--- Log opened Mon Dez 08 00:00:56 2003
00:05 < netrunner> bg: ich kann dir leider keinen fertigen build anbieten mangels hardware :/ 
00:05 < netrunner> oerks
00:06 < jsaw> :)
00:08 < netrunner> jsaw: you've got a 64bit build lying around? ;)
00:09 < jsaw> netrunner: look into the config file fs/Config.in:
00:09 < jsaw> # For some reason devfs corrupts memory badly on x86-64. Disable it 
00:09 < jsaw> # for now.
00:09 < jsaw> if [ "$CONFIG_X86_64" != "y" ] ; then
00:09 < jsaw> :(
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00:14 < netrunner> n8
00:15 < jsaw> cu!
00:15 < jsaw> hi nookie , Robe 
00:15 < Robe> hi
00:17 < cytrinox`-> gn8
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04:45 < rolla> re
04:48 < rolla> crap
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04:53 < cchamilt> blindcoder:?
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08:08 [ [anders]  ] [ cchamilt   ] [ huebi  ] [ mnemoc      ] [ nookie ] [ snyke  ] 
08:08 [ _spectre_ ] [ ChristianQt] [ jani_  ] [ Nebukadneza`] [ praenti] [ th     ] 
08:08 [ Aard      ] [ daja77     ] [ jsaw   ] [ netcrow     ] [ rolla  ] [ true   ] 
08:08 [ aszlig_   ] [ fake       ] [ k3t_   ] [ netrunne1   ] [ rxr    ] [ WrKRobe] 
08:08 [ blindcoder] [ hopelessOwl] [ mistik1] [ netrunner   ] [ SMP    ] 
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08:08 < blindcoder> cchamilt:!
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08:15 < daja77> moin
08:16 < Aard> daja77: moin
08:16 < daja77> moin Aard :)
08:17 < daja77> 07:29  * decourl slaps Darl McBride with a fairly large trout
08:17 < daja77> 07:37 -!- decourl is now known as Tux
08:17 < daja77> 07:37  * Tux rapes McBride fiercely
08:17 < daja77> rofl
08:24 < blindcoder> ehm... okay
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08:27 < daja77> moin blindy
08:27 < blindcoder> moin moin daja77 
08:27 < daja77> woah me up early ^^
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08:30 < blindcoder> daja77: how'd you do THAT?
08:31 < daja77> i was forced to, ppl from stadtwerke are coming today
08:31 < blindcoder> I see
08:31  * blindcoder had the first silent night in three years today &&
08:31 < blindcoder> ^^
08:31 < daja77> hehe, computer off?
08:31 < blindcoder> no, moved intobasement thanks to newly installed WLAN :)
08:32 < daja77> hehe
08:32  * daja77 lives with his noisy machine ...
08:33 < blindcoder> Yeah, I also did so for the last years
08:34 < blindcoder> But it feels good having more space now in my room :)
08:34 < daja77> sure, but moving into basement is not a good idea here ...
08:36 < blindcoder> I'll get a WLAN Laptop these days so I'll use that as a Workstation
08:37 < blindcoder> hrm.... this is bad....
08:37 < blindcoder> dyndns will lock out routers of the type I have somewhen today because of a imlementation bug of its integrated dyndns client
08:38 < blindcoder> will have to upgrade the firmware today when I'm home
08:39 < daja77> :)
08:41 < blindcoder> somehow I fear doiing that remote :)
08:47 < daja77> ^^
08:56 < Aard> blindcoder: wimp :)
08:59 < daja77> woah some ppl are so damn stupid, it really hurts
08:59 < daja77> roflmao
09:00 < daja77> 08:55 < xuz> can any1 suggest a channel?
09:00 < daja77> 08:56 < decourl> anone but this
09:00 < daja77> 08:56 < wap> xuz: #piracy-newbie maybe lol
09:00 < daja77> 08:56 < xuz> doesnt work
09:00 < daja77> muhahahaha
09:02 < daja77> 08:59 < decourl> try the rm ("rip media") command...
09:03 < daja77> yeah now they all hate him >_<
09:05 < blindcoder> Aard: can't help it since the BIOS update failed remote I'm a bit worried about these things :)
09:05 < Aard> blindcoder: no risc no fun...
09:06 < blindcoder> Aard: your risk my fun :)
09:06 < daja77> hehe
09:20  * Aard riscs patching blindcoders box
09:21  * blindcoder disconnects [ Router resetting to default values ]
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13:17 < blindcoder> WOOHOOO! The new LVP homepage is almost done :)
13:57 < blindcoder> can someone have a look at this:
13:57 < blindcoder> http://lvp.crash-override.net/index.php
13:57 < blindcoder> I'm getting myself some hot chocolate
14:01 < jsaw> blindcoder: http://lvp.crash-override.net/documentation/xml.php
14:01 < jsaw> lvp_monitor.gif link broken
14:01 < jsaw> re, btw
14:01 < blindcoder> oops
14:02 < blindcoder> hi jsaw 
14:02 < jsaw> hi blindcoder 
14:02 < blindcoder> fixed
14:02 < jsaw> seems like all doc pages have that?
14:02 < blindcoder> yes
14:02 < blindcoder> it's created from a template
14:02 < blindcoder> (dynamically created)
14:02 < jsaw> I mean, had that...
14:03 < blindcoder> :)
14:03 < jsaw> btw, you may want to look at the XFree86 autoconfiguration present since 4.3.99.16?
14:04 < blindcoder> jsaw: yes I want to do that in a free minute (either between the 16th and 20C3 or during 20C3)
14:04 < blindcoder> I don't think I'll have time for anything before that
14:04  * mnemoc like new LVP page
14:05 < blindcoder> yeah, it finally has a decent design :) (stolen from rocklinux.net :/ )
14:05 < mnemoc> blindcoder: have you tried with a narrower border?
14:05 < blindcoder> hmm... no, but I could try that, just a moment
14:06 < mnemoc> why LVP in GRB instead of RGB? =)
14:07 < blindcoder> okay, shrunk the border by 33%
14:08 < blindcoder> looks better :)
14:08 < mnemoc> i'm one of those how uses 1px block border ;)
14:08 < mnemoc> i like that 2px
14:09 < blindcoder> hmm, nah I like it with 2px :)
14:09 < blindcoder> hmmm
14:09  * blindcoder getting stupid idea
14:09 < mnemoc> make it flow :)
14:09 < blindcoder> would be cool to make the LVP display in the design of the website :D
14:10 < mnemoc> i like current lvp.atari.com :-)
14:11 < mnemoc> but making it a little more 'modern' can be good
14:16 < blindcoder> narf, damn webwasher here >_<
14:17 < blindcoder> w3m: Can't load lvp.atari.com
14:17 < blindcoder> have to look at that when I'm home
14:17 < blindcoder> okay, counter-script also working again :)
14:17  * A-Tui is away: walking the dog
14:17 < blindcoder> though values are reset, but who cares
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14:23 < mnemoc> blindcoder: i was kidding you :)
14:23 < cytrinox> moin
14:23 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox 
14:23 < mnemoc> http://lvp.crash-override.net/screenshots.php are quite atari :)
14:24 < blindcoder> mnemoc: I didn't think that it had something to do with my LVP, thought it was something else... so you rather confused me than anything else :)
14:24 < mnemoc> :)
14:25 < blindcoder> yes, it is only some basic UI-Items because I'm a lazy bum when it comes to coding UIs :)
14:25 < blindcoder> The windows aren't even movable as of now :/
14:25 < blindcoder> (yes there is a window in V 0.2.2 but I haven't made a screenshot yet
14:26 < mnemoc> wow
14:26 < mnemoc> a window ;)
14:27 < blindcoder> yeah, it' _the_ advance in UI-Design
14:43 < rolla> re
14:44 < mnemoc> wb rolla 
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14:56 < jsaw> bbl
14:56 < rxr> re
14:56 < blindcoder> moin rxr
14:56 < mnemoc> re rxr
14:56 < rxr> moin blindcoder mnemoc and all
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15:02 < blindcoder> rxr: what is your timeframe for a 2.0 release? or what do you think will be ready for madtux, netrunner and me to build for 20C3ISO?
15:02 < blindcoder> (we want to start on Dec 20 to be ready in time for 20C3)
15:03 < blindcoder> start compiling
15:08 < rxr> blindcoder: 2.0.0-final I hope
15:08 < rxr> blindcoder: 2.0.0-rc4 at the end of this week
15:08 < mnemoc> rxr: will you apply the cron update?
15:08 < rxr> I'm now writing the ROCK Net STONE code myself ...
15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: yes
15:09 < blindcoder> rxr: sweet, that would be great to have that on the DVDs 
15:09 < rxr> mnemoc: could you resent the cron update - or point me to the date of the mail =
15:09 < mnemoc> w8
15:09 < rxr> s/=/?/ even ...
15:10 < rxr> only real bugs or other important things will be touchen after the -rc4 for the -final ...
15:10 < rxr> we really want a final some day ...
15:10 < mnemoc> 29.11
15:10 < mnemoc> i need cron update for runit patch
15:10 < blindcoder> rxr: indeed, that's also one of the reasons why I didn't want to submit LVP into ROCK yet
15:10 < mnemoc> the rest can wait
15:11 < rxr> well I apply the GNOME update (so it is done) and the kernel should be updated, too ...
15:11 < rxr> hm  cliffords client is not even here ... :-(
15:12 < blindcoder> th kernel should be updated because of that thing that happened to debian
15:12 < rxr> blindcoder: yes I know - I already wanted to do this on the weekend - but have not found time AND an internet connections at the same time :-(((
15:12 < blindcoder> rxr: don't strain yourself too much. stress makes ugly children :)
15:13 < rxr> yeah - but although I think I found a nice girl for this kind of real life this can wait some more years ....
15:14 < blindcoder> hehe, yes I think I know what you mean (although I'm lacking a distinct part of your statement)
15:15 < mnemoc> rxr: congrats :)
15:24  * A-Tui is away: comiendo
15:29 < daja77> re
15:29 < blindcoder> hi daja
15:30 < daja77> wb rxr
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15:39 < criss> who #rocklinux
15:39 < criss> l
15:39 < daja77> *gg*
15:40 < criss> oops
15:41 < netrunner> criss: me.
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15:42 < MadTux> moin
15:42 < netrunner> niom
15:42 < daja77> MadTux: !
15:42 < daja77> hi netrunner 
15:42 < MadTux> netrunner: steg eiw
15:43 < MadTux> hi daja77
15:43 < blindcoder> moin MadTux 
15:43 < MadTux> blindy!
15:43  * blindcoder going home now
15:43 < blindcoder> baba
15:44 < daja77> cu blindy
15:44 < MadTux> cyz blindy
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16:02 < rxr> cu later
16:05 < daja77> cu rxr
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16:58 < hopelessOwl> moin
16:59 < daja77> moin owl
16:59 < rolla> hallo
16:59 < daja77> hey rolla 
17:00 < blindcoder> hmm.. renes iso-server are quite slow today
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17:12 < daja77> hmm quick poll, does anybody mind if i create a seperate kernel package for rtai?
17:20 < blindcoder> in 2.0? yes
17:20 < blindcoder> 2.0.0 :(
17:20 < blindcoder> :)
17:25 < daja77> sigh i really have to branch, this sucks
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17:32 < hopelessOwl> hi daja77 , rolla , blindcoder 
17:33 < daja77> what a lag :))
17:33 < hopelessOwl> *cough* yeah :p
17:33 < hopelessOwl> <- did some "driver's licence-training" till now :p
17:34 < daja77> hehe, how many dead or wounded?
17:34  * daja77 runs
17:34 < hopelessOwl> *lol* none. just the theoretical part :p
17:34 < daja77> ic
17:35 < hopelessOwl> <magen> *knurr*
17:35 < MadTux> daja77: jezz no one will ever be safe walking in the streets soon
17:35 < hopelessOwl> <owl> still no breakfast *gnarf*
17:35 < hopelessOwl> MadTux: :p nah. 
17:35 < MadTux> hello owly
17:35 < hopelessOwl> hi Miguel. que tal?
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17:35 < daja77> hi ija :))
17:36 < hopelessOwl> hi ija 
17:36 < ija> hi daja77 
17:36 < hopelessOwl> .oO(whois ija ?)
17:36 < daja77> my sister ...
17:36 < hopelessOwl> ah - k :) 
17:36 < hopelessOwl> welcome at #rocklinux :p
17:36 < ija> thx
17:37 < mnemoc> hi ija, are you controlling your dirty brother?
17:37 < daja77> hi mnemoc :p
17:37 < mnemoc> hi dirtyBoy
17:37 < MadTux> hi mnemoc
17:38  * daja77 kicks mnemoc 
17:38 < mnemoc> hi MadTux 
17:38 < ija> is he dirty?
17:38 < MadTux> ija: hallo! Got segne dich
17:38 < MadTux> Gott*
17:38 < mnemoc> you don't wanna know what kind of thing does he said here
17:39 < hopelessOwl> *hrhr* mnemoc as he lives :p
17:39 < hopelessOwl> .oO(mephisto awake - brb)
17:41 < hopelessOwl> greetings frpm my hamster
17:42 < true> .oO( hopelessOwl is addicted to hamster ) ;p
17:42  * mnemoc want's to eat one today
17:42 < hopelessOwl> mnemoc: *kick*
17:42 < MadTux> hey true! how are you feeling?!
17:42 < mnemoc> why??!
17:43 < MadTux> mnemoc: eating a hamster or an owl?
17:43 < rxr> re
17:43 < mnemoc> roasted hamster
17:43 < mnemoc> never eat an owl.... yet
17:43 < mnemoc> wb rxr
17:43 < true> MadTux: feeling good thx u?
17:43 < MadTux> true: great thanks, and happy to see you recover :)
17:44 < true> mnemoc: this hamster is my dinner :)
17:44 < MadTux> hi rxr
17:44 < daja77> nah hamster is not enough for me
17:44 < mnemoc> daja77 only eat little babies
17:44 < daja77> yep, when is yours ready?
17:45 < mnemoc> not yet... 2 months
17:45 < daja77> have to find others first ^^
17:45 < daja77> .oO #rocklinux-bizarre
17:46 < hopelessOwl> .oO( true 's most horrible nightmare came true)
17:46 < true> :p
17:46 < daja77> true: eat owl :)
17:46 < ija> daja77: i hoped, you stopped eating babies :)
17:46 < true> daja77: hm kinda good idea ;) 
17:47 < daja77> ija: pssst
17:49 < rxr> hi daja77 and all
17:49 < rxr> hi MadTux 
17:51 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick* why eating me?
17:51 < daja77> hopelessOwl: better satisfaction than the hamster
17:52  * mnemoc sure about that
17:52 < daja77> rxr: sorry for asking again, can i get a typo3 typo fixing account?
17:52 < hopelessOwl> *hrhr*
17:54 < rxr> daja77: yes - although I need to investigate if I can create those ...
17:54 < daja77> ok
17:58 < rxr> hm - strange 
17:58 < rxr> I cannot log in as admin anymore - although it does not complain about a wrong passwd ...
17:58 < rxr> a wrong passwd results in an error - and rene just works ...
17:58 < rxr> strange
17:58 < daja77> O_o
17:59 < daja77> rxr: are you around this evening?
18:00 < rxr> maybe ...
18:01 < daja77> :))
18:02 < daja77> ok /me now goin home
18:02 < daja77> cu
18:03 < hopelessOwl> bye daja77 
18:04 < mnemoc> bye daja
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18:12 < rxr> cu daja77 
18:20 < blindcoder> this sucks
18:21 < blindcoder> 63% packet loss
18:21 < hopelessOwl> O_o
18:22 < hopelessOwl> .oO( blindcoder tries "inet via buschtrommel")
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18:23 < hopelessOwl> hi esdy!!!
18:23 < esden> humm ... not good ...
18:23 < esden> hi all
18:23 < esden> somehow I have been disconnected from freenode ...
18:23 < esden> very strage ...
18:24 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: something like that: Linksys WLAN Devices
18:25 < hopelessOwl> hehe, almost the same. btw, how 's yourb notebook?
18:25 < blindcoder> feels like being connected via a 9600 baud moden while doing heavy P2P and live internetstreams at the same time
18:25 < esden> blindcoder: then stop leaching ;)
18:25  * esden *hides*
18:26 < hopelessOwl> leeching even
18:26 < blindcoder> my notebook feels sad becauser I have no ROCK CD atm
18:26 < esden> thanks owlischnuckiputzi ;)
18:26 < blindcoder> note: it just took almost 40 seconds for the last sentence to arrive at the machine I am logged in to
18:26 < hopelessOwl> esden: *kick*
18:26 < esden> that is my owl! ;)
18:26 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: not good. 
18:26 < blindcoder> (I'm sitting next to the access point with the laptop9
18:26 < hopelessOwl> not your owl, esdy - true 's owl :p
18:26 < esden> she really loves me don't you think?
18:27 < esden> blindcoder: accesspoints are there so that you can sit far away from it ... if I understood it correctly
18:27 < hopelessOwl> not really :p
18:28 < MadTux> hello esden
18:28 < blindcoder> esden: it's the distance. three floors are okay for occasional websurfing
18:28 < esden> hopelessOwl: I was not asking you .. because I know you will admit it because you do not want to confess the truth ;)
18:28 < blindcoder> but not for interactive connections
18:28 < esden> blindcoder: ohh ... ok
18:28 < hopelessOwl> esden: nah :P
18:30 < blindcoder> cool, ssh connection just terminated
18:30 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: congrats
18:30 < esden> blindcoder: tztztz
18:30 < blindcoder> brb
18:33 < blindcoder> ok, /me relocating the server
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18:55 < esden> humm ... nice ...
18:55  * esden -> away
18:56 < esden> cu l8er
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19:08 < rxr> hi esden !
19:09 < daja77> re
19:10 < rxr> hi daja77 
19:10 < rxr> I leave now ....
19:10 < daja77> d'oh :)
19:10 < rxr> sorry. But i'll be back arround 22.00 or so I guess ...
19:10 < rxr> cu then ...
19:10 < daja77> ok cu
19:11 < blindcoder> MUCH better :)
19:12 < blindcoder> I even got the card working with the free ndiswrapper :)
19:14 < daja77> omg http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hps-08.12.03-000/
19:15 < daja77> wow home university made it to heise http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/wst-08.12.03-002/
19:30 < ija> :)
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19:52 < blindcoder> meep
19:52 < daja77> moep
19:53 < blindcoder> just wanted to check if there's still someone here :)
19:54 < daja77> busy idling
19:54 < blindcoder> ic ic
19:55 < blindcoder> I'm just waiting for my anime to be done downloading from one machine to another, then watch it ;)
19:55 < blindcoder> brb
19:58 < hopelessOwl> @&$$!$&#,!!!!!
19:59 < hopelessOwl> WHAT IS SO HEAVY??? WHY CAN'T THOSE' FSCKING ASSHOLES JUST DO WHAT A PERSON NEEDS????
20:01 < daja77> ?
20:02 < hopelessOwl> <- trying to access a password-protected .mdb-file by using ADO.crap -->  unhandled  exception... (since the chance of the  DB... with protected)... 
20:03 < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: difficult, not heavy
20:03 < hopelessOwl> difficult. thx.
20:04 < hopelessOwl> .oO(strawberry-wine in the corner of my bedroom... might i should move it to near my bed... hrmpf)
20:04  * blindcoder now watching anime
20:04 < blindcoder> baba
20:07 < hopelessOwl> bye blindy. enjoy anime
20:07 < hopelessOwl> btw, something interesting in the tv, today?
20:10 < daja77> not really
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20:10  * daja77 recorded chocalt yesterday ...
20:10 < hopelessOwl> hm. shit. .oO(it's not "rentabel" to be ill)
20:11 < hopelessOwl> chocalt?
20:11 < daja77> chocolat even
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20:11 < hopelessOwl> hmmmm. should i know it?
20:12 < ija> its a really good film
20:12 < daja77> anyway
20:14 < hopelessOwl> ok. hmmm. guess we should have some cds to watch here, like LOTR II and Clamp-X or so.
20:14 < ija> http://www.tvinfo.de/exe.php3?target=popup&sidnr=8377115&sel=chocolat&comefrom=list.inc&backQS=0x00x0chocolat0x010x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x01000000
20:16 < daja77> args
20:16 < hopelessOwl> ok. sounds really not bad. thx
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20:31 < hopelessOwl> hi ripclaw 
20:31 < ripclaw> hi owl. whats so hopeless
20:31 < hopelessOwl> hm. life. how are you?
20:32 < ripclaw> well, recovering. feeling better after wrecking my car 7 days ago
20:32 < ripclaw> huebi wrecked his on friday, btw
20:32 < hopelessOwl> O_o
20:32 < hopelessOwl> guys wtf are you doing?
20:33 < daja77> hi ripclaw 
20:33 < ripclaw> i lost grip and did triple salto against a tree, while huebi flipped his frontside down
20:33 < ripclaw> hi daja.
20:33 < ripclaw> both cars are scrap metal
20:33 < daja77> damn
20:34 < hopelessOwl> oh shit. not good
20:34 < ripclaw> i was just going on local ride and had wrong tires bad weather and accidental mishap
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20:34 < ripclaw> huebi had some guy cut off his path at 180 on highway near munich
20:35 < ripclaw> i think we both where extremely lucky bastards.
20:35 < ripclaw> the car landed on my laptop, which survived. hail apple hail !
20:35 < daja77> hehe aweseome
20:35 < hopelessOwl> ouch O_o
20:35 < ripclaw> my codriver was also unharmed, we got no trouble besides a wrecked oldtimer.
20:36 < ripclaw> your turn, what about life is hopeless ?
20:36 < daja77> *gg*
20:37 < ripclaw> be happy you didn`t have that experience lately.
20:37 < hopelessOwl> what happend to you? what kind of "unfallfolgen" for yo0u?
20:37 < ripclaw> girl trouble ?
20:37 < ripclaw> i was at hospital, as was cris, both had minor "schleudertrauma", which are gone now.
20:37 < ripclaw> huebi did need some more attention, but was ok as of today.
20:38 < hopelessOwl> nah. everything ok in "girlland" *looking at true and smiling* - but life is - hm. not well because of boss who's mobbing me and so
20:38 < hopelessOwl> well. then i would say more or less "mit einem auge davongekommen"
20:38 < ripclaw> tell that boss to go fly a kite and look for another job.
20:39 < ripclaw> owl, that was the third time i "dem teufel von der schipp gehippt"
20:39 < hopelessOwl> hmm. no chance yet. because i'm still in training :-(
20:39 < hopelessOwl> urgs. when the other times?
20:39 < daja77> yeah the list of your reborn dates grows ...
20:39 < ripclaw> 06.08.2000 - motorcycle crash
20:40 < hopelessOwl> -> "folge"?
20:40 < ripclaw> somewhere that following year - 30 minutes unconscious w./o reflexes during THW Uebung "Saukopftunnel-Brand".
20:41 < ripclaw> i smacked my honda shadow out of a "serpentine" at 70 kph with major vehicle wreckage and just a few bent muscles.
20:41 < ripclaw> (daumen ueberdehnt, schulter ausgekugelt)
20:41 < hopelessOwl> O_o
20:41 < ripclaw> i was at higher speeds and breaked for a pedestrian when my front wheel slipped on cow manure... Oh Sch... :-)
20:42 < ripclaw> coma co  dhiu ...
20:42 < daja77> ripclaw: let me say, it is good to see you here
20:42 < ripclaw> thnx
20:43 < ripclaw> devil may care - it seems i have nine lives. remainder six.
20:43 < ripclaw> will not test that out...
20:44 < ripclaw> dunno what to say. happy monday everyone. and i`ll not ride a car to work that week.
20:44 < daja77> will you be at 20c3?
20:44 < ripclaw> btw. wait. i skipped the fact that i had a damn near miss on 13.10.2000.
20:44 < ripclaw> i hope ill be there with huebi
20:45 < ripclaw> that was a friday 13th that almost cost chris his life, when some idiot hit us
20:45 < ripclaw> frontal on a straight road, and i managed to put my car between some green and trees.
20:45 < ripclaw> remainder 5
20:45  * ripclaw is scare
20:46 < daja77> cris?
20:47 < ripclaw> cris = christiane (good friend o mine), chris = christoph, the guy that was with me at linuxtag 2002
20:47 < ripclaw> i have to distinguish 7 svens and 6 chris` ... yuck
20:48 < daja77> ah k.
20:48 < ripclaw> :-)
20:48 < ripclaw> owl - just try to think of it that way - whatever problem it is, its over someday. its nothing you can`t get rid off.
20:49 < hopelessOwl> hmm. yeah.
20:49 < ripclaw> while death comes sudden and is hard to get away with.
20:49  * daja77 np aerosmith - nine lives for ripclaw 
20:50 < ripclaw> maybe ask around for some other company to take over your ausbildung and then tell your boss the offer - tell him clearly what pissess you off.
20:50 < ripclaw> thnks daja.
20:51  * ripclaw playing johnny lang - before you hit the ground...
20:51 < ripclaw> *sarc*
20:51 < hopelessOwl> hm. yeah. i will do... or i will try to "cancel my contract" but finish the rest of my ausbildung (about 1/2 - 3/4 year) alone or so. - if it's possible. (asked the IHK and waiting for answer)
20:52 < ripclaw> owl - ask another company to take you. that is also possible, and will give you another opportunity.
20:52 < ripclaw> when you have stuff secured try a last saving grace, ask bossman for a 4 eyes only,
20:52 < hopelessOwl> jup
20:53 < ripclaw> tell him your problems, what pisses you off etc. if he doesnt react, hand him the kuendigung
20:53 < ripclaw> and tell him he has 24hrs where you will revoke.
20:53 < ripclaw> that sometimes gives style points :-)
20:53 < ripclaw> but before you do that - get a ZWISCHENZEUGNIS for your first two years - tell him you need it for
20:54 < hopelessOwl> hmm. problem: it's not directly my boss, but my ausbilderin. and she's the only one who pisses me off... my other co-workers are quite ok, but this old un-opened bitch... *grmls*
20:54 < ripclaw> your parents or something like foerderung
20:54 < hopelessOwl> ok. yeah. thx
20:54 < ripclaw> owl - then go to your boss and tell him you got a problem.
20:54 < ripclaw> if you cant solve a problem directly try the layers above to fix it.
20:55 < ripclaw> i once went to the central germany boss of a company and called him on vacation to get trouble solved.
20:55 < hopelessOwl> hmm. but what will he do? my ausbilderin is the leader of the client team (which has 3 (incl me) members) --> she has "viel zu sagen" and /me nothing :-(
20:55 < ripclaw> from then on he always had a watchful eye out for me, and recognized me as a person who had the guts to fight for a goal.
20:56 < ripclaw> owl. you can still change team, ask for different tasks, or what your boss would do in your position -
20:56 < hopelessOwl> hm. is an argument
20:56 < ripclaw> if you ask people with authority for advice you give them a chance to show people skills.
20:57 < ripclaw> you give the boss a good feeling by asking him, and tell him of the problem. tell him something like
20:57 < ripclaw> eigentlich will ich ihnen ja nicht ihre kostbare zeit in anspruch nehmen, aber ich habe da ein problem,
20:57 < hopelessOwl> hmmm. but: i guess i spoke with some co-workers abiozt the problem sometimes ago - and nothing changed. i even spoke with my "beloved friend called ausbilderin"... but nothing helped
20:58 < ripclaw> weswegen ich auch schon darueber nachgedacht habe meine ausbildung zu schmeissen. bitte lasten sie XY das nicht an,
20:58 < daja77> O_o
20:58 < ripclaw> aber sie koennten mir ja einen tipp geben, wie ich mit ihr besser rumkomme oder mich versetzen
20:59 < ripclaw> if you already followed the hackordnung, its time to get hack help from above
20:59 < hopelessOwl> hehe. yeah. into the server÷-team please. the teamleader is cool there, and might we will work with linux in near future *vbeg*
20:59 < ripclaw> maybe ask what her problem with you is - what can i do to better in your eyes...
21:00 < ripclaw> see, thats a option you didnt consider and that will save you .75 years short of finishing your ausbildung.
21:00 < ripclaw> try looking for a book by matthias schranner - "verhandeln im grenzbereich".
21:00 < ripclaw> if you are in a weak postion - which you feel like you are - then a book by a "geisel-unterhaendler"
21:01 < ripclaw> might surely give you some tactical advice.
21:01 < hopelessOwl> hehe. thx. will have a look :)))
21:01 < ripclaw> and remember - if you cant solve a problem on even grounds, call the airforce to strike from above ... or call bossman
21:02 < ripclaw> a bad zeugniss is the last thing you might want now.
21:02 < hopelessOwl> jup. definitiv. 
21:03  * ripclaw now playing doro - salvaje
21:04 < ripclaw> no-sue linux - im definitely p***ing my pants on that yoke :-) illiad rules !
21:05 < daja77> hehehe
21:05 < ripclaw> novell suse... hihihi
21:05  * ripclaw BFG
21:05 < daja77> url?
21:06 < ripclaw> www.userfriendly.org - one of the backissuess.
21:06 < ripclaw> brb phone
21:07 < ripclaw> back
21:08 < daja77> uf for sure, but which id
21:09 < ripclaw> less than a week old
21:09 < ripclaw> already closed it
21:09  * daja77 liked sunday's uf
21:09 < daja77> erh sunday two weeks ago
21:30 < hopelessOwl> uf?
21:31 < MadTux> rippy!
21:31  * MadTux is back
21:37 < rolla> :)
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21:40 < daja77> hopelessOwl: userfriendly
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21:43 < hopelessOwl> ah so
21:43 < hopelessOwl> hi dev0 
21:44 < dev0> huhu
21:48 < dev0> Gibt es keine desktop isos f├╝r rc2 oder bin ich nur blind?
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21:49 < daja77> thought there were some ...
21:49 < A-Tui> hi
21:49 < daja77> hi A-Tui 
21:49 < A-Tui> buenas noches daja77
21:50 < daja77> you are goin to bed?
21:50 < A-Tui> mmm ni why?
21:50 < A-Tui> no
21:50 < daja77> just though so :p
21:51 < A-Tui> i just have come yet 
21:52 < dev0> baah...
21:52 < daja77> dev0: ??
21:52 < dev0> sorry
21:52 < dev0> forgot english only...
21:52 < dev0> <- tired
21:53 < dev0> so... are there any rc2 desktop isos?
21:54 < MadTux> dev0: yeah
21:54 < dev0> Where?
21:54 < MadTux> dev0: moment
21:54 < MadTux> http://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/incoming/
21:54 < MadTux> ^^ there
21:55 < daja77> hehe
21:55 < MadTux> for ix86 and ppc
21:55 < dev0> didn't look in incoming
21:55 < MadTux> dev0: hehe, you are not the first no worries :)
21:56 < daja77> MadTux is our guide
21:56 < dev0> hehe
21:56 < MadTux> daja77: who?!
21:56 < daja77> you :p
21:56 < MadTux> ph34r!
21:56 < MadTux> :)
21:56 < A-Tui> wi hola mike
21:56 < MadTux> dev0: make sure you get the 3 isos.
21:57 < MadTux> A-Tui: hola Aitor :)
21:57 < dev0> sure
21:57  * MadTux sad cause he couldn't make it to talk to rippy.
21:57 < dev0> I wanted to try rc1 already...
21:57 < dev0> but for some reason didn't get to
21:57 < MadTux> dev0: nah go for rc2 :)
21:57 < daja77> both have their lacks ...
21:57 < A-Tui> the other day i made my first rock package
21:57 < MadTux> daja77: elaborate
21:58 < daja77> rc1 i forgot, just remember install wasn't that good, rc2 ifconfig missing is sucking most
21:58 < MadTux> ifconfig missing!?!
21:59 < daja77> yep failed to build :O
21:59 < dev0> ifocnfig missing?
21:59 < MadTux> daja77: grrr...
22:00 < daja77> dunno if it is missing in dektop isos too
22:00  * MadTux downloading minimal from beta6 ... there is nothing like my own work :)
22:00 < daja77> MadTux: hey come on beta6 generic are nice
22:01 < MadTux> daja77: ok yeah i'll give some credit :)
22:01 < MadTux> daja77: still i will use beta6 to create new isos :)
22:01 < MadTux> minimal beta6 :)
22:02  * daja77 still uses bet6 generic on his main machine
22:02 < MadTux> daja77: hehe
22:02 < dev0> so... as a starting point to the wonderful world of RockLinux rc2 is usable non the less?
22:02 < daja77> well kde works, for gnome rxr, posted some work arounds
22:03 < daja77> static ip setup works with stone nonetheless
22:03 < dev0> I'll try it
22:03 < daja77> you can fetch net-tools.gem from rock hp to get ifconfig back
22:04 < dev0> I have an os-less laptop lying around here
22:04 < MadTux> A-Tui: how are things?
22:05 < A-Tui> MadTux: nice, i'm now trying to run a simpletech linear ram flash on linux
22:06 < A-Tui> with the 2.6 kernel
22:06 < A-Tui> the build env is prettier than old ones 
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22:07 < MadTux> hehe
22:08 < A-Tui> and i added worker program to my rock sources
22:11 < MadTux> looks like you are keeping ur self usefull and busy :)
22:11  * MadTux is fixing some pc and making some wires to get his 6 node cluster ready :)
22:11 < daja77> cool
22:12 < MadTux> yups hehe :)
22:12 < A-Tui> 6 node cluster :)
22:13 < MadTux> well i can't have all this stuff laying around the floor all the time
22:14 < A-Tui> mmm i wan make a cluster with mainboards into a box with oil
22:14 < daja77> do you put mpi stuff on it?
22:14 < MadTux> i guess i will make an alien package for mnemoc in january containing some stuff for him to play
22:14 < MadTux> pvm
22:15 < daja77> damn, i could send you some mpi programs, i ran at university cluster ...
22:15 < MadTux> well still deciding the software packages, first need all the hardware ready and the connections :)
22:15 < daja77> some are broken though
22:15 < MadTux> daja77: sow hat are you waiting for
22:15 < MadTux> ?
22:15 < MadTux> send the over :)
22:15 < MadTux> them*
22:15 < daja77> will not work with pvm
22:16 < daja77> maybe i could fix the hypercube simulation sometime in the future
22:16 < MadTux> I'm open to options, as i said before i'm still deciding what software packages etc to use
22:16 < MadTux> let me see that mpi programs you have :)
22:17 < daja77> hmm checking if i still have them :O
22:17 < MadTux> grrr...
22:17 < daja77> *gg*
22:17 < MadTux> don't make fake ilussions to me :(
22:17 < A-Tui> :)
22:19 < daja77> MadTux: ah i see ija should have them, we made them together and worked from her home
22:19 < MadTux> but she just went to bed :(
22:20 < daja77> i know
22:20 < daja77> sorry
22:20 < MadTux> grrr...
22:20 < daja77> ask her tomorrow
22:20 < MadTux> you are cruel :(
22:20 < daja77> mom trying sth
22:20 < MadTux> okis
22:20 < daja77> damn have no permission to access that
22:21 < MadTux> grrr
22:21 < daja77> i am not cruel, just forgot that she has them
22:21 < daja77> we wrote them a year ago ...
22:22 < MadTux> yeah but now i will have to wait till she wakes up and you are here
22:22 < MadTux> and if she is like you she will sleep like 60 hours!
22:22 < MadTux> :(((
22:22 < daja77> pah
22:22 < MadTux> :P
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22:46 < A-Tui> hi
22:46 < MadTux> welcome back Aitor
22:46 < MadTux> so did 2.6 work?
22:46 < A-Tui> MadTux, very strange
22:47 < MadTux> what?
22:47 < A-Tui> i think is all acelerated
22:47 < A-Tui> and when i run a xterm
22:47 < A-Tui> it kill
22:47 < nookie> heya MadTux :)
22:47 < nookie> Heya A-Tui :)
22:48 < MadTux> A-Tui: mm..
22:48 < MadTux> hi n00kie
22:48 < A-Tui> hola nookie :)
22:48 < nookie> :)
22:48 < A-Tui> MadTux, something very strange
22:48 < MadTux> A-Tui: yeah i can tell
22:49 < A-Tui> :)
23:02 < rxr> re
23:03 < daja77> :)
23:03 < MadTux> wb rxr
23:07 < rxr> hi daja77 
23:07 < daja77> hi rxr, how are you?
23:11 < cytrinox> gn8
23:21  * daja77 goin to bed
23:21 < daja77> cu
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23:31  * MadTux off to prepare cluster
23:31 < MadTux> cu later folks
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