--- Log opened Mon Dez 01 00:00:49 2003
00:05 < jani_> ok, reading the mailing list archive, I find that rc-2 might not be 'tested' yet. what is the preferred iso to use to install rock at the moment?
00:19 < mnemoc> re
00:19 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
00:19 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
00:20 < daja77> mnemoc: can you help him, have to go to bed now
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00:21 < daja77> cu
00:21 < mnemoc> cu daja77 
00:22 < mnemoc> help who?
00:23 < mnemoc> jani_?
00:23 < jani_> mnemoc, yep?
00:23 < mnemoc> what do you exactly want to do?
00:24 < jani_> i am trying to install rock, but the generic rc-2 cd's i have downloaded want to keep crashing my computer. it's a quirky compaq laptop, and the old syslinux seems to be the cause
00:24 < mnemoc> then cd1 doesn't boot on your laptop?
00:25 < jani_> i get a kernel panic on boot without the nomce option, (same as with other distros), but then my ide controller stops working (same as other distros) but the acpi=on switch doesn't fix this like it usually does
00:25 < jani_> i figure this is because cd1 does not have acpi compiled in to the kernel
00:26 < jani_> pci=biosirq doesn't seem to help either (gentoo boots with nomce pci=biosirq nousb)
00:26 < jani_> but rock doesn't
00:27 < jani_> with the nomce option the boot up freezes at Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:83
00:28 < jani_> presumably cos the ide controller has frozen (which it has, a cold reboot is necessary before it works again)
00:29 < mnemoc> maybe because of devfs
00:30 < jani_> gentoo works with devfs
00:30 < jani_> i was hoping there'd be some way to do the install from within a chroot, or something, seeing as I can boot up fedora or gentoo
00:30 < mnemoc> actualy you can install rock from any devfs bootdisk 
00:30 < mnemoc> boot something with devfs
00:31 < jani_> and then?
00:31 < mnemoc> and extract '2nd_stage.tar.gz' into some directory
00:31 < mnemoc> umount cdrom
00:31 < mnemoc> mount dev and proc and chroot
00:31 < mnemoc> the run stone
00:32 < jani_> ok, i'll see how i go, i'll just dig up an old gentoo cd
00:32 < mnemoc> i did it once from a BG-Rescue disk
00:33 < mnemoc> if you have to download somethingdownload that, it's very light
00:33 < mnemoc> 2MB iirc
00:35 < jani_> ok, i'll have a loot at that, thanks.
00:35 < mnemoc> any question? i have to go now
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00:36 < jani_> um... 2nd_stage.tar.gz is on the install cd?
00:36 < mnemoc> yep
00:36 < jani_> ok... so it's kinda like the gentoo install process
00:36 < jani_> i'll see how i go :)
00:36 < mnemoc> :|
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00:56 < jani_> mnemoc, do you know if BG-Rescue has acpi support in it?
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02:46 < zum> hmm mm
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03:13 < mnemoc> re
03:13 < mnemoc> jani_: no idea
03:34 < jani_> mnemoc, ah well, i've managed to launch stone now, but there don't seem to be any instructions on what I'm meant to do with the menus
03:38 < mnemoc> :)
03:39 < mnemoc> create,format and mount the partitios
03:39 < mnemoc> generate fstab
03:42 < jani_> yeah, i kinda figured that.  should I mount the target partitions under /mnt/target? or does that happen automatically?
03:42 < cchamilt> Hmm, mnemoc?
03:42 < mnemoc> when you mount root it mounts there
03:42 < mnemoc> cchamilt: hi
03:43 < cchamilt> I have not had time to make the tla conversion.  I will give you access to my server to try if you have time.
03:44 < cchamilt> My server hasnt died in 3 weeks so I think mysql was the culprit (I moved to postgresql anyway).
03:44 < cchamilt> So it should be stable enough for general rock work.
03:45 < cchamilt> I got mythtv working last night finally.  Do not buy epia-m motherboards.  They are crap manufacturing quality.
03:48 < mnemoc> epia-m?? wtf is that? :|
03:50 < cchamilt> Via motherboard with the Nehemiah 10000 CPU.  It comes with really crappy audio ports.
03:51 < cchamilt> It has trouble turning on, it is slow playing dvd's, but otherwise is OK.  It is just quite below other manufacturers quality.
03:52 < cchamilt> It is a mini-ITX board.
03:52 < mnemoc> btw, is it true that ASRock == Asus?
03:52 < cchamilt> no idea
03:53 < mnemoc> :
03:53 < mnemoc> \
03:58 < cchamilt> Hmm should rip cds.
03:58 < cchamilt> should try ripping a dvd soon.
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04:17 < mnemoc> aarg...
04:17 < mnemoc> i fail to update xfsprogs :(
04:24 < mnemoc> do u want to try? =)
04:25 < mnemoc> gn8 *
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06:09 < owl> moin
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07:33 < MadTux> moin
07:34 < owl> hola Miguel!
07:34 < owl> que tal?
07:43 < blindcoder> moin
07:43 < MadTux> hello all :)
07:43 < MadTux> owl: good and you ?
07:43 < blindcoder> moin MadTux 
07:43 < blindcoder> moin owl 
07:44 < blindcoder> MadTux: I'm now uploading the new version of LVP, although it's not officially released yet
07:44 < MadTux> blindcoder: okis
07:45 < MadTux> blindcoder: there is yet a new avm on my server go for it
07:45 < owl> MadTux: no muy bien, gracias
07:46 < owl> hi blindy
07:46  * MadTux away watching 2fast 2 furious
07:46 < owl> hehehehe. 
07:46 < owl> .oO(funny movie *g*)
07:46 < MadTux> so be back later
07:46 < owl> enjoy it. bye MadTux 
07:46 < MadTux> than owly
07:46 < blindcoder> MadTux: okay, ja ne
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09:36 < daja77> moin
09:36 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:37 < daja77> hi blindy
09:39 < blindcoder> LVP 0.2.2 currently in final testing-stage
09:40 < daja77> cool
09:40 < blindcoder> Changes:
09:40 < blindcoder> - Rewrite of most scripts
09:40 < blindcoder> - Less confisung bootup
09:40  * MadTux opens eyes and listens
09:40 < blindcoder> - An Exit-Button :)
09:41 < blindcoder> - Update to latest revision of ROCK Linux
09:41 < blindcoder> EOF
09:42 < MadTux> eggcellent
09:42 < blindcoder> two hard-boiled for me :)
09:42 < blindcoder> if the current build succeeds then I'll announce it on fm][
09:43 < daja77> hi MadTux 
09:44 < blindcoder> unfortunately I am not able to shut down the system on every machine...
09:44 < blindcoder> But I have to start using initrd anyway so I can eject the CD
09:44 < daja77> systems in ram you don't have to shut down
09:44 < blindcoder> daja77: I mean shut down as in "turn off the PC"
09:45 < blindcoder> on my main machine it works with "echo o >/proc/sysrq-trigger"
09:50 < daja77> rofl http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20031130
09:52 < blindcoder> hehe, yes :)
09:52 < blindcoder> echo "- Volume Control" >>TODO-LVP
09:54  * owl np: eisregen - bei den gräbern
09:55 < daja77> :)
09:55 < owl> hi daja77 btw
09:55 < daja77> hi owl
09:55 < owl> how are you?
09:56 < daja77> quite ok a bit sleepy
09:57 < blindcoder> daja77: btw: the thing with compiling each and every framebuffer into the kernel seems to work. I even get a framebuffer in VMWare now :)
09:57 < daja77> cool
09:58 < blindcoder> daja77: I'll have a few more tests and maybe I can go away from XFree and use directfb insted
10:00 < daja77> would be good
10:00 < blindcoder> that would easily save 100 MB on the live system :)
10:00 < blindcoder> oh, one "important" change I forgot:
10:01 < blindcoder> you can give the kernel a keymap= parameter and the corresponding .map.gz file will be loaded :)
10:03 < blindcoder> mhm the test looks fine, it just reached stage 5
10:05 < daja77> guess i will try the next release on mike's videos
10:06 < blindcoder> daja77: http://www.crash-override.net/lvp/download/lvp_automate_0.2.2.sh
10:07 < daja77> later ;-)
10:07 < blindcoder> oay :)
10:07 < blindcoder> just wanted to state that it's already there, just not linked anywhere :)
10:07 < daja77> busy day today :-(
10:07 < blindcoder> well it builds itself :)
10:08 < daja77> i know
10:08 < blindcoder> hmm...
10:08 < blindcoder> that's something I could do before this release...
10:08 < blindcoder> correct error-checking in the automate script
10:14  * daja77 off to university now
10:56 < rxr> re
10:56 < owl> hi rxr 
10:56 < blindcoder> moin rxr
11:01 < rxr> ok - me off to uni ...
11:01 < rxr> patches get applied this evening ...
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11:56 < puzzled> morning
12:19 < blindcoder> fuck...
12:20 < blindcoder> Compaq Proliant's are no default ix86 arch, are they?
12:21 < puzzled> what do you mean?
12:21 < puzzled> they can be intel boxes alright but alway have extra "features" cramped on the board and maybe change some stuff to "enhance" it
12:22 < blindcoder> I mean: Do they boot a standard x86 kernel from red crap?
12:22 < puzzled> afaik yes
12:22 < puzzled> otherwise try a fedora boot thingy. it's the latest so might make it easier on newer models
12:24 < blindcoder> I can't, I need Advanced Server 2.1
12:24 < blindcoder> but it says uncompressing kernel and then just sits there
12:24 < puzzled> that comes with support doesn't it?
12:25 < puzzled> try acpi=off
12:25 < blindcoder> yes, but I'm only a consultant here and currently there is nobody else in reach whom I could kick :)
12:25 < puzzled> at the boot prompt: linux acpi=off
12:25 < blindcoder> okay, will try next time I'm down there at the test-machine.
12:26 < blindcoder> Now I'm waiting for someone to have lunch
12:26 < blindcoder> :)
12:27 < puzzled> heh
13:04  * blindcoder lunch
13:04 < owl> blindcoder = lunch ?
13:04 < owl> blindcoder != lunch
13:04 < owl> blindcoder ???
13:17 < esden> owl = lunch; if ( owl == lunch ) { oven.insert(owl); esden.eat(over.get(owl)); if ( esden.food.was_good();) { esden.say("yummy"); } else { esden.puke() };
13:17 < esden> C++ rulez ;)
13:19 < owl> *rofl* esden ! hi!!!
13:19 < owl> *waves*
13:20 < esden> hi owl!
13:20  * esden this.wave()
13:20 < owl> O_o
13:21 < owl> .oO(esden codes too much)
13:21  * esden { this.grin(); }
13:23 < owl> owl.say("help! esden is insane! source code junkie on drugs. S-O-S!!!!")
13:27 < blindcoder> free(esden);
13:27 < blindcoder> :)
13:27 < blindcoder> hmm
13:28 < blindcoder> free(&esden); /* ?? */
13:28 < blindcoder> no idea :)
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13:48 < esden> blindcoder: hehe ;)
13:49  * esden is thinking about overriding blindcoder's operators
13:49 < esden> ;)
13:49 < blindcoder> I have nop idea about C/C++ atm, too much bash recently >_<
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13:50 < blindcoder> esden: do you think anyone would mind ig I announce LVP-Releases on rock-linux list? :)
13:50 < esden> blindcoder: my brain was washed with C++ during the weekend
13:50 < esden> blindcoder: you can try it ;)
13:51 < esden> I do not think that anyone would have anything against it ... it is a rocklinux based project ... no?
13:51 < esden> ok ... I look for some eyecandy for linux ... 
13:51 < esden> looking at mac OS X is killing me!
13:52 < esden> I want a mac "VERFLUCHT!"
13:52 < blindcoder> esden: yes it is ROCK based
13:52 < esden> blindcoder: you see ...
13:52 < blindcoder> esden: and if 2.0.0-final isn't here before LVP 0.8 I will submit it to ROCK :)
14:00 < esden> humm ... blindcoder that is a good idea ...
14:00 < esden> I really ask myself if we will have 2.0.0 next year ...
14:02 < Amittp> do the versons really matter ?
14:02 < Amittp> or do they matter while installing from scratch?
14:04 < Amittp> I am new at this, and wondering if I should stop till 2.0.0 or go ahead with whats avaialble now?
14:06 < Amittp> are newbie questions answered here? or is this a dev channel?
14:07 < blindcoder> esden: you can and should use what is available now
14:07 < Amittp> blindcoder, is that for me?
14:07 < blindcoder> esden: Personally I just want to do my part in keeping the "Feature Freeze"
14:07 < blindcoder> ARGL
14:07 < blindcoder> Amittp: yes, sorry, ELUSER here >_<
14:07 < mnemoc> re
14:08 < blindcoder> Amittp: we don't have a distinction between dev-channel and user-channel. Everyone is welcome here :)
14:08 < Amittp> blindcoder, please help me with one more thing. for installation from cd, i could only get acces to binary cds
14:09 < Amittp> i was under impression that we have to build on our own
14:10 < Amittp> is there a different bootable cd which holds just the helping scripts? and tarballs?
14:10 < owl> bye
14:10 < mnemoc> bye owl 
14:10 < Amittp> hooot hooot
14:12 < mnemoc> Amittp: currently we only provide that binary cd
14:13 < mnemoc> anything else you have to do it downloading the last snapshot of rock and the download the required tarball from one of owr mirrors
14:14 < blindcoder> you can build ROCK on your own, bu you don't have to
14:14 < blindcoder> Amittp: you can download the scripts via subversion
14:14 < Amittp> hmm
14:15 < Amittp> and its better to get binary cd than building our own rock?
14:15 < mnemoc> building your own is better
14:16 < Amittp> mnemoc, can you please suggest me how to go about it? i am getting bit lost in handbook
14:16 < blindcoder> GNARF! CDE SUCKS!
14:16 < mnemoc> you need a devfs based linux
14:16 < blindcoder> I just logged myself out by accident
14:17 < Amittp> like lfs? u need linux installed before?
14:17 < mnemoc> update it and install subversion
14:17 < mnemoc> Amittp: yes
14:17 < Amittp> mnemoc, Oh!
14:18 < Amittp> any pointers n this, my hdd is partitioned already, i want to replace existing linux
14:18 < Amittp> anyway to do it without making new partitions?
14:21 < blindcoder> how is it partitioned?
14:21 < mnemoc> fix your current linux to support devfs, and build rock there
14:21 < Amittp> mnemoc, i have devfs support 
14:22 < Amittp> 2 hda1/2 primary win partitions
14:22 < Amittp> hda3 primary boot
14:22 < Amittp> hda6-> root/ hda 7 -> home
14:23 < blindcoder> I see no problem with this
14:23 < blindcoder> as long as you have a few gigs free space you can build it
14:24 < Amittp> the linu partitions are already occupied by other distro
14:25 < blindcoder> hmm.... then you won't have any luck
14:25 < blindcoder> you need roughly 5 GB free hard disk space
14:25 < Amittp> but do  need diff partitions?
14:25 < Amittp> like lfs ?
14:25 < Amittp> or ohh, can i use some livecd with devfs support?
14:26 < Amittp> i thinki can use that! anyone has tried it? 
14:26 < blindcoder> you don't need different partitions, you can kludge all your / onto one partition
14:26 < blindcoder> I think it has been done, but we don't have a LiveBuildCD right now
14:27 < Amittp> no using different livecd
14:27 < Amittp> blindcoder, the kludging i have never tried thats where i need help
14:28 < blindcoder> Amittp: it's no different from installing onto different partitions, but I can help you there :)
14:29 < blindcoder> brb
14:29 < Amittp> blindcoder, i am not underastnding that if i use same partition , from where im installing with help of other linux, wont it break everything
14:29 < Amittp> excuse my english plz
14:33 < blindcoder> oh, now I see what you are trying to do
14:34 < blindcoder> do you have a CD-Writer?
14:34 < Amittp> yes
14:34 < blindcoder> then why not just building ROCK, writing it to a CD and install it from there?
14:35 < Amittp> blindcoder, i didntget you ?
14:36 < Amittp> what do i write to cd?
14:36 < blindcoder> you build ROCK on your current system, then write it to a CD, boot it and install ROCK from there
14:37 < blindcoder> Amittp: ROCK has a few scripts that will do this for you:
14:37 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Config --> configures thesystem you want to have
14:38 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Download --> downloads all sources you need for building your configured system
14:38 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Build-Target --> Builds your configured system
14:38 < blindcoder> Amittp: ./scripts/Create-ISO --> creates some CD-Images with which you can install your ROCK System
14:38 < blindcoder> and that's about it
14:39 < blindcoder> or maybe I just don't get your prsblem
14:39 < Amittp> blindcoder, :)
14:39 < Amittp> u r right i guess u solved my problem
14:40 < blindcoder> Amittp: if not, feel free to ask again
14:40 < Amittp> ok one last trival doubt, this build system, that wont be bootable without writig to system right?
14:41 < Amittp> that is for getting on cd only ?
14:41 < Amittp> writing to cd i mean not system.. :D
14:42 < blindcoder> Amittp: hte You have to build two systems. One bootdisk-system which will handle the installation process and booting the CD
14:42 < blindcoder> Amittp: and the system you want to have
14:43 < Amittp> ok :)
14:43 < Amittp> much much clear what to do now
14:44 < blindcoder> :)
14:44 < Amittp> and this is without breaking my existing system :) 
14:44 < Amittp> or making new partition.. :) phew!
14:44 < Amittp> thankls for cnnecting missing pieces from handbook
14:45 < Amittp> or rather distributed pieces
14:45 < blindcoder> no problem
14:53 < Amittp> i just found everything you said in docdir lol. 
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15:00 < cytrinox`> moin
15:00 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 
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15:03 < elon> hi all
15:03 < Amittp> hi
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15:06 < Amittp> blindcoder, on 2Ghz, 512 mb ram, what will be the build time? roughly?
15:07 < blindcoder> for a generic target with Rebuild Stage: some 5 days
15:07 < blindcoder> without rebuild stage: about 50 hours
15:07 < rolla> re
15:10 < Amittp> blindcoder, rebuild?
15:11 < Amittp> I am not looking at right place or is this information not included in handbook yet?
15:12 < blindcoder> Amittp: Rebuild is Stage 9
15:15 < Amittp> :) bye will start now :)
15:16 < Amittp> ty blindcoder
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15:23 < MadTux> re
15:24 < mnemoc> wb MadTux 
15:24 < blindcoder> wb MadTux 
15:24 < MadTux> hello mnemoc and blindy
15:24 < blindcoder> alright, I'm leaving for today
15:24 < MadTux> blindcoder: mm... 
15:24 < blindcoder> have a meeting with a new client today
15:24 < MadTux> bc ok.. you back later>?
15:24 < blindcoder> ja ne
15:25 < MadTux> oyasumi nasai.
15:25 < blindcoder> MadTux: hmm, don't know, maybe in 7 hours, no way to be back earlier
15:25 < MadTux> blindcoder: i guess i will be around then
15:25 < blindcoder> MadTux: depends if I spend the night in Munich or at home
15:26 < MadTux> in case you don't come back, lots of fun :)
15:26 < blindcoder> so we'll see
15:26 < blindcoder> gotta go now
15:26 < blindcoder> MadTux: thanks :)
15:26 < MadTux> cya
15:26 < blindcoder> bye
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15:39 < daja77> re
15:39 < MadTux> hello daja77
15:41 < daja77> hello MadTux 
15:42 < MadTux> daja77: so got sonne?
15:42 < daja77> yep
15:42 < MadTux> daja77: gut so i remove it from my server
15:43 < daja77> hm why
15:45 < MadTux> because i don't want people eating my bandwidth with this kind of stuff
15:45 < daja77> hehe ok sorry
15:46 < MadTux> daja77: i make exceptions with you and blindy
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15:46 < rolla> yawn
15:47 < daja77> hi rolla, long time no see
15:52 < rolla> yeah it was holiday here 
15:52 < daja77> cool
15:52 < daja77> how many turkeys you had? *gg*
15:52 < rolla> yeah I got sick so it sucked
15:52 < rolla> daja77: do you germans have anything like this?
15:53 < daja77> so today's userfriendly ^^
15:53 < daja77> nope
15:53 < daja77> the pilgrims were from england ^^
15:53 < rolla> well I know but maybe there was a like holiday that you guys have
15:54 < rolla> also the pilgrims left from holland not UK
15:54 < daja77> holland, hmm ok, there were some uk fanatics who moved to america too
15:56 < rolla> yes they left UK and went to holland
15:56 < rolla> but they were tired of relegious freedom there and wanted to be the only religion so they left and came here
15:57 < MadTux> hello's rolla
15:57 < rolla> but they don't teach that here. We must have the high and mighty version of it.
15:57 < rolla> hallo MadTux 
15:57 < MadTux> rolla: really nice to see here, its been a while
15:57 < rolla> daja77: you must remember history is written by the victor's 
15:57 < rolla> ja
15:59  * rolla smiles it is good to be back
16:00 < MadTux> its good to see you back :)
16:01 < daja77> i even heard from a small group from the erzgebirge who moved to america
16:01 < rolla> daja77: ?
16:01 < rolla> germans?
16:02 < daja77> yes
16:02 < daja77> the founded a village somewhere in the midwest, but i forgot the name
16:03 < daja77> they
16:03 < daja77> brb
16:03 < rolla> :)
16:22  * daja77 fixing samba server :(
16:23  * daja77 needs blindy's spammerassasin now
16:29 < daja77> anynody knows if 2.4.23 is already in trunk?
16:32 < mnemoc> no it's not
16:32 < mnemoc> it will be on rc5 :)
16:32 < daja77> d'oh
16:33 < MadTux> daja77: 2.4.24 will be out in a few weeks anyways..
16:34 < mnemoc> bad release?
16:34 < daja77> this sucks
16:35 < MadTux> mnemoc: no, last relase allowing featurews, drivers etc additions
16:35 < MadTux> 2.4.25 will consist of ONLY fixes
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16:38 < jsaw> hello everybody
16:38 < daja77> hi jsaw 
16:39 < jsaw> it's been a long time (...)
16:39 < jsaw> hi daja77
16:39 < MadTux> hello jsaw
16:39 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
16:40 < jsaw> hi^2
16:42 < jsaw> anybody around who want's to update xine+libs (I don't understand the build errors)?
17:05 < daja77> yawn
17:13 < mnemoc> aarg.. xfsprogs is damn hard to update :(
17:18 < jsaw> :)
17:19 < daja77> we could add rtai to that hard to update list
17:23 < mnemoc> :)
17:29 -!- WrKRobe [robe@das.geizhals.buero.ist.geiler.at] has joined #rocklinux
17:29 < WrKRobe> gna.
17:29 < MadTux> greetings WrKRobe
17:30 < WrKRobe> hola.
17:30 < MadTux> how are ya?
17:30 < WrKRobe> normal, I guess
17:30 < MadTux> WrKRobe: so got rely from cliff?
17:30 < WrKRobe> ya
17:30 < WrKRobe> is gds.tuwien.ac.at the main mirror for the rsync files?
17:30 < MadTux> gut :)
17:30 < MadTux> yups
17:30 < WrKRobe> argl...
17:31 < WrKRobe> this is going to be fun.
17:31 < WrKRobe> receiving file list ...
17:31 < WrKRobe>  2700 files...
17:31 < WrKRobe> (started it 5 minutes ago)
17:31 < MadTux> :)
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17:44 < daja77> have we changed the init scripts recently?
17:44 < mnemoc> i think not
17:46 < mnemoc> welll rocknet 
17:46 < daja77> ah k. don't worryx
17:48 < daja77> the .init file is a template for the later script, right?
17:48 < mnemoc> yep
17:48 < mnemoc> m4 sth
17:50 < mnemoc> i have a misc/initstyles i want to introduce in 2.1
17:51  * mnemoc hates sysvinit :)
17:51  * daja77 too
17:51 < mnemoc> i use runit, what do you use?
17:52 < daja77> i use sysv atm, wanted to try minit sometime
17:55 < mnemoc> i like readonlyness of minit
17:55 < jsaw> cu l8r
17:55 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 
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18:28  * daja77 stupid
18:30 < rolla> what?
18:31  * daja77 rm -rf his mozilla lib dir
18:31  * daja77 trying to build a flash-plugin package
18:32 < daja77> well good point to ugrade mozilla *sigh*
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19:09 < mnemoc> daja77: some stupid person i know closely once decided that alias rm='rm -rf' was a good idea
19:11 < daja77> ahem what a moron
19:11 < daja77> anyway flash-plugin patch send
19:12 < esden> re hi all
19:13 < daja77> hi esden
19:13 < mnemoc> wb esden 
19:13  * esden sitting in front of a 21" monitor of a mac G4 with two 2Ghz processors ....
19:13 < esden> that is neat ;)
19:14 < daja77> hehe you try rock on it?
19:14 < mnemoc> ram?
19:14 < esden> 8GB DDR RAM
19:14 < mnemoc> :o
19:14 < daja77> wow
19:14 < esden> hehe *GG*
19:14 < esden> sadly it is not mine
19:14  * mnemoc falls down the chair
19:14 < esden> no I do not try to rock it ...
19:15 < esden> here is already a very nice operating system running ;)
19:15  * daja77 helps mnemoc up
19:15 < mnemoc> thank you daja
19:15 < esden> poor mnemoc 
19:16 < esden> I wait for "my" baby ... it will be even more neat then that box
19:16 < esden> this one is a very nice dvd ripping machine
19:16 < daja77> tell us more
19:16 < esden> but not for number crunching ;)
19:17 < esden> dual opteron with 32GB RAM
19:17 < esden> erm ... quad opteron sorry
19:17 < daja77> hmm we should do rock builds on it ^^
19:17 < mnemoc> absolutly
19:17 < esden> hehe ... sure ... I will install rock on it ... do not worry ;)
19:17 < daja77> :)
19:18 < esden> and do compile performance tests ;)
19:20 < daja77> and opteron port ...
19:20  * mnemoc has a p3/766 at home and rocks on a p2/350 :(
19:21 < esden> daja77: ack
19:21 < esden> mnemoc: I use a 1.2 GHz machine for rock at home ...
19:21 < esden> with 512 ram ... that is not so fast ...
19:22 < mnemoc> faster than mine
19:22  * netrunne1 *yawns*
19:22 -!- You're now known as netrunner
19:22 < daja77> wb netrunner 
19:22 < netrunner> esden: poser
19:22 < daja77> netrunner: he has always been one, so don't worry
19:23 < netrunner> daja77: wouldn't have noticed that ;)
19:23 < daja77> ^^
19:23 < esden> netrunner: :P
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19:23 < netrunner> esden: 'still got your key had it with me even today. ask me next time I wear my backpack its in there
19:23 < esden> daja77: hehe ... you are right ;)
19:23 < esden> netrunner: *sigh* I will try ;)
19:24 < netrunner> esden: next chance wednesday
19:26 < esden> netrunner: yes ...
19:30 < esden> ahh ... good now I also have music ;)
19:30 < esden> now ... povray for mac os X
19:31 < daja77> povray, hmm thought i read of build errors ...
19:34 -!- xilanium [~xilanium@d213-103-41-16.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #rocklinux
19:36 < daja77> hi xilanium 
19:36 < esden> xilanium? o_O
19:36 < xilanium> hi
19:37 < esden> ahh ... ups ...the terminal behaves strange ...
19:37 < esden> hi xilanium 
19:38 < daja77> hehe no nice term on apple?
19:42 < daja77> anyway /me off to party now
19:42 < daja77> cu
19:47 < esden> cu daja77 
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19:52 < rxr> re
19:53 < mnemoc> hi rxr
19:57 < esden> hi rxr 
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19:59 < esden> cu all
20:08 < rxr> cu esden 
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20:36 < blindcoder> mplayer is fucked up in rev 1888
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20:49 < tcr> moin all
20:50 < blindcoder> moin moin
20:50 < blindcoder> ah, there's the problem
20:50 < blindcoder> --enable-live breaks mplayer
20:52 < blindcoder> ARGL
20:52 < blindcoder> WTF???
20:52 < blindcoder> this cries for a patch...
21:06 < blindcoder> rxr: ping
21:11 < rxr> pong
21:11 < rxr> blindcoder: avm added this ...
21:12 < rxr> blindcoder: could you take a look what is wrong with it
21:12 < rxr> ?
21:12 < rxr> please
21:14 < blindcoder> rxr: I already sent the patch
21:14 < blindcoder> rxr: could you apply it so that I can use the revision in the next release of LVP?
21:15 < rxr> hm
21:15 < rxr> rene@idefix:~$ du -B 1 /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k
21:15 < rxr> 94208   /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k
21:15 < rxr> rene@idefix:~$ du -B 1 --apparent-size /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k
21:15 < rxr> 153308  /usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot.rs6k
21:15 < rxr> why the heck does this bootloader has sparce holess ?!?!?
21:15 < rxr> blindcoder: yes - sson
21:16 < rxr> soon even
21:16 < blindcoder> rxr: okay *hugs* :)
21:17 < blindcoder> okay, LVP now builds and I am happy :)
21:17 < blindcoder> good night everyone!
21:19 < mnemoc> good night blindcoder 
21:19 < rxr> n8 blindcoder 
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21:40 < rxr> me rsyncing and burning the first RS/6k blessed CD
21:48 < MadTux> rxr: nice :)
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21:50 < rxr> MadTux: I think we will be the first Linux dist with bootable CDs for the rs6k ;-)
21:50 < rxr> I have not found anything for rs6k and cd boot stuff
21:50 < rxr> just floppy creation hints ... ;-)
21:50 < A-Tui> hi all
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21:56 < rxr> hi A-Tui 
21:56 < A-Tui> hi rxr
21:56 < A-Tui> it's snowing :)
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22:31 < xilanium> by looking at the 2.0.0-rc2 ISOs, I'm wondering if the first ISO has got at the necessary stuff to get a minimal system (shell+build chain) to start with ?
22:31  * A-Tui is back (gone 00:25:14)
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22:55 < MadTux> rxr: really nice, i'm proud
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22:59 < rxr> hm - ok just found some strange debian CDs might also boot ...
23:00 < rxr> anyway a RS/6k bootable CD would be nice ...
23:00 < rxr> the current code does not yet work - the OF claims:
23:00 < MadTux> rxr: sure it would
23:00 < rxr> Unable to load PReP image
23:00 < rxr> (which is more then it did some days ago)
23:00 < rxr> now I test with AIX if the B50 should really boot binary code in the form I currenty offer it ...
23:01 < rxr> but shortly off for a bath
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23:05 < puzzled> rxr: thanks anyway for trying to put it together
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23:29 < rxr> puzzled: this is not the end ...
23:29 < rxr> puzzled: I continue this ...
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23:35 < rxr> puzzled: see querry?
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23:53 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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