> If anyone is interested in a free email account to help me test my server, let me know.
12:10 < daja77> .sg address?
12:11 < Mike1> cchamilt: i'll test
12:11 < cchamilt> whatever you want if you point your mx at me or one of mine(there is about 2 dozen)
12:12 < cchamilt> mike@ambigc.com?
12:12 < Mike1> ack.
12:13 < daja77> what is there to test`
12:13 < daja77> ?
12:13 < daja77> re Mike1 
12:14 < Mike1> re daja77 .. getting ready to go to bed i'm too tired
12:14 < AOU> hi Mike1 
12:14 < daja77> Mike1: good night
12:14 < AOU> gn8 Mike1 
12:15 < cchamilt> just webmail and maybe sharing
12:15 < Mike1> cchamilt: query
12:15 < daja77> would be ok for me, but what do you want us to test
12:16 < cchamilt> Just see how you like it.  Criticize it etc.
12:16 < daja77> ok
12:16 < daja77> will do it :)
12:17 < cchamilt> It will be changing - especially webmail.
12:17 < daja77> well i wouldn't use it for important mail :)
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12:17 < cchamilt> no, I just need enough subjects to test antispam, etc. and look and feel.
12:18 < daja77> you can tell me details in query if you like
12:25  * netrunner patching php.conf ...
12:30 < netrunner> why doesnt    pkgcheck bla X && ... work?
12:45 < netrunner> oh - it does, sorry :) 
12:46  * netrunner notes he should take more care about the ... :)
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13:27 < rxr> hi trekkie3k 
13:27 < trekkie3k> hi
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13:42 < rxr> hi Nebukadneza 
13:45 < Nebukadneza> heyya
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13:48 < rxr> hi cytrinox` 
13:51 < mnemoc> tail #rocklinux | grep "<rxr> hi" | wc -l ---> overflow :)
13:51 < mnemoc> hi rxr, cytrinox, Nebukadneza 
13:52 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
13:53 < rxr> ;-)
13:53 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you think about this (new suggestion) for the moutn point dialog in the mod_install stone module:
13:53 < rxr> gui_input "Mount device $1/$2 on directory
13:53 < rxr> ? ;-)
13:53 < rxr> (For example /, /home, /var, ... - Do _not_ prefix the mountpoint with
13:53 < rxr> the internal used /mnt/target!)" '' dir
13:54 < mnemoc> sure... prefix is ugly :-)
13:54 < rxr> hm?
13:54 < rxr> the text is ok - but I should remove the word prefix?
13:54 < mnemoc> yes
13:55 < mnemoc> ${point#$prefix}
13:55 < mnemoc> :)
13:55 < mnemoc> we need a cleaner installation
13:56 < mnemoc> i'll add lvm support asap
13:56 < rxr> hm - you say we need a cleaner installation and you want to add new features? this does not match very well ...
13:57 < mnemoc> IF there is an VG activated, offer mount and mkfs
13:58 < mnemoc> i'm not currently able to code an lvm_cfdisk ;-)
13:59 < mnemoc> brb
14:02 < mnemoc> mmm... still no water :(
14:02 < rxr> no water?
14:02 < mnemoc> life sucks
14:03 < AOU> hoeh?
14:03 < mnemoc> :)
14:04 < AOU> those words from you? O_o
14:07 < mnemoc> if you have a new-job-meeting in 30min and you can't shower, those word came out of my mouth :(
14:07 < AOU> oh. ok... that's an argument... but anyways - good luck in the meeting
14:07 < mnemoc> :)
14:07 < mnemoc> thanks
14:08 < AOU> you're welcome
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14:09 < clifford> *stinky* mnemoc: yep. good luck!  ;-)
14:10 < AOU> hi clifford 
14:10 < clifford> hi AOU.
14:11 < AOU> clifford: how are you?
14:11 < clifford> I'm fine (up since yesterday morning). And you?
14:12 < AOU> wuah. fine - and up since over 24 hours? - how does this work? O_o i'm - no comment. thx
14:12 < clifford> root@clifford:~# uptime
14:12 < clifford>  14:11:24 up 1 day, 10:15,  1 user,  load average: 13.80, 13.54, 13.21
14:13 < AOU> hehe
14:19 < cytrinox`> moin
14:19 < AOU> hi clifford 
14:19 < AOU> aeh. sorry. cytrinox` 
14:20 < clifford> hi cytrinox`
14:20 < cchamilt> clifford: Can I annex your DBI stuff?
14:20 < cytrinox`> oh, hi clifford :)
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14:21 < clifford> cchamilt: if you fix it..  ;-)
14:21 < cchamilt> Its waiting on rxr to put it in, yes it is updated and using DBD::mysql too.
14:23 < mnemoc> *clean* mnemoc said good bye ;)
14:23 < rxr> ok - cu later
14:23 < rxr> cu mnemoc 
14:23 < clifford> cu mnemoc, and good luck!
14:23 < Nebukadneza> heyya clifford ;)
14:24 < cchamilt> bye mnemoc
14:24 < clifford> Nebukadneza: hi.
14:24 < Nebukadneza> where was rock on the worldexpo?
14:25 < blindcoder> hi all
14:26 < clifford> worldexpo?
14:26  * blindcoder currently ekperimenting with cryptography support in 2.4.22
14:27 < cytrinox`> www.linuxworldexpo.de
14:28 < clifford> hm... I've just been at Linuxkongress in october.
14:29 < AOU> hi blindcoder 
14:29 < AOU> hi Nebukadneza 
14:29 < Nebukadneza> hehe
14:30 < Nebukadneza> ohaio AOU
14:35 < blindcoder> Nebukadneza: I don't think she understands that :D (besides, isn't it a bit late for "ohayo"?)
14:35 < Nebukadneza> blindcoder: why?
14:35 < blindcoder> depends when you got up :)
14:36 < Nebukadneza> just now
14:36 < Nebukadneza> ;)
14:36 < Nebukadneza> blindcoder: do you speak jap., or just watch anime?
14:36 < blindcoder> talking about the time... I neeh  to buy  tickets for the cinema
14:37 < blindcoder> I'm currently taking lessons
14:37 < blindcoder> brb in about 15-20 minutes
14:37 < blindcoder> buying 250 tickets takes some time :)
14:38 < AOU> buying 250 tickets? for what?
14:44 < clifford> m. revolutions?
14:45 < clifford> "MATRIX Revolutions" (incrasing google hits for IRC log ;-)
14:45 < AOU> hoeh? 
14:46 < blindcoder> Return of the King
14:47 < blindcoder> not on sale yet though. Next week of the week after that I've beet told.
14:47 < AOU> hmm
14:56 < blindcoder> I wonder if the util-linux patches still apply against 2.12pre
14:57 < blindcoder> hmm... looks good
15:00 < blindcoder> no, doesn't...
15:02 < blindcoder> it seems like the actial install-process doesn't work...
15:06 < blindcoder> hmm... Build-Pkg works... Emerge-Pkg doesn't strange...
15:11 < rolla> re
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15:55 < daja77> clifford: lol :)
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17:09 < rxr> re
17:10 < daja77> wb rxr
17:10 < rxr> grrr
17:10 < rxr> clifford: was your day too boring to increase the google rating ;-) 
17:12 < daja77> rxr: you don't like it?
17:18  * netrunner throws rxr a bone
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17:40 < rxr> daja77: it is a nice
17:40 < rxr> joke ...
17:40 < rxr> but - cu
17:41 < daja77> cu rxr
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18:29 < blindcoder> sucks
18:30 < mnemoc> amen
18:31 < blindcoder> yeah
18:31 < blindcoder> I can't get cryptography to work in 2.4.22
18:31 < blindcoder> which means I can't upgrade
18:31 < blindcoder> hmm... no that's wrong
18:31 < blindcoder> I can only get AES encryption working in 2.4.22
18:32 < blindcoder> which still means I can't upgrade
18:33 < mnemoc> go for it bc... you can do it :)
18:33 < blindcoder> I hope so...
18:33 < blindcoder> I want it in LVP, so I have to get it to work somehow...
18:35 < blindcoder> if I can't get it to work today I'm going to write to linux-crypto mailinglist
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18:38 < robert``> use rocklinux .bin packages or compile it all from source?
18:43 < blindcoder> -v please
18:44 < robert``> -v ?
18:44 < blindcoder> --verbose # as in: I don't understand your question, more output please
18:45 < robert``> it's ok, i has read the answer in the handbook
18:45 < blindcoder> okay :)
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18:55 < robert``> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/stable/src/  <- which script must i download for a i686 ?
18:55 < daja77> huh?
18:55 < blindcoder> the latest, which would be -rc1
18:55 < daja77> blindcoder: nope rc2
18:55 < blindcoder> but maybe you want to try current svn-tree
18:56 < blindcoder> daja77: no rc2 tarball on that site
18:56 < daja77> hmm but you can co this
18:56 < blindcoder> brb, reboot new kernel again
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18:59 < blindcod1r> gnarf
18:59 < blindcod1r> still doesn't work
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19:51 < AOU> hi
19:52 < blindcoder> hi
19:54 < daja77> re
19:54 < rolla> hallo daja77 
19:54 < daja77> hi rolla 
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20:13 < AOU> <- is more angry than ever before
20:14 < blindcoder> what's it this time?
20:16  * daja77 isn't frightened a bit
20:16  * blindcoder neither :)
20:16 < AOU> my fscking work gave me this month 197,91 EURO... last month i got 475 (i should have got 515) - and this month i should have got 515+difference_from_month_before. but i got 197,91 AAAAAARGH!!!
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20:18 < AOU> .oO(this AAARGH was too much for netrunner's connection)
20:18 < daja77> yes you killed it
20:18 < AOU> black magic *har*
20:18 < blindcoder> hrm... strange
20:19 < AOU> strange? why strange?
20:21 < AOU> the joke is: i spoke to the stupid asshole who does the "ueberweisungen" etc. several times... he told me (about the difference sum) that i should have got it in september... fsck, fsck, fsck. i am angekotzt
20:23 < blindcoder> why not cutting the time you work by the same amount they cut your payment?
20:24  * daja77 does this
20:29 < nookie> Uah.
20:30 < nookie> Damn, wrong window.
20:30 < nookie> Sorry.
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20:30 < blindcoder> anyway, I'm going home now
20:30 < blindcoder> bye!
20:31 < daja77> cu blindcoder 
20:31 < nookie> Bye blindcoder 
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20:36 < esden> hi all
20:36 < daja77> hi esden!
20:37 < esden> hi daja77 
20:37 < AOU> hi esden 
20:38 < AOU> *hug*
20:38 < true> AOU: *kick* :p
20:38 < AOU> true: :p
20:42  * esden playing around with a neat Think Pad laptop ;)
20:44 < daja77> hehe cool
20:44  * daja77 playing around wit cchamilts mailing software
20:47  * AOU grumbling around
20:50 < esden> it is possible that I will be allowed to keep it ;)
20:50 < esden> perhups ... it is not sure yet
20:51 < daja77> esden: hehe if you get wlan runnig
20:51  * daja77 runs
20:51 < esden> o_O
20:51  * daja77 off meeting her again, bye
20:51 < esden> cu have fun
20:51 < daja77> thx, have fun too
20:52 < esden> I will have it ;)
21:16 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
21:21 < esden> hi blindcoder!
21:21 < esden> how are you?
21:21 < blindcoder> hi esden
21:21 < blindcoder> well, fine...
21:21 < blindcoder> and yourself?
21:21 < esden> I feel perfect/extraordinary good!
21:22 < blindcoder> nice to hear
21:22 < blindcoder> I'd probably feel the same getting a laptop for free
21:23 < esden> yes ... that is right
21:24 < esden> and even more when it is not crap
21:25 < blindcoder> eh
21:25 < esden> perhups I will have to give it back in some time but for some time at least I can use it and play around
21:26 < blindcoder> hmhm
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21:46 < elon> greets
21:47 < blindcoder> hi
21:49 < esden> hi
21:53 < blindcoder> GRAAAAAAH
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22:04 < esden> blindcoder: ?
22:05 < blindcoder> esden: just some things driving me crazy
22:05 < esden> people?
22:05 < blindcoder> also... and software that is badly documented
22:05 < blindcoder> (please note: we're talking linux kernel patches here)
22:06 < blindcoder> fscking important patches to boot
22:07 < esden> ohh ... such things should be documented ...
22:08 < blindcoder> That's what's preventing me from upgrading to 2.4.22
22:08 < blindcoder> Because after two days trying I'm still unable to do a loopback mount with another encryptionthan AES
22:09 < blindcoder> maybe I'm also completely stupid (something that isn't completely unheard of)
22:09 < blindcoder> but I have to get twofish256 encryption for my hard disks
22:13 < blindcoder> and that shit just FREAKS ME OUT
22:15 < esden> I can understand that ...
22:16 < blindcoder> I wrote a mail to linux-crypto mailing list... I hope something good will come out of that
22:25 < esden> I hope the best for you
22:25  * esden brb ... (has to reboot the laptop ...)
22:43 < blindcoder> this anime is... strange...
22:44 < blindcoder> definately strange...
22:57 < blindcoder> good night!
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23:11 < Mike1> greetings
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23:35 < blindcoder> aw, fuck... can't sleep....
23:38 < Mike1> blindcoder: sleep is for the birds anyways..
23:39 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 
23:39 < Mike1> hello blindy
23:41 < blindcoder> seems like I'm really getting some kind of sleep-disorder...
23:42 < Mike1> any idea of why is this happening?
23:42 < blindcoder> more than I'd like to have...
23:42 < Mike1> mm.. query?
23:42 < blindcoder> fine with me
23:54 < cchamilt> I am having severe sleep problems too.  Trying to finish kerberosized mozilla
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