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--- Log opened Fre Dez 05 00:00:02 2003 00:00 < jsaw> rxr: DONE 00:04 < mnemoc> .fix files are against rl standard :| 00:13 < rxr> ok - me away 00:13 < rxr> I continue with patch merging tomorrow - errr today ... 00:13 < rxr> jsaw: maybe you could fix the one that did not apply 00:14 < rxr> and please do not mix patches with different patchlevel in the future 00:14 < rxr> valentin and I will do a full ROCK Net module during the weekend ... 00:14 < rxr> cu all 00:14 < mnemoc> cu rxr 00:17 < daja77> cu rxr 00:17 < jsaw> what means different patchlevels? 00:18 < jsaw> and why not use .fix ? 00:21 < mnemoc> -p0 00:21 < mnemoc> vs. -p1 00:23 < mnemoc> the rock 'standard' said .patch for autoapply, .diff for other patches 00:24 < mnemoc> xine-ui-0.9.22-fixdoc/doc/README_cs and ./doc/README_cs are -p1 00:24 < mnemoc> doc/README_cs is -p0 00:28 < jsaw> I simply have to much to do. I think I'll concentrate on rockplug after this is thru. 00:29 < daja77> n8 you all 00:29 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 00:31 < mnemoc> jsaw: how much time will take to rockplug bypass hwscan completely? 00:31 < jsaw> mnemoc: it does already. I'm still waiting for rxr to finish isapnp detection. Then I have to speed up the process. 00:33 < mnemoc> great :) 00:34 < jsaw> even my joystick is correctly detected (Task 00:34 < jsaw> #181) 00:34 < mnemoc> :o 00:34 < jsaw> the only problem is: it's a bit slow. 00:41 < mnemoc> but will be 100% operative for 2.0? isn't it? 00:41 < mnemoc> slow but operative 00:41 < jsaw> yep. 00:42 < mnemoc> cool.. i'll update by targets ;) 00:43 < jsaw> get it from https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rockplug/trunk/ 00:45 < mnemoc> question: plug/unplug the network cable does generate 'hotplug events'? 00:46 < jsaw> nope. 00:46 < mnemoc> :( 00:46 < jsaw> there are two projects (sorry forgot the name), that detect cabling, that should be integrated into rocknet sooner or later. 00:51 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit Remote closed the connection 00:51 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 00:55 -!- _spectre_ [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 00:57 -!- _spectre_ [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-151.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 01:39 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:51 -!- echalon [~echalon@bgp477909bgs.summit01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:52 < echalon> hey im new to rocklinux can neone answer a few questions? 01:53 < mnemoc> ask 01:53 < echalon> i was looking at various ways to make a custom distro such as linux from scratch, is this a similar idea? 01:54 < mnemoc> similar but 'mantained', cross platform, and the result is a cd 01:55 < echalon> once u have the basic system installed, its source from there on right? i.e. no "package manager" 01:55 < mnemoc> nope, we have package managment 01:55 < mnemoc> and binary pacakges (.gem) 01:55 < echalon> o 01:55 < mnemoc> the difference with .rpm is that you build them 01:56 < mnemoc> .gem are cleanly updateables 01:56 < echalon> what are some of the packages available? 01:57 < mnemoc> .gem are not publicly downloadeables, you build them from source using rock's toolkit and you can distribute them to your boxes 01:58 < mnemoc> you build rock in one machine to run on another 01:58 < echalon> nice 01:58 < mnemoc> it's a distribution building kit ;) 01:59 < mnemoc> not META s.th nor a book with tips nor a heavily dependant distro and you won't need to wait 2 weeks for a security update =) 01:59 < echalon> : sounds exactly like what i need 02:00 < mnemoc> take a look to the handbook available from our homepage 02:00 < echalon> im in one of my depressions in not finding a distro thats right for me, so i just said might as well build my own so i cant complain :-P 02:00 < echalon> reading now thx 02:01 < mnemoc> we all suffer that before rock :) 02:01 < echalon> should i burn all 3 cds? 02:01 < mnemoc> nope 02:02 < mnemoc> that's an example of what you can build using rock 02:02 < mnemoc> that 'target' is full desktop oriented 02:03 < echalon> o is that the 3 cd set oops 02:03 < mnemoc> you can build a clean rcok subdistro from any devfs based linux 02:03 < mnemoc> without downloading any previous iso 02:04 < mnemoc> of course you can start from a ROCK Desktop 02:04 < mnemoc> but that's not mandatory 02:04 < echalon> im not really experienced in all this source building, should i try making a clean system/ 02:06 < mnemoc> currently to get a clean system you have to build it :( currently we don't have public minimal isos :( 02:07 < mnemoc> but to build it you don't have to build sources.... the toolkit do it for you 02:08 < mnemoc> you 'only' have to prepare (devfs) your system for building rocks 02:08 < mnemoc> well... devfs, curl and subversion 02:08 < echalon> is that covered in the handbook? 02:08 < mnemoc> iirc yes 02:18 < echalon> if i just install the "generic" system w/o building how much freedom is there to expand? 02:19 < mnemoc> the installer will let you choose what to install almost as any normal distro 02:19 < mnemoc> full freedom 02:20 < mnemoc> after installation you can use 'mine' tool for adding or removing pacakges from the cd 02:24 < esden> /join #fedora-devel 02:24 < esden> ups ;) 02:24 < mnemoc> aargh 02:24 < esden> hi all 02:24 < mnemoc> hi esden-PR 02:25 < esden> I was really not willing to type that here 02:25 < esden> I only wanted to go there and check what and if they are saying anything usable ... 02:25 < mnemoc> spy? 02:26 * esden saying nothing ;) 02:26 < mnemoc> =) 02:26 < echalon> mnemoc: lol i was confused till i realized there was a part ii (building) 02:26 < mnemoc> there is always a part ii :) 02:27 * esden getting another soup 02:27 < echalon> is there any easy way to tell if i have devfs support 02:28 < esden> yes mkdir devfs ; mount -t devfs none devfs 02:28 < esden> if it works then you have devfs ;) 02:28 < MadTux> cat /proc/filesystems | grep devfs 02:28 < esden> or that way 02:28 < MadTux> :) 02:29 < MadTux> esden: how are you my brother? 02:29 < esden> very well ... 02:29 < MadTux> glad to hear :) 02:29 < esden> exploring fedora ;) 02:29 < MadTux> echalon: so you have support? :) 02:29 < MadTux> esden: nice, how is it working so far? 02:30 < echalon> madtux: apparently not what area of kernel is it? 02:31 < esden> very nice ... 02:31 < esden> rocklinux could learn a lot from it 02:31 < esden> at least drock 02:32 < esden> or the drock for dummies 02:32 < MadTux> echalon: well in the filesystems are... 02:32 < MadTux> esden: the bootspash detailed screen is quite nice :) 02:32 < mnemoc> any nice image to splash? 02:33 < MadTux> esden: and guess yeah we could learn a bit from it, at least is good to see what others are offering and see if something could be usefull to apply 02:33 < MadTux> mnemoc: i remeber there was a software to conver bmp's to be usable on splash, don't remeber the name though.. 02:34 < esden> we could learn about usability 02:34 < mnemoc> usawhat?? 02:34 < echalon> madtux: the only thing i dont have already in is "/dev file system support (EXPERIMENTAL)" is that it? 02:34 < MadTux> esden: yes. 02:34 < MadTux> echalon: yups 02:34 < esden> for sure also about quality assurance ... I think .. but about that I am not yet sure 02:34 < echalon> madtux: is there a more recent kernel with it better implemented or is experimental the way to go 02:34 < MadTux> echalon: what kernel version are you compiling? 02:35 < echalon> madtux: 2.4.22 but that was for specific reasons should i go to 2.4.23? 02:35 < mnemoc> echalon: devfs will be always experimental 02:35 < MadTux> echalon: experimental is the thing, make sure you also have installed devfsd on your system 02:35 < echalon> madtux: that would be distro specfic not kernel? 02:36 < MadTux> echalon: yups, just make sure you have devfsd installed, else get it if you intend to use devfs 02:36 < mnemoc> echalon: start with subversion and curl, then you can use rcok to build you devfsd 02:36 < echalon> mnemoc: that went straight over my head sry 02:36 < MadTux> echalon: you just svn client, no need to build the whole server thing :) 02:37 < MadTux> echalon: one question what linux distro are you going to use for building rock? 02:37 < echalon> madtux: its called collegelinux its slack 8.1 based 02:37 < mnemoc> MadTux: do u know the url for the static client only svn? 02:37 < echalon> madtux: fully comptaible 02:38 < MadTux> mnemoc: just get the regular subversion source, you can build client from it :) 02:38 < mnemoc> i was asking FOR echalon 02:38 < MadTux> echalon: sounds ok, btw url for this collegeinux distro? 02:38 < MadTux> mnemoc: ah :) 02:38 < echalon> college.ch/linux 02:38 < MadTux> switzerland? 02:39 < echalon> madtux: yeah, funded by a swiss college thus the naem 02:39 < MadTux> cool :) checking out 02:39 < MadTux> brb custommer 02:39 < echalon> 2.5 nearly coming out so id wait :-P 02:40 -!- x33k [manus@conm200-30-77-52.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 02:41 -!- x33k [manus@conm200-30-77-52.epm.net.co] has left #rocklinux [] 02:45 < echalon> mnemoc: just to avoid any probs building with this collegelinux would it be easier just to install a precompiled rock to build with? 02:45 < mnemoc> yep 02:46 < mnemoc> using a rock for building rock is the easier way 02:46 < echalon> mnemoc: generic i guess? 02:46 < mnemoc> generic includes almost everything but you can filter at install time 02:47 < jsaw> gn8 all 02:48 < mnemoc> n8 jsaw 02:48 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit "Client Exiting" 02:52 < MadTux> echalon: maybe you want to try desktop if you just to build your own rock 02:52 < MadTux> or even minimal :) 02:53 < mnemoc> MadTux: will you share a minimal with him? 02:53 < echalon> madtux: actually it'll be nice to see some of the possiblities neway 02:54 < MadTux> mnemoc: i will start a fresh minimal build tomorrow mourning, currently fetching sources 02:54 < echalon> madtux: just in case it seems i dont like ti 02:54 < MadTux> mnemoc: no problem to share it with you once its ready 02:54 < MadTux> echalon: got you. 02:54 < mnemoc> MadTux: thanks :) 02:54 < MadTux> mnemoc: anytime 02:56 < echalon> well i g2g thx for all ur help im sure ill be coming back to bother u later.... 02:57 -!- echalon [~echalon@bgp477909bgs.summit01.nj.comcast.net] has left #rocklinux [] 03:14 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit "leaving" 03:32 -!- jani [~jani@ppp118-108.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:33 < jani> hello all. I'm in the middle of building rock, and one of the packages failed, it was auctex, and I can't seem to find the logs for why it failed, they're not under rock-src-2.0.0-rc2/src.auctex.0923409.20934092.982398 (not the actual numbers on my machine) cos var isn't linked to anything... 03:35 < jani> how do i go about finding the logs, or alternatively get the build script to try rebuilding that package? the build is still going, so I'll wait until it's finished. 03:37 < mnemoc> src.aucte3345734783436/R.src/ERROR_LOG 03:37 < mnemoc> the whole pack of logs are at build/$builddir/root/var/adm/logs 03:38 < jani> mnemoc, yeah, i'd found the build log... 03:38 < mnemoc> if you remove 5-auctex.err file from there the package will try to build again 03:39 < jani> it will build it again when I re-run the Build-Target script? 03:39 < jani> what is the meaning of the following error: 03:39 < jani> !! Symbol's function definition is void ((defadvice)) 03:39 < mnemoc> nop, if you hand remove .err it will rebuild it just after current build-pkg ends 03:39 < mnemoc> jani: no idea o_O 03:40 < mnemoc> how do u got that? 03:40 < jani> that's the only error i find in the ERROR_LOG for auctex... it's repeated numerous times for different functions, and then at the end it says 03:41 < mnemoc> TeX error 03:41 < jani> make: *** [lisp] Error 1 03:41 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/reference/2003-11-12/5-auctex.err 03:42 < mnemoc> do you need that pacakge? 03:42 < jani> no, i don't need the package, but that's exactly what my error log says (except for being built for athlonxp) 03:42 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:43 < jani> mnemoc, so i can ignore it and build my cd's without worrying about the missing package? 03:43 < mnemoc> that's option 1 03:43 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit Client Quit 03:44 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:44 < mnemoc> option 2 is go deeper into auctex-11.13/auc-old.el, patch it, build it and send us your patch to include it :) 03:44 < jani> not yet capable of tracing the error myself or fixing it (don't yet have a fully working rock set up, as this is my first build) 03:45 < mnemoc> that error is TeX related, if you know tex you can fix it ;) 03:45 < jani> i don't know tex, but I have heard of it before :) 03:45 < mnemoc> if not you will have to wait until somebody else do it 03:46 < mnemoc> so skip it ;) 03:46 < mnemoc> the important error are on stages <= 3 03:47 < mnemoc> errors after that can slmost always being skiped 03:48 < jani> ok. do you know offhand if there's any way to find out what order the desktop packages are being built in? I wouldn't mind working out how far my machine has gone, and roughly how much time there is left 03:48 < mnemoc> config/$config/packages 03:49 < mnemoc> that's the order and stages of every package 03:49 < mnemoc> you are building the lines starting with X 03:52 < jani> cool, thanks, found it, ... hmm... pages and pages to go :) 03:52 < mnemoc> good luck ;( 03:52 < mnemoc> mmm 03:52 < mnemoc> ;) <--- fix 03:52 < jani> yeah... 500 packages to go roughly 03:53 < jani> well, minus the ones with 0's in front of them 03:53 < mnemoc> grep -e "^X" config/$config/packages | less 03:53 < mnemoc> replace less with 'wc -l' to count them 03:54 < jani> thanks. I'll have to learn those fancy ways to use grep one of these days 03:55 < mnemoc> grep is your friend :) 03:56 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M287P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:57 -!- nookie [~nookie@M277P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Connection timed out 04:29 -!- cytrinox`- [~cytrinox@p213.54.225.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:49 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.250.159.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:46 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2iverob.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 05:46 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2iverob.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit Client Quit 06:09 < owl> moin 06:42 < MadTux> hi owlita 06:45 < owl> hi MadTux 06:46 < owl> how are you? 06:46 < MadTux> great and you dear? 06:47 < MadTux> owl: still in pain? 06:47 < owl> not so good. thx 06:47 < owl> yeah. will take about 2 - 3 weeks - at least 06:47 < MadTux> oh I'm sorry to hear that 06:47 < MadTux> owl: hwo is true doing? 06:48 < owl> thx. he's well. can walk much better than me *g* 06:48 < owl> the funny thing is: first he had to use crutches, now i have to use them :p 06:51 < MadTux> owl: send him my greetings 06:52 < owl> oki. thx. i will do 06:58 < owl> .oO(christmas-shopping done *g*) 06:58 < MadTux> owl: got my gift? 06:58 < MadTux> :) 06:58 < owl> hehe. nah :p 06:58 < MadTux> :((( 06:58 < owl> poor boy :p 06:59 < MadTux> =*( 06:59 < owl> <- got true's presents... - still have to wait till it's delivered... 07:08 < nookie_> morning :) 07:09 < nookie_> Hi MadTux :) 07:09 < nookie_> Hi owl :) 07:09 < owl> hi nookie_ 07:11 < MadTux> hi little n00kie 07:11 < nookie_> :) 07:11 < nookie_> gnah, school now 07:20 < owl> hehe. enjoy it *vbeg* 07:21 < MadTux> owl: you are evil 07:21 < owl> hihi. yeah 07:22 < MadTux> i like that :) 07:22 < owl> MadTux: but - i guess i'm allowed to be. i'm at work the first time since tuesday again... 07:22 < owl> y? ;) 07:22 < MadTux> i see 07:22 < MadTux> owl: guess i am the same way :) 07:22 < owl> hehe ;) 07:44 < blindcoder> moin 07:46 < owl> hi blindy 07:47 < MadTux> hi blindy 07:51 < blindcoder> hmm... can't anyone do some athlon builds? 07:52 < blindcoder> I might even be able to do _all_ Pentium builds here 07:54 < MadTux> blindcoder: /me is making athlon builds... 07:54 < blindcoder> MadTux: when will you arrive at 20C3? 08:01 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080232A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:01 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 08:01 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 08:01 [Users #rocklinux] 08:01 [ [anders] ] [ clifford ] [ Freak ] [ mistik1 ] [ nookie_] [ SMP ] 08:01 [ _spectre_ ] [ cytrinox`-] [ huebi ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ snyke ] 08:01 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ jani ] [ Nebukadneza] [ praenti] [ th ] 08:01 [ aszlig_ ] [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netrunne1 ] [ rolla ] [ true ] 08:01 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ MadTux] [ netrunner ] [ rxr ] [ WrKRobe] 08:01 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 30 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal] 08:01 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 08:01 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 08:02 < blindcoder> back 08:02 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 08:02 < MadTux> blindcoder: so if i things really work to get there i can take isos for athlon and athlon xp 08:03 < blindcoder> MadTux: that would be great 08:03 < blindcoder> which ones exactly? 08:04 < MadTux> blindcoder: then again i fighting to get space to fly 08:04 < MadTux> blindy all required 08:04 < blindcoder> MadTux: no passenger-flight availabe? 08:05 < MadTux> no seats on passenger flights available yet :( 08:05 < blindcoder> urgs 08:05 < MadTux> blindcoder: heard the bad news today.. still thet asked to keep calling 08:05 < MadTux> we will see 08:05 * MadTux really wants to be at 20c3 08:05 * blindcoder really want MadTux to be at 20C3 08:06 < MadTux> blindcoder: for the isos? 08:06 < blindcoder> no, for you 08:07 < MadTux> danke :) 08:12 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802446.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 08:14 < blindcoder> cool, finally the new dns-name for lvp works :) 08:14 < blindcoder> still something to do about the content, though :) 08:21 < blindcoder> https://lvp.crash-override.net/ <--- comments please 08:21 * MadTux shutting down, be back in some hours 08:21 < blindcoder> (other than some dead links in the documentation section :) 08:21 < blindcoder> MadTux: good night! 08:22 < MadTux> blindcoder: not sleep, reinstalling server 08:22 < MadTux> blindcoder: :) 08:22 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 09:11 < blindcoder> daja77: I didn't mail schily, but cdrecord-proDVD is still the only DVD-Recording software that works here 09:11 < blindcoder> daja77: DVDs written with the patched cdrecord are unmountable and unusable 10:07 < blindcoder> *yawn* 10:12 < jani> kdelibs31 just took an hour and 20 minutes to compile, and i've still got a few hundred packages to go :( 10:12 < blindcoder> yes, that's normal 10:12 < blindcoder> there are a few more kde-packages that take an hour or so to build 10:13 < jani> yeah, but i'm impatient to install it and play with it 10:13 < blindcoder> I know how you feel :) 10:13 < jani> is it very difficult to create build scripts for stuff that isn't already in rock 10:13 < jani> ? 10:14 < jani> maybe i could go read the documentation while i'm waiting 10:14 < blindcoder> no, that's actually quite easy 10:14 < jani> the handbook seems to skim over that sort of stuff. 10:14 < blindcoder> if the package uses autoconf and automake you usually don't have to write a conf file at all 10:15 < blindcoder> wtf is "Wiener Melange"? 10:21 < jani> something to do with sausages probably... isn't wiener a german sausage? 10:22 < blindcoder> yes, but I doubt that it's that... I found that tag on a coffee-machine here but wasn't brave enough to try it :) 10:24 < blindcoder> and the only things I found about that is some music things, some news about an austrian TV-Channel and a some theaters 10:32 < blindcoder> okay, it's hot chocolate with coffee 10:46 -!- owl is now known as kleines_arschloc 10:46 -!- kleines_arschloc is now known as kleinesArschloch 10:47 < kleinesArschloch> this stupid, dammned, grey-hair-wearing bitch!!! i HATE her!!! 10:48 < blindcoder> I see 10:49 < kleinesArschloch> hah. enough money for razor blades 10:49 < kleinesArschloch> GOOOOOOOD 10:51 < blindcoder> bye 10:51 < kleinesArschloch> bye? 10:53 < blindcoder> well, you go and buy razorblades now, don't you? 10:54 < kleinesArschloch> i do. if my magen is in mood for moving. and i can stop the tears almost falling down. 10:54 < blindcoder> can you bring me a set of Mach 3 blades? I'm running low on them 10:54 < kleinesArschloch> no 10:55 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 10:55 < MadTux> re 10:55 < kleinesArschloch> so. now i go and get my razor blades. 10:55 < kleinesArschloch> bye 10:55 -!- kleinesArschloch [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit "DYING. now finally" 10:57 < blindcoder> wb MadTux 10:57 < blindcoder> guess we won't see her at 20C3 then :) 10:58 * blindcoder gone, last test with red crap 10:59 < MadTux> what red crap? 11:10 -!- sten [~sten@d64-180-15-47.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 < sten> how engrained is devfs in Rock 2.0? I heard that devfs is depreciated for Linux-2.6 11:16 -!- kleinesArschloch [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:16 < kleinesArschloch> re 11:16 -!- kleinesArschloch [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit Client Quit 11:16 -!- kleinesArschloch [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:23 < daja77> O_o 11:23 < kleinesArschloch> daja77: ? 11:24 < daja77> oh you are still here 11:24 < daja77> moin owl 11:24 < daja77> blindcoder: you said you mailed him for a key and for asking him if you are allowed to distribute dvds at 20c3 11:24 < MadTux> hi daja77 11:24 < MadTux> owly 11:25 < daja77> hi MadTux 11:25 < kleinesArschloch> still here? why still? i just went to the apotheke and got some mullbinden and to the schlecker and got some razor blades 11:25 < kleinesArschloch> MadTuxy? 11:25 < daja77> you work-a-holic 11:25 < MadTux> owly just greeting you 11:25 * daja77 me wondering if owl wants to shave 11:25 < kleinesArschloch> ah so. k. 11:25 < MadTux> who is a work-a-holic? 11:25 < daja77> you 11:25 < MadTux> ich?!?! 11:26 < daja77> yes 11:26 < MadTux> how could you say something like that? What proves do you have? 11:26 < kleinesArschloch> daja77: guess you can think it 11:26 < netrunne1> moin 11:26 < daja77> MadTux: backlog ^^ 11:26 -!- You're now known as netrunner 11:26 < daja77> moin netrunner 11:27 < MadTux> hi netrunner 11:27 < MadTux> daja77: welll :)... i though you liked me to hang around here 11:27 < kleinesArschloch> hi netrunner 11:27 * netrunner still wonders why linux24 tries to apply /usr/src/rock-linux/download/base/linux24//usr/src/rock-linux/download/base/linux24/avm/bootsplash/bootsplash-3.0.7-2.4.22-vanilla.diff 11:29 < netrunner> these log entries ... 11:29 < netrunner> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11:29 < netrunner> rev 946: rene | 2003-07-31 14:18:02 +0200 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003) | 2 lines 11:29 < netrunner> hm 11:29 < netrunner> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11:29 < netrunner> rev 943: rene | 2003-07-31 14:13:41 +0200 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003) | 2 lines 11:29 < netrunner> oO 11:30 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has quit "Client exiting" 11:33 < sten> how engrained is devfs in Rock 2.0? I heard that devfs is depreciated for Linux-2.6 11:33 < netrunner> sten: in 2.0 devfs is a must, in 2.1 you can choose 11:36 < sten> netrunner: ah, that's right, linux-2.6 still provides a [depreciated] devfs. Do you think 2.0-final will be ready by Christmas? 11:38 < blindcoder> grub sucks 11:38 < MadTux> blindy? 11:38 < blindcoder> pxegrub expects to find the path to its menu.lst in dhcp-option 150 11:38 < blindcoder> but it doesn't request it! 11:38 < blindcoder> so you have to tell the dhcp-daemon to send that value no matter if it was requested or not! 11:38 < MadTux> 2.0-final for xmast ... it would be the greatest gift for xmast.. but i doub it will happen 11:39 < blindcoder> *ARGH* 11:39 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi, sbtw 11:39 < MadTux> blindcoder: mm.. 11:39 < blindcoder> daja77: I intend to, but haven't done so yet 11:40 < daja77> ic 11:40 < blindcoder> daja77: maybe I even won't do it since the license states non-commericial use 11:40 < blindcoder> daja77: and since I give it away for the price of a DVD-R it would fall into the scope of the license 11:41 -!- nookie [~nookie@M327P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:42 < blindcoder> IANAL, so I have to interpret the license as I see fit 11:43 < daja77> well if he doesn't sue you, this will not be a problem, jsut thought you need a license key to burn without limitations 11:45 < blindcoder> there is a free license key availabe, just a moment 11:45 < netrunner> sten: I hope ;) 11:46 < kleinesArschloch> someone knows the german "ausbildungsgesetze"? 11:47 < sten> Out of curiousity, is KDE31 compiled against QT-3.1 [as oppposed to 3.2] for stability reasons? 11:47 < blindcoder> daja77: "private non-commercial use" 11:47 < netrunner> hm, $archdir should point to the download/ ? why does it point to download/base/linux24 during a kernel build? 11:48 < blindcoder> netrunner: because that's where this poackages sources are? 11:49 < netrunner> blindcoder: so how should I point to my patch? :/ 11:49 < blindcoder> netrunner: $archdir/mypatch.patch 11:50 < blindcoder> netrunner: or what do you mean? 11:50 -!- kleinesArschloch [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ["dying"] 11:50 < blindcoder> netrunner: I used var_append patchfiles " " "${base}/package/blindcoder/lpp/kernel.patch" 11:50 < blindcoder> I think that's what you meant 11:51 < netrunner> blindcoder: ah, I had that before. I wonder why I changed that 11:55 < blindcoder> brb 11:57 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M287P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 12:42 * netrunner building 2.4.23 with bootsplash. 12:43 < netrunner> ROCK is the first to produce 2.4.23 bootsplash kernel :) 12:43 < MadTux> netrunner: :) 12:46 < netrunner> package build finished ;) 12:46 * blindcoder back 12:47 < MadTux> netrunner: _nice_ 12:47 < blindcoder> netrunner: so, can you take the three Athlon MP builds? 12:50 < netrunner> blindcoder: yes. may I include bootsplash? ;) 12:51 < blindcoder> netrunner: please not, I want to have vanilla-builds (ie: rene's tree= 12:52 < blindcoder> netrunner: can you please name the configs generic_athlonmp desktop_athlonmp and minimal_athlonmp ? 12:52 < MadTux> blindcoder: lets set a specific src to be used to all of us 12:52 < netrunner> blindcoder: ok, then I submit a bootsplash package for the official HEAD ;) 12:52 < blindcoder> MadTux: rene's most up-to-date tree 12:52 < blindcoder> netrunner: please, don't... this can really wait until 2.0.1 or 2.1 12:53 < blindcoder> MadTux: using scripts/Create-ErrList -newdelete one can update the build tree then anyway 12:53 < MadTux> blindcoder: mm ok 12:53 < netrunner> blindcoder: that does not always work fine. 12:54 < netrunner> blindcoder: it does not rebuild depending packages 12:54 < blindcoder> MadTux: can you please also follow that naming scheme? ie {target}_{optimisation]? 12:55 < blindcoder> netrunner: aside from statically linked packages that usually doesn't impose any problems 12:55 < blindcoder> netrunner: the problem is: If we wait until 2.0-final we may not be ready with the builds until 20C3 12:55 < blindcoder> I have a samll compile-farm on my Hand starting at Dec 20 but they are all Intel 12:55 < blindcoder> so I can't make any Athlon things 12:56 < MadTux> blindcoder: ok, just spect some bugging fro9m me, i'm kinda outdate with a lot of stuff 12:57 < blindcoder> MadTux: great, thanks :) 12:57 < blindcoder> I'll send an updated list to rock-linux-ml 12:57 < MadTux> blindcoder: good 13:04 < sten> Out of curiousity, is KDE31 compiled against QT-3.1 [as oppposed to 3.2] for stability reasons? 13:08 < blindcoder> sten: no idea, I haven't looked at the kde32 branch yet 13:08 < SMP> I thought qt-3.2 was not supported for kde 3.1? 13:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: let's all start with the same rev. We can still update that on the congress. 13:10 < sten> I'm currently using qt-3.2.1, with kde-3.1.4 on Slackware. I've noticed that it's terribly unstable. I was wondering if the reason Rock is still using qt-3.1.x with kde-3.1.x, is because of these issues 13:11 < sten> apparently many of the changes from kde-3.1.3 to 3.1.4 were compile fixes, so that it would build against qt-3.2.x 13:12 < sten> to my knowledge, Rock is the only distro which builds kde-3.1.4 against qt-3.1.x (which makes sense to me) 13:14 < blindcoder> netrunner: current is 1902, so I'd say use this 13:15 < netrunner> blindcoder: but I won't start today 13:15 < netrunner> blindcoder: let's use the date you mentioned, 201203 13:15 < blindcoder> oh, 1915 13:15 < blindcoder> sorry 13:15 < blindcoder> netrunner: okay 13:15 < netrunner> I guess I can handle a desktop and a generic in that time. 13:15 < blindcoder> netrunner, MadTux: I'll send you a mail on Dec20 with the revision number 13:16 < blindcoder> netrunner: minimal can also be done on 20C3 on the first day, it doesn't take that long 13:17 < MadTux> blindcoder: ack. 13:17 < netrunner> blindcoder: I'll bring my build machine. it has a fddi card, so we can supply downloads with nice bw on the congress ;) 13:18 < MadTux> blindcoder: make sure you make a whole description of the naming thing, plus revission, and more or less the standards you have in mind for us to follow 13:19 < blindcoder> MadTux: I'll pre-create the whole config/* and supply it as download 13:19 < MadTux> blindcoder: sounds good, thanks. 13:20 < MadTux> blindcoder: so anyways just keep me posted ok? :) 13:20 < blindcoder> MadTux: I have to thank you, because it was my idea and you're supporting me :) 13:20 < th> hi MadTux \ 13:20 < blindcoder> MadTux: sure I will :) 13:20 < netrunner> oh my god, they killed blindy! 13:20 < MadTux> blindcoder: nothing to thank :) 13:20 < MadTux> hi Tobias :) 13:21 * MadTux having breakfast 13:21 < netrunner> huh? on my build server there is a task sierpinski3d running at 40% cpu load 13:21 < th> netrunner: sounds like screensaver 13:22 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 13:24 < blindcoder> definately screensaver 13:24 < netrunner> omg. 13:24 < blindcoder> netrunner: left your X running, huh? 13:25 < netrunner> blindcoder: obviously ;) 13:25 < netrunner> kill is my friend 13:26 < blindcoder> I wonder when kill will be marked as politically incorrect (see Master/Slave) 13:27 < netrunner> blindcoder: sysadmins kill. but it's illegal to say they are murderers. 13:27 < blindcoder> netrunner: hehe, sounds nice :) 13:32 * netrunner feels brave and goes to the lecture 13:33 < sten> should I contact rxr for more information regarding Rock's implementation of KDE? 13:34 < blindcoder> sten: that would probably be the best, he's been taking care of the whole kde-thingie 13:36 < sten> blindcoder: thanks. 13:36 -!- sten [~sten@d64-180-15-47.bchsia.telus.net] has quit "Off to study for an English final..." 13:40 < mnemoc> re 13:46 < blindcoder> hi mnemoc 13:46 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder 14:00 < jani> hello again... just wondering, where are the docs for rockplug and hwscan? 14:01 < jani> i'm trying to work out what the difference is, and how to go about configuring them 14:04 < mnemoc> /usr/share/doc/{rockplug,hwscan} 14:04 < mnemoc> try to use rockplug 14:04 < jani> ok, will do. is it compatible with 2.6 kernels? 14:05 < jani> i guess it must be 14:06 < mnemoc> sure it is :) 14:07 < jani> hmmm... the docs aren't there, ... this is only a build system installed from the rc-2 generic iso's. i guess i'll have to wait until my build is finished 14:07 < jani> and i install a new system 14:08 < mnemoc> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rockplug/trunk/README 14:09 < jani> thanks, will read that now 14:10 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD95028AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 < daja77> cool will try bootsplash too 14:26 < Aard> bootsplash? how can I get the graphics on all consoles, not only the initiol? :) 14:26 < mnemoc> daja77: hi... you never answer if you like or not my sculping dwarf poster idea :( 14:26 < mnemoc> Aard: at boot you only have /dev/console ;) 14:28 < Aard> mnemoc: iirc the current suse uses colored consoles everywhere. seen that last week in the server room 14:29 < mnemoc> o_O 14:30 < mnemoc> fb? 14:31 * mnemoc never seen suse :( 14:31 < Aard> I dont know how they did it, but it looked like an extensieo of bootsplash (that suse-console with thick borders). at least it uses the bootsplash themes 14:32 < Aard> mnemoc: you didn't miss anything... 14:32 < blindcoder> Aard: as far as I understood bootsplash you will have it on all consoles 14:33 < Aard> blindcoder: patched mit 2.6.0-test 11 yesterday and had it only on the initial console. 14:33 < daja77> mnemoc: :)) well the idea is not bad 14:34 < Aard> I don,t know how it is with 2.4, I don,t have one laying around here 14:34 < daja77> guess suse made their own patches 14:34 < Aard> daja77: the bootsplash patches are written by a suse employee 14:34 < mnemoc> if they are GPL.... 14:34 < daja77> ah interesting 14:35 < daja77> btw hi Aard :) 14:35 < Aard> hi daja77 :) 14:35 < blindcoder> Aard: netrunner fscked around with that thing, maybe he knows more 14:35 < netrunner> suse uses bootsplash, yes. the patches lie on their server. (I just sent them one for the actual kernel ;) 14:35 < netrunner> you add the image to the initrd. 14:36 < netrunner> sorry, was asleep in the lecture ;) 14:36 < daja77> shame on you *ggg* 14:36 < Aard> netrunner: that stuff works. I only want to see stupid images on all gonsoles 14:36 < daja77> <- lecture sleeper 14:37 < netrunner> Aard: ah,have you used my package? 14:38 < blindcoder> and why did you wake up? shame on you! 14:38 < Aard> netrunner: your what? :) 14:38 < mnemoc> daja77 snoring on a lecture? 14:38 < netrunner> Aard: bootsplash is for the kernel messages. you do not have multiple consoles until then. 14:39 < netrunner> blindcoder: music started outside. I've seen a bmw 7 driving into the main hall before ... 14:39 < netrunner> Aard: I made a package for ROCK with bootsplash. 14:39 < Aard> netrunner: ok, but in curront suse there seems to be away to apply the bootsplashtheme to all consoles 14:39 < netrunner> Aard: that must be sth else, like a fbtty. 14:40 < Aard> netrunner: do you have something like this working? 14:40 < Aard> .oO( seems that I have to borrow the current SuSE ) 14:41 < mnemoc> Toralds =) lol 14:41 < netrunner> Aard: https://www.google.de/search?q=cache:E-q282sQM_sJ:archlinux.veloxis.de/howtos/bootsplash/US/arch-bootsplash-howto_us.html+framebuffer+console+theme&hl=de&ie=UTF-8 14:41 < netrunner> google is your friend :) 14:41 < mnemoc> ms google? 14:41 < daja77> mnemoc: dunno can't hear me snoring ^^ 14:41 < netrunner> Aard: I'll add that to my package, but for your interest. and thx for the hint :) 14:42 < daja77> ahen netrunner that is 14:42 < mnemoc> two year ago a teacher wake me up :( 14:43 < daja77> hehe, once a teacher told the others to be more quiet cos i slept 14:43 < blindcoder> mnemoc: and you slapped him? :) 14:43 < mnemoc> was a she :\ 14:44 < Aard> it works :) 14:44 < blindcoder> "if the people in the first row would play their games as quiet as the people who read books in the second row, then the people in the third row could at least sleep well." 14:44 < blindcoder> mnemoc: hit her anyway 14:44 < daja77> .oO blindy is violent 14:45 < blindcoder> daja77: nah, just in a really bad modd when I get woken up 14:45 * daja77 notes to never wake blindy up, execpt with long distance weapons 14:46 < Aard> but one should not choose the default bootsplash theme since it sets console backround to silentjpeg, which is than a little bit more foreground... 14:47 < netrunner> oh, lecture accidently ended. /me fetching coffee 14:49 < blindcoder> daja77: you may also wake me up if there is imminent danger approaching (such as lawyers, Girlfriends, power outages or burning hardware :) 14:50 < daja77> guess i like that order 14:52 < blindcoder> well... maybe not because of a power outage because there's nothing else to do than sleeping then anyway :) 14:53 < rolla> re 14:53 < mnemoc> wb rolla 14:53 < rolla> :) 14:54 < blindcoder> hi rolla 14:55 * netrunner ordered a new printer today 14:56 < blindcoder> I think about bringing mine, so we can print some ASCII Art banners :D 15:02 < netrunner> blindcoder: bring the beamer. 15:05 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... I will try 15:06 < daja77> anybody has the video fake & clifford made? 15:06 < blindcoder> which video? 15:06 < blindcoder> whaj video, rather 15:06 < blindcoder> what 15:06 < blindcoder> argl 15:06 < daja77> rocklinux video 15:07 < daja77> they showed it on the devmeeting 15:08 < netrunner> they made it at the camp. 15:14 * rolla smiles 15:20 * netrunner yawns 15:20 < daja77> hey that is rolla's job 15:21 * blindcoder falls asleep 15:21 < daja77> yeah the weather is made for sleeping 15:22 < mnemoc> too cold there? 15:22 < daja77> foggy anbd dark 15:22 < mnemoc> happy day 15:23 < rolla> daja77: the weather is same here 15:23 < blindcoder> the weather here seems almost non-existant 15:24 < daja77> oh good, so i don't have to move 15:24 < blindcoder> no sky, no wind, no rain, just plain cold 15:24 * netrunner looks through the window and sees plain gray 15:24 < daja77> yep 15:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-117.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 15:26 < blindcoder> ah, what the fuck, I'm going home now 15:26 < blindcoder> bye! 15:28 < daja77> cu blindcoder 15:36 < netrunner> wtf...now the patch is applied twice! 15:36 -!- greb [greb@pD950E1DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:37 < greb> hi, why did you remove "ifconfig" in rc2? 15:37 < daja77> greb: hi, this is a known bug, the package containing ifconfig did not build correctly that's why it is missing 15:38 < daja77> rxr: i'd be good if we open up a known bug section to each release? what do you think? 15:38 < netrunner> greb: you can use ip for the same purpose 15:38 < greb> ahh, ok 15:38 < daja77> netrunner: not if he needs dhclient 15:38 < greb> in which package is ifconfig included 15:38 < greb> i need dhclient 15:38 < daja77> net-tools 15:39 < greb> i'll try to rebuild 15:39 < mnemoc> any voluntier to rewrite dhclient for ip? 15:40 < Aard> has anyone played with replicating network file systems? 15:41 < daja77> greb: you can grab the package from here https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/x86/pkgs/net-tools-1.60.gem 15:41 * daja77 once played with openafs 15:41 * netrunner too 15:42 * netrunner -> home 15:42 < daja77> cu netrunner 15:42 < Aard> does it work? I want to share mi local ~ with my notebook 15:42 < mnemoc> why the hell dosemu considers my system is a.out instead of elf???!! 15:42 < daja77> disconnected operation not supported yet 15:43 < mnemoc> code does 15:43 < mnemoc> coda 15:43 < daja77> yep coda lacks other things afaik 15:43 < mnemoc> nobody is perfect 15:45 < Aard> iirc the codafs homepage states somthing like `do not uso coda if you don't want to loose your data' 15:46 < mnemoc> ehmm 15:47 < mnemoc> AAAAAARG!!! 15:47 < Aard> ? 15:47 < daja77> mnemoc: ? 15:47 < mnemoc> echo x gtk-sharp > config/mono/pkgsel 15:47 < mnemoc> i loose my whole fscking pkgsel 15:48 < daja77> d'oh 15:48 < daja77> rxr: can have a typo3 typo fixing account too? 15:50 -!- greb [greb@pD950E1DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit 16:35 < netrunner> Aard: I use unison for syncing. 16:36 < Aard> netrunner: ? 16:36 < netrunner> Aard: 15:42 < Aard> does it work? I want to share mi local ~ with my notebook 16:37 < netrunner> I mean, instead of a replicated fs :) 16:45 < Aard> netrunner: looks nice. can it _really_ handle changes on both filesystems? 16:53 < SMP> Aard: Intermezzo? 16:55 < Aard> SMP: unison 16:56 < SMP> no, I meant you might give Intermezzo a look 16:56 < Aard> SMP: ah. I think I'll try unison first, it seems to be the easiest solution 17:02 < netrunner> Aard: yes. you have to decide which version to use if you changed on both sides. otherwise he checkes which version is newer. 17:02 < netrunner> Aard: and unison uses ssh :) 17:03 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F3BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:03 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F5DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 17:03 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 17:09 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F483.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F3BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 17:10 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 17:21 < Aard> netrunner: i like it :) 17:31 < mnemoc> can libxslt be built with libxml2? 17:31 -!- _spectre_ [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 17:31 -!- spectre [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:32 < mnemoc> i mean libxml2-only 17:33 < mnemoc> let's test 17:33 < mnemoc> bbl 18:04 -!- spectre [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Nick collision from services. 18:04 -!- _spectre_ [~bodo@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 < Aard> *waiting* 18:06 < daja77> ? 18:16 < Aard> netrunner: how big is your home? ;) 18:24 < netrunner> Aard: about 77 square metres ;) 18:24 < Aard> netrunner: *patsch* 18:24 < Aard> how big / how long does the sync take? 18:26 < netrunner> Aard: I only sync parts of it. like stuff for the varsity and so on. the second sync run is quite fast, some seconds to get the changes from the server, and than syncing depending on the connection speed 18:26 < Aard> netrunner: you mean, i have to wati only once over half an hour? 18:28 < netrunner> Aard: the first time it creates the same situation on every side. from then, you only copy the changed files. 18:28 < netrunner> Aard: if you sync a dir that is not existend in the beginning, it has to be copied completely. 18:28 < Aard> netrunner: it's not the copying, it's the changes. 18:28 < netrunner> Aard: also, if you sync a dir that has not been synced from this machine, he has to create it's database, that takes a bit longer. 18:28 < Aard> `waiting for changes from server' -- and there is currently no network traffic 18:29 < netrunner> Aard: and, is the server computing? should have a unison process doing something. 18:29 < Aard> squirrel:/usr/src/unison-2.9.1# ps ax | grep unison 18:29 < Aard> 19662 ? D 1:47 unison -server 18:29 < Aard> 19670 ? D 1:24 unison -server 18:30 < netrunner> Aard: the first time it has to create it's db. this is probably what it is doing now. 18:31 < netrunner> Aard: I have only used a dir up to a gb ... you'll see if it likes more ;) 18:31 < Aard> my ~ is currently 4.9G, after some cleanup. server is a pII-350 18:35 < netrunner> Aard: you'll see :) 18:35 * netrunner away 18:37 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 18:40 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:40 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F483.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 18:40 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 18:50 -!- nookie [~nookie@M327P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit "Lost terminal" 19:08 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FA6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F836.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 19:08 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:13 -!- cytrinox`- is now known as cytrinox 19:14 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p508015D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:14 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FA6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 19:14 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:35 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F159.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508015D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 19:35 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:37 < Aard> ah, sync started 19:41 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p5080156A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F159.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 19:42 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:55 < Aard> hm. getting the changes before syncing still takes loooong 20:49 * rolla yawns 20:52 < mnemoc> hi sleepy rolla 20:57 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 21:08 < esden> hi all 21:12 < rolla> hallo esden 21:12 < esden> hi rolla 21:17 < esden> hmm ... it looks like the fedora guys are doing nothing all the day ... very interesting ;) I see no devel talk in their devel channel at all 21:17 < esden> here it has at least a little percentage ;) 21:26 < mnemoc> =) 21:26 < mnemoc> i need an statitic of how many lines are greetings here 21:27 < esden> a lawyer, an accountant and a physicist are discussing, over a beer, whether life is better with a wife or with a girlfriend. 21:27 < esden> "Awife is better," declares the lawyer, "because of the family support and the help she"ll be to your career." 21:28 < esden> "Nonsense," says the accountant. "A girlfriend is better: you can keep your independance and go out with your friends more." 21:29 < esden> They turn to the physicist, who says, "it's better to have both. That way, the wife thinks you're with the firlfriend, the firlfriend thinks you"re with the wife, and meanwhile you can be down the lab!" 21:29 < mnemoc> o_O 21:29 < esden> firlfriend=girlfriend 21:30 < esden> typing blind sux 21:30 < mnemoc> why blind? 21:30 < blindcoder> geting one of each firts would be a good start IMO 21:30 < esden> blindcoder: rofl 21:31 < daja77> rofl 21:51 < daja77> esden: you had a look at he fedora paper ^^ 21:51 < daja77> the 21:56 * blindcoder bed 22:02 < daja77> n8 blindy 22:13 < daja77> rofl https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,277022,00.html 22:17 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 22:17 < LocalHero> Hi all 22:18 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < daja77> hi LocalHero 22:19 < LocalHero> daja77: How are you today? 22:20 < daja77> quite ok 22:23 -!- elon [~moep2k@pD9E75D68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 < LocalHero> rxr, you there? 22:27 < mnemoc> re 22:27 < daja77> wb mnemoc 22:31 < mnemoc> i'm melting :-\ 22:31 < daja77> hm? 22:31 < mnemoc> it's too hot here ;) 22:33 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit "Client exiting" 22:34 < daja77> hot, nice, wanna come here? 22:36 < mnemoc> :) 22:45 < mnemoc> i have drunk 5lt of water today 22:46 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 < esden> sigh 22:47 < esden> doing backups is so long ... 22:47 < esden> and boring 22:49 * netrunner online via hscsd 22:49 < A-Tui> hi all 22:49 < mnemoc> hi A-Tui 22:49 < A-Tui> hola mnemoc 22:50 * esden online via hardlink or so ... 22:51 < netrunner> hm, rather expensive this way 22:51 * netrunner off again ;) 22:55 < esden> netrunner: not really ... I do not pay anything for that ;) 22:56 < esden> and still download rates of several mb/s ... without proxy fluff that I have at stusta 22:56 < esden> hmm ... would it be feasable to run rocklinux compiles in vmware? 22:57 * esden going to install vmware in the room one door beside and starting rocklinux iso download 23:13 < esden> ok ... vmware installed 23:16 < esden> humm ... is this channel dead? o_O 23:16 < mnemoc> why? 23:20 < esden> because noone is saying anything 23:20 < mnemoc> it's plenty of fun, conversation and mail-list traffic 23:21 < esden> o_O 23:24 < mnemoc> happy happy joy joy 23:26 < esden> hrm ... I really would like to know what you want to say... but sadly you are delivering too small amount of information to acheve that gole ... ;) 23:28 < mnemoc> =) /me bored as hell 23:28 < esden> then do something ... there are lot's of things one can do! 23:28 < mnemoc> happy happy joy joy is what ren from ren&stimpy said when he is happy :) 23:29 < esden> aaaaaha 23:29 < mnemoc> i'm coding, but it's too hot for mental work :| 23:29 < esden> too hot? o_O 23:29 < esden> my godness ... 23:29 < esden> I only have to open the window and I freeze 23:30 < esden> thank god there is heating in this room 23:30 < mnemoc> https://www.bitstorm.org/happyjoy/ 23:32 < esden> "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!" 23:32 < esden> rofl 23:32 < mnemoc> you can listen it (real player) 23:35 < esden> I have no real player at hand :( 23:35 < esden> weeee the backup tool is really working!!!! 23:35 < esden> thank god! 23:36 < mnemoc> do you have flash support? 23:38 < esden> I should have it somewhere ... why? 23:40 < mnemoc> i'm trying to found any happy happy joy joy song on mp3 23:42 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-117.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 23:56 < esden> mnemoc: thanks ;) --- Log closed Sam Dez 06 00:00:21 2003