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--- Log opened Sam Nov 22 00:00:07 2003 00:27 -!- ringo [~mooooh@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 00:30 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900572C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "bing dimeout" 00:46 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E76A75.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "goodnight" 00:53 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:0:0:0:2] has joined #rocklinux 01:06 < rxr> re 01:26 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:0:0:0:2] has quit "leaving" 01:49 -!- ringo [~mooooh@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit "leaving" 01:55 < rxr> my rs6k build comes to and end !!! ;-) 01:58 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 02:05 < rxr> ok - cu 02:20 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 02:40 < mistik1> The User Data plugin with a little mods will poll LDAP and get the users username/email address/Name and populate the prefs file 02:40 < mistik1> oops wrong channel :) 03:36 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 04:25 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.247.252.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.253.233.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 07:55 < cytrinox`> moin 08:04 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 09:05 -!- nookie [~nookie@M289P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 09:53 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:55 < rxr> re 09:56 < rxr> moin cytrinox` 10:13 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-reference-expert: 10:13 < rxr> [5] 3 base/sendmail [5] 0 rene/ffmpeg 10:13 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/seahorse [5] 0 gnome24/abiword 10:13 < rxr> [5] 0 kde31/kdeadmin31 [5] 0 alessandro/webmin 10:13 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/gst-plugins 10:13 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 743 completed fine, 7 with errors. 10:14 < blindcoder> moin 10:14 -!- nookie [~nookie@M289P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 10:15 -!- nookie [~nookie@M372P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:27 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD95028A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:49 < rxr> moin blindcoder 10:57 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091bd5.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:57 < netrunne1> moin rxr,blindcoder 10:58 -!- You're now known as netrunner 10:58 < rxr> moin netrunner 10:58 < netrunner> rxr: what machine is building the reference build? 10:58 < rxr> oehm - what exactly do you want to know? 10:59 < netrunner> cpu speed :) 10:59 < rxr> # cat /proc/cpuinfo 10:59 < rxr> processor : 0 10:59 < rxr> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD 10:59 < rxr> cpu family : 6 10:59 < rxr> model : 10 10:59 < rxr> model name : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2500+ 10:59 < rxr> stepping : 0 10:59 < rxr> cpu MHz : 1466.755 10:59 < rxr> cache size : 512 KB 10:59 < rxr> it is running underclocked since I had not yet the money fore new RAM ... 11:00 < netrunner> oh. 11:00 < rxr> # free 11:00 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached 11:00 < rxr> Mem: 514544 507152 7392 0 68868 326168 11:00 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 112116 402428 11:00 < rxr> Swap: 1289024 53080 1235944 11:00 < rxr> ripclaw wanted to sponsor RAM - but he had not yet the time to ship it :-( 11:00 < netrunner> I just noticed that you started the build 3 days ago and it did 750 packages. 11:01 < rxr> you mean this is slow ... ? 11:01 < netrunner> hm. maybe I am faster since I am using ramdisk to build. with a cpu that fast you should look at your hdd-io's ;) 11:02 < netrunner> my hdd led is shining continuously without tempfs 11:02 < rxr> the box was idling much time due to the ongoing XFree fixes ... 11:02 < rxr> and I had to restart the build since one XFree build messed the build root up ... .-( 11:02 < netrunner> ah. 11:03 < rxr> netrunner: for the disk layout you can consult the mailing list's mail "mozilla fix s.th." ... 11:03 * netrunner plans to buy another G of ram to run clusterbuild using tempfs. 11:04 < netrunner> I want to get the cluster build working, at least locally. that speeds up the whole thing a lot. 11:05 < rxr> this regtester was started: 11:05 < rxr> 11/20/03 11:09:55 11:05 < rxr> but with many XFree, Qt, KDE rebuilds ... and idle time because of my either away or typing to fix s.th. ... 11:11 < rxr> the Qt related problem is also not yet fixed in svn:HEAD - I still need to meditate for the correct fix ... 11:13 < netrunner> I am always running with HEAD 11:19 < rxr> hm - damn - for some strange reason svn switch does not work in one dir ... 11:20 < netrunner> never worked for me, always did a new checkout 11:23 < rxr> you mean during the server migration ? 11:23 < rxr> or the rock-trunk trunk switch? 11:31 < netrunner> svn switch --relocate ... when you changed the server or directory 11:39 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 11:49 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801EE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 11:49 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 12:00 < rxr> weeee - I just found out how to make the HP 74xx work better in ADF scanning mode !!! Yeah!!! 12:04 < rxr> mw showering - and off for breakfast - maybe I should move breakfast before rock hacking in the morning schedule ... 12:29 < rxr> ok - but now I'm off ;-) ... 12:36 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 12:55 < rxr> hi micropal 13:12 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-065-185.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 13:14 < rxr> hm - still no breakfast yet 13:15 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-081-011.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:24 < rxr> hi kasc 13:25 < kasc> hiyas 13:25 < kasc> hi rxr 13:56 < rxr> how are you, kasc ? 13:59 < kasc> fine, thx 13:59 < kasc> a bit busy, tho 13:59 < kasc> and you? 14:04 < rxr> oh - very busy, too (as usual) 14:38 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 888 completed fine, 10 with errors. 14:38 < rxr> hey! Currently the reference build as exactly 1000 active packages .... ;-) 14:38 < rxr> cu later 14:43 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091bd5.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 14:46 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 14:56 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:10 -!- praenti [~praenti@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:10 < praenti> hi 15:11 < praenti> anybody here at the moment (waiting 5 minutes for an answer, otherwise forget the question *g*) 15:13 < blindcoder> meep 15:16 < praenti> tach. thx 15:16 < blindcoder> hi :) 15:16 < praenti> somebody have heard me :-) 15:16 < blindcoder> I HEARD THOU, MY SON! 15:17 < praenti> blindcoder: *g* do you know if the install wrapper can do also some not-installs? 15:17 < blindcoder> praenti: not-installs? 15:18 < praenti> blindcoder: yes. because make install installs too much files. some of them are also present... 15:18 < blindcoder> praenti: AFAIK the install_wrapper just loads the flist_wrapper and then executes /usr/bin/install 15:18 < praenti> shitt. then i need another workaround 15:19 < blindcoder> praenti: usually you'd patch the Makefile for this 15:20 < praenti> I know. but i thought, that there are some files in a directory that needs to be installed and some not. 15:21 < blindcoder> hmm... sorry, can't help you there 15:21 < praenti> thought, cause i had a second look a few minutes ago. i will try to kill the subdirs and will compare the two generated flists :-) 15:22 < blindcoder> okay, I'm back to making encryption in LVP work 15:23 < praenti> blindcoder: btw. have you a backup of my data on the old apollo? 15:25 < blindcoder> praenti: I think so 15:25 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 15:25 < praenti> cool. most of the data is i think obsolete but i dont know exactly 15:25 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:50 < rxr> re 15:51 < rxr> hi praenti 15:52 < praenti> hi rxr 15:53 < blindcoder> hi rxr 16:02 < rxr> hi blindcoder 16:03 < mnemoc> re * 16:05 < praenti> ok. I'm away 16:05 < praenti> cu 16:05 -!- praenti [~praenti@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit "leaving" 16:06 -!- praenti [~praenti@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:13 < rxr> hi mnemoc 16:14 < th> hi rxr 16:14 < mnemoc> hi rxr, th 16:15 < mnemoc> what did you decide about ncurses at '' and /usr/*.a thing? 16:17 < rxr> mnemoc: moment - busy ... 16:20 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:20 < fake> hi 16:21 < fake> blindcoder: i found a backup on a cd i had with me all the time of all cvs repositories of old apollo (_after_ i finished that partial rewrite, of course) 16:22 < fake> th: i still had no time to update bluez spd :( 16:22 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 16:26 < blindcoder> fake: sucks 16:27 < blindcoder> hehe, I like the currenty lvp scripts :) 16:41 -!- aoeu238 [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:42 -!- aoeu238 is now known as micropal 16:54 < rxr> hm - two outgoing rsyncs running: 16:54 < rxr> Avg: 334.52 kBit/s 16:55 < rxr> I guess rocklinux-consulting.de will be really slow currently ... 17:07 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091cc6.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:14 < rxr> My DSL line should have 256 kBit/s - nice to see current outgoing average is 343.63 kBit/s ;-) 17:16 < mistik1> what you rsyncing rxr ? 17:17 < rxr> mistik1: since due to the user error on the master ROCK Linux source mirror site - they re-resync all of our tarballs (~4GB) 17:17 < rxr> and I upload -rc2 PowerPC ISOs ... 17:18 < rxr> -rc2 and -rc3 x86 are also already queued for tests (and upload) 17:18 < rxr> but I have not yet found the time to do this ... 17:18 < mistik1> rsync kicks so much ass 17:19 < mistik1> I've been using it lately for a daily offsite backup of all his servers 17:20 < mistik1> full site backups too 17:20 < mistik1> I have already tested pulling the backup to an almost bare metal box and then just install lilo :) 17:20 < rxr> ;-) 17:21 < rxr> I also use it internally to replicate the changesets to the read-only Sunversion load-balancing / backup server svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de ... 18:14 -!- nookie [~nookie@M372P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "leaving" 18:23 -!- dRagn [~Neo@fl-wbu1-c3-193-95.pbc.adelphia.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:23 < dRagn> NEED MSN ? Or Have Fun ? go to www.stuff4u.tk, you wil find it ! 18:23 < dRagn> NEED MSN ? Or Have Fun ? go to www.stuff4u.tk, you wil find it ! 18:23 < dRagn> NEED MSN ? Or Have Fun ? go to www.stuff4u.tk, you wil find it ! 18:23 < dRagn> NEED MSN ? Or Have Fun ? go to www.stuff4u.tk, you wil find it !i 18:23 < dRagn> is 18:23 < dRagn> at 18:23 < dRagn> goed 18:23 -!- dRagn [~Neo@fl-wbu1-c3-193-95.pbc.adelphia.net] has left #rocklinux [] 18:31 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 < MadTux> hello. 18:32 < blindcoder> moin 18:33 < MadTux> blindy! :) 18:33 < blindcoder> that's me :) 18:33 < MadTux> :) 18:44 -!- micropal_ [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M372P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 -!- micropal [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 19:11 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB161.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:19 -!- nookie [~n00kie@M372P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "leaving" 19:19 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 19:20 -!- nookie [~nookie@M372P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:34 < tcr> moin all 19:37 < elon> gruiess eich 19:57 -!- micropal_ [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit "Lost terminal" 20:03 < blindcoder> anyone here using other XFree drivers than nv, nvidia, tdfx or vmware? 20:05 < tcr> blindcoder, yeah I'm using mga 20:05 < tcr> that's the driver for the matrox millennium 20:06 < blindcoder> tcr: could you give me the line o graphics card from lspci? 20:07 < tcr> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 04) 20:07 < blindcoder> thanks 20:08 < tcr> blindcoder, may I know what you need that for? (I guess for some parsing stuff) 20:09 < blindcoder> tcr: for some pseudo-graphiccard-autoconfiguration in LVP 20:09 < blindcoder> I now have nv, mga, tdfx and vmware 20:12 < tcr> Uhm, blindcoder. 20:12 < blindcoder> hm? 20:13 < tcr> You should create a database of formats which depend on the kernel version 20:14 < blindcoder> I don't think that such a fine-grained configuration is really necessary 20:14 < tcr> And as lspci gets its information out of /proc/pci (afaik), you can look up in the kernel sources what string different gc drivers store there 20:14 < blindcoder> grep for nvidia -> nv, 3dfx -> tdfx, vmware -> vmware, Matrox -> mga, else -> vesa 20:15 < tcr> vesa? not vga? 20:15 < tcr> besides, I'm not sure mga is for all matrox cards... it may be very well the case though :) 20:15 < blindcoder> no, vga only supports 800x600x8 which would look horrible when watching a movie 20:16 < tcr> what's lvp anyway? 20:16 < tcr> linux video project? 20:32 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508024C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:32 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 20:32 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003] 20:32 [Users #rocklinux] 20:32 [ _spectre_ ] [ cytrinox`] [ kasc ] [ nookie ] [ SMP ] [ vegai] 20:32 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ MadTux ] [ owl|KKH] [ snyke ] 20:32 [ aszlig ] [ elon ] [ mistik1 ] [ praenti] [ tcr ] 20:32 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 20:32 [ cchamilt ] [ fake ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ trekkie3k] 20:32 [ clifford ] [ hannes ] [ netrunner] [ scoopex] [ true ] 20:32 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 31 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 31 normal] 20:32 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 20:32 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 20:33 < MadTux> pserver or ssh ? 20:34 < mnemoc> pserver 20:35 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080221B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:35 < mnemoc> i want chmod +x something 20:35 < mnemoc> like scripts/Foo 20:35 < mnemoc> they checkout as +x 20:44 -!- scoopex [~marc@td9091cc6.adsl.terralink.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:47 < rxr> mnemoc: you actively use cvs nowadays? 20:47 < mnemoc> it's better than rcs :) 20:48 < mnemoc> i use it for group-homeworks at univ. 20:49 < mnemoc> i choose cvs mainly because tortoisecvs.org 20:53 < rxr> mnemoc: do you already use rocknet? 20:54 < rxr> and/or th? 20:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i have been very away these days 20:56 < rxr> have you taken a look into the firewalling? 20:57 < mnemoc> not yet 20:58 < rxr> hm - anyway a tiny question 20:58 < rxr> in the current first implementation you have the keywords allow and deny (of course with the arguments needed to specify tcp|udp and the port ... 20:59 < rxr> allow accepts the packages and deny rejects them 20:59 < rxr> I just added "drop" since I want/need it 20:59 < rxr> I would like to rename allow -> accept and deny -> reject - I think this would be more intuitiv ... 21:00 < th> mnemoc: you need to set +x on the file before you add it 21:01 < th> or +x it in the repository directly 21:01 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD95028A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "bing dimeout" 21:03 < th> rxr: renaming would be obviously ok if you need 3 keywords. 21:03 < th> allow,deny VS. accept,reject,drop 21:03 < th> allow and deny are just policies. 21:03 < th> accept,reject and drop are real actions 21:03 < th> there is a different 21:03 < th> s/different/difference/ 21:04 < th> i don't know the rocknet concept enough to know whether you want policies or actions 21:04 < th> of course it is required to be able to specify actions 21:04 < th> perhaps policy global 21:04 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < mnemoc> i think actions 21:05 < th> but something is required to be able set reject and/or drop 21:05 < th> well 21:05 < th> i could think of actions and policies 21:05 < th> where a policy can be defined as an action 21:05 < th> so you can use allow and deny. 21:05 -!- elon_ [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:06 < th> and set deny to do a DROP 21:06 < th> and use reject instead of deny where you need it 21:06 < rxr> th: this DROP thing is why I added drop 21:06 < rxr> clifford explicitly wants deny to REJECT 21:06 < rxr> but I often want drop - thus I just comitted the new drop keyword 21:07 < rxr> but I think I'll make the wohle thing a bit more obvious and rename the accept and deny to accept and reject ... 21:07 < th> rxr: so the action for the deny policy should not be editable? 21:07 < th> three words like "allow, deny, drop" would be a bad thing 21:07 < th> "accept, reject, drop" would be ok. 21:08 < th> "allow, deny, reject, accept, drop" would be even better i think 21:08 < rxr> ack - I wanted to ask if other feel this way, too - before I rename them ... 21:08 < th> and you can define what allow and deny does 21:10 < rxr> hm - I think that would be a bit over-featured when we already have accept, reject and drop ... 21:10 < th> i agree 21:10 * mnemoc acks 21:11 -!- Christian___ [~konversat@pD9530AE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:11 < rxr> and allow should allways be accept - defining allow to be reject or drop would be quite - erhm - ... 21:11 < th> but allow could be "log,accept" 21:12 < th> or even "log,redirect" 21:12 < mnemoc> i like that 21:12 < th> or "count,accept" 21:12 < mnemoc> mmm 21:12 < mnemoc> :( 21:12 -!- Christian___ is now known as cmk 21:12 < th> that '"log,redirect"' was quite scary 21:13 -!- cmk is now known as Christian___ 21:13 -!- Christian___ is now known as cmk 21:14 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E75FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 21:16 < rxr> this would make the simple firewall parser quite complex 21:17 < th> yes 21:17 < rxr> I would vote to introduce seperate keywords for those log count ... 21:17 < th> as i told. i don't know rocknet 21:17 < th> and i think i would not like to use it 21:17 < rxr> th: the ROCK Handbook with the new ROCK Net section will be online in some minutes 21:18 < th> rxr: perhaps i'll have a look at it tomorrow 21:18 < rxr> a proposal was on the rock-linux list (a few times) - and it is in SVN since half a week or so now 21:18 < th> rxr: yes i know 21:18 < th> rxr: but my interrest in it is quite low. 21:18 < th> sorry 21:18 < rxr> ok - no problem 21:19 < rxr> it is not complex anyway - and can easily be ignored if not wanted/needed ... 21:20 < th> i expected the latter one. 21:22 < cmk> I have to call to costa rica from germany. do you know how this works? 21:26 < pieass> you have to dial +506 21:27 < pieass> this is the area code of costa rica. 21:28 < mnemoc> 3 digits? 21:28 < th> i'm away 21:29 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - seems so ... 21:29 < rxr> cu th 21:30 < pieass> cu 21:32 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch10.html 21:32 < rxr> ^- new ROCK Net section! 21:35 -!- nookie [~nookie@M372P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 21:59 < blindcoder> hrm... the LVP scripts aren't that good after all >_< 21:59 < blindcoder> echo "Rewrite scripts from scratch" >>TODO 22:42 < daja77> hehe 22:43 < blindcoder> well, the script as it is does work... 22:43 < blindcoder> but it is a whole shitload of crap and extending it became worse over today's work 22:44 < daja77> will have a look at that when working on multimedia target, have you learned sth from that code i gave you? 22:44 < blindcoder> sorry, haven't looked at it yet. Wanted to have encryption up and running to be able to write some DVDs to free hard disk space 22:44 < daja77> ;-) 22:45 < blindcoder> I only have some 2 GB free (of a 120 GB disk) 22:47 < daja77> oh 23:00 * blindcoder --> bed 23:00 < blindcoder> good night 23:01 < daja77> oon8 blindy 23:01 < daja77> n8 even 23:03 < rxr> hi daja77 23:05 < MadTux> greetings 23:08 < daja77> hi rxr & MadTux 23:08 * daja77 back from granny's birthday party ;-) 23:10 < MadTux> oh ongratz to granny.. have you given a new set of rock cds to her as gift? 23:10 < MadTux> :) 23:10 < daja77> no, don't think it is a good thing letting her doin it alone 23:11 < daja77> we bought a kde book for her 23:11 < MadTux> awesome : 23:12 < MadTux> great bday present :) 23:12 < daja77> :) 23:13 < daja77> hmm she has a beta4 on her pc ... 23:17 * daja77 always surprised what coneheads posting to rtai ml 23:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB161.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 23:23 < daja77> who is remote and why is he playing with my connection ^^ 23:24 * MadTux laughst 23:25 < MadTux> daja77: maybe its owl 23:26 * daja77 really have been asked who this remote guy is ^^ 23:26 < daja77> hehe might be true 23:28 < daja77> doe we have a tag for ibm public license? 23:28 < daja77> -e 23:39 * daja77 goin to bed 23:39 < daja77> cu 23:42 < pieass> gn8 daja 23:43 < MadTux> hi pieass 23:43 < MadTux> n8 daja77 23:43 < pieass> hi 23:44 < rxr> daja77: nope 23:47 < pieass> now he's having nightmares because he didn't know the answer, when he went to bed ;) 23:48 < rxr> SVN:HEAD's build status looks really good: 23:48 < rxr> 2070 builds total, 1058 completed fine, 17 with errors. 23:49 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-reference-expert: 23:49 < rxr> [5] 3 base/sendmail [5] 0 rene/ffmpeg 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/seahorse [5] 0 gnome24/abiword 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 kde31/kdeadmin31 [5] 0 alessandro/webmin 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/gst-plugins [5] 0 rene/coda 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 esden/tetradraw [5] 0 rene/vlc 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/gnome-media [5] 0 gnome24/nautilus-media 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/rhythmbox [5] 0 mnemoc/mono-debugger 23:49 < daja77> *gnarf* luser bug report mails prevent me from sleeping 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 mnemoc/mono-doc [5] 0 nikolaus/ocs 23:49 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/pybliographer 23:49 < rxr> much fun fixing 23:49 < daja77> nice no kde package in that list 23:49 * netrunne1 hands daja77 his glasses 23:50 < rxr> daja77: hm? ROCK Linux "l"user? 23:50 -!- You're now known as netrunner 23:50 < rxr> jups kdeadmin 23:50 < daja77> btw is ifconfig intentionally missing in rc2 23:50 < daja77> yes 23:50 < rxr> oeh 23:50 < rxr> no 23:50 < daja77> just got complains about it 23:51 < netrunner> daja77: maybe normal user tried to ifconfig? it's in a sbin ... 23:51 < daja77> rxr: btw is there a special reason why usb stuff is compiled hard into the kernel while rockplug is trying to load the modules? 23:52 < daja77> netrunner: don't think so verifying this atm 23:53 < daja77> there is no ifconfig in /sbin 23:55 < netrunner> daja77: i guess that is a rockplug problem. it does not detect if something is modularized or not. 23:55 < daja77> guess the best thing is to sleep now and writing a detailed bug report for rc2 tomorrow, guess i'll find more stuff in it which might not have been fixed yet 23:56 < daja77> well all other distros i know have them as modules, personally i think that will be better 23:56 < daja77> it looks ugly to end users seeing that fake error messages ;-) 23:58 < rxr> daja77: yes - the rockplug code sucks 23:58 < rxr> this stuff will be cleaned up by me in the next days 23:58 < rxr> the current SVN rockplug code is also much cleaned up and fixes 23:58 < rxr> fixed even 23:59 < rxr> daja77: nope no modules 23:59 < rxr> I nearly only have USB only systems and I want a functional keyboard from the beginning without initrd 23:59 < rxr> this is really no problem - and rockplug should never try to load this modules --- Log closed Son Nov 23 00:00:04 2003