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--- Log opened Mit Nov 05 00:00:04 2003 00:02 < rxr> n8 all 00:08 < __mnemoc> re 01:59 < __mnemoc> *yawn* 02:14 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.62.140] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 02:52 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:00 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E11EF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "*plopp*" 03:12 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-223.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 03:29 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-252.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 03:43 -!- lhang [~lhang@210.193.22.26] has joined #rocklinux 03:43 -!- lhang [~lhang@210.193.22.26] has left #rocklinux [] 03:45 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:36 < cchamilt> rehi 05:36 < __mnemoc> hi cchamilt 05:37 < cchamilt> got lyx building with qt 05:38 < __mnemoc> do u know when will rene restart commiting/commenting patches? 05:40 < __mnemoc> i don't care about kde3.2 :) there are lot of other stuff to do :\ 05:40 < cchamilt> heh i only have 50 packages or so waiting in his inbox... He is commiting things just nothing from us I guess. 05:41 < __mnemoc> btw, can you send them to the list so *we* can know/comment? 05:41 < cchamilt> Very few of them actually are X and only ones that dont touch anything. Most have been tested in builds for months making sure they worked... 05:41 < cchamilt> You want 300K to the list? 05:42 < __mnemoc> an abstract can be safe :) 05:42 < cchamilt> ls package/cchamilt ? 05:42 < __mnemoc> url can be better :) 05:43 < cchamilt> Man do we need something like tla, with an archive that is committed to by three people, but is NOT someone's test tree. 05:43 < __mnemoc> i know at least you and me are working with ldap stuff (just an example) 05:43 < __mnemoc> we need branches 05:44 < __mnemoc> branches in svn SUCKS 05:44 < cchamilt> Well I right now just do a pkg_openldap.conf in my own target that adds new sasl, etc. 05:45 < cchamilt> That was not given to rene (no targets sent). 05:45 < cchamilt> I could host a tla on my server. 05:45 < __mnemoc> mixing tla and svn??? 05:45 < cchamilt> 20GB/month bandwidth limit, but that isnt bad. Good connections to most part of the world. 05:46 < cchamilt> Thinking about dropping svn entirely. It was fine for rene, but no one else. 05:46 < __mnemoc> can you keep it sync'ed with rene's? 05:46 < cchamilt> We also need a cvs exposed for casual bleeding edge users. No svn only checkouts. 05:47 < cchamilt> I will start working on the scripts, don't know but I can try. 05:47 < __mnemoc> rene said 'rock is too big for tla'.... if you can prove that's false we can officially move :) 05:47 < cchamilt> I should probably get tcr's help since he uses tla more. 05:48 < cchamilt> That is totally bullshit, how did he come up with that? 05:48 < __mnemoc> we said that tcr doesn't "scale" 05:48 < cchamilt> tla is currently test sucking the kernel, emacs and I think there was even experiments with gcc. 05:49 < cchamilt> heh 05:49 < __mnemoc> s/tcr/to tcr that tla / 05:49 < cchamilt> we should notify tcr 05:49 < __mnemoc> :) 05:49 < cchamilt> I too am concerned with tcr's scalability. My benchmarks prove.... 05:50 < __mnemoc> lol 05:50 < cchamilt> I will play with it. tcr has access to my system so he can help. 05:50 < cchamilt> I dont want to fork, just hoover. 05:50 < __mnemoc> the key is to keep your tla's repo syncéd with rene's svn 05:50 < cchamilt> hoover, hover either is accurate 05:51 < cchamilt> weekly syncs would be enough :P 05:51 < __mnemoc> :( 05:51 < cchamilt> Just kidding. 05:52 < __mnemoc> but rock IS stalled :'( 05:52 < cchamilt> Yep, that is why we need multiple commiters. something discussed for years. 05:53 < cchamilt> I think I am committed for life to rock now. I have accepted all its flaws and they have bit me more than once and I am still here. 05:53 < cchamilt> But even I know that that does not mean daily service to it. 05:54 < cchamilt> Who the heck should I give commits to? 05:54 < cchamilt> rene and clifford, but neither will use it till it IS the standard. 05:54 -!- robert [robert@pD955674B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:54 -!- robert [robert@pD95565E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:55 < __mnemoc> daja, me, esden, you 05:55 < __mnemoc> and sync'ed with rene 05:55 < __mnemoc> tsa, tcr 05:55 < cchamilt> boy that makes it wide open. 05:55 < __mnemoc> jimmy! :) 05:56 < cchamilt> jimmy is good, you are good (though I conflict with your taste), esden is good but busy. 05:56 < __mnemoc> mmm 05:56 < __mnemoc> right 05:56 < cchamilt> daja tsa and tcr are trusted, but not sure if they need commit access. 05:57 < __mnemoc> cchamilt: i think we can't _conflict_ if we don't know each other :) 05:57 < cchamilt> commit is just to get other peoples stuff merged in. kind of like multiple linus to the kernel. 05:57 < cchamilt> i read your packages. i might like you personally, but rock code wise.... 05:57 < cchamilt> just like rene doesnt like my coding 05:58 < cchamilt> of course we have yelled at each other alot. we have got along pretty well during physical meetings. 05:58 < cchamilt> I think you just over use config.in that is all. Not much else. 05:58 < __mnemoc> when was your last 'physical meeting'? 05:59 < cchamilt> last year. 05:59 < __mnemoc> wow 05:59 < cchamilt> i think he might hold a grudge against me now :) 05:59 < __mnemoc> :o 06:00 < cchamilt> don't know if I will ever go back to europe anytime soon. 06:00 < cchamilt> no money right now. 06:00 < __mnemoc> about config.in, i don't like the idea of limiting a feature to just one target 06:00 < cchamilt> linuxtag was pretty good, but ccc was not worth the plane ride. 06:01 < __mnemoc> for me target=config+pkgsel 06:01 < __mnemoc> if i can add a config option to build anytarget for uml i would be happy 06:01 < cchamilt> I know why you chose config.in, I just think we need it better setup as it is getting crowded. 06:02 < cchamilt> uml, pam, maybe kerberos(now), big things like that are good for config.in 06:02 < cchamilt> goofy things like kde's prefix, no. 06:03 < cchamilt> Or at least at another separate level of menus. 06:03 < __mnemoc> currently menues are reaaaally slow 06:04 < cchamilt> ldap libraries option should be fixed when I send clifford my mine changes he is waiting on for complete globs. 06:04 < cchamilt> yes, dialog is weak and we are loading it down. also way too much reparsing going on. 06:05 < __mnemoc> btw, if you get an official /package/cchamilt you can take openldap... i'm not currently focues on it 06:06 < cchamilt> sweet thanks, it is critical to my groupware stuff. 06:06 < __mnemoc> i know 06:06 < cchamilt> i'll keep your library stuff till gasgui, etc. do globs correctly. 06:07 < __mnemoc> i'm used to send incremental patches to make 'acceptance' easier... that check was just a begining 06:08 < cchamilt> what all is planned? 06:08 < __mnemoc> currently i don't filter man pages, (example) 06:09 < cchamilt> hmm 06:09 < __mnemoc> that's an 'incompleteness' :) 06:09 < cchamilt> lets see. svn to tla script. Should I just strip the metadata? 06:09 < __mnemoc> i read your techworx some month ago, and i think we want the same 06:10 < cchamilt> I sent rene nss_ldap and pam_ldap. Also, ldapdns (with a complete init setup) 06:10 < __mnemoc> but's too target specific 06:11 < __mnemoc> sweet :) 06:11 < cchamilt> yeah, I have cleaned that up I hope. Still have some things targety. 06:13 < cchamilt> cinelerra not building :(. I have been irresponsibly filling out missing distrowatch packages. 06:15 < __mnemoc> svn2tla... hard to design... does tla supports ignore lists? that can make it little easier 06:15 < __mnemoc> (i don't like distrowatch :/ ) 06:16 < cchamilt> yeah, but distrowatch is nice to us for what we are. also, it helps keep us up with the joneses 06:16 < cchamilt> tla does about anything. it has a huge ignore mechanism. 06:17 < __mnemoc> maybe they can coexists :) 06:17 < cchamilt> that is the big problem with tla. it does anything anyone on their list thinks up. 06:18 < cchamilt> hmm maybe, tla can be incredibly clean in source directories. 06:18 < __mnemoc> and svn can ignore "{.*}" dirs :) 06:18 < cchamilt> Basically, it keeps meta data in a {arch} directory at root of tree and no where else. 06:19 < cchamilt> I'll look into it. 06:19 < __mnemoc> only at root? 06:19 < cchamilt> from what I've seen yes. 06:20 < __mnemoc> i need tortoise-tla :) 06:22 < cchamilt> tla scares me a bit, but using the simple commands seems to be ok. What we need is svn, arch, cvs. With svn sync, arch check-in, and anonymous cvs out. 06:24 < __mnemoc> yep :) 06:32 < cchamilt> cinelerra appears to be building so I guess I will start this project. 06:35 < __mnemoc> just for fun? 06:35 < __mnemoc> i'll sleep now 06:36 < __mnemoc> and PLEASE... do the tla thing 06:36 < __mnemoc> good night 06:38 < cchamilt> cya 06:40 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uiveq66.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 07:24 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uiveq66.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 07:28 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a59.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:37 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2inigul.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 07:43 < netrunne1> argl, build aborted - no space left :( 07:52 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has joined #rocklinux 07:52 < Baldzius> good morning 08:04 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091a59.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 09:16 < AOU> moin 09:34 -!- huebi [~huebi@sophie.huebner.it] has joined #rocklinux 09:34 < huebi> Moin 09:58 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2inigul.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 10:04 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has quit Remote closed the connection 10:07 < daja77> moin 10:11 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:12 < daja77> ui clifford on a fast conmection 10:12 < clifford> daja77: ?? 10:13 < clifford> hi, btw. 10:13 < daja77> hi clifford, sdsl no? 10:13 < clifford> 2 MBit (office) 10:14 < daja77> :=) 10:14 * daja77 is on isdn :) 10:16 < clifford> so I can chat much faster than you can, or what? ;-) 10:17 < daja77> lol, seems so 10:17 < daja77> devmeeting here would be fun in my small flat and isdn rate ^^ 10:18 < daja77> like 10 people driving a polski fiat or so 10:18 < clifford> ..we also had only isdn at my place.. 10:19 * clifford can't wait for next years dev. meeting housed by fake. ;-) 10:19 < daja77> yes I know :) 10:19 < daja77> someone cursing every 10 minutes ^^ 10:53 < blindcoder> you mean someone getting cursed every 10 minutes :) 10:53 < daja77> hehe yes sth like that 11:01 * blindcoder --> breakfast 11:02 * daja77 too 11:02 < daja77> cu later 11:51 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm150.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit "ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030331]" 11:56 -!- Nebukadneza2 is now known as Nebukadneza 11:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-196.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 11:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:35 < AOU> moin 13:17 < __mnemoc> re 13:19 < AOU> hi __mnemoc 13:19 < __mnemoc> hi HappyOwl 13:21 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:33 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091b36.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:48 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.162.83.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 13:57 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 < clifford> Who is that wanker that just submitted https://www.decopine.de to www.rocklinux.net ??? ;-) 14:06 < clifford> *grml*#@^&*grml*wastingmytime*$!@!!*thatgrumblers*%#$&!*grml* 14:07 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.168.183.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 14:11 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has quit 14:33 < rxr> re 14:46 < daja77> hi rxr 14:47 < rolla> re 14:47 < daja77> clifford: seems we need to implement autolart procedures for www.rocklinux.net 14:47 < daja77> hi rolla 14:50 < rxr> cu later 14:57 < clifford> daja77: I think its a sign for the success of a service that people start trying to abuse it... 14:57 < daja77> hehe good point 14:58 < clifford> rxr: https://www.rocklinux.net/flyspray/?do=details&id=179 14:59 < daja77> but i installed it successfully yesterday anyway ^^ 14:59 < clifford> is it a bug now or not? 15:00 < daja77> yes, if you are not selecting packages, nothing is installed at all and you get the prompt, umount -arv and stuff 15:01 < clifford> hm.. bad. 15:01 < clifford> sh*t - i think i do know what the problem is ... 15:02 < daja77> this is a showstopper bug that's why i gave it a higher priority 15:05 < clifford> daja77: you did select the option which should select everything ? 15:05 < daja77> yes 15:05 < daja77> full workstation install 15:05 < daja77> and when i checked no kernel and no other important stuff is selected when choosing that 15:07 < clifford> svn diff -r 15:16 https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/mine/trunk 15:07 < clifford> .. that _should_ have fixed it. 15:08 < daja77> is there a simple way to get that fixed that in the official isos before uploading them 15:08 < daja77> btw do the rock scripts support svn cos like they support them with cvs? 15:08 < clifford> hmm... what is "simle" ? 15:09 < clifford> I think a patch for that would always be welcome.. 15:09 < daja77> simple means in this case, not to restart a complete build cos it takes almost 2 days here 15:12 < clifford> "./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg foobar -delete mine" and restart the build. 15:12 < daja77> hmm wait it should be enough to rebuild bootdisk, no? 15:12 < daja77> oki think i know hoe to proceed 15:13 < daja77> yep 15:13 < daja77> doin new cds and testing 15:14 < daja77> have to check what happened to my laptop yesterday, had tons of kernel oopses during install until it completely fscked up 15:19 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [anders], rolla, daja77, clifford, scoopex, huebi, hannes, trekkie3k, AOU, __mnemoc, (+11 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 15:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox`, trekkie3k, Nebukadneza, clifford, huebi, kasc, [anders], blindcoder, hannes, AOU (+6 more) 15:20 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [anders], rolla, clifford, huebi, trekkie3k, blindcoder, Nebukadneza, true, cytrinox`, snyke 15:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: scoopex, robert, mistik1 15:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: _spectre_ 15:20 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: daja77, hannes, AOU, __mnemoc, kasc, SMP 15:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: hannes, kasc, AOU, daja77, __mnemoc, SMP 15:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 15:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox`, trekkie3k, Nebukadneza, clifford, huebi, [anders], blindcoder, rolla, snyke, true 15:23 < daja77> strange your patch can't be applied 15:49 < clifford> daja77: hm.... what's the problem with it? 15:55 < daja77> !> |Index: selector.c 15:55 < daja77> !> |======================================================= .. 15:55 < daja77> !> |--- selector.c (revision 15) 15:55 < daja77> !> |+++ selector.c (revision 16) 15:55 < daja77> !> -------------------------- 15:55 < daja77> !> No file to patch. Skipping patch. 15:55 < daja77> !> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored 16:09 < clifford> patchopt contains -p1. 16:10 < clifford> so it must be modified to be "./selector.c". 16:12 < daja77> d'oh, ok 16:15 < daja77> ok it worked *sigh* 17:15 -!- robert_ [robert@pD95565E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 -!- robert_ [robert@pD95565E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Client Quit 17:20 -!- robert [robert@pD95565E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Leaving" 17:21 < __mnemoc> *yawn* 17:21 -!- robert [robert@pD95565E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:21 -!- __mnemoc is now known as mnemoc 17:31 < netrunne1> hm crap, I noticed that install problem a while ago but forgot to report :( 17:37 < rolla> yawn 18:07 < blindcoder> hi there 18:43 < daja77> .oO ppl posting to rlml with outlook 18:44 < daja77> html mail *grml* 18:50 < clifford> daja77: html mail? who? 18:51 < daja77> stefan fiedler 18:52 -!- clifford is now known as bofh 18:52 < bofh> *clickediclick* 18:52 < daja77> :) 18:52 -!- bofh is now known as clifford 18:54 < clifford> Ok, I'll go home now and continue hacking draft-ietf-ipsec-isakmp-mode-cfg-05 as well as draft-ietf-ipsec-isakmp-xauth-06 into Pluto (FreeS/WAN). 18:55 < daja77> have fun, cu 19:03 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F9E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:03 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F430.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 19:03 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:05 < cytrinox`> hi 20:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802CAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 20:11 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 20:11 [Users #rocklinux] 20:11 [ [anders] ] [ blindcoder] [ Freak ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ trekkie3k] 20:11 [ _spectre_] [ clifford ] [ hannes ] [ Nebukadneza] [ rxr ] [ true ] 20:11 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox` ] [ huebi ] [ netrunne1 ] [ scoopex] 20:11 [ AOU ] [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner ] [ SMP ] 20:11 [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ mistik1] [ robert ] [ snyke ] 20:11 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 27 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 20:11 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 20:11 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 3 secs 20:12 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 20:19 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802DAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 20:26 < blindcoder> anyone got somethoughts about crypto-support in ROCK? 20:34 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091b36.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:54 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:54 < fake> g'evening 20:55 < blindcoder> hi fake 20:55 < blindcoder> GRAH 20:55 < blindcoder> encryption isn't backwards compatible from 2.4.22 to 2.4.21 >_< 20:57 < daja77> hi fake 20:57 < fake> hi blindcoder, daja77 20:57 < blindcoder> I can't mount a 2.4.21-encrypted fs with 2.4.22 >_< 21:01 < blindcoder> *cry* esden wa kowai! 21:06 < fake> bye 21:06 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has quit "BitchX: try our lowfat flavor too!" 21:19 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 21:27 < rolla> Creating initrd data: 21:27 < rolla> -> Create linuxrc binary. 21:27 < rolla> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 8: diet: command not found 21:28 < rolla> what does that mean? 21:29 < esden> hi all 21:34 < daja77> hi esden 21:34 < netrunner> hi esden 21:34 < netrunner> esden: the dhcp server did not work because he wanted an empty zone definition for his uplink. 21:35 < netrunner> rolla: could it be that your building system has no dietlibc installed? 21:37 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@213.254.65.154] has joined #rocklinux 21:38 < rolla> yeah 21:38 < rolla> installing it right now 21:41 * daja77 successfully installed rc2 from his isos on a laptop 21:43 < rolla> lucky you 21:45 < esden> netrunner: ahh good to know 21:46 < esden> netrunner: but you made everything to work 21:56 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 22:28 < netrunner> esden: sure, I am used to repair what you left ;) 22:32 * netrunner installed a desktop build on his laptop some weeks ago, and the graka/tft freaked completely up. 22:32 < netrunner> was quite a recent one, fsc lifebook e7010 ... 22:33 < netrunner> disabling the framebuffer helped, now at least x is usable. 22:33 * netrunner is talking to himself. 22:33 < daja77> hehe 22:36 < netrunner> daja77: laugh you! 22:36 < daja77> sure 22:36 < netrunner> another noisy night: 859 builds total, 577 completed fine, 14 with errors. (still building) 22:36 < daja77> good to have buold finished 22:37 * daja77 'll upload tested isos tomorrow or friday i hope 22:38 < rxr> re 22:40 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@213.254.65.154] has quit "I like core dumps" 22:40 < netrunner> hi rxr 22:41 < rxr> hi netrunner 22:43 < daja77> hi rxr, rc2 now running on that trouble machine on which rc1 failed 22:44 * daja77 included cliffords mine fix in the isos 22:44 < rolla> yawn 22:44 * daja77 waiting for the day when rolla is awake in this chan 22:45 < rolla> :) 22:45 < rolla> I am downloading source packages for my rock build 22:45 < daja77> good :) 22:45 < daja77> rc2 or trunk? 22:45 < rolla> trunk rc3 22:45 * netrunner decided to use gpg. 22:45 < daja77> guess I'll start a trunk build tomorrow 22:46 < rolla> I just have to remeber to strip out emacs and xemacs 22:46 < esden> netrunner: you were not using gpg till now? o_O 22:46 < esden> it is a base thing! 22:46 < esden> emacs ... *puke* ;) 22:46 < esden> (throwing a match in to the channel) 22:47 < netrunner> esden: haven't seen a signed/crypted mail from you either. 22:47 < daja77> hehe i missed esden here 22:47 < esden> (perhups it will catch a flame) 22:47 < netrunner> hm ... gpg --export was a bad idea, the terminal died :) 22:47 < rolla> esden: I know what you mean 22:47 < esden> netrunner: I sign all my mails. look closer 22:47 < rolla> only thing worse is the fact that gentoo like nano 22:47 < rolla> ugh 22:48 < esden> netrunner: you need to export it with armor 22:48 < daja77> nano ugh 22:48 < esden> rolla: uuuuuurgh 22:49 * daja77 off to bed, cu 22:51 < rolla> esden: yes first thing I do is emerge unmerge nano :) 22:53 < esden> rolla: you use gentoo? 22:53 < rolla> yes 22:53 < esden> aha ... 22:53 < rolla> ? 22:54 < rxr> ok - cu 22:54 < rolla> nacht rxr 22:54 < esden> I tryed to install debian stable from the net yesterday and it produced an error in one of the packets ... 22:54 < rolla> well that is your problem 22:54 < rolla> using debian 22:54 < esden> that was something that said that debian is not really as good as everyone around tryes to state 22:55 < esden> I was forced to! 22:55 < esden> it was not my idea 22:55 < rolla> sure you were 22:55 < rolla> ;) 22:55 < esden> :P 22:55 < rolla> I wish rock had somethign like emerge 22:57 < esden> it has ... 22:57 < esden> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg 22:57 < rolla> have I been gone that long? 22:57 < rolla> damn :( 22:57 < esden> it seems so 22:58 < esden> I use this emerge all the time and it works _pretty_ well 22:58 < rolla> well I must work on this new build and test it out 22:58 < rolla> define pretty 22:58 < esden> I had no problems with it since some months ... 22:58 < esden> only in the beginning phase it had problems 22:59 < esden> and since the dependancies in rocklinux are not really good you should not use the -dep option of Emerge-Pkg 22:59 < esden> but for installing all possible packets it is perfectly usable 22:59 < rolla> I see that feature would have to work so I could use it where it needs to be used 23:00 < esden> humm ... ok 23:00 < rolla> that is the part I hate is figureing out all the deps 23:00 < esden> that is also the reason why I can not convince the guys in my institute to use rock 23:00 < rolla> what do they use? 23:00 < esden> debian 23:00 < rolla> :( 23:00 < esden> ack 23:01 < esden> but better then suse or rh 23:01 < rolla> I have gentoo and rock here 23:07 < rolla> esden: did you hear about redhat dropping redhat linux? 23:07 < netrunner> hm ... what do I need to do to mutt that he checks signatures? (besides gpg.rc) 23:09 < rolla> not sure 23:15 < esden> rolla: no that is new for me 23:16 < rolla> yeah they only want to do servers now 23:16 < rolla> time to go talk to you later 23:23 < esden> cu rolla 23:30 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-196.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 23:39 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:47 < netrunner> ah ... works. 23:47 < netrunner> n8 23:53 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "$default_quit_message" --- Log closed Don Nov 06 00:00:22 2003