--- Log opened Die Nov 18 00:00:56 2003
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04:52 < cchamilt> hi
06:06 < channelDragon> hi cchamilt 
06:10 < cchamilt> another interesting nick?
06:11 < cchamilt> damn, i can't get dri to compile with hacked up old via CLE266 support.
06:11 < cchamilt> Also, rockplug doesnt run joydev for usb gamepads.
06:11 < cchamilt> my toy is needing manual help it seems.
06:54 < channelDragon> cchamilt: sure...
06:58 < netrunner> moin
06:59 < cchamilt> hi
07:06 < channelDragon> hi netrunner 
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08:00 < daja77> ~moin
08:03 < channelDragon> moin daja77 
08:05 < daja77> hi owl
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09:11 < netrunner> hi daja77, owl
09:13 < netrunner> nice. I updated subversion. now it just coredumps. I like it.
09:13 < channelDragon> *g*
09:28 < cchamilt> why do we build agpgart into the kernel?
09:30 < cchamilt> I mean heaven forbid anyone has to rebuild a kernel, but we are forcing people with new/variant types of video plus we dont even select all the known chipsets.
09:31 < cchamilt> Do we gain anything by building it into our rather large kernel?
09:39 < daja77> netrunner: hehe had this too
09:39 < cchamilt> subversion must die.
09:41 < netrunner> daja77: solution?
09:42 < daja77> i used the subversion gems from rc2, they work
09:42 < daja77> scripts/Emerge-Pkg apache and subversion produces unusable crap
09:42 < daja77> so it is not subversions fault i think
09:47 < cchamilt> heh yeah it isnt subversions fault...
09:47 < daja77> ?
09:48 < cchamilt> just its developers and our current way of building it. but it isnt subversion's fault :)
09:50 < cchamilt> bdb is not something that should be used to store data in that cant be easily dumped in and out of (to allow for bdb updates).
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09:50 < MadTux> re
09:52 < daja77> moin MadTux 
09:52 < MadTux> moin daja77
09:52 < MadTux> daja77: where are my rc3 isos? :)
09:52 < daja77> there none
09:52 < daja77> are
09:53 < MadTux> :((((((((
09:54 < daja77> rxr said he has some isos to play with, so i will start official build when some annoying bugs (fontconfig) and stuff are fixed
09:54 < netrunner> hm. now that I recompiled svn, it works. but It says it is the version compiled yesterday. this tool is weird.
09:55 < daja77> yep I have a svn 0.32.1 too, after I installed 0.30 .gem
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09:58 < channelDragon> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/erde/0,1518,273822,00.html << oh, oh O_o
10:01 < netrunner> daja77: this is weird. I remember when I built it yesterday, I also had the old version displayed. but the binary was replaced.
10:02 < netrunner> maybe it somehow attaches to the running httpd?
10:18 < daja77> i have no idea, only thing i know is that it now works perfectly
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10:19 < daja77> moin clifford 
10:20 < MadTux> Hallo clifford
10:20 < channelDragon> hi clifford 
10:20 < channelDragon> hi MadTux ! *hug*
10:21 < MadTux> channelDragon: OMG another nick :)
10:21 < MadTux> channelDragon: *rehug*
10:22 < channelDragon> MadTux: *hrhr* yeah... couldn't decide between "channelmascot" and dragon ;p
10:22 < daja77> channelmascot is blindcoder 
10:23 < MadTux> hahaha well said daja77
10:23 < channelDragon> *g* why blindy?
10:23 < MadTux> channelDragon: good so here is the thing:
10:23 < MadTux> channelmascot = blindcoder
10:23 < MadTux> channelpuppy = daja77
10:23 < MadTux> channelDragon = owl 
10:23 < MadTux> :)
10:23 < clifford> hi all.
10:24 < cchamilt> hi clifford
10:24 < MadTux> channelmaster = clifford
10:24 < cchamilt> clifford: why do we build agpgart into the kernel?
10:24  * clifford now knows the emergency-emptying procedure for his washing machine..
10:25 < daja77> clifford: got the postcard?
10:25 < MadTux> emergency-emptying procedure?!?!
10:26 < clifford> yup - that's when the machine refuses to pump the water away on its own.
10:26 < clifford> daja77: not yet..
10:26 < daja77> hmm strange
10:27 < daja77> clifford: btw have you ported rock to that amd box you got at linuxtag?
10:27 < clifford> cchamilt: why not? it's (afaik) the kernel default on vanillia kernel.
10:28 < clifford> daja77: the soekris router? http://www.rocklinux.org/128.html
10:29 < cchamilt> because agpgart is not selecting all system types, it can be sent options on load, and as far I know it is loaded by X, etc. when needed.
10:31  * daja77 got a card for machine control with a 486 cpu on it, it says you can boot you os from flash there, so embedded rock with rt support would be my favbourite os there ;-)
10:31 < clifford> cchamilt: hmm.. could you discuss that with rene? he is far more sophisticated regarding multimedia on linux..
10:31 < cchamilt> clifford: ok.
10:39 < rxr> re
10:40 < rxr> hi clifford 
10:40 < MadTux> hello rxr
10:40 < rxr> hi all
10:43 < cchamilt> anyone wants to look at my targets, packages they are at http://www.ambigc.com/rock/mystuff/
10:44 < MadTux> <click>
10:44 < cchamilt> rxr: Why isnt agpgart a module?
10:44 < cchamilt> only a few of the acc targets are tested.
10:45 < cchamilt> pvr and svr went through a complete build and test
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10:48 < cchamilt> oh openca is the only package not building, lirc and a few others build - but not correctly.
10:50 < cchamilt> openca, samhain, and cvs-etc are broken. lirc is not building everythin and sks may be.
10:54 < MadTux> daja77: glibc23 fails to install with ur isos..
10:56 < MadTux> cchamilt: btw if i was you i would take care of some of your [M] flags on the .spec files of your repository ;-)
10:57 < MadTux> daja77: gnome-print10 also fail to install with your isos... this sux..
10:58 < rxr> cchamilt: the AGP stuff was complete kernel default
10:58 < rxr> I now added the two missing AGP bridge support options to the x86 config ...
10:58 < MadTux> rxr: have you got rc2 o rc3 isos for me?
10:59 < rxr> nope - not yet fully tested
10:59 < rxr> but the generic rc2 is ok
10:59 < rxr> I guess CD error 
10:59 < MadTux> rxr: mm...
10:59 < MadTux> if you like i can test ur new isos..
11:00 < MadTux> rxr: i need something to install a rock system anyways
11:01 < rxr> daja installed it at least two times - and I have a success report in my mailbox
11:01 < rxr> so the ISO seems to be fine
11:01 < MadTux> rxr: okis.. reburning
11:01 < MadTux> rxr: still i can test ur isos if you want
11:02 < cchamilt> rxr: OK, but I have a special situation for agpgart, and I think it might be seen other times.  I have to send agpgart the try_unsupported=1 option to get the via nehemiah board to work.
11:03 < cchamilt> rxr: I just think it would be easier to mess with as a module, and not sure why the kernel needs it built in.
11:09 < rxr> you should patch the kernel to add the pciid if the module works correctly - and send it to linux-kernel ...
11:11 < cchamilt> well it is an alan cox involved solution, so...
11:11 < rxr> so - now it is modular
11:12 < rxr> but you always can add a tiny kernel config to your target that tunes the kernel in the way you need it ...
11:13 < cchamilt> yeah, but it is something I can everyone can use.  If you dont think so, then I may,  I am not very convinced the via system is best yet.
11:20 < cchamilt> oh yeah, another whiny reason: nvidia binaries may use it, but can use their own agpgart.  I remember some systems werent so compatible with agpgart and nvidia a couple years back.
11:23 < daja77> MadTux: pleas check the md5sums of the isos before burning, to avoid download errors
11:23 < daja77> please
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11:39 < MadTux> daja77: i did...
11:41 < cchamilt> oh rxr: rockplug needs to load joydev for usb joysticks.
11:43 < cchamilt> rxr: I bought one for $12 last night to try out on mame.  Seems to work minus joydev not loading.
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11:50 < cchamilt> hi blindcoder
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12:32 < th> OT: anyone knows how to create a bootable 2880k dos-floppy?
12:35 < daja77> which os?
12:35 < th> linux
12:35 < th> or even win98,w2k or wxp
12:35 < th> but i have no hardware drive capable of 2880k floppies
12:36 < daja77> like any other bootdisk
12:36 < daja77> use a loop device
12:36 < th> daja77: the looping part is not the problem
12:36 < th> the problem is making the image/blockdevice bootable
12:36 < th> even creating the fs is no problem
12:36 < th> i use mformat -C -f 28800 x:  to create the image
12:37 < daja77> well put a kernel on that disk and install lilo there
12:37 < th> a kernel?
12:37 < th> aehm
12:37 < th> stop
12:37 < th> 12:33 < daja77> which os?
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12:37 < th> i missunderstood that question
12:37 < th> i do NOT want to boot a linux
12:37 < th> i want to boot a DOS
12:38 < th> i could use "sys c:" in win98 if i'd a 2.8mb floppy drive
12:38 < daja77> for that you only have to copy io.sys and highmem.sys to the disk and set the bootable flag
12:38 < daja77> guess mtools can do that
12:38 < th> the bootable flag...
12:39 < cchamilt> if you have no 2.88 drive, why do you need it?
12:40 < SMP> th: download freedos image
12:40 < th> cchamilt: for fd-emu on iso for example
12:40 < th> SMP: are there 2.8MB images available?
12:40 < th> SMP: i searched for it
12:40 < cchamilt> there is a dos iso maker.
12:40 < cchamilt> multicd or something like that.
12:40 < SMP> th: straight bootable ISOs
12:41 < cchamilt> It loads into dos and puts what you want into ramdisk.  it works, but is flaky.
12:41 < daja77> th: use C flag of mformat to do this
12:41 < daja77> C      creates the disk image file to install the MS-DOS filesystem  on
12:41 < daja77>               it. Obviously, this is useless on physical devices such as flop-
12:41 < cchamilt> I used it on my laptop as it is either floppy or cdrom and I needed to de-regionize the cd.
12:41 < daja77>               pies and hard disk partitions,  but  is  interesting  for  image
12:41 < daja77>               files.
12:41 < th> SMP: 10MB is a bit too big hmm
12:42 < daja77> d'oh i should learn to read
12:42 < daja77> stop
12:42 < th> SMP: but perhaps i can extract the 2880k fd image
12:42 < th> daja77: i read that too
12:42 < th> daja77: and i told you i used the -C already
12:43 < daja77> yep i missed that
12:43 < th> the bootable flag. hmm i think that's for partitons only, hmm?
12:44 < daja77> hmm maybe fdisk can do it
12:45 < th> partitioning a  floppy disk?
12:45 < th> hmm
12:46 < th> ouhm. i can't loop-mount that 10MB freedos iso
12:46 < th> mount: Not a directory
12:47 < th> strange
12:49 < daja77> even when using -o loop ?
12:50 < th> there must be something wrong with the .iso
12:50 < th> daja77: yes of course i don't mount .iso files without -o loop
12:51 < th> ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
12:51 < th> init_special_inode: bogus imode (30555)
12:51 < daja77> erhm /me does
12:52 < daja77> agin i can't read today *gnarf*
13:02 < channelDragon> *explode*
13:03 < rxr> re
13:03 < channelDragon> wb rxr 
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14:51 < rxr> oh jsaw foods me with packages ...
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15:42 < rxr> hi daja77 
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16:04 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-reference-expert:
16:04 < rxr>  [5]   3 base/sendmail                   [5]   0 rene/ffmpeg
16:04 < rxr>  [5]   0 tsa/metamail                    [5]  46 gnome14/libglade10
16:04 < rxr> 2068 builds total, 414 completed fine, 4 with errors.
16:10 < cytrinox> moin
16:11 < rxr> moin
16:14 < netrunner> nice try: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
16:18 < rxr> why try?
16:18 < rxr> hm - 20kB looks rather small
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16:22 < netrunner> rxr: I mean, the idea to try it this way is nice.
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16:27 < rxr> linuxant done this (commercially) before
16:27 < rxr> but doing this OpenSource is indeed nice
16:31  * netrunner feels bored and goes home.
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16:56 < rxr> omg, www.rocklinux-consulting.de has now already more traffic then in the wohle last month ....
16:56 < rxr> 569 vs. 554 MB ...
17:01 < blindcoder> wtf are you doing there? hosting a BitTorrent tracker?
17:01 < rxr> nope - most traffic is the handbook
17:01 < blindcoder> hrm
17:01 < rxr> 3127 different IPs so far this months ...
17:02  * daja77 back from shopping
17:02  * blindcoder doing japanese homework
17:02 < clifford> rxr: css on www.rocklinux-consulting.de:
17:02 < clifford> -  font-family: Sans, Helvetica, Arial;
17:03 < clifford> +  font-family: Helvetica, Arial;
17:03 < rxr> clifford: why ?
17:04 < clifford> because i don't want to read the page in an arabic font.
17:04 < rxr> huh ?
17:05 < rxr> which browser and OS ?
17:07 < clifford> konqueror on debian sid
17:07 < rxr> hm - what is your setting in:
17:08 < rxr> Setting -> Configure Konqueror -> Font -> Sans serif font
17:08 < rxr> ?
17:08 < rxr> hm - or standard font
17:08 < clifford> rxr: "sans" != "sans-serif"
17:09 < rxr> I know - but this was the closest math
17:10 < clifford> math?
17:10 < rxr> match even - so I thought standard font might be the value used
17:10 < rxr> but it isn't I just changed all of these settings and the site renders the same
17:11 < clifford> no - it uses a font called "sans", if such a font is installed on the system.
17:16 < rxr> hm - to bad a generic name "sans" really does not seem to be defined in the standard ...
17:17 < rxr> on ROCK Linux the standard configuration as shipped with XFree86 translates sans to sans-serif ...
17:19 < rxr> clifford: does it look better now ?
17:20 < clifford> no - but now I can read the text.   ;-)
17:21 < rxr> clifford: another question - does your http logs list the reffering site? I have an increased (factor 4-5) traffic on www.rocklinux-consulting.de all comming from the www.rocklinux.org/handbook.html side - it would be nice to know if we are in some news again ...
17:21 < rxr> clifford: it does not look better now? What is the problem now?
17:23 < clifford> well - imo the arabic font actually looked better - but it is much easier for me to read the latin font. ;-)
17:23 < daja77> lol
17:24  * clifford now adding logging to the "new" rocklinux webpage.
17:24 < mnemoc> new rocklinux webpage?
17:24 < daja77> rock linux page in arabic would rock
17:24 < rxr> daja77: go for it ....
17:26 < daja77> you don't know my todo ;-)
17:29 < mnemoc> http://www.sendthemback.org/ <-- o_O
17:31 < daja77> hehe
17:32 < rxr> why should I send the laptop-ified version of my CDs to them 
17:32 < rxr> and do they really want to get a 2GB mail ?
17:33 < daja77> hehe you should ask your provider ^^
17:36 < mnemoc> btw, how is the patents' sth going?
17:43 < rxr> patents in europe?
17:45 < mnemoc> sw patents in europe
17:51  * netrunner searching for outlook on his disk ...
17:53 < netrunner> du -sm /space/mp3 : 40285   /space/mp3
17:53 < netrunner> my memory can't hold so many, unable to prepare email ;)
17:54 < clifford> Q: What's you favorite www log analyser ?
17:54  * netrunner -> emergency (bring a power cable to a friends)
17:54 < blindcoder> A: webalizer
17:54 < netrunner> clifford: webalizer
17:54 < blindcoder> although webalizer is a PITA to compile with DNS-lookup
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17:56 < clifford> blindcoder: default = without DNS-lookup ?
17:56 < blindcoder> clifford: correct
17:57 < blindcoder> clifford: on no system which I have tried have I been able to let webalizer's configure find the bdb V1.85 compatible header files
17:57 < blindcoder> clifford: I usually edited the Makefile by hand
18:04 < rxr> clifford: mine is awstats ...
18:04 < rxr> (perl)
18:26 < clifford> hmm.. is there a way to get the current's page referer in java script?
18:27 < mnemoc> document.referer i think
18:27  * blindcoder gone
18:28 < clifford> mnemoc: ah. thanks. I've only looked in location and history ..
18:29 < mnemoc> :\np
18:29 < mnemoc> s/:\\//
18:32 < rxr> clifford: what are you doing now? This info can easily be looged by apache ...
18:32 < rxr> javescript-less ...
18:32 < clifford> rxr: If I use the apache log I don't have the logs from the mirrors and don't have cached pages.
18:33 < clifford> I'm just adapting my usual javascript-logging tool to also log stuff like referer..
18:36 < clifford> oups! found a potentional buffer-overflow exploit in my logger app...  ;-)
18:38 < mnemoc> clifford: btee is stack attacked by rc :) { ... } 2>&1 | btee a init.msg
18:42 < esden> hi all
18:42 < mnemoc> hi esden
18:42 < rxr> oh! hi esden 
18:43 < esden> hi mnemoc,rxr 
18:43 < esden> rxr: you seem surprised ;)
18:43 < daja77> hi esden!
18:43 < esden> hi daja77 
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18:43 < MadTux> re
18:43 < daja77> wb MadTux 
18:43 < esden> but I think I need some nicotine now ... cu in a moment
18:44 < MadTux> thanks a lot daja77
18:44 < mnemoc> hi Micky
18:44 < MadTux> hi mnemocy
18:49 < mnemoc> *hungry*
18:49 < MadTux> eat daja77 ..
18:49 < daja77> you could eat a mad tux
18:49 < mnemoc> tux grille :)
18:50 < daja77> yep, micky bbq
18:50  * daja77 runs
18:50  * MadTux stares at mnemoc's hands .. move them or loose them
18:50 < mnemoc> :o
18:50  * MadTux shoiots daja77
18:50 < daja77> you what
18:51 < mnemoc> lol
18:51 < MadTux> shoots :)
18:51 < MadTux> argg i'm so fscking tired
18:52 < daja77> you missed me I am too fast for you :p
18:52 < MadTux> daja77: no you aren't
18:52 < MadTux> even if haven't sleep in days i can beat your slow fat ass 
18:52 < MadTux> :)
18:52 < daja77> so catch me :p
18:52 < MadTux> also yours mnemoc :P
18:53 < mnemoc> turbo-daja beats everyone :)
18:53 < MadTux> mnemoc: dajaXP :)
18:53 < daja77> MadTux: so you like to beat male asses, is there sth we should know about you?
18:53 < mnemoc> rotfl
18:54 < MadTux> daja77: you little bastard
18:54 < daja77> ;-)
18:54  * MadTux grabs his sword
18:54  * daja77 grabs blindy's sword
18:54 < MadTux> what wereu saying?
18:54 < daja77> i was just wondering ...
18:55 < MadTux> that sword is only usefull on bc hands
18:55 < daja77> says who :p
18:55 < MadTux> daja77: lets see.. i got a gf, i'm engaed.. hate gays.. is that enough?
18:55 < mnemoc> fight fight fight
18:55 < MadTux> mnemoc: you want to see blood?
18:56 < daja77> MadTux: mnemoc wants us to fight anyway
18:56 < MadTux> daja77: lets give him some blood
18:56 < mnemoc> MadTux: supress is better than repress, don't hide your true feelings
18:56 < daja77> hehe
18:56 < mnemoc> bloooood
18:56  * MadTux walks towards mnemoc with his sword ready to attack
18:56 < mnemoc> ehmmm
18:57 < MadTux> daja77: now cut his heat off!
18:57 < MadTux> :)
18:57 < daja77> nah
18:57  * mnemoc his RoastedTux in the balls and run
18:57 < mnemoc> :)
18:57 < MadTux> daja77: traitor!
18:58 < daja77> :p
18:59 < mnemoc> i think i'll go to eat some newborn kids before my test
18:59 < MadTux> hehe
18:59  * MadTux is hungry too
18:59 < esden> re
18:59 < MadTux> mnemoc: enjoy ur meal
18:59 < MadTux> esdy!
18:59 < esden> food .. good food ;)
18:59 < mnemoc> thanks :)
18:59 < mnemoc> cu *
18:59 < esden> huhu MadTux 
18:59 < esden> cu mnemoc 
18:59 < daja77> damn esden joins when fight is over
19:00 < esden> hrm
19:00  * esden has nothing to say ;)
19:00  * esden has no voice ;)
19:00 < MadTux> daja77: iyts never late for a fight
19:00 < daja77> ts why you left your voice at university
19:00 < clifford> <mnemoc> clifford: btee is stack attacked by rc :) { ... } 2>&1 | btee a init.msg
19:00 < MadTux> esden: mnemoc and daja77 said that they can beat you on a sword challenge
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19:01 < clifford> mnemoc: btee's buffer is not on the stack.
19:02 < mnemoc> clifford: at least it screams a lot :)
19:02  * esden reading backlog : [18:49] * MadTux stares at mnemoc's hands .. move them or loose them
19:03 < clifford> mnemoc: "Buffer is full -> drop data!" ?
19:03 < esden> MadTux: you should say it like trinity: "Touch me and this hands will never touch anything else" ;)
19:03 < MadTux> esden: well said
19:03 < mnemoc> clifford: what about buffering to a tmpfs instead of char[BUFFER]?
19:04 < mnemoc> have to go.. :(
19:05 < mnemoc> ^ADD
19:12 < daja77> esden: trinity looks much better ;-)
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19:23 < esden> daja77: that may be true ;)
19:23 < rxr> hm - I managed to "loose" my tee cup during coding
19:23 < rxr> damn
19:24 < rxr> tea even
19:25 < rxr> damn - how can a cup hide that well
19:29 < daja77> behind the laptop?
19:30 < esden> rxr: perhups you should clean up the mess around you and then you will find the tea cup for sure
19:31 < rxr> esden: great idea - beside it it not that messy - and I already looked arround five times or so .. :-(
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19:54 < A-Tui> hi all
19:55 < daja77> hola A-Tui 
19:55 < A-Tui> hola daja77
19:55 < A-Tui> this evening i install my rock2.0 build :)
19:56 < A-Tui> this xchat is running on it
20:00 < rxr> A-Tui: congratulations
20:00 < daja77> yep have fun with it
20:00  * daja77 now off
20:00 < A-Tui> i have a very strange error with fotnconf
20:01 < A-Tui> my build adds a "--" to the log, and then it was added to the fontconf's XML so it can't validate
20:02 < rxr> A-Tui: is this in the date? because you had not set a timezone?
20:03 < A-Tui> rxr, i don't now :)
20:03 < A-Tui> i supposed that this was done when i was building
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20:11 < johnjj> hi, does anybody know about libgtkhtml-3.0 which is needed by evolution 1.4.5 ? - the package only supports libgtkhtml-2.0 
20:12 < johnjj> sorry - the version was 2.4
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20:20 < johnjj> yes
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20:20 < johnjj> else, would i ask here ?
20:20 < MadTux> re all
20:21 < rxr> we had people asking for rh or so here ...
20:21 < A-Tui> hi newly
20:21 < rxr> johnjj: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libgtkhtml/
20:21 < rxr> just has 2.4 - where do you see or need s.th. like 3.0 ?
20:22 < MadTux> Aitor newly?
20:22 < johnjj> evolution asks for it - sorry 
20:22 < A-Tui> MadTux: sorry, again
20:22 < johnjj> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
20:22 < johnjj> -> Preparing build in src.evolution.1069183292.32351.2982398137
20:22 < johnjj> -> Creating backup of old package data.
20:22 < johnjj> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-evolution.out
20:22 < johnjj> !> checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
20:22 < johnjj> !> checking for libgtkhtml-3.0... Package libgtkhtml-3.0 wa ..
20:22 < johnjj> !> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgtkh ..
20:22 < johnjj> !> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
20:22 < MadTux> A-Tui: sorry for?
20:22 < johnjj> !> No package 'libgtkhtml-3.0' found
20:22 < johnjj> !> configure: error: Library requirements (libgtkhtml-3.0)  ..
20:22 < johnjj> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-evolution.out -> 9-evolution.err
20:22 < A-Tui> i did a literal spanish translate
20:23 < iBook> hi all
20:23 < iBook> hi rxr
20:23 < MadTux> mm.. have no clue of what ua re talking about
20:23 < rxr> hi iBook 
20:23 < MadTux> hi martin
20:23 < A-Tui> MadTux: i want to say "hi again"
20:23 < A-Tui> only that :)
20:24 < MadTux> A-Tui: shame on you :P
20:24 < rxr> johnjj: hm - could you mail our gnome maintainer Juergen Sawinski <george@sun0.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de> and ask about this?
20:25 < iBook> rxr: I'll install Win**** on my Desktop PC. So I must install grub new: Booting dROCK 1.6 CD1 and start "Install", or is there a better way?
20:26 < MadTux> rxr: ho are package updates been handled currently? still taking update patches or have the procedure changed?
20:26 < rxr> MadTux: still take them - if tested and they do not break stuff
20:26 < rxr> iBook: why not just run in in vmware ...
20:26 < MadTux> rxr: good. thanks
20:27 < rxr> iBook: just take a bootdisk with grub and run:
20:27 < johnjj> rxr: i found the error - there are 2 packages ! libgtkhtml and gtkhmtl - last one is version 3.0.8 as on my crux-system
20:27 < iBook> rxr: I have no bootdisk ...
20:27 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse15.html#x26-640007.2.3
20:28 < johnjj> rxr: so maybe someone has to fix the packagename 
20:28 < rxr> iBook: then read first:
20:28 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse15.html#x26-640007.2.2
20:28 < rxr> johnjj: ah ok
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20:38 < rxr> iBook: does this help
20:39 < rxr> johnjj: I think the names will stay shit way - they are the official names used by the gnome people#
20:44 < johnjj> rxr: i saw it - its really dirty 
20:46 < rxr> s/shit/this/ - sorry
20:53 < johnjj> ccc is this year somewhere else ? 
20:53 < rxr> johnjj: yes
20:54 < rxr> /etc/permissions.local
20:54 < iBook> rxr: ups, I start the bootdisk and become a "stage2Geom" error :-(
20:54 < rxr> chkstat -set /etc/permissions.local
20:54 < rxr> argh?!?!? Are those SuSE freaks on drugs or what
20:54 < rxr> if someone read www.heise.de - WE DO NOT HAVE THIS FLAW ...
20:55 < rxr> oeh?
20:55 < rxr> yould you try on another PC?
20:55 < rxr> I bet disk is dead
20:56 < iBook> rxr: hmm?
20:57 < rxr> defect - bad sectors ...
20:58 < rxr> fdformat /dev/floppy/0u1440 or so
21:04 < rxr> Apple spendiert iMac einen 20-Zoll-Bildschirm
21:04 < rxr> cool - might make a nice X terminal for my desk
21:04 < rxr> urgh - nvidia graphic chip - :-(
21:11 < rxr> the heise forum stuff sucks - no preview and no reedit ...
21:12 < iBook> Frontal21 - Maut - *lol*
21:12 < iBook> zdf
21:12 < rxr> and it seems no html code inside a reply
21:16 < iBook> rxr: grub-bootdisk sucks :-(
21:23 < rxr> why - ever worked for me ...
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21:30 < iBook> "stage2Geom Error" - but the disk is not defect.
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22:00 < iBook> cu all
22:00 < rxr> cu martin
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22:11 < rxr> X sucks so much
22:20 < esden> hrm ... ... somehow security issues are not written very big in svn ... *sigh*
22:20  * esden continues reading the svn book
22:21 < esden> perhups I find something usefull ... otherwise I will have to fight with hookscripts
22:24 < esden> lool 
22:24  * esden got mail from sun because of my requested sponsoring for rocklinux
22:25 < esden> "we do not sponsor anyone besides McLaren Mercedes" <-- THEY DO NOT NEED SPONSORING!!!
22:26 < esden> they are pushing the money in the ases of the rich ... that is the real equity in this world
22:26 < esden> *sigh*
22:29 < rxr> esden: mail from?
22:29 < esden> from sun microsystems
22:30 < rxr> ah
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23:09 < link_>  ich such immer noch nen FUNKTIONIERENDEN no-cd crack fuer warcraft3 RoC v1.12 - bitte erhoert mich, ihr crack goetter ( und ja, ich hab das spiel gekauft - auf linux laeufts halt einfach nicht ohne no-cd crack )
23:12 < rxr> link_: this channel is LANG=en
23:13 < rxr> link_: this cahnnel about Windows - or other commercial software - especially not cracks ...
23:13 < link_> sorry, i didn't know, that /amsg send to all irc servers i have open =)
23:15 < link_> rxr, i have bought the game.. i try to play games under linux, so i have to search a no-cd crack .. if i bought the game, i can crack it whenever i want, if i don't break any rules..
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23:23 < rxr> link_: depends on the country you are in
23:24 < link_> maybe.. but i find it unright, to let play games all windows users, and linux users are just crap to the programmers
23:24 < link_> =(
23:25 < rxr> in many countries reverse engineer or simply modifing whatever digital maybe be prohibited
23:25 < rxr> link_: this is also not my opinion
23:25 < rxr> link_: it is just the law as it is in some countries
23:26 < link_> yeah ..
23:26 < rxr> I also modified my original GP3 to run in Wine:
23:26 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/gp3/gallery.html
23:26 < rxr> but this channel is just not about cracks ...
23:27 < link_> i see your point rxr =)
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23:30 < rxr> of course when one paid for a product it should be the customers free decision what to do with the product - burning it (because it sucked so much) or modifying (because the table was too high) should be the same - with, of course, the coping it 1:1 in digital form for others does not work out - but all the rest should be allowed
23:40 < rxr> n8 all
23:40 < rxr> cu
23:50 < MadTux> gute nacht rxr
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