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01:32 < rxr> re
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01:44 < rxr> hi Nebukadneza2
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01:54 < rxr> cu later
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02:27 < cchamilt> hi all
02:27 < cchamilt> I think I have a new bug found due to the lib->usr/lib
02:28 < cchamilt> kdeadmin is failing for me because libmisc.la is not being found in /lib as it was moved to /usr/lib with the .a's
02:29 < cchamilt> So it looks like links from usr/lib to lib might be the only sensible solution for things like this.
02:30 < cchamilt> Of course this is considering that we want ROCK systems to easily compile software in general not just rock packages.
02:30 < SMP> these "static libs in /lib or not" problems are completely ridiculous
02:31 < SMP> noone else is stupid enough to even think about static libs in /lib
02:32 < cchamilt> It should have NEVER been put in stable, much less checked into a development tree until it was proven painless. IT IS HARDLY NECESSARY.
02:32 < SMP> I bet kdeadmin fails because we have a patch that forces it tu use /lib/libmisc.a
02:32 < cchamilt> FHS is not a requirement, it is a suggestion.
02:32 < cchamilt> heh
02:33 < cchamilt> yes, i think we are definitely violating kiss policy and rule of least surprises.
02:33 < cchamilt> no kdeadmin patch.
02:33 < SMP> can I see the .err ?
02:36 < cchamilt> The .err was cleaned by my recompiling.
02:36 < cchamilt> I cp'ed the .la cause I am not about to 'fix' this problem while working on other stuff.
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03:18 < cchamilt> oh wait smp
03:18 < cchamilt> what does your /usr/lib/libshadow.la say for dependency_libs ?
03:19 < SMP> my system is too old, I have libshadow.la still in /lib
03:20 < cchamilt> dependency_libs=' -lcrypt /usr/lib/libmisc.la -lcrack'
03:20 < cchamilt> excuse me that is the fix
03:20 < SMP> looks reasonable
03:21 < cchamilt> dependency_libs=' -lcrypt /lib/libmisc.la -lcrack'
03:21 < cchamilt> is what was there
03:21 < cchamilt> libdir='/usr/lib'
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03:22 < SMP> cchamilt: rev 1582:  rene | 2003-10-02 00:38:58 +0200 (Thu, 02 Oct 2003) | 6 lines
03:22 < SMP> reverted (hopefully all) lib/*.{a.la} - > usr/lib/ changes and replaced
03:22 < cchamilt> We need global sed's to fix this.
03:22 < SMP> the code with a post-flist solution which works more package independet
03:22 < SMP> and allows the adaption of the .la files
03:23 < SMP> ahhha
03:23 < cchamilt> sed "s,^libdir='\(.*\)',libdir='/usr\1'," \
03:23 < cchamilt>                                 $root/$fn > $root/usr/$fn
03:23 < cchamilt> is not enough.
03:23 < SMP> right
03:24 < cchamilt> god, i hope a change like this isnt dangerous.  Do we actually understand .la enough to be so broad?
03:25 < SMP> this whole moving around and sed-fixing things is so utterly broken :-(((
03:25 < cchamilt> 'not well thought out' would be the nicest best undestatement.
03:27 < cchamilt> Lets see, send a patch with a more complex sed.  Or a patch yanking this shit out....
03:28 < SMP> just complain your cause on the list please
03:28 < cchamilt> this is dumb dumb dumb and shameful. If ROCK has EVER been stable I would be thoruougly be pissed at this.
03:28 < cchamilt> but you are a captive audience.
03:31 < cchamilt> sed "s,[^usr]/lib/\(.*\),/usr/lib/\1," \
03:31 < cchamilt>                                 $root/$fn > $root/usr/$fn
03:31 < cchamilt> ?
03:32 < cchamilt> would /opt/'s get in there though.
03:32 < SMP> uhh-uh, no
03:32 < cchamilt> nothing in /usr would statically link to say /opt/mysql?
03:33 < SMP> would be wrong to assume
03:34 < cchamilt> is [^\w} correct enough?
03:34  * cchamilt getting sed book
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03:36 < SMP> no, you want to catch two cases: ' /lib/' => ' /usr/lib/' and '=/lib/' => '=/usr/lib/'
03:36 < cchamilt> "s,([^{:alnum:]])/lib/\(.*\),\1/usr/lib/\1,"
03:37 < SMP> so I'd use [=\w]
03:37 < cchamilt> "s,([^=|{:alnum:]])/lib/\(.*\),\1/usr/lib/\1,"
03:37 < cchamilt> "s,([^=[[:alnum:]])/lib/\(.*\),\1/usr/lib/\1,"
03:37 < SMP> no
03:37 < SMP> you do want the = case
03:38 < SMP> so ^= is wrong
03:38 < cchamilt> so "s,([^[:alnum:]])/lib/\(.*\),\1/usr/lib/\1," is exclusive
03:39 < cchamilt> ie no words/letters/numbers before /lib
03:39 < SMP> I still think it would be better to use [=\w]
03:39 < cchamilt> that way = '  " etc. work
03:41 < cchamilt> but that is equals and word containing characters (and not a sed define I think)
03:42 < cchamilt> basically [^{:alnum:]] assumes spaces and puncuation is OK, but 0-9A-Za-z means that the /lib is a subdirectory
03:43 < cchamilt> so we skip subdirectory /lib
03:46 < cchamilt> I will go with "s,([^[:alnum:]])/lib/\(.*\),\1/usr/lib/\2,g" if you agree.
03:47 < cchamilt> of course with more \ 's
03:47 < SMP> looks reasonable
03:47 < cchamilt> it is more important to bitch about it than fix it i think.
03:47 < SMP> definitely! ;->
04:15 < cchamilt> The mail is on the way....
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07:03 < Baldzius> morning
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08:18 < scythe_> hiŻ
08:18 < scythe_> i mean hi
08:19 < SMP> hi scythe
08:22 < scythe_> aru u using "find" as flist method when doing a build? Because i have problems with shared files at step 2 nearly always...
08:24 < SMP> I don't think anyone has used that method since flist wrapper was introduced about three years ago. it is not well tested anymore
08:24 < scythe_> i see. but flwrepper is buggy on s390 / probably because of an old libc
08:25 < SMP> and strace-based is too slow?
08:25 < scythe_> correct
08:26 < scythe_> btw: the bug with the ls was because of flwrapper, if i just added flwrapper to LD_PRECONFIG and issued an ls it produced the same in a single shell
08:27 < SMP> gah
08:28 < scythe_> suggestions? change libc on the build sys?
08:29 < SMP> can you try debugging into the flist wrapper lib?
08:31 < scythe_> i can, and i have already did an strace... ls does a sigsuspend, and never wakes up...
08:33 < SMP> well, does that happen in the fl_wrapper.so or the libc function called from there? and in which and at what source code line (for the flist wrapper case)
08:33 < SMP> which function, I mean
08:34 < scythe_> will find out, but at first i will recompile libc (who knows, maybe it is really a libc bug :-)))
08:35 < SMP> if ls does not work, does LD_PRELOAD=fl_wrapper.so sh -c 'echo /*' ?
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08:53 < scythe_> (SMP: im doing it with a new svn, this may take a while)
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10:02 < rxr> re
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10:36 < netrunner> moin
10:39 < rxr> moin netrunner 
10:39 < rxr> and cu ...
10:40 < netrunner> cu :)
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10:58 < blindcoder> moin
11:00 < netrunner> hi blindcoder 
11:00  * netrunner forgot again to boot his build server before leaving from home 
11:01 < netrunner> now subversion fix has to wait.
11:02 < netrunner> rxr: maybe you read this: pls upgrade neon to 0.24.4 (iirc), it builds fine and enables subversion to build it's webdav support which otherwise get's disabled without throwing an error.
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11:39 < daja77> moin
11:39 < daja77> O_o
11:41 < rxr> re
11:41 < rxr> netrunner: oh! - Thanks
11:41 < rxr> moin daja77 
11:41 < netrunner> hi daja77 
11:43 < daja77> moin rxr & netrunner 
11:43 < blindcoder> moin moin daja77 
11:43 < esden> good morning everyone
11:43 < esden> or better good day ... or so
11:43 < esden> fscking debian servers ... >_<
11:44 < esden> I want rock on my laptop! *weep*
11:44 < daja77> hi esden +grin*
11:44 < esden> when I have rock I at least know who to kick if something is not working 
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11:45 < netrunner> esden: I am (again) working on our report for rnp. when do you think you can contribute something?
11:45 < blindcoder> GNARF
11:45 < blindcoder> esden? esden is here? WEEEE
11:46  * blindcoder hugs esden
11:46 < rxr> netrunner: done
11:47 < esden> netrunner: yes I will contribute!
11:47 < daja77> maybe it is just a fading copy of esden which is here ...
11:47 < esden> but first I have to resolve some biological problems ...
11:48 < esden> daja77: yes only a bot
11:48 < daja77> like eating?
11:48 < esden> daja77: good guess ... and some other things
11:48 < esden> ok ... I am off ... cu guys
11:48 < daja77> cu esden 
11:49 < esden> ahh netrunner you know that you have a meeting at 12:00?
11:51 < netrunner> esden: you are outdated. it will (eventually) take place at 1230
11:51 < netrunner> esden: I have a deal for you: I do the ip report, and you and the other guy do the other 2 reports 
11:51  * daja77 trying to update esden 
11:52 < netrunner> daja77: hopeless ;)
11:52  * netrunner uploads esden some pr0n ;)
11:54 < daja77> hmm using esden as pr0n streaming server ...
11:56 < blindcoder> biological problems... that's one way to say it
11:57 < daja77> how would you name it
11:57 < blindcoder> well... let's put it this way:
11:58 < blindcoder> I spent the night at ~esden, and if he doesn't get rid of his "biological problems" they will just develop feet and walk away
11:59 < daja77> lol
12:01 < netrunner> hm ... esden solving bio probs together with blindcoder?
12:01 < netrunner> what about that blonde girl from austria? ;)
12:02 < blindcoder> she's from Berlin IIRC and long forgotten
12:02 < netrunner> fightened him so bad that esden now has a crush on blindcoder? *g*
12:02  * blindcoder blushes
12:03 < netrunner> hm ... http://www.fcg-hanau.de/Mit_Gott_erlebt/Silke_Singrin/silke_singrin.html
12:03 < netrunner> blindcoder: aha, a sign of truth! 
12:04  * daja77 will call his biological problem in half an hour or so i guess
12:05 < daja77> rotfl @ netrunner 
12:05 < blindcoder> netrunner: it.. it... it was just your imagination!
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12:05 < blindcoder> netrunner: really! there is nothing between esden and me!
12:05 < netrunner> blindcoder: says you.
12:05 < blindcoder> I love only you!
12:06 < blindcoder> Please! Believe me!
12:06  * netrunner freezes
12:06 < daja77> hehe the camera hasn't been rescued from pain while photographing her
12:06 < netrunner> daja77: ;)
12:08 < blindcoder> I wonder how netti found that page...
12:08 < daja77> he wants to be rescued too
12:08 < blindcoder> OTOH, I don't want to know
12:13 < netrunner> blindcoder: was postet on $otherchannel
12:13 < daja77> that's what they all say
12:14  * clifford is looking for people in munich...
12:16  * blindcoder is currently in munich
12:16  * esden too
12:16  * netrunner is north of munich (gar)
12:16 < netrunner> clifford: can you see that far? ;)
12:17 < clifford> I'll help Jochen Schweizer (bungee jumping agency) to relocate their office in munich from 12. december to 14. december and need a place to stay..
12:17 < clifford> netrunner: the world isn't flat - think about it.   *g*
12:17  * blindcoder recommends ~esden, but only with bio-protection-suit :)
12:18 < esden> blindcoder: >_<
12:18 < daja77> maybe the problems can ber resolved ^^
12:18 < clifford> daja77: napalm?
12:18 < blindcoder> yes, if they start walking away :)
12:18 < esden> THEY CAN AND WILL BE IN THE NEXT 24H!
12:18 < blindcoder> esden: good boy
12:18 < esden> blindcoder: DIE!
12:18  * blindcoder pats esden
12:19  * blindcoder dies
12:19 < esden> GRR
12:19  * daja77 points and laughs at esden 
12:19 < clifford> HA-HA !   ;-)
12:19 < esden> clifford: I think netrunner has more living space then /me ... but you can stay at my place if you want ...
12:20 < esden> but it will be bit sqiezy
12:20 < esden> squeezy
12:20 < daja77> but esden seems to like bein visited by man ...
12:21  * blindcoder whistles innocently
12:21 < esden> argl!
12:22 < netrunner> esden: have you ever visited me?
12:22 < netrunner> clifford: guess it's ok with me, but have to check with my gf.
12:22 < esden> netrunner: nope ... but I suppose that you have better living conditions ;)
12:22 < clifford> netrunner: ok. would be great.
12:22 < netrunner> esden: only because I have some female touch that cares about the order of things ;)
12:22 < esden> netrunner: it is not very difficult to have better living conditions than me ;)
12:23 < esden> *sigh* ...
12:23 < esden> this channel is mean to me *weep*
12:23 < daja77> i knew that netrunner has a female touch when i first saw him
12:23 < netrunner> esden: true
12:23  * netrunner purrs at daja77 
12:24 < daja77> esden: if you show up more often we wouldn't be that mean ^^
12:24 < esden> yes ... I know
12:25 < netrunner> daja77: he is to busy solving his biological problems ... 
12:25 < netrunner> esden: need some more hankies? ;)
12:26  * daja77 wondering about the solution
12:26 < blindcoder> oh, a bathtub filled with sulfur- or sulfuric acid should suffice to (dis)solve any biological problem :)
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12:26 < netrunner> daja77: she's called michaela schaffrath
12:26 < daja77> and?
12:26 < netrunner> daja77: you obviously do not know her 
12:27 < clifford> ok - so maybe we make a ROCK Linux event at that weekend?
12:27 < esden> ok ... I go smoking a really thick cigarette
12:27 < blindcoder> clifford: sounds nice. We should find ourselves a nice pub for it :)
12:28 < clifford> yup.  ;-)
12:28 < daja77> netrunner: nope and btw i was not interested in such details ;-)
12:28 < blindcoder> okay, /me now having lunch and taking a break from Red Crap Kickstart >_<
12:29 < netrunner> clifford: I have some space, but need to make that clear with the other people in the house.
12:29  * netrunner will inform the rlml tomorrow about the state
12:29 < daja77> netrunner is evil
12:29 < daja77> good that you know nothing of my relations
12:30 < netrunner> daja77: ah, you googled? ;)
12:31 < daja77> ;)
12:31 < vegai> hehe, don't remove coreutils
12:31 < vegai> healthy tip for friday =)
12:32 < daja77> hi vegai
12:32 < vegai> howdy
12:32 < vegai> could I build Rock from the CD1 alone
12:33 < vegai> or should I perhaps install Slackware or something as an intermediate system
12:34 < daja77> atm you need all cds for rock (ingnore netrunner atm)
12:34 < vegai> then the slackware way would be wiser at this point, I guess
12:34 < daja77> can't tell haven't used slack for building rock
12:35 < vegai> my current system has crippled (or non-existent at the moment ;) coreutils
12:35 < daja77> ;-)
12:35 < daja77> think we should provide minimal isos again
12:35 < vegai> that'd be nice
12:36 < vegai> or bootstrapped build packets (with the dev-tools inside as binaries)
12:36 < daja77> but i guess i will not build one for rc2
12:36  * daja77 off for breakfast now
12:37  * clifford is off for lunch.
12:38 < vegai> is keeping an installed rock distro up-to-date as easy as with the other distros?
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12:54 < netrunner> vegai: as long as you build updated packages yourself, you can run scripts/Update-System or sth like that.
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12:56 < blindcoder> re
13:06 < netrunner> deer
13:06 < vegai> okay..
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13:24  * netrunner hates people who always take the seats on the outer ends of a row in lecture halls.
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13:45 < daja77> hehe
13:46 < daja77> <- man of the first row
13:57  * netrunner throws paperballs to daja77 
14:00 < clifford> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/odi-21.11.03-001/
14:00  * daja77 points the professor to netrunner 
14:02 < daja77> btw will we support this http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/adb-19.11.03-000/
14:02 < daja77> was debian.org running on woody?
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14:02  * netrunner considers himself and his battery pack hungry and leaves daja77 allone with the prof.
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14:03  * daja77 has a female prof ^^
14:03 < daja77> http://luonnotar.infodrom.org/~joey/debian-announce.txt
14:04  * netrunner wonders why daja77's prof uses the male bathroom
14:05 < daja77> the switched the labels ^^
14:05 < daja77> they
14:05 < daja77> args these idiots http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-21.11.03-004/
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14:38 < cytrinox`-> moin
14:48 < blindcoder> moin moin
14:49 < blindcoder> daja77: just the usual problems
14:49 < daja77> sucks anyway, stallman is such a concrete head
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14:52 < blindcoder> well, if you developed a license and I say it stinks you'd also be pissed
14:54 < daja77> this is no reason to withdraw that guy from the kernel project cos there was no technical reason to do it
14:54 < clifford> but (1) GFDL really sucks and (2) it has nothing todo with maintaining the hurd kernel.
14:55 < daja77> yep it is stupid to mix that up
14:55  * daja77 wondering of the fiasko kernel will beat out the hurd project
14:56 < clifford> btw, GFDL doks have been "banned" from linux kernel sources because GFSL is just stupid crap.
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14:57 < daja77> maybe stallman should consider that the best license is useless if nobody wants it and start rethinking
14:57 < clifford> daja77: well - fiasco has a 1.1 release...
14:58 < daja77> *ggg*
14:58 < daja77> after 2 years of development afaik
14:58 < clifford> but fiasco is - afaik - a microkernel and hurd is a server arch running on a microkernel.
14:59 < daja77> i have not yet had a closer look at fiasco
14:59 < daja77> i only know that the local os people have connection to the developers ^^
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15:01 < blindcoder> honestly, I haven't understood the GFDL completely yet
15:07  * daja77 offers some cookies to the chan
15:10  * blindcoder eats them all
15:10 < daja77> ;-)
15:11 < blindcoder>  *burps*
15:11 < blindcoder> half an hour before I can go home >_<
15:11  * daja77 is still at home ^^
15:11 < blindcoder> you have to go to work today?
15:12 < daja77> no
15:13 < blindcoder> grr
15:13 < blindcoder> lazy bum
15:13  * daja77 trying to get the empty page aka my studienarbeit filled with text
15:13 < daja77> pages
15:14 < blindcoder> strings /dev/mem | lpr
15:14 < daja77> ^^
15:14 < blindcoder> somewhere in the output you'll also find your login password :)
15:15 < daja77> :)
15:16 < blindcoder> actually, that's quite sad >_<
15:16 < daja77> hmm the content is quite interesting on machine with an uptime of 100 days
15:17 < blindcoder> not here, my RAM is constantly used up and swap is active with about 25%
15:17  * daja77 has 1GB RAM
15:17 < blindcoder> half a GB
15:18 < blindcoder> so around 700-800 MB are constantly used
15:18 < daja77> what the hell are you doin with ot
15:18 < daja77> it
15:18 < blindcoder> mldonkey :)
15:18 < daja77> hehe
15:18 < blindcoder> I'm currently thinking about upgrading to 1GB or 2GB
15:19 < blindcoder> with 2GB I could compile LVP in a RAM disk :)
15:19 < daja77> blindcoder: btw i thought that we might remove some packages in build root of lvp before creating the cdrom, that might safe some space
15:19 < daja77> ^^
15:19 < daja77> remove them with mine that is
15:19 < blindcoder> daja77: I also had that idea. like the bootdisk target does
15:20 < blindcoder> that way the build directory wouldn't become unusable after Build-Target is done
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15:20 < blindcoder> the bootdisk target just creates a new directory and installs the gems there
15:20 < blindcoder> the tar.bz2 actually
15:20 < daja77> but we have no gems in lvp 
15:21 < daja77> ok
15:21 < daja77> do we have tar.bz2?
15:21 < blindcoder> no, but that's just changing a variable from 0 to 1
15:21 < daja77> ic
15:22 < daja77> that's sth i will do for multimedia target
15:22 < blindcoder> it makes sense in any case
15:22 < blindcoder> But for this weekend I wanted to fix the thing with the 2GB file size limitation
15:22 < blindcoder> Well, actually I _have_ to do it since the space on my anime hard disk is running short :/
15:23 < daja77> btw http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/mapmaker.tar.bz2, a program i wrote at work some time ago, maybe you can understand the xml parsing stuff by reading it, note it won't compile, so don't worry
15:24 < blindcoder> quite some size that tarball :)
15:24 < daja77> you would need our shmlib and other crap to get it running, but that's not important i think
15:24 < blindcoder> I'll have a look at it today or tomorrow
15:25 < daja77> could be that .o got included i was a bit in a hurry yesterday
15:25 < blindcoder> I see
15:25 < blindcoder> I already have an idea regarding those 2GB limit
15:25 < daja77> src is not that big
15:25 < daja77> if you downloaded it i'd like to remove it again ...
15:26 < daja77> s/if/when
15:26 < blindcoder> 15:25:23 (6.49 KB/s) - `mapmaker.tar.bz2' saved [651181/651181]
15:26 < daja77> done thx
15:27 < blindcoder> I have to say thanks :)
15:27 < daja77> np ;-)
15:30 < blindcoder> looks like I should give up that encryption thing on my harddisks >_<
15:30 < blindcoder> dd'ing 1GB onto /tmp takes two minutes while doing the same onto my encrypted /home takes about 6-15 minutes
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15:38 < blindcoder> anyway, I'm going home
15:38 < blindcoder> baba
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16:05 < rxr> re
16:06 < daja77> hi rxr
16:07 < rxr> hi da
16:07 < rxr> ja
16:08 < daja77> THOU SHALL NOT SPLIT UP MY NAME ;-)
16:08 < pieass> debian.org was cracked, or something..
16:08 < daja77> yep
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16:09 < rxr> daja77: sorry 
16:09 < daja77> *ggg*
16:10  * daja77 likes to speak in captital letters ^^
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17:09 < esden> daja77: do you know anything more specific about the debian story?
17:10 < esden> ahh ok ... slashdot reports 
17:10 < daja77> nope /me isn't involved with debian stuff at all ^^
17:11 < daja77> http://luonnotar.infodrom.org/~joey/debian-announce.txt
17:11 < daja77> http://luonnotar.infodrom.org/~joey/debian-announce.txt
17:11 < daja77> damn, just know this one
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17:12 < esden> daja77: yes I just read that 
17:13 < esden> that sux ... and it will take some days till they are back online >_<
17:13 < daja77> rxr: i just figured out that handling pictures in latex and pdflatex environments are easier to handle now
17:14 < esden> and I need to install mysql ... and unfortunately this packet is on security.debian.org ... what means that I can not install it ... I WANT ROCK BACK *weep*
17:14 < daja77> back?
17:14 < esden> yes
17:15 < daja77> why you killed it
17:15 < esden> because I had to ... 
17:15 < daja77> strange
17:16 < esden> I have a laptop and I had to create an installation for the chair I work for ... and it had to be debian because the guys only know that and do not want to learn something new
17:17 < daja77> ah nice, that's what i really like, that's why the university sticks to fedora *shudder*
17:17 < esden> and I have no possibility to create a backup of it cuz we are missing a machine for that ... so I could install rock here
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17:43 < netrunner> re
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18:00 < Calvany> hi
18:00 < daja77> hi Calvany 
18:01 < Calvany> what's current source snapshot ?
18:02 < daja77> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/stable/src/rock-src-2.0.0-rc2.tar.bz2
18:03 < Calvany> thanks
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18:04 < Demian> cya later guys..
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18:38 < netrunner> http://www.in-berlin.de/support/adsl.html
18:45 < rxr> with a tiny not-yet-official to-be-done-clean fix this is the current reference state:
18:45 < rxr> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg reference
18:45 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-reference-expert:
18:45 < rxr>  [5]   3 base/sendmail                   [5]   0 rene/ffmpeg
18:45 < rxr>  [5]   0 gnome24/seahorse                [5]   0 gnome24/abiword
18:45 < rxr>  [5]   0 alessandro/webmin               
18:45 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 691 completed fine, 5 with errors.
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18:52 < netrunner> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
18:53 < netrunner> rxr: thanks a lot
19:05 < netrunner> rxr: is the dep_db in svn?
19:25 < rxr> ah - no, the reference is far from beeing finished
19:26 < rxr> this is just a mid-report
19:26 < rxr> over 1000 package builds are left - look on the numbers ...
19:29 < netrunner> oh I see
19:30 < daja77> 2070 builds total, wow
19:30 < daja77> were only 992 for rc2 ...
19:31 < netrunner> daja77: could it be that you're mixing packet no vs. build no
19:31 < netrunner> ?
19:31 < daja77> no
19:31 < daja77> i had 992 builds total
19:32  * daja77 will work on rock on sunday, maybe adding packages ^^
19:35 < rxr> daja77: erhm - this is with a rebuild ...
19:35 < rxr> so /2 ...
19:36 < rxr> this build count is mostly package count * 2 + pre stage5 builds ...
19:36 < rxr> # l package/*/*/*.desc | wc -l
19:36 < rxr>    1049
19:39 < daja77> ah ok that fits better
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20:40 < tcr> moin all
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21:50 < mnemoc> help!!! how do i override a function using c++?
21:51 < tcr> what do you mean?
21:52 < mnemoc> i have a Base class with a Foo() function
21:53 < mnemoc> then i have a Child :: Base class that redefines Foo()
21:53 < mnemoc> and at the main there is a function that *believes* it has lot of Base instances
21:54 < mnemoc> but when calling Foo it should call the Foo of the Child instead of the Foo of the Base
21:54 < mnemoc> HELP! :(
21:57 < tcr> What do you mean with that it believes it has instances of Base?
21:57 < mnemoc> void Crappy( Base *thing ) {
21:57 < mnemoc> thing->Foo();
21:57 < mnemoc> }
21:57 < tcr> I should maybe say that I have no practical expierence with c++, but with oop in general
21:57 < th> type cast?
21:58 < mnemoc> but cast to what?
21:58 < th> childclass?
21:58 < th> i did not read the whole storry
21:58 < mnemoc> (Child1) thing or (Child2) thing or ....
21:58 < mnemoc> there are n different ChildClasses
21:59 < mnemoc> all of them 'sons' of Base
21:59 < th> i see
21:59 < mnemoc> ideas?
21:59 < tcr> Well if casting is the right key word, you must cast on caller level
21:59 < th> store the class in the instance
22:00 < th> tcr: this wont help
22:00 < th> cause the paraneter declaration is like a cast itself
22:00 < tcr> th: ?
22:00 < tcr> what do you mean by this?
22:01 < mnemoc> void Crappy( Base *thing ) {
22:01 < th> you want to cast on caller level like foo->crap((CASTHERE)bar) ?
22:01 < mnemoc> ((Child *) thing)->Foo();
22:01 < mnemoc> }
22:01 < tcr> (I'm not surprised that I wasn't right, as I'm thinking in C, nevertheless I'm interested in the reason why I'm wrong)
22:01 < tcr> th, aye
22:02 < th> tcr: so... the CASTHERE cast is a noop, if i understand casting right
22:02 < th> tcr: cause if the parameter is declared as "Base*" it's just a Base again inside callee
22:03 < tcr> th, c++ is casting automatically?!
22:03 < tcr> wrong tense, s/is casting/casts/
22:04 < th> tcr: casting is just a way to say which declaration applies to some memory
22:04 < th> tcr: but the argument you pass is still just that memory
22:04 < mnemoc> th: do you know how can i get the 'ClassName' to do a switch & cast?
22:05 < th> mnemoc: perhaps the obvious way is the easiest...
22:05 < th> mnemoc: store the class in the instance on construction-time
22:05 < th> mnemoc: and switch over that to decide how to cast
22:06 < th> you could do that in Child1 constructor
22:06 < mnemoc> THANKS!! :) great idea
22:06 < mnemoc> child1() : base("CHILD1") 
22:06 < mnemoc> ;)
22:06 < th> self->classType = CLASS_CHILD1;
22:07 < th> you can even use specific constructors
22:07 < th> for each of the child classes
22:08 < th> and set that classType member within each constructor
22:09 < mnemoc> i'm coding that right now
22:11 < th> does bind-named cache records for delegated zones it is not authoritve for?
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22:45 < mnemoc> the only authoritative server are the ones designed as NS in the zone itself
22:45 < th> i knew that.
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