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00:12 < rxr> sed updated ;)
00:12 < rxr> cu - good night
00:17 < daja77> n8 rxr me off too
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02:26 < mnemoc> re
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06:08 < AOU> moin
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07:05 < nookie> Guten Moin.
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07:22 < AOU> moin nookie 
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07:41 < AOU> hi mnemoc 
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08:12 < rxr> re
08:14 < AOU> moin rxr 
08:14 < AOU> how are you?
08:17 < rxr> moin AOU
08:17 < rxr> (mostly) good, thanks - and you
08:19 < AOU> extremely tired. and ok... thx
08:52 < blindcoder> moin
08:52 < rxr> moin blindcoder 
08:53 < blindcoder> moin rxr
08:57  * blindcoder downloading more maps for gpsdrive
09:09 < rxr> mnemoc_: awake?
09:10 < daja77> moin
09:11 < rxr> moin daja77 !
09:11 < daja77> moin rxr :)
09:15 < blindcoder> moin daja77 
09:15 < blindcoder> hrm... ncurses fails here with rev 1724
09:15 < rxr> blindcoder: just committed yet another ncurses fix 
09:16 < rxr> blindcoder: which stage does your ncurses fail - and what is the log tail?
09:16 < daja77> blindcoder: /me now building lvp target :)
09:16 < blindcoder> stage 3, but this is from a Create-ErrList -newdelete
09:17 < blindcoder> daja77: good luck :)
09:19 < AOU> moin  blindy
09:20 < blindcoder> moin $owl
09:23 < rxr> blindcoder: could you do a svn up ?
09:24 < blindcoder> rxr: just done with it and restarted the build
09:28 < blindcoder> WEEE! ncurses built fine!
09:29 < AOU> congtrasts
10:03 < blindcoder> ha, as I thought, seahorse doesn't compile :/
11:13 < rxr> hm - qite silent here ... :-(
11:14 < blindcoder> as usual :/
11:16 < blindcoder> hmm... I think I'll get myself a PCMCIA-WLan Card for my laptop...
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11:16 < blindcoder> instead of the Linuxant-Driver-Wrapper
11:17 < AOU> hm. shit... openoffice-1.1 is sweet... used as replacement for microsoft office by me now...
11:20 < rxr> self compiled?
11:21 < AOU> who? what?
11:21 < blindcoder> is self-compiling openoffice even possible? :)
11:22 < rxr> sure - why not?
11:22 < AOU> possible. .. guess it should be... but i didn't
11:22 < rxr> but it is ugly and AFAIK needs Java ...
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11:46 < daja77> afaik you need a special gcc version vor compiling openoffice
11:47 < daja77> even gentoo delivers binaries for that package ...
11:47 < AOU> hi daja77 
11:47 < daja77> hi owl
11:47 < rxr> daja77: huh - special gcc version? I have not heared this one
11:48 < rxr> and I think ROCK people also compiled it
11:48 < rxr> you just need to perform some ugly hacking and Java until it compiles ...
11:48 < daja77> somebody told me recently, haven't tried myself
11:49 < rxr> gentoo is not measurement - they ship broken or precom. crap all over the place
11:49 < rxr> e.g. for racer (so only intel + the need of the commercial libfmod (which they ship, too - but I wonder if they are aware that it is commercial ...)
11:49 < rxr> )
11:50 < daja77> hehe
11:53 < rxr> they are really lazzy morons - not doing anything suphisticated
11:53 < rxr> so... even ...
11:53 < rxr> take a look in most ebuild script - full of hacks and maunal crap ...
11:58 < daja77> don't get angry :)
11:59 < blindcoder> WEE! My new Mobile Phone just arrived :)
11:59  * blindcoder --> playing :)
12:03 < AOU> blindcoder: which mobile?
12:03 < rxr> the raid MD kernel stuff is extreme crap
12:04 < daja77> *gg* rxris back ranting
12:05 < rxr> hey - it once forced me to hack a full night on a reconstruction program by analyzing the crap kernel code
12:05 < blindcoder> AOU: Siemens M55
12:05 < rxr> and guess what - this GNOME and MONO wannebe Miguel Icaza wrote this crap of shit
12:05 < daja77> oh that is really bad
12:05 < rxr> and now this damn code is not able to hotadd my new spare disc correcty
12:05 < daja77> hehe yes he has a tendency to break things
12:06 < rxr> I now have a device with 5 discs (when it should have 4) without sprace
12:06 < rxr> I wonder how soon this will blow up
12:06 < rxr> damn crap
12:06 < daja77> he should have stick to midnight commander perhaps
12:06 < rxr> when I spent a whole night writing the recostruction prog I should have sit down and rewrite this kernel fluff
12:06 < daja77> doin other peoples work is annoying
12:06 < rxr> it crarries arround tons of redundant information - which are easy to become unynced
12:07 < rxr> unsynced even
12:07 < rxr> no wonder that hotadding discs is that fraggile with this data model ...
12:07 < rxr> this guy should really stick to a midnight commander - but one I do not use ...
12:08 < daja77> *ggg*
12:08 < daja77> he wrote the original ...
12:08  * daja77 off to university now
12:08 < rxr> does someone has a running software RAID array with a spare disk here?
12:20 < rxr> if my server is dead in some minutes
12:20 < rxr> this id due to fsck linux software raid
12:21  * rxr off buying a pizza ...
12:21 < rxr> cu
12:37 < AOU> someone knows where to get libxml{1,2}-devel-sources?
13:06 < rxr> inside the libxml{,2} packages?
13:09 < AOU> aehm? and how to build them? some special flags?
13:13 < rxr> AOU: you should know how to look into a ROCK Linux build config ...
13:14 < AOU> arghs. sorry.
13:14 < AOU> fatal I/O error... brain n/a currently
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13:40  * AOU skins the next available gnome-developer *gnarf*
14:18 < robert___> has scripts/Download a parameter to download all missing packages?
14:19 < clifford> robert___: Download --all
14:20 < clifford> .. it never downloads packages which are already there .
14:20 < robert___> Download --all <- there download all packages or? 
14:20 < robert___> -required download not all?!
14:21 < clifford> -required = download all packages for the given build configuration.
14:21 < robert___> yes
14:21 < clifford> -all = download everything (independent of the configuration)
14:21 < robert___> and i wan't download all packages there were listet with Download -list-missing
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14:25 < cytrinox`> moin
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14:30 < robert___> ohh, gcc-2.9.5? ...very old
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14:38 < mnemoc_> re
14:41 < robert___> ahh, now it load gcc-3.2.3 :-)
14:42 < mnemoc_> you can choose between gcc-2.9.5, 3.2.3, 3.3.2 and 3.4-snapshot
14:43 < robert___> ok. 
14:43 < robert___> but first i must load all :)
14:44 < mnemoc_> do your config first and Download -required ;)
14:45 < robert___> can i easy update the gcc on the running ROCK? because i only build the rock to burn 
14:46 < mnemoc_> you build at stage 0 your choosen gcc with whatever you have installed
14:47 < mnemoc_> after that you use the ONE for everything
14:47 < robert___> and i can't update the gcc like debian or gentoo?
14:47 < mnemoc_> sure you can
14:47 < robert___> ok
14:47 < mnemoc_> option 1: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkh
14:48 < mnemoc_> option 2: mine -i
14:48 < mnemoc_> Emerge-Pkg
14:49 < mnemoc_> svn: Unknown hostname 'svn.rocklinux-consulting.de' :'(
14:50 < mnemoc_> www.foo resolves, but svn.foo doesn't
14:56 < mnemoc_> now resolved
14:57 < netrunne1> I'd guess it's still the thing behind his dsl line, no?
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14:59 < mnemoc_> rocklinux-consulting is @ his house??
14:59 < netrunner> do not know. schillernet was.
15:01 < netrunner> trace it. runs on a qsc line. I do not know if they are housing, but I do know rxr has a dsl line from them.
15:09 < netrunner> anybody knows if w2k has a max # of processes running?
15:12 < mnemoc_> brb
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15:29 < daja77> re
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15:32 < holyolli> moin
15:32 < daja77> moin holyolli 
15:32 < holyolli> hi daja77
15:33 < holyolli> daja77: any idea where to find a precompiled version of gcc3 for alpha?
15:33 < holyolli> daja77: it won't compile at my machine
15:33 < daja77> not really /me doesn't have any alpha :(
15:33 < daja77> cross compile on pc?
15:33 < holyolli> i
15:34 < holyolli> will try it, when my pc has finished the drock-i686-build ;-)
15:34 < daja77> :)
15:34 < holyolli> daja77: it just sucks that i don't have that much time at the moment :(
15:34 < daja77> indeed this is a known bug for me too :)
15:35 < holyolli> *g*
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16:01 < rolla> re
16:01 < holyolli> hi rolla
16:01 < daja77> hi rolla 
16:40  * netrunner -> home
16:41 < daja77> cu netrunner 
16:41 < holyolli> .oO(./nick homerunner... ;-) cu)
16:41  * elon is away: pumpum
16:42 < daja77> why the hell I read pumpgun now
16:43 < holyolli> daja77: monday...? ;-)
16:44 < daja77> hehe perhaps
18:44 < rxr> re
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19:19 < _spectre_> re
19:25 < mnemoc_> highlight? hilight? hilite? what's the right way to write it?
19:28  * elon is back (gone 02:47:03)
19:29 < elon> re
19:38 < netrunner> mnemoc_: the first.
19:40 < mnemoc_> netrunner: thanks :)
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19:58 < Mike1> moin.
19:58 < mnemoc_> moin Mike1 
19:58 < Mike1> Don Ale :)
19:58 < mnemoc_> Don RedHat :)
20:00 < Mike1> lol... no anymore..
20:00 < Mike1> not*
20:01 < rolla> re
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20:07 < mnemoc_> Mike1: what distro are you profiting with currently?
20:08 < Mike1> I'm done with most of my contracts
20:08 < Mike1> so commercially for others doing debian stuff. company stuff is rock based again
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20:14 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
20:14 < holyolli> Mike1: ah..that was the reminder...when i'm able to boot windows, i create some images
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20:15 < Mike1> holyolli: mm.. well i know there is a HUGE demand for pilots in Canada.. but you could give a shot here as well
20:15 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now )
20:15 < holyolli> Mike1: seriously?
20:16 < Mike1> yes seriously.
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20:21 < tcr> moin all
20:21 < holyolli> moin tcr
20:23 < Mike1> greetings tcr
20:23 < mnemoc_> moin tcr
20:24 < mnemoc_> tcr: did cchamilt told you about his rock@tla project?
20:25 < tcr> mnemoc_: I've read it in his email
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20:26 < mnemoc_> he is working on it, maybe you can help him to get it done :)
20:27 < tcr> I have to talk to him anyway. Please remind me I'm owing him a talk once we both are here
20:27 < mnemoc_> ok
20:55 < netrunne1> oh wonderful, ocamlbuild gets terminated by linuxkernel on my laptop :)
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21:12  * tcr wonders where there's ice in the far west
21:15 < mnemoc> inside the refrigerators
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21:23 < mnemoc> no more ice in the far west
21:26 < netrunner> ah, unison depends on labelgtk ... 
21:26  * netrunner darkly remembers a script that automatically resolves deps
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21:59 < blindcoder> hi. anyone knows a program to edit .wav files for linux?
22:02 < netrunner> vi
22:02  * netrunner *giggles*
22:02 < netrunner> blindcoder: audacity (name in my head, havent used it). or sox
22:04 < blindcoder> hmm... will try
22:04 < blindcoder> thanks
22:04 < netrunner> blindcoder: what, vi? :)
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22:17 < mnemoc> netrunner: what patch?
22:27 < mnemoc> *yawn*
22:37 < netrunner> mnemoc: argl :(
22:38 < netrunner> resent/attached
22:46 < mnemoc> [X] patch applied??? where? :)
22:46 < mnemoc> yes, it is attached :)
22:47 < mnemoc> this.goHome( now );
23:02 < netrunner> mnemoc: ach geh doch heim!
23:02 < netrunner> mnemoc: hey, it's late :)
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23:26 < daja77> blindcoder: you here?!
23:50  * daja77 off to bed now
23:50 < daja77> cu
23:51 < netrunner> n8 daja77 
23:52  * netrunner follows. the idea, not daja77 to bed ;)
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