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06:44 < AOU> moin
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08:30 < rxr> re
08:30 < rxr> moin AOU 
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08:37 < AOU> moin rxr 
08:37 < AOU> rxr: how are you?
09:38 < netrunner> moin
09:44 < AOU> moin netrunner 
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09:47 < AOU> moin clifford !
09:47 < clifford> moin.
09:47 < netrunner> hi clifford 
09:48  * clifford has tummy-ache ... :-(
09:48 < clifford> hi netrunner.
09:49 < AOU> clifford: get on well soon
09:54 < netrunner> tummy? that ketchup company?
09:54 < AOU> netrunner: "bauchschmerzen"
09:56 < netrunner> AOU: hey, I made a joke. but doesn't work on monday morning ;)
09:57 < AOU> ah so
10:20 < netrunner> kde is suicide endangered? 3358 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid --suicide
10:42 < daja77> moin
10:42 < vegai> hmm, my system's got a newer version of head and tail, which don't accept -xx-parameters 
10:43 < vegai> head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
10:43 < vegai> ...and so forth. 
10:50 < vegai> anyone know if this has been fixed in the later versions (I was trying 2.0-rc2 now)
10:50  * daja77 doesn't know
10:54 < netrunner> vegai: what version of tail (coreutils) do you have?
10:56 < vegai> 5.0.91
10:56 < vegai> anything from 5.0 up has that obsoleted, I think
10:58 < netrunner> vegai: I wonder where you found that. http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/coreutils/ only has 5.0
10:59 < netrunner> vegai: what dist/os do you run?
10:59 < vegai> yeah, this is an evil hacked one
11:00 < vegai> but still, 5.0 also has -xx obsoleted
11:00 < vegai> (I downgraded just now)
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11:18 < netrunner> vegai: I have 5.0 here. and I get no such error message.
11:19 < netrunner>        -n, --lines=NUMBER
11:19 < netrunner>               print first NUMBER lines instead of first 10
11:19 < netrunner> from the head manpage
11:19 < netrunner> nothing about obsolete or deprecated.
11:20 < netrunner> vegai: maybe you have multiple coreutils in your path?
11:26 < vegai> no... just one
11:26 < vegai> odd
11:27 < vegai> netrunner: eg. tail -10 doesn't complain there?
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11:41 < rxr> re
11:43 < netrunner> vegai: no
11:43 < netrunner> hi rxr
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12:18 < vegai> hmm, ok... so, if I want to use the prebuilt ISOs, do I need all three?
12:32 < daja77> yes
12:33 < netrunner> daja77: I disagree.
12:34 < netrunner> vegai: you can also use only the first, but you can then only install packages that reside on the first :)
12:34 < netrunner> vegai: and they are basically alphabetically distributed, then by best fit optimized.
12:34 < clifford> gasgui and Create-ISO still don't have support for grouping packages on CDs so we can create a "base" CD and various add-on CDs.
12:35 < daja77> netrunner: linux2x packages are on the second cd
12:35 < daja77> hi clifford :)
12:35 < netrunner> daja77: well, if he _needs_ linux2x, then he needs the 2nd cd :)
12:35 < clifford> hi, btw.
12:36 < daja77> you can't boot from abiword so ...
12:36 < netrunner> daja77: have you tried?
12:36 < daja77> nope
12:36 < daja77> maybe you can boot with emacs
12:36 < netrunner> daja77: so ...
12:36 < netrunner> daja77: that I wouldn't try ;)
12:36 < daja77> netrunner: it is not our job to confuse newbies here ;-)
12:36 < clifford> .. the real reason why we need support for BSD kernels ...  ;-)
12:37 < netrunner> grub could be on the first cd .. :)
12:37 < daja77> *shudder*
12:37 < netrunner> hahaha
12:43  * daja77 off again
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13:29  * netrunner is on the trace of his cluster-error
13:29 < netrunner> s/error/bug
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14:25 < netrunner> argl, lost track
14:27 < cytrinox> moin
14:33 < clifford> http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/C_17_Landing.jpg *lol*
14:42 < rolla> clifford that pic is dumb looking
14:44 < clifford> http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/373.gif
14:44 < clifford> rolla: yes - but the text is great.
14:54 < rolla> how so?
14:55 < rolla> I find it insulting
14:57 < clifford> why? it's obviously just a joke - so I don't see in which way it would be insulting ..
14:57 < clifford> and to whom? the USAF and USN ?
15:15 < rolla> to any american
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15:34 < daja77> re
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17:04  * daja77 just got some nice hw for rt stuff to get it to work with linux
17:18 < netrunner> daja77: want some more? http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2766795954
17:18 < netrunner> :)
17:19 < blindcoder> hi all
17:20 < netrunner> hi blindcoder 
17:21 < blindcoder> anyone got an idea on how to feed a file >2GB to mkisofs?
17:22 < netrunner> blindcoder: cat $bigfile | mkisofs
17:23 < blindcoder> netrunner: looks wrong...
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17:28 < netrunner> blindcoder: iso9660 can not handle files >2G. if you want to put that on a dvd, put a filesystem there.
17:31 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... will have to experiment with that... I need the DVD still in bootable state
17:33 < netrunner> blindcoder: what file do you want to put there? can't  you split it?
17:33  * netrunner eating ice cream
17:33 < blindcoder> An encrypted filesystem...
17:34 < netrunner> blindcoder: as far as I have read, you can directly put a filesystem on a dvd. with some minor issues. maybe start on the hp of the avm/dvd+rw-tools package
17:35 < blindcoder> I'll try. thanks.
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17:40 < daja77> netrunner: nice but i spoke of other hw ;-)
17:41 < netrunner> hahaha What good is an ISO filesystem image that is greater than CD-ROM sized
17:41 < netrunner> anyways?
17:42 < netrunner> daja77: oh, just an idea. 
17:42 < daja77> *ggg*
17:42  * netrunner hopes to find a dau who buys his old hw
17:42 < daja77> you are selling that?
17:42 < netrunner> ack
17:42 < daja77> rofl
17:43  * daja77 kicks netrunner for confusing me with a dau
17:44 < netrunner> daja77: it's almost a praefix of your nick ;)
17:45 < netrunner> mmhm this alamond-honey icecream tastes wonderful ;)
17:46 < daja77> it is also the prefix of data so what
17:48 < blindcoder> netrunner: for a DVD?
17:51 < daja77> what a pity that clifford isn't here atm
17:51 < netrunner> data, dau, daja77  :)
17:52 < netrunner> evolutional history, chapter 1 ;)
17:53 < daja77> netrunner, netwalker, netlamer
17:53 < daja77> :p
17:55 < netrunner> hrmpf
17:55 < netrunner> 1:1
17:55 < daja77> ;-)
17:55  * netrunner now concentrates on an ebay-snipe.
17:58 < netrunner> ah, that bidwatcher worked. I was in doubt ...
18:05 < daja77> aaaaaargh never ever let windows idiots make a cdrom with html content
18:06 < daja77> the confuse big and small letters all the way, in short short their links are broken
18:14 < blindcoder> daja77: it's not their fault that they're being made stupid
18:14 < daja77> made stupid, you mean i should kill their parents?
18:15 < blindcoder> not genetically
18:15 < blindcoder> not always...
18:15 < daja77> you mean windows made them stupid
18:15 < blindcoder> Well... "Windows thinks of everything"(TM)
18:19 < netrunner> muahaha http://www.faber-castell.de/docs/index-news.asp?id=14506&sp=D&m1=10328&m2=13092&m3=14506&m4=&domid=1010
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18:21 < daja77> damn the linux driver is binary only and precompiled for each kernel seperately
18:21 < daja77> *gnarf*
18:21 < blindcoder> 9~MUAHAHAHA
18:22 < blindcoder> netrunner: nice :)
18:22 < blindcoder> netrunner: obviously, that text comes from a UNIX-person. No Windows-User would know what TeX is
18:22 < daja77> but TeX works on windows as well
18:23 < blindcoder> that's another story
18:23 < daja77> yep
18:23 < daja77> TeX even works on plan9 ^^
18:28 < daja77> cu later
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18:41 < fake> good evening
18:41 < blindcoder> fake: moin
18:45 < rxr> rere
18:45 < blindcoder> hi rxr
18:52 < rxr> hehehe:
18:52 < rxr> Bill Gates said, "You don't need perfect code to avoid security problems." Not if you use firewalls and keep your software up to date.
18:53 < rxr> well even if linux is not perfect - as bill gates claims we can now saw just keep the linux firewalls and other software up to date
18:58 < netrunner> glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!
19:00 < netrunner> what is that always?
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19:00 < blindcoder> If I should guess...
19:01 < netrunner> yes
19:02 < blindcoder> Then I'd say that glib is not installed in usr/ :D
19:02 < netrunner> gnaa
19:03 < blindcoder> sorry ;)
19:03 < blindcoder> did you check if glib did build?
19:03 < netrunner> in log-current/5-glib12.log: ./configure --prefix=/opt/gnome
19:03 < netrunner> I cannot believe that we have a package that just does not find glib.
19:03 < blindcoder> hmm... that should be the answer then
19:04 < netrunner> 5-orbit10.log exists. so that one built. :(
19:06 < netrunner> the interesting thing is, that the only thing 5-orbit2.err contains, is the two lines: 
19:06 < netrunner> The package build aborted with the following config error:
19:06 < netrunner> glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!
19:07 < blindcoder> hm
19:09 < blindcoder> Paranoia Check maybe?
19:10 < netrunner> is on. is that bad?
19:10 < blindcoder> I think
19:10 < netrunner> http://www.mycal.net/old/pirates/Mycal_-_Pirates_Life_4_me.mp3
19:10 < blindcoder> I usually build without
19:10 < netrunner> that shouldn't be the solution, though.
19:11 < blindcoder> maybe...
19:17 < netrunner> that's also the reason for the module-init-tools vs. modutils problem.
19:17 < blindcoder> haven't had one here
19:19 < netrunner> blindcoder: have you built both packages? they share files.
19:19 < blindcoder> I think I did
19:19 < blindcoder> but shared files only report with Paranoia Checks enabled
19:19 < netrunner> blindcoder: but without paranoia, ... yes
19:19 < blindcoder> which they are not
19:20 < netrunner> so I should adress clifford/rene to handle their shared files problem.
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19:47 < daja77> re
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20:07 < daja77> hi th
20:12 < th> hi daja
20:12 < th> i've been wrong on the ML
20:12 < th> that fontconfig problem is in gimp build
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20:19 [ [anders]  ] [ channelDragon] [ esden ] [ mistik1    ] [ OffToWar] [ th       ] 
20:19 [ _spectre_ ] [ cytrinox     ] [ fake  ] [ mnemoc     ] [ rolla   ] [ trekkie3k] 
20:19 [ Aard      ] [ daja77       ] [ hannes] [ Nebukadneza] [ rxr     ] [ true     ] 
20:19 [ aszlig    ] [ dreamind     ] [ kasc  ] [ netrunne1  ] [ SMP     ] [ vegai    ] 
20:19 [ blindcoder] [ elon         ] [ MadTux] [ netrunner  ] [ snyke   ] 
20:19 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal]
20:19 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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20:19 < daja77> th: only one fontconfig problem
20:19 < daja77> ?
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20:20 < netrunne1> hrmpf. mozilla does not find gtk+, but it was built before. am I seeing ghosts?
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20:21 < tcr> moin all
20:21 < daja77> moin tcr
20:22 < tcr> Heh :P daja77... I've got used that you're the one who greets me when I come to this time
20:22 < th> daja77: http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/reference/2003-11-12/9-gimp.err
20:22 < tcr> What are you going
20:23 < tcr> doing
20:23  * daja77 idling a bit before goin to bed
20:23 < th> netrunne1: there have been lots of gtk renames
20:23 < tcr> daja77, that early?
20:23 < netrunne1> moin tcr
20:23 < th> netrunne1: e.g. s/libidl10/libidl/
20:23  * daja77 has to get up early tomorrow
20:23  * tcr finally got to reading mails :)
20:23 < tcr> daja77, well me too, 6am
20:24 < netrunne1> th: this is only wonderful as long as it does not break anything.
20:24 < tcr> hey netrunne, th
20:25 < th> netrunne1: but it breaks a lot / some stuff
20:25 < th> hi tcr
20:26 < daja77> btw i was not speaking of build errors due fontconfig but runtime errors in rc2
20:27 < th> daja77: oh.. runtime errors... well speaking of runtime... i'm at rock-1.6
20:27 < daja77> hehe
20:27 < th> well ok, i've -rc2.5 on one small nfs server without x
20:28 < daja77> guess I have a 1.6 on a machine that is down, never used it much
20:30 < tcr> Can anyone recommend a cd-burner (linux support of course) in a price range of 100-130euro ?
20:30 < tcr> It may cost less of course, too :)
20:30 < th> tcr: there are burners that expensive out there?
20:31 < th> and what does "linux support" mean?
20:31 < tcr> th: No idea, my current brenner is almost 4 years old
20:31 < daja77> ayn atapi compatible burner works
20:31 < daja77> any
20:31 < tcr> 4 years ago burners were darn fucking expensive :)
20:31 < th> tcr: alternate offers dvd burner for 89EUR
20:32 < th> tcr: cdrw for ~42
20:32 < tcr> Good to know... :) (so I can add one more book on my xmas wishlist ;))
20:32 < th> tcr: and i expect them almost all to work with ide-scsi emulation
20:33 < tcr> th: ide-scsi emulation that's stone-age :)
20:33 < th> tcr: but it works
20:33 < th> i see no reason not to emulate my optical drives as scsi
20:34 < tcr> Aye, but it's been a bit tedious to get it running
20:34 < th> aehm. not at all at my side
20:34 < netrunne1> AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
20:34 < netrunne1> sorry
20:34 < tcr> th: I know you're a very strong zealot of scsi 
20:34 < th> tcr: i'm not
20:35 < tcr> Hmm, I may confusing you with someone else then
20:35 < netrunne1> gnagnagna
20:35 < netrunne1> we have package names that are prefix of others.
20:35 < netrunne1> who had this crappy idea?
20:35 < th> tcr: perhaps with Joerg Schilling
20:35 < netrunne1> gngngn
20:35 < daja77> netrunne1: ?
20:35  * netrunne1 loads his gun
20:36 < netrunne1> daja77: we have gtk+ for the 2.0 one, and gtk+12 for the older
20:36 < netrunne1> daja77: now guess what
20:36 < tcr> th: No, someone out of this channel... huebi or tsa maybe
20:37 < daja77> netrunne1: the old crap looks for gtk+?
20:37 < netrunne1> daja77: the package queue checks requirement for gtk+. with a substring function. so what?
20:37 < netrunne1> he finds the old. 
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20:37 < netrunne1> thanks.
20:37 -!- You're now known as netrunner
20:37 < daja77> O_o
20:38 < netrunner> hm. that cannot be. I am missing something here. but that seems to be the stinking source somewhere nearby
20:39 < netrunner> fact is, when I had gtk+12 finished, mozilla got scheduled.
20:39 < daja77> oh
20:39 < tcr> th: I hate ide-scsi because I'd need general scsi support within the kernel iirc
20:39 < daja77> so what
20:40 < netrunner> aha. scripts/dep_db.txt says mozilla depends on gtk+22. this is not an existing package and therefore ignored. wonderful.
20:40 < netrunner> who creates that dep_db.txt?
20:41 < netrunner> building obviously makes no sense without a correct one.
20:41 < th> tcr: i've always general scsi support within the kernel cause of usb-storage
20:41  * daja77 goes to bed now
20:41 < netrunner> maybe the ones renaming packages shalt be so kind also rename them in the dep_db?
20:41 < netrunner> n8 daja77 
20:41 < tcr> gn8 th
20:41 < tcr> erm daja77
20:42 < tcr> th: usb.. uh, never had that luxus ;)
20:42 < netrunner> tcr: no. you can load generic scsi as module.
20:42 < netrunner> tcr: if you do need the generic interface.
20:42 < tcr> netrunner, modular kernels are for whimps ;)
20:42 < daja77> netrunner: afaik it is generated from reference build, maybe it is just outdated
20:43 < netrunner> tcr: trying to argue with me? come over here!
20:43 < daja77> damn i'd like to see that beating
20:43 < daja77> anyway I am off
20:43 < tcr> netrunner, where's here?
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20:48 < netrunner> tcr: forget it, just calmed down a bit ;)
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21:04 < rxr> netrunner: the depdb is created from a reference build
21:04 < rxr> normally be the tree maintainer
21:05 < rxr> but the last reference build had some other dependecy issues - this is why I did not genereate those
21:05 < rxr> I'll start a new reference build tonight or so - so we should have an update dep list soon
21:05 < rxr> and we should not rename packags so often ...
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21:08 < rxr> hi elon 
21:09 < elon> re
21:09 < elon> hi rxr
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21:41 < netrunner> hi rxr, sorry for cursing so loud. but it took me some time to find out that I can't fix it
21:41 < netrunner> +
21:41 < netrunner> #-
21:41 < netrunner> :-}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
21:42 < netrunner> argl, gf wants to chat
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22:25 < LocalHero> Hi all
22:28 < netrunner> hi LocalHero 
22:28  * netrunner wonders where RemoteHero is logged in ;)
22:30 < LocalHero> netrunner, hehe :)
22:31 < netrunner> maybe it's a RemoteHeroine?
22:32 < LocalHero> hmm, is it possible to run cluster build with smb instead of nfs
22:32 < LocalHero> I cant use nfs due to unsecure lan :(
22:40 < rxr> hm - is smb more secure?
22:40 < rxr> but theoretically this should be possible (I think)
22:40 < rxr> OT: Why can't life be as easy as writing computer programs?
22:43 < vegai> it is, you're just using the wrong language =P
22:43 < vegai> or right one 
22:43 < LocalHero> rxr, well, uhh, somebody cant take your ip and have access to the box but no its not more secure :).. They have blocked nfs so thats why i dont use it
22:44 < LocalHero> rxr, doesnt it create problem with file attributes?
22:46 < netrunner> LocalHero: depends on what you have on the smb-server, no? I have the download/ on a server, that doesn't hurt to be on smb ...
22:47 < netrunner> LocalHero: if you have the build/ or the whole rock-linux/ on smb, that screws the permissions of the files built/installed/packaged
22:54 < rxr> hm - I do not remeber how much permission stuff is exported via SMB - but wasn't the basic stuff just working
22:55 < rxr> it should even include ACL fluff - but I do not use SMB on a regular basis ...
22:57 < netrunner> rxr: you only have windows-like permissions. for the user you specified at mount. all files have the same user/group.
22:57 < rxr> oehm - windows NT has full ACL stuff
22:57 < netrunner> and iirc all files have the same permissions.
22:58 < netrunner> rxr: yes. but not with samba-clients. you log in as one user.
22:58 < LocalHero> well i think i skip smb then. I havent had time to check openafs out. Does it has all unix permission?
22:59 < netrunner> at least, this is as far as I experienced it. I do not know if there is some pam/samba magic, that automatically authenticates  local users to the nt server. 
22:59 < netrunner> afs is cool. it has standard unix perms + extra acls.
22:59 < netrunner> haven't used it for a while ... that company I did it for died :)
23:00 < LocalHero> netrunner oki, then i might check that out. The "new" iso server is getting to slow :(.. Hehe, when i had the p133 server i could only dream of a celeron 450 mhz and now here i am asking for more :)
23:01 < netrunner> LocalHero: I missed a server on ebay yesterday. 150EUR for a 2.1GHz athlon XP, 1GB RAM. 19" rack case, 4U
23:01 < netrunner> but I decided to hunt for a 1U unit. suffices for me, and i get a better price for my friend's datacenter
23:02 < LocalHero> netrunner, hmm, nice :)
23:02 < LocalHero> netrunner, you know a cheep place to put servers on? Im looking for a place to run comercial stuff. Its banned on student network :(
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23:06 < LocalHero> got to get some sleep.. cya all
23:08 < netrunner> LocalHero: depends on what you call cheap. I can only say that server4free.de is cheap.
23:08 < netrunner> n8 LocalHero 
23:09 < LocalHero> wow, cheap, :)... Well n8
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23:14 < rxr> cool - upcomming SVN speed improvements (from the svn mailing list timing a complete subversino self-checkout):
23:14 < rxr>  
23:14 < rxr>                SVN 0.32.1         SVN 0.33 
23:14 < rxr>                ----------        ----------    
23:14 < rxr>                  4m:40s            1m:48s 
23:15 < th> must've been crappy code ;)
23:15 < th> hi rxr btw
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23:18 < netrunner> wonderful. now they make up a meeting over the weekend right on my birthday.
23:19 < rxr> th: I hope the crapy code was really meant as joke ...
23:19 < th> rxr: i mean 0.32.1 seems crappy in contrast to 0.33
23:22 < rxr> sure - but this is complex software - it requires deep analysis and testing to archive such and improvement
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23:23 < th> rxr: ack
23:23 < rxr> subversion's code quality (the pieces I looked into) looked fairly well - I can not say this about some other OSS projects (e.g. XFree, Gimp, parts of GNOME, or stuff like screen - not to forget the glibc ...)
23:25 < netrunner> hm ... Package Name and Version: subversion 0.32.1 2.0.0-rc4
23:25 < netrunner> svn --version
23:25 < netrunner> svn, version 0.26.0 (r6550)
23:25 < rxr> some parts of linux are also a bit scary - mostly low-level driver written by real hobby-ists - even some SCSI driver are really "erhm" scarry
23:26 < rxr> but I also saw assembly driver code from Taiwan people for parallel scanners - if you have seens this nothing really scares you anymore ...
23:26 < rxr> windows drivers of course
23:28 < netrunner> rxr: what will happen to the dep_db? without a working one, any build is cursed to ... have a lot of errors.
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23:32 < rxr> nope - just cluster builds
23:33 < rxr> we should stop renaming packages so often ...
23:34 < rxr> I start a new reference build now ...
23:35 < netrunner> rxr: thanks a lot. ... is that something I could do myself? I mean ... I bought this machine to compile rock, so it could also reference-build ...
23:35 < rxr> jups you can do this
23:35 < rxr> but my .cache files will get into trunk so hm ...
23:35 < rxr> but if you like to do it anyways just do it
23:35 < netrunner> so it makes no sense :/
23:36 < rxr> in the output dir in build/.... there will be a script to copy the .cache files and the scripts/Create-Dep* stuff generates the deps
23:36 < netrunner> rxr: I'll stay then with building/patching. I'll produce head-isos. and I can upload them from the varsity, when I know where to.
23:37 < netrunner> rxr: since you're the root of all rock, It makes sense when you create the dependencies. 
23:38 < rxr> will be some ~1MB patch anyway ...
23:39 < rxr> ok - me off to bed - cu
23:40 < netrunner> n8, me 2
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