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--- Log opened Die Nov 04 00:00:45 2003
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00:20 < daja77> hi cchamilt 
00:24 < mnemoc> re
00:24 < victorvdl> a) what system do you use for package metadata and b) is it parsable by 3rd part programs?
00:24 < cchamilt> hi, just kinda floating in a stupor
00:25 < cchamilt> It is all text files in /var/adm
00:25 < cchamilt> each binary contains a searchable cdb version as well for quick noncompressed searches.
00:26 < victorvdl> Actually, I meant the metadata it is installed from.
00:26 < cchamilt> huh?
00:27 < victorvdl> The package info that tells where to dload it from, how to build it, etc.
00:27 < victorvdl> Nm.
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00:27 < cchamilt> That is the building bash scripts inside the rock-src build system.
00:28 < cchamilt> we are limited in fm's but i think that was a rtfm.
00:29 < daja77> cchamilt: ahem the guy vanished so don't waste your breath :))
00:32  * mnemoc gives a glass of cold water to cchamilt 
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00:33 < cchamilt> heh
00:33 < cchamilt> mozilla with kerberos is building finally pretty log files...
00:34 < mnemoc> OpenROCK can save us from that kind of confusion... Open.* things are $foo independent and the are not distributed as binaries :)
00:36 < mnemoc> OT: how can i get the object with focus with javascript?
00:36 < mnemoc> (getFocusedObject())
00:39  * blindcoder tries going to sleep again
00:39 < blindcoder> ja ne
00:40 < mnemoc> night blindcoder 
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02:30 < cchamilt> mike1?
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04:00 < __mnemoc> *yawn*
04:10 < cchamilt> mike1?
04:17 < __mnemoc> gn8 cchamilt 
04:18 < cchamilt> gn8
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06:05 < AOU> moin *yaaaaaawn*
06:06 < AOU> fsck i am tired as hell
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06:07 < true> AOU: you're almost tired :p
06:07 < AOU> true: sure ;) i didn't hear my watch's alarm today in the train, btw *cough*
06:08 < true> AOU: but u awoke? *har*
06:09 < AOU> true: yeah... i didn't sleep deep... but i didn't hear the alarm... 
06:10 < true> AOU: i.c. hm... gonna have "breakfast" < cup of tee or so :p 
06:11 < AOU> true: hehe. bring me "heisse schokolade" then, please ;p
06:12 < true> AOU: hehe... ok ;p
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07:02 < netrunne1> Error logs from vaio-2.0.0-rc3-x86-pentium2-32-desktop-expert: 855 builds total, 834 completed fine, 21 with errors.
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07:03 < AOU> moin netrunner 
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08:01 < Baldzius> hi
08:01 < AOU> hi Baldzius 
08:01 < Baldzius> can somebody answer? how big is rock linux source dir?
08:01 < Baldzius> packages
08:02 < Baldzius> packages source directory
08:03 < AOU> second...
08:03 < AOU> 'du -sh ing trunk'
08:07 < AOU> with downloaded sources it is about 1.9 GB large
08:09 < Baldzius> tnx :)
08:10 < Baldzius> one more, is there a good rsync mirror?
08:17 < AOU> i dunno. sorry
08:20 < Baldzius> np
08:54 < rxr> re
08:55 < rxr> Baldzius: rsync for what?
08:55 < rxr> the sources of the downloads
08:55 < rxr> for the downloads we have normal http / ftp mirrors
08:55 < rxr> which are even detected automatically
09:02 < Baldzius> hi rxr, yeah i know, but i want to have all repository locally, don't want to download packages each time
09:02 < Baldzius> so i'm looking for rsync mirror
09:02 < Baldzius> it seems that rsync supports ftp protocol
09:03 < Baldzius> so i guess i'll be able to make it not just from rsync server
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09:32 < Mike1> re
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10:11 < daja77> moin
10:13 < Mike1> daja77: :)
10:14 < daja77> hi Mike1 
10:15 < AOU> hi Mike1 , daja77 
10:17 < Mike1> lo all.
10:33 < cytrinox`> moin
10:35 < daja77> bbl cu
10:37 < rxr> re
10:53 < blindcoder> moin moin
10:56 < rxr> moin blindcoder 
10:56 < AOU> hi blindy
10:59  * blindcoder doing japanese homework, so don't expect prompt answers :/
10:59 < AOU> omfg. enjoy the homework....
11:00 < blindcoder> urgs... this sucks...
11:00 < blindcoder> Answer the following questions:
11:00 < blindcoder> "Back wa suisujin desu ka." ("Ist Back (dieser komische Musiker) Schweizer?")
11:01 < blindcoder> HTF am I supposed to know?
11:01 < blindcoder> and I can't type this early in the morning >_<
11:02 < AOU> bacK or bacH ?
11:02 < blindcoder> Bach
11:03 < AOU> he is german
11:03 < blindcoder> thanks...
11:03 < blindcoder> three more like this coming up...
11:03 < AOU> born in eisenach, afaik "thueringen"... if my mind tells me correct facts... 
11:03 < AOU> kewl :)))
11:03 < blindcoder> Thomas Mann, Martin Luther and Heinrich Heine
11:04 < blindcoder> I've never been interested in things like that...
11:05 < AOU> *cough* *cough* *cough* .oO(now i know, why people call "albert einstein" a musician and so)
11:06 < blindcoder> Einstein was a Patent Office worker :P
11:06 < AOU> blindcoder: :p
11:07 < AOU> where are the next questionms?
11:08 < blindcoder> 11:05 < blindcoder> Thomas Mann, Martin Luther and Heinrich Heine
11:08 < AOU> what is withz them?
11:09 < AOU> if they're from .ch?
11:09 < blindcoder> Thomas Mann wa doitsujin desu ka. (Thomas Mann is German)
11:09 < blindcoder> Martin Luther (German), Heinrich Heine (Swiss)
11:10 < AOU> a) ack, b) ack, c) Nack, (germany)
11:10 < blindcoder> Ok, thanks *gives owl a hug*
11:10 < AOU> you're welcome
11:11 < blindcoder> okay, next is a "listening comprehension" *gets out CD*
11:11 < AOU> omfg.
11:16 < AOU> .oO(hm... still 3 hours to stay in office)
11:18 < blindcoder> okay, that's done, too
11:26 < blindcoder> okay, homework done
11:36 < blindcoder> now more 2.4.22 cryptography fucking around
11:40 < __mnemoc> too many patches to add to rock?
11:42 < blindcoder> __mnemoc: ?
11:43 < __mnemoc> for making 2.4.22-crypto work
11:44 < __mnemoc> or are they lvp-only?
11:48 < blindcoder> for now, lvp-only
11:48 < blindcoder> but as I see it, it's only two patches... one for kernel, one for util-linux
11:49 < rxr> hehe:
11:49 < blindcoder> since the whole cryptography-things have been backported from 2.6 into 2.4.22
11:49 < rxr> The nice thing about Windows is, it doesn't just crash, it
11:49 < rxr> displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first. (At least,
11:49 < rxr> occasionally...)
11:49 < AOU>  gnome-config <-- where is it?
11:49 < blindcoder> __mnemoc: once I get it to work, I'll send a patch to the rock-list
11:50 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ which gnome-config
11:50 < blindcoder> /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config
11:50 < AOU> nah... in which package
11:50 < AOU> from gnome...
11:50 < __mnemoc> grep gnome-config /var/adm/flists/*
11:50 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ grep gnome-config /var/adm/flists/* | cut -f1 -d: | uniq 
11:50 < blindcoder> /var/adm/flists/gnome-libs14
11:50 < blindcoder> /var/adm/flists/libgnome22
11:51 < AOU> aehm... i have no rock... 
11:51 < __mnemoc> dupe!!! :(
11:51 < AOU> thx...
11:51 < blindcoder> __mnemoc: no, no dupe. once in /opt/gnome/bin and once in /opt/gnome2/bin
11:52 < __mnemoc> :)
11:55 < AOU> hmm. slackware is quite cool...
11:55 < blindcoder> try saying that in #debian :D
11:56 < AOU> why?
11:56 < blindcoder> just for fun :)
11:56 < clifford> AOU: I thought you where in love with RedHat / Fedora ?
11:56 < blindcoder> moin cliff
11:56 < blindcoder> ELUSER
11:57 < AOU> clifford: nope... i tried it... i also tried debian... but i was not statified with the system... but slackware looks quite ok for my needs
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11:58 < AOU> hi clifford, btw
11:59 < rxr> fedora? *wuerg*
12:00 < AOU> fedora???
12:01 < clifford> 2003-10-09:14:25 < hopelessOwl> .oO(i begin to _love_ redhat)
12:02 < AOU> yes... that was before i tried to compile libpng and gcc by hand... (everytime you reboot the system, the libgcc etc. are replaced by symlinks to old libgcc and shit) --> not really funny
12:02 < cchamilt> rxr:I have a compiling mozilla with kerberos.  I will send you an additional patch for it and some other packages I think are ready.
12:03 < AOU> (--> so the "love" moved into "hate")
12:05 < blindcoder> brb, rebooting into linux-2.4.22-crypto-try-23
12:06 < blindcoder> re
12:07 < AOU> blindcoder: are you sure it is in libgnome22 ?
12:07 < rxr> clifford: ack
12:08 < blindcoder> AOU: no
12:08 < blindcoder> AOU: it's in gnome-libs14
12:08 < clifford> rxr: ack to what?
12:08 < AOU> oh. scheisse... danke
12:09 < clifford> AOU: regardless the fact that this might be easy to translate: this is an english channel..   ;-)
12:10 < AOU> aeh. yeah. sorry... 
12:10 < rxr> clifford: I meant cchamilt - damn completation over a very saturated wlan ...
12:12 < Baldzius> sorry guys for noob question, but don't know how to manipulate init scripts in console , include them into some runlevel or remove
12:12 < Baldzius> :)
12:19 < rxr> you can configure the runlevels inside stone
12:21 < Baldzius> tnx , exactly what i needed
12:21 < Baldzius> i thought stone is a configuration tool for instalation
12:23 < __mnemoc> As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and
12:23 < __mnemoc> errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December 
12:23 < __mnemoc> 31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for 
12:23 < __mnemoc> Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release 
12:23 < __mnemoc> another product in the Red Hat Linux line.
12:27 < AOU> hoeh?
12:27 < rxr> Baldzius: stone is a general configuration and setup tool
12:27 < AOU> __mnemoc: where did you read this?
12:27 < rxr> AOU: this is in the net for montsh
12:27 < AOU> hrm. k. 
12:27 < rxr> maybe you should switch awqay from spiegel.de as main news source ... ;-)
12:28 < AOU> nah...not really... hm... but maybe att another source...
12:31 < __mnemoc> AOU: i got a mail from redhat :)
12:32 < AOU> __mnemoc: ah. k.
12:33  * clifford , the RHCE, also got mail. Am I an FCE now??  ;-)
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12:45 < baldzius> f* win :)
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12:52 < AOU> gnome-xml) version >= 1.8.8 << package? please?
12:54  * rxr away for some minutes ...
12:57 < Baldzius> why in dRock mount point is /mnt/cdrom0?
12:57 < Baldzius> but in stone under package management is /mnt/cdrom?
12:58 < Baldzius> why there is so mismatch
13:15 < blindcoder> maybe noone here noticed yet :/
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13:23  * blindcoder continuing work on LVP
13:23 < daja77> cool
13:24  * AOU thinks hard about "OM-server on linux" - if the team-leader of OM-server did tease me or if he was serious...
13:28 < blindcoder> OM?
13:28 < AOU> our product
13:28 < blindcoder> I see
13:28  * daja77 thought owl speaks about the church of OM
13:29 < AOU> OM-church? what's that?
13:29 < daja77> a religion prakticed on discworld ...
13:30 < blindcoder> hehe
13:30 < daja77> everybody is hating that monks ...
13:30 < AOU> religion...  have nothing to do with religion...
13:31 < daja77> i was joking but could i expect you to notice it
13:31 < AOU> ah so... 
13:31 < AOU> nah... i'm too dead as in tired
13:31 < daja77> ic
13:32 < AOU> <- got up at 03:30, took the train at 04:30, was at work at 05:50 - any further questions?
13:32 < daja77> no
13:33 < AOU> well then ;p
13:33  * blindcoder got to sleep at 04:00, got up at 10:00
13:33 < daja77> :p
13:33  * daja77 got to sleep at 1:00 got up at 6:00
13:34  * daja77 slept an hour ago to get along better :)
13:34 < cchamilt> It is so annoying when build-pkg clips output on paranoia checks. How the fsck am I to know what the error is?
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13:36 < rxr> cchamilt: tail var/adm/logs/?-$pkg.err
13:37 < cchamilt> oh yeah.
13:37  * cchamilt is a little drunk.
13:37 < AOU> ~üp +a#dgrfouiong!°!!"§e8a mp9sofdu<dray ä
13:37 < AOU> crappy, fscking xml-shit!
13:38 < blindcoder> AOU just FAOK :)
13:38 < AOU> FAOK?
13:38 < blindcoder> Feel Asleep Over Keyboard :)
13:38 < AOU> *g* not really
13:38 < AOU> i don't want to sleep when my work is over for today
13:41 < AOU> ld: cannot find -lxml
13:41 < AOU> why??? why??? why?? libxml and libxml2 are installed!
13:41 < daja77> you still use the old xml library?
13:41 < AOU> why? where?
13:42 < daja77> -lxml links against the old library, -lxml2 against the new one
13:42 < AOU> ah... k. thx...
13:42 < AOU> .oO(it's in gnome-print-0.35, which is afaik needed by gnucash)
13:43 < blindcoder> daja77: have you used libxml2 in C yet?
13:43 < daja77> yes
13:44 < daja77> api is a bit cleaner than in version 1 imo
13:45 < blindcoder> I have either not found a good tutorial or was too stupid to inderstand it
13:46 < blindcoder> cause I wanted to use it in the LVP-Binary to read the lvp.xml config file
13:46 < AOU> *hypfÜ
13:46 < blindcoder> now I reverted to parsing the file by hand but I don't really like that ..
13:47 < blindcoder> too many pointers
13:47 < AOU> ok... i installed libxml-1.8.9, (>=1.8.8 is needed) - and it can't find "xmlNewDoc in -lxml"
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13:48 < AOU> --> where's my problem??
13:48 < daja77> maybe it is installed but not in path
13:48 < AOU> in my /etc/ld.so.conf-path?
13:49 < daja77> think so
13:53 < AOU> /usr/local/lib
13:53 < AOU> /usr/lib
13:53 < AOU> /usr/X11R6/lib
13:53 < AOU> /usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib
13:53 < AOU> /opt/*/lib
13:53 < AOU> /usr/lib/qt/lib
13:54 < AOU> --> /usr/local/ is the path, where libxml is installed
13:55 < AOU> now, what's wrong?
13:57 < daja77> blindcoder: maybe not the best tutorial but everything you need is included as far as i have seen
13:57 < daja77> https://xmlsoft.org/tutorial/index.html
13:58 < blindcoder> *click*
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13:59 < daja77> owl start readin config.log in detail
13:59 < blindcoder> hmm... that's the one I found and didn't understad >_<
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14:00 < daja77> hmm it is not too har i think
14:00 < daja77> hard
14:02 < daja77> maybe i can help you out later
14:02  * daja77 off
14:02 < blindcoder> I couldn't find out how to get a specific value...
14:02 < blindcoder> okay, bye
14:03 < daja77> https://xmlsoft.org/tutorial/ar01s04.html <- that way
14:04 < daja77> you have to move along the tree, you can't stay on top and pick up one element
14:04 < daja77> my nice src samples are at work unfortunately
14:04 < daja77> so bye now
14:04 < AOU> bye daja77 
14:05 < blindcoder> okay, thanks!
14:05 < AOU> .oO(fscking gnome
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14:08 < AOU> where's a "development-package" of libxml?
14:27 < rolla> re
14:28 < clifford> Anyone here did submit a link to www.thelinuxmall.com at www.rocklinux.net ?
14:29 < blindcoder> hmm... no
14:29 < clifford> should I accept that? on the one hand, www.rocklinux.net isn't ment as marketing platform for linux shops.
14:30 < clifford> On the other hand it's linux related and it's hard to define the thin red line once you startet refusing links.
14:31 < blindcoder> hmm... since it's probably gone from the frontpage in a few days anyway... I'd say: accept it
14:32 < clifford> ok. it's online now.
14:32 < clifford> ok. it's online now.
14:37  * blindcoder going to the gym now
14:37 < blindcoder> see you later!
14:43 < rxr> clifford: could you please go over the user links once a week an really delete the unwanted ones ?
14:43 < rxr> or provide a delete button so we can remove commercial onces=
14:43 < rxr> ones even ...
14:44 < clifford> rxr: all new submssions are sent to me per email and I need to actively aprove them (since a few weeks)
14:44 < rxr> ah ok
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15:10 < netrunner> clifford: did you log which ip the request came from?
15:11 < clifford> netrunner: sure.
15:11 < daja77> re
15:14 < netrunner> clifford: so you could guess from the ip who submitted it ... 
15:15 < clifford> 159.134.129.173 (p129-173.as1.pal.dublin.eircom.net)
15:15 < clifford> so what?
15:15 < daja77> hehe
15:22 < netrunner> clifford: whois thelinuxmall.com -> dublin. probably submitted by themself.
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15:41 < rxr> https://www.distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20031103
15:41 < rxr> ^- My server get's really hit by this referrer ...
15:42 < daja77> hehe
15:42 < rxr> wow - even a direkt link to the handbook is provided ...
15:42 < daja77> cool
15:43 < rxr> four times the normal traffic yesterday ...
15:44 < rxr> I guess today, too ...
15:44  * daja77 hopes that the naming issue doesn't destroy anything
15:45 < rxr> we need to keep the ROCK in it (IMHO)
15:45 < rxr> otherwise most of the PR of the last years will be lost ...
15:45 < daja77> ack
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15:46 < cchamilt> rxr: We need to keep our package versions up to date with distrowatches versions.
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15:47 < cchamilt> rxr: The provide a nice cheat sheet we can use to compare against other distros.
15:48 < daja77> we should keep the name until it is really forseeable that we can cooperate with an other kernels
15:48 < daja77> s/an//
15:49 < rxr> yes - this will be a "to be done during 2.1" thing ...
15:50 < daja77> we should use the current name to promote 2.0 tree, chances ar good, now that rh got buggered by fedora
15:52 < daja77> such a desolated approach *shakehead*
15:53 < daja77> they are still building all packages manually
15:57 < rxr> could you write some words down about this ?
15:57 < rxr> maybe some informational mail to the list or so ...
16:00 < clifford> https://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/11/pr03069.html
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16:03 < daja77> rofl
16:07 < nookie> Hi clifford 
16:08 < clifford> hi nookie
16:20 < daja77> rxr: yep trying to, but before i'll test rc2 isos
16:20 < rxr> re
16:22 < rxr> clifford: anything special in that HTML file =
16:22 < daja77> novell buys suse
16:22 < clifford> special enought?
16:22 < daja77> of course
16:22 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=2&tt_news=19
16:23 < daja77> the big distros are falling apart ^^
16:23 < clifford> for 210 Mio. USD [181 Mio. Euro]
16:23 < rxr> ah - ...
16:24 < rxr> is the above news entry ok ?
16:26 < daja77> issue 10 - the fools of utah, lol
16:26 < clifford> "ROCK Linux is a not an ordinary rock."
16:26 < clifford> there is one "a" to much ...  ;-)
16:27 < clifford> yes - it's great! just fix the subject.  *g*
16:28 < rxr> hm - oO that typo is also in the orignial article ...
16:28 < rxr> is fixing typos valid in quotes?
16:28 < daja77> hmm don't think so
16:28 < clifford> daja77!
16:29 < rxr> anyway fixed this ...
16:29 < clifford> rene, please fix it - it sounds so stupid with that typo.
16:29 < clifford> thanks.
16:29 < daja77> clifford: :))
16:30  * daja77 is preparing a postcard for clifford
16:30 < clifford> an analouge one?  ;-)
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16:31 < daja77> yes, official chemnitzer linuxtag postcard
16:31 < daja77> rxr: if you give me your address you can have one too
16:32 < clifford> cool!
16:32 < nookie> Today I dreamed of linuxtag too
16:32 < nookie> But then I got awake
16:32 < nookie> waked
16:34 < clifford> https://www.cthulhulives.org/sanquiz/SaniTest2.nclk
16:35 < rxr> damn I get a relocation error during compiling qt-3.2.2 on PowerPC :-(
16:37 < nookie> *.nclk?
16:37 < robert> hi, nookie.
16:38 < nookie> (whois robert 
16:38 < nookie> :/
16:38 < nookie> Hu robert 
16:39 < robert> aehm from NoNameNet ;)
16:39 < nookie> Hehe, dachte ich mir.
16:40 < rxr> could someone switch the kde31 repository to branches/kde32
16:40 < rxr> and give it (or only qt) a try ?
16:41 < daja77> lol @ clifford
16:44 < daja77> insanity index 6.58
16:48 < rxr> cu
16:48 < pieass> cu
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16:49 < daja77> cu rxr
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17:05  * blindcoder back
17:17 < blindcoder> daja77: 5.76
17:18 < daja77> huh, does it mean i am more insane than you?
17:18 < clifford> daja77: 8.5 ...
17:18 < daja77> hehe
17:19 < blindcoder> the only thing that bugs me is that a) the test is buggy or b) I'm what I call myself
17:19 < blindcoder> it tells me that I missed question number "" (empty)
17:20 < daja77> blindcoder: but maybe that explains why i got libxml2 stuff working ^^
17:22 < blindcoder> hrm...
17:22 < daja77> you can't do it if you have < 6 ^^
17:22 < blindcoder> *snif*
17:23 < daja77> nah just kidding
17:24  * daja77 thinks if he can send blindy some code he wrote at work
17:26 < blindcoder> hm.m.. just a question regarding the rocklinux.org design...
17:26 < blindcoder> why are the content-boxes so far at the bottom?
17:30 < blindcoder> anyway, I'm off again
17:30 < blindcoder> see you later
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18:32 < daja77> rofl @ the rtai on debian thread
18:35 < blindcoder> ?
18:36 < daja77> on rtai ml they are complaining/talking about the rtai debs, funny thing is to get that running you have to do as much as if you would do it manually
18:37 < blindcoder> d'ouh
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19:12 < cchamilt> https://freshmeat.net/projects/netpanzer/
19:13 < cchamilt> it looks like no ai yet though
19:30 < daja77> cchamilt: can you use horde as a groupware too?
19:31 < cchamilt> yep
19:32 < cchamilt> shared tasks, calendars, email right now.  No FBURL or ical calenders nor TNEF (Outlook) integration yet though.
19:34 < cchamilt> I plan on implementing proxy sender email too by ldap searches in exim.
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20:30 < CyberLine> kasc ?
20:33 < CyberLine> shaman ?
20:35 < daja77> hi CyberLine 
20:35 < CyberLine> hi daja77
20:36 < CyberLine> german ?
20:36 < daja77> not in this chan
20:36 < daja77> but in query perhaps
20:37 < Mike1> *very big evil grin*
20:37 < daja77> hey Mike1 
20:37 < cchamilt> hi mike1 where were you?
20:37 < Mike1> hallo daja77! wie gehts?
20:38 < Mike1> cchamilt: there have been terrible power and connectivity problems in the past 2 dyas..
20:38 < daja77> Mike1: fine as always ^
20:38 < daja77> ^
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20:39 < Mike1> cchamilt: query
20:39 < cchamilt> K
20:39 < daja77> Mike1: reporting bugs *gg*
20:39 < Mike1> you little evil bastard :)
20:41 < daja77> <- already reported ^^
20:43 < Mike1> lol
20:49 < cchamilt> i am going to sleep, cya guys.
20:50 < daja77> n8 cchamilt 
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20:56 < rolla> yawn
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21:10 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
21:11 < elon> and rebrb
21:11 < elon> *fg*
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21:45 < daja77> hmm nice kernel oops during rc2 install
21:46 < daja77> now it died completely :(
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23:05 < pieass> anyone there?
23:06  * daja77 
23:06 < pieass> i have read, that rock wants to add support for other kernels, like hurd
23:07 < daja77> it is planned for 2.1 yes
23:07 < pieass> i would be interested in helping
23:08 < pieass> for hurd especially
23:08 < daja77> hmm there is no 2.1 tree yet, but feel free to send patches when it is open
23:08 < pieass> yes
23:09 < pieass> who has had this idea with hurd?
23:09 < daja77> clifford i think
23:09 < daja77> but basically lots of us thought sth like that
23:13 < pieass> there are many idiots doing hurd-bashing, who never even installed hurd.
23:14 < daja77> well it is not on my todo too
23:15 < daja77> but if i would go for its feature i think i would install plan9
23:16 < pieass> but i think you wouldn't talk bad about something you don't know.
23:24 < daja77> depends
23:27 < pieass> there is a quote from albert einstein on cliffords page, but i can't find it.
23:27 < pieass> it is something with 
23:27 < daja77> anyway i go to bed now
23:27 < pieass> ok
23:27 < pieass> sleep well
23:28 < pieass> some people have a horizon of radius zero and call this their standpoint, or so..
23:33 < Aard> bwachter@lart:~$ host microsoft.de
23:33 < Aard> microsoft.de has address 212.184.80.190
23:33 < Aard> microsoft.de has address 192.168.0.10
23:34 < pieass> huh?
23:34 < Aard> pieass: 2nd a record
23:36 < pieass> but 192.168.0.10?
23:36 < Aard> pieass: that's the funny part :)
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23:39 < tsa> hi.
23:39 < Mike1> hola.
23:39 < tsa> hola Mike1
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23:42 < pieass> gn8 all
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23:43 < rxr> re
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